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Kristen Bell Tonight
Electrifies HEROES??

First by rbrog77	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:59:41 AM
Really?
Nope, not really. by American Mythos	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:04:24 AM
Can't wait. I think last week signaled a turn around in the dull season, and tonight will prove it.
Hope you had a good weekend Herc... by Bono Luthor	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:07:27 AM
now about those Shatner as Kirk hints you made? Care to comment on the Shats denial? Anymore info to give up? http://tinyurl.com/ynu8ns
Ireland? by TheBigDogg	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:10:52 AM
I hope she has to fight an evil Leprechaun. Ireland is full of those. And somebody better say 'begorrah'.
Where are the costumes and capes? by GCH888	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:16:30 AM
Now that it seems every other person has super powers isn't it about time that a comic book geek is afflicted and he/she starts running/flying around in a superhero costume doing good deeds?
Heroes by hechtal	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:26:18 AM
I'm still on the fence with Heroes - last season it seems like they new where they were going, although I didn't like the ending. I still think the twist should have been that Linderman had a real nuclear weapon somewhere in downtown NY that Peter had to stop. The exploding man bit was kinda cool but didn't make much sense. Anyway, this season has been such a snoozefest. I mean, I CANNOT believe that Peter, knowing what he could do, wouldn't just take what he wants. Plus, the Mexican wonder twins are on par with Jessiki, D.L., and Micah - characters I could care less about. Last season they drug the story out way too much with them, and the new "Hero" who can replicate things she sees = lame. The whole Katrina thing was shoved in our faces. I want Heroes to get good again, ie have Sylar kill some people off.
So nothing happened really.... by tile_mcgillus	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:28:53 AM
AHHHHHHH! This show is starting to make my tummy hurt. It moves slower then Kathy Bates in a marathon.
crossing fingers for another good episode... by just pillow talk	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:31:04 AM
how was the Katrina thing shoved in our faces?
One word: FINALLY. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:47:23 AM
Not 7 weeks, or 5 weeks or 2 weeks away anymore. It's tonight, at longest last. And NBC has done a spectacular job, IMO at putting Bell over as a big deal in its ads leading up to tonight. That says to me they're encouraged by her work on the show and are confident enough to give her a mega-push over what would be the main storyline, Matt trying to find Molly's 'nightmare man'. Cannot wait. :D
Shat as Kirk... by American Mythos	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:47:54 AM
I know this isn't a Trek talkback, but Trek was mentioned. So, this movie is supposed to be about Romulans traveling back in time to kill Kirk, or so rumor has it, with back and forths between Spock in the 24th century and the TOS era? Well, a killer ending would be, after all is said and done and the past is saved, Ambassador Spock queries a young ensign about the death of Kirk on Veridian III, to which said ensign replies, "Uh, sir, James Kirk survived the Veridian III incident." And then we have the whole reunion of Nimoy and the Shat. I know, it throws time travel theory out the window (if Kirk survived Veridian III Spock would remember it and would never have queried about the death of Kirk on VIII), but it would be the coolest moment in Trek history. And keep that mf'n ending under wraps until the very moment audiences see it.
This rundown is why I quit watching by teethgnasher	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:51:18 AM
nothing happens.
There should be a costumed "Hero!" by thevision	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:56:51 AM
I agree. If superpowers started appearing in the real world, I have no doubt someone would put on a costume and fight crime because they would be inspired by comic books. It would be a great storyline in "Heroes" and could be done with humor; the series takes itself too seriously and I'm tired of the I-have-superpowers-but-want-to -be-normal-and- I'm-full-of-angst bullshit! They've managed to make Claire dull with her annoying Flying Emo boyfriend, Nikki/Jessica is still whining, Hiro's back-to-Japan storyline is dragging and the Latin Wonder Twins real power is boring the shit out of the viewers but I'm finding Reflex Girl from New Orleans interesting. They need to introduce a character who is inspired by comics and wants to be a Superhero! Coming up with a codename and costume would be a hilarious and original storyline.
Bell needs to get out of her Heroes contract and get in LOST by Ashok0	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:02:44 AM
See topic.
Ukraine is not Russia. by Dwide Shrewd	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:02:59 AM
That's like calling any of the Southwest states "Mexico". Oh, wait...
Is Sylar's new power "smacking people in the head"? by tonagan	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:05:06 AM
If he clocks yet another person with a heavy object tonight, I say yes.
I don't think Bell would have gotten a 13-episode by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:12:55 AM
guaranteed commitment from the Lost folks, anyway. Maybe half that, if that?
Trek by Hercules	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:13:58 AM
FACT! J.J. Abrams loves William Shatner. FACT! J.J. Abrams has the ability to bring Kirk from the dead. FACT! Shatner is 76. How many movies does Abrams need to bring Shatner back?
Would it be too much to ask if ElleBell by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:21:50 AM
fry the entire Irish mobster clan Peter has fallen in with?
Fact! Kirk was already brought back from the dead by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:26:28 AM
I think the book was called Avatar by Shatner (and his normal ghost-writing buddies, the Reeves-Stevenses)
So is 2.8 a rerun of the season premiere? by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:27:20 AM
Sure sounds like it
FACT! I love you Herc. by Bono Luthor	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:29:32 AM
Not in THAT way you understand. I'm not hip to the man love. I agree with all the above and I hope that the conclusion that all reach in the light of such FACTS is a logical one. Keeping the faith. AND sorry to do this here. I also love the Heroes if that helps.
Dwide Shrewd by The Llama	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:30:34 AM
Nobody said the Ukraine WAS Russia.
Fact! I got the title(s) wrong by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:30:58 AM
The first book is called 'The Return' (where the Borg resurrect Kirk) and the second book is called 'Avenger' (not Avatar) (where Picard and Spock mistake each other for Borg spies and Spock is reunited with Kirk)
Re: 2.8 by JackSack	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:32:28 AM
No, sounds like 2.8 will fill us in on the events that took place AFTER the finale and before 2.1 (Four Months Later).
Exactly, JackSack... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:39:22 AM
Once that episode drops, almost all of the gaps should be filled in.
chrth by Bono Luthor	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:40:49 AM
I never read any of those although I did read that Shat pitched on of them to Paramount for the next Trek movie after Generations but they went with First Contact - thereby passing on the chance to get Kirk, Bones and Spock up on the screen one last time. Lets hope for a better resolution this time, minus dear old Bones of course...
its the show about nothing by palewook	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:42:50 AM
really
FACT! Peter Davison's returning as the Fifth Doctor by SpyGuy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:45:17 AM
Which, in my mind anyway, is much cooler news. Oh, and it's AYLA Ranzz, gawldurnit.
JackSack and Bono Luthor by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:47:04 AM
JackSack: No, I'm pretty sure that's the summary for 2.1 (the 'Second volume begins' comment is the clincher) Bono Luthor: It's been a long time since I read them, but I don't remember the books being all that good. The only cool part was the idea that Spock was ignored by the Borg because they thought he was one because of his mindmeld with V'Ger.
The Llama by Dwide Shrewd	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:51:02 AM
The synopsis said: "THE HAITIAN. Announced a trip to Russia" previously, so - Yes, someone did say that. Thanks, anyway.
Back in the USSR ... you don't know how lucky you are by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:52:26 AM
Back in the USS Back in the USS Back in the USSR
Cloverfield and Heroes... by PROF IKAMONO	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:00:56 AM
Yesterday the latest Cloverfield related website went live: www.boldfutura.jp Bold Futura is another subsidiary of the Tagruato Corporation, the parent company of Slusho. On the website I read that Bold Futura was founded by "...principles from the Tagruato Corporation, Yoshida Medical Research, and THE NAKAMURA GROUP" (emphasis mine) The implication here is staggering... was Kaito Nakamura in league with Ganu Yoshida? Will Uluru be the beast tearing up NYC on Jan. 18, 2008? If indeed JJ Abrams and Tim Kring are having a crossover with their universes... what will that mean for the "I hate Horoes" Lost fans or the "I hate Lost" Heroes fans...? ...I posted on last week's Heroes thread as soon as I saw this yesterday morning... the website has, alas, gone back down to an "under construction" notice today... But it WAS LIVE yesterday! And it DID say Nakamura Group! I swear!
Remember the Cheesy Flashback? by Judge Briggs	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:04:21 AM
Remember that way fucking cheesy flashback Monica had about New Orleans in the last episode? Gawd it reeked of cheesiness... all I could think about was the episode of tech shop with those flashbacks of the tech ed teacher's fiance flying airplanes... so cheesy wonderful in South Park... Heroes = campy stupid.
UKRAINE by SpazmoCalrissian	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:08:01 AM
odessa is in the ukraine
FACT! Spy Guy! by Bono Luthor	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:08:57 AM
Yes, isn't it in a Children In Need short? Hope it's part of new series continuity like the other one was??? No any more?
Sorry, Losties... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:19:04 AM
We've got Kristen Bell and you don't. To steer this talkback on topic, that is. :)
PROF! Only one problem with your theory by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:20:08 AM
The name of the company is Yamagato Industries, not named after Nakamura. Interestingly enough, the actress that played Hiro's sister has a last name of Nakamura. That's like Tony Danza always being a Tony on his shows.
So who else is enjoying Reaper? by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:22:56 AM
Admittedly, the show seems to follow the same formula every week, but there's enough variation to keep it interesting. And the devil is great (isn't he always?). And it doesn't hurt to have the original Candice smiling in every episode (see what I did there? I stayed on-topic!)
Who will Greg Grunberg be in STAR TREK? by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:43:38 AM
You KNOW he'll show up. He's in all of Abram's stuff. JJ calls him his "good luck charm."
Heroes is so bad that... by askholia	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:43:46 AM
No one wants to even discuss it here. And yes, that Katrina bit last episode was just terrible and in poor taste. WE FUCKING GET IT. SHE IS A VICTIM OF KATRINA. Please quit telegraphing that in huge block letters anymore Kring. You douche. As far as Belle on Heroes and not Lost. Oh, boo-hoo. She is not hot or a good actress. She looks like she was born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome!
Goddamn you, Herc, if she has electricity powers... by Horseflesh	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:52:59 AM
You are one spoil-things-in-the-title cunt.
Um by mcbear30	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:58:13 AM
The Haitian meant Odessa, TEXAS - you know, the place where HRG & Claire spent the ENTIRE first season living.
FACT! Yes, Bono Luthor, it's a CIN short... by SpyGuy	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:05:19 AM
...so it could be a prelude to "Voyage of the Damned" in the same way the previous one was for "The Christmas Invasion." The CIN short is called "Time Crash" and it's written by Steven Fucking Moffat, so it's bound to be all kinds of awesome even with 25 years taking a toll on Peter Davison. And just so the "On-Topic Gestapo" don't get their knickers twisted, does else anyone think Kaito Nakamura's killer is Caitlin the Irish Chick? The killer certainly looked female by the body build...
Yes, Elle has electricity powers by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:12:20 AM
This has been known for a looooong time. Who comes to a site like AICN and is shocked to find spoilers? That's what this whole site was based on.
Thanks mcbear30 by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:14:29 AM
I was beginning to wonder when the Haitian said he was going to Ukraine, I thought they had said Texas.
Spy guy by Bono Luthor	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:28:59 AM
Cheers. I found some pictures and the 5th Doc does not look at all bad in the old costume considering the years in between. I agree Moffat writing is very cool indeed. Hope it's longer than 10 mins. Just to stay on topic, I love Chris Ecclestone (Oooh - see what I did there?) in Heroes. Here in the UK me and Mrs Bono are watching on BBC2 and think he has brought some much needed humour into it. Hiro not withstanding. We are really enjoying it but I'm a little nervous about that season finale that I have heard is so crap?Q?Q?Q?Q?Q?
MOLLY. Identified Matt’s dad as Nightmareman... by Cletus Van Damme	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:42:44 AM
...if you'll notice, she never came out and said that. The camera shot showed him, a woman (obviously not a nightmare man), and Company Bob. It seems the Nightmare Man could be either Parkman's dad or Company Bob.
Rey Mysterio by CuervoJones	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:54:41 AM
The real hero of Heroes
RE: There should be a costumed "Hero!" by GCH888	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:54:49 AM
Thanks 'thevision' for expressing my sentiments in a much more articulated fashion.
Dwide Shrewd by The Llama	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:56:13 AM
Sorry. Not when I read it. I suppose Herc must have edited the page.
Lost = the Beatles, Heroes= Rolling Stones by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:11:21 AM

Lost = Nirvana, Heroes = Pearl Jam by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:12:14 AM

Now can we get a Cloverfield talkback? by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:14:39 AM
Based on Prof. Ikamono's exceptional detective work?
Oh Wait!!!!...Elle!!!....ELLE-ctric ity!...BWAHAHAHA by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:21:27 AM
haha?...seriously guys that is kinda lame.
no wait... by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:22:32 AM
it is lame.
Storm does more than lightning by Dreadlock Holmes	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:23:41 AM
Idiot.
But really folks.... by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:24:46 AM
I said this at the end of last weeks TB, but if tonights episode fails to deliver, I don't think it's fair to put the blame on little Ms. Bell. The Heroes writers can't write for women worth crap, and as good as Bell is....well...I guess we'll see. I remain hopeful, but with realistic expectations.
Hate to be argumentative... by Dreadlock Holmes	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:25:08 AM
But why is it a bad thing to remember Hurricane Katrina? We are not supposed to forget 9/11 so why that?
And has THIS been brought up? by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:29:03 AM
I know some folks brought up mind control last week and it's the same thing I was thinking as well while watching the last episode. But let's take it one step further. Perhaps the "marks" or homing chips put on many of the power afflicted folk aren't just some tracking system, but possibly a way to control the newly super powered masses....and now one of the old guard in the company wants control. Think about it...West killed Nakamura and then flew off and Claude attacked Ma Patrelli.
Yikes! by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:29:48 AM
OR...what if we have ANOTHER empath on our hands with a shit load of powers!
Seriously.... by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:31:02 AM
theorizing and talking about what COULD be is a hell of a lot more fun than watching it. After spending time on the last few TB's it's obvious the lot of you have a grander imagination than Kring and crew.
Kristin Bell electrifies my balls with her mouth! by Penetron	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:37:53 AM
I've got pictures! She was good. But Mac was even better. There's no love like nerd love!
Quinto as Spock... by American Mythos	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:37:55 AM
since this relates to Sylar, I did a quick mock-up in the photoshop. It's not not too good, but not to shabby either. http://i89.photobucket.com/alb ums/k204/americanmythos/spock2 .jpg PS - anyone know where to find other photoshopped picks of Quinto-Spock?
Get out of hear Trekkie scum! by Dreadlock Holmes	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:40:31 AM
Go get your own talkback and quit hijacking this one!
Dreadlock Holmes by askholia	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:45:16 AM
Its not that we should forget these events. Its more that we should not turn them into madulin babbles we use when a writer cant think of better motivation or a way to tug at the audiences heart strings. Its like in the show "Drive" on Fox when they kept mentioning over and over again that it was an illegal cross country road race. We got it the first time. In reality, what these writers are doing is removing all efficacy of the event by making it a fetish in the show. Thats just bad writing.
Ashholia by Dreadlock Holmes	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:55:53 AM
Okay, i definitely agree with that. Thanks for weighing in.
Lost=awesome - Heroes=shite by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:17:18 AM
Lost drifted a bit in it's second and early third season, but it was always good and really redeemed itself by the season finale. Heroes started off decent, but this horrible second season is losing viewers at a phenomenal rate. They'd better do something FAST. and yeah, I'm watching the next few weeks for Kristen Bell, but I don't expect her talent to be able to breathe new life into this any more than Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson could overcome the dialogue of George Lucas.
Catrina by INWOsuxRED	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:27:40 AM
is bad for the administration, so the right-wing bloggers have to dis anything that suggests it happened.
Any chance Eccleston returns? by INWOsuxRED	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:33:08 AM
I still think he is the most logical "killer", but it doesn't seem like he is coming back.
Lost = Jordan, Heroes = Kobe by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:33:40 AM

Lost = TNG, Heroes = DS9 by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:35:11 AM

Kristin Bell by Philvis	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:35:59 AM
What is so special about this girl that has everyone drooling. Sorry, but I don't see it.
Flying to Philly by RenoNevada2000	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:47:59 AM
If Matt is flying to Philadelphia, it has to be with Nathan. (Cuz he can fly, oh those tricky TV Guide writers with their clever clues in the epiosde descriptions) Mainly because, its a two hour trip by car/train, so taking an actual commercial flight would be a stupid waste of cash.
analogies by tha plow	Oct 22nd, 2007 11:56:33 AM
lost=doogie houser, heroes=corky from life goes on
Really, really, really wish... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:02:13 PM
that she had taken the Lost offer. I think it's the better written show, and from an entirely male perspective, they probably would have gotten her in a bikini. And yeah, 2.8 seems a little redundant. Obviously it will fill in details, but we have a lot of the questions answered already. It's not like by the end of 2.1 anyone was like, "Wait!? Claire is in a new house, but there was no scene with a moving truck, what the fuck is going on!!"
FACT! Reading FACT! besides something inane by Yeti	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:18:32 PM
is really irritating.
Lost = Raiders of The Lost Ark... by OBSD	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:18:42 PM
Heroes = King Solomon's Mines. And that's quite a turnaround from last year, when Lost was meandering around in a Polar Bear cage for 8 episodes & Heroes was kicking ass & taking names. Oh, how the tables have turned.
Philvis re: bell by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:19:17 PM
i always thought she was cute, but didnt see why people drooled over her. then i watched Veronica Mars. I think its her personality and talent. it really makes her all the MORE attractive. Now, i am a slave to her lovin'
"MICAH. Stole cable." by smackfu	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:20:54 PM
Spoiler: On tonights episode of Heroes, Micah helps his grandmother avoid paying her Sprint bill...
monica = taskmaster, peter = sync by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:25:00 PM

Lost = Bioshock by OBSD	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:25:26 PM
Heroes = Shaq-fu. This is fun!
niki = sentry/hulk, bro and sis = m/plate by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:27:12 PM
generation x
heroes = beatles, lost = the monkeys by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:28:46 PM
q/ Liam Gallagher
"MICAH. Stole cable." by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:30:43 PM
so thats why cable and deadpool are separated.
lost = heroes, heroes = classic comicbook arcs by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:32:41 PM
lost = heroes, heroes = classic comicbook arcs like days of future past.
Lost = 1997 Britney. by OBSD	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:34:38 PM
Heroes = 2007 Britney.
nightmare man by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:35:31 PM
thought it'd be molly herself, like in astonishing x men #1, the first two pages are about a little girl whose nightmares kill people.
Lost = X-Files Seasons 7-9; Heroes = Lost Season 2 by SpyGuy	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:38:26 PM

will hiro do the nasty in da past-y? by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:38:51 PM
and be his own great great grand-father?
= , = by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:41:42 PM
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Lost = 1x04 'Walkabout'; Heroes = 1x17 'Company Man by Chilli815	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:42:00 PM
If you want to compare them, compare the best episodes. Now Lost 1x04 has a tremendous twist which puts everything into perspective, but Heroes 1x17 pays off 17 episodes of the excellent Claire/Noah relationship superbly. I think 1x04 has more of a 'fuck you, THIS is what we're capable of' impact, but 1x17 has more emotion built up. I'd say the best eps are tied.
59009 = boobs, 5319009 = boobies. by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:42:57 PM

Merlox-Yes, there is another empath by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:43:08 PM
Claude alluded to another empath last season. "Not another one of those!" So did Simones dad when he was talking to Peter in dream world, "There is always a good one, Peter."
eating JFK's corpse = not cool. by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:45:02 PM

"=" = "equals" by ironic_name	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:47:46 PM

But skullfucking JFK's bullet wound = AWESOME! by OBSD	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:47:51 PM

Nope, Ando has a TM on the power of !AWESOME! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:51:54 PM
Please pay attention. ;)
"mysterious virus striking people" by zooch	Oct 22nd, 2007 12:59:52 PM
"learn first-hand just how deadly the mysterious virus striking people with abilities can be" They striking people with the virus?
I sense a major "ICK" factor coming for the cheerleader by faelon	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:03:26 PM
Does anyone else see one of the storylines heading down a path where network TV just normally chooses not to go? I mean am I wrong in getting the impression that the annoying flyboy that is currently seducing Claire is in fact her own brother? The third son of Nathan seen in a picture last episode? Add to this the equally strong possibility of Hiro pulling a "Fry" and becoming his own ancestor and we are hitting new levels of underlying "ick" factor.
Ororo... by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:09:22 PM
yeah I know there's been other empaths....that's obvious if you've watched the show...the question being are they bringing ANOTHER over powered "hero" in that needs to be taken down a few notches power wise. Either way, mind control or empath "Hero" I guess we'll see...I think the Empath murderer is the most logical suspect at this point...
K-Bell = Quinton Jackson. E-Lilly: Chuck Liddell by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:10:15 PM
See UFC 71 for who won that, as well as this comparison. :)
Katrina by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:12:02 PM
I live on the Gulf Coast and have no problem with a character in New Orleans facing the problems so many are still facing here. What makes it cool is that she has “powers”. It dates the show, but it also makes it more realistic. At least it does for me. So far, it has been handled tastefully. BTW, I've noticed how aicn still runs ads up top to help. Thanks guys!
BUT WHO WILL HAVE THE POWER OF !BEARD! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:18:10 PM
Now that Nathan has shed his facial hair??
Third summers...I mean Petrelli kid? by Alexanderx	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:23:23 PM
When did that happen??
Violent JFK references = by Bono Luthor	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:23:48 PM
savages who are not even human and belong in the personal hell that they have already created for themselves.
Remember when Hercules used to... by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:24:48 PM
Actually review the show before it aired? I never missed the Buffy reviews in this column. Are the networks stingy with screener copies for reviews? Excited about Bell tonight. I'm hoping that all of the acting credibility that Kristen Bell has earned with Veronica Mars doesn't take a nosedive tonight with her appearance on Heroes. I'm hoping she gives the show the kick in the ass that it needs right now.
Well, that didn't take long did it? CBS axing Viva L.? by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:25:22 PM
And replacing with Amazing Race? 1.2 rating in 18-49 demo pretty much spells its doom: http://tinyurl.com/3xw2zq
Bell was on the Kevin & Dean radio show today in SD... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:27:33 PM
Podcast isn't up yet, unfortunately. Kevin Smith was on there Friday deciding who was hotter - her or Hayden Panettiere (who's reportedly dating Milo Ventimiglia, I heard).
All the storylines will connect by zooch	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:27:49 PM
Isn't that obvious? or do we need some plot device like last season telling everyone that it is?
"I would love to see (Sylar) and Elle face off one day. I think by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:31:17 PM
A clue from KB, maybe as to who puts Sylar on the DL next month??
"I think that would be unbelievable," by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:34:09 PM
That was part of Bell's quote during her media teleconference call last Tuesday which was cut off in the prior subject heading.
Lost = Lexus ES 300 / Heroes = Toyota Camry by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:34:35 PM
Fuck it, I thought I'd play too.
Lost = Roger Federer, Heroes = Rafael Nadal by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:35:36 PM

Read the EW review!!!!!!!!!!!! by NoPIX	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:36:09 PM
IT's accurate people, I'm sorry but it's true. I'll admit it's kind of fun when you LOST haters get a taste of your own medicine.
Lost = Kim Kardashians Ass / Heroes = Paris Hilton's Ass Flaps by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:36:28 PM
This is stupid yet fun.
Heh. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:36:54 PM
Not in the French Open though, commiepinko. :D
Lost = Empire, Heroes = Jedi by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:37:03 PM

Pennsy: French Open Lost= Nadal, Heroes=Federer by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:39:19 PM

This show lost me by jimmy_009	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:39:41 PM
The lame series finale showed it for what it was... an OK show with average writing and acting. There's too many story threads and none of them worth caring about. I agree about the costumed hero, it needs to be introduced. A friend and I were discussing that last season. It would be a natural progression of the show and would freshen things up. This behind the scense conspiracy stuff isn't much fun anymore.
Nope, no switching allowed, commiepinko! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:40:07 PM
;)
Heroes = Now, Lost = January by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:43:03 PM
'nuff said
Lost = Washington, Heroes = Lincoln by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:43:24 PM

NoPIX is right.... by Merlox	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:44:50 PM
it's a good and fair review. I'm definitely a bigger Lost fan than Heroes but that doesn't ean I don't want it to be good. It has a lot to work on at the moment though and I dunno if this first "arc" is really going to be able to come out on top.
Lost = Buffy / Heroes = Dark Angel by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:45:50 PM

Lost = John Bonham, Heroes = Dave Grohl by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:47:22 PM

Lost = Cameron / Heroes = McG by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:47:30 PM

Lost = Carpenter / Heroes = Craven by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:49:56 PM
Wait, they both have levels of suck to them. But Craven sucks more.
Lost = Nissan Versa, Heroes = Nissan Rogue by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:51:01 PM

Dark Angel had Jessica Alba. Therefore it did not suck. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:51:29 PM

KRISTEN BELL is way over rated. by warp11	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:52:46 PM
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Who is still watching "Bionic Woman"? by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:53:36 PM
Because I had to give up on that bullshit. NBC fucked up big time. The lead chick may have been good on her soap opera in the UK, but here she exudes zero charisma. And you can also tell that the show is filmed in Canada. It just looks so fucking dreary/generic. Like anything on the Sci-Fi channel. (Save for Battlestar because I can't say anything about BG because I have never seen an episode of the show.)
OK, now you've done it, warp11! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:54:28 PM
makes you watch Viva Laughlin 24-7 :)
Jessica Alba by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:55:40 PM
Is a cutie, but to be honest she looks like any girl around my way. You give any of the Latina's on my block Jessica Alba's salary and they would look just as hot as her. Nothing really special about her looks. PS, she can't act for shit.
I gave up on it, Mr. Profit, but NBC ordered 3 more scripts... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:55:54 PM
Maybe after all the upheaval is over with, the show will right itself. But I won't hold my breath.
Dear NBC: Please have Bell do the video commentary by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 01:58:28 PM
On your Heroes' website. It would be her first episode commentary ever. Damn the CW for not paying its actors to do audio commentaries on its DVD's. :\|
I dunno.... by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:00:24 PM
It's odd to me that there are many good writers out there (especially genre writers) and it seems that "Heroes" and "Bionic Woman" doesn't have any of them on staff. They should let the AICN Talkback collectively write an episode of "Bionic Woman". Then again scratch that because there would be too many suggestions for Sackhoff diving into Ryan's muff that we wouldn't be taken seriously.
The hotness - and sweetness - of K-Bell: by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:03:13 PM
In a PSA (youtube): http://tinyurl.com/2qy578. YOWZA.
Lost = Mini-Golf, Heroes = Bowling by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:08:40 PM

Lost = Mr. Muggles, Heroes= Mr. Muggles' Standin by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:14:03 PM

Lost = 1996-2000 Yankees / Heroes = 2001-2007 Yankees by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:16:11 PM

Lost = this TB, Heroes = Daily Planet TB by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:18:38 PM

Lost = Farley / Heroes = Sanz by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:18:58 PM

Is it just me, or have Lost fans gone insane? by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:20:05 PM
Have y'all already forgotten about your constant whinings during the 2nd and 3rd seasons? One strong finale and all of sudden everything that went wrong is forgotten?
Lost = my addiction to writing these by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:24:48 PM

Heroes = my inability to stop by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:25:01 PM

Lost = my Brain, Heroes = my Brain on Drugs by commiepinko	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:31:44 PM

commiepinko: word of warning by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:36:14 PM
TPTB have banned accounts that do what you're doing if you do it too much.
Chrth, we have Kristen Bell on our team. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:38:18 PM
Well, not 'we' in the literal sense, but you get what I'm sayin. They can never have KB; they had their shot, but what's done is done. :)
chrth re: Lost by Bloo	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:38:27 PM
it wasn't just the finale it was a strong buildup from Feb. to the finale that brought LOST back. plus there were some really good shows in the 2nd season. However I think all the complaining about the Niassen rouge commericals within the show is almost as bad as different LOST actors reading this "manuscript" that was all promotion for the BAD Lost tie-in novel Bad Twin
Lost=Orson Welles by Bloo	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:46:05 PM
in Citizen Kane Heros=Orson Welles in Touch of Evil Journeyman=Orson Welles in The Muppet Movie Bionac Woman=Orson Welles in Transformers:The Movie
chrth by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:52:13 PM
Exactly. I watch Lost and I freely admit that the second season was a stinker over all. There were highlights, but it mostly stank. Things started getting back on track last season, but with only 14 episodes a season... I'm probably giving up on it. They are stretching it out for 3 years when it could be over in 2.
Damn you Wonka! by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:54:19 PM
I actually think I may have argued with Wonka at the beginning of Lost season 2... I thought it was still great, and had the potential for greatness. He called it a stinker and he was right. I damn him for being right!
ororo giving up LOST? by Bloo	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:01:13 PM
for shame for shame. I agree the short season format sucks but is it really any different then The Shield or Nip/Tuck or Mad Men or any cable TV series. And hey at least it's not the Soprano's which would have like a 6 episode season on HBO
I'm just going to go ahead and say it..... by TiPPiDa	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:07:48 PM
I LOVE BOTH LOST AND HEROES..... Much like I love Elvis AND the Beatles, or Coke AND Pepsi.. But FUCK ME if this doesn't pick up with Heroes, its going to be a long wait to see delicious Kate next year.
Shorter seasons mean... by MisterE	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:11:31 PM
Shorter seasons mean that you HOPE that there's no filler.
Yeah... by Red Ned Lynch	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:12:06 PM
...always strikes me as funny that you get these strange little camps. This second season of Heroes hasn't been very engaging so far. But then the second season of Lost was largely an exercise in futility. Hope Bell helps pump a little life into the show tonight.
Bloo by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:15:07 PM
Probably not... my friends won't let me. Lost night is a big deal round these parts. ;) If everyone else around here is irritated by the shortened season then probably yes.
Who needs Kate when you have Veronica?! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:19:13 PM
Hmph. :)
Call me my bland mainstream public by richier123	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:20:50 PM
but I liked all three seasons of Lost. The first 1/4 of the 3rd season was kinda lame though. But otherwise I've liked everything. The only thing that gets on my nerves is how prominent smokey was in the first season, and now he is relegated to 2 episodes a season.
There's so much crap on tv by zooch	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:22:33 PM
Do we really need to waste our time comparing Lost to Heroes? or constantly criticizing every misstep every chance we get? I love them both.
bell is ugly as hell by SpazmoCalrissian	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:31:03 PM
only nerds who like her shit show think shes fit
Zooch - spaz by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:34:57 PM
zooch - good point. spazmo - ouch, I've been told Bell and I look similar.
Lost Season 2 by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:39:37 PM
Was weak because the overall scheduling by ABC was awful. 3 new episodes 2 repeats then 1 new episode 3 repeats. It was fucking annoying and it didn't keep my interest. Season 2 also wasn't a very strong season and I STILL havent seen every episode. But the finale was so fucking odd that I had to return for season 3. The first half of Lost season 3 was ridiculously boring to me. I almost gave up on the show but the marketing of the remaining episodes being a non stop season drew me back in. All of those episodes were really fucking entertaining (minus Jack's tatoo episode). The finale was great (glad I avoided spoilers) And going back I realized that Lost is a really well done show. I knew it initially, but when I watched other TV shows, you can see the difference. The production values on Lost beat out most network fare. And the acting (even if the mysteries may piss me off sometimes) is always great. So now I'm back full time. And I really hope that they learned their lesson in fan backlash and really fire on all cylinders with these 16 back to back episodes in February. And I hope they give the show a new fucking timeslot. They should move it to Thursday at 10 following "Grey's Anatomy". That way it has a proper lead in and virtually no competition. Who is scared of "ER"?
Bell is not drop dead gorgeous, or hot.... by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:48:48 PM
But she is just a cute down to earth girl with a good sense of humor. She has talent as an actress. She is smart, dresses well, and again is funny. The reason guys like her and she has a large male fanbase is because she is basically perfect girlfriend material. Bell seems like a girl who can hang out with you at a bar and drink beer with you and not be a snotty bitch who is wanting to hit up a hotter club in a selfish effort to show off her new Louboutin shoes she bought with her stripper earnings. She is basically a girl who's perfect personality amplifies her already decent looks to make her desirable. Hope that explains her appeal to the people who seem to be confused.
this better be super awesome episode tonight by cromulent	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:54:22 PM
OR ELSE! ok I'll keep watching. blah
But on 10PM Wednesday.... by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 03:57:01 PM
The show is up against Criminal Minds and for some reason the geezers at CBS power all of their shows about cops and detectives to ratings victory. Grey's may seem soapy and have a different audience than Lost, but Lost is probably the most unique show on ABC's schedule. There is really nothing you can pair it with. If it stays on Wednesday, it will be on right after the vagina hour of Private Practice. And if you think Grey's is soapy, Private Practice is like a Lifetime show that snuck onto ABC's schedule. Also I caught all the crucial episodes of season 2, but I missed maybe like 3 or 4 episodes. The other's just didn't interest me once I found out they were regular people. But I read recaps of shit I missed in season 2. I know it isn't the same, but Season 2 is on my Christmas list. So I will catch up soon.
That's good to hear, Ororo by Bloo	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:01:35 PM
Lost season 4 is going to either be brillent or a mistake, I can't imagine a "season 2" with season 4. Season 2 wasn't horriable, the marketing was and as a late Lost fan via catching up over that summer and thanks to Their own catchup episodes I was able to get into season 2 but not without work and ABC's wonky scheduling didn't help. I recently watched it on dvd and it's good but not great but the Bad Twin marketing attempts SUCKED
katrina by Mazzke	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:02:51 PM
These shows keep mentioning the obvious ad nauseum b/c the networks executives are greedy and shortsighted. The only thing that is important to them is INCREASING the viewing audience, to show how great they are at their jobs. So, they repeat the obvious over and over so that new watchers, people who join after spending the first 30 min watching a sitcom and people who are flipping channels will quickly know what's going on. To the executives, orienting new people and getting them on board is far more important than lowering the quality of the story/dialogue. It's also the same reason why every episode of ER has to be "a very special, unforgettable episode", which leads to one ridiculous story line after another, very much unlike the high-quality initial seasons. Unfortunately, these executives are too short-sighted to see that all these compromises dilute quality and value of their IP and cost them in the long-run. Speaking of which, one thing that bothers me this season is how the tagline is "Somebody is hunting the heroes one by one. And it's one of them!" I know it's hard to come up with a credible villain/conflict for people with superpowers, but do they have to make it so obvious that this season's story arc is EXACTLY the same as last season's? It's insulting that they don't think we'll notice that.
Hey, Criminal Minds is getting Fat Tony! by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:03:30 PM
Don't knock it, or they will advance on you!
LOST= giving your opinion first/ HEROES= agreeing with an opinon by soup74	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:05:07 PM
everything i'm add has already been said somwhere, but im gonna say it again anyway. as someone who gets excited for each new episode of both lost and heroes (it is possible to enjoy them both) if i had to only pick one to watch it would have to be lost. i disagree about lost season 2 being bad.. i really enjoyed picking up all the clues and craziness in season 2. (like the first time the blast door came down and we saw the map, i, like every other obsessed fan, was on the internet for days after picking apart everything on there.. that was fun) i do agree that lost stumbled a bit with the first story arc of season 3, but then they made up for it with the rest of the season. heroes, on the other hand was an interesting concept that started off slow.. then the first season picked up, and i found myself really enjoying it.. until the let down of a finale. but i was still on board for season 2. the writers promised they learned from their mistakes. unfortunately it doesnt seem like they have. nothing has happened yet this season. now im not gonna give up on it yet. im just crossing my fingers that we're in 'lost season 3' territory, and heroes picks up enough that i forget the first few boring episodes ever happened.
BTW, I'm home from work for the next 11 weeks by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:08:26 PM
Feel free to be super-jealous. Hee hee.
Sorry Chrth... by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:09:39 PM
Only thing I watch over on the geritol network is How I Met Your Mother. I never watched Criminal Minds, but any show that would add Mantegna to the cast should be good right? But I never gave that show a chance because I figured it can't be different from Numbers, NCIS, CSI 1 2 and 3, or any other cop/detective/wrap up story in one episode show CBS has.. The only procedural I still watch and enjoy is SVU.
I actually don't watch Criminal Minds ... by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:10:32 PM
my wife does, so sometimes I catch it. But dude, you got to watch Numb3rs. Best procedural on the air.
Again, what's this "Lost" show? by biggles2_22	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:15:03 PM
You TB'ers keep bringing it up. Where can I find it? What network? What's it about? Just curious.
Mr. Profit, You Know How I Know Your Gay? by biggles2_22	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:19:40 PM
You watch How I Met Your Mother for Doogie.
Honestly, what is going on with Bell and Quinto... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:23:24 PM
There is an absurd amount of footage of them together on Youtube, and it seems like the defining push in her choosing Heroes over Lost may have been Quinto's presence. Is he actually gay, or is that just something that's been said on the talkbacks to insult him or something. I know she's in a relationship too, but it's ridiculous how much footage of them, with romantic music playing over it is popping up all over the place. Also, How I Met Your Mother is a very good comedy.
biggles by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:24:27 PM
It's Lost so you can't find it... on ABC... google it or look on abc.com or imdb.com The first season rocked our socks off. The second was kind of flat. The third started flat and BAM rocked our frickin' socks off again.
Daniel by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:26:51 PM
They've been friends for 10 years and have the same agent. You may also notice that all of the people from Heroes hang out all the time. They are like one big happy family... with the exception of Larter who has people killed off the show for stealing her thunder. witch
Honestly... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:27:25 PM
I've always only "kind of" enjoyed Heroes, and have been on the cusp of abandoning it, but then "Company Man" aired, and I stuck with it, with hopes that some equivalency will happen again. I've consistently enjoyed and been wowed by Lost though. That's not to say Lost is better, and I can see why Heroes is so appealing and fun for a lot of people, I'm just saying I think Lost is the much better show. It's stupid that they're even being compared. It's not like this is the first time two arc-based, immersive, mysterious shows have aired at the same time. There's been plenty.
Munroe, thanks for the clarification... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:28:57 PM
That makes a lot of sense.
Fixed: Lost=DS9 Heroes=Voyager by Wed Vid Guy	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:33:25 PM
And Journeyman is way better than Heroes at this point
Lost = Andrea Roth, Heroes = Kristen Bell by Ashok0	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:37:14 PM
Well, at least that one is true.
LOST S2 = Underrated by Ashok0	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:39:08 PM
Def. the weakest of the 3... but it was still better than Heroes S2 or any season of 24. It was bad... only by LOST standards.
A statement: Kevin Mann is a doofus... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:42:42 PM
The director of 50 Pills, that is. WTF are you thinkin' dude? http://tinyurl.com/2mmgwj
Lost = "Father Will Kill the Son", Heroes = "You're wearing my s by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:44:30 PM
I REALLY hope someone is aware of the two shows being referenced in these pivotal quotes.
Did not see that coming. by Napoleon Park	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:45:37 PM
I'm sure everyone wants to talk about Veronica Mars appearing on tonights show. (I'd be excited too if it was Karen Sisco instead. but the news I'm geeked about was in the Dana Davis interview in the TV Guide Scoop newsletter. The new Hero dropped some details from unproduced scripts from her previous series "The Nine", including her own near-rape and the major revelation that her dad was the inside man and planned the robbery. Wow. I have enjoyed Chi MCBrides work as everything from Principal Stever Harper (Boston Public) to Detective Emerson Cod (Pushing Daisies). His act as the uptight bank manager and concerned parent had the wool over my eyes - he was the bad guy? Awesome! I don't suppose there were many "the Nine" fans here - or at all, really - but while it slowed down from it's theatrical quality premiere it still had an intricate and steadily unfolding plot and deeply developed characters. I have often mentioned that I'd love to see the creators and writers of this series finish the story with a novelization, and these new revelations only whet my appetite for such a work. A show with a steadily moving plot, tight continuity and deeply rounded characters... you decide what that has to do with Heroes.
..."You're wearing my shirt, Gordon." by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:45:37 PM
Just to clarify the above post.
I'd like to know what they think of fan reaction by Drath	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:52:27 PM
Do they think we're all just ungrateful bitches, or do they think we'll come around when we see episode X, or do they think they need to make changes? Are they learning from this or do they just think they can do whatever? I'm really sorry the show has become so stagnant. That reviewer is right, the pacing has died, nothing interesting is happening. A whole episode with no Hiro or Peter is a huge slap in the face this early in the season. If they're gonna do that then they should have whole episodes that focus on just them (and that episode had leave them in a different place than where it found them and I don't mean just geography). I don't think it helps that last season did end with a very satisfying climax anyway, so this season feels like build up for another let down.
Napoleon Park... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:53:49 PM
It's always nice when fans of a cancelled show get some sort of closure. I'm still waiting to find out what was supposed to happen to Paul Callen from "Miracles" after that superb gamechanging episode "Hand of God."
But if they stick with the real world by Napoleon Park	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:55:38 PM
and keep the show reality-grounded as in "What would really happen if...", then a comics geek will develop a power, get a costume, fight crime for about a week and get slaughtered. They might try going with the original premise of Mike Barons "Badger": "You'd have to be crazy to put on a costume and fight crime. He is. The Badger isn't a super-hero, he just thinks he is." Not that i didn;t enjoy the more conventional direction Badger evolved in during its first Comics run, but that original premise really had a lot of unexplored potential.
I also enjoyed when... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 04:56:50 PM
all the "heroes" teamed up, albeit briefly to fight Sylar in the finale, yet the fight itself was underwhelming. You'd think that after an entire season of these characters being more or less alone, they'd be together NOW, but they've just gone back to their positions in season one, with the occasional team having been forged (Parkman and Mohinder, Mohinder and HRG)
Sports Night for the second quote, Daniel... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:04:02 PM
Stumped on the first, tho.
'Angel' for the first quote? by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:16:38 PM
Him and Connor?
Since I don't consider Gossip Girl worth my time... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:18:02 PM
I consider this episode as Bell's official return to network prime time TV.
I think Hero's has it's appeal by Bloo	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:21:24 PM
because it is, for the most part, easy to follow, you can pretty much dive in with little effort and know what's going on. LOST on the other hand, unless you're willing to drop 120 bucks on the first two seasons right now and another 60 when season 3 hits in December will lose you quickly. I do enjoy having both genre shows on the air though and I do enjoy them both.
Is there a place to talk about heroes... by Executor	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:39:01 PM
...where the douchebags don't show up? It's like being at a cool party or bar and then a bunch of asshole frat boys show up being loud and obnoxious and they think that just because they are causing a commotion they are popular, but in fact, everyone is just laughing at them.
Only one person can save Heroes and its... by BillyPilgrim	Oct 22nd, 2007 05:55:43 PM
THE GREAT AND POWERFUL TURTLE!!!
Fish biscuits, people by Napoleon Park	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:04:19 PM
Two people mentioned thinking that Lost season three "got off to a slow start' with the 8 episode partial season before the hiatus. I can only saw dumfoundedly "Kate in a bear cage!" Kate and Sawyer doing the dead - in public - in a cage! - while being taped by monitor cameras - with Jack watching! How do people NOT love twisted stuff like that? What are you, NOT perverts?
The Great and Powerful Turtle? by Pops Freshemeyer	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:05:59 PM
Does Heroes have enough money in the budget to buy a VW, or would he fly around in Claire's car that was stolen?
Pennsy speaks the TRUTH... by chromedome	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:08:09 PM
"Dark Angel had Jessica Alba. Therefore it did not suck." It also may have been her best work, but that is another topic....
Pops, The Turtle stole Claire's car by BillyPilgrim	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:26:06 PM
He was honking the horn and flashing the lights while flying low over rush hour traffic. But nobody EVER looks up on Heroes. Thats why nobody sees two kids flying around in broad daylight.
How I Met Your Mother is Gay? by Mr. Profit	Oct 22nd, 2007 06:46:26 PM
I didn't know Doogie was gay until the 2nd season. The show is funny and should be on a network like NBC. It seems CBS doesn't realy care for the show. You can't knock the show. It's one of the best traditional format sitcoms on the air right now. And if we were to follow your logic, is everyone who liked Harry Potter gay too because Dumbledore enjoys the company of dude wizards? What about LOTR? Isn't Gandalf into guys too? And the KBell-Quinto love rumors are silly. Sillier are the Sylar is gay bull crap. Just because he was gay on Tori Spellings VH1 show doesn't mean he's gay in real life.
Lost Second Season = Sucked a Wet Dog's Ass; Heroes Second Seaso by Colegegraduit	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:04:48 PM
So, to hear fanboy spin control: Lost “never” strayed off course. Huh?!? Lost’s WHOLE second season was about a stupid computer and some stupid numbers that have to be typed so a stupid electromagnet thingie doesn’t activate, just because some total retard didn’t install a stupid OFF switch and label it: “The Stupid Off Switch for the Stupid Electromagnet Thingie.” That, in a nutshell, was Lost’s ENTIRE second season. If you disagree; you'd better have some ACTUAL good moments to list and not just fanboy minutiae. Yeah, I know; “Neener neener Heroes' second season sucks too.” Yeah, well; the season’s JUST STARTED. By this point even I was saying in the talkbacks that Lost’s second season didn’t suck. Man; Was…I…Wrong! I feel better confessing it. You will too. If you want to flame Heroes at the same time; whatever rocks your world, dude. Some people prefer stories inspired by imaginative comic book whimsy. Others are entertained by a beach. It’s just a matter of taste.
Word, Mr. Profit re: HIMYM... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:05:32 PM
waits for the episode where Doogie Barney unveils his psychic ability while he was with the Games and Theory unit of the Federal Service to impress Robin
I SCOFF AT THE TURTLE! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:06:52 PM
And then I'll get a message to ElleBell to push it aside. For keeps!
Lost: Cobain Heroes: Love by NotFunny	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:12:26 PM
Yeah...
Stop the HATE!!! by Alexanderx	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:20:55 PM
Heroes has hit a little bit of a low. Every series goes through it. It happened with X-files, LOST sucked a BIG fat one for a while there. The list goes on and on. I think that the show will pick back up.
HERC, IS SHATNER IN STAR TREK XI YES OR NO? by DARTH VOODOO	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:21:04 PM
Herc,a few days back you hinted that you had information that William Shatner would be in ST XI. You mentioned something along the lines of that all the talk of Shatner not being in the film was "a lie" You also said that you know more about the film than most + Shatner would return as older Kirk. Don't leave us hanging. Is this true? Do you have information about Shatner returning as Kirk or is it mere speculation on your part?
Shat said himself that he wasn't in XI by polyh3dron	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:26:13 PM
He was on the Kevin & Bean show on KROQ and said that JJ called him to let him know that there wouldn't be a part for him in the new film.
HEROES = MY ASS by papermonkey	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:26:23 PM
Why doesn't anybody ever use their damn powers in this show? It's freaking boring.
Just decided to pay the Lost TB a visit... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:28:44 PM
;) I mean, it's only fair after all the ='s of today, yes?
Thoughts on Sylar by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:46:40 PM
-Well of course Sylar is braining people in the head. It's what he does when he's not popping their top; he did it to Telekinetic CSI Guy too. -I wonder if the registration is still in the Rogue -If he takes Maya's power, will he try to control it ... or will he just let it run wild? Is Maya unable to control it because of the power itself, or because she's not strong enough?
Dreadlock Holmes... by American Mythos	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:51:21 PM
You're a moron. I like Heroes more than I do Trek, and the only reason I'm interested in this new movie is because Quinto is in it. So juggle my testicles.
10 minutes, guys... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:51:34 PM
Let's all hope the corner is turned for the better.
Right on Pennsy by jimbojones123	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:53:37 PM
Soon to be followed by - HEROES SUCKS by some talbacker that has no doubt made 3x the money as the Heroes producers have with their genius ideas! Oh no, wait, they are critical and drinking the same Code Red and eating the same Tinkies that I am right now. My chip is just a little smaller.
Ashok0 by jimbojones123	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:57:20 PM
I'm actually a HUGE fan of Lost Season 2. Thought Season 1 dragged on pointlessly much more. How many times are they going to have the love triangle kiss and make up? I think the show gets better and better each year. And for those who say nothing happens anymore -- how long til they found fresh water? How about trying to set up the radio?
August 19. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:58:27 PM
That was when we all heard Kristen Bell signed up for Heroes. Whatever happens tonight, it's great to welcome her back. I think almost every VM fan has waited 2 months for this night. Enjoy.
chrth by jimbojones123	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:59:01 PM
Would it work without the brother character? Will Peter end up with one of the siblings and Syler the other?
Did Peter get his "Static Shock" from by jimbojones123	Oct 22nd, 2007 07:59:58 PM
Veronica Mars? Do they already know eachother from the 4 months? Had they been working together before his memory was wiped?
And since Wonka has been damned already, 3 words, then: by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:00:00 PM
Here we go...
ok...here we go by mcordy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:00:40 PM
please let it be better than the first 3-4
FACT: by punto	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:02:08 PM
Mission: Impossible 3 played like a bad episode of Alias. And we all know Alias had some BAD episodes.
Pennsy by jimbojones123	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:02:38 PM
I also believe that those not in the VM cult (also those still shaking their heads at the whole Buffy thing) could give a crap and still wonder how they can promote somebody so pointless.
9:05PM. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:05:28 PM
YEAH!
YEAH, baby, heh heh, YEAH! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:06:49 PM
Austin Powers moment there. :D
electric bell by WolfmanNards	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:07:07 PM
thats where peter got his electric blast
"I can take care of myself." by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:07:58 PM
And just the right pout. Welcome aboard, Kristen...
To those who keep thinking Heroes is losing viewers by History101	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:08:41 PM
Week 2 6.6/10. "Heroes" Week 3 Heroes 6.4/9. Week 4 Heroes" 6.8/10 Will update tonights on Tuesday
Why is Kristen Bell a great actress again? by TallBoy66	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:09:49 PM
I never saw Veronica Mars so this is me busting my cheery. She had exactly 30 seconds to wow me. She didn't. OVERRATED!! NEXT!!!
She's electric by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:10:00 PM
do do do da-do da-do do do
OK "spoiler" whiners! by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:10:48 PM
To those who complained Herc "gave away" Bell's power - it was in the f-ing PROLOGUE. so quit yer bitchin'
"I'm not a cargo jet." by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:11:23 PM
I was half-expecting "I'm a doctor, Jim, not..."
jimbojones: interesting idea by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:11:34 PM
But Peter is so far removed from what's going on that I don't see him getting back across the pond before Sylar has eaten one of the two's brains.
Fortunately, guys, I'm nowhere near that neighborhood by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:14:24 PM
Where Papa Parkman's been crashing. ;)
CALLED IT by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:15:41 PM
I knew Parkman's Dad was a Red Herring
Why is Kristen Bell a great actress?... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:16:31 PM
Watch her scene at the doorstep of Duncan Kane's house in season one of Veronica Mars' "A Trip to the Dentist." Proof enough right there. Sidenote, looks like famous director of Twin Peaks, West Wing, and countless other shows, is now just going by Lesli Glatter.
well..that was anti-climatic! by mcordy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:17:22 PM
All that bro-ha over apt #9 and all we get is "they are after me too"...a little more imagination is in order here..........
Noah Gray-Cabay is an actual kickass pianist... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:21:49 PM
Useless trivia factoid.
Heh. See, it's not TV. It's what she sees by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:22:40 PM
Damn I'm good. Called that last week too.
Isn't it just too much of a coincidence... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:23:29 PM
that Micah is living with someone who also has powers, and Claire has classes with someone who does. Don't tell me it's destiny!
chrth by ororo_munroe	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:23:53 PM
Whaaaaaaaaaat? I shouldn't be here as I can't see it until tomorrow. Parkman's dad isn't the dreamstalker? WTF? It must be an evil empath then.
Heroes better not be stealing... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:25:35 PM
the fucking Black Lodge from Twin Peaks.
Papa Parkman = No Dummy. by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:26:15 PM
Word.
Now that's an awesome power by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:27:12 PM
It's like Candice, but you trap them in their own mind. He IS the Boogeyman. But still not the murderer.
ororo: I meant on the murderer thing by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:27:52 PM
Not the Nightmare Dude thing
ok... by mcordy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:28:28 PM
mcordy starts to eat his words... LOL
pursued_by_bear: no, he's a red herring ... by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:29:54 PM
unless he faked the picture, which I don't think he did. I still think it's the chick next to Parkman. Parkman's Dad is just trying to hide.
A TECHNICAL QUESTION: by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:30:23 PM
For weeks now, my NBC station has been coming in messed up. (all shows: heroes, office, chuck,... whatever) I am quite obviously missing stuff off the sides of the screen - picture, text, whatever. I think they're broadcasting the "HD" signal on even just the plain non-HD broadcast. I can even see the edge of the letters "HD" on the left of my screen. Is it NBC or is my cable company screwing up? It's really annoying. what happened to broadcasing it letterboxed for those of us without HD? Why mess up the picture for the majority of you audience, just to avoid having 2 different signals for your few HD customers?
Parkman, more than a mindreader by zooch	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:35:06 PM
That means Parkman will one day be able to do that.
"And my mom...Don't even get me started on my mom."... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:35:09 PM
Oh Micah! What a young, rambuncious scamp you are. What, are you explaining your summer vacation to your class or something?
SHIT! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:35:39 PM
Way to make an entrance, Ali...
"Don't get me started on my mom" by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:36:43 PM
Let me translate: We still haven't figured out exactly what her power is
Okay, Micah's mom comment... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:36:47 PM
would have been a lot better if half way through his delivery, it cut to the scene of her kicking ass.
DanielKurland by mcordy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:37:26 PM
lmao "What the hell is going on here?!?" my thoughts EXACTLY!
Now would be a great time for an ElleBell moment... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:39:50 PM
Yeah?
Hmmm...a blank easel... by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:41:52 PM

Er, blank canvas by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:43:02 PM

Glad NBC is promoting the hell out of Bell... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:43:15 PM
but maybe they should have saved it for an episode where she's actually significant. I full expect her to only re-appear at the end of the episode, saying she's married, or some bullshit, to Peter. Tonight's promo should have been about Micah's first errection while watching double-dutch.
OK, Peter, open the box... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:43:17 PM
And Isaac comes out...
HERE WE GO... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:43:54 PM

EMO KID IS THE BIG BAD!!! by MC Vamp	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:45:26 PM
He's gotta be. If that's NOT a calculated attempt to turn Claire against Daddy and put her valuable abilities under "Company" control, then he's just shittily written. West, or whatever he's called, is one of the main assholes, either a shapeshifter or immortal in addition to his flying power.
Fuck, I miss Veronica Mars... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:45:41 PM
I could be watching a Vinnie Van Lowe-run Neptune right now!
Yikes!!!! by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:46:06 PM
And the body count starts...
Sorry, why is Nathan seeing his face fucked up... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:47:55 PM
I don't recall what the explanation was.
wow...Micah laughing = cheesiest moment so far. by Mike_D	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:48:03 PM
lame.
Now THAT's a great trick by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:49:40 PM
Nice work
takes breath again by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:50:16 PM
after that scene...
ok...the "Dreamscape" fight by mcordy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:50:31 PM
was the best sequence yet this season
Don't feed the troll, guys by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:51:09 PM

I love Micah by Dreadlock Holmes	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:51:21 PM
Cute kid
BTW, have I mentioned I'm totally looking forward to by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:53:01 PM
The Phenomenon talkback?
Herc, next time you put a spoiler in a title... by Horseflesh	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:53:47 PM
I'm going to send you a video of the Gilmore Girl's beheading.
HEY THIS SHOW IS PRETTY GOOD by BringingSexyBack	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:54:21 PM
This is the first time I've watched it.
Ok, maybe it's not a red herring by chrth	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:54:40 PM
I'm confused. Which is a good sign that it's not immediately obvious.
God Bless Picture-in-Picture by ShiftyEyedDog2	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:54:47 PM
I'm totally watching something else that's actually GOOD, and only flipping back when I see they have another Kristen Bell scene.
WHO'S THE WHITE SAMAURAI DUDE? by BringingSexyBack	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:55:06 PM
Okay this is getting kinda silly.
You're gonna need a bigger sword, Kensei... by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:55:30 PM
And a hundred thousand more swords, it looks like...
Taskmaster! by Dreadlock Holmes	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:56:21 PM
Taskmaster!
Next week... by DanielKurland	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:56:25 PM
Micah "accidentally" shows the girl Deep Throat.
Suresh and Monica?? by Pennsy	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:57:46 PM
Wow.
I' by memento108	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:58:10 PM

ABC should change to VBC by thevision	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:58:45 PM
The Vagina Broadcasting Company. Other than LOST, its a fricking US Weekly and InStyle network. I wish LOST was on NBC. Come to think of it, JERICHO should be on NBC too.
I'm sorry guys.. by memento108	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:58:46 PM
I'd still fuck her, but God Damn Kristin Bell has the most annoying face ever.
woo by sitchin	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:59:01 PM
Sorry, daddy. It won't happen again.
KRISTEN BELL IS PRETTY GOOD AT BEING BAD by BringingSexyBack	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:59:16

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