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RUMOR: More On That New DUNE Project We've Been Hearing About!! Studio?? Director??

first by bongo123	Oct 15th, 2007 10:18:19 AM
fucking woohoo, i think
damn dont ya hate givin into temptation like the rest of the ple by bongo123	Oct 15th, 2007 10:18:55 AM
now im officially a 'tard
The spice extends life... by StrokerX	Oct 15th, 2007 10:19:01 AM
Am i the only one who LOVES Lynch's Dune? The best is at the beginning with the chicks head floating in space and she like disappears like she's all done talking...and then just reappears and keeps talking. I dont know why but i found that highlarious.
You're right, it IS tempting to denounce this project... by tonagan	Oct 15th, 2007 10:20:10 AM
Then I remembered that people were denouncing Peter Jackson's version of Lord of the Rings ("they already tried an animated version and it failed!") Still, it's a tough call (especially if you hated LOTR).
What I'd rather see by EddieBlake	Oct 15th, 2007 10:21:08 AM
In all honesty, I felt like the Sci Fi Channel miniseries (both Dune and Children of Dune) did justice to the books they were based on. I would be much more interested in seeing versions of God Emperor and Chapterhouse Dune now to continue the sage unless they are going to start from whole cloth and adapt each book a la Harry Potter.
only if they keep Lynch's cool sonic weapons: MaaaaauuuuUUDDIB! by newc0253	Oct 15th, 2007 10:26:45 AM
seriously, i'd love to see someone do Dune well & sometimes watching Lynch's version you'd think it's almost there. But then you see Sting in his flying underpants and remember what a shitburger it was. Seriously, do we really need the heartbreak of another bad Dune adaptation?
I love Lynch's Dune by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 10:31:27 AM
and despite its faults I don't see any other version topping it. The music, cinematography and production design on Lynch's Dune are all first class and the cast is excellent. Berg won't do a better job than Lynch.
fucking franchises by PotSmokinAlien	Oct 15th, 2007 10:33:53 AM
these hack no talent shitheads saying they love the source material when they just want the payday that they all saw scruffy fat little man from down under get for not playing by the rules. well these shitheads have played by the rules! now they want their billions of dollars! let em have it hollywood, who cares that their hearts won't be in it and the movies they make will suck as a result.
Enough with this guy already... by yassoo	Oct 15th, 2007 10:35:40 AM
Why is he attached to everything??? I dont get it man.
Shit film, Shit tv series, shit videogames now and now we get a by Spacesheik	Oct 15th, 2007 10:36:44 AM
Great just great -- can we expect a cameo by Sting in diapers as well?
Hmmm...I don't know. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 15th, 2007 10:41:33 AM
Having not seen THE KINGDOM, I still remain neutral on Peter Berg's directoral prana-bindu skills. The rumor is interesting though.
Dune is kinda overrated... by Abominable Snowcone	Oct 15th, 2007 10:42:54 AM
I mean, Lynch's Dune bored the SHIT out of me...and it's a space movie! And I was 12! You know a space story ain't that good if it bores a pre-teen geek. Then again, I never bothered to try watching it again. Not sure I could take it. Isn't it about the House Harkonen? More like House of Kept-Me-Yawnin'
RE: "shit videogames" by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 15th, 2007 10:43:19 AM
Get out! Back in the day, the DUNE game for Sega Genesis owned your ass! It's all about that uber-micro, yo!
YAWN. by RetroActive	Oct 15th, 2007 10:45:05 AM

Merrick, your son is a genius! Knick knack paddywack indeed! by ScienceMan	Oct 15th, 2007 10:45:11 AM
Knick knack paddywack... hilarious. Made my day. If only Frank Herbert's son could have uttered those words several decades ago, maybe it would have taken the piss out of his father's writing. The original Dune series are the most humorless six books I've ever forced myself to read.
MST3K the Lynch version! by BrooseTheScharuk	Oct 15th, 2007 10:48:10 AM
I'd rather see a mockery of the transcendently goofy Lynch movie -- with its hilarious voiceover work, weirdly awkward reaction shots, and gay Toto guitar music -- than see someone else's failed attempt to turn the book into a piece of cinema. When it first came to theaters, a friend and I saw it after another friend raved about it, and we couldn't stop laughing and heckling. It's the kind of behaviour I've never exhibited in a movie theater before or since -- and I'm not usually into the whole "so-bad-it's-good" movie-going experience. It's a masterpiece of production and costume design, but the pace and tone are so leaden, it's like their kidding. It actually plays like some kind of spoof! I would love to enjoy this movie with the silhouettes of a guy and two robots at the bottom of the screen. And while you're at it, throw the Star Wars prequels in there too. Why can't big prestige studio movies like those get the royal pisstake treatment? (you don't have to anwer that: I know why)
Just what the world needs...yet another "Dune" by zacdilone	Oct 15th, 2007 10:50:09 AM
Give it up already. It didn't work with Agent Cooper, it didn't work with the Lost in Space dad...time to try something else.
If this news ACTUALIZES?!? by FreznoBob	Oct 15th, 2007 10:50:19 AM
Seriously? Is this news reading "I'm Ok, You're Ok?" Does it have a life coach? Is it a narcissistic character in a Woody Allen flick?
dogphart3000... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Oct 15th, 2007 10:55:09 AM
dude, Herbert lived in Iraq before writing Dune. Its already about Iraq and its already about oil. and its also the best sci fi ever written, filmed, or thought up. i could see shitty Dune moves come out every year for the next 50 years and not loose my love for the book.
Another gig for Brett Ratner? by Prof. Pop-Cult	Oct 15th, 2007 10:56:56 AM
He can direct anything and do so quickly!
Lynch's DUNE production values + Sci Fi's DUNE script = Ultimate by SpyGuy	Oct 15th, 2007 10:58:24 AM
My wife and I constantly debate which DUNE adaptation is better. She likes the mini-series for the fleshed-out script, Irulan and the better sandworms, while I prefer David Lynch's version for the cooler costumes, the sets, and the diseased Baron Harkonnen. Mash those two together and you've got one hell of a DUNE project. Oh, and for the record, even Sting hated his "flying underpants."
Give it to Genndy by 12characters	Oct 15th, 2007 11:02:05 AM
I firmly believe a cartoon Dune done by Genndy Tartakovsky would kick ass from here to Junction.
Lynch's Dune is frustrating... by Batutta	Oct 15th, 2007 11:03:38 AM
...because it's so near greatness in so many ways, the fact that is fails so miserably in others is a tragedy. Lynch visualized that world so perfectly that I challenge anyone who's seen the movie to not see his vision when you read Herbert's book. The cast is also nearly perfect, although I could live without Sting. Unfortunately, as a piece of dramatic entertainment it's a failure, with too much compacted narrative and not enough dramatization to engage. And some moments are just downright bad and cheesy. Here's hoping it's Ridley Scott who tackles this and not Berg. Berg is a competent and energetic director, but you need someone with vision to tackle this project. Hopefully they won't cast Keanu Reeves as Paul.
that was a lie... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Oct 15th, 2007 11:08:38 AM
but it is the best sci fi has to offer.
Gatsbys West Egg Omlet by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 11:10:14 AM
Totally agree, best sci-fi book ever written.
I agree with you Spyguy... by KillaKane	Oct 15th, 2007 11:11:38 AM
Lynch's production vision was beautifully executed in terms of it's design (granted the some of the visual sfx were a bit poor and don't particularly hold up too the well by today's standards) while Sci Fi's take on Dune was a solid distillation of the Book(s) no easy feat given the past attempts at adaptation since the 70's. I would love to see this succeed with that kind of fusion in mind. Bergs an interesting choice, after seeing the Kingdom, it's looking promising.
kwisatzhaderach i agree by StrokerX	Oct 15th, 2007 11:20:37 AM
i rewatched it about 2 years ago...loved it! the music...the cinematography....I like the wierd voice overs...The sleeper has awakened!
video games by chromedome	Oct 15th, 2007 11:27:36 AM
MNG is right (as nearly always!) I am gonna score me an Atari and spend some time honing my Mad Pong Skills. I'll be Kickin It OLD SCHOOL, cuz I am just that Extreme. yo...?
Why not adapt one of the other novels instead? by Prof. Pop-Cult	Oct 15th, 2007 11:29:02 AM
I'm not familiar with the books, but why don't they just adapt one of the other novels instead as its own self-standing movie. It feels like a waste of time and money to have to go through a third iteration of Dune. Which book after Children of Dune could stand on its own?
I'll watch anything DUNE, good or bad... by MC Vamp	Oct 15th, 2007 11:29:19 AM
Amazingly enough, Shia LaBeouf would be a pretty good Paul Atriedes, considering Paul spends 1/2 the book being dismissed as a pampered shrimp by practically the whole universe. You gotta break up DUNE into at least two films, though. I don't know where a good ending is for the first movie...I'd probably end with the Fremen discovering Paul and Jessica and giving him his new name. The book's just too damn dense to be properly translated to film. Even the SciFi series skipped certain points, and it had tons of time to work with.
Rosie O'Donnell as Lady Jessica by rsswope	Oct 15th, 2007 11:29:40 AM
yeah
Watched Lynch's version last night. by Bubba Gillman	Oct 15th, 2007 11:31:13 AM
From the recent DVD release in the cool tin box. Loved it when I saw it in theaters, but feared that by rewatching it now I'd see what everyone else says is so bad about it. But I loved it again, mainly for that Lynchian dreamlike quality. That said, I'm not necessarily opposed to a more straightforward, mainstream film adaptation. Didn't like the Sci-Fi Channel treatment. The plot of the book was there, but not the feel.
Peter Jackson is the only one I can think of... by commiepinko	Oct 15th, 2007 11:36:35 AM
...who would make it the right way.
Prof. Pop-Cult... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Oct 15th, 2007 11:37:24 AM
because the books get progressively less impressive. Or just too damn wierd. Dune is the only one that could really launch a series, the only hope to make money with them. If they started in with a God-Emperor of Dune movie or even Children of Dune, no one but Dune fans would be able to sit through them.
Or maybe Ridley Scott by commiepinko	Oct 15th, 2007 11:37:52 AM

"neither of those adaptations tipped it through the hoop", I st by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Oct 15th, 2007 11:39:17 AM
The Sci-Fi version was fantastic and closer to the book then the Lynch version. I though that it was a top notch production with decent acting and good special effects for a TV mini series. I really do not see the point in telling this story yet again and trying to fit it into a 2-3 hour movie. The Sci-Fi version hit the nail on the head and anything more would just be overkill.
Or maybe Darren Aronofsky by commiepinko	Oct 15th, 2007 11:39:54 AM

I disagree Merrick. (subject header got chopped) by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Oct 15th, 2007 11:40:25 AM
The Sci-Fi version was fantastic and closer to the book then the Lynch version. I though that it was a top notch production with decent acting and good special effects for a TV mini series. I really do not see the point in telling this story yet again and trying to fit it into a 2-3 hour movie. The Sci-Fi version hit the nail on the head and anything more would just be overkill.
What about Jodorowsky? by JustinSane	Oct 15th, 2007 11:45:14 AM
Just let the man do his batshit-crazy version of DUNE already! ...Even though it wouldn't be as awesome without Dali as the Emperor.
Seriously, don't hire Shitty The Beef for Paul by photoboy	Oct 15th, 2007 11:49:35 AM
It would suck almost as badly as giving Optimus Prime a mouth and flames. Almost.
TOO DUNE ! ! ! by Pound Sand	Oct 15th, 2007 11:59:06 AM
So Long as Sting returns, I'm all for it.
Is it just me......... by Blackguard	Oct 15th, 2007 12:00:42 PM
...or are you all tired of "Dune"? The 2 Sci-Fi miniseries were pretty good. The original movie (all 27 versions) was strange but good. How many times are they going to "remake" this? Maybe they will cast young like an "OC" Dune. I've said this before but there are SO many screenwriters with NEW ideas out there. MAKE THOSE MOVIES!!! I'd rather see a NEW concept than something I've seen twice before.
Lynch's Dune by Terry the geek	Oct 15th, 2007 12:07:58 PM
Had a pre-Agent Cooper Kyle Mclachlan as Paul Ateides. But...it also had Sting in it. Anyway I am of the opinion that a good Dune film isn't really possible. All power to Berg though, The Kingdom was well done.
VERY BAD THINGS by s0nicdeathmonkey	Oct 15th, 2007 12:22:37 PM
best black comedy ever.
I never read the books but by veritasses	Oct 15th, 2007 12:28:58 PM
I thought the first mini series they did on the SciFi channel was well done.
The whole reason DUNE never worked on screen by RipVanMarlowe	Oct 15th, 2007 12:29:45 PM
was due to the awfully short running time of Lynch's film. Dune cannot be done in roughly two hours. The mini-series was solid, but short of Paramount footing the bill for a 4-hour Dune adaptation (yea fucking right), I don't see another big screen version working out. So yeah, I'd have to agree with Terry the geek.
This reboot is gonna be OFF THE HOOK by ebolamonkey	Oct 15th, 2007 12:31:43 PM
Shia stars as little Paulie Atreides, forced to leave his friends when his dad's work forces him to transfer to Nowheresville, Dune. His big city ways just don't fit in with the other kids in Dune High, especially since dancing has been banned by the city council. He starts hanging with Stewie Stilgar, who teaches him that doing spice and riding worms is the Dune way, and Paulie teaches Stilgar how to get a girl. Paulie joins the Fightin Freeman football team to try and impress Chani, the prettiest girl in school. Will the Fightin Freeman beat the Harkonnen Hawks at homecoming? Will Paulie and his worm riding friends outwit the school principal who sees them as a bunch of no-good-niks? Can Paulie dance his way into Chani's heart? You'll find out as another set of Hollywood execs try to prove they're smarter than the author of the best selling science fiction novel ever.
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"Spinoff potential built into the new Indy film"? by Mullah Omar	Oct 15th, 2007 12:42:49 PM
Does this mean CRYSTAL SKULL is being established the start of a Soviet-era Indy trilogy?
Danny Elfman for Dune? by Musicballs	Oct 15th, 2007 12:58:33 PM
He already used the theme in Scrooged!
DUNE with crazy shaky-cam and bad acting for three hours! by LaudnerGomez	Oct 15th, 2007 01:00:18 PM
Giving Berg this franchise is the worst idea since JUSTICE LEAGUE.
Mullah Omar, nope it means Shia reprising his role by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Oct 15th, 2007 01:01:09 PM
into a new franchise as Indy's son. Mark my words that's exactly what it means.
Islam in Space by xevoid	Oct 15th, 2007 01:03:38 PM
That's all Dune ever was. Herbert took the whole story of Mohammed coming out of the desert to lead a people through war to greatness and was considered a prophet. He even put it on a desert planet. It's pretty simple, really, and boring. I have tried to read it again a few times. The first book is OK, but once you realize that it's basically Islam in Space, it loses it's appear. The rest of the books are some of the most boring pieces of drivel I've ever read, and the new, pre Dune books (House Harkonnen, etc) aren't any better and suffer from really poor writing.
Dune... by jimmy rabbitte	Oct 15th, 2007 01:10:48 PM
...another Alan Smithee film?
Someone get Ridley on the phone... by kells	Oct 15th, 2007 01:12:08 PM
Peter Berg? Weak. Ridley Scott was originally attached to the project that Lynch ended up directing...he ended up quitting because his brother died. I say give him a call...he's proved his epic chops with Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven - and he has the weight to offer a mega director's cut of it on DVD if the studio won't let him do a four hour film - the Director's Cut of Kingdom of Heaven kicks serious ass. That being said, I don't think a truly good adaptation can be done in LESS than four hours, and probably not even then. If they really want to remake it, they need another mini-series...and that seems kind of pointless. That or break it into separate films - but I don't think that would work too well.
Rather see... by BoggyCreekBeast	Oct 15th, 2007 01:14:34 PM
...River Phoenix dusted off and propped up rather than Shia-infected sequels!
Look what youve started, Merrick... by spud mcspud	Oct 15th, 2007 01:15:14 PM
You're giving these people ideas! If they cast Shit LeBeef as Muad'Dib now it's YOUR FUCKING FAULT!!!!! Not seen the mini-series (looked a bit dull to be honest) but I loved me some Lynch movie DUNE. The production design is awesome, the epic scope of the picture gives it the epic feel you need to do the book justice (Abominable Snowcone - I feel you with how humourless the series is, but isn't that sort of the point? The universe is imploding under all these wars being fought over the last remnants of one precious resource - and we know they really mean spice as OIL - and life in that milieu would not be easy. It's kind of the space opera Lord of the Rings in that way) and there are moments of genius that make the film brilliant, despite some of its huge faults. Sting's cry "I will kill him!" makes me howl with laughter every time for how bad it is, but weirdly it fits with the tone of the movie. Lynch's DUNE is a weird animal... it's not "so bad it's good" because it's not that bad - it's got scope, it's got ambition, it's got great production design, but it also has little cohesion, Sting's hilarious Feyd Rautha, and too much voice over. But all in all, it rules over all three STAR WARS prequels put together. Go on, prove me wrong! Though I'd watch Pete Berg's version. He's fast becoming a hell of a good director. Give him the keys to ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK and let him take it out for a long drive.
Dune as Lord of the Rings by Dangerousapple	Oct 15th, 2007 01:16:34 PM
If this ever sees the light of day, it would be the 3rd adaptation of Dune - but it might be the first one to really hit the mainstream public. That is, if Paramount gives it the Lord-of-the-Rings-big-crowd-pl easer treatment. The Book certainly is full of spectacle, so this could be done (although i doubt Peter Berg is the director to do it). If this new project can somehow combine the book Dune, Lynch Dune, Sci-fi Dune and the LOTR epic feel... that would be the coolest movie of ALL TIME.
Alejandro Jodowrosky and not Peter Berg should direct Dune by OGREISHERE	Oct 15th, 2007 01:18:51 PM
Alejandro came very close in the 70's to making a truly great version of Dune. Just imagine if a studio gave him $200,000,000 and final cut. Man i just started drooling a little. This means no disrespect to Peter Berg who is fast becoming one of the most interesting voices in cinema. I know it wont happen but a guy can dream cant he?
"He truly is the quisenart hat rack! by 3 Bag Enema	Oct 15th, 2007 01:36:37 PM
If Lynch couldn't do it, no one can. These books could not possibly be more overrated.
Shia LaBeouf...HIS VERY NAME IS A KILLING WORD by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Oct 15th, 2007 01:36:49 PM
IT KILLED MY INTEREST RIGHT THE HELL OUT OF THIS
Peter Berg? Meh. by grungies	Oct 15th, 2007 01:46:57 PM
He's not bad, he's not good. He's painfully average.
StrokerX by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 01:47:20 PM
Glad you agree. Whatever peoples opinions of Lynch's Dune at least it's not a churned out studio product like 95% of the films these days. Lynch's industrial production design and Freddie Francis' cinematography are pretty amazing, even today. The folding space and spice-taking sequences are completely surreal. The music, especially Brian Eno's Prophecy theme is sublime. A three hour version (and a better ending) would have been a treat, the deleted sequences are all very interesting. At least this was a director with ambition and vision tackling the project, unlike the studio hacks churning out dross nowadays.
Dream Cast by OGREISHERE	Oct 15th, 2007 01:53:24 PM
Ok if (and that is a big if right now) this project does go forward who would be your dream cast? I have a few names... Paul - Emille Hirsch Duke - Sean Penn (god for them to work together again) Lady Jessica - Rachel Wiesz Baron - John Goodman Emperor - Anthony Hopkins
Dream Cast by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 02:04:03 PM
Paul - Daniel Bruhl, Duke - Ed Harris, Jessica - Cate Blanchett or Joan Allen, Duncan - Michael Biehn, Chani - Eva Green
I'm a Dune junkie but... by Christopher3	Oct 15th, 2007 02:14:59 PM
The book truly constitutes an unadaptable work. The Lynch movie had some amazing production design, and the miniseries had room enough for the plot, but neither managed to get their hands around the entire elephant, so to speak. It's difficult to see how a new film would solve the problem.
Xiphos by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 02:22:22 PM
He's the German actor from Goodbye Lenin! and he played Marie's brother in a scene in The Bourne Ultimatum.
If Lynch cant do it..... by LORDRANDO	Oct 15th, 2007 02:24:02 PM
No one can....read the book...it will change you....unlike Lord of the Rings, Dune just isnt a movie...you could never provide all the background and depth that makes it great.
it's "Muad'Dib" ! by We	Oct 15th, 2007 02:28:19 PM
I hope this guy fucks it up, so I can adapt the book properly 20 or so years from now. I hope he fucks it up, because even if he makes a decent film, it could never live up to what I'd require from a film adaptation. Why, yes, I'm a "fanboy".
For he is the Hatbox Matador by -888	Oct 15th, 2007 02:28:37 PM
Yeah, I'm a reasonable fan of Peter Berg, but I said it on the Escape from NY board and I'll say it here, he should be making THAT movie. He's got a good handle on action and violence.... I haven't seen the Kingdom yet, but I don't know that he can handle the depth involved in Dune. Peter Jackson is the only guy who's proven he can tackle a book of Dune's scope and density, and I dunno if he's got the right spirit for Dune. Berg's just a weird choice for this. But I'll tell ya what. The thought of a Berg Dune doesn't have me running for the hills or calling for boycott. Maybe he can pull it off. But I'd be downright excited about a Peter Berg Escape from NY. Dune may be unadaptable. Fuck it. Give it back to Alejandro... at least then it'll without question be interesting!
Lynch's DUNE by oceanic86	Oct 15th, 2007 02:30:25 PM
One of the most underrated sci-fi movies of the '80s. After seeing it twice, I can safely say that it's one of my favorite sci-fi movies of all time. Too bad that extended edition sucks goat semen, though.
I liked the miniseries by Fitzcarraldo2	Oct 15th, 2007 02:30:46 PM
I liked how it made the Sardaukar look like queer Frenchmen.
Ah-Ha! by -888	Oct 15th, 2007 02:36:18 PM
What about Alfonso Cuaron?Or Guillermo Del Toro?Fincher, maybe? Fight Club seemed unadaptable.
jodorowsky's version seems like a good idea until.... by erockwilly	Oct 15th, 2007 02:36:20 PM
...you read how he would have done it: http://www.duneinfo.com/unseen /jodorowsky.asp it would have been ridiculous! dune could be three hours theatrically and succeed if the adaptation condensed it correctly. The prequels really enrich the whole universe and makes your head spin. I think they should make "The Butlerian Jihad" books into a trilogy. it would be incredible.
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Duncan Idaho by OGREISHERE	Oct 15th, 2007 02:38:01 PM
Michael Biehn would be incredible. I also think that Russell Crowe wouldnt be half bad either.
BERG on ESCAPE FROM NY by -888	Oct 15th, 2007 02:38:19 PM
Throw Ratner into the river.
Fincher by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 02:40:58 PM
Fincher is just about the only director working nowadays who could pull it off. His version would probably make about 20 bucks at the BO though.
An almost 3 hour film would work just fine... by DanDelion	Oct 15th, 2007 02:41:21 PM
The Dune miniseries clocks in at around 4 1/2 hours and still is incredibly slow in a lot of places. Make the shit hit the fan for a big betrayal set piece at the 1 hour mark, spend the next hour with Paul being taken in and trained and everything in the desert, and spend the remaining 40 or so minutes on the big finale. Piece of cake, people.
I was hoping Peter Berg would tackle a "geek" project. by brokentusk	Oct 15th, 2007 02:53:05 PM
I think he has enormous potential, and has been learning as he goes along in terms of his directorial work. TONIGHT, HE COMES (or whatever the fuck they're calling it now, HANCOCK - that still sounds dirty, why'd they change it?) could be a great big-budget geek project to put him firmly on the A-list director map, we'll see. I for one do not mind this at all, let him try his hand at adapting DUNE.
I don't know... by wampa 1	Oct 15th, 2007 02:57:49 PM
...but it sure smells good!
Jodorowsky, Pink Floyd & Gieger by reni	Oct 15th, 2007 02:58:11 PM
There's your Dune, right there...
Oh Yeah! by Omar B	Oct 15th, 2007 03:09:28 PM
Bring it, let's have another version! The Lynch version was cool, the designs were great but somehow it fell flat though I still love it. The sci-fi version was great and got most but not all of the story in. This book is too huge to be made into one movie, it's gotta be a trilogy or an extremely abbreviated 3 hour epic. I say do it in that green screen (Sky Captain, 300, Casshern) style so it can look as wild as it's described. Right now I'm really digging the new Dune novel by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson named Sandworms Of Dune, you guys should check it out.
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I'm with you, Sonicdeathmonkey by MC-909	Oct 15th, 2007 03:13:58 PM
I've always thought Very Bad Things was a GREAT movie. Funny story: when it was released (1999?) I went to the theater w/ my girlfriend to see if the theater manager would give us the poster. To help persuade him, I told him it was for my brother who was sick in the hospital with cancer. It worked and the poster hung proudly on the wall of my Air Force dorm room for two years.
I am finally reading this book, and I realize how badly its been by modlight	Oct 15th, 2007 03:14:51 PM
I thought the Miniseries were pretty good, Children of Dune was better than the first one. The David Lynch is classic, and I never had a problem with other than the dated effects until I started reading the book recenlty. Holy shit have they turned these into Designer wankfests while totally ignoring the very subtle politics, historical allusion, religion, and complex emotional relationships in the book. I hope they tone down the costumes, and ridiculous set pieces and make a real movie with this material. And they really need to make the Baron a bad guy instead of a fat floating faggy goofball that they always do. Anyways... I'd love to see a really great version of this done.
How cool is that Indy pic? by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 03:16:14 PM
Love the look on the crewmember's face: "HOLY SHIT - IT'S INDIANA JONES!!!!"
... treated in the past.. by modlight	Oct 15th, 2007 03:16:59 PM
I didn't realize my title got cut off... sorry.
I'd rather see that proposed Dune tv series by oisin5199	Oct 15th, 2007 03:18:22 PM
spinning off the miniseries. It should be in the world of Heretics of Dune with flashbacks to God-Emperor (which is basically a book-length political treatise). I think the mini-series(es) did hit it out of the park as far as adaptations go, but I could have done without the extreme accents and the painted backdrops. I just don't see a remake of the original happening in Hollywood without it being totally watered down and crappy. The problem with the later books is that you often have 'gholas' or characters that are supposed to be reincarnations of earlier ones, so you have to have an earlier reference. For instance, there's a character who supposed to be the spitting image of the original Duke Atreides - do you cast someone who looks like a young William Hurt? Anyway, a series could flesh out the characters, give things time to grow, explore all the nuances of the politics, economics, and religion that are in the novels. I just don't see another remake working.
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and the buffet carving station.
STILGAR, DO WE HAVE HAMSIGN? by Pound Sand	Oct 15th, 2007 03:24:40 PM
Usul, we have hamsign the likes of which even Indy has never seen.
THE PLANET IS ARRAKIS, ALSO KNOWN AS THE HAM STATION by Pound Sand	Oct 15th, 2007 03:26:40 PM
Somebody up above suggested "Dune," was a failure because it wasn't long enough to do it justice, or something to that effect. I always thought the movie just seemed long because it was so poorly done.
THE HAM MUST FLOW!!!! by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 15th, 2007 03:30:04 PM
If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
I agree KwixatzHAMerach.. by modlight	Oct 15th, 2007 03:39:26 PM
oh!!!!
8-hour Dune fan film? by Prof. Pop-Cult	Oct 15th, 2007 03:49:52 PM
Anybody hear about this fan film that's supposedly 8 hours long, shot in Spanish by Spanish filmmaking students? The Frank Herbert estate shut them down. But 8 freakin' hours?? Wow. I'd really like to see some clips and production shots of this.
Shia Labeef as Duke Leto by Pipple	Oct 15th, 2007 03:58:29 PM
And every other character
Well, if yet another Dune film were made by moondoggy2u	Oct 15th, 2007 03:58:45 PM
you just know we would have to endure some AICN critic postulating their surprise at Dune being a critique of OPEC, oil, drug use, and the 60s. Remember that book critic who was surprised to learn that CHOAM and melange was Herbert's version of OPEC? I also trust that the allusion of worm riding to sex was made in jest. Either that or I'm watching the wrong Dune...
Many men have tried the Ham . . . so many, but none has succeede by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Oct 15th, 2007 04:03:17 PM

Oh, and if She-man LaPoof is cast as Paul Muadib, by moondoggy2u	Oct 15th, 2007 04:06:00 PM
I will be seriously, seriously pissed off. Yeah, Usul was sixteen in the opening of the novel, but I really dont want to see LaPoof trying to act with his version of gravitas. Sure, Lynch's film was emotionally distant (but then, so was the book), shaved reverend mothers (dunno why), weriding modules (odd), and an obviously lazy script that relied voice overs for exposition rather than plot, scenes, and actual dialogue, but it certainly casted the right actor for Paul Atreides. LaPoof just doesn't cut it.
The Ham is Life. The Ham must flow. by moondoggy2u	Oct 15th, 2007 04:07:02 PM

melange ..... by fightinIrishBoy	Oct 15th, 2007 04:10:51 PM
Give me some sweet melange to heigten my senses and make me a god among men! This better be a trilogy of films, with none of the political stuff left out AND none of the mysticism left out. I have to admit, this one will be a doozy to film, so whoever does it will have their work cut out for themselves. if i were them, i would look at some of the designs from the seventies aborted versions, particularly moebius' designs for the space ships and imperial stuff. This will set the tone for the first part. the second part should be a total change tonally, as it is in the book. it should be brutal and gritty. the third part should be a mix of the two, but with a sense of intense build up - like a religious experience, as paul takes his role as muad'dib. if i had my way, it would be filmed word for word with .... i also think that the bene gesserrit was never properly represented, either was paul's journey, either was ... well, lets just fac it, dune has never been accurately portrayed - they have never caught the essence of dune. hats off to the person who does it if they manage to convey just a fraction of the themes of that book. i have seen other people's interpretations of dune, which is fine, but i have never seen someone's interpretation who actually understood the novel. All Hail muad' Dib!
I will not eat the Ham. Ham is the mind killer. by moondoggy2u	Oct 15th, 2007 04:12:06 PM
Ham is the little death that brings total obesity I will face the ham I will permit it to pass over my teeth and through me And when the ham has gone I will send ex-lax along its path. When the ham has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Ham Antrides: House Of Antrides by Uncapie	Oct 15th, 2007 04:16:42 PM
You crazy bastards!
Dune is boring........ by Cleyu	Oct 15th, 2007 04:20:43 PM
It's not the movies that failed...........the story was never good in the first place.
also... by fightinIrishBoy	Oct 15th, 2007 04:28:49 PM
i recently have read the books again and their is a whole subtext due to recent world events. paul is a terrorist, who wants to start a jihad to cleanse the universe. this, he believes, will eventually free mankind. leave out NONE OF IT!!! meant or not, this is a story which has so many layers that you can read so much into it. the film should have all this n it. it should not be a mere rehash of the books. thats what the mini-series was. a rehash, with little to no creative flair. it missed the point. make it as philosophical and thought provoking as the book was. make it controversial (not that you'll have to, if your true to the book). most importantly, make the characters human. i believe this has never been achieved, other than in the book itself. the first book is the story of a family, and impending doom. the second is harsh and brutal, about what happens when the ppl you love and all you know is gone. this is the setting for the birth of the hero, but a hero who is well aware of his own destiny. How would someone react to such knowledge? what does paul's ability mean. the thrid one, this is the birth of muad'dib, the annointed one, the christ. paul accepts his bloody future. is this right? is this wrong? leave it thoroughly ambiguous, but raise all the awkward questions that paul raises about destiny and choice. AND keep in the realness of this universe. not everything has to be spelled out, as long as the complexity of the world is understood and treated as if it is there, even if it is not obvious. in other words, treat it like lord of the rings.
Jesus Fucking Goosesteping Christ! How many Reboots/Remakes by conspiracy	Oct 15th, 2007 04:41:12 PM
Can Hollywood churn out? Is the god damned blow so good that nobody down there has an ounce of creativity left? I can't wait to see the 21st century take on Dune..maybe they'll cast Scarlett Johansson as the Shadout Mapes and update the the worms to be xtasy spewing Giant Fucking CGI Robots..that'll pack the 40yr old Shut in's into the seats. Fuck I don't know whats worse..the fact that people paid millions of dollars per project can't think past someone else's idea, or the fact we keep lining up to see this shit at $10-13/seat.
Back in the laserdisc days... by Phimseto	Oct 15th, 2007 04:44:14 PM
...any store would tell you the #1 most hoped-for item was a Lynch director's cut of Dune. Everyone knew about his original 4 1/2 hour cut of the film and was hoping that the specialty format of laserdisc would make it happen. It didn't obvious but Lynch and Dune fans alike have been waiting since. That's the only version of the film I really want to see, and considering how many other films have gotten the treatment, I'm still surprised Dune hasn't. All its dvd releases have been poor, to say the least.
Don't worry DUNE fans. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 15th, 2007 04:50:16 PM
I'm sure that after Berg's film has come and gone, someone will let Rob Zombie take a stab at it. And by doing so, we'll finally get to see how the Baron Harkonnen became such an emotionally scarred bad guy after he accidentally walked in on his parents having sex.
The scoop AICN has yet to get by Corwin_X2	Oct 15th, 2007 04:52:22 PM
All this insider info is great - and it's what's made AICN a legend. But Harry hasn't yet managed to get one of the most important scoops yet: What exactly is on those negatives in Rat Brettner's possession that cause studio execs to pay him millions to be involved in (crap upon) genre properties? Red Dragon remake - why? New York remake - why? And after the abortion that was X3 - why for pity's sake Rat Brettner? I figure it must have beem a studio exec party gone horribly wrong, donkeys and sheep got involved, and there was Brett with a camera. Surely there's no other rational explanation!
Berg is good, as long as he gets Moebius and Jodo as advisors by pipergates	Oct 15th, 2007 05:04:03 PM
and no Shia in this one, Dune needs a european or international blend of actors, like Lotr did.
Conspiracy: by Corwin_X2	Oct 15th, 2007 05:11:00 PM
As far as I can see the answers to your questions are: Infinite and Yes. There's a few beacons of light: anything Frank Miller is involved in, Rodriguez and Tarantino when they pull themselves away from 70's schlock, Snyder. But your average hollywood suit? Only comes out of the bathroom long enough to xerox someone else's idea. Ideally an idea from about 20-25 years ago so they can "introduce the story to a new generation". As the great Douglas Adams said: "Death's too good for them."
Dream cast by watashi-wa	Oct 15th, 2007 05:14:56 PM
Paul = has to be a relative unknown, imo. Too familiar a face could kill it. Jessica = Tilda Swinton Stilgar = Naveen Andrews Baron = an evil bastarded-up Kevin Spacey Peter De Vries = can't beat Lynch's choice of Grima Wormtongue, but Zachary Quinto would be a good stand-in Duncan = Ed Norton Gurney = B Del Toro Chiani = Nora Zehetner
Iraq = Arrakis? by Pipple	Oct 15th, 2007 05:20:39 PM
relevance this film could have? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Lynch's version will always have the most iconic look and score by Neo Zeed	Oct 15th, 2007 05:44:27 PM
Even if flawed, scriptwise. I'm sure we'll get a more cohesive script this time around, but I'm sure it'll lack the cool visuals that De Laurentis and Lynch brought to the table.
Dune is the Greatest Book I've Ever Read, both movie versions bi by 'Cholera's Ghost	Oct 15th, 2007 05:59:29 PM
It would take one salty seadawg to pull this one off right. And I want LOTR-sized budgets.
F-ing truncated subject line! by 'Cholera's Ghost	Oct 15th, 2007 06:00:51 PM
Meant to say both movies were majorly disappointingabletastic.
I love David Lynch's by Gozu	Oct 15th, 2007 06:08:25 PM

Huh. Awkward. by Gozu	Oct 15th, 2007 06:09:35 PM
Obviously, what I was going to say is that I love David Lynch's fat, spice filled sandworm.
i like lynch's dune a ton. by blonde redhead	Oct 15th, 2007 06:12:16 PM
yes, it is missing a shitload, and yes, he's sort of disowned it, but it's not the trainwreck so many people think it is. it is lynch's dune, and it's pretty fucking awesome.
The Worms are deployed by by Stark Industries	Oct 15th, 2007 06:20:45 PM
Stark Industries. We only have to fire them ONCE. -House Stark
The TV Version WAS AWFUL by JaPra	Oct 15th, 2007 06:21:13 PM
I loved Alec Newman's portrayal of Paul Atredies but the rest of the film [save for the incredible ass that was shown by Matt Keeslar] was more then sub par. The costumes were compeletly outlandish, and the Benne Jesserits[sp?] looked like Southern Bells in those ridiculous overblown cowboy hats. The art design in general was an embarassment. I like Lych's version because he tapped into the power of the story. However, Lynch's vision was only that, a vision lacking cohesion. I'm all for a re-exploration into the world of DUNE, but done the right way.
Michael Bien as Duncan? Good call. by Vi	Oct 15th, 2007 06:31:14 PM
Michael Bien as Duncan? Good call. What about Gurney? Dare I say? How about Patrick Stewart again? Duke Leto Atreides, Russel Crowe would be good. I also love the suggestion of Ed Harris. The man's an acting god. What about Ian McKellen or Christopher Lee as the Emperor? Cate Blanchett is Lady Jessica and Rachel Weisz is Shani! :D
Look, all I'm saying is... they better bring Sting back. by brokentusk	Oct 15th, 2007 06:36:12 PM
You know you want it! Oh, and Shia can play a sand worm.
I wasnt too big a fan of the tv mini-series by moondoggy2u	Oct 15th, 2007 06:36:15 PM
But I did enjoy Children of Dune. More accurately, I loved the Dune Messiah portion of Children of Dune. It seemed like the Newman guy had gotten more comfortable as Paul, the sets, costuming, and budget had gotten better, and the excellent score by Brian Tyler really helped to make a very memorable adaptation of Dune Messiah. Anyone else enjoy that highly energetic iman nusharef (or whatver its called) montage that was done at the end? That scene still gives me chills. Very well done. The rest of the mini-series, however, wasn't quite up to par, but I will always enjoy Dune Messiah; it really was a well-made adaptation.
Lynch's version is awesome, Sci-fi mini-series sucked ass by Lornsorrow	Oct 15th, 2007 06:54:45 PM
to quote kwisatzhaderach above "despite its faults I don't see any other version topping it. The music, cinematography and production design on Lynch's Dune are all first class and the cast is excellent. Berg won't do a better job than Lynch." Exactly! That Sci-fi mini-series (both of them) sucked so bad, I don't even know where to begin! Just horrible.
my ideal cast would be: by moondoggy2u	Oct 15th, 2007 07:43:16 PM
Feyd--Wentworth Miller Emperor Shaddam--Ian Mckellan Baron Harkonnen--Ray Winstone Duncan Idaho--Michael Biehn (whoever thought of that first was a damned genious-Biehn is Duncan!) Leto Atreides--Clive Owen Lady Jessica--Rachel Weiss And finally, Paul Muad'Dib Atreides--Jake Gyllenhaal. Yep, I know, let the DuneBack jokes commence, but I honestly think Jake GYllenhaall could deliver a very good rendition of Paul. There are a slew of other characters, some important and some otherwise, but honestly, those could be cast by just about anyone.
Just like The Shining by Anakin Whoopass	Oct 15th, 2007 08:04:12 PM
I see a lot of parallels. The quirky, over-the-top-artistic-film fans vs. the slavish-to-the-book-and-cheap- looking TV miniseries fans. Difference is, I don't think anyone wants to take another crack at The Shining. I love the Lynch film and I wish Lynch could be convinced to do a longer cut with all the FX cleaned up. The Alan Smithee expanded cut is really bad but I like some of the scenes in it.
Berg IS Mr. Avid fart by mr.underwater	Oct 15th, 2007 08:38:49 PM
Well, he can share that honor with Tony Scott. Regardless, I don't think his decidedly MTV/ADD style suits the material at all
Imagine if Blue Velvet was being remade.... by DanielKurland	Oct 15th, 2007 08:55:14 PM
What a fucking unnecessary disaster that would be. It'd probably be the first re-make that I actively protested.
Dune is everyone thinking to themselves. by futureman3000	Oct 15th, 2007 09:09:22 PM
Hard to make a movie about it, even though it rules. And having your ancestors in your head is weird and hard for film too.
Muad'Dib Casting by groundwork	Oct 15th, 2007 09:36:58 PM
Jonathan Tucker. Don't ask me why, I think he'd be good.
New Director, Too by groundwork	Oct 15th, 2007 09:42:35 PM
8 1/2 hours in length, helmed by Matthew Barney with another Bjork score. Oh yeah, and the spice is depicted by petroleum jelly (what else?!). 5 lines of dialogue in the whole thing.
I liked Lynch's Version... by Gatack2	Oct 15th, 2007 09:44:56 PM
The mini was ok but had no soul. Hopefully this will get a director with a good vision behind it. http://tinyurl.com/24xxvc
Paul Muad'Dib Atreides--Jake Gyllenhaal, ok by pipergates	Oct 15th, 2007 10:12:30 PM
good one moondoggy, he hasnt had his chance yet, would have been a better spidey. are you related to the blind musician?
SOMEBODY PLEASE PUT SHIA LaBUFF TO SLEEP. by Redfive!	Oct 15th, 2007 10:12:39 PM
If that little even stevens bastad is linked to another great francise sans transformers* im gonna start cutting myself.This little fu*ker needs put to sleep.
I prefer Lynch's failure to most other directors' successes. by Clancy Van Lustbader	Oct 15th, 2007 10:23:20 PM
'Dune' as a movie didn't work for a number of reasons but, perplexingly, I would put it forth as one of the most remarkable 'failures' ever committed to screen. Some of it is nothing less than astonishing. True, so much of the film didn't work because the story couldn't be easily shoehorned into a standardised Hollywood template; it's a vast, epic tale which demands considerable attention to follow. Conversely, for this reason, it also happens to be one of the most enthralling and rewarding. I also think 'Dune' is a hard sell precisely because it sketches out a dense and sophisticated world, almost unparalleled in its vision. It isn't and can never be just 'popcorn entertainment'. I love Lynch's 'Dune' because, at the very least, it aspired to be sci-fi for grownups, and for that I will always be thankful. Say what you like about Lynch's signature style (which I personally happen to love), but at least he has a unique vision and something to say. I'm not interested in being negative for the sake of being negative but this director's attachment to a story which, I think, has remarkable depth and resonance (and which is strikingly relevant in today's political climate!), doesn't enthuse or impress me one bit. Dune doesn't need a journeyman, it needs a visionary. I'd rather see it reworked and bomb again with a visionary at the helm than be turned into something inspid and forgettable.
Did some coverage clerk misread "Shai Hulud" for Shia LeBoeuf? by kabong	Oct 15th, 2007 10:28:23 PM
Like kwisatzhaderach, I liked Lynch's version of "Dune." How can kwisatzhaderach be wrong about Dune? He's kwisatz haderach!
Oh NOW all the Lynch Dune lovers show themselves by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Oct 15th, 2007 10:56:18 PM
You cowardly dogs. When you see other people with the balls to express your views suddenly you are not so scarce.
"Fear is the mind-killer." by DarthCorleone	Oct 15th, 2007 11:04:06 PM
Someone had to say it. Outstanding book. I never watched the Sci-Fi Channel version. Lynch's version has its entertainment value, but it doesn't measure up to the source material.
Brian Tyler's score by la_resistance28	Oct 15th, 2007 11:12:25 PM
Long time lurker here, but I gotta agree with moondoggy on Brian Tyler's score on the Children of Dune miniseries. That was about the most perfect soundtrack I could ever have imagined for the Dune universe, and he MUST be brought back for any feature films. The "Inama Nushif" montage was beyond spine-tingly, it was rapturous.
I'm glad that Children of Dune montage stuck with other people by modlight	Oct 15th, 2007 11:29:09 PM
Its rare that TV movies, or TV at all manages to pull that kind of feeling out of me.
Lynch's DUNE - was AWESOME by DoogieHowitzer	Oct 16th, 2007 12:30:22 AM
The David Lynch Dune was my introduction to the material - never read the books. I adored it - it was atmospheric, exotic and decadent. I hope the remake or reimagining or whatever re-shit they decide to call it keeps some of that otherworldliness to it.
PUGS ... and WUSSY BENE GESSERITS .. by lambchop	Oct 16th, 2007 03:48:19 AM
Loved the books and the world Frank Herbert created. The Lynch movie was interesting and tried hard but so help me, I will personally hunt the person down who makes the decision to re-enact Gurney Halleck's last stand on the battlement of the castle, clutching a confused-looking pug while hollering 'Long Live Duke Leto'. And they just didn't grasp the concept of the Bene Gesserit sisterhood; first you have Jessica whining and collapsing in a weeping heap and in the TV movies a vinegarish woman dressed like a schoolmarm, staring disapprovingly at everybody. Sheesh people, GET IT RIGHT! PLEASE!!!
Guy Who Got by Clancy Van Lustbader	Oct 16th, 2007 05:44:50 AM
What the fuck are you on about? I wrote a personal review declaring my affection for the 1984 on IMDB. It's been there since 2004. I've never been shy about expressing my support for Lynch's film. Not that I have to justify this to you, you insolent, peevish twat.
There's Only One Classic SF Novel! by emvan	Oct 16th, 2007 07:06:15 AM
Or so it would seem from Hollywood's fascination. Where are the film versions of We, The Demolished Man, The Stars My Destination, More than Human, Rogue Moon, Stranger in a Strange Land, Nova, The Left Hand of Darkness, Dying Inside, The Forever War, Engine Summer, and the Books of the New, Long, and Short Suns? (Not to mention Ubik, The Man in the High Castle, Martian Time-Slip, and half a dozen other PKD novels.)
Clancy Van Lustbader by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 16th, 2007 07:17:48 AM
Excellent post, totally agree. Lynch's Dune is sci-fi for grown ups. The best version of Dune is to get Lynch in to recut it, add the deleted footage and tidy up some of the FX work. THAT would be amazing to see. Probably won't happen though sadly. I first saw Dune at the impressionable age of 10 and it blew me away, a formative cinema experience.
emvan by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 16th, 2007 07:30:11 AM
The Hollwood of today takes no risks in the films they put into production so I can't see any of those books you list hitting the silver screen anytime soon. Ironic, as CG could now bring those stories to life in a way that could not have been done 20 - 30 years ago. Is it just me though or is CG not fulfilling its full potential in cinema? There is no wow factor to most of the films I go and see anymore. As soon as a CG effect hits the screen my mind screams FAKE or CARTOON! There really hasn't been any visionary directors around to propel the medium since Cameron did Abyss, Terminator 2 and True Lies. Hopefully Cameron has something wild in store for Avatar and lives up to the promise of "blowing us through the back wall of the theater."
Dune was done twice already, let it go. Move on to the prequels. by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Oct 16th, 2007 08:15:34 AM
I loved both the David Lynch version, even the Alan Smithee version if you want to count that, and the Sci-Fi channel miniseries. Granted there were flaws in both, but all in all good work on both parts. I really don't want another shot at this. What I DO want to see is The Butlerian Jihad, Machine Crusade, and the Battle of Corrino. Make those well, and you have my money for sure. The House novels would be good too, but I want to see someone go way back into the past and capture the terror and struggle against the machines. Herbert and Anderson wove their stories into the Dune canon perfectly. I just read Hunters of Dune, and Sandworms of Dune. They were good, but I'm still not sure if that's what I wanted. Those are a couple of books I'll need to re-read several times to get the full flavor.
is that a spice worm by kafka07	Oct 16th, 2007 01:05:08 PM
in your pants or are you just glad to see me
disappointing news, to be sure by Matthew Martinez	Oct 16th, 2007 06:06:52 PM
When I first read the rumor on CHUD, I had visions of Ridley Scott dancing through my head. (Come to think of it, that's kind of funny.) Don't get me wrong, I've like the two Peter Berg films I've seen (The Rundown and The Kingdom) but neither of them gives me confidence that he's a good choice for the material. I'm also in full support of a new film version. I think the book is far from unfilmable, or more correctly, it's only as unfilmable as Lord of the Rings. As far as casting, I wholeheartedly support the idea of Clive Owen as Duke Leto. As for Lady Jessica, I'm going to propose the unconventional idea of Gina Torres. I think she needs to be played by someone who brings across a feeling of both physical and emotional strength. Torres has convinced me of that in other roles. The Baron needs to be played by someone who actually has a deep, booming voice, someone like Brian Blessed or Jonathan Rhys-Davies. And this time, please cast someone older to play Rabban. He's supposed to be, like, 60. (Spice can't possibly make you look that young.) Let's also not forget, guys, that Paul, Chani and Feyd Rautha are all supposed to be around the same age. I think the best way to cast would be to go with unknowns. Give some new talent a lucky break. Last but not least, we've got to get Alexander Siddig in there somewhere. I'm slightly wary of casting people of Middle Eastern (or West Asian, if you prefer) descent as Fremen, so I don't know that I'd put him in that type of a role, but the dude is a great actor.
some thoughts .... by fightinIrishBoy	Oct 16th, 2007 06:39:50 PM
Lady jessica: Kate blanchet. Leto: Liam Neeson. Gurney: Sean Connery. Duncan: Viggo Mortensen. Alia: Dakota Fanning (cos they're both just plain wierd). Jake Gyllenhaal would make a goodpaul, maybe ..... Thats the casting for house atriedes. the big names i think would actually play well for the first part of the novel, making the viewer more comfortable, so the betrayal can be all the more devastating when it comes. this is why the fremen should be relatively unknowns, to represent the wilderness in which paul and jessica find themselves, physically and emotionally. john malkovich: peter de vrais the baron: im at a loss for this one ... one thing i didnt like about the design of the harkonnons in lynch's fil and the miniseries was it seemed like they were dressed like caricatures of disgusting, evil people, whic they are, but you don't have to spell it out so obviously. when i think of the harkonnens, i think of decadent imperial rome .... just a design suggestion. this is a future where space travel is controled by a guild, an in many ways we are more advanced than they are. they should look to designs from history. the palace n arrakiss - marble, so when the hot sun of arrakiss shines in, it lights the whole place up.
Gurney and Thufir by Daj	Oct 16th, 2007 06:47:36 PM
Gurney= Mickey Rourke Thufir= Terence Stamp I actually think if you have to get a marquee name, Shia ain't too bad for Mau Adib, and he could bring a little humor. I was choked when I heard they were doing another until I got to the Peter Berg line. I think that guy could do it justice as long as he can convey the subtext from the book.
I forgot to add by Matthew Martinez	Oct 16th, 2007 06:57:05 PM
When I was talking about Paul, Chani and Feyd Rautha's ages, I forgot to mention the fact that they're all supposed to be between 16 and 18 years old. Much as I like Gyllenhaal, and as youthful-looking as he still is, he's just too old for the role. (He may have been able to pull it off back in the October Sky days, but not now.) They need to cast actors who have only just turned 18 for these roles. (If they want to go younger, like 16 or 17, that's fine, but I figure they'll want to avoid the hassles of using minors.) Also, let's not forget that this project probably won't even go before cameras until 2009, what with the probably WGA strike, so that makes casting at this very moment a bit problematic.
NO TOTO! TOTO IS THE MIND KILLER! by MrMysteryGuest	Oct 16th, 2007 11:43:36 PM
If there's going to be music, they have to find a single composer with two names, like Hans Zimmer or Danny Elfman, or John Cale! (They used to be in bands too! :D)
Lynch's Dune = as classic a vision as Bladerunner by Teddy Artery	Oct 17th, 2007 12:07:01 AM
You have to hand it to him, David Lynch is an utter nutcase and visionary. Even the Sci-Fi Channel's version bowed down to his genius.
more Dune casting by la_resistance28	Oct 17th, 2007 02:21:33 AM
Lady Jessica: I've always seen her as a regal beauty, but of incredibly strength physically and mentally, so Connie Nielsen, Lena Headey, and Cate Blanchett are my tops. Duke Leto: carries a tragic weight of destiny because he knows his number is up soon; guys who can do great "sadness" in their eyes are Clive Owen, Liam Neeson, Tommy Lee Jones, Jeremy Irons, Joaquin Phoenix Gurney: guy can't be the least-bit good-looking, he's described as "lumpy" for crissakes! But he's gotta be fierce, loyal, charming and able to sing a bit, so nods to Rowan Atkinson, Colm Meaney, David Thewlis, John C. Reilly, Gerard Depardieu (I noticed most of the Gurney casting ideas have him skewing older, but I always thought he was more middle-aged, around Leto's age, after all he started mackin on Jessica later on, am I missing something here? Duncan: Ed Norton, Viggo Mortensen, Christian Bale, Patrick Wilson Thufir Hawat: leathery old-soul, aged, wise, but tough; Paul Newman, Sean Connery, Rene Auberjonois, Leonard Nimoy Baron: Brian Blessed, Brian Cox, Ian McNeice, John Goodman, Robbie Coltrane, Richard Griffiths Piter: Steve Buscemi, Willem Dafoe, Alan Rickman, Brad Dourif, Quentin Tarantino Alia: Dakota Fanning or Evanna Lynch from the latest Harry Potter I don’t have enough faith in any young actors yet for Paul, Chani, and Feyd…
dune casting by fightinIrishBoy	Oct 17th, 2007 05:06:32 AM
Liam Neeson and Kate Blanchet as the royal couple i think would be perfect. Colm meaney as gurney is a good choice, as is sean connery or leonard nimoy as thufir. I think viggo mortensen would be great for duncan - i have always seen house atreides as a good natured bunch, so i think that christian bale would not exactly fit into such a role. he's a bit too dark. brian cox as the baron? inspired choice there la_resistance28. brian cox could make him all the more menacing and machiavellian. willem dafoe as piter - hmmmmm. princess irulan - nora zeheter. shaddam - kenneth branagh. the fremen should look wild and rough. still at a loss for chani and stilgar. the beast rabban - ray winstone.
and paul???? by fightinIrishBoy	Oct 17th, 2007 02:43:36 PM
at a complete loss as to who should play paul .... im going to take back willem dafoe as piter - instead, he should be liet kiens. maybe viggo mortensen should be stilgar. and duncan - daniel craig. not too dark, yet looks like he has just served in ww2 or something - battle hardy, in other words. colm meaney as gurney and sean connery as thufir. the atreides inner circle would be very formidable looking with these actors in these parts.
paul by fightinIrishBoy	Oct 17th, 2007 04:17:09 PM
what about the oldest kid from narnia?
Creed by la_resistance28	Oct 17th, 2007 04:32:13 PM
For some reason, I just had the odd urge to see Creed Bratton from the Office as Thufir. Imagine an old warrior who's so battle-scarred that he's completely off his rocker now. Yes, go Creed!
Other Opinion by z6po	Nov 13th, 2007 08:26:39 AM
This a good news to do Dune, after the italian romantic movie of Lynch, with the middle east news, and the special Transformers effects, we could realize something which can sell Coca Cola (our Spice Melange)... Never a such good litterature can be represented on a screen, because each one have his idea!
You dropped the bomb on me! by lurkinghorror	Dec 24th, 2007 01:31:12 AM
Serious Atomics. I was so mad at first. No more Dunes is preferable to a bad Dune. I will now have to watch Berg movies. In the meantime thanks for your casting call ideas. here's what I thought Lady Jessica: I too thought of Cate Blanchett Right away. Lady Jessica is a powerful figure who goes against not just the empire but the powers behind the empire for her love of the Duke. I also thought of Julianne Moore, but is she commanding enough? Tilda Swinton is commanding but she is very superior and always removed, and aloof never warm. Of course I have not seen her most famous role where she is a lover to Queen ELizabeth and through the centuries changes from a man to a woman. Joan Allen is great but I don't see her as Jessica. Duke Leto: Has to be someone commanding yet who can be fierce and animalisitc in their passions. Haven't seen Liam do that to tell the truth. I was thinking Daniel-Day Lewis or Viggo Mortenson for the duke. I have to admit I was thinking Viggo Mortenson could be the Duke, Duncan or Stilgar. Not just because of LOTR but also because of his recent commanding performance in Eastern Promises. He is so subtle and forceful at the same time. And he can certainly do tragic eyes. And hell when you see him in that bathroom fight scene, you have a whole new respect for the man period. With that physique and those moves he could probably kick the nards off those other actors in real life. And Viggo went to Russia to absorb russian mob characters. Talk about dedication. He could certainly make a fremen leader believable. Then my husband said how much he resembled Jurgen Prochnow. Eeerie. But I'd hate to waste VIggo early on. But who can pull off the infamous tooth scene without making the audience laugh? So the Duke or Stilgar for Viggo. Baron Harkonnen: I liked Spacey, after all the man is gay and would bring legitamacy to the role. BUt if he lex luthorizes it would be too farcical for me. I like Ray Winstone from Beowolf. He looks more like I imagine the Barron looking. The Barron is essentially a cunning, gay and sadistic son of a bitch who delights in every sensory experience and looks like Henry the VIII. Chani: I have imagined Keisha Castle-Hughes from Whale Rider and The Nativity Story as Chani. She is elflike while having great strength. A great actress, and she is the right age. Paul: Funny that an actor from the Narnia series should be mentioned. Ben Barnes, The chap who is going to play Caspian has the right look from what I saw in the trailer but when I clicked on his IMDB photo he looks a bit girly. I think this will have to be a relative unknown. I mean who could be the son of Leto/Viggo and make it believable? It can't just be for looks it has to be for depth or it will be hideous Yueh -- Ed Norton Reverend Mother Helen Mohiam: Judy Dench Gurney: Brendan Gleeson -- most recently he played Alastor 'Mad-Eye' Moody in Harry Potter and was great in Gangs of New York. He can be ughly and spout Shakespeare. But we have to face the idea it is alluded to more than once Jessica has an affair with him later after the Duke's death. Could you sleep with him after Viggo or Daniel? And who can say " Love play is for cattle!" without making you laugh? AND what about Shadout? This is alot to think on.
sorry for lack of line breaks in last post by lurkinghorror	Dec 24th, 2007 01:32:14 AM
whoops! Won't happen next time. No edit button. Crikey.

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