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Hey, cool--he's a legend
by Abominable Snowcone
Nov 6th, 2007
11:09:37 AM
I give Redford mad props.
Nice piece
by RenoNevada2000
Nov 6th, 2007
11:11:55 AM
Though a little short. Still, I'll take a short but thoughtful interview over a long one of little to no substance.
Adrian Veidt
by GaiusBaltarsMojo
Nov 6th, 2007
11:21:26 AM
About 15 years ago Redford would have been the perfect choice for Watchmen. You know its true!
this TB could get ugly
by Sir Loin
Nov 6th, 2007
12:14:13 PM
Admittedly I haven't seen this yet, but it looks like another "America BAD!"-type film. Gotta love how Bush-hatred generates such golden quotes like, "They need to be raging against the machine because their future should be more in their hands than in the hands of the leaders we now have that are destroying them." LOL. Oh, Bobby...the 60's are over, man. In your mind, Bushco McCheneyburton is more evil than fanatics who blow themselves up to kill as many as possible (including WOMEN AND CHILDREN, Bobby!) and think they're getting 72 virgins for it. LOL Hollywood.
film will bomb
by batjac
Nov 6th, 2007
12:22:37 PM
reviews have been awful. It's a talk fest yawner. Redford should have done Sneakers II.
Anchorite
by Abominable Snowcone
Nov 6th, 2007
12:24:05 PM
Legend in his own time, perhaps. I'll give ya that.
Redford can still land more ass than any of you.
by scudd
Nov 6th, 2007
12:31:16 PM
And you know it.
I don't get it
by Regina V. Dudley
Nov 6th, 2007
12:42:57 PM
Why does everybody think that your garden variety left-leaning Hollywood type must also be a closet Jihadist with a soft spot for "poor, disenfranchised freedom fighters"? Isn't it conceivable that someone might want to win the War on Terror (whatever that might mean) and also be critical of the government at the same time? The trailer certainly seems to suggest that Redford's beef is with yes/no, black/white debates rather than any particular policies.
Dear Mr Redford, I can appreciate your
by Tarl_Cabot
Nov 6th, 2007
01:00:41 PM
point of view but have you been to Venezuela lately? How's socialism(dictatorship) working out down there? I hear the rich left(talent,job creating entrepreneurs)are leaving in droves(brain drain) for Brazil and Miami.America has a shitload of problems and the current regime is a total disaster but turning commie isn't my idea of an improvement.
To anchorite
by Frye777
Nov 6th, 2007
01:01:20 PM
You think your country can win the "War on Terror"? I hate these bastards too but you can not be that stupid. You can never destroy terrorism. Kill one, get 100 new one.
I will see your movie though
by Tarl_Cabot
Nov 6th, 2007
01:02:31 PM
I give credit where credit is due.
"Don't Know How Polarized" The Country Is?
by KosherWookie
Nov 6th, 2007
01:17:35 PM
Well, Robbie, just wait to see the box office on your little opus... That will let ya know.
Bow to Frye777
by 5 by 5
Nov 6th, 2007
01:18:27 PM
I agree with him. We should give up now and either chop off our own heads or adopt sharia law.
I MUCH PREFER THE PICTURES OF JEN CONNELLY, THANKS
by Pound Sand
Nov 6th, 2007
01:35:21 PM
Q: Why did Robert Redford jerk off in a jar of Paul Newman's Spa
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 6th, 2007
01:37:34 PM
A: He's known Paul Newman for 40 years, he's not going to jerk off into the competitor's brand!
crap.
by rev_skarekroe
Nov 6th, 2007
01:37:55 PM
Just let us make the headlines as long as we want again, dammit.
true she has nice tits
by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell
Nov 6th, 2007
01:38:07 PM
ASS FUCKABLE!
since this is the internet, why not post mp3's
by howardroark
Nov 6th, 2007
02:16:40 PM
let us hear these interviews instead of reading them.... saves all of us time. (unless you love transcribing)
I hate extremists! Of all shape and sizes.
by Norseman1111
Nov 6th, 2007
02:59:37 PM
The rest we can work out over beer and Jennifer Connelly pictures.
Pointless
by jorson28
Nov 6th, 2007
03:05:26 PM
For starters, this isn't a reaction to the movie but to the interview. Redford has no answers and I don't think he wants to. He complains about how bad things are now, then complains how boring everything was when things were good in the fifties. I'm no fan of the Iraq war, but no political party is completely innocent. Bush and the Republicans started it and the Democrats let it happen. If the right-wing Republicans are war mongerers, then the left-wing Democrats are cowards, equally dangerous and by Redford's own indirect admission since he seems to think that apathy and inaction is bad. Why didn't anyone have the guts to ask Redford if he would have preferred there to be a draft? He talked so much about it -- mentioned it would have meant the end of the administration he hates so much -- so why not ask him if he wishes there had been one? If he said no, it would call into question just how badly he wants this administration gone. If he said yes, then it would have signaled that, to him, the ends justify the means and I would hardly call that the perfect American-left-wing philosophy. Given the means was always to end terrorism and take out a violent dictator -- which, by the way, is what Democrats and liberals have wanted to do in Africa for decades - it would be a justification for what's going on now. As for action, the kind of action Redford seems to be promoting has been going on since before the war began, and what's come of it? Protest after protest, in Washington, on Bush's ranch in Crawford, anywhere there's a liberal or left-leaning moderate, and... what? That's the sort of hippie bullshit that actually contributed to Bush's re-election in 2004. I think people looked at the ballot and asked themselves whether a war overseas and at least a steady economy was worse than being ruled by a Democratic party whose biggest mouthpieces were people like Michael Moore leading his slacker uprising. Do you really think that anyone that actually works for a living and pays their bills wants to be represented by a party whose highest ideals are preached by self-proclaimed slackers -- not just in movies but at candidate conventions? As for rights being stripped away -- what rights? Privacy? Like hell... any American with a credit card and an Internet connection gave up their privacy the minute they applied. People post all sorts of disgusting, private information online, on MySpace and blogs, all the time, but when it seems like the government is going to take a concerted interest in the name of national security, then uh-oh, here come the Nazis. Bottom line, at least the right-wing is consistent. It doesn't mean their leadership is always the best or even halfway decent, but if there's hypocrisy there, they at least know how to manage it and keep it from completely destroying their credibility and threatening the votes in their own party. The left has a guy like Redford referencing drugs as if they were a positive, galvanizing force for the ACTION taken in the sixties, but then has groups like the ones making the TRUTH ads villifying corporations for making cigarettes -- but, interestingly, never do the ads say, "Don't smoke." No, if you smoke, it's not YOUR responsibility, it's the corporations.' I guarantee that most conservatives that even know about this are sitting back and thinking, well, if the left want to go back out there with gaudy signs and foul language to "protest," more power to them -- they'll desroy the credibility of their own party and we'll have another Republican administration in 2008. 'Not like a Democratic majority in the House has changed anything, and if the "galvanized" left doesn't vote Democrat, they don't have a candidate with a chance of winning.
LOOK A HUGE SPOILER FOR THE DARK KNIGHT!
by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell
Nov 6th, 2007
03:07:39 PM
http://www.superherohype.com/n ews/topnews.php?id=6496 TAKE OUT THE SPACES! IM NOT READING IT EITHER! LALALALALA!
wow, Jorson28
by rock-me Amodeo
Nov 6th, 2007
03:22:38 PM
that was cool. Well said.
Thanks for the Q&A Redford
by Cajun_Mike
Nov 6th, 2007
03:34:01 PM
Redford, you're a Grade-A liberal douchebag and the American people aren't buying your drivel. Movie receipts are in the dumper as no one wants to go the movies and see your movie or any of the other Hollywood anti-American hit jobs that have been rolled out so far. There are meds available for your Bush derangement syndrome (BDS).
Wow, he really loves himself.
by El Scorcho
Nov 6th, 2007
03:36:19 PM
What a tool.
Some People have Earned the Right to Love Themselves
by Larry of Arabia
Nov 6th, 2007
03:50:01 PM
He's one of them. Even if he wasn't in some of the greatest movies of all time he would still be the man who started Sundance.
I, Too, Have Made My Mind Up About This Film
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 6th, 2007
04:16:46 PM
Without seeing it.

Boring.

Yawn.
Also, Redford Talks a Lot Without
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 6th, 2007
04:24:06 PM
Reaching any conclusions, For Free!
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 6th, 2007
04:24:36 PM
So why would I need to pay to go see the movie?
TRUTH anti smoking ads
by dr sauch
Nov 6th, 2007
04:25:38 PM
They are so fucking bad. Kids do not care that tobacco companies lied in the 50's. Big business has more money and smarter people to cover up their lies, and the only lies we know about are the ones they let us know about. The only commercials that work are people coming on TV and saying, "I'm 26 and I have cancer cause I smoke, here is an X-RAY of my lungs". That scares the shit out of kids, but instead that goofy black guy is going around doing dumbass PUNK'd pranks in front of buildings. fucking waste.
Wow, if talkbackers are in any way representative of public opin
by Bob X
Nov 6th, 2007
04:28:09 PM
then America is fucked. True Democrats these days are cowards, like farmers on Tatooine, when they should be more like the rebellion. But they're not the ones FUCKING EVERYTHING UP and destroying America from the inside while making it the most hated country in the world and doing more damage than terrorists could ever hope to. Shouldn't people be attacking the fucking Empire instead??!! It's a sad state of affairs when the only guy I agree with in this thread is a huge dick who should have been banned ages ago.
Redford
by Christopher3
Nov 6th, 2007
04:36:31 PM
Right after 9/11. That would have given warmongering right-wingers pause about initiating ill-equipped missions to nowhere, lazy hippie liberals some sense of duty and patriotism, and terrorists second thoughts about attacking a militarily-trained citizenship with freakin' box cutters.
I meant to say...
by Christopher3
Nov 6th, 2007
04:36:56 PM
Redford's right that there should have been a draft.
Dear Neocon lovers
by quantize
Nov 6th, 2007
04:51:21 PM
enjoying getting crispy in hell.
Another thing Redford...
by Cajun_Mike
Nov 6th, 2007
04:51:35 PM
Even your liberal friends in the media are panning your movie. This moveon.org tripe is currently sitting at certified rotten at 33-percent favorable right now at Rotten Tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ m/lions_for_lambs/
I love it when people use Rotten Tomatoes as a judge
by slone13
Nov 6th, 2007
05:49:57 PM
Morons.
Bob X: "...huge dick who should have been banned ages ago"
by jorson28
Nov 6th, 2007
06:09:01 PM
Thanks for the laugh, Bob, assuming I'm actually the one you refer to since you did practically quote what I said about Democrats. Side with the ones that slam the right for, among other things, supposedly taking away freedoms and then declare one of the first allegedly conservative talkbackers on the board (or at least the most verbose) to be someone that should have already been banned. Personally, I think we Americans have it so good on a day to day basis regardless of the war or even an economic slump (which doesn't exist right now) -- compared to a lot of other nations -- that we don't really know what bad is -- any more than we know what real Fascism or Communism is because if we did we woudn't see as much difference between the two. Don't take my word for it -- read the heroic humanitarian George Orwell: http://orwell.ru/library/artic les/As_I_Please/english/efasc. We die of cancer because WE smoke. We feel repressed because we try to ban each other and blame it on the government. We get in a hopeless and useless war in Iraq because we vote not only for the people that start it, but the people that didn't have the guts to stand against it when it would have actually done some good and why? Because the right-wing has enough money to just about do whatever they want with impunity and the left, when it's not taking that money or the power that comes with being associated with it in exchange for complicity, it cares more about opinion polls, just like it cares more about how America is viewed by other countries than it does about taking a real stand or about our right to defend ourselves -- a reference to your suggestion that somebody should be attaking the "EMPIRE," presumably the U.S. 'Fact is, I don't fault Bush for involving us in a war. Frankly, I agree with Machiavelli in that war can be postponed but never avoided indefinitely. I fault Bush for getting us into the wrong war and for having faulty reasoning and almost non-exisent forsight on how to actually win it. In any case, God forbid we as a nation ever come into any REAL danger, or America ever becomes a REAL Empire run by Bush's ilk (or anyone with characteristics which you apply to Bush and the right-wing), because if that were the case, we wouldn't even be having this discussion - PERIOD. Communication wouldn't just be monitored, we'd be dragged off in massive numbers just for launching sites like this which flaunt its opposition to the current government. So why do I bother? Frankly, I get a kick out of it all, and I'd wager to say that most of the people on here do, too, whether it's admitted or not. That's not saying I don't really believe what I write or that I don't care as much as I profess, but it is saying that I've learned not to be as polarized and unfoundedly biased for or against one political party or the other in my discussions. Then again, as vitriolic as I've been, you're welcome to call me out on the part about bias.
PS: Speculation on why I've NOT been banned
by jorson28
Nov 6th, 2007
06:13:32 PM
There are probably two reasons I've not been banned. First, I rarely use vulgarity. I do sometimes, but not to the extent that a lot of other talkbackers do. I also don't use hate speech or condone or recommend direct, harmful action against any group or individual. That leaves only my viewpoints as criteria for banning, so on that note, while I don't agree with Harry's politics, he at least doesn't seem to be a hypocrite when it comes to everyone having the right to express their viewpoints. I'm fairly confident about that because he even responded directly to a complaint I had about the site a couple of years back by e-mail -- a lot more graciously than most of us (including myself at times).
Note on Orwell & Fascism Vs. Communism
by jorson28
Nov 6th, 2007
06:34:20 PM
I read recently that George Clooney, ever the political activist, is involved in another film adaptation of "Nineteen Eighty-Four." If he thinks it's going to be a direct rebuff to any current conservatism or form of Fascism, he obviously doesn't know the history of the book. Per Orwell's own essay about why he writes and, particularly, his influences for the totalitarian society depicted in his book: "Much of Oceanic society is based upon Stalin's Soviet Union. The "Two Minutes' Hate" was the ritual demonisation of State enemies and rivals; Big Brother resembles Joseph Stalin; the Party's archenemy, Emmanuel Goldstein, resembles Leon Trotsky, (both are Jewish, both have the same physiognomy, and Trotsky's real surname was 'Bronstein'); doctored photography is a propaganda technique and the creation of unpersons in the story, analogous to Stalin's enemies being made nonpersons and being erased from official photographic records; the police treatment of several characters recalls the Moscow Trials of the Great Purge." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N ineteen_Eighty-Four Granted, much of the analogies could apply to Fascist, so-called "conservative" regimes, but that's the point -- that it goes both ways. And for the record I have no intention of defending Fascism over Communism let alone defend either one Now, who wants to call anyone against the Democratic party a Fascist and who wants to call anyone against the Republicans a Communist?
When'
by Pound Sand
Nov 6th, 2007
07:07:34 PM
*ahem* When is Legal Eagles 2 coming out?
by Pound Sand
Nov 6th, 2007
07:08:06 PM
Daryl Hannah gotta eat.
ROBERT REDFORD TALKBACK ...
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 6th, 2007
07:30:56 PM
Anchorite here pushing his Muslim-hating Zionist agenda? Check.

AnimalStructure here dripping usual verbal diarrhea? Check.

Think I'll read the interview now.

Didn't DailyKos endorse this film?
by Sir Loin
Nov 6th, 2007
07:43:41 PM
That's the stamp of death right there. Kos tried to get what, 16 people elected a few years ago and was 0-16. Awesome!
jorson28 & sk229
by Sir Loin
Nov 6th, 2007
07:58:42 PM
Terrific posts, loved the "1984" history as well. Divisive talkbacks like this CAN be reasonable as you've demonstrated. Redford made it too easy in this case, a perfect example of elitist, narrow-minded Hollywood denizens. I love his older works, it's unfortunate he's completely lost it like Joe Dante and Brian De Palma have.
If you are confused or lost, ask yourself simply 'WWRRD'?
by Pound Sand
Nov 6th, 2007
07:59:21 PM
Suddenly, the solutions are all right there in front of you.
This movie indeed does sound like liberal propaganda
by vezner2007
Nov 6th, 2007
08:15:39 PM
and since neither left wingers nor right wingers are capable of doing what's right for America, I choose to not see this movie. I'll tell ya one thing, the problem with America today is the radicals seem to have the most power (liberals in the media and right wingers in the big business). I weep for my sons who will group up in this shit pool.
EXCELLENT INTERVIEW, CAPONE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 6th, 2007
09:59:05 PM
I appreciate your letting Redford explain the film. I'm certainly going to give it a look; it addresses many critical issues of the day, as well as the future.

I'm also glad I missed out on the right-wing foaming-at-the-mouth-fest, which gave me a chance to contemplate Redford's points. Clearly the film is aimed at those whose futures will be greatly impacted - young people who, should the war continue on indefinitely, will likely have to serve. They are right to question the issues and judge for themselves if war is indeed the answer. Many would have people believe that it is the ONLY answer. They turn a blind eye towards diplomacy, strategic alliances, negotiations and responsible foreign policy. In gamesman terms, they regard the world more as a football field than a chess board.

In your previous political Talkback, there were 3 Talkbackers who spoke quietly and eloquently about their previous and upcoming military service. Having faced, or about to face deployment in the Mideast, none of them remotely resembled the rabid arm-chair warmongers in this TB. Where they earn and are due respect, the others deserve derision. To play bloodlusting cheerleader for others to fight, or to kill, or to suffer or die, on their behalf is the most cowardly act imaginable.

Which leads me to Anchorite.

There are a few outspoken right-wingers here. I may disagree with their opinions, and they mine, and that's fine. Having discourse is absolutely critical even when two or more sides get into heated debate.

But Anchorite is in a league all by himself. There are war-mongers, and then there are lunatic warmongers. His crazed call for America to escalate its brutality adheres to the vilest of agendas on the planet. He demonizes an entire race of people to draw America into war with the world. When an opportunity to incite hatred comes along - and a Robert Redford talkback qualifies - he types more than in the previous 90 talkbacks combined.

Anchorite is consistent in that he never carries out the conviction of his own words. He wants America to change, to become inhumane and brutal, yet he himself is a coward behind a keyboard. He wants the young high school and college students to take up arms against Muslims, to leave their families and become brutal and inhumane for him. He wants them to throw their educations and futures away, for him. He wants them to kill or be killed, to sacrifice their bodies and families, for him.

He is a coward.

I have the answer to his question to America:

"Who is willing to commit to such brutal and inhumane acts?"

The answer is: Not him.

By George
by The Duke Of Madness
Nov 6th, 2007
10:06:05 PM
Due to my incarceration for what was actually an act of rebellion, I cannot vote so therefore I don’t bitch. Truth be told while Robert Redford holds a torch for George Plimpton, I hold one for George Pérez. That man can draw something wicked.
Flops for Dollars
by spaceworlder
Nov 7th, 2007
12:35:25 AM
How does Robert Redford feel about the imminent flop of this $42 million picture?
I Second That, Panterarocks
by DudeOne
Nov 7th, 2007
01:01:48 AM
Is there anything worse than someone just ranting and raving? Oh, wait, I wasn't talking just about Redford right now (although he sure sounds like a looney), but BringingSexyBack - wow, you just have everything all in a little nutshell, huh? I wonder what kind of advice you would've given Abraham Lincoln - probably something like "forget about the slaves, they'll be okay!" You act like the soldiers in the war don't have a choice. Well, guess what BSB, they do! It's called "volunteering". In fact, many soldiers go back again a second time or even a third time. But you wouldn't understand that, because to someone like you, nothing is worth fighting for. Sad, indeed.
Dramacidal - Uh, What??
by DudeOne
Nov 7th, 2007
01:33:57 AM
I'm comparing: not calling people warmongers if they believe in going to war for something. There.
Dramacidal
by DudeOne
Nov 7th, 2007
01:41:55 AM
Sure, no worries! Glad I made myself understood.
*** Right-Wing Propaganda Bots ***
by SmilingPolitely
Nov 7th, 2007
03:11:31 AM
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Bob X
by Bobo_Vision
Nov 7th, 2007
06:01:36 AM
"It's a sad state of affairs when the only guy I agree with in this thread is a huge dick who should have been banned ages ago."

You're going to have to be more specific...haha!

DudeOne
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 7th, 2007
06:53:13 AM
Learn to read. Better yet, learn to read and comprehend what you read.

It's not about going to war for the sake of it. A civilized world goes to war as a last resort, after all other measures have been exhausted. Personally I don't regard Iraq as a war. Do you? It was an invasion and occupation of a country that did not attack us, had nothing to do with those who did. So far, it's resulted in hundreds of thousands innocent dead, and tens of thousands of American casualties. What exactly is the war rationale for that?

I pointed out the soldiers who participated in Capone's last Talkback. One completed his service in Iraq, and the other two are active duty. Although they support the military and honor their service, not one of them supported the reasoning for the occupation of Iraq nor called for an escalation in the violence. Therein lies the distinction you missed.

I can understand why you brought up Lincoln, because linking the Civil War to Iraq is a convenient smokescreen. And in the fog of war, a smokescreen is ever the necessity. In a Talkback, it's fairly harmless. But in the real world, people die from such deception. This isn't Rambo. This is the real world.

Dramacidal
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 7th, 2007
08:44:37 AM
I totally agree with you. They're like the guys on the side during a fight screaming "fight! fight! fight!". It's not them getting bloodied.
And the whole thing about soldiers volunteering
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 7th, 2007
08:46:55 AM
Now I remember which talkback it was that a few soldiers participated - it about Stop-Loss. Soldiers volunteered for duty, and National Guardsmen for stateside service - both groups were sent into battle without a way to get out, even after the requisite duty fulfillment. It's bullshit, and anyone saying they "volunteered" for war should have themselves forcibly volunteered in their place.
Saw a sneak of this movie:B-O-R-I-N-G
by thegreatwhatzit
Nov 7th, 2007
12:24:27 PM
A yawn fest (close-up, dialogue, close-up, dialogue, close-up, dialogue, cue Redford diatribe #104). It's the most shamelessy narcisstic film since TRIUMPH OF THE WILL. Bob, get a job in an Adam Sandler movie.
Redford has my 7 bucks.
by GQtaste
Nov 7th, 2007
01:59:43 PM
the guy is a living legend. nothing more to say about that. just for the natural alone would put him in that category.
Stop-Loss
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 7th, 2007
02:22:25 PM
Is an inexcusable practice, in no small part caused by the anti-Reagan peace-dividend slash-and-burn of the military perpetrated on the American military post-Ronald Reagan, by Bush, Sr., Bill Clinton, and then Dubya-Rumsfeld continue the philsophy of a "lean, modern" military. And I don't see a huge drumbeat to open up closed military bases.

Also, the film looks a little more interesting than this obvious snooze-fest. Before you go, BSB, remember to "Revive with Vivarin!"
You Can Support the War
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 7th, 2007
02:27:40 PM
Whether or not you fight in it, just as you are allowed to not support the war, whether or not you fight in it. I support the military, myself. I don't care for pre-emptive wars. I certainly don't see the point here. I think the idea was really (liberals may groan now) to liberate Iraq, but I think that's an insanely uphill battle--given that most of the Western media and all of the eastern media and conservative isolationists and liberal anti-war types are all going to be opposed. Still, I support the military and their current mission and think Robert Redford has almost certainly made the Sleepy-Time Herbal Tea of anti-war movies.
Darn Right, Animal Structure
by DudeOne
Nov 7th, 2007
04:43:10 PM
BSB, what?? Learn to read? Dude, I was an English Lit major, so any time you want a discussion about dissecting essays and getting to the heart of the matter, just let me know. As for your moronic diatribe against those who support the war (and I believe it is a war, one which we will be fighting for a long, long time), you go on one rant after another, never fully thinking it out. The UN gave Sadaam around 16 warnings, within a couple of decades. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing, and all of congress agreed on going into the war. And why is it wrong to compare the soldiers (or any soldiers, for that matter) in one war (Civil) to another? Why is that a smokescreen? It appears you have many smokescreens, i.e. saying that National Guard soldiers and those that volunteered for service before the Iraq War should not have been sent to a war they didn't support. Excuse me - but it seems whenever you volunteer for military service, you have to allow that you might get into some kind of war down the line. To say they had no idea that this might happen is to patronize these soldiers and put them down as stupid. Yes, I know it's the "real world" - especially after hearing the stories of the Battle of the Bulge and the landings in Normandy from WWII veterans in my family. They've seen things that would send you running, crying and hiding under your bed.
DUDEONE
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 7th, 2007
05:58:15 PM
You need a refund on your college tuition, because you got ripped off. If you need someone to vouch for your incompetent reading skills, let me know.

Firstly, define war. Invading and occupying another country that did not fight back may qualify as war in whatever institution of "higher learning" you attended, but not for the rest of us.

Secondly, the post you are responding to was not directed at war supporters in general. It was specifically directed at someone who was instigating an escalation of the conflict, to, and I quote, "be brutal and inhumane". To expand the conflict without regard for another country's sovereignty or borders. That's what I was talking about.

Thanks for your time in responding, misguided though you were.

Sincerely,

BSB

KEVINWILLIS
by BringingSexyBack
Nov 7th, 2007
06:02:14 PM
Do you re-use your Sleepy Time teabags? I do. They're too expensive not to. Each bag is good for 2 to 3 cups, IMO.
Supporting the Military or even a War
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 8th, 2007
06:54:25 AM
Really doesn't require that you go fight in that war. Even a large percentage of the military isn't "in the war". There is an accounting corps, for example. There are all sorts of folks that are forever stateside, doing the stuff that needs to happen. Families have sons go to war, wives have military husbands--if they believe in what their husbands or sons are doing, do they have to, ergo, pick up a gun and go to the front lines?

Additionally, I think people can really support a war or battle in the abstract, but feel their calling is elsewhere--on the homefront, teaching the children, doing drives to get air conditions to send over to the soldiers, etc. Or don't feel they would make a good soldier (even if fully supported the Iraq war, I wouldn't have enlisted, because I don't think I'd make a very good soldier).

I tend to agree that the idea that you have to be or do a particular thing to be allowed to have an opinion or a position on an issue is a rhetorical device meant to stifle discussion and avoid debate. It certainly doesn't allow a general discussion addressing and issue or policy on its merits, or lack thereof.
I Always Throw Away My Sleepy Time Tea Bags
by kevinwillis.net
Nov 8th, 2007
06:56:48 AM
After one use only. Now I am filled with regret.
Woah...who let all the Bill O'Reilly weirdos in?
by ScreamingPenis
Nov 8th, 2007
12:23:06 PM
go back to church or something
BSB - You Need to Go Back to College - uh, make that Elementary
by DudeOne
Nov 8th, 2007
03:27:07 PM
BSB - I was talking about you calling people "warmongers", which you obviously skipped over - so it seems if anyone needs a refund on their education, it's you. Obviously you don't bother to read people's posts correctly. And why should I define "war" do you? You just go on one tack after another, don't you? Besides, you'd just call me a "warmonger," no matter what I say, like you do everyone who doesn't agree with you. Talk about misguided! Dramacidal, thanks - I think. Although I don't know what you can learn from BSB, except that he likes to takes people's statements and twist them around.
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by jorson28
Nov 10th, 2007
08:12:34 PM
I was quoting YOU. hahaha
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