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AICN COMICS Q&@ with UMBRELLA ACADEMY's Gerard Way! CAPTAIN CARROT! COMICS4HALLOWEEN! & MUCH MORE!

First! by Little Dick Wick	Oct 17th, 2007 01:42:35 AM
Oh snap...
MOD NEEDED IN THE McCOY TALKBACK. by Shermdawg	Oct 17th, 2007 02:00:44 AM
Thank you.
3rd by ironic_name	Oct 17th, 2007 02:25:04 AM
transmissionx and brawl
It's been a bad year for Tigra by Jinxo	Oct 17th, 2007 02:55:28 AM
Yeah, poor Tigra. I mean, she's been taking it on the chin before New Avengers. First off, she's the only hero to really come off as a complete douche in Civil War. Yes, Iron Man and Reed were utter dicks but they at least got to be up front I-think-I'm-doing-the-right-th ing dicks. Tigra got to be the only Benedict Arnold spy in the whole affair. Sold out all the rebels. Then she gets mind controlled and turned into Puppetmaster's toy. I mean where's the cool in getting defeated and pimped out by a small nerdy bald dude? And now she gets bitch slapped, threatened and embarrassingly humiliated in New Avengers. I mean... damn. Oh wait! Before that she also got a crap Initiative state assignment. Only one thing left to do to her. She goes to get treatment for her beat-down injuries and comes out forced to wear one of those giant plastic pet cones around her neck so she won't pick at her injuries.
"Black Goliath-killing" ??? by Midnightxpress	Oct 17th, 2007 05:45:58 AM
I think someone needs to go back and actually read Civil War before writing crap like the above...
Little Johnny Shermdog...... by BangoSkank	Oct 17th, 2007 07:09:27 AM
Little Johnny Shermdog just ran into my first period Earth Science class and asked for Mr. Roberts to come quick and help. Why? 'Cause Timmy Anderson and Tony Nelson were fighting! Fist fighting!
I just wish more comic book stores were kid friendly by teethgnasher	Oct 17th, 2007 07:14:27 AM
Giving away comics is great idea. I will try it this year. I love the medium. That being said, I wish the industry would take more steps to make comic books more accessible for kids. When a kid thinks of Spider-Man, he/she thinks of the movies and going to Wal-Mart to purchase the movies and toys. Most parents don't think of the comic specialty stores either.
Wow. Captain Carrot... by BizarroJerry	Oct 17th, 2007 07:35:21 AM
The amount of time the @$$holes and these other comic book guys have spent discussing Captain Carrot... It boggles the mind.
Did Byrne really say that about Captain Carrot? by rev_skarekroe	Oct 17th, 2007 08:04:46 AM
What a crackpot.
Time wasted talkin about Capt. Carrot when they COULD be talking by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 17th, 2007 08:11:16 AM
G.I. JOE!
Bryne by teethgnasher	Oct 17th, 2007 08:35:03 AM
Bryne killed Superboy dammit! And he is a Has Been.
Ten years from now: Kid Friendly Digital comic book downloads by teethgnasher	Oct 17th, 2007 08:46:53 AM
and $100.00 DC archives
some cool news by PVIII	Oct 17th, 2007 08:47:29 AM
Ocean has been optioned by Zack Snyder's production company, if anyone cares...
Midnightxpress by WarpedElements	Oct 17th, 2007 08:50:10 AM
I think he's referring to the fact that since Mr. Fantastic created Thor-Clone that he's ultimately responsible for Black Goliath's death. Or something.
Help Spread the Word about Giving Comics for Halloween! by Squashua	Oct 17th, 2007 09:11:42 AM
No secret agenda here, gang. Print out that flyer and bring it to the local store, blog about the concept, etc. GET THE WORD OUT!
Byrne's raging asshole-ocity by RenoNevada2000	Oct 17th, 2007 09:29:00 AM
Got a link to the caps of that thread where Byrne runs down Captain Carrot? Today is kind of sucking and I could use a good laugh.
Midnight, Warped by stones_throw	Oct 17th, 2007 09:45:14 AM
If any of y'all went on to the next paragraph I did clarify it -- but ultimately Reed built a dangerous robot that immediately malfunctioned resulting in the death of an old friend of his, so in a story that made a lick of sense there should be some MAJOR guilt and consequences there. Of course, if making sense was an issue there wouldn't have been a story, y'know?
WarpedElements by Midnightxpress	Oct 17th, 2007 09:45:38 AM
Indeed...thou that is abit like accusing Peter Parker of being "Uncle Ben Killing"....
WarpedElements by Midnightxpress	Oct 17th, 2007 09:45:48 AM
Indeed...thou that is abit like accusing Peter Parker of "Uncle Ben Killing"....
Know what pisses me off? by toshiro-solo	Oct 17th, 2007 09:46:31 AM
The "need" to undo the Parker/Watson marriage. True, the marriage itself wasn't the most gracefully executed storyline of all time, but that's kind of beside the point. The idea that Pete's somehow a more interesting character as a down on his luck single guy than as a down on his luck married guy is retarded! There's plenty of storytelling potential to both scenarios, but the bottom line is that the character has been married for 20 years now, and THAT'S THE CHARACTER. What's more is that MJ had begun to have a chance to come into her own as a character before all of the editorial mandates of "Civil War/Back in Black/One More Day" took over the controls. I'm excited to see Slott's take on the character, but I'm honestly considering dropping Spidey altogether if/when the MJ retcon happens.
want to know what makes me mad by Bloo	Oct 17th, 2007 10:00:14 AM
that Grocery stores, convience stores, Wal-Mart, etc don't carry comics anymore. I live in a small Kansas town, and I love comics but if I want to get comics I have to drive well over 100miles to find any or order through mail, if I roder through mail I'm stuck with a year long sub to a comic that may end up being crap. I would love to give comics to kids, I'd go out and invest money in it but it's just not feasible for me because if I give them out, how do I tell them where to get more. AWWWW!!!! What happened to the spinner racks of my youth, why did Wally World stop with comics and go with the occiousnial TPB, this makes no sense!
Marvel uses invasions as filler by roboknob	Oct 17th, 2007 10:01:28 AM
Has anyone else noticed that Marvel is just focusing on invasions? Every marvel book post-CW is just invasion this and invasion that. Skrulls, Ninjas, Symbiotes, Monsters, robots, hulks, aliens. Villains and Heroes used to get character development... They don't know what they're doing.
Midnight by stones_throw	Oct 17th, 2007 10:05:02 AM
Yeah, if Pete was waving a gun around and it misfired. Not really seeing the comparison there. Mr Fantastic builds an offensive weapon which kills someone. There's intention to harm there, which resulted in death. Spidey doesn't stop a burglar. No intent. Maybe if Pete had given the burglar a lift to his house...
The spinner rack... by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 17th, 2007 10:10:20 AM
Man. We lived life on the run when I was a boy, moving every one or two years, sometimes every few months. Whatever town we were in, though, I would look for an Eckerds. They always had a spinner rack. Every Eckerds always had this really cool smell, I don't know what it was, particularly, sort of clean and antiseptic, with a hint of "new book scent." But to me, that smell became the smell of new comic books. I could walk into that store and KNEW there were new comics books waiting for me. "Howard the Duck #1? That'll never be worth anything. Oooooh! The new Marvel Team-Up is out! Who's the half-naked bald chick hanging out with Spidey and the Vision?" Man. Them's was the days...
Nova finally coming into his own by FatRat	Oct 17th, 2007 10:19:07 AM
I've been a Nova fan since vol. 1 issue 1, way back in the day. I'm glad that he's finally being treated the way he should be. I did like his run in the New Warriors in the 90's but the comedy miniseries just sucked. Now if only DC could do the same with Firestorm
MidnightExpress by ErnieAnderson	Oct 17th, 2007 10:36:41 AM
Thou is something Thor would say. Though is a much different word. Perhaps you've been raped one too many times in a Turkish prison.
Publix still carries comics by rev_skarekroe	Oct 17th, 2007 10:45:26 AM
I picked up a recent issue of "New Avengers" there (the one with the plane crash). Your big two bookstore chains, Barnes + Noble and Borders, also have spinnder racks. Those are about the most mainstream locations to get comics that I know about these days. Is it just a choice of the stores and chains, or does it have something to do with Diamond being the monopolized distributer of comics these days?
Comics outside of comic stores... by stones_throw	Oct 17th, 2007 10:53:20 AM
As I understand it it's no longer economic for stores outside the direct market to carry single issues so much. They're too expensive and don't sell as well as they used to. In the 90s Marvel tried launching a line of cheaper books aimed at chains (Kurt Busiek's UNTOLD TALES OF SPIDER-MAN was one of these) but stores were reluctant to stock them because the profit margins were just too low, apparently.
MR. FANTASTIC DOESN’T STRETCH HIS NECK by fiester	Oct 17th, 2007 11:00:55 AM
I never noticed that before but it is absolutely true.
Parker/Watson marriage by fiester	Oct 17th, 2007 11:04:27 AM
They will probably undo that and undo his secret identity outing and take him back to his roots. I always thought Black Cat was much wilder and hotter than MJ and a better match for Pete.
I have a spinner rack. It's awesome. by Burgundy82	Oct 17th, 2007 11:59:44 AM
Just sayin'...
Spinner racks, con't... by Burgundy82	Oct 17th, 2007 12:07:59 PM
Mine says stuff like "Hey Kids! Comics!" along the top. It squeaks when it turns and when I was a kid playing with superhero toys it always served as a skyskraper. I stowed it in the basement during high school when I was on the football team and suddenly, stupidly embarrassed to be a geek but brought it back out during college when I learned to once again not give a fuck what people thought. Moral of the story: Nobody puts baby in the corner, and nobody puts a kickass spinner rack in the basement.
FF has been terrible... by xsi kal	Oct 17th, 2007 12:30:53 PM
...and it's not all Civil War's fault. The whole black panther/storm team-up with the FF has been worse than ridiculous. I don't follow Black Panther normally, and nothing in these issues has changed that stance... so he's super smart, somehow able to full nelson the silver surfer, and generally behaves like an ultra-serious ass? Gee, how wonderful! For me, the last time this series was really rolling was when Waid was writing it and Wieringo (RIP) was drawing. Since then, it's been one misstep after another. (And yes, Civil War was one of them). Regarding the whole MJ/Spiderman debate... I'm fine with them retconning the relationship... partly because I am tired of all the hyperbole from those opposed to the idea, and partly because I think they've pretty much played out most of the stories that can be told about that marriage. (And I've been married for 11 years, so it's not like I am anti-marriage... just anti-boredom). Finally... while I am enjoying Runaways, I would vastly prefer actually getting an issue a month. I love Whedon, but so far, his titles seem to be late an awful lot.
re: FF by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 17th, 2007 12:40:56 PM
I haven't been able to stand FF ever since Black "I'm Batman" Panther came aboard. I can't stand the way the Duffster writes him, trying SOOOO hard to make him a badass. "Galactus Contingecy Plan"? Please. Next thing you know, he's going to whip out a can of shark-repellent from his utility belt. We get it, Mr. McDuffie, you want him to be well-respected. That's fine. But when you have Reed Richards, the leader of the Marvel world's premier supergroup AND one of the most brilliant minds in the universe, unable to lead whenever the Panther is in the same room - really, it's so obvious as to border on pathetic. It's not a zero-sum game. In order for Panther to be effective, the writing doesn't have to make Richards or everyone else look LESS effective.
re:chains and not carrying books by Bloo	Oct 17th, 2007 01:17:09 PM
I belive it's the chain's choice but it depends on profitablity. A TPB or two takes up less room on the shelf and selling those at 20, 25 bucks a pop is mor profitable then selling 25 or so comics at a couple of dollars a pop because you're not guarentted to sell all your comics. My local Kroger/Dillons store carries a few comics but it's hard to get into them when you start off with the first issue of an arch but they don't carry that title again for one or two issues. Usually it's an X title, maybe an FF, once in awhile a Star wars Dark Horse comic, and a superman title. It's, like I said, frustrating to be a comic fan in a small town without a barnes and nobel, Borders, Hastings, etc. on the plus side I did pick up Marvel 1608 or whatever it was called at a Target and was impressed with it
transmission x and gerard way by Shigeru	Oct 17th, 2007 01:25:30 PM
I was going to come in here and give gerard way shit for being in a shit band but hey looks like he knows his stuff so whatever. trasmission x has like 8 times the talent of all the rest of the books reviewed
FF and Black Panther by stones_throw	Oct 17th, 2007 01:42:58 PM
Rock, I gotta say: how has McDuffie made Reed look ineffective? If I could block out the (unavoidable) inclusion of CIVIL WAR continuity, I'd say he's writing a pretty bang-up Mr. Fantastic. I loved stuff like his visit to Hank Pym: "You're one of the most brilliant biologists on the planet. It would take me weeks to reach your level." I wouldn't say Reed's a naturally forceful or egotistical guy - in fact in the Lee and Kirby issues it's kind of a running joke how ego-less he is, always putting everyone else first. The FF has never been like the Avengers with a Captain America giving orders. But the Black Panther - he IS that kind of guy. He's Mr Contingency - a scientist, monarch and hunter and, yes, a little up-his-own-ass. In his first appearance he invited the FF to Wakanda so he could hunt them down to make sure they were formidable opponents. I can buy him acting in control, and I can buy his old friend Reed not having a problem with that. I'd say they have a mutual respect for eachother. Thye're old friends so I don't think they would be competing. And stuff like the Galactus Contingency or Surfer headlock, while not really credible (but we're not really in for reality here anyway) is just fun, and within keeping for his character, I'd say. I was skeptical of the (temporary and now finished) addition of Storm and Black Panther to the team - it smacks of the kind of stunts we've got from Marvel recently - but I think McDuffie's handled it great in an old-school kind of way. Black Panther has a lot of history with the FF, so it doesn't feel forced, and it's not like Reed and Sue have just disappeared from the book. It's really the kind of team-up I wouldn't mind a lot more of in my Marvel books. (And I didn't mention it in the review, but it was cool to see Dr. Strange appear in the latest issue too! The book really has that shared-universe feel at the moment.) Man, I sound like I'm gushing with praise about the book...which I suppose I would be if it didn't have to address CIVIL WAR. Apparently McDuffie is still to reveal Reed's "real" motivation for his actions, which I imagine will be a lot smarter and more coherent than anything Marvel's offered us so far, but still not quite good enough.
Burgundy82, by mrfan	Oct 17th, 2007 01:51:21 PM
Good story about your spinner rack. Would kill to have one.
Gerard Way is honestly really cool by degikrinbakedirfuvkeit	Oct 17th, 2007 02:09:10 PM
I know alot of people here probably dislike his band, but don't write My Chemical Romance off as some teenybopper pop/rock band, their music is very creative, and catchy too. It's just their unfortunate tennybopper fans that I dislike. And as you can tell with the interview, Gerard knows his shit, and seems like a pretty cool guy. Good job man.
My Chemical Romance by rev_skarekroe	Oct 17th, 2007 02:28:07 PM
That video a few years ago that was made to look like the trailer for a teen comedy film was brilliant.
John Byrne is an asshole... by OtisSpofford	Oct 17th, 2007 02:30:50 PM
...exceeded in his idiocy only by the people at DC who let him reboot Superman - the ONLY good thing he brought to the mythos was that Clark Kent is the "real" person and Superman is his alter ego, not vice-versa - I will never forgive him (or DC) for turning Krypton into a world of cold and aloof scientists and which deserved to blow up - bring back a Krypton with wonders - one that was tragically lost!
In further defense of Way and MCR by Burgundy82	Oct 17th, 2007 02:31:29 PM
Hey, guy above me whose name I'm too lazy to spell, you are absolutely right. I hate it when bands of respecable talent with thoughtful lyrics and a good sound pique the interest of the TRL set. I assure you all, Way never intended to court that demographic. Proof? Listen to MCR's last album, "The Black Parade". It's what "American Idiot" would sound like if someone had murdered Billy Joe Armstrong's whole family with a sickle before he wrote and recorded it. Chuck Klosterman calls MCR the most accurately rated band of the moment (as in, not overrated, not underrated) and I think he puts it best. They're fucking solid and just plain good at what they do, much like the Foo Fighters, who have also been drawing some inexplicable and undeserved Talkback hate on here lately, since SNL. P.S. mrfans: thanks, and you should definitely be on the lookout for one. It's the perfect compliment to a good comic collection..
Re-read Byrne's Comment - In (urgh) defense of Byrne by Squashua	Oct 17th, 2007 02:39:37 PM
And take it with a grain of salt before dismissing it. I can't stand the man's art or his attitudes, and I loved the old Captain Carrot books, but the man has a point. When you have a DC Universe with a book as logical as Checkmate, and yet it can co-exist with an alternate universe like Earth-C, we actually have the possibility of them crossing over. And when one of them is taken seriously and the other is not, then there is incongruity. Byrne is correct in that a world such as Earth-C might not have someone named Pig-Iron or Alley-Kat Abra due to those names being impractical for the situation. Byrne is correct in that a world that would be parallel and 100% canon and in-continuity with the primary DC Universe is actually not fitting. Earth-C would need to be re-scaled properly to be less... silly. The puns could be there, the characters could be there, but it would need a tad more realism. The same argument could NOT, IMHO, be made for Spider-Ham, which exists (to my knowledge) exclusive to the Earth-616/Marvel continuity.
FF - well, since you asked... by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 17th, 2007 02:43:24 PM
Incidentally, that one line of Reeds to Pym WAS classic, and really the only thing I think of where Reed wasn't relegated to the back seat. But lets take #549. For the first six pages, the FF are under attack, and Panther is on point. Fine, Klaw is a Panther villain (what are the odds? The Wizard brings the one villain that Panther has defeated dozens of times?) But Reed has not ONE word of dialog, no input, no directions of any sort. Then he gets to introduce his wife. Now THAT was a great sequence, sincerely. I love it when Sue gets a chance to flex her considerable muscle. (And that sequence is why I DO like McDuffie as a writer.) After that, its a race to find the Contraceptives, or whatever they're called. And at this point, Reed is essentially reduced the the role of team science geek. Panther takes care of the subdued badguys. Reed says nothing. They fall out of hyperspace, and Panther gives a theory. Reed concurs. Panther decides what they should do next. Reed concurs. Some general science speak. Panther asks if Reed can navigate. Reed concurs, and Panther gives him a "That'll do, pig...I mean, Reed." Reed is able to analyze the situation, but can't communicate it. But the Panther man can! Good thing Panther is around to make up for Reed's shortcomings. Finally, Panther asks for some input, but Reed doesn't have any ideas yet, so it's back to team science-geek, able to at least give the countdown to Armageddon. But clearly, this is the Panther's show. I'm not saying its bad writing. Not at all. And I absolutely LOVE most of the Duffsters work. I'm just thinking that Reed is a better leader than is being portrayed, and I think the agenda is to make Panther look like an A-lister: face it, Panther has never been the go-to guy for anything other than vibranium. It could be argued that as ego-less as Reed is, he has simply decided to let Panther lead and Reed will step in when needed. But wouldn't it be wonderful to get clued in to some of Reeds internal dialog, instead of having him look like a wuss when a more charismatic leader walks into the room and commands his own team? Anyway, that's my take. I'm not saying Panther is not a great character or a great leader or a Silver-Surfer-headlockin' butt-kicker. I'm just saying that I think Reed has been painted deliberately weaker in order to make Panther look better.
I see where you're coming from, Rock-me... by stones_throw	Oct 17th, 2007 03:06:43 PM
...but to me it just feels right for the characters - Reed is technically the leader of the FF but not so much in a giving orders kind of way, while as the King of Wakanda the Panther would be used to being in charge. Plus it's not like he's not a gifted scientist or leader. This feels a lot more "right" than if the Panther were following orders from the FF. I can see them viewing eachother as friends and equals, but the Panther just has a slightly more forceful personality. I really don't think it's question of competition. Reed's perfectly content with ol' T'Challa.
NO GLOVES ON CAPTAIN CARROT!!! by superhero	Oct 17th, 2007 03:18:31 PM
GET RID OF THE GLOVES DAMMIT!!!
John Byrne, you are wrong, sir. WRONG! by MC Vamp	Oct 17th, 2007 04:02:13 PM
Calling something ridiculous just because it's more ridiculous than something else that is less ridiculous but still really ridiculous is ridiculous! Captain Carrot can't exists a a "multiverse" because of this and that, but hey, this guy over can fly because the sun's a different color and people still use cell phones and radios and standard firearms even though the Earth has run into a thousand different alien races with advanced technology thousands of years beyond ours and whupped all their asses to boot. Not to mention that we have access to time travel and that none of the thirty-six villains who know Batman's secret identity haven't just gone back in time and either saved his parents or whacked the little kid to complete the Wayne trifecta. Friggin HI-larious.
Seriously... by MC Vamp	Oct 17th, 2007 04:10:27 PM
Frinstance, in DC, if a red sun person goes to a yellow sun and gets superpowers, how come nothing happens to a yellow sun person who goes to a red sun? You'd think either they'd get super-powers or super-cancer, but it would be something, wouldn't it? Don't even get me started on religion in the Marvel Universe when Asgard appears over the Earth every ten years or so and Thor, Ares, and Hercules regularly stroll around Manhattan. If Marvel introduced Jesus Christ as an Avenger...well, let's just say it...it would be fucking awesome. And I think I've just given someone a free idea for a comic book story. Just mention my name somewhere and we're good.
I'm Wanted For Spinner Rack Theft by Buzz Maverik	Oct 17th, 2007 04:19:03 PM
No matter how much money a comic book kid gets, they can never afford all the comics they want. I think that's part of why kids don't read comics as much today. After I spent my allowance and whatever I could earn without doing anything, I had to resort to shop lifting. Then, when I was about to enter 6th grade my school closed down and I got bussed to this cool new school in a tough neighborhood. The first day I noticed this huge, terrifying looking guy with all these toadie types around him. He had a big pile of comics that he was into and the Toadies would say things like, "That guy looks bad..." But when I walked up and knew it was Power Man and asked him if he had the one where he first fought Stilleto and Discus or the original Power Man, we became friends. It turned out that this guy was an even bigger shoplifter than I was. He was so cool he shoplifted almost ALL his comics. Today, they'd say we bonded ... over our mutal love of graphic art and taking it without paying. My new best friend was such a great shoplifter that he could even steal donuts from behind the counter at the donut shop, which was the most amazing thing I've seen to this day. Anyway, he tells me about this place in the next town that's in an even worse neighborhood than his, which makes it twice as bad as mine. It's a news stand, which they really didn't have in So Cal. He's got a friend, a guy in junior high, that's also into comics and theft. We're gonna hit the newsstand Saturday. I can honestly say that I didn't feel any peer pressure when I said, "Cool, what time?" So, I go to my buddy's house Saturday morning and this guy pulls up in the crappiest car I've ever seen, but it's cool because he's only in the 8th grade and the car belongs to his Mom's boyfriend. It seemed like the guy drove on the wrong side of the road the whole way, but we made it to the news stand. By that time, I'm in on the plan: we're not just stuffing comics down our boxers this time. We're taking the whole rack. They have too racks, but we agree that getting greedy would be stupid. My buddy and I jump out. The racks are on the sidewalk, btw, which was stupid and not chained down which was even stupider. Our driver must have grown up to be a Marine Corps D.I. because he starts shouting at us to MOVE IT! MOVE IT! and called us a bunch of names I hadn't heard before. We hustle the rack into the back seat, only spilling a few books. My buddy jumps in the front seat, I jump in the back, on top of the rack. It's an uncomfortable ride but I get to select a few choice issues (I still have that copy of X-MEN # 109:"Recognize me, Weapon X? James McDonald Hudson at your service. But these days, you can call me....WEAPON ALPHA!"). We split up the comics fairly equally, in order of who can kick who's butt (good thing I rode on the rack so I got a fairer share!). I wanted to keep the spinner rack itself but Ma & Pa Maverik would have wondered where I got it. My buddy sold it to another friend of ours. Don't tell IAD, but my friend grew up to be a California Highway Patrolman and probably had to lie in his job interview about committing crimes.
Waitasec, Buzz... by Thalya	Oct 17th, 2007 04:46:04 PM
Is that adjectiveless X-Men or Uncanny X-Men you mention there?
Buzz by Dingbatty	Oct 17th, 2007 04:55:46 PM
Crazy story. Write a screenplay. Now people just grab scans of all of them on the web.
Buzz, by mrfan	Oct 17th, 2007 05:15:15 PM
Another great spinner rack story. LOVE IT!!!
Thalya, That Comic Is So Old That It Was Called... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 17th, 2007 05:15:52 PM
...ALL NEW! ALL DIFFERENT X-MEN! It was Byrne's second issue on the book, after wrapping up the first Shi'ar story began by Dave Cockrum. Tony DeZungia did what Stan would call "a bang up job" in a fill in where Warhawk locked the Xers in the Danger Room. (SPOILER ALERT: It turned out that Warhawk was working for the Hellfire Club, who were just starting to investigate Xavier's School For Gifted Youngsters). Then, Byrne returned with this story which introduced the future Vidicator/Guardian and lead to Alpha Flight.
Novels, Dingbatty... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 17th, 2007 05:17:19 PM
Novels are where it's at, man.
Novels... by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 17th, 2007 05:40:48 PM
As an official novel writer, I can tell you, the pickin's is slim there, too, unless your last name is Gaimen or Meltzer or...well, everyone has to pay their dues. But anyone who want to put .47 cents into my pocket can hit me up on Amazon.
BTW: spinner theft. by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 17th, 2007 05:44:32 PM
GREAT story! I got busted when I was 11 and wound up having to pay not only for the 2 comics I tried to pinch, but for the one comic book I had legitimately purchased down the street. That was the end of my criminal career. No one's making a movie out of that.
Anyone interested in the Byrne/Carrot screencaps... by Prof Challenger	Oct 17th, 2007 05:59:12 PM
from before he decided to Stalin-istically try to delete the thread out of existence can send the Prof a friendly email requesting them and I'll happily pass them along. It's five jpegs courtesy of Google that I got by running a search for "Byrnerobotics" and "Capt. Carrot" :)
nice... by blackthought	Oct 17th, 2007 06:03:15 PM
to see this place lively at the moment. may it continue.
The Umbrella Academy by princess Zombielicious	Oct 17th, 2007 07:05:46 PM
Great interview Bug!
Is it time for Buzz's spinner rack story again? by rev_skarekroe	Oct 17th, 2007 09:21:41 PM
It's like watching the Superbowl with Grandpa. "Football, eh? Did I ever tell you kids about the time I made the winning touchdown my senior year with a broken leg?"
Aw c'mon, Rev. Skarekroe! by SleazyG.	Oct 17th, 2007 09:27:47 PM
That's like complaining cuz The Hulk fought The Abomination again--"awww man, I've seen this fight like four times!" Well, maybe you have, but for all of the readers who jumped on board more recently, well, it's a great new story! Frankly, I wish Buzz would tell the story more, but add a coupla details every time, embellishing more and more until there are helicopter explosions and mexican standoffs on the way home with the entire news stand in the back of an El Camino.
OtisSpofford they did bring that krypton back by messi	Oct 18th, 2007 03:35:12 AM
in Birthright(which was a great thing by the way) and then changed it to a more movie version. Lame. I'm liking Smallville's one the best which is a mix of both especially Jor-El's comments of "sunsets lasting for hours".
Byrne's funniest comment ever is by messi	Oct 18th, 2007 03:36:56 AM
how he refuses to watch spider-man because of the organic webs since he doesn't want to participate in projects that don't respect a character by changing him. I'm here thinking? What the fuck? You changed Superman, like changed him, not even in the organic webbing level but changed the whole character and his world. I mean I like it but your logic in the argument is fucking stupid.
Wowzers, Buzz.. by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 08:21:50 AM
That's prime stealing material right there. 'Cause I was thinking, if it was adjectiveless, then that would've been during the mid-90s, and you were still in high school and you really wanted to steal that and whadahuh?
Nah, Thalya, The '70s ... The Mid-70s... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 10:41:17 AM
...and I was in elementary school.
Hey, Rev, Did I Ever Tell You About The Time I Stole A Spinner R by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 10:43:21 AM
...full of comics. Bless me, father, it's been 17 posts since my last confession.
I'm just laughing at the image... by stones_throw	Oct 18th, 2007 11:22:43 AM
...of a like 30 year old Buzz running away with a spinner rack full of 90s X-MEN comics.
Sleazy G Produces Michael Bay's SPINNER RACK by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 11:29:09 AM
Based on a crime by Buzz Maverik. "They had until curfew to pull off the perfect crime. Three men ... well, future men ... pefect strangers...except two of them were in the same home room and the other was one of those vague figures of menace around town...one objective: comic books! And the only thing standing in their way was a complete lack of judgement...and common sense...and the fact that the driver really didn't know how to drive and was 14 years old and looked about 11...From Michael Bay, director of explosions and chases and crashes: SPINNER RACK!" "Spinning to a theater near you Summer '08!"
BTW Screenwriters Strike Looming! U Know What That Means! by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 11:35:41 AM
Job opportunities with Buzz Maverik's Strike Breaking Goons! Are you big, mean, cruel or desperate? Are you sick of lousy movies and willing to wail on the hacks who "wrote" them with truncheons? You may be qualified to help break this strike for the fine people who run the studios that bring us excellent, wholesome entertainment. Send your resumes to Buzz Maverik's Strike Breaking Goons! Remember, nobody beats a Buzz Maverik Goon beatin'!
Also, Hiring at Buzz Maverik's... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 11:40:34 AM
...Screenwriting Scabs! Have you ever wanted to be a Hollywood writer or just get paid like one? Do you ever have dreams that would make good movies even though yer friends walk away when yer telling about 'em? Have you ever seen a movie and thought,"Who writes this garbage?" Well, it could be you! Remember, nobody peels off a Buzz Maverik Screenwriting Scab!
John Byrne Is A Good Man by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 11:43:32 AM
Ah, the coronaries! The spit takes! Remember, kids, punk isn't just music. It's a lifestyle!
Rob Liefeld Is A Gifted Artist by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 11:50:11 AM
My work is done!
Spinner Racks by steverodgers	Oct 18th, 2007 12:33:03 PM
My wife bought me a spinner rack at an antique shop. It is just about the greatest thing ever. I love sticking the new comics I buy in there. It’s like having a mini Caldor in my living room. This btw is another reason why you don’t need to retcon mary jane, who knows maybe she was going to buy peter a cool spinner rack with the “hey kids comics” at the top – but now she’ll never get the chance. Nice job Quesada. Bendis sucks. Thank you
Ok, I can't wait.. by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 12:37:37 PM
Anyone get comics yesterday, Birds of Prey in particular? I'm going nuts over it.. (but no more crazed TB outbursts, I can promise you that!)
Runaways & Michael Ryan by Shigeru	Oct 18th, 2007 01:01:36 PM
Really enjoyed this latest issue. Loved the pretty seamless interweaving of the stories and it allowed each nugget to be really poignant (Vic & flying chick [fuck forget her name] in particular) But your review didn't mention Michael Ryan who with this issue REALLY stepped it up and delivered art so good that I pretty much stopped thinking about missing Alphona so much whilst reading. Bravo.
THEY KILLED BIG BARDA! by messi	Oct 18th, 2007 01:15:32 PM
Take that DC.
Bad messi! Bad! by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 01:18:52 PM

Spoilers, dude! by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 02:07:03 PM
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eh. With a name like "Death of the New Gods", it had to happen sometime.
Hey Squash, you busy? by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 02:26:51 PM
But more importantly, did you pick up comics this week yet? My head's gonna 'splode unless I can find someone who had the same reaction I did..
I fucking hate the New Gods. by SleazyG.	Oct 18th, 2007 02:32:00 PM
Ironically, this means I'm extremely tempted to spend my money on DEATH OF THE NEW GODS, because watching them die holds a certain appeal.
...or can, at least, y'know, say.. by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 02:38:51 PM
"I can see your point and it's not invalid." Oh the woes of not having internet at home..
So is Death the Black Racer in this series? by rev_skarekroe	Oct 18th, 2007 02:41:07 PM
Kirby came up with some silly concepts (Silver Surfer is iconic, but let's face it, he's also ridiculous) but Death the Black Racer takes the cake. He's the personification of death - as a cross-country skier?
Meet the New Gods...same as the Old Gods... by MC Vamp	Oct 18th, 2007 02:41:09 PM
On the Darkseid, whoaa yeah...on the Darrrkseid, whoaa yeah yeah...--- I've got Big Barda, I've got Big Barda...and they're such Big Barda, dirty Big Barda. And he's got Big Barda, and she's got Big Barda, but we've got the Biggest Barda of the all!
Yo, Squashua! by stones_throw	Oct 18th, 2007 02:50:13 PM
Bendis Board thread on Comics4Halloween: http://tin yurl.com/3cr3hj
Thanks, Stones! by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:18:41 PM
I was trying to post there, but I can't find my old account registration and just gave up. I hit CBR, Newsarama, IGN and even Penny Arcade. Thanks for getting the word out; hit up those bloggers too. I've smacked a few of them with some e-mails, but haven't received much in the way of responses.
Thalya... Mutual Comicreading by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:24:34 PM
Got to say, I really enjoyed Birds of Prey, but I think Calculator came off as way too young. Might have been the art. At least the story could stand alone. Both Justice League and Mighty Avengers had absolutely no content to them. I am so sick of decompression in lead titles. Brave/Bold - Power Girl came off as a bit more dumb and pigheaded than usual. No JSA leader in that book. Powers was good, but barely advanced the plot. Checkmate was an interesting read. New Gods had a good recap of the concept and didn't seem to leave anyone out. Ex Machina didn't go anywhere, even when it went to Rome. Marvel Zombies II - didn't do much for me b/c I felt like I read the entire issue already via the free online previews. I wish they'd stop giving away more than 4 pages.
Plus (re: Death of the New Gods - for Rev Skarekroe) by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:27:14 PM
Black Racer is permanently taken out within the first few pages. I think the killer is the Infinite Man or whatever the Forever People "Taruu" dude is.
tackles Squashua!!!!! by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 03:30:10 PM
Thankyouthankyouthankyouthanky outhankyou! That aspect was completely forced for me and took me out of the book. And I don't think the story itself could work if he was his regular age, not unless DC wanted to skieve some readers. But further deets on Wednesday. Now I just have to wait for the weekend to get back to my regular shop to pick up my pulls save BoP.
Stones - extra help needed by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:31:42 PM
Stones, if you can toss up the link to the ComicSpace page http://tinyurl.com/23lyk2 into that thread, I'd be grateful. Also, I'm a little ticked at this guy: http://tinyurl.com/yt83w8 I sent him a private press release a couple days early b/c he had a similar concept going last year, and he just up and took my info and made it his own without a link-back to the ComicSpace page. :(
I didn't start the thread... by stones_throw	Oct 18th, 2007 03:31:49 PM
...just noticed it. But it's all good.
Well, with Calculator... by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:36:44 PM
... you can't do a "Geek Squad" thing without him being younger, at least if the commercials are to be believed. I don't see why he had to be all dressed up for the event; I never have to dress in any special manner for a computer convention. In fact, unless you're a costumer, it's best to stay out of the public eye. To me, it was definitely the artist, as I kept thinking it was a good thing Babs was restricted to the wheelchair, otherwise her boobs might prevent her from standing up properly.
I dunno... by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 03:49:08 PM
How much would the script have called for the Geek Squad accoutrements to be there, judging by the first few pages? And for that matter, how would those quasi-romantic touches in the captions have gone over with a 40 or 50-something Calc? I think the character model was there to suit the story.
Regarding the Geek Squad materials by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:52:09 PM
They weren't really used in the context of the story, so in the end they felt 100% unnecessary, even the car. All he really needed was the opposable digit. I guess he just got into his role. Either way, it was a good standalone, one sorely needed in an ocean of long-dragging plots that are so decompressed, each issue is simply half of a fight scene.
And the Romance thing? by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 03:53:20 PM
late 20-ish/early 30-ish Babs could have easily flirted with a late 30-ish, early 40-ish Calculator with no problem.
Hmmm... by Thalya	Oct 18th, 2007 04:22:07 PM

"But, Buzz," you say, "I'm a geek and not goon material." by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 04:27:21 PM
That's where you're wrong and why I'm recruiting here. Geeks have a lot of anger against society, and what better way to take it out than against striking screenwriters for big studio secret money? Also, lots of geeks are into martial arts because they've been deservedly beaten up for being geeks and need to defend themselves. Why, I remember one time at a party in high school where I met this girl from another school and was doing pretty good for a change (because she didn't know me so I didn't have to be myself)and she asked if I knew this guy at my school who wore those kind of jeans made for karate kickin' (you wear the jeans when you kick, you don't kick the jeans). The guy was one of my best friends. But being smart and in hormonal overdrive, I quickly said, "Yeah. What a geek! He even reads comic books! I make fun of him every day!" The moral of this story is that geeks do know more karate than screenwriters, which is why we, here at Buzz Maverik's Strike Breaking Goons, not only don't discriminate against the Realistically Challenged, we embrace you! You too can have a career in violence and oppression! Why stick it to the Man when the Man will pay you big bucks to stick it to the guys sticking it to the Man?
They Should Retcon MJ By Watching TRUE ROMANCE by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 04:35:39 PM
Pattern her after Alabama Worley, as played by Patricia Arquette and written by Quentin Tarantino, minus the violence and prostitution. She was obviously Tarantino/Clarence's dream girl, who would watch three Kung Fu flicks with him, be charmed by a trip to the comic shop and a SGT. FURY issue as a gift, then have sex. The geek's hot dream girl. What they need to retcon, as I've said before here, is Mary Jane's supermodeling. MJ should have never modeled at that level. She should simply be the girl who is out of Pete's league but has always seen the Spider-Man side of him, even before she knew he was Spidey. Just as Clarence's romance with Alabama unleashed his inner badass, Pete's relationship with MJ helps him integrate the two sides of his nature. It's also something we geeks can relate to. I mean, if you're a geek and lucky enough to have a woman who doesn't mind, odds are she's way hotter than you, right?
So, did making fun of your friend get you laid, Buzz? by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 04:41:17 PM
Inquiring minds and all that.
OK, Wiseguys, Bored With The Spinner Theft Story? Howzabout... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 04:41:19 PM
...the time I knocked over Fort Knox. I had twenty highly trained mercs in head-to-toe black body armor, a chick in a white jumpsuit who karate kicked secret agents, the guy on the computer who kept saying,"Rerouting satellites isn't like ordering fron Netflix, ya know", two hulking film geek bodyguards called Ebert & Siskel, a futuristic laser cannon and an escape plan so transparent that you know the screenwriters ran out of cool ideas by that point...
BTW, The Reason I Can Talk About The Fort Knox Job... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 04:44:02 PM
...without fear of arrest is that I was captured by a covert government organization. In exchange for retrieving a deadly cannister called The Maguffin, I was given complete amnesty for myself and my crew. We went into witness protection with new identities as comic book afficanados.
No, Squash... by Buzz Maverik	Oct 18th, 2007 04:45:11 PM
...she dumped me for this other guy who was much better at faking cool than I was.
Buzz by Squashua	Oct 18th, 2007 05:12:31 PM
that's what you get. Witness protection and new identities and all that, I mean.
When you make the "Spinner Rack" movie, cast the store owner as. by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 18th, 2007 10:01:54 PM
...that android guy from Star Trek: Next Generation. What was his name...? I liked the stand alone BoP, and I would have liked to see them hang out, you know like "You've got Mail" meets "Mr. and Mrs. Smith." Ah well... as far as Mighty Avengers goes, my expectations were so low, I was actually surprised that I liked it. Not without flaws, however.
Umbrella Academy by Bluejack	Oct 19th, 2007 08:32:21 AM
I bought 1+2 yesterday and they were the highlight of the week (besides Bru's C.A.). LoEG meets X-Men meets Power Pack meets Tim Burton. Also: Is "C.A.: The Chosen" in continuity? I know it's Marvel Knights so I doubt it, but making the new C.A. a soldier from Iraq would be very interesting.
Gggghh!!!! by Thalya	Oct 19th, 2007 08:32:40 AM
rock-me, points Look at that walrus attacking those schoolchildren! readies sledgehammer muckingfudgin..rabble rabble blasphemer...
what the hell is Omega the Unknown doing at mainstream Marvel? by Shigeru	Oct 19th, 2007 12:39:29 PM
seriously
& Rev, I Did Make A Winning Touchdown With A Broken Leg by Buzz Maverik	Oct 19th, 2007 02:17:37 PM
Spiked it and everything. Then, the stupid refs blew the whistle and said that I had to cross the goal line with a regulation football and that someone's severed limb didn't count. Still, it's a tale I like to share each Superbowl Sunday.
Comic theft... by loodabagel	Oct 19th, 2007 02:55:46 PM
Older comics were packaged in bags by some asshole who liked to sell his old stuff at the store. Seeing an issue of X-Men that never came within my grasp, I concluded the guy had bought up all the copies himself so he could better piss me off. Anyway, a bag with one comic in it became a bag with four comics in it (old and new, my money was thin) and the guy at the counter had no idea what went down. Louie-1. Old Comic Collector Trying to Make ends meet-0.
If Rock-Me's Marrage is still interesting after 17 years. by Smerdyakov	Oct 20th, 2007 07:30:55 AM
He must be married to a pole dancer.
Nah, he's probably a swinger by TallBoy66	Oct 21st, 2007 02:11:10 PM
"Hey, baby, you go fuck that big stud while I watch. Mmmmhmmmm."
Yes, well... by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 22nd, 2007 08:56:32 AM
I'll never tell. But if you knew how good I have it, you would cry.
But for the sake of clarification: by rock-me Amodeo	Oct 22nd, 2007 09:39:35 AM
Swinger = disgusting. Pass.

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