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Brings The Year’s Final Hour-Long Edition of THE OFFICE!!

Sweet by Harold The Great	Oct 18th, 2007 04:29:04 AM
Love the show!
Hear that sound? by Harold The Great	Oct 18th, 2007 04:30:36 AM
It's me fucking the firsties! MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!
At last by Napoleon Park	Oct 18th, 2007 04:31:07 AM
hour long double features of half hour sit-coms just don't sustain.
Does this mean there's going to be a Cousin Mose sighting? by Boondock Devil	Oct 18th, 2007 04:51:04 AM
Make it so.
this show has built up so much goodwill by prbt	Oct 18th, 2007 04:55:17 AM
that even when episodes fall flat (like last week's), they're still great. I'd like to think they'd end it on top though, and not drag it out 'til no-one cares.
prbt by krodnoc	Oct 18th, 2007 05:09:53 AM
Wha? Last week's was great! But I agree, I'd prefer to see it go out on a high and not end up on a slow and painful downward trajectory.
PRBT you are SOOOOO wrong... by Literarywanderer	Oct 18th, 2007 05:10:53 AM
Last week's episode did not fall flat. Dwight's expression when the computer told him it had become self-aware: priceless. And the love triangle between Dwight, Angela, and Andy is going to be great comedic fodder.
ah well, least we all agree it's a great show by prbt	Oct 18th, 2007 05:16:41 AM
despite not agreeing over particular episodes.
Thank God - no more hourlong by Itchy	Oct 18th, 2007 05:54:43 AM
I like this show. I really do. But it needs to be a 1/2 hour. At an hour long, the show just drags, and it loses a bit of its pep. At a 1/2 hour, they edit for only the best gags and the flow just seems much better. They'd be better off doing a 1/2 hour office, followed by a 1/2 hour of nothing but Jenna Fisher in a bikini top rubbing baby oil all over herself.
Did someone say baby oil? by WhiteyFord	Oct 18th, 2007 07:29:58 AM
I could go for that.
Karen and Dwight...Together? by Sanotaro	Oct 18th, 2007 07:47:43 AM
To freak out Jim and Angela. It would be comedy gold
The Convention by Ryang	Oct 18th, 2007 08:04:50 AM
Should be a good time...
DVD screensaver by sapno_krei	Oct 18th, 2007 08:13:59 AM
The DVD screensaver intro (with the bouncing square) from last week still has me smiling. The show would do well to do one-minute interstitial shorts like that to air during the off-season.
So, why did they do the hour-long episodes in the first place? by GrandMuffTarkin	Oct 18th, 2007 08:44:53 AM
Anyone know? I thought they dragged on abit and had some dead spots, but overall it was fun. I'm glad they're switching back though.
Even the worst episodes of The Office... by LOTGA	Oct 18th, 2007 09:47:31 AM
are better than 90% of what's on TV right now.
Yes in some cases less is indeed more by skimn	Oct 18th, 2007 09:57:09 AM
I think NBC needed fill time before the start of Scrubs. Why, is beyond me. I think NBC thought Evan Almighty would go through the roof, and make Mr. Carell a higher profile asset to the show. As stated before, an extra half hour of Office is better than 99.9% of what clogs the airwzves anyway.
Last week had great moments by Jor-El23	Oct 18th, 2007 10:10:44 AM
But the hour long format is killing them. The max that The Office can do is a super-size, and maybe 1 hour long a year. Not 4 in a row to start the season.
Starting to come around... by Saluki	Oct 18th, 2007 10:13:10 AM
... Starting to come around to agreeing that the hour long format indeed drags. Lots of repeating going on. Better to cut the time so it stays fresh. That said, season 4 is INTENSE so far.
I like the hour longs... by fanboy71	Oct 18th, 2007 10:22:04 AM
But I will take what I can get. And the Jenna baby oil scene sounds like a winner too. Get that idea to NBC STAT. And speaking of STAT, does anyone know why ER is still on the air? Does anyone watch it anymore? I used to be a huge fan, but quit after Mark died. Every time we see a commercial, my wife and I comment on how we can't believe it's still on. Is it worth a watch?
Rashida Jones is back! by BackRiverCatfish	Oct 18th, 2007 10:22:11 AM
There is a god! I hope her new sitcom on Fox doesn't suck, she should be on TV every night.
This IS NOT the last hour-long episode of the year. by TheAndyDigital	Oct 18th, 2007 10:29:01 AM
Why do the guys who write for this site never know what the fuck they are talking about?
PRBT by mr.brownstone	Oct 18th, 2007 10:37:46 AM
Seriously? Last weeks episode was my favorite in ages.
I second the Jenna in baby oil. by erichaislar	Oct 18th, 2007 10:45:42 AM
The question is how is the show going to handle the sex part. Do you think They are sleeping together? or will they just tip-toe around that part of the relationship?
One dead scene - the Jenna/Michael conversation at the rabies ra by GrandMuffTarkin	Oct 18th, 2007 10:47:26 AM
That back and forth could have been edited down by 2 minutes at least.
The Office is like Aqua Teen Hunger Force... by Err	Oct 18th, 2007 11:11:17 AM
It is good in its small doses. ATHF does good in 15 minutes. Longer than that and it is hard to deal with. Office is good in half hour increments. Longer than that and it is hard to deal with.
Last week's by skimn	Oct 18th, 2007 11:19:54 AM
delivery boy storyline could have been dropped, and nothing would have been lost. Hey, if NBC gets real desperate they can have Joss direct a musical episode...
"Were you nominated for best rack?" by skimn	Oct 18th, 2007 11:22:13 AM
Jenna Fischer's line at the Emmys was the best..
Mr Brownstone by prbt	Oct 18th, 2007 11:26:35 AM
Yeah, sorry, last week's didn't do it for me. The preceding two weeks I loved. No biggie.
Joss Whedon directs the Nov 1 episode by Charlie Murphy	Oct 18th, 2007 12:27:33 PM
i think. correct me if i'm wrong. he said he directs the tenth episode, but since four were double, wouldn't episode ten in fact be episode six? either way, this show kicks ass, but i can't say i'll miss the super sized episodes./
Office isn't the only thing filmed in Van Nuys... by Judge Briggs	Oct 18th, 2007 12:41:29 PM
We've all seen those movies too... or free clips of them.
What does Joss Whedon's dick taste like? by Mr Spork	Oct 18th, 2007 12:41:39 PM
A minty flavor?
Yah! Back to half hour episodes after tonight by TVguy4566	Oct 18th, 2007 01:15:03 PM
This show doesn't work as an hour long show. There are only so many jokes you can milk out of the situations they put their characters in without losing focus or having Michael or Dwight step over that fine line of being funny characters with annoying personalities to annoying characters with annoying personalities.
It maybe be a little dated now by emeraldboy	Oct 18th, 2007 03:04:38 PM
but i was shocked to hear that it has taken american tv 30 years to do a remake of some mothers do have em. This along with phantom of the Opera made Micheal Crawford an international star. Crawford played Frank Spencer, the hapless and accident prone husband of Betty(michele Dotrice) and father Jessica. Specncer was also a staple of rubbish british impressionists such as les dennis and Bobby Davro. KIrsty Wark of Newsnight(or ex-newsnight after Mark the cannibal Thomas Savaged the bbc, to the point where its own existence was called into question, they are going to sell the famed TV centre) said that she found Spencer offensive. I would love to know how this turns out on us tv. Crawford did his own stunts. The christmas episode in whicb spencer played an angel, is one of the most brilliant episodes ever in the history of UK tv along with the scene in the rollar rink where spencer exists the rink, attaches himself to the back of a bus and ends up crahsing into a shop.
Heh? by Fatty Magee	Oct 18th, 2007 03:13:32 PM

Hourlongs weren't really hourlongs by SifoDyasJr.	Oct 18th, 2007 03:49:19 PM
they were just two 30 minute episodes tacked together. They continued a couple of continuing plot points, but the stories completely shifted gears after the halfway commercial breaks. Not that I'm complaining about having more of "The Office"
Don't understand why people say the 'hourlong doesn't work' by Richard Cranium	Oct 18th, 2007 03:53:22 PM
All it is is 2 half hour episodes jammed together. You can easily see where they're going to make the cuts when the shows go to syndication. Speaking of syndication, perhaps that's one of the reasons for the hourlongs. Can get 28-29 half hour eps for syndication out of this year rather than the normal 23-24. I'll agree that the first 3 weeks haven't been my favorite Office episodes of all time or anything, but I've still thoroughly enjoyed it every week. I thought last season started off a bit sluggish as well, then really took off and started getting great around the Christmas ep.
One thing I loved about last week... by GrandMuffTarkin	Oct 18th, 2007 04:16:40 PM
Michael's constant "short" insults to Angela. What'd you say pipsqueak? Take it easy, boosterseat. You have to be this tall to ride the rollercoaster.
Mr. Spork by Charlie Murphy	Oct 18th, 2007 04:37:43 PM
it comes in Cherry and Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough.
Jason Reitman directs "Local Ad" according to Greg Daniels by viewdrix	Oct 18th, 2007 04:45:30 PM
Stephen Merchant directs an upcoming episode too. From his live blog following the "Fun Run" premiere in September. "September 27, 10:19 PM Gervais/Merchant Stephen Merchant will be directing an episode in a few months. We are very excited to spend the week with him. He is an extremely funny and even taller man. Also, starting Monday, Jason Reitman (Thank You For Smoking) starts directing an episode called "Local Ad" where Dunder Mifflin makes an ad and Michael gets very excited and hijacks the production." http://blog.nbc.com/theoffice/ 2007/09/gervaismerchant.php
re: TheAndyDigital by Prior Walter	Oct 18th, 2007 07:02:10 PM
Are you sure? I know it's not the last of the season, but pretty sure after tonight it returns to 30 min. for the rest of 2007.
The best news here is... by goodolbuddybert	Oct 18th, 2007 07:35:55 PM
Only one more week til SCRUBS comes back! Bill Lawrence promises a return to the style of the early seasons for the final year and I for one can't wait!
Mose's Shirt by Super Nintendo Chalmers	Oct 18th, 2007 08:20:02 PM
Dwight's cousin Mose had an awesome camouflage Jurassic Park shirt on when he was giving Pam the serial killer look.
Best. Episode. Ever. by Itchy	Oct 18th, 2007 08:58:46 PM
So far, at least. Just classic. Mose is comedy gold. And yes, if you go to trip advisor, there is an entry for Schrute Farms and people are reviewing their stays there. Some are rather funny.
episode by motivotion	Oct 18th, 2007 08:58:56 PM
funny, full of wit, even tugs a little at the heart...my fav. show is back
The Office is TV's best drama by BrowncoatJedi	Oct 18th, 2007 08:59:10 PM
A little light on the comedy, but the drama was tops tonight. What other show has this much range?
Larry David minus Jerry Seinfeld equals funny. by Hercules	Oct 18th, 2007 09:01:25 PM
Jerry Seinfeld minus Larry David equals not so funny.
This episode was great by FreeKill	Oct 18th, 2007 09:12:55 PM
I felt the season started off a little slow, but this episode was right on the money. I laughed out loud several times, what more can you ask for right? I think the show will be even better once they ditch the hourly format, it was made for 30 mins!
Favorite moment by Kung Fu Hustler	Oct 18th, 2007 09:18:10 PM
Michael's amazement at seeing his name at the top of a PowerPoint slide.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ by TomBodet	Oct 18th, 2007 09:39:48 PM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ---lemm e guess, they all troop over to Carell's place and watch his little Noah fiasco from this June, right?
Cousin Mose running along side the car by Boondock Devil	Oct 18th, 2007 10:12:10 PM
You just know you're going to see something special when he's on. Great episode(s).
I loved this episode by underscore_only	Oct 18th, 2007 11:31:28 PM
Cousin Mose, "I declare . . .BANKRUPTCY!!" were great. And the Powerpoint/"Whomever" part was easily one of the show's finest moments.
Not too many LOL spots by buffywrestling	Oct 19th, 2007 12:44:47 AM
But it was an astounding episode. Micheal was a popular guy at his other job, people hanging on his stories (I think Micheal read Vern's Die Hard TB!), being invited out for a beer...just so amazingly unlike how he is as a manager. Carrell just about killed me, singing Soul Asylum (incorrectly, of course) in a box car. It was sadfunny. Which will bring me to Dwight's cryanger. Jim's outpouring of crushed feelings about Pam made him feel not so alone anymore. Before Angela, who did Dwight really have? Mose (who I thought was going to start barking at Jim and Pam's car) who he takes care of, and Micheal, who he worships. Keep selling paper, Dwight. It will pass. Noteworthy: Micheal's telemarketing call to Stanley. Beets and Harry Potter!! (Last talkback, I said Beets & BSG. Potter would have been my second choice. heh.) Dwight's Dunndies on the mantle. PB & J pushed the homemade beds together. Andy's "stance" and "Garbage" present. Declaring Bankruptcy. Whoever? Whomever? Toby with a knife in his neck. Scrantonicity 2. Dangling feet.
TomBodet: Most Rested Man Alive by chromedome	Oct 19th, 2007 01:04:37 AM
all he ever does is sleep and snore in the talkbacks--nice work if you can get it! just glad his snoring-self don't live in the apartment next door... sshhhhh... let him sleep....
best lol moment by apfrance	Oct 19th, 2007 01:13:03 AM
Kelly: "Ryan used me as an object" I love the hour episodes, watch on DVR and forward thru commercials is way better, can skip BEE movie nonsense. Maybe that's why you all don't like hour long version?
this episode was nearly office-uk quality by Holodigm	Oct 19th, 2007 01:23:36 AM
the uk version always had a hint of depressing attached to all the humor - while it was funny, you were always being reminded about how awful all their lives were. tonight was the first time i saw any of that in the US version.
holodigm by jauntyguy	Oct 19th, 2007 01:32:09 AM
i think you've hit the nail on the head. seeing the uk crew, especially tim, as incredibly sad is part of what made the uk version great. i think we're starting to see some of that greatness in the us version. it's starting to transcend simply wacky situations.
My favorite subtle bit by StealthBeagle	Oct 19th, 2007 02:00:46 AM
...was Dwight playing "You Give Love A Bad Name" on his recorder with nobody else acknowledging it or referring to it whatsoever. Just a brilliant little moment.
What? Micheal's whole LIFE is awful! by buffywrestling	Oct 19th, 2007 02:39:34 AM
From his Mom's boyfriend, to being friends with the lunch lady, to his neurotic girlfriend, to his self acclaimed mentoree getting promoted over him, now to being bankrupt. Micheal's a loser. It's just that half of the time, he doesn't know it..
Jack: "Now you're thinking like a businessman." by tonagan	Oct 19th, 2007 05:41:32 AM
Liz: "Businesswoman." Jack: "I don't think that's a word."
Holodigm, I came here to say the same thing. by beastie	Oct 19th, 2007 06:23:16 AM
I hope that this episode is a sign of things to come, for the rest of the season. There were moments, like in the UK version, that you weren't sure was supposed to be funny, making them so much better. Oh. And Mose running next to the car had me cracking up.
Sweaty Pam in a tank top by haggardatbest	Oct 19th, 2007 06:42:53 AM
Nearly killed me
Quick comment about something Jim said last night by indyjonez100	Oct 19th, 2007 07:14:59 AM
As he and Pam were driving onto Dwight's farm Jim made reference about how he had heard about Dwight's farm but never thought it existed and then here he was driving towards it. Was it just me (and my wife noticed also) or didn't Dwight make reference to Jim having been to the farm previously when he was initiating Ryan with his tasks before going out on sales calls? Didn't Dwight say during that episode that he didn't have this much trouble with Jim, which leads me to believe that Jim has been to the farm. Is it just lazy writing? Can someone clarify this?
Mose running next to car by Fatty Magee	Oct 19th, 2007 07:28:14 AM
was that a tribute to "Witness?"
I disagree that hourlong is just two half hours together by TVguy4566	Oct 19th, 2007 07:30:59 AM
Yes, there are some storylines are wrapped up in each half hour, but the writers have used the hour long format to add more sweeping archs that just don't have enough material to carry. Other than Jim and Pam, there was no major story arch. The Dwight and Angela relationship was in the background and only pop up here and there for comedic effect. Now the who Dwight/Angela/Andy thing is getting major attention because they have more time to develop it. Some of it works, some of it doesn't. Personally, I liked it better when it was a minor story arch and only the gems came out. Also, the Michael/Ryan conflict is getting a lot more attention than the Jan/Michael conflict (even when Michael and Jan started to date). Maybe this has less to do with the hourlongs and more to do with BJ Novak being a writer for the show. Again, a lot of the Michael/Ryan stuff works, but would probably benefit from a less is more philosophy. They are kinda just reruning the some of the same jokes in different scenarios. Maybe they are just trying to move the show in new directions, but I don't see how anyone can say that for the most part that the first four episodes haven't been less focused or inconsistent as previous year. I thought last night's episode was the best of the season. But that episode spent the entire episode with Michael's money problems as a major plot point for the entire hour.
Sorry by TVguy4566	Oct 19th, 2007 07:32:30 AM
In my last post I meant that in previous years the Jim/Pam thing was the only real major story arch.
two episodes by Shakes	Oct 19th, 2007 08:23:03 AM
I don't know, I was kind of feel that the hourlongs feel more like two separate episodes than full hour longs. As someone said before, once Scrubs comes along and these are repeated as half hour episodes we'll see. Yeah there were certain themes that remained prevalent throughout, but that will be true of back to back episodes in any serialized show. I think there's a clear difference in quality between these hour longs, and last seasons Christmas hour-long. That one just got kind of painful towards the end. Case in point, Michael and Andy singing Your Body is a Wonderland. The joke was the fact they were singing it at all. But we were actually shown them singing the whole song, which ruined the joke. In a normal sized episode we'd see them singing that song for a second, then it would cut away to the next scene. Again, we'll all be able to judge when they're rebroadcast as half hours. And on a side note, Earl (last night's ep not withstanding) and 30 Rock have both been excellent this season.
Shakes by TVguy4566	Oct 19th, 2007 08:33:39 AM
I agree about last night's episode of Earl. I had high hopes since they could step outside the rather loose rules that bind the Earl universe because everything was done via creative writing. Unfortunately, the execution was poor. Otherwise, I am surprised how well they have pulled off Earl being in prison which I thought could have been a show killer. As for the hourlongs, they are definitely making the shows in a way so they can cut them into two half hour shows for syndication, but they still are not nearly as tight as two self contained episodes and there more arching themes this year.
HR PuffinStuff by TVGuy Returns	Oct 19th, 2007 09:48:58 AM
Will no one acknowledge that the best man-sized homosexual dragon of the 1970's is having his Best Week Ever in at least a decade! Hopefully the VH1 crew will on Best Week Ever. BTW, Best Week Ever is untalkbackable since it is essentially a televised Talkback populated by people much more clever than us.
Making Michael Retarded is Killing this Show Quickly by DevilCat	Oct 19th, 2007 10:15:46 AM
As others have noted, this season completes the transformation of Michael Scott from a boorish guy with a certain level of intelligence into a complete imbecile on a par with Peter "Family Guy" Griffin and later-season Homer Simpson. Unfortunately, what sometimes works with a animated cartoon does not in a live action sitcom and it is draining the laughs right out of this show.
DevilCat by slone13	Oct 19th, 2007 11:02:11 AM
If by "killig this show quickly" you mean "helping the show get its highest ratings ever" than you are correct.
Jim at Schrute Farm by Jor-El23	Oct 19th, 2007 12:11:15 PM
I sort of remember the reference from last season's "Initiation" episode. I don't remember the exact line but the impression I got was more that Dwight tried to be friends with Jim but that didn't work out so he was hoping to be friends with Ryan.
slone13 by DevilCat	Oct 19th, 2007 12:41:47 PM
"High ratings" won't last if word of mouth starts to drop off on the show. And people I know who used to swear by this show ("normal" people, not AICN types) are starting to lose some enthusiasm for the season because of the way Carrell is now playing Michael. In addition, "The Office" has never been a ratings powerhouse to begin with, so "highest ratings ever" is not exactly a great accomplishment.
I guess it's all how you look at it DevilCat by slone13	Oct 19th, 2007 01:15:48 PM
I mean, from a ratings stand point, regardless of whether or not it's ever been a "powerhouse", the fact that in its 3rd season it is getting its highest ratings ever means the show is going nowhere any time soon. And more and more people I know are just now starting to watch The Office. They picked up seasons 1 and 2 on DVD and fell in love with the show. I think the show has just gotten better with every season. I think your comparison to Homer is right on, too. I just think it's a good thing where you do not. I like the dumber, less angry Homer Simpson. He was a borderline asshole in the first few seasons. Now, while significantly dumber, Homer is far more lovable. That's how I prefer Michael as well.
The "Family Guy" episode of Earl by INWOsuxRED	Oct 19th, 2007 01:31:05 PM
put the breaks on a great season, which had momentum from a bad season that ended on a high note last year. References and racism don't make for good Earl.
Great Office episode(s) last night by INWOsuxRED	Oct 19th, 2007 01:35:22 PM
That hour really held together well, the comedy was good and the storylines were even better. Michael seemed way more "real world", and the characters all seemed more human and less "wacky neighbor". Also thumbs up to the Creed & Michael conversation. I enjoy hearing two idiots mis-inform each other in such a blatant way, and also felt for Oscar having to listen to the conversation.
What's a "story arch?" Why the obsession with feet? by gruntybear	Oct 19th, 2007 01:50:01 PM
It's "arc," not "arch," dude. Unless you're slobbering over Pam's tootsies.
is that the only type you found in this entire talkback? by INWOsuxRED	Oct 19th, 2007 01:57:50 PM
Maybe you should just print out every talkback and mark it up with a red pen and mail it out to all of us. Would that make your life better?
I wrote type instead of typo by INWOsuxRED	Oct 19th, 2007 01:58:46 PM
did it make your head explode?
Jor-El23 regarding Jim at Schrute Farm by indyjonez100	Oct 19th, 2007 02:05:14 PM
I was under the impression from watching that episode "Initiation" that Jim had been through a similar Initiation by Dwight at the farm in the way he was describing the experience to Ryan, I guess I've got to go back and perhaps rewatch the episode to find the reference.
I have always said... by Frank Black	Oct 19th, 2007 02:55:08 PM
The Office episodes were too short at 30 minutes and I still feel that way. I could watch it in 2 hour installments. If all television was this good I wouldn't have time for anything else so thank goodness 90 percent of broadcast television sucks whale balls (oh yes, I am quite sure whales DO have balls!)
if anyone caught 30 rock last night, it was so great. steve busc by wcoop893	Oct 19th, 2007 03:51:08 PM
after 2 lacking episodes before it, this episode leading into a great office was amazing
I agree with Frank Black by Super Nintendo Chalmers	Oct 19th, 2007 03:56:45 PM
My girlfriend and I have marathons where we watch as many as four or five episodes in a row on DVD. Michael does seem to shout more this season, but driving his car into the lake was the only thing that seemed a little too stupid. I think Steve Carell does an incredible job, especially in this weeks episode.
So Michael could be a popular salesman? by Larry of Arabia	Oct 19th, 2007 04:14:20 PM
He "rose to the level of his incompetence," as they say. He may have had a happy normal life if he wasn't the boss. I like that. He's no longer a jerk and fool, he's more desperate guy in over his head?
Thanks AnimalStructure by Super Nintendo Chalmers	Oct 19th, 2007 05:47:42 PM
Now I know, and I will never watch the American version.
It was very funny when..... by BillyPilgrim	Oct 19th, 2007 06:02:39 PM
Michael said that Fikrus' doctorate probably cost 40 bucks and that he could have been chief of surgery in India.
British version will Never have Jenna Fischer... by chromedome	Oct 19th, 2007 06:41:00 PM
..watch a Jenna-Lacking version if you prefer Cough [putz!] Cough
I could have been chief of surgery... by Super Nintendo Chalmers	Oct 19th, 2007 07:19:53 PM
or a cowboy.
This episode was genius by Darth_BaIIs	Oct 20th, 2007 03:17:57 AM
Laughed my ass off the whole time!
one of the BEST episodes in the series by SantiagoAtez	Oct 20th, 2007 08:07:10 AM
This was great! Good job, Paul Leiberstein!
according to IMDB, Paul Lieberstein wrote my favorite eps by SantiagoAtez	Oct 20th, 2007 08:11:14 AM
Well, most of them anyway. "Dwight's Speech" anyone? Had no idea the Toby was writing and directing...
I can't figure out by Roy Neary	Oct 20th, 2007 01:45:33 PM
what your all gushing over. I love The Office, but if this were the first episode I watched, I'd never watch it again. It sucked. As a matter of fact this whole season is just different. I don't know...maybe next week.
Jim and Pam's Relationship by RaRoMo	Oct 20th, 2007 04:11:06 PM
I haven't liked the new season so far as much as I loved the first three seasons (although Thursday's show was better than the first few episodes.) I think part of it (as others have said) is that it's hard for this show to sustain a high level over 44 minutes rather than just 22 minutes. Part of the problem too though (for me at least) is that there was a poignancy over how Jim and Pam couldn't/didn't connect. Now that they are a couple, that tension is missing. I almost hope that as the season progresses, there's a challenge to their relationship. For example, a Fedex or DHL guy who delivers packages every day starts flirting with Pam, and she treats it as a joke at first, but the guy is in fact interesting (maybe he's an artist too, or has had a collection of short stories published.)
I hope there is no tension to Jim & Pam by INWOsuxRED	Oct 20th, 2007 07:22:00 PM
at all. To me that story is essentially done. They're going out, it isn't in your face, and they interact almost exactly like they used to. The last thing I want to see is a forced conflict to drag out a finished storyline. If you want the tension, look to Michael & Jan who are both just about to competely implode, and look to Andy/Angela/Dwight, as that storyline seems to have helped humanize all three characters a great deal.
INWOsuxRED by The Alienist	Oct 21st, 2007 01:10:57 PM
I couldn't agree more. And plus, both characters are so aware and smart that any typical sitcom breakup bullshit (mistaken identity, accidental flirting, someone walking in at the wrong moment, etc) would be easily overlooked. And they are so obviously in love (did Jenna really leave her husband for Krazinski? cause their chemistry is out of control!) that it would have to take a lot of believable plot mechanisms to break them up.
Speaking of Sitcoms by emeraldboy	Oct 21st, 2007 02:09:05 PM
When is Spaced season three coming out on DVD?
Fox is behind the dreaded remake by emeraldboy	Oct 21st, 2007 02:25:46 PM
of Some Mothers do 'ave 'em. I dont see it happening unless its Carrey doing it but Carrey is too big for tv, Carell could work. It is a little dated now some mothers but what is not dated is the sight of Crawford doing his own stunts. and his extraodinary performance as frank spencer. I laugh so hard at the epsiode with the nativity it makes me sick and the episode where he gets a job in a canteen. Kirsty Wark doesnt like The show.
INWOsuxRed is right by Mel Gibsteinberg	Oct 22nd, 2007 10:20:40 AM
TBS is re-airing the older episodes of The Office, when you watch them you realize that Jim and Pam flirted and joked out of control. The only thing that changed that was the strain with Roy, and then in Season 3 with Karen. Now that they are together, they pretty much are the same friends they were before, only with benefits. If they ever pull some Ross and Rachel bullshit it would ruin the show forever, and so far at least, it seems like they aren't even thinking in those terms. This may be one of the first shows in history where once the two flirtatious leads got together, their chemistry helped make the show that much better, instead of the deflating tension help add to the demise of the show. Here's to more hourlongs, more Jim and Pam, and of course, more Mose. Hmmm, Mose would make a great name for a dog, I think my next dog should be named Mose, yeah, I like that.
My favourite line was from Michael at his by Big Jim	Oct 22nd, 2007 02:55:54 PM
second job, when told of a meeting in the conference room in 5 minutes, says "these meetings are always a waste of time".

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