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Ki-Ki-Ki-Ma-Ma-Ma!! Are We Ready For A Bayified FRIDAY THE 13th Remake?? Well, It's Got A Script And A Director!!

could it be? am I... by dale_cooper	Nov 14th, 2007 09:44:58 AM
first?
sorry. by dale_cooper	Nov 14th, 2007 09:45:45 AM
Anyway, Jason in a hockey mask? So this is a remake of - at the outside - Friday pt 2, right? I don't see how this remotely relates to the original movie.
Who's this supposed to excite? by kujofbrooklyn	Nov 14th, 2007 09:48:28 AM
The only thing I'm interested in is who they'll get to play that girl in the daisy dukes. She was smoking hot.
meh its a download by bongo123	Nov 14th, 2007 09:48:52 AM
.
Time for me to jump on the recent by matalo	Nov 14th, 2007 09:49:28 AM
bandwagon is officially saying Hollywood is out of original ideas. I fear my love for the motion picture is almost at an end. I simply cannot take this shite any longer.
THIRD!! by aceillk	Nov 14th, 2007 09:50:02 AM
Crap. If only I had been signed in. As for this film: It's at the point where I just lie back and try to enjoy it. This is slightly less heinous than the 'Poltertgeist" remake, but still kinda unecesarry.
dale_cooper by matalo	Nov 14th, 2007 09:50:10 AM
No offense, but it is part 3 where he puts on the mask.
Pathfinder wasn't awful... by Dr_Zoidberg	Nov 14th, 2007 09:50:24 AM
it definitely wasn't good, but it wasn't awful either. A very mediocre filmmaker is Nispel, much like Paul WS Anderson I suppose. I saw The Hitcher remake that Bay produced, that was just so bad it was funny, none of it made a lick of sense. Bay should stick to directing, I love most of his films, pure popcorn cheese. Anyone who says otherwise is a cunt... just kidding, but seriously, you are!
And if they're gonna remake the first one, by kujofbrooklyn	Nov 14th, 2007 09:52:18 AM
but the killer's Jason, AND he has a hockey mask, it seems more like a mash up of all the F. the 13th movies into one. If so I hope they keep the hitchhiking kid with his cool sign and his banana. And the black kid on the manhattan roof!
Pathfinder made me HATE slow motion by DirkD13"	Nov 14th, 2007 09:54:26 AM
Even more so than 300. I absolutely detested every single minute of Pathfinder, it should have kicked so much ass, and wound up being one of the most boringfilms I have ever seen. Also, wasn't Nispel the guy originally set to direct End Of Days, before he wrote a list of silly demands that were made public and then ridiculed by his peers?
the texas remake was garbage by reckni	Nov 14th, 2007 09:55:27 AM
They just keep on beating dead horses, and people still eat it up. Seems as though remakes are the greatest new trend in cinema. Very sad indeed. Let's see something new and creative.
Corey Feldman confronts Jason... by kujofbrooklyn	Nov 14th, 2007 09:56:15 AM
then dazzles him with his freshly shaved scrotum before hacking him into reality show oblivion!
DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY! by THE KNIGHT	Nov 14th, 2007 09:57:12 AM
Someone would have said it eventually!
The 2003 version was actually decent. by El Scorcho	Nov 14th, 2007 09:59:10 AM
The 2006 version was fucking awful. This could be fun.
No more f'n remakes!!! by Using_BrandX	Nov 14th, 2007 10:05:07 AM
Damn it all to hell Hollywood...
How about one section for remakes? by CuervoJones	Nov 14th, 2007 10:06:12 AM
Like Coaxial news.
There just no way this will be a memorable film. by kirttrik	Nov 14th, 2007 10:06:39 AM
Not a chance. Not a...chance.
Future AIC review..."I didn't 'hate' it but." by kirttrik	Nov 14th, 2007 10:08:40 AM
or "The film has it's problems for sure but".
Xiphos - amen to that by spud mcspud	Nov 14th, 2007 10:10:42 AM
I was utterly hypnotised by her melons in a basket for every moment of that movie. For weeks I defended that movie - "It's not so bad" - to everyone I knew, until I realised it was just the rack of Biel that I loved so much about it. Cue another slick, supersaturated colour remake, full of non-acting sexy-as-holy-hell cheerleader model types and boys from the "chiselled OC" school of non-charisma. At least it'll be fun seeing those fuckers get sliced up. Well, it would be if the film were any good. Which it won't be.
R Lee Ermey should have more respect for himself... by spud mcspud	Nov 14th, 2007 10:12:44 AM
...After FULL METAL JACKET, doing THE FRIGHTENERS and the TCM remake just ruined everything great he did in that Kubrick masterpiece. Now when I watch FMJ, I wonder where Michael J Fox is in the background.
I 2nd CuervoJones by CarmillaVonDoom	Nov 14th, 2007 10:13:06 AM
There are certainly enough of them! Also, include a FAQ with the agreed upon 'good' remakes and WORSE remakes. I think F13 reboot will be great, just wish the Quentin rumour from a few years ago was true. Having the hockey mask, etc. makes this Ultimate Friday the 13th. Not sure why that moniker wasn't used for Halloween. That is what it was.
Spud mcspud by CarmillaVonDoom	Nov 14th, 2007 10:14:28 AM
R Lee Ermey gotta eat
New Bay story by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 10:15:25 AM
Jason will get a new back story: A long time ago at the run down Camp Crystal Lake, Jason was playing ice hocky one winter for the Mighty Ducks. Unfortunatly, the coucelers were having an orgy and Jason broke through the ice and drowned, oh and he has a skin deformity brought on by nuclear testing. Oh and it was on a Friday. A Friday the 13th. Then when lightning struck the lake, he was regenerated and at first he was a peaceful, yet retarded, fellow. Until one day he tripped and landed near a machete and he decided and actually says “It’s time to ICE these fools.” You see Jason is now a streetwise hood who in a twist of fate was sent to the camp to curb his gangsta ways by roughing it in the wild. Now he’s back and he wants revenge because someone took ACTUAL footage of him in the annuls of camp history will now forever be know as, the Friday the 13th massacres.
The first two are the only good flicks... by Lou Stools	Nov 14th, 2007 10:20:15 AM
...in that entire series. Part three was dogshit. I loved Jason's look in part two...the pillow case over his head was far more scary than the stupid hockey mask. That and he was a real human in part two...not a huge, unstoppable behemoth. He looked awesome at the end too: http://tinyurl.com/267tqj
God did by Series7	Nov 14th, 2007 10:22:47 AM
They film Pathfinder with mud on the lens?? That was one of the most horrible looking movies ever. Why do a movie set entirely in nature, just to make it look like they filmed the whole thing in a mud hut. It isn't that hard to make an enjoyable Viking/Warrior movie. Fuck The Rock's was oscar worthy compared to Pathfinder. See I guess I was hoping that the reviews were just being lame like always and that this would just be a movie for the boys, just dumb brute action. Like a Viking Transporter. But no this movie was painful to site through. It could have been awesome.
This time around by redshirt	Nov 14th, 2007 10:22:54 AM
Jason is gonna kill all the guys driving the SUV's with Bush stickers on it, and the girl that drives the Prius with the "US out of Iraq" sticker will be the only one who survives. Jason as eco-liberal warrior, you know that's what you all want to see! Seriously, Time to reimagine "Jaws", Close Encounters" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" as well...
Freddy vs. Jason wasn't bad by tompiltoff	Nov 14th, 2007 10:23:31 AM
All things considered.
In Remake Related News... by CatVutt	Nov 14th, 2007 10:25:27 AM
Disney has announced that The Rock and Martin Short will take over the roles filled by Denver Pyle and Slim Pickens in their remake of 'Hawmps' slated for a Fall 2009 release, tentatively titled 'Humps'. Disney is enlisting Pixar's aid in designing a fleet of 'fully expressive camels' that will be more capable of interacting with their human counterparts in the ways the original filmmakers intended. "It's great to see Dad's vision being realized to its fullest potential," said Brandon Camp, son of the legendary Joe Camp, director of the original classic. "The camels were always meant to talk." No word on if Benji will make an appearance.
matalo by dale_cooper	Nov 14th, 2007 10:28:54 AM
Yes, I realize that. I should have been more clear. What I meant was that pt 2 is the first Friday movie that even involved Jason as the killer. You could theoretically remake that movie and just throw in the hockey mask somehow. But you can't conceive of a remake of pt 1 that involves Jason and the mask in any way - unless it's a redo of the end sequence or something.
New Scene by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 10:29:05 AM
Jason is shot in “docu-drama” style as a 10 foot hulking monster, with flames on his hockey mask, as he walk towards the first bunk house full of victims. Inside it’s full of boys and girls playing truth or dare. Just as the popular girl is about to kiss the nerdy dork because of her “dare” Jason kicks down the door. Cue Disturbed “Down with the Sickness” and quick cuts, as Jason uses his new Tai Chi movies while doing barrel rolls through the air. As the music stops, Jason stands solid with an American flag waving behind him. All the campers are in the same spot they were when he came in. Then a second later their bodies fall apart because of the machete attack.
This is a sequel, not a remake. by I Dunno	Nov 14th, 2007 10:29:25 AM
Most of the sequels just ignore how he died in the previous film and they're practically reboots themselves so how is this going to be different than a regular sequel?
I'm THERE! I'm EXCITED! by silentbobafett2	Nov 14th, 2007 10:30:15 AM
Rather have a sequel! BUT FUCK IT! I'M SO THERE!
Marcus Nispel makes me think of Nipsey Russell... by tonagan	Nov 14th, 2007 10:31:14 AM
Just because their names have similar letters, I guess.
The Friday the 13th films are generally terrible. by Barry Egan	Nov 14th, 2007 10:35:46 AM
It shouldn't take much for this to be an improvement.
favorite kill by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 10:38:15 AM
When the dude was walking on his hands on the porch and Jason cuts him in half
I'M WITH JASON VOORHEES' MOTHER ON THIS ONE by Pound Sand	Nov 14th, 2007 10:45:53 AM
Why remake a movie that's been remade upwards of 9 times already? (...waits for TB'er to chime in with precise number of F13 films....) And this is not counting the F13 knockoffs.
JimCurry by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 10:45:58 AM
Dude, it was such a travesty. What a piece of shit. Nothing can top the 1st or the 2nd, and that was such a "we don't understand this franchise so we will just try to do what we think horror is"
Favorite kill.... by Darth Macchio	Nov 14th, 2007 10:50:18 AM
...has to be the 3d eye popping out directly at the camera when Jason squeezes that old dude's head in part 3. Either that or the machete chop to the face for the dude in the wheelchair in part...err..2..3? Or was it four?......five maybe?
Show Jason in shake cam only! by JackPumpkinhead	Nov 14th, 2007 10:53:34 AM
That will be revolutionary. Don't forget to explore his troubled childhood! And there MUST be a scene showing how little Jason performs forbidden voodoo rituals (or gets infected by an alien parasite, whatever) that explain his later immortality. Otherwise the teendiot slime "target audience" will keep asking: "So, he, like, can't be killed or something? Like, how come? Is he, like, you know, like, a zombie or something? I don't get it! Duh! Stoopid mooviee! Like, let's go watch that totally hot new Tom Welling show like now!"
but but but but by strangernparadis	Nov 14th, 2007 10:55:18 AM
Jason was only in like the last minute of Friday the 13th. does he keep the hockey mask in the lake with him??
There is a cool shot in the TCM remake. by Barry Egan	Nov 14th, 2007 10:57:46 AM
But it is totally out of place in the film. It's the one after the girl shoots herself and the camera is on the horrified reactions of everybody in the van. The camera pulls back, through the hole in her head and way out of the van. It's a cool shot that totally takes you out of the film.
I Dunno, I beg to differ... by TheBladehelm	Nov 14th, 2007 10:58:12 AM
Actually, up to and including part 8 they didn't "ignore how he died in previous films" as crazy and ridiculous the situations were, each film did flow into the other with at least some sense of continuity. Jason Goes To Hell, Jason X, and FvJ did, however, all ignore their predecessors.
Nope. Still hate it. by Lost Jarv	Nov 14th, 2007 11:07:05 AM
and whoever reckons FvJ wasn't bad- PULL YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS> It was shit. and committed the mortal sin of not using the chick from Ginger Snaps properly. Although Kelly Rowland did get hit in the head with a machete, so maybe it isn't so bad...
This already has the stench of a BOMB by RoarsLoudly	Nov 14th, 2007 11:07:58 AM
Written all over it. Jason in the first, what are these writers thing about, or in actuality not thinking about?!?!
Sounds like its in good hands to me by kilik777	Nov 14th, 2007 11:10:52 AM
Chainsaw remake was pretty damn good. Freddy vs Jason was fun as hell. I was hesitant but now im looking forward to it. Hey Kujofbrooklyn the fat kid with a banana was a chick not a dude. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
This won't work because.. by scudd	Nov 14th, 2007 11:15:25 AM
...audiences today equate the Friday the 13th movies with Jason. If you make a remake of the first film, where the mother is actually the antagonist, you won't have an audience. So sorry!
At least you got the sounds right this time by ShiftyEyedDog2	Nov 14th, 2007 11:24:18 AM
last time you ran a F13 headline, it was Ki-ki-ki, Ma-ma-ma.
Oh stop whinning you babies! by Agent Blue	Nov 14th, 2007 11:25:29 AM
Who are you kidding?! Friday the 13th has no redeeming value beyond Jason playing human baseball with a machette, and it never has! All the movies have been utterly terrible and that is what makes them fun. And anyone who claims otherwise is a moron! If anything, I think Marcus Nispel is the perfect director for this flick. Anyone who wants Tarrantino to direct a 13th is dreaming. What we are going to get is a brutal killer in a hockey mask. The movie is going to be well shot and be 100 times better than Jason X. If Nispel can make Leatherface Jason, and Zombie can make Myers Jason, then let Nispel make Jason Jason. He will no doubt master the technique by now.
DYMB by gwangi77	Nov 14th, 2007 11:25:55 AM
Okay, so does this mean that Jason's hockey mask will have flames on it? Oh and make sure to bring back Kevin Bacon.
Wheelchair Dude was robbed by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2007 11:35:49 AM
Okay, the rule of horror movies is that if you take a shower, skinny dip, or have sex you die. Only the ugliest, and by that I mean average looking, girl survives, and maybe a friend or two. But man, here's some guy that's paralyzed, about to score with a hot chick (and she initiated it). She goes back to her cabin, puts on special panties, give a squirt of perfume down there (it's amazing how many details I remember), and while he's waitng for her, bam, machete to the face. I mean if he's gotta die that's fine, but he just got robbed. Let the guy have a little happiness first. Same movie and one couple got speared together while they were doing it. At least they died happy. Oh, and Part 2 was filmed ten minutes from my house. It's nice to watch it on occasion, and see what scenery is fake, and what isn't.
Best part in "Takes Manhattan" by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:40:58 AM
and the only good part was when Jason punched that dudes head off
Uhhhhhhh by Ozzie_H	Nov 14th, 2007 11:42:57 AM
The mom is still the killer right?
Ozzie by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:43:49 AM
only in the first one
I agree Kloipy by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2007 11:44:50 AM
The dude punches Jason how many times, Jason falls back, dude is too tired, and then Rope a Dope, he's gone. Hysterical. Also, no one ever explained how Crystal Lake opens up into Long Island Sound. Okay, before anyone says it yes we suspend disbelief that Jason can be folded, spinned, mutilated, and come back yet we care about the direction of water. Well I care anyway.
Best Kill of the Whole Series by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2007 11:46:20 AM
Was definitely taking the girl in the sleeping bag, and swinging it against the tree. Sure, no blood or nudity, but man talk about originality. I could be wrong, but I believe the story is that Kane Hodder ad-libbed that after getting frustrated with how long the scene was taking, and the rest is history.
Jason is like a pube you can't get off the soap by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:46:21 AM
He just sticks around.
just throw a welding mask on some guy by LarryTheCableGuy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:47:30 AM
and call the movie 'veterens day' or something. i'd rather have a rip-off than a remake. make up your own shit. same goes with poltergeist, there's a million ghost stories out there, there's a few thousand serial killer stories out there. how about a h.h.holmes movie? i guess it all has to do with the franchise. michael bay is a fag.
Speaking of ghost stories, by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2007 11:49:51 AM
Ghost Story was great. John Houseman, Fred Astaire, the Borg Queen showing some skin; it had it all. Oh crap, I just have Hollywood another idea.
LOL the sleeping bag by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:51:47 AM
I forgot about that! That was genius. What pisses me off is you know this remake is going to try to make it totally serious with none of the camp that made those movies great. It'll be Jason staring at his mask while "More Than Words" blares over the soundtrack
agent blue by LarryTheCableGuy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:52:27 AM
friday the 13th part one is very well written and clever, i think youre the moron.
VFW-Violent Fucking Wildman by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 11:53:33 AM
This Veterans day, the murder is free, the membership isn't
Does this mean Jason will wear a bright orange jumpsuit? by Kirbymanly	Nov 14th, 2007 11:59:01 AM
Just like Nispel?
Liquid nitrogen face a close second by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2007 11:59:31 AM
For best kill If your recall in Jason X, I think they tried to re-do the sleeping bag kill when he was on the holodeck or whatever it was. I forgot if he swung it on the tree or ground, etc., but it just did not have the impact of the original.
Do you guys seriously enjoy the originals? by Spandau Belly	Nov 14th, 2007 12:04:19 PM
I love Jason as a movie monster and all, but his movies are terrible. At least Jason X had some solid laughs in the Bride of Chucky type way, but the real Jason movies were all boring. It's not just because they're dated. Compared to Halloween or Alien or Jaws or any other suspense feature of their time the Jason movies are still terrible. Oh well, I guess Harry's severed head will get another cameo and you guys will get something to rant about in between Rob Zombie features.
LarryTheCableGuy by Agent Blue	Nov 14th, 2007 12:07:54 PM
You know what else is well written? The back of my cereal box. And the part on the bottom of my shoes will all the writing. Oh! And the way they fit all the letters onto each button of the phone. Friday the 13th part 1 is a bad movie. People like it because it pushed the envelope and people like big knives. I've never heard the words "well written" used to describe Friday the 13th before.
Spandau Belly by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:07:59 PM
I love them. I don't take anything in them seriously. I love real horror, but Jason has always been a guilty pleasure for me. It's just fun to sit back with your friends and laugh, it's not scary or anything but just a good time
lol, Urbones by Thick McRunFast	Nov 14th, 2007 12:15:29 PM
Urban.
Why is it that we're complaining when they're remaking a bad mov by Reel American Hero	Nov 14th, 2007 12:19:26 PM
I don't get it, Jason is an iconic horror character, but the movies are by no means perfect, let's leave them untouched as timeless classics. The movies are utter trash, entertaining trash, but trash nonetheless. A few Octobers back a local theater was showing the first three movies, and most of the enjoyment I got out of them was cracking jokes at the screen. This can only be improved on. Stop complaining. Could they be...I dunno, thinking of original ideas? Yeah, but it's Hollywood. I've come to expect this from them by now. At least they're redoing a crap movie, and not something actually good this time. Stop complaining.
MOTHERFUCKING MOTHERFUCK. by Vern	Nov 14th, 2007 12:26:06 PM
I actually re-watched all of them last month, and I've been reading that awesome "Crystal Lake Memories" book, and I was beginning to feel safe, like this thing wasn't gonna happen. I don't mind the FREDDY VS. JASON guys writing it, and the guy who they used to have as a director at least seemed like a nice guy even if I hated his CHAIN SAW remaquel. But there are a few people who could suck all the potential fun and thrills out of a goofy FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2 BUT IT'S CALLED PART 1 remake and one of those people is the fuckin guy who got fired from END OF DAYS. Come on man. It's like Michael Bay does this shit on purpose just to bum everybody out. What the fuck is wrong with that dude? To recap: no these movies aren't gospel, yes many of the sequels suck, no none of them are masterpieces like CHAIN SAW. But at least parts 1-4 and JASON X are fun and have their own unique tone and it's a shame that if someone has to restart or continue the series that it has to be people with a track record of making gloomy, joyless, inept, moronic remakes of other people's movies. Okay, the moronic part is acceptable for this series but they at least gotta be enjoyable to watch and there's no fuckin way that's gonna happen with this combination of director and producer. I think you could teach a bird to type before you could teach these two to make a good horror movie. I'm sure the photography will be real pretty though, we could take screengrabs and send postcards to our mamas.
p.s. by Vern	Nov 14th, 2007 12:27:56 PM
and I would love to be wrong about this. I'll see it and hope that I'm wrong. If the movie defies the laws of physics and does not suck then I will be very happy, and then I will open up a typing school for birds.
Kujofbrooklyn- The hitchhiking kid... by Frijole	Nov 14th, 2007 12:28:27 PM
...is actually a girl, not a dude. Yep.
Is any movie playing next summer that ISN'T a remake? by Live.	Nov 14th, 2007 12:28:54 PM
A few remakes every year is to be expected, but now the ONLY thing that is getting made are an endless stream of remakes. This is insane.
THANK YOU VERN by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:30:19 PM
Vern, I was waiting for you to chime in on this piece of shit news. I think Bay seriously does love to make us bummed out. TCM remake was such a piece of shit. And they will try to make this ultra-real and take all the fun out of the series.
School of Cock:Bird School by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:31:10 PM
Get your minds out of the gutters people
Michael Bay's "The Exocist" by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:33:09 PM
Regan is in a car chase and she drives with her head backwards.
How can anyone say the TCM remake was good? by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 12:33:17 PM
It sucked in the worst possible way a movie could suck, and it started this whole horror remake fad. I'll curse it to the day I die.
People who like the TCM remake also like by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:35:31 PM
when people jingle their keys in front of their eyes
Kloipy, and the car turns into a giant robot by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 14th, 2007 12:36:39 PM
'nuff said.
Vern by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:38:03 PM
dude, I can't wait to buy one of those "Don't be an Ellis" shirts! Awesome stuff man
Bay doesn't suck the fun out of flicks... by Agent Blue	Nov 14th, 2007 12:38:11 PM
If anything, people beat Bay down to a dead thing twitching on the side of the road everytime he tried to inject fun elements into his flicks (Pearl Harbor excluded). Armageddon is a space slasher flick where the asteroid is one machette away from slashing up the world. Bay knows fun, but when he uses it people bash him for shoddy story telling and every other Bay complaint you can find on wikipedia. Bad Boys? Bad Boys 2? The Rock? Armageddon? These are the Friday the 13th of action movies, but people won't shut the hell up about them!
Is he still gonna wear the old-style hockey mask... by Kid Z	Nov 14th, 2007 12:39:23 PM
... or update to the new style in use since at least back in the 90s, if not earlier. And what about Mrs. Voorhees, who was the actual killer from the first movie?
Grammaton by AdrianVeidt	Nov 14th, 2007 12:40:00 PM
And the car's head is, naturally, spinning and vomiting oil, which will generate many laughs like a robot peeing on somebody, R Kelly style
Agent Blue by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:41:06 PM
jingle jingle jingle
and the cross she uses by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:42:07 PM
shoots sparks which explode overtop of the new military helicopter, the annihaltor
favorite kill... by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 12:45:31 PM
the machete to the face of the guy in the wheel chair (part 2) or the impaling of the junky rapist by his own heroine needle (part 8)
Freddy Vs. Jason sucked... by Kid Z	Nov 14th, 2007 12:45:44 PM
...bad concept to begin with.... Freddy Krueger's really just a lethal bad dream, Jason is a mutant retard whatsis, but real... how can anything fight a friggin' dream. Now Jason Vs. Michael Myers... THAT would have been some matchup! It would've been interesting to see them go at each other with their different killing styles... Jason's just-crash-through-the-door-an d-start-hacking versus Myers' fade-in-from-shadow-behind-vic tim-and-slash.
FRIDAY THE 13TH Bay style by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 12:50:58 PM
Jason on a jet ski pursuing his victims who are fleeing in a speed boat while his mother closes in from above in a chopper. Then they all collide in one big explosion.
Actually fuck that, favorite kill.... by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 12:52:35 PM
Jason punching off the head of the boxing jock from the roof of a building (part 8)
Tarantino direction Friday the 13th... by Kid Z	Nov 14th, 2007 12:53:19 PM
... now THAT is a million dollar idea. I'd love to see him sit down to a plate of waffles at a retro diner after a long night of murdering. You know, just shootin' the shit about old TV shows, kung fu movies, and bad 1970's music with his best buddy and partner in crime, The Gimp.
Speaking of death in a sleeping bag.... by Nice Marmot	Nov 14th, 2007 12:53:56 PM
...I still think the most necessary remake ever is Prophecy. Hard-R w/ tons of gore.
....gulp by Automaton Overlord	Nov 14th, 2007 12:54:28 PM
blech
Michael Bay's "Leprechaun" by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 12:58:17 PM
His Gold, Our Clover
Bring on the by Pound Sand	Nov 14th, 2007 01:01:25 PM

Chest Bumping Fat Kids! by Pound Sand	Nov 14th, 2007 01:01:49 PM

FREDDY VS. JASON was awful. by LoneGun	Nov 14th, 2007 01:10:04 PM
News of its writers penning a remake of FRIDAY THE 13TH kills any anticipation I could have of this movie being exciting. This is already sounding like a cookie-cutter horror remake. Why not hire someone more interesting to write this remake, maybe even someone with no horror background? Heck, get one of those writers of LOST to do it. That show is scary as hell sometimes.
Kevin Bacon... by PROF IKAMONO	Nov 14th, 2007 01:14:46 PM
...somebody up above said bring back Kevin Bacon... ...also bring back Christian Glover, and make sure he uses the word "dead-fuck"... ... and most importantly have Jason kill Cory Feldman! Jason must be played by someone over 7' tall so he can be taller than Michael Myers again.
THIS IS A DISEASE!!! by FILMFUNK	Nov 14th, 2007 01:14:54 PM
Burn Hollywood BURN!
missing scene of double impalement from F13 2... by PROF IKAMONO	Nov 14th, 2007 01:17:05 PM
...Nispel should recreate this scene intact so we finally get to see it...
at least it will be violent by zooch	Nov 14th, 2007 01:19:59 PM
Didn't like the TCM remake. But I kinda liked their Leatherface, I thought he was pretty scary. Hope their Jason is scary and they BETTER not try to make this film funny.
Does it matter? by Mezzanine	Nov 14th, 2007 01:30:44 PM
I don't really think that it matters who is directing this movie or who is producing it. If anything, Michael Bay might be the best dude to do this flaming piece of shit movie. I really don't understand why people are all up in arms about this. The Friday the 13th movies have never been good. sure, they were mindlessly entertaining, but worthy of this outrage? I think not. People need to save their anger for shit that matters, like Brandon Routh's hair and Optimus Prime having lips and flames. Sometimes I think people who post in these talkbacks are just looking for something to bitch about. Oh wait, I know thats the case.
Kid Z Tarantino actually almost directed a Halloween by zooch	Nov 14th, 2007 01:42:11 PM
He wanted to send Michael Myers into space. True Story. I guess Jason X beat them to it. Vern JASON X WAS TERRIBLE!
F13 REMAKE = NISPELS ON BATSUIT!!! by PROF IKAMONO	Nov 14th, 2007 01:49:09 PM
... er, nipples ...
zooch by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 01:52:14 PM
who hasn't been to space! They should make like a godzilla "destroy all monsters" movie with all these horror characters in space staring Leonardo DiCaprio from Critters 3
I CAN'T WAIT!!! by turketron	Nov 14th, 2007 02:17:31 PM
I can't wait to see Jason emerge from the lake at sunset, and we get the Bay-shot swirling camera as he walks up out of the water in slow motion, with awesome bay-i-fied music playing in the background. The chase scenes will be unbelievable... people do all kinds of ridiculous running throught he streets, getting in a car, driving for miles across stretches of highway while ramping off shit and causing immense amounts of property damage. Meanwhile, we cut to Jason doing his slow ass walk. Finally, after miles of driving at breakneck speeds, the person will inevitably crash, get out of their wrecked car, and walk right into Jason's machete.
This is so fucking stupid. by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 02:18:25 PM
We don't need a goddamn remake when the sequels are still successful. Jason X may have bombed, but Freddy Vs. Jason, which is a superior film, is the highest grossing entry in the series! Jason is still strong, this is fucking pointless. I think Nispel could pull this off if given a decent script. Just fill it to the brim with tits and gore, have a hockey mask on the poster, and you'll make millions. IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY.
call it... JASON HARBOR by turketron	Nov 14th, 2007 02:18:52 PM
hell fucking YES!
By the way by Mezzanine	Nov 14th, 2007 02:20:38 PM
If Jason chest bumps a fat kid in this movie, I will eat my words and declare it the best film of all time.
Gimme a FREDDY VS. JASON sequal by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 02:23:22 PM
goddamn it, make that instead
Best....Idea....Ever! by just pillow talk	Nov 14th, 2007 02:35:16 PM
Maybe Jason will piss on his victims' leg before killing them?
this should have a Jason car chase by zooch	Nov 14th, 2007 02:36:26 PM
it is a Michael Bay production. Jason could seen be walking after a moving car then moments later appear right behind it. Then he impales the driver.
Jason will be wearing a hockey mask??..... by riddleman1674	Nov 14th, 2007 02:39:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't the hockey mask introduced in part 3 and wasnt it Jason's mom who did the killing in the first one?...oh wait...haha...silly me...this is a "remimagining". Michael Bay is such a goddamned genius! Hell, while he's on his streak of producing gawdawful bullshit remakes of scary classics like Texas Chainsaw Massacre, my vote for his next project after he botches Friday up, is Gigli!!...that was one seriously fucking TERRIFYING movie shiver
Someone should hire Uwe Boll to direct by skimn	Nov 14th, 2007 02:45:31 PM
a remake of The Rock and give Michael Bay the what-for.
And although a remake of The Prophecy by skimn	Nov 14th, 2007 02:50:09 PM
makes sense, since it was awful and took itself much too seriously, chiefly because the environmental themes are as relevant as ever, nobody would be able to take the movie seriously because of the resemblance to ManBearPig. Run on sentences are my specialty..!
riddleman1674 by Nice Marmot	Nov 14th, 2007 02:50:21 PM
Can I correct you if 100 other people have already mentioned this? At least you aren't wrong, though.
I know these movies aren't Casablanca by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 02:54:16 PM
But there is a way to make a Jason flick and a way to not do it. So far, this is how you SHOULDN'T do it.
This could work if: by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 03:02:18 PM
1. Don't INTENTIONALLY make it campy / silly. This is why Snakes on a Plane didn't work. We wanted to laugh AT the movie, not WITH it. Try your hardest, give us your best shot. But we'll still probably laugh. 2. Fill it to the brim with tits and gore. Insanely beautiful women. No pretty boys. Let them fuck regular looking guys, like they did in the original movies. Seeing a girl bone Kevin Bacon makes me feel better about myself. 3. NO FUCKING PUSSY ASS BACK STORY. Gimme a movie about kids at a camp fucking each other, then dying. Adam Marcus said when making Jason Goes to Hell that the reason he ditched the 'kids in the woods' storyline was to be fresh, so that by the end of the movie, the audience would be ready to go back to the lake. Well, since then, we've been to space and Elm street. We're ready to go back to the lake, like back in the day. 4. False scares / jump scares are not necessary. They are annoying, and soften the horror when it comes, because we're numb to the scares by then. 5. Enough fucking shaky cam. I want to see the tits. I want to see the gore. Take your shaky cam and shove it up your ass. 6. Don't call it Friday the 13th. Just put Jason's name in the title and you'll get the same amount of people, and without pissing off half your audience. 7. Don't make this movie.
Oh yeah... by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 03:05:59 PM
Did I mention I'm sick of every horror remake indulging in large amounts of back story? Please don't try to show us the reasons behind Jason's madness. I can't stress this enough. Boobs and gore. That's all you need in these movies. Boobs and gore.
Nice Marmot by riddleman1674	Nov 14th, 2007 03:08:33 PM
Yeah I know, just thought I'd be number 101 on the bitchfest list. Maybe these assholes will get the picture after reading the talkbacks?....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ..wishful thinking
Well.... by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 03:08:57 PM
Maybe some drugs and alcohol, too. I would say throw a great soundtrack in there, but I won't because to Platinum Dunes, soundtrack to horror movie means more Mushroomhead music videos. And that is fucking dumb. I love how the music on the TCM remake's soundtrack is all shitty goth "metal", even though the fucking movie is set in the 70's! And the only genuine 70's song we got in the whole movie? Fucking Sweet Home Alabama, the shittiest, most overplayed pile of cunt snot to come out of the entire decade. I don't know if you guys can tell, but I'm a little pissed off about this remake.
Boobs by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 03:10:24 PM
and gore. Come on, Bay. You know you like them too.
F*** It... by Kid Z	Nov 14th, 2007 03:11:10 PM
... Just make a ManBearPig movie. You all know I'm right!
what would be cool is if by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 03:13:00 PM
they got one of those huge inflatable things that you put in the lake, have one kid jump on it to bounce another off and have Jason pop out of the water and machete that bitch in half
Jason Goes to Daddy Day Camp by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 03:14:37 PM
That's one way to get me into the theater
SebastianHalf....an answer for you by riddleman1674	Nov 14th, 2007 03:18:35 PM
You want tits and gore and Jason and nothing more? How about "Jason Does Debbie In Dallas"? A career booster for Bay, huh? And to add to this masterpiece, they'll hire the original Debbie from the first movie. Hell, she's old enough to be the Crypt Keeper anyways, haha
yikes. by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran	Nov 14th, 2007 03:21:32 PM
this couldnt be worse than ghost rider, could it? i mean, come on!
the only boobs in this movie are by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 03:23:23 PM
the ones directing and producing it
This could work if: by zooch	Nov 14th, 2007 03:42:51 PM
1. Make it scary! Scary is all about creating a scary atmosphere. It's dark and in the middle of the woods, how hard could it be? Do not throw a filter on the camera or shoot at day. That's not scary. I would also like to see some killer P.O.V. shots like in the first two or three films, those were scary. 2. Take time with the kills. More body count does not = better, give appropriate set up and pay off for the kills. 3. Like Sebastian said, Don't INTENTIONALLY make it campy / silly. This does not mean it can't be fun or have a dark sense of humor to it. 4. Jason is not superhuman. He's just a guy out in woods who kills people. 5. Go old school. No use having a complicated plot. A quick flashback to Jason getting picked on or drowning would do. But mostly stay in present day crystal lake with teenagers in a log cabin getting knocked off one at a time. 6. NO TORTURE!!!
This could work if: (now with page breaks) by zooch	Nov 14th, 2007 03:44:11 PM
1. Make it scary! Scary is all about creating a scary atmosphere. It's dark and in the middle of the woods, how hard could it be? Do not throw a filter on the camera or shoot at day. That's not scary. I would also like to see some killer P.O.V. shots like in the first two or three films, those were scary. 2. Take time with the kills. More body count does not = better, give appropriate set up and pay off for the kills. 3. Like Sebastian said, Don't INTENTIONALLY make it campy / silly. This does not mean it can't be fun or have a dark sense of humor to it. 4. Jason is not superhuman. He's just a guy out in woods who kills people. 5. Go old school. No use having a complicated plot. A quick flashback to Jason getting picked on or drowning would do. But mostly stay in present day crystal lake with teenagers in a log cabin getting knocked off one at a time. 6. NO TORTURE!!!
SoylentMean by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 03:52:25 PM
actually it would be kind of great to see someone dancing like in those idiotic IPOD commercial and Jason just stands behind them until they realize and BAM machete to the face or he rips their ears off
oh and the song playing has to be either by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 03:55:55 PM
Wake me up before you go or I'm walking on sunshine
riddleman1674 by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 04:02:38 PM
You missed my point entirley. If you're familiar with the classic 80's slasher flicks, and I'm sure you are, they consist only of what I'm asking for. For example, Halloween is a classy, well made picture. Meanwhile, Friday the 13th is about.... you guessed it: boobs and gore. It was meant to be exploitive from the beginning, I only request that Bay stay true to this. Zooch posted a list of requests I wholeheartedly agree with, and his is less crude, so check that one out. I'm down with intelligent horror any day, but when watching a Jason flick there are only two things required. At this point, I doubt I need to tell you what they are.
Zooch, this could work if: by riddleman1674	Nov 14th, 2007 04:02:55 PM
These studio execs were running on brains functioning at full capacity. Unfortunately for your great ideas and the poor fucked in the ass fanbase all around the world, this is not likely on all counts.
FREDDY VS. JASON kicked ass fuck the haters by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 04:04:22 PM
anyone who doesn't realize that FREDDY VS. JASON could have been 1,000 times worse is an asshole
How much do you want to bet by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 04:05:08 PM
that we will get to see Jason having dinner with his parents, his dad gets called off to war and mom starts drinking and forgets to bring his floaties to camp the next day
ClockWorker by Kloipy	Nov 14th, 2007 04:06:45 PM
I liked it a lot except for the STUPID Jay and Silent Bob ripoff character
Kind of hard to fuck up this "classic"... by crackerfarmboy	Nov 14th, 2007 04:13:15 PM
The originals weren't any good anyways. They really can only get better.
SebastianHaff by riddleman1674	Nov 14th, 2007 04:17:22 PM
No I got ya dead on actually. I agree 100%, but following the trend of bullshit remake-reimaginings like Halloween & TCM, what makes you think this will be any different? What was the point of showing Michael Myers' childhoood? The guy is fucking psychopath, I don't need to know how he got there. I would have thought Zombie wouldn't have got this. Letdown. What was the point of placing Leatherface with a new fucking family that I could give a shit about? The original built up such strong characters besides Leatherface, like the Cook, The Hitchhiker, and Grandpa. But no fuckall that, let's focus on Leatherface alone. Then just call the damn movie Leatherface. Don't deface 30 years of iconic horror because you have loads of money and can. You're right, that's exactly what Friday was about essentially. Gore, sex, and and a psycho killer. But knowing Bay, this is exactly what we wont get. Get ready for Friday the 13th: The Wonder Years.
IT'S NOT A REMAKE OF #1 / FVSJ WAS AWESOME, FUCK THE CRITICS by TheDohDoh	Nov 14th, 2007 04:18:22 PM
first off, this is a "remake" of part 2, but better yet, it's just a reboot. Jason's mom will not be the main character/villain, it will be Jason. C'mon, Bay knows what's signature to F13. Also, WHAT THE FUCK. STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT FREDDY VERSUS JASON. I'D LOVE TO SEE A BETTER SCRIPT/FILM COME OUT OF THAT RIDICULOUSLY CHEESY PREMISE. THAT FILM WAS GODDAMN AWESOME FOR WHAT IT WAS. SHUT UP. AND IT MADE $80 MILLION, WHERE'S THE SEQUEL WITH ASH OR MYERS ALREADY????
ClockWorker by TheNorthlander	Nov 14th, 2007 04:18:56 PM
F vs J sucked. It wasn't funny enough to be a comedy and it certainly wasn't scary enough to be a horror movie. There were no thrills or laughs anywhere. That, is a weak film. Btw, the mere fact that it could have been a lot worse is not enough to make it "kick ass".
riddleman1674 by SebastianHaff	Nov 14th, 2007 04:58:05 PM
Well said. I guess we're on the same page after all. Sorry for gettin' defensive. Cheers!
Jason vs. Henry Gibson by idonotseekabanning	Nov 14th, 2007 05:09:51 PM
Ol' Henny G. fuck a Mama's Boy up!
Crystal Lake freezes over . . . by idonotseekabanning	Nov 14th, 2007 05:26:40 PM
councilors mistake him for "that new ringer power forward from Camp Knotty Pine" and invite him to play. They give him a stick. He walks on the ice instead of skating. He knocks the puck clean through the goalie's chest. He high sticks "the tough kid" in half. The "slow-witted kid" tries to pull Jason's coveralls over his head. Jason responds by grabbing the boy's back fat, ripping it over the boy's head and throwing the boy's steaming form into the penalty box. A super-imposed Don Rickles appears in the lower left hand corner of the screen, smiles and waves. Jason tears down the fourth wall, reaches out, grabs Rickles by the mandible and rips it down to his gullet, zipper-like.
When Freddy met Jason by Jaws Wayne	Nov 14th, 2007 05:29:58 PM
Anybody who thought FvJ "kicked ass" will no doubt be anxiously awaiting this new Jason film. These are exactly the horror fans Mr. Bay knows will run to the cinema for his new remake. I love many horror films, but if you think FvJ is a masterpiece, you're opinion on Horrorfilms will fall on deaf ears with moviefans that happen to have just a little bit of taste. And that's a fact.
Zooch by Vern	Nov 14th, 2007 05:33:03 PM
You got that confused. The "Halloween in space" idea was something John Carpenter said he wanted to do for a sequel many years ago. I've never been clear if he was serious or just making fun of sequels (I'm guessing the second one). Tarantino's connection to HALLOWEEN was that he was one of the people trying to come up with a script for part 6 at one point, before he was established. Much like a young BAD TASTE era Peter Jackson pitched an ELM STREET sequel (part 5 I think? maybe earlier). As for JASON X, well I must admit that when I rewatched it recently it was not as fun as when I saw it with an audience on a big screen. But it's still a funny movie with lots of good laughs and violence. I definitely like it more than anything else after part 4 (although they all have their moments).
Stick it to the Manfredini by Vern	Nov 14th, 2007 05:34:19 PM
I hope they realize that if it's gonna be FRIDAY THE 13TH they gotta get Harry Manfredini doing the score, or somebody that can class it up like he did. On the early ones though, not the later ones with the god damn keyboards.
Let me rephrase.. by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 05:48:24 PM
I was getting pushed out the door and had to get my previous post off in a hurry. As flawed as it might be, conceptually, F v J worked. The plot and direction were satisfying. I'm not saying the characters weren't cheap and they they didn't modernize the hell out of it and that I wasn't bored to tears during every second that Freddy and/or Jason weren't on screen. But I'm saying that I wasn't that dissappointed, which I easily could have been. It wasn't everything I could have hoped for, but when I compare it to the other shitty franchise movies that have been released in the past few years I know we caught somewhat of a break with F v J. And JimCurry you have clearly proved yourself to be a belligerent fool. "Shitty movies make lots of money all the time" That is not a valid arguement my friend.
Michael Bay - don't be a faggot by teddytanner	Nov 14th, 2007 05:52:28 PM
You heard me. I think Friday the 13th sucks for the most part. They're stupid, schlocky fun, yeah. Now you've hired Marcus Dumbbell to dumb it down and make it mean and LOUD...awesome! Wouldn't it be just as easy to just, you know, create a new loud, ugly, mean horror property than take the fun out of a ridiculous, shitty, albeit fun one? Vern is a man of wisdom and already articulated much of this better than I have, but you deserve all the shaming you get in this talkback. You're going to do it to The Birds too, eh? Mark it mean, ugly and LOUD! You guys are great at making aesthetically wretched piles of dreck, if that's the aim, ignore me and keep it up. Otherwise, get your head out of your dirty assholes.
Jaws Wayne by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 05:59:33 PM
I just want to clarify that by no means do I consider F v J to be a masterpiece. And "kicked ass" is way to brash of a description. I take back that previous post, my enthusiasm for F v J does not even come close to that level.
Jason needs to kill Tommy Jarvis by zooch	Nov 14th, 2007 06:05:50 PM
Michael Myers eventually killed his Laurie Strode. Freddy eventually killed Nancy. Jason can't ever get the best of his survivor character?
I am however a die hard horror fan.. by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 06:07:31 PM
who's taste in the genre and all genre's for that matter is right on point. I don't even think this remake will ever exist nor do I condone it.
and sorry for the multiple posts but.. by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 06:11:13 PM
but if you dont think that F v J could have been worse your not an asshole. Compared to real horror films F v J, well isn't a horror film
As long as this has a few creative kills... by Barry Egan	Nov 14th, 2007 06:11:37 PM
won't it pretty much be on par with all the others? They all were pretty much just random kills strung together with no sense of atmosphere or suspense whatever.
By know by Jaws Wayne	Nov 14th, 2007 06:15:51 PM

How will the squeeze in explosions and busy character designs? by krack	Nov 14th, 2007 06:20:42 PM
Jason will probably be dressed in full a member of the old WWF tag-team Demolition.
have to do it.... I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MRS. VORHEES by Turd Furgeson	Nov 14th, 2007 06:22:17 PM
And she said "What the fuck?" I wouldn't piss that sweet old lady off if I were you Mikey Bay..... This is such an amazingly bad idea I am almost speachless....
Again, wasn't Them (aka Ils) sort of a remake of Friday 1? by TheNorthlander	Nov 14th, 2007 06:29:45 PM
I can't be the only one who felt a connection.
By now by Jaws Wayne	Nov 14th, 2007 06:33:17 PM
they know exactly what's gonna sell movie tickets and this new Friday the 13th film will do just that. With this remake, there won't be a lot of suprises at all. It will be another loud, violent and ultra hollow affair. It's also gonna have sequels. Plenty of horror fans are easy to please, and so are plenty of teenagers, that's just the way it is. So when can we see Alexandre Aja's MIRRORS ?
All FRIDAY sequels are remakes of Part I. Thank God for the babe by thegreatwhatzit	Nov 14th, 2007 06:35:51 PM
I only enjoyed FRIDAY Part 6 (some funny stuff, e.g. the pre-credit 007 homage). Favorite hotty is Kirsten Baker (remember her skinny-dipping scene in FRIDAY, Part 2?). Baker made a few other movies (GAS PUMP GIRLS, TEEN LUST, etc.) and then did a vanishing act,
Jason Voorhees has chosen the premaquel format, and here's why . by idonotseekabanning	Nov 14th, 2007 06:35:57 PM
More cock, less jock.
Wow.... by R L S	Nov 14th, 2007 06:35:59 PM
I've never seen a whole F13 film. Over the years I've probably seen about half to three-quarters of all of them, but never all the way through. I mainly watched them when I was younger for the boobs. Oh, and the gore, too.
Remakes of Part 2, not Part 1 by voxmortis	Nov 14th, 2007 06:41:33 PM
As all real Friday fans know, Jason's Mom was the killer in Part 1 - so all sequels were remakes of Part 2! Bay's got himself another sequel on his hands - but trying to sell it as a reimagining... sad.
Damn You by That 70s Venom	Nov 14th, 2007 06:47:53 PM
Michael Bay
Fan films are better than this dross by voxmortis	Nov 14th, 2007 06:51:25 PM
I'm tempted to make fan film sequel, with $10, out of work actors, rotten contents of a butcher's garbage bin, and of course stealing Manfredini's score. Put it up as a torrent and pull the fuckin rug from under Bay's feet.
Is Jason going to... by That 70s Venom	Nov 14th, 2007 06:54:33 PM
... have a red flame design on his machete this time kinda like Optimus Prime's armor? DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY!
I'm not a remake fan, but... by TattooedBillionaire	Nov 14th, 2007 07:06:21 PM
It's not like this series was a crowning achievement of modern cinema. I enjoy the series as much as the next guy, but there's a huge difference in quality between the original TCM and the original F13.
Hey jaws wayne, I hope your not including me in your little grou by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 07:14:46 PM
of horror fans that are easy to please. Don't question my fanhood.
Oh shit, by ClockWorker	Nov 14th, 2007 07:24:42 PM
my fault I thought you were trying to tell me that it made money because it was shitty. But yeah I mean it wasn't as bad as AVP or anything. I never said it was a "good" movie, but at least it didn't piss me off at how bad it was. Plus I retracted my statement saying fuck the haters of this movie, hate on it all you want I'm not disagreeing with you
GOTTA HAVE MANFREDINI / ESPECIALLY F13 3 IN 3-D by TheDohDoh	Nov 14th, 2007 07:32:41 PM
No matter what, they have to have the Manfredini tunage to make this movie kick a bit of ass. His score on Friday the 13th III 3-D was fucking awesome and underrated. That theme gets me so pumped up. Not that the new music should go disco or electro, stick to the original. As for FVSJ, I don't understand what people who disliked it actually wanted from the flick. It was smart while not too ironic, and it delivered plenty of knowledgable homage to Freddy's evolution of a killer - going to the boiler room, to homage to Dream Warriors, to imagery from the original. Same with Jason. It was fun as hell, and c'mon, you really can't berate it for not being a film filled with dread and terror - it's a Royal Rumble for chrissakes. They could have gone about having the film filled with a plot that was Freddy-less and Jason-less for 2/3rds of the running time, a la Jason Goes to Hell. Instead, the kills were great, the characters were appropriately stupid, hot and horny and Freddy and Jason were roided up and had great fight scenes. And the ending was hilarious. I remember the audience going totally apeshit for that. I'm not siked on Bay tinkering with Jason (who would be??), but this hasn't been news for 4 years now. Bay's studio had the rights. As for the director, I think he'll deliver the goods. It will look obnoxiously pretty and metallic, but fuck it. At least Jason's back. The dude doesn't really have standards anyhow. And as long as they don't make him 9 feet tall, they can't fuck it up too much. At least it's not PG13 and will have plenty of tits and blood. Nuff said.
This Will Only Work IF.... by DigitalBeachWar	Nov 14th, 2007 07:33:32 PM
THEY DON'T MAKE IT!
AND IT CAN'T BE WORSE THAN HATCHET by TheDohDoh	Nov 14th, 2007 07:35:54 PM
Hatchet is the most low budget, overrated piece of shit I have ever seen. The jokes are ridiculously corny and even the tits are the same two pairs of tits over and over. HATCHET SUCKED. How did it even get a theatrical release? That movie is like something made for the Fear.net channel. Truly terrible and wasted cameos all around.
Freddy vs. Jason by Bramton1	Nov 14th, 2007 07:38:47 PM
Was it a masterpiece? No. I'd put Nightmare 1, 3 and 7 ahead of it (I can't compare it to the other Friday movies, because it was a different formula. It's a Freddy movie guest-starring Jason.) But it's fun, and it's better than the script with the Nightmare cult, or the Law and Order script. Speaking of scripts, has anyone ever seen the Peter Jackson Nightmare 6 script?
The Correct Sounds for Jason ARE "KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA" by drwynninblack	Nov 14th, 2007 07:52:33 PM
ShiftyEyedDog2, you wrote; "last time you ran a F13 headline, it was Ki-ki-ki, Ma-ma-ma." Well, the correct sounds for the "killer" motif in the "Friday" films ARE "KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA"...not, "CH-CH-CH-HA-HA-HA", as so many people believe them to be. Trust me, I'm a friend of Harry Manfredini and we've discussed the motif and score several times. Here's a quote from series creator Sean S. Cunningham. The quote appears in the "CRYSTAL LAKE MEMORIES" book, page 39; "Harry is an equipment junkie. He had something called an 'echo reverb machine'...the two words that he used were 'Kill' and 'mother'. 'Ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma.' That is where it started." In conversations with me, Harry has said the two words were actually "Kill" and "Mama". End of story.
Northlander by Vern	Nov 14th, 2007 07:53:58 PM
Where did you get that? There's no summer camp in Ils, there's no counselors, no backstory, different characters, less characters, different things happen, different structure, different killers... Only parallels I can think of is that both have a killer who is unseen until the end of the movie.
What did you want from FvJ by I Dunno	Nov 14th, 2007 07:54:11 PM
that you didn't get? I mean it was no Critters 2 but it was competent. Jason showed up, Freddy showed up, they fought in each others' worlds, had a long battle and still managed to kill some teenagers. If Pinhead would have been in the last scene like the rumor said, it would have been great.
THE BURNING = CRAZY AS FUCK by TheDohDoh	Nov 14th, 2007 08:07:50 PM
I watched the Burning a few weeks ago, and man, this is one bloody fucking movie. Definitely entertaining as well. Tom Savini let the gore fly and the Weinsteins let it. The killer is a little too S&M for my tastes, but still a great flick that doesn't cop out.
Pfft you complain now, by jimmay	Nov 14th, 2007 08:26:57 PM
But when this is actually released, just as happens with every Bay cinematic bowel movement's release, the fan boy love will come in floods. (sigh) I remember when movie dorks liked good movies, and it was the general-give me entertainment or give me death-public who supported schlockbusters. No longer.
FREDDY VS. JASON VS. ASH Comics in stores... by AnarchyWorldsEnd	Nov 14th, 2007 08:30:03 PM
Anyboby here buying? Maybe we can still get the movie at some point....
I dunno by Jaws Wayne	Nov 14th, 2007 08:40:25 PM
Competent ? Is that a recommendation for any film, let alone a horror film ? Not that I think FvJ was competent by the way, Jesus. But people that grew up as kids when those Freddy films came out and because of that have fond memories of those films, I can see how that works. The thing is, if you were a few years (or a lot) older when those Kruger films started to come out, you were probably raised on films like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Omen, Halloween, The Shining, The Excorcist, The Evil Dead, Dawn of the Dead, An American Werewolf in London, The Thing etc. and chances are you would never mistake any movie featuring Jason Voorhees or Freddy fuckin' Kruger for a good horror film. Some of those Jason films are dumb but enjoyable fun, but oh boy, do I hate that Kruger character, I actually think the horror movie world would have been in a better state had these films not been made, I'm serious about that.
The Final Chapter is still the best by crackerfarmboy	Nov 14th, 2007 08:50:00 PM
Really decent as far as slahsers go; particulary for this series. It's got some scares, suspense, Manfredi, Jason runs, Jason looks his best, and the ending is insane. Oh Corey Feldman and dancing Crispin Glover too!
Nightmare Not Good? by drwynninblack	Nov 14th, 2007 08:52:18 PM
OK. I can see people disliking the sequels to the original "Nightmare...". But, come on, the original "A Nightmare on Elm Street" is a great horror film. It's not exactly "Citizen Kane"...but, it's got great writing, directing, cinematography, etc. The plot and concept is unique aqnd ingenious, and Freddy was actually scary in the original. As the sequels went on, the character of Krueger became more and more diluted. By the time "Nightmare 4" rolled around, he was actually considered the "hero" of the series. Director Renny Harlin even says in several interviews that he envisioned Krueger as the "James Bond" of the horror genre. So, I think a lot of the blame falls on his shoulders for the character's demise as an actual iconic and scary horror villain. But, in the first "Nightmare", Krueger was dark, mysterious, morbid, perverse, and scary as hell.
drwynninblack - and whoever changed the headline: by ShiftyEyedDog2	Nov 14th, 2007 09:06:35 PM
I'v eheard that before, and maybe those ARE the words he sampled and messed with to make the sounds, but the fact is that those slivers of the words and whatever he did to them, ended up making the sounds CH-ch-ch, Ha-ha-ha. Everyone in the world agrees that this is what it SOUNDS like, therefore that is how it should be written, regardless of he ORIGIN of the sounds.
Re: Ils by TheNorthlander	Nov 14th, 2007 09:06:42 PM
Right, the gimmick on both is you don't see or know who the killer is until the end (or in the case of Ils, until 20 minutes into the movie when the punk kids are revealed, but it's still the gimmick). How many movies like that are there?
"Ch-Ch-Ch" was right by CherryValance	Nov 14th, 2007 09:16:03 PM
who changed it to "Ki-Ki-Ki"? I always heard "Ch-Ch-Ch" and I have dog ears.
JimCurry by TheNorthlander	Nov 14th, 2007 09:59:28 PM
Have you seen the movie? It's obvious from the start of act 2 when you see "them" in full view.
Ch-ch-ch- by idonotseekabanning	Nov 14th, 2007 09:59:59 PM
Chia! What? Too soon?
ShiftyEyedDog2, D. Vader, CherryValance; It's "KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA by drwynninblack	Nov 14th, 2007 10:04:53 PM
It doesn't matter what you MAY have "heard". Listen carefully and you can clearly hear that the sound is "Ki-ki-ki, Ma-ma-ma". You can CLAIM you heard something different...you can argue until you're blue in the face. "Everyone in the world" may agree with you...but, if you say it's "Ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha", you're wrong, whether you like it or not. It may "SOUND" like "CH-HA" to you, but it's NOT. All Harry did to create and record the sound was to record him saying, "Kill" and "Mama" into an echo-reverb machine. That's it. That's pretty much all he did. Even Harry laughs about the fact that people always think it's "Ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha". Christ...Harry signs posters, books, figures with the words "ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma". So, you're arguing not only against the words of the seris' creator, Sean Cunningham...but, also the guy who friggin' recorded the damn infamous sound to begin with. Think what you'd like to...but, you're wrong.
ShiftyEyedDog2... by drwynninblack	Nov 14th, 2007 10:08:34 PM
Also...you say "maybe those are the words". You're saying that "perhaps" I'm mistaken or wrong. If you don't friggin' believe me, go ask Harry for proof; http://www.harrymanfredini.com /
ShiftyEyedDog2... by drwynninblack	Nov 14th, 2007 10:09:49 PM
Or try this; http://profile.myspace.com/ind ex.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewpro file&friendid=112112578&MyToke n=a2f9d516-cf0d-47eb-b20d-9bbe 6f005f4f
chi-chi-chi/ki-ki-ki... by TheNorthlander	Nov 14th, 2007 10:25:47 PM
Read what Douglas Adams had to say about you pedants and non-pedants. http://tinyurl.com/sl5zg
The original is shit, so what's the harm? by Osmosis Jones	Nov 14th, 2007 10:27:22 PM
Aren't people always bitching that they should remake LAME old movies instead of classics?
Didn't Kelly Hu appear in the Manhattan one? by Osmosis Jones	Nov 14th, 2007 10:37:39 PM
Saw a YouTube clip of her (she couldn't have been older than 20) getting strangled by Jason in a ballroom, or something.
Pedant... by drwynninblack	Nov 14th, 2007 10:38:53 PM
I'm fine with being a "pedant" (someone who over-emphasizes small details). What I'm NOT fine with is when someone argues against "facts". Other talkbackers are saying "it's not THOSE words"...or "it MAY be those words, but...". They're arguing against facts and actual quotes from Cunningham and Manfredini. That sort of irritates me. Sorry if that makes me look pedantic.
"KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA" PROOF from COMPOSER HARRY MANFREDINI HIMSELF by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 12:16:54 AM
Still think you're right about "Ch-ch-ch-ha-ha-ha"? Watch this video, which should end this asinine argument once and for all. Watch his lips and you can ACTUALLY SEE him making the sounds "Ki" and "ma"; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kUMaanlStO8
HARRY MANFREDINI Link... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 12:18:50 AM
And, just in case you're wondering; Harry himself sent me this link because he wanted to help me put an end to the fallacy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kUMaanlStO8 Owned.
Thanks drwynninblack by TheDohDoh	Nov 15th, 2007 12:23:53 AM
THANK YOU. This is the dumbest argument of all time. Thanks for ending this shit for good. How do people claim to like/love F13 when they don't know the ki-ma story???
No Probelm, "The DohDoh"... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 12:30:09 AM
Don't thank me, thank Harry instead. Like I said, I've been to various events with him and heard him explain this story to dozens of people. The fact that people argue against it to this day is absolutely ridiculous. If they don't take the proof from Harry's mouth (LITERALLY!)...then they're just being stubborn assholes who can't stand to be proven wrong.
Michael Bay by tuan69	Nov 15th, 2007 12:32:51 AM
is a fucking god director. Genius. Armageddon is masterpiece. Don't deny it.
From Mr. Manfredini... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 12:33:36 AM
"Glad I could help... that's about as good as the horses mouth as you can get." 'Nuff said.
JimCurry by TheNorthlander	Nov 15th, 2007 12:35:31 AM
What do you mean it's not obvious?? 20 minutes into the movie you see them full frontal, running around in sneakers, jeans and hoodies! If they're not punk kids then what are they?? You know, I wish someone had told me about that before I saw it, because then it wouldn't have been such a huge disappointment. I really don't get why they would make up a story, claim it was based on true events and then spin it like it was Evil Dead meets Blair Witch Project when it's just a bunch of stupid kids. Fuck, those french people should have been able to take them out any time. What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, Friday 13th. Who's gonna play the young Kevin Bacon?
"KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA" PROOF from HARRY MANFREDINI HIMSELF (Reprise by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 12:50:12 AM
I've been made aware that the link in the other posts wasn't working properly. Here's an updated version; http://tinyurl.com/2gpj6l
SPAZATRONIC 2000... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 01:43:13 AM
The fact that you wrote that, despite the fact that I provided a link to VIDEO PROOF of Harry Manfredini himself proving you wrong means you are one of the following; A) deliberately just trying to "get my goat". B) Illiterate C) Deaf D) A prick. Take your pick.
Spazatronic 2000... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 01:43:56 AM
In case you somehow missed the link the first time; http://tinyurl.com/2gpj6l
Spazatronic 2000... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 01:45:16 AM
Also; "everyone knows that". Well, it must be "everyone" EXCEPT for the guy who invented the friggin motif and the original film's director, who have both gone on record as saying it's "ki-ki-ki-ma-ma-ma" and proving people like you wrong.
Help me settle a bet... by kujofbrooklyn	Nov 15th, 2007 01:46:10 AM
When Freddy vs. Jason was about to be released I put $20 on Jason to win. But my cousin won't pay up, saying that Freddy winking proves that Jason didn't win. But I argued that even if Jason didnt kill Freddy, he still won the fight. No? (If I can get enough people to agree, I'll try to use this TalkBack to get my money.)
oh yessssssssssssssssssssssss by ryan74	Nov 15th, 2007 02:24:49 AM
I didn't like TCM remake but at this point I want Jason back on the big sreen!!! can't wait!
"Please don't ruin the original!" by cyclo	Nov 15th, 2007 02:35:23 AM
In full 70's/80's defense-mode, I just saw the original Friday the 13th again and, er, well, it pretty much sucks, so I take that back.
drwynninblack - LET IT GO! by ShiftyEyedDog2	Nov 15th, 2007 02:37:45 AM
God, youd think someone skullfucked your mother or something. Like I said, ok thats the sounds he used, but it doesnt change the fact that youre a douchebag, and Harry Manfredini or whatever the fuck his name is is an even bigger douchebag for signing things with that sound and telling this story over and over like anybody gives a shit what he has to say.
what i liked most about F13 by Prossor	Nov 15th, 2007 03:33:34 AM
the atmosphere, a word bay doesnt know the meaning of.
Kujo by Lost Jarv	Nov 15th, 2007 04:05:54 AM
nope, by that film existing they are both, by definition, losers. I can't believe people think that has any merit whatsoever.
Nispel shoots his films beautifully by Seth Gecko	Nov 15th, 2007 04:55:31 AM
Was quite impressed by the 2003 TCM remake. Nispel shot the film immaculately and the story had some bite although it's editing wasn't tight enough. Friday the 13th Films are quite repetetive so we can only hope they kickstart the franchise with some intelligent backstory as to what drives Jason, and not simply because he wants to avenge his mother's death. Put your hands up who wants to see Jason square off against Michael Myers in a heavyweight deathmatch?
Seth Gecko by Lost Jarv	Nov 15th, 2007 06:02:29 AM
congratulations in one post you manage to sum up every single misgiving that is attached to this project. Things we don't want: 1)a repeat of that shitty TCM remake 2)Backstory 3)Jason v Myers.
BRING IT!! by zyuray2	Nov 15th, 2007 06:43:10 AM
As long as they have a black guy say this to Jason, I will be happy.
Chi Chi Chi Chi Aaa Aaa Aaa Aaa by JustyHakubi	Nov 15th, 2007 07:47:28 AM
I don't care what Harry put into the re-verb. He could have said 'George Bush blew up the levies' into the re-verb what came out was 'Chi Chi Chi Chi Aaa Aaa Aaa Aaa'.
I don't like the idea of a re-make. by JustyHakubi	Nov 15th, 2007 08:01:55 AM
First off, they generally suck. Most of what gives a movie an endring quality is the original production. That production was set in an era, it had a certain look, the cast had a unique interaction. These things can't be reproduced. Even if they try to make a period piece, it ends up looking like a modern reproduction of a period piece because the film quality is different from the original. Then if they decide to make a modern adaption you alienate the fans of the original. I personally have an idea of what they could do if they want to make another movie based on Friday the 13 would be to base the story on the events of the end of part 2. Jason comes crashing through the glass he grabs the girl and carries her off into the woods. Let's say he forces himself on her before she escapes. Then medical reasons prevents her from having an abortion. She carries the baby to term. Boom, you have Jason's kid. Then you can run wild with story ideas after that. Great B movie material.
ShiftyEyedDog2 - Whatever... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 08:28:37 AM
I'm a douchebag and Harry Manfredini is a douchebag for speaking the truth? OK...and you're clearly so much better than we are for insisting you're right despite proof showing otherwise. And, apparently no one cares what the guy who invented the damn sound has to say? Wow. Show some respect and grow a brain.
JustyHakubi... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 08:30:45 AM
Watch the clip...you can say it came out that way...but it didn't. Why do people who are wrong insist otherwise? http://tinyurl.com/2gpj6l
"Let It Go"... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 08:39:55 AM
I'm finished here. People seem to want to cling to false realities for some reason. Believe what you want, keep yourself convinced in your error. That's fine with me. "CH-HA" believers are wrong...and no matter what you say, it doesn't change that fact. I'm off to live in the real world.
howabout they call it ... by irrelevntelefant	Nov 15th, 2007 08:44:01 AM
Wednesday the 11th. Jason goes around to comic book stores slaying geeks that are a. still suprised Hollywood is willing to remake ANYTHING b. are ok with the remake, but have script outlines that, without, any remake would suck. c. anyone actively in a heated debate about "ch-ch-ch-aa-aa" vs "ki-ki-ma-ma"
Vern, "Jason X" was about as fun as a colonoscopy. by El Scorcho	Nov 15th, 2007 08:53:26 AM
None of the films in the series are better than a score of about 2.5/4 - not one. 2 and 3 and 6 are kinda fun, but the original was pretty bad. 5 is one of the worst films I've ever seen. There's no way to ruin this franchise, not like what Zombie did with Halloween. He actively shit all over a masterpiece. That won't (can't) happen here.
BOOM!!! by Damned if I can login	Nov 15th, 2007 08:56:15 AM
Sound of a DEAD HORSE
...being shot by Damned if I can login	Nov 15th, 2007 08:57:43 AM
Damned fat-finger fuck up. And damned bloody boards with no editing features.
Memory lane: here's the sleeping bag kill by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 15th, 2007 09:01:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =JhJfH0rpc8E
I have chosen CH-CH-CH HA-HA-HA by gboybama	Nov 15th, 2007 09:14:57 AM
and here's why... Couse that's fucking what it sounds like!
Oh, and here's the first sleeping bag kill by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Nov 15th, 2007 09:16:24 AM
and when they did it again in Jason X. Sorry, re-makes suck. Original was better. http://www.i-mockery.com/hallo ween/greatest/friday13th.php
I choose KI-KI-KI-MA-MA-MA by LordGeek	Nov 15th, 2007 09:28:49 AM
and here's why... cause that's what was fucking used.
i choose.... by irrelevntelefant	Nov 15th, 2007 09:40:43 AM
chitty-chitty-bang-bang.... cause the remake should be a musical...
just listened to the clip by irrelevntelefant	Nov 15th, 2007 09:43:39 AM
it's definitely gi-gi-gi-ta-ta-ta-ly-ly-lyf
this reminds me of the "chid" controversy by CherryValance	Nov 15th, 2007 09:48:01 AM
surrounding Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean". In the song he clearly says "the chid is not my son" but the official lyrics say "the child is not my son" and people argued over many a lunch table whether it was in fact "kid" or "child" or "chid". Obviously no one knew what a "chid" was, but that was beside the point. No wonder we can't bring about world peace.
Ch-Ch-Ch -VS- Ki-Ki-Ki by Merrick	Nov 15th, 2007 09:56:00 AM
For whatever it's worth, the "Ki-Ki-Ki-Ma-Ma-Ma" info was verified by a known & trusted source. This bit of trivia was news to me, and my ears certainly never heard it that way, but...apparently...that's the deal.
Thank You, Merrick... by drwynninblack	Nov 15th, 2007 10:15:23 AM
Thanks for your input on the "discussion", Merrick. You verified it using your source, and it's been verified by the composer himself and the series creator and original film's director. It seems that certain people just don't like to admit when they're wrong. Thanks again for the verification.
So it's neither "Ki-Ki-Ki" nor "Chi-Chi-Chi" . . . by idonotseekabanning	Nov 15th, 2007 10:23:35 AM
It's KILL! I don't care what you hear! I'm just being a prick. Ignore me. No message could have been any clibba. If you want to make the world a better place, better look at yourself and then make a chain.
wow...we need something interesting to be posted... by just pillow talk	Nov 15th, 2007 10:26:59 AM
I can't believe there's nothing going on....
I thought it was Jay jay jay - son son son by Yeti	Nov 15th, 2007 10:58:58 AM
For this remake they can use crap crap crap - fest fest fest
Jason vs. Jason, the Last Argonaut by idonotseekabanning	Nov 15th, 2007 11:09:52 AM
The latter has some experience dealing with the undead.
so if they go with by irrelevntelefant	Nov 15th, 2007 11:15:02 AM
"chi-chi-chi" instead of "ki-ki-ki", does Manfredini get paid royalties/residuals? does he get paid by the "ki"?
MoM, your missing the point... by irrelevntelefant	Nov 15th, 2007 11:51:15 AM
it's "ki-ki-ki" not "chi-chi-chi" dammit man, there is no room for rational argument here. stay on topic...
Actually, it IS Ch-ch-ch-ch-ah-ah-ah-ha by TheNorthlander	Nov 15th, 2007 12:14:15 PM
I know that old story too about Manfredini, but it's actually a myth. I suggest all you Ki-Ki-Ki-ers go check this out to find out the whole truth: http://tinyurl.com/ysgl2l
DAMN NO EDIT BUTTON! by irrelevntelefant	Nov 15th, 2007 12:21:21 PM
I is sorry, the childrens have suffering do to mine error. i'm more the type fast, ask questions later....
IT MUST HAVE! by foglight55	Nov 15th, 2007 12:27:33 PM
So since it's a Micheal Bay movie is there going to be a highway chase scene where the kids try driving out of there, but Jason hijacks a camp vehicle and chases them down, then theres some big explosions and whatnot.
foglight55 by TheNorthlander	Nov 15th, 2007 12:31:16 PM
You know what? I wouldn't mind. I'd be a nice break from the tediousness o

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