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Hercules Says CAVEMEN No Longer Worst Thing Ever!!

First by Darth_BaIIs	Oct 16th, 2007 02:50:11 AM
First post and I'm first!! I'm cool!
Second(ly) by Darth_BaIIs	Oct 16th, 2007 02:51:31 AM
This show still blows
Kim Director by Boondock Devil	Oct 16th, 2007 02:54:11 AM
She was hot as hell when she was all gothy in Blair Witch 2 (ugh..). Awesome eyes.
So its the Second... by TitsMcgee	Oct 16th, 2007 03:06:12 AM
worst thing on TV now right behind Smallville?
Yes, it really is terrible. by Dragulf	Oct 16th, 2007 03:25:44 AM
Shame on all who are involved in making this pile of feces.
Gravitas! by Darth Fabulous	Oct 16th, 2007 03:52:36 AM
This shit is horrible...
I just saved a bunch of brain cells by switching this shit off. by Det. John Kimble	Oct 16th, 2007 04:05:27 AM
Is Kim Director related to Kim Possible?
I just got off the phone with Jim Belushi... by Uncle Stan	Oct 16th, 2007 05:25:54 AM
So you are saying that According to Jim and Reba are better than Cavemen?
If this isn't the worst thing ever.... by Yeti	Oct 16th, 2007 06:24:26 AM
Then what is the first? And should I be afraid to look?
Cancelled in... by Dazzler69	Oct 16th, 2007 06:46:09 AM
Three...two...one....
Herc!! Nooo!!! by BizarroJerry	Oct 16th, 2007 07:08:32 AM
Don't encourage them!!
Why is this show Cool News? by KillDozer	Oct 16th, 2007 07:16:44 AM

even as a novelty? by MurderMostFowl	Oct 16th, 2007 07:25:24 AM
I have only watched one episode, and I didn't think it was very good, but shouldn't we show it a little love? I can easily name a dozen sitcoms worse than this that made it more than one season. I'm not saying it' good... I'm just saying, there's far worse out there past and present.
The way it was phrased... by Darkman	Oct 16th, 2007 07:33:48 AM
...it sounded like the show was a) cancelled or b) outdone by an even worse concept. Kim Director... To the person who mentioned BLAIR WITCH 2, I'll see that and raise you INSIDE MAN. What a fox.
So we get a Caveman talkback instead of----- by batjac	Oct 16th, 2007 07:55:47 AM
Ghost whisperer, moonlight, smallville, supernatural-----I'd take a talkback on THE UNIT for God's sake! Ridiculous. But to stay on topic--the worst show on TV (based on the crazy amount of hype) Pushing Daisies. Bye Bye. Thanks for playing.
I liked this show better as "Beer Bad" from Buffy. by AnimeJune	Oct 16th, 2007 08:34:03 AM

by Omar B	Oct 16th, 2007 08:50:52 AM
I'm holding out hope for it to get better, it's Cavemen on TV dammit!
Translation of this post by chrth	Oct 16th, 2007 08:57:16 AM
"ABC just gave me $$$$ to post a Caveman talkback"
Cavemen is just "ALF" for the 21st century... by Abin Sur	Oct 16th, 2007 09:19:37 AM
I'm glad Herc is keeping me up-to-date on the Cavemen goings-on...God knows I'LL never watch it.
Remember Leon? by grampageezer	Oct 16th, 2007 09:24:22 AM
If they were going to take a commercial and turn it itto a weekly series, I wish they would've done that with those spots from a few years back.about the egotistical, but inept football athelete. I don't remember the product it was hawking, but I do remember the character's name was Leon. That could have been a hilarious, original show commenting about professional sports and the egos involved.
Should've moved the locale to New Orleans by Blood T Cat	Oct 16th, 2007 09:26:23 AM
then the caveman could've been noble, suffering but very proud people. The kind of people who would rebuild a crime filled hellhole because it's their "home" and it's all they got. Spouting lines like "we're cavemen, we shouldn't have to live in trailers like white trash, damn it."
Herc just saved alot of time by switching to sucking ABC's cock! by askholia	Oct 16th, 2007 09:26:37 AM
Seriously, can you deplete your credibility anymore Herc? Why not just advocate us watching Moonlight or even better the woman's murder club...oh wait, you did that already...you my friend are a total louse.
sad show by jccalhoun	Oct 16th, 2007 09:33:41 AM
I think the worst thing about Cavemen isn't that it is horrible and unfunny but that in both of the episodes that have been aired the basic plot is: "One of the cavemen thinks someone is bigoted and doesn't like cavemen. Then it turns out that the caveman was wrong and overreacting." So the basic message of the series is that bigotry doesn't exist and if you think someone is prejudiced you are overreacting.
Kim Director by TheBaxter	Oct 16th, 2007 11:15:56 AM
this woman would make a perfect Wonder Woman
That seals the deal then. This show MUST suck. by Immortal_Fish	Oct 16th, 2007 11:39:26 AM
If Herc likes it, then it has to be awful. Glad I never wasted any time on it.
heh by wash	Oct 16th, 2007 12:09:14 PM
I could mention the shows you should be watching instead Herc. But why bother? I'm not going to pay you to talk about them.
askholia by wash	Oct 16th, 2007 12:21:04 PM
Whoa, Moonlighting was a good show. You can think of way better examples than that. Like "Ow My Balls!" or something, I'm sure Future Herc will be all over that one (It's got electrolytes).
worst teevee shows (counting "in syndication") by Dollar Bird	Oct 16th, 2007 12:40:47 PM
In no particular order... (I should add the caveat "That I've Seen") 1) Still Standing 2) One On One 3) CSI Miami ... I have never seen Caveman, nor do I plan on it. Actually, I don't watch a whole lot of tv, now that I think about it. C'mon you tube-heads, add to the list!
askholia, Moonlight, not Moonlighting by Big Jim	Oct 16th, 2007 12:40:58 PM
First episode of Cavemen was bad, but it did have the "keep you penis in your genus" line so it had one laugh. That's one more than last week's episode. The plots are sterotypical sitcom plots. What next, one caveman, in order to get a promotion at work, invites his boss over for dinner but forgets to tell the other cavemen? I'm surprised there isn't a Mr Roper on the show "you can live here just as long as you are not cavemen", "we're not cavemen, just hairy guys". How long before one of the cavemen's cousin Oliver comes to live with them? I'll probably record tonight's episode and watch it when I have time. But it will need to be great in order to get me to change my mind about how horrible a show I have found it to be. And it will need to continue to be that good. One funny episode alone does not make up for all the bad ones. A funny series can be excused the occasional dud; the occasional funny episode in an otherwise unfunny series does not make that series any more worthwhile.
So Herc.. by skimn	Oct 16th, 2007 12:49:44 PM
..what IS the worst thing ever? If not Cavemen? DollarBird, any MTV reality series. I know they're not "scripted", but they make me sad for humanity as a whole.
Why... by The Moseph	Oct 16th, 2007 12:50:45 PM
God, I don't understand why anyone would find this pathetic drivel remotely interesting. I mean some bigwig somewhere had to be thinking ya know, there's a lot of stupid people out there...just look at all the garbage they watch, eat and drink...and these caveman commercials by Geico are really bottom of the barrel...I'll bet we could make a series with the same premise and make a killing! Just like "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?"...insulting.
I meant to say "Wash, Moonlight, not Moonlighting" by Big Jim	Oct 16th, 2007 12:52:35 PM
Since that is your name, and not Askholia, to whom you were responding.
Bigotry by Gislef_crow	Oct 16th, 2007 01:12:26 PM
The plot of last week's show was that there was bigotry. And that the person who got fired tried to make it about bigotry when they were just incompetent. So it's skewering the bigots and the "I'm a victim" types. The problem is the show's pretty uneven and not sure where they want to go. Like last week, the first part is pretty standard sitcom junk. Then they get into the bigotry angle, and some slapstick, and some just general cut-loose comedy. Suddenly they're talking about dancing bears stealing pies ("I think you mean hobos.") Carlos Jacott isn't too bad, but don't know if he's sticking around. I got a snicker or two out of it, and it's better then Carpoolers.
Dollar Bird by Bob Dobbs	Oct 16th, 2007 01:17:39 PM
You forgot to mention Veronica Mars.
This sounds so, so awful... by yesiamaplant	Oct 16th, 2007 01:46:41 PM
It would make by body seize, and wrack with pain down to it's very core to find myself actually liking this, so I will not, can not watch it. That's a really petty reason not to watch something, but those Geico commercials are so patently offensive to my taste as a consumer whore, that I won't even give this thing an opportunity to endear itself to me. Its too frightening a prospect.
Caveman was NEVER the worst thing ever by slone13	Oct 16th, 2007 02:08:28 PM
As a few of the more level headed people that post on this site have mentioned, there are PLENTY of television shows (both current and old) that are far worse than Caveman could ever be. I know it's hip and cool to rag on Caveman and call it the worst show in history, but the simple fact of the matter is that it doesn't come close. Rest assured, there has been, and will continue to be, much more awful television programs in the history of bad TV. Please find something else to complain about. WHat about remakes? People don't seem to complain enough about all the movie remakes being produced...
the hobo bear dance by Blood T Cat	Oct 16th, 2007 02:20:08 PM
it has some moments, far from the end of television that the hipsters claim it to be. Better than current sitcoms really.
I'm with TheBaxter by Dr. Butthole	Oct 16th, 2007 02:45:42 PM
Kim Director = Wonder Woman. Look at those eyes and that hair! She's fantastic! (Settle down... settle down... can't reveal too much of your nerd crush...)
Better idea than cavemen... by Richard Cranium	Oct 16th, 2007 03:01:05 PM
A bunch of Pirates trying to adjust to modern civilization. Pirates are way more bad ass than cavemen. This show (and the commericals that spawned it) are just a ripoff of Phil Hartman's brilliant 'Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer' character.
Journeyman by theycallmemrglass	Oct 16th, 2007 03:38:05 PM
Watch this series. I am shamelessly promoting this so the blasted network do not cancel a quality series. Sorry - but it is a cool series, better than Quantum Leap and the now decaying Heroes.
I agree about Journeyman by Big Jim	Oct 16th, 2007 03:58:08 PM
I thought it would be good, and it is better. They take the time to add little touches to the scenes in the past that make me love this show. They do more than just have the characters wearing period clothing. The entire scene on the airplane in the 70's was great; from the dude standing outside the can smoking (as was half the plane) to the slutty stewardesses in hot pants, the kid with the cap gun and the Evil Knievel doll, and the movie being "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes". It was during that scene that I went from liking the show to loving it.
Hannah Montana is the worst. I have a 4 year old and she even ha by Knobules	Oct 16th, 2007 04:32:48 PM
The Billy Ray whats his face and his daughter, who by far is the most obnoxious thing Disney ever coughed up. Have to be the worst.
Sorry. I'm Still not putting myself through this. by Larry of Arabia	Oct 16th, 2007 04:42:41 PM
It's just not worth it when I can spend time ripping out my spleen instead.
Do not diss Hannah Montana. by borisF	Oct 16th, 2007 04:54:08 PM
In four yoears she will be legal.
Kim Director looks deformed..... by UltraMeerkat	Oct 16th, 2007 05:28:14 PM
check her out in this pic http://tinyurl.com/38jrm2. Her head is totally out of proportion to her body. And a different colour.
Herc watches too much TV... by christian66	Oct 16th, 2007 05:46:37 PM
And here is the ulimate proof. "Me like CAVEMAN. Herc laugh now! HA HA HA!" Herc, save what's left of your IQ and turn it off. You can do it!
How come Journeyman isn't getting more heat? by Wed Vid Guy	Oct 16th, 2007 05:51:58 PM
That show is really finding its legs. Especially after the latest twist.
Small Wonder is ALL-TIME WORST by CarmillaVonDoom	Oct 16th, 2007 07:18:53 PM
Really, how can anyone, ever, top the hideousness of 'Small Wonder'? Nothing else even comes close. The pirate idea someone mentioned above would be hilarious, reminds me of Dodgeball.
I still want my Seinfeld spinoff by jah_kingdom	Oct 16th, 2007 07:48:10 PM
Why they never did a Jackie Chiles spin-off show I'll never know. That dude is hilarious. You coulda made fun of lawyers, had him bangin white chicks and have a show with a black dude who was the main character and not the funny friend sayin stereotypical ebonics. But seriously, there's so many good ideas out there, why start mining material from commercials.
Herc...Oh my God man.... by BetaRayBill07	Oct 16th, 2007 08:14:44 PM
I put myself through like 90 seconds of this. That cavewoman was not hot. Again...not hot. Thought maybe it was the return of Chyna. Ugh I'm gonna puke.
I thought Cavemen was the worst for about 5 minutes by Holodigm	Oct 16th, 2007 08:19:13 PM
Then Carpoolers started. That show is far far worse.
Mr Spork by Bramton1	Oct 16th, 2007 08:30:07 PM
Get out of my head! Terry Tate was my idea!
This show made me laugh out loud a few times. by Bungion Boy	Oct 16th, 2007 08:39:16 PM
But most of the time it was at lines that had nothing to do with the fact that they were cavemen. There are some really good comedic performances and some really funny one liners. I almost wish the show was just about three roommates. But I'm going to keep watching for a little while. It surprised me. I expected to hate it, but I remain intrigued.
I like Cavemen by Series7	Oct 16th, 2007 08:45:55 PM
and I don't care how knows it. (1) It has to be one of the cheapest shows ever made. (2) Compared to all other sitcomes out there (say for the alternative one such as Earl, 30 and Office and I say Scrubs with a bit of reserve) its at least watchable. Have you tried to watch 2 and 1/2 men?? or Big Bang Theory??? FUcking horrible. Samantha Cancelled? Plus cavemen moves real fast it feels like an adult swim show. Meaning it doesn't feel a need to fill the whole 30 (Big Bang Theory, seriously anyone dissing Cavemen has not seen that crap). Granted I have not sat through Carpool but it obviously sucks. The only other sitcom I can stand is Rules of Engagement and thats mainly because you can tell Patrick and Spade and just having a good time. Herc I may not agree with most of your TV choices but I'll keep watching Cavemen. Plus the show doesn't have a fucking laugh track (Big Bang god that show is horrible). I would enjoy Cavemen taking Scrubs spot on (Comedy NIGHT DONE RIGHT!!! HUH BOYS!). NOW if I could just put an end to those Bee Movie Shorts, and convince Jerry to just piss off with his money and not pollute our screens with a crappy Dreamworks Cartoon (Though Over the Hedge was much better then it had right to be) but you can tell Bee Movie is gonna fucking blow. Stick to stand up.
it's pretty funny by El Borak	Oct 16th, 2007 09:05:42 PM
i can't believe it either.
the worst show ever created by El Borak	Oct 16th, 2007 09:30:23 PM
has to be ........ SCRUBS! i hate that show so much it's blinding.
social security card by Shakes	Oct 16th, 2007 09:57:12 PM
the part where she punches his social security card had me laugh out loud
The aliens controlling Earth are conducting an experiment. by kabong	Oct 16th, 2007 11:17:25 PM
They want to determine the level of human tolerance for crap.
ironic by slkboxrman	Oct 16th, 2007 11:22:23 PM
the claims of wasted talkbacks, i remember the handfull of "dr.who" talkbacks....... now thats a waste.....not that this is any higher or lower than that
about Kim Director by GrndlWnderer	Oct 16th, 2007 11:26:12 PM
I could not remember why I knew her name, so I looked her up and looking at her pics ( cuz she be hot) I thought of something...she wouold make a mighty fine ( lookin' at least) WonderWoman. Now whether a good WonderWoman movie can be made...I don't know...but she certainly looks the part.
small wonder carmilla by Dollar Bird	Oct 16th, 2007 11:27:01 PM
Oh-ho! Small Wonder. Now that was a stinker. Actually, any of the syndicated to Saturday afternoons shows were pretty bad. I don't even know if anyone does that anymore, but when Small Wonder came on, I knew it was time to either go play outside or hit the vomitorium.
Bigotry and tonight's episode by Gislef_crow	Oct 17th, 2007 12:28:23 AM
Sorry, my point was above that you've got the store company that actually are bigots. Then you've got the employee who gets fired and claims it's because it's bigotry but it's really because he's incompetent. If they tried that with African-Americans or Hispanics they'd be boycotted in droves. So like Alien Nations, the disguised racism angle kinda works. As for tonight's, again it was kinda funny. No Carlos Jacott, no slapstick. I got some laughs out of it, and I hate half-hour sitcoms. Like someone else noted, it's more like Adult Swim then whatever CBS feel-good sitcom that network serves up. Or even Carpoolers immediately after.
"They are proving the hell out of it." by chromedome	Oct 17th, 2007 12:36:26 AM
that was a good line.... but I really can't see watching this every week, and I can't see it lasting even if I wanted to keep watching
I take back my campaign for Diora Baird for Wonder Woman.... by Kirbymanly	Oct 17th, 2007 01:22:53 AM
Albiet keep the campaign for Barbarella. I'm now with those you say Kim Director takes the part. Its genius. She actually LOOKS like the Alex Ross paintings. On top of that, she's hot as fresh apple pie in a window on a summer's day. I've always wondered why she doesn't get anything outside of Spike Lee movies (add Blair Witch)....
I can't believe you gave this show more than one episode by cornstalkwalker	Oct 17th, 2007 03:58:23 AM
I saw the pilot and immediately realized I didn't have enough time in my life to waste on this garbage.
The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfieffer by garofellatio	Oct 17th, 2007 06:36:11 AM
Sorry if I misspelled the name. When I worked at TV Guide in 1998, "The Secret Diary of Desmond Pfeiffer" was regarded as the most horrendous new show of the Fall season, talked about like Cavemen is now. But the worst pilot I saw there was Costello. My point is, the hiugh-profile crap always gets slagged but the truly awful oaffal slips under the radar. Something like Still Standing is far more hideous than anything like Cavemen could ever be. That said, I wish I;d known KIm Director was on it, I would have Tivo'd it. Oh, and Kim Director foe Wonder Woman? YES. I've only seen her in Blair Witch 2. Is she still voluptuous or has she coked her weight down?
If you are defending Cavemen... by askholia	Oct 17th, 2007 08:19:30 AM
Your right to vote in this country should be revoked immediately. You have proven, beyond a doubt, that you are not capable of making informed, rational decisions. Please shred your voter registration card and your penis so you can neither vote nor procreate. Thank you.
The writers of this show will end up in hell by MontyPigeon	Oct 17th, 2007 09:43:29 AM
That's the one good thing to come from the so called television show named Cavemen. As Bill Hicks would say "Keep on sucking that black jizz from Satans cock".
What the fuck, man? by bluebottle	Oct 17th, 2007 09:46:16 AM
That was awful. Lame, lame, lame. Hey, they're taking on racist stereotypes, but with cavemen, GET IT?! Herc, come on, you've got to be joking.
Hey I got an idea! Let's remake Seinfeld with Cavemen by Pipple	Oct 17th, 2007 09:50:16 AM
Studio: genius!!! let's do it!
wasted opportunity by BLWiseass	Oct 17th, 2007 10:17:18 AM
yes, I am calling a show based on Cavemen to be a wasted opportunity. It is only funny when the guy from the actual Geico commercials shows up. That guy is hilarious.
Tonto, Tarzan, and Caveman: The Series by Wed Vid Guy	Oct 17th, 2007 11:23:48 AM
Too bad Phil Hartman is dead.
If you are defending Cavemen... by christian66	Oct 17th, 2007 11:26:23 AM
...then you're not likely to vote anyway since reality or concern of a world outside TV has no bearing anyay.
one thing by Napoleon Park	Oct 17th, 2007 12:06:49 PM
Anyone who thinks Cavemen is the worst new show or the worst premise of the year hasn't stayed tuned to see Carpoolers.
Another thing by Napoleon Park	Oct 17th, 2007 12:07:37 PM
Cavewomen are large, striking, sexually voracious and violent. So the minority they're really targeting are Klingons?
I laughed by slone13	Oct 17th, 2007 12:29:11 PM
Fuck you if you didn't.
I didn't laugh by Gislef_crow	Oct 17th, 2007 12:35:43 PM
But I snickered a few times. Reaper is what gets the laughs out of me. ("Happy Halloween from You-Know-Who.") Then again, that's more then most sitcoms of the last 7 years get out of me.
I did laugh a few times by Big Jim	Oct 17th, 2007 12:59:29 PM
There is potential there, buried deep within the recycled plots and choppy pace. I don't know if Series7 is right in saying it is one of the cheapest shows ever made. I think ABC shelled-out big bucks to Geico in order to buy the rights to the characters and concept. Sure it's probably cheap to make each individual episode, but the pre-production costs were probably huge. Since it is only 1/2 hour and it probably won't last past Christmas, I may still record the episodes and watch when I have a spare 20 minutes now and again. But I honestly don't think this show has a chance of surviving the season.
Ok I watched it by TVguy4566	Oct 17th, 2007 02:43:03 PM
I was pretty bored. I didn't think it was horrible, but I don't think I will watch it again. Definitely not the worst show ever, but not enough to keep my interest either. I put it on the level as many of the other ABC comedies like According to Jim. I doubt I will go out of my way to Tivo it or watch it, but if it is on and nothing else is on I will watch in hopes for a chuckle or two. I don't know if that is a ringing endorsement, but it is far better than most of the reviews it has gotten.
Echoing what's above about Journeyman by TheNothing	Oct 17th, 2007 04:15:05 PM
Best new show this season, IMHO. Great story that keeps me guessing, the cast is awesome, and I totally agree about the little touches during all his travels. Very quality show that deserves to stick around. NBC is completely owning my Monday nights.
I've actually heard good things about this show by JoeSixPack	Oct 17th, 2007 06:03:44 PM
I might watch it on ABC.com
I Agree With Herc by barsoom44	Oct 17th, 2007 06:39:25 PM
Watched the first episode and it was easy to dismiss this show as crap. I couldn't edit my DVR listings quick enough to stop recording the second episode. Then comes this week and I hear my wife laughing her butt off from the family room. When I go to investigate, I found her watching the show and loving it. So decided to give it a shot. It was truly funny! I find it hard to believe that it could be the same writer(s) for both episodes as last weeks show was such a stinker. I will be watching next week and hopefully they can keep up the good writing.
Agreed, Herc! Last night's Cavemen should have been the premier by zillabeast	Oct 17th, 2007 09:45:02 PM
It was pretty goddamn good. I was pleasantly shocked.
any video addict by Napoleon Park	Oct 18th, 2007 05:27:37 PM
Any videophile with a good memory and a reference book could type up a list of shows worse then Cavemen so long you'd think it was a gray gabrial post. That's not a valid defense of Cavemen, though. Sturgeon's Law was right, 95% of everything IS crap.
Heather, The Yogurt Slinging Cavewoman by Napoleon Park	Oct 19th, 2007 04:31:12 PM
Now THAT would be a good title for a show. Cavewomen sling yogurt like monkeys slinging poo. So when are they going to do all the obvious "We invented the wheel, you know" type jokes? They don't even have a fireplace in their apartment to huddle around.

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