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by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell
Oct 26th, 2007
05:54:01 AM
whatever happened to the lost talkback
Frakin fuck!
by Boba Fat
Oct 26th, 2007
05:58:20 AM
Looked good. Razor should help stopgap the mammoth wait between seasons we're going to have in the the UK
Can't wait 'till the shakey cam fade is over
by Mace Tofu
Oct 26th, 2007
06:03:36 AM
just give me some fluid head please. One word, tripod. ( liked the old school C head : )
4th!!!!!
by Hybrid16
Oct 26th, 2007
06:07:28 AM
Getting close.
Cylons
by Hybrid16
Oct 26th, 2007
06:16:06 AM
they look much better there, reminded me abit of a stormtrooper.
Who cares we all?
by aceattorney
Oct 26th, 2007
06:18:08 AM
Not me.
This would be even cooler...
by Abin Sur
Oct 26th, 2007
06:42:23 AM
If I wasn't so PISSED at the April '08 start date for season 4.
Dennis "Denise" Bryson was DEA not FBI
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Oct 26th, 2007
06:46:49 AM
Get your facts straight Herc.
No way I am watching flash!
by Dazzler69
Oct 26th, 2007
06:56:56 AM
I hope they run them all at once on HDtv at some point. Not sure why Scifi channel is not HD at this point for comcast anyway.
Looks like someone saw Shoot Em Up.
by KillDozer
Oct 26th, 2007
06:58:09 AM
I really want to care about this, but all the bullshit around April start dates and splitting the season has just made me lose interest. Sorry, Sci Fi, you had your chance...
Does anyone know..?
by Stunt Vocalist 709
Oct 26th, 2007
07:09:19 AM
Are these webisodes with the old style Cylons actually footage from Razor or extra material? I've read that there's only a few minutes of old style Cylons, and it would be a shame if there's nothing new left to see when Razor comes out.
So sorry to see BSG go.
by Darth Sicilian
Oct 26th, 2007
07:14:29 AM
BSG is such a great show. The storylines, production value, and acting are far,far superior to other shows out there. So... I'm sending out a big F U to the idiot executives at the SCiFi channel for not getting behind BSG and renewing it for at least 2 more years. Hey suits...how are the ratings for Flash Gordon, Painkiller Jane, and Doctor Who? Which one of these series has been ethusiastically embraced by fans and critics? Which one has won writing and special effects awards? Which one has been a top selling DVD and a top downloaded show? Even if BSG was not the most profitable show (because of abovementioned production values)the exposure it got for the SciFi channel more than made up for it.
So KillDozer, let me get this straight...
by Executor
Oct 26th, 2007
07:15:05 AM
You've watched 3 seasons of BSG, but won't watch anymore? BUT you will spend your time watching the mini-sodes that AICN posts and commenting in the talkbacks?

Douchebag, you're going to watch, quit your crying and man up, April isn't that far away.

re: Stunt Vocalist. Yes, Herc knows.
by Executor
Oct 26th, 2007
07:16:46 AM
Read the invisotext: first 4 are not part of Razor, last 3 are.
Bond rip off
by fox5200
Oct 26th, 2007
07:18:32 AM
Just like 007 vs Jaws at the start of Moonraker. Only Bond doesn't take a pipe to Jaws at the end...
I've seen Razor and all the Razorettes.
by Hercules
Oct 26th, 2007
07:23:02 AM
There's a ton more stuff with the classic toasters in Razor that's not in the Razorettes. Fans of '70s Galactica are going to pee their pants.
Thanks Herc, but how's the lesbo action?
by Abin Sur
Oct 26th, 2007
07:27:15 AM
Priorities, man.
The lesbian action, tragically ...
by Hercules
Oct 26th, 2007
07:43:17 AM
... is only spoken of, and then just barefly.
I have my spare pants lined up
by TheBigDogg
Oct 26th, 2007
07:45:40 AM
Seeing the classic Cylon in there was fantastic. Herc, any shiny scenes? The best thing about those old Cylons was how shiny they were.
Dammit Herc!
by Abin Sur
Oct 26th, 2007
07:49:49 AM
Being the pig that I am, I must ask...did you see the TV version, or the extended DVD version? Perhaps I can hope for additional scenes that won't be broadcast on SciFi?
Exclusives sttuff everywhere
by RenoNevada2000
Oct 26th, 2007
07:51:23 AM
Man, I'm getting a bit itred of some stuff being exclusive to the web, other stuff being in the show, but tweaked in an another way, etc... Just put it all on the DVD and you get the sale. If the stuff ain't on it than forget it. I'm too busy to be running around all over the place trying to follow your show. (But evidentally not too busy to still take time out to complain about it all... :) )
BSG
by Wrath4771
Oct 26th, 2007
07:56:01 AM
Wow! After seeing the "Classic" Toaster, it makes me wish that they had used them in the series instead of the newer versions. I know that's an old complaint, but Classic toaster rocked.
Lighten Up People!
by Baron Merlot
Oct 26th, 2007
07:56:05 AM
I don't understand all this negative talk about the April '08 date. Yes, it stinks. Yes, I wish it were out sooner. But how many times have we been given sub-par material because studios or publishers rushed product out to meet deadlines or release dates? I'd rather have a high-quality product to remember fondly for years to come than look back and wonder what it could've been if they'd taken their time. As for the complaint about ending Galactica this soon, wouldn't you rather have a show go out on top than have it drag on?
Baron, it's not production that
by Abin Sur
Oct 26th, 2007
08:08:54 AM
Baron, it's not production that's keeping BSG off the air...
by Abin Sur
Oct 26th, 2007
08:10:32 AM
It's marketing. They've already filmed most of the first half of the season, and they're moving the start to April so the 2009 start of the second half of season 4 won't seem as far away.
Nice try Sci-fi channel
by jimmy rabbitte
Oct 26th, 2007
08:13:44 AM
This doesn't make up for screwing the fans of the show, by starting the 4th season, 4 months later than originally promised. The bottom line is, this move will hurt the show's ratings. Casual viewers of the show are just going to forget all about watching it.

I can't help but notice that the "Razor" air-date hasn't been changed. Of course not, it's scheduled to run in a sweeps month, nevermind the fact that we'll hardly remember what's happening, by the time the 4th season actually airs. Sci-fi channel = assholes.

With the April start date, Sci Fi WILL split up BSG Season 4
by SpyGuy
Oct 26th, 2007
08:17:55 AM
By the time the first ten episodes of Season 4 end sometime in June, it will be time for Series 4 of DOCTOR WHO to begin its initial U.S. broadcast run. And then, fourteen weeks later, Sci Fi can air the last half of BSG Season 4 sometime around October. Just wait and see...
Screencaps or anything?
by Brody77
Oct 26th, 2007
08:25:11 AM
Can't view this - really wanna see the Toasters! lol
The April start sets up January 09 2nd half start
by Razorback
Oct 26th, 2007
08:25:33 AM
Guaranteed. They want two chances at Emmy's for the last season.
Perhaps our children will get to see the series end...
by tonagan
Oct 26th, 2007
08:27:56 AM
Ah well, always nice to be reminded of your mortality.
Abin Sur...You Make Sense.
by Baron Merlot
Oct 26th, 2007
08:28:58 AM
If true, I stand corrected, sir.
Executor...
by KillDozer
Oct 26th, 2007
08:52:43 AM
Yeah, I watched the first three seasons. Thought the third was weak and lost interest in the fourth after hearing all this bullshit surrounding the fourth.

Read on and you'll see I'm not alone.

Oh, I almost forgot: Fuck you. It's not that hard to respond to someone without being a dick. Give it a try sometime.

Merlot...
by Abin Sur
Oct 26th, 2007
09:05:36 AM
I've always preferred that studios, whether they be TV or movie, take the time to create a quality product...so we're in total agreement about that. In this case, however, it's about dollars. SciFi has built ZERO goodwill with the sci-fi fans, and I think it's finally becoming apparent to them. Once BSG is gone, SciFi will not be long for this world unless something DRASTIC changes.
not watching flash again
by palewook
Oct 26th, 2007
09:18:40 AM
so thanks for posting this
how sci fi
by cesaria
Oct 26th, 2007
09:25:11 AM
is even functional is beyond me. they should shut down that lame channel and swap bsg to nbc and watch the ratings sky rocket

by subpop2000
Oct 26th, 2007
09:26:20 AM
did anyone think they focused on the blood on adama's chin a bit too much towards the end of the clip...?? was the blood his... or the cylon's? if it was the cylon's... what if the early cylon toasters were actually some of the twelve models... as in the four... and thats why there is a rift between them and the other twelve...? (ala clone troopers from star wars)... just a thought...
That Ruled
by PotSmokinAlien
Oct 26th, 2007
09:27:28 AM
Well, on the bright side....
by zer0cool2k2
Oct 26th, 2007
09:29:13 AM
That's another year I can be a Viper Pilot for Halloween.
Old vs. new school
by Cobbio
Oct 26th, 2007
09:33:22 AM
I actually prefer the new Cylon over the shiny 1970s Cylon. The "Husker" flashbacks require the 1970s model to enter play, which is fun and cool to see, but the newest Terminator model Cylon is way more badass. It also makes a lot more sense from a "winning the war" standpoint. It'll be cool to see the older model come into play, though.

Also, the actor playing young Bill Adama is really good. Facially he's similar, but speech and motion wise, he nails it too. Great casting.

Subpop2000
by zer0cool2k2
Oct 26th, 2007
09:33:22 AM
I was thinking exactly the same thing. That the blood on adama was from the Cylon. I'm also very curious as to who's (female) hand is grasping Adama's arm from what looks like a regeneration pod in that still from the flashbacks. Roslin? Ellen? Six?
Hey
by carpetofstars
Oct 26th, 2007
09:38:27 AM
Here's an idea. All we need to do is go and find a sci-fi fan who has some Ted Turner money lying around so we can start up an alternative to the Sci Fi channel. They can get away with treating you so shitty because of an absolute lack of competition. The Space channel if Canada is in need of developing it's own programing and they are owned by the CHUM group who are some of the more open minded chance taking people you're going to find in TV anywhere.
I detect SciFi channel people posting in this talkback
by snowpuff
Oct 26th, 2007
09:42:37 AM
They're easy to spot.
young adama
by LegoKenobi
Oct 26th, 2007
09:46:21 AM
i think the actor is well cast physically, and i think he has the mannerisms of the elder adama we all are familiar with down, but the more i see of these clips, the more i feel it's a mistake to have him so completely similar. i think it would have been better to have him have some similar mannerisms, but NOT be so curmudgeony and cold and serious all the time. i think it would be better to have him like LEE adama at this point, all hopeful and positive. i think it would be cool to see him go through stuff that MADE him the hardass we all love now.
"By your design "
by 2Sheds
Oct 26th, 2007
09:55:55 AM
Glad to see the 70's spec Cylons back, even thought he does look like the costumes been put onto the body of one of the robots from I Robot. They just wont tolerate a guy in a suit these days, despite the superb job done recently with the Cybermen in Doctor Who.
Nice.
by veritasses
Oct 26th, 2007
10:14:21 AM
RDM kicking @ss and taking names. The downside is, this makes the BSG delay much harder to tolerate.
BOYCOTT this, and the Sweeps Broadcast of Razor
by chromedome
Oct 26th, 2007
11:00:08 AM
just get the dvd--can already pre-order it on amazon.

Fight em til we can't

and for god's sakes don't goose Flush's ratings by tuning in for this

"we're sorry this video is no longer available"
by newc0253
Oct 26th, 2007
12:47:16 PM
frak you, AICN, for teasing me.
Zone 2 DVD of Season 3
by Gorgomel
Oct 26th, 2007
12:50:02 PM
Sure we already got season 3 on dvd. But there are no supplements and they didn't put the webisodes. :(
tell everyone about the Nov. 12th Razor screenings in select cit
by PVIII
Oct 26th, 2007
01:00:32 PM
it's your job
also season 4 returns in April
by PVIII
Oct 26th, 2007
01:02:21 PM
straight from the mouth of RDM
"...no longer available"?!?! Frak New Media Strategies!
by Robogeek
Oct 26th, 2007
01:11:58 PM
This is what we call "incompetence". NMS just did more harm than good by pissing off fans. (And btw? Adding reflectivity to all those photos on your bio page looks retarded.)
WTF?
by Hairy Nutsack
Oct 26th, 2007
01:12:18 PM
Not so exclusive for long eh? Thanks for nothing.
hmmm
by PVIII
Oct 26th, 2007
01:19:31 PM
which Herc had already posted.
AICN, now with exclusive material available for the next 3 secon
by Tai_Pan
Oct 26th, 2007
02:27:37 PM
What's the point, Herc? It's disappointing.
"This has all happened before, and it will all happen again."
by snowpuff
Oct 26th, 2007
03:28:18 PM
Maybe they were referring to the repeating cycle of the SciFi channel mistreating its viewers?
Executor
by Stunt Vocalist 709
Oct 26th, 2007
07:41:59 PM
Thanks for the heads-up. I saw the above article just before leaving for work. Watched the video and in my hurry missed the invisotext. D'oh!
Sci fi channel is hilarious
by aicndoesntwantmorecowbell
Oct 26th, 2007
07:52:50 PM
watch some of their movies without laughing your ass off
I loved this show...
by JAGUART
Oct 26th, 2007
08:01:12 PM
But I've had enough of cigar-chewing She-Bitches in Space, and the Homos that Love Them. I ain't got any posters of Kate Mulgrew either. Take your gender bending shit and stick it up your wimpy asses.
Jumpy stuttering video on scifi.com
by SifoDyasJr.
Oct 26th, 2007
09:29:21 PM
Just not acceptable in this day and age. I bet this kind of quality is what we can look forward to on NBC/Universal's alternative to YouTube
What no
by localhero12
Oct 26th, 2007
10:12:55 PM
Stargate Atlantis talkback? It's the only thing I've got going for me on Fridays.
still over it
by Maniaq
Oct 27th, 2007
04:14:35 AM
not watching
KillDozer: fine you lost interest. Bye.
by Executor
Oct 27th, 2007
04:29:41 AM
Maybe you think I'm being a dick, but I'm just calling out the hypocrisy of not wanting to "waste" 42 minutes watching an episode of S4 BSG, but you'll spend an hour of your time reading articles about BSG, scanning invisotext, reading talkbacks, posting comments, rereading again, etc.

If you're done, be done.

If you're not, don't threaten us with leaving.

p.s. I stick by the "douchebag" comment as well.

and i know you're not alone...
by Executor
Oct 27th, 2007
04:31:22 AM
I'm not singling you out, there's Maniaq and others, but you were the one I read when I made the first comment. All other douchebags can read my comment and substitute their name if it fits.
*** SPOILER *** This razorette was too far fetched
by desloch
Oct 27th, 2007
04:50:58 AM
WTF! Are they trying to honor the original BSG by matching its cheesiness and stupidity? BSG 1978 was great when I was 8 years old, but upon watching it as an adult, I'm embarrassed that Larson put out such garbage.

One of the things that makes the new BSG so good is that it's *usually* believable. Sure, it's just a TV show and some silliness is put in there for the sake of dramatic effect, but come on... so it's time for a vote: Which is least believable:

S4 razorette4: We have two craft colliding in opposite directions. Both pilots bail. We're really supposed to believe that they'd be close enough to not only see each other, but the cylon was able to maneuver into Adams path? And the Cylon dropped its pistol when they collided. And the atmosphere was dense enough for Adama's chute to work. And after deploying his chute, Adama somehow landed in the exact same spot as the cylon.

S3 Exodus: Loading ~35k people on a bunch of spaceships as quickly as they did is logistically impossible,

S1 E?: Starbuck is the best viper pilot, best viper trainer, and best sharp shooter in the fleet.

S1 E4: Starbuck bails out of her viper and the moon's atmosphere is thick enough for her parachute to work. And the cylon raider happened to crash within walking distance of her landing site. And she happened to walk in the exact direction to find it. And it crashed without being damaged. And cylons don't secure them from being opened unauthorized. And she was able to figure out how to open it. And the controls were laid out so a humanoid could work them. And she figured it out that quickly. And she was able to find the Galactica afterwards. I rationalized that with "Oh, raiders have an auto pilot that engage in the event that the cyclon organism stop functioning... and uh it automatically cruises in to land close to the other falling objects. And the raiders were designed so that humanoid cylons could also fly them. And they have an auto pilot to go back to the largest ship in orbit. Yeah that must've been it. I guess"

There are others and each time Moore allows something absolutely retarded to take place it takes away from the show. Meh.

Wow, the old school Cylon looked great...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Oct 27th, 2007
05:09:16 AM
These minisodes make me like the idea of a BSG prequel series. Not the "Caprica" idea, but one that focuses on Young Adama. I really crave a well-written action adventure sci-fi series. Flash Gordon isn't it. And the current version of BSG is centered on character drama more (which is fine). I want another BSG series that is a fun shoot-'em-up, with old school Vipers, Basestars, Raiders and Cylon Centurians.
Bill Adama doesn't know how to call in a mayday?
by uss cygnus
Oct 27th, 2007
01:16:05 PM
I'll just eject now. No need to bother the Galactica. The gunfight in the air was totally unneccesary and stupid. Otherwise, pretty good.
Mace Tofu
by SadCadillac
Oct 27th, 2007
01:48:44 PM
No way, dude. Who wants to tune it to the same ol’ boring Lucasian-style pans and tilts? Shaky cam rules. This cinema-verite style of cinematography was co-opted by BSG’s producers from archival footage of wars from last century. In my mind, the look and feel of that style of shooting lends an air of immediacy and intensity to BSG that wouldn’t exist otherwise. Not to mention the fact that we might of not fell in love with the series in the first place, if the show hadn’t at least partially re-invented itself vis-à-vis innovative direction – Bear McCreary’s Eastern flavored score is another that comes to mind. In the end, these innovations have been an integral factor in making the show a success to a new legion of fans.
Gandalf fought the Beast in free-fall
by chromedome
Oct 27th, 2007
03:06:35 PM
Adama fights the Toaster in free-fall

Realistic? No.

FRAKKIN COOL SHIT? YES in both cases.

So Say Me All.

If any of us Self Identify as douchebags...
by chromedome
Oct 27th, 2007
03:09:51 PM
...then Executor apparently has a post for us to read and insert our names in if it fits...

Not being a douchebag, I didn't read it. But if an actual douchebag wants to read it for the rest of us....

I just realized that it is kinda fun to type "douchebag" in a TB, though....

God this sucked
by jbs0209
Oct 28th, 2007
02:37:05 AM
Wow, I keep coming back because I loved Galactica as a kid, and they have shown they can do the new Galactica so well.

But every time, they pull the pull the football away just like they're Lucy and me as Charlie Brown.

WTF with the in air wrestling gun fight? How did anyone think that was OK? It is just not even remotely believable. Stupid is not cool. Not until you hit Ed Wood territory. And this is too well done, from a technical stand point, to be in Ed Wood-land.

I am so done with this show.

I'll Netflix the DVDs of season 4 just to get closure


Oh and on the subject of shaky-cam. I getting over that. It was cool in Homicide. It was well done in Firefly. But now everyone is going it and it is just annoying. A little is good, BSG level is vertigo.

Oh, and to the people who said that by the time Season 4 starts we'll have forgotten Season 3, it won't matter Ron Moore will have hit is restart button by then. Every 3-4 episodes Ron likes to recon' the history of the series and try some new impossible unexplainable direction. Then in 4 episodes get bored and abandon this new direction for a newer direction.

I love when he inserts plot points into the "Previously On" section that never existed before. Just Orwellian.

great casting for Young Adama
by SantiagoAtez
Oct 28th, 2007
03:52:07 PM
His voice is spot on.
Executor...
by KillDozer
Oct 28th, 2007
06:11:16 PM
It's not hypocrisy, I post in these threads to let Sci-Fi know why some fans of BSG won't be tuning in so that, hopefully, they won't be such boneheads with their next successful show (if they're lucky enough to even have another one). Sucks to see yet another formerly great franchise flushed down the toilet.

I take it you work for the Sci-Fi channel since that's the only "us" I came close to threatening to leave. So sorry. It must really suck to be wasting your life on such mediocre bullshit...

KillDozer....
by Brians Life
Oct 28th, 2007
08:56:32 PM
Your spewing nonsense about some one ELSE wasting their life and here you are posting w/ the hopes of the Sci-Fi channel reading and looking woefully down at their shoes in a "we fucked up" manner. So much for claiming non-hypocrisy.
NOT TOASTY ENOUGH!
by J-Dizzle
Oct 28th, 2007
11:17:17 PM
Brian's Life...
by KillDozer
Oct 29th, 2007
06:36:46 AM
Spending 5 minutes posting in the hopes of improving my future entertainment choices is not even close to equivalent with going to a job every day to work hour after hour to help produce crap like Flash Gordon.

And I'm under no delusions about my single voice affecting Sci-Fi channel programming, but if enough people take 5 minutes out of their day to say why they're pissed that BSG and its future, maybe some of those posts will be noticed and the next time a pause will be given before another bad decision is made on a future franchise.

Note: I've still spent less than a half hour reading and posting about this topic. Not even the length of an episode...

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