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Rumor of the day: a tasty morsel about Bryan Singer's sequel to SUPERMAN RETURNS!!

NOBODY wants this sequel. by I am Batman	Oct 12th, 2007 03:12:05 AM
That's absolutely the truth.
Why do I get the feeling... by Redfive!	Oct 12th, 2007 03:12:07 AM
BS wont be doing this?,just liek kevin smith wont be doing red state.
Would I be sacreligious for saying... by blindambition238	Oct 12th, 2007 03:12:11 AM
I'd rather have a Superman Reboot and just leave the Donner films as they were?
On the subject of Stamp... by blindambition238	Oct 12th, 2007 03:14:08 AM
I think that Stamp would of made a better movie Magneto than Mckellen in retrospect. He has the acting skill but still can be menacing despite his age.
If this is true, the why? by Varakor	Oct 12th, 2007 03:14:23 AM
Just why? why not use a fresh villiam from the supes villian line up and get out of the Donner spotlight? Braniac would be a great villian! God damn it Singer, make your own damn movie! SR was a big steaming turd. UGH!! I hope this is not true
NEWSFLASH: This movie will never get made by krack	Oct 12th, 2007 03:15:16 AM
Superman Returns sucked. The viewing public didn't like it. And it's understandable, because they "re-imagined" (the worst concept to happen to entertainment in the last 20 years) Superman as a creepy, morose dead-beat dad. Singer had his chance and he blew it.
SUPERMAN LIFTS THINGS 2: THE KNEEL BEFORE ZOD CHRONICALS by Xiphos	Oct 12th, 2007 03:16:56 AM
SR1 was so bad I guess the only place to go is up.
I know you all hated it... by jarodvhale	Oct 12th, 2007 03:19:23 AM
but there were certain things about SR that were done reallt really well....there was also a lot of expectation...he didn't fck it up in my eyes...so the table has been set for ZOd to come and the movie not to suck.....
We all want this Sequel!! by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 03:20:19 AM
That's absolutely the Truth!
STALKERMAN 2:THE COPYING OF DONNER CONTINUES by Xiphos	Oct 12th, 2007 03:20:43 AM
Krack hit the high points or rather the low points of SR1.
The Donner Cut by Mr Chuff	Oct 12th, 2007 03:21:35 AM
Was it jujst me or was Zod less camp in the Donner Cut? They seemed to use different takes of the same dialogue and as a character he was less...poofy. Dont get me wrong...I love Superman II and the Donner Cut was cool to see. I'd be up for more Zod.....!!
Oh and... by Mr Chuff	Oct 12th, 2007 03:22:10 AM
Fuck the JLA movie WB's. Thanks.
Since RETURNS, "Spacey" is now a verb. by I am Batman	Oct 12th, 2007 03:22:38 AM
As in, "Did you see that fag spacey that skinny guy up the ass?" asked Isaiah Washington. "Yes," said the perky little reporter from ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY, who was paid per perkiness, "And, did you hear the skinny guy whine like a puppy with his tongue stuck up his own hole?"
boyblue is FIRST by I am Batman	Oct 12th, 2007 03:24:09 AM
First nobody, that is.
Be your own man by BurntRectum	Oct 12th, 2007 03:27:20 AM
Singer did a great job in his previous movies because he made them original. I'm not necessarily against Terence Stamp but the past was the past and Superman has other good enemies (BRAINIAC!!!) to choose from.
Brainiac is good, Darkseid would be better by blindambition238	Oct 12th, 2007 03:31:19 AM
imagine Superman versus an entire planet of earth invaders, and 1 vs. 1,000 fight scenes...
I am Batman was FIRST by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 03:34:36 AM
The first to point out that I have good taste in Film. Thanks Butthole!
Jude Law should be Zod by Retlaw Kciuq	Oct 12th, 2007 03:58:14 AM

Maybe Stamp should just come back as Wilson from "The Limey"... by JackBauer@CTU	Oct 12th, 2007 04:00:21 AM
and keep telling Supes, "Tell me about Jenny!" As much as I was disapointed with SR, I am willing to give Singer one more try. I tried watching SR again the other day on HBO, and say what you want about style, about homage, about whatever. SR committed the ultimate sin of any movie and that's that it was BORING - plain and simple Stamp returning as Zod is a million times better than that rumor of Jude Law up for the part. I just hope Zod returns with Non...and URSA! Holy shit, was she hot!!! I always wished it was Ursa who decked Lois, and told her, "You know something? You're a real pain in the neck!"
The fact that nobody want this. by The Guy Who Slept Through Everything.	Oct 12th, 2007 04:02:21 AM
COULD be the reason, it comes out of nowhere and rocks balls. But to do that, how bout some new villains? Oh and some fucking action.
i want a sequel, but not this sequel, not yet... by coachaaron	Oct 12th, 2007 04:06:53 AM
it's freakin' superman! the action scenes in superman returns were unbelievable, but i want something even bigger in scope for the next go round. i think brainiac seems to be the obvious/correct choice to be the villain. although this stamp/zod idea is very interesting, maybe it would better be used in a possbile 3rd film, maybe getting set up at the end of the sequel.
Kneel before ZOD! by raw_bean	Oct 12th, 2007 04:07:16 AM
Terence Stamp rules, and I personally really enjoyed SR. Colour me interested. :^)
If I wanted a gay lovefest sequel by Paulseta	Oct 12th, 2007 04:07:40 AM
I'd watch Batman and Robin again (shudder). Speaking of which, living in Sydney was friggin hilarious during the making of Superman Returns. Singer was a regular visitor to a notorious gym around the corner. Some of the crew had some pretty funny stories. They also had some pretty eye raising tales of a certain N Kidman during the filming of a certain red movie of a couple of years back that kind of demolished her carefully cultivated image - but that's another story :-)
I want to see it ! by Bellock	Oct 12th, 2007 04:08:41 AM
"Superman Returns" is one of the best superhero movie ever. It combined the scope of an epic and the nostalgia of a very personal movie. I can't wait to see the sequel !!
I think it would be awesome by doctor_gonzo	Oct 12th, 2007 04:08:49 AM
I have actually been hoping for this for a while. Terrence Stamp is still a bad ass, probably even more of a bad ass then when he did Superman II.
Interesting, but will it work? by Joeri	Oct 12th, 2007 04:11:17 AM
As a big fan of the first three movies I at first liked the idea of the Singer Superman movie leaning so heavily on what Richard Donner had done. But in the end I had to admit that Superman Returns really let me down. So that's probably the most important reason to go ahead with the new movie I think. Bringing Zod back seems very interesting though. Zod is human now and must probably rely on high-tech armour to beat the Man from Steel. Sounds very much like the confrontation between Batman and Superman in the Frank Miller comic about The Dark Knight. High-tech versus superpowers. Sounds like a great story!
Superman Returns - A Great Film, Worthy of the Greatest Superher by Kal Reeve	Oct 12th, 2007 04:11:27 AM
"Superman Returns" is a soulful, majestic film. But several aintitcool regulars who are quick to tear into it for being slow. I am willing to wager that these regulars are same people who panicked when Bay and McG were considered as potential directors of the film. These regulars were scared that either of these directors would render the World's Greatest Superhero as a hollow muscle-head at the head of a souless action extravaganza. But they reacted with scorn when Singer delivered a thoughtful film that delves into Clark's lonliness and longing to be accepted once again by both his true love and his the people of his adopted planet. This was a beautiful, lyrical film. And let's get a few things straight. First, Clark was not portrayed as a dead beat dad. He did not even know Lois was having his son. And he certainly was justified in searching for Kryptonian survivors. It is heroic to save all lives, even ones light years away. Second, he was not stalking Lois. Clark had been away for half a decade, and of course he was anxious to find out how the love of his life was doing. And checking in on her at her home was clearly the only way he could find out about Lois' life. She was not giving Clark the time of day and was angry with Superman. It was his only option. I will concede there are a few problems, primarily Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. She would have been a perfect Lana Lang, or even Supergirl, but she had no business portraying the sharp, gutsy, brassy, yet sweet and sensitivie, Lois. She was completely wrong for the role; Rachel McAdams, Selma Blair or Evangeline Lilly would have been far better choices. In regards of Routh...well...I cannot imagine any current actor delivering a performance more true to the Man of Steel. For me Christopher Reeve was, is and always will be the one and only Superman. However, Routh did a worthy job in honoring his cinematic predecessor and the iconic hero he portrayed. His performance reflected the nobility and humanity of Clark Kent/Superman. And with that, I could not ask for more.
Superman Returns - Great Film, Worthy of the Greatest Superhero by Kal Reeve	Oct 12th, 2007 04:13:16 AM
That's what I meant for the title of the previous post to be.
Superman Returns sucked my asshole. by i kick tits	Oct 12th, 2007 04:21:59 AM
I left the theater liking Lois Lane's husband more than I did Superman.
Is Spacey still attached/connected to this thing? by blindambition238	Oct 12th, 2007 04:28:49 AM
I hope not- I defiantly had enough of the campy Lex Luthor thats been in these movies. They should have at least used the pseudo-redo status of Returns to make him a threat rather than a nuisance.
Lois Lane Returns by criticalbliss	Oct 12th, 2007 04:33:34 AM
Superman Returns sucked. Admit it. It was about Stalker-man and anorexic Lois and their love-child. The action had no dramatic tension (superman is indestructible, after all) and was poorly staged. While I liked the spirit of sticking with the FAR superior Donner films, in truth, Singer fell short by miles. This despite the fact that Routh was actually perfect for the role. It was the one thing I thought that would go wrong; instead, everything else did. Spacey sucked and so did the script and directing. I'll give Singer another chance, but he screwed up Returns. There is no dispute.
Superman Returns - cinematic abomination by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 12th, 2007 04:35:20 AM
Whereas the Donner original soared this Superman had clay feet. Everything about this movie sucked. I get a sore head just thinking about it. If you were to display Hackman and Spacey's Luthor performances side by side Spacey would be so embarrassed he would retire from acting. Routh and the rest of the young cast were horribly bland, the Superkid idea is one of the worst things i've ever seen at the movies...the whole thing made no plausible dramatic sense. Total and utter bollocks.
Superman Returns rocked. by TheNorthlander	Oct 12th, 2007 04:45:22 AM
What's with the hate? That's fucking emo. "Leave the sequels alone! Leave them alone!!! They're having a hard time! Superman Returns sucked and nobody wants it!!" Lame.
wouldn't make sense..... by RighteousBrother	Oct 12th, 2007 04:50:26 AM
seeing as all the other cast members were re-cast from the original films. Why not have Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor.
Casting Stamp by kwisatzhaderach	Oct 12th, 2007 04:51:32 AM
Just one more sign of Singer's creative bankruptcy.
Could try harder... by batmans_pants	Oct 12th, 2007 04:52:22 AM
Is this the best this man can give us? After doing what was pretty much a straight remake of Superman, he is now not only going to do a remake of Superman 2, but hire the same actor? Jeez man. I just lost any interest in a SR sequel. Unless they kick Singers ass off teh project and give it anyone with an original idea, or even someone who will use one of the numerous other villains in teh Superman universe. better still think of a new one!!
I'm with I Am Batman by spud mcspud	Oct 12th, 2007 05:01:07 AM
Nobody gives a shit any more. Even fucking McG's version of SUPERMAN sounds sweet to me at this point. At least we might get Cameron Diaz as Lois Lane. Crispin Glover as Mr Mzxlpitcwhofuckingcares? That could work!
I don't know a single person who enjoyed Superman Returns by barnaby jones	Oct 12th, 2007 05:01:33 AM
Why is this sequel being made again ?
I couldnt give 2 hoots what floats Singers boat in the Bedroom D by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 05:02:59 AM
He did well with Superman Returns and has promised to step it up a gear for the sequel, so what's to complain about? And for Fucks sake just because someone is gay it doesnt render them incapable of making films, you bunch of homophobic basement dwellers!! End of rant, back to work.
Brandon Routh by spud mcspud	Oct 12th, 2007 05:03:20 AM
I should say, at this point, that Brandon Routh is welcome to stay on as Superman. He was pretty fucking good - it was the movie that sucked. An Act 3 that had the hero unconscious in the back of a Cessna, flown by his romantic rival, with his love riding shotgun, while they outrun a HUGE FUCKING WAVE??? That is so NOT what the climax of a movie should be. Thank Christ and all the angels this fucknut Singer isn't doing LOGAN'S RUN. That is all.
Boyblue by spud mcspud	Oct 12th, 2007 05:05:39 AM
SUPERMAN RETURNS didn't suck because its director is gay, it sucked because its director is talentless. Some of us have no trouble keeping them separate. SR was just a fucking awful movie. And I don't care if Singer's gay or not - he's an overrated director. End of.
Simon Pegg as ZOD! by Wonderboys	Oct 12th, 2007 05:10:27 AM
Nick Frost as NON! Some bitch as Ursa!!
I hope this rumor is true! by cameron1975willi	Oct 12th, 2007 05:14:39 AM
I have written a script that has ZOD, Ursa and Non encased in ice and Kryptonian crystal (after the events of Superman II) below the Fortress of Solitude and Luthor discovers this and frees them!
Christ. Two seconds ago you were all singing Bryan's praises by TheNorthlander	Oct 12th, 2007 05:17:03 AM
When he made The Usual Suspects and the X-men films. Calling him a hack now says a lot more about you than it does about him.
bad idea I think by Volstaff	Oct 12th, 2007 05:21:54 AM
When is Singer going to do something interesting with Superman instead of just regurgitating what Donner already did?
spud mcspud by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 05:22:22 AM
You are one of the few who can seperate the 2! Well done. Although I disagree with you about Singer and Superman Returns. That is all..
Oh and I forgot to mention by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 05:24:09 AM
I dont beleive in God
barnaby jones by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 05:26:14 AM
I know plenty who DID, nah nah, nah nah nah!!
GUS GORMAN RETURNS by GCH888	Oct 12th, 2007 05:27:15 AM
... nuff said. And Robert Vaughn will make a brief cameo as Ross Webster. Suddenly the Justice League movie got a lot more interesting. Bryan Singer is just remaking the original movies ... in chronological order.
no,no,no.... by RockLobster800	Oct 12th, 2007 05:28:55 AM
As much as I love Stamp as Zod, the problem with (well one of the problems with) Superman Returns was that it was too closely involved with the Donner/Lester films of the '70's...and this just proves it. I mean Singer revamped the X Men to his own needs (did a great job with Rogue until the third film missed the point of her ENTIRELY....theres a rant there thats desperate for air but....another time) but why cant he put his own mark on Supes? I have no problem with him keeping the music, but Jesus Bryan man, you can build a franchise on its own legs, ya dont need to have Spaceys Gene Hackman impression, or have constant comparisons to Chris Reeve....just get Brainiac or something we havent seen already in. Thats all I ask...theres a good set up for him already...just say that when Kal-El returned TO Kyrpton he met Brainiac and fought him, assumed he was defeated and thought not to tell anyone incase they'd worry. OR even better say he didnt meet Brainiac, that he followed him to earth and engages him as an ally, and a mentor to teach him of his home planet before Brainiac betrays him, whips his ass good and starts to infect the worlds computers. But Zod? Great in Superman 2 but Ive seen that already, I dont want to see a remake of it a few years later.
It's a bad idea to have Zod as the villain again... by Wonderboys	Oct 12th, 2007 05:36:02 AM
People will indeed think that Synger is remaking the old films... in a less exciting way, if Im so dare as to say that Superman Returns, although I liked it, was way more boring than the Donner original (wich I absolutely love). The should try and bring some big villains (Darkseid, Brainiac), broaden the scope of the film and make the action more exiciting... At the end of Superman Returns, i couldnt believe we didnt see Supes punching somebody... I want Superman to fight, bare knuckled, with some big dude... If I wanted to see a movie about a guy lifting big things, I'would watch my own porno tapes...
oh yeah, its been announced the new Rambo film by RockLobster800	Oct 12th, 2007 05:40:37 AM
is now called "Rambo To Hell And Back". I shit you not. Expect a talkback on it in a few hours.
Superman Returns was fucking BORING by Steve Rogers	Oct 12th, 2007 05:40:46 AM
And you KNOW it. To those calling it "majestic" - bite me. It was slow and dull and Supes was a non-personality in his own movie. Clark Kent got the fucking shaft. Routh and Bosworth had ZERO chemistry and Spacey was wasted. Aside from the plane crash sequence the whole movie was a total waste of time.
Fuck this. Zod was cool but get different baddies. by TomBodet	Oct 12th, 2007 05:42:44 AM
Fuckin' a can't these assclowns actually pick one of a gazillion issues of Supes and try for, I donno, Parasite or Brainiac or whatever? Shit. Zod. Mr Loothor. Shoot me now.
nice idea, past its time by themidnighter23	Oct 12th, 2007 05:48:37 AM
I wish SInger would just stop living in the past and do something new with Superman. Give us Brainiac. Give us an alien invasion from Mongel. Give us something that requires Superman and only SUperman to save the day
Continuity by Rei-Ginsei	Oct 12th, 2007 05:48:44 AM
I've never watched it, but Superman Returns is supposed to branch off of Superman II, correct? Didn't Superman II end with Supes holding the American flag and assuring the president that he'd never abandon his duties again? So then Superman Returns picks up with Supes...having abandoned his duties for five years? Superman is well known enough that you could have done a new Superman movie without the origin story, but still made it completely seperate from the movies that went before. That's just my $0.02
Oh yeah and the name of the aforementioned script is... by cameron1975willi	Oct 12th, 2007 05:49:44 AM
SUPERMAN: THE WRATH OF ZOD in case any body wants to read it.
Stamp as ZOD .. cool !! by rguerr2	Oct 12th, 2007 05:51:47 AM
Stamp is doing the voice of Jor-El in Smallville so I can see this rumor being true, but I hope not. I agree with some of the folks here Singer should have done a Superman re-boot not following in Donner's foot steps. I really did not like the movie because it was just a copy of the original. What pissed me off most was that even the dialogue was the same. AHH !!! Don't get me going. The next movie should have a whole new villain from the Superman universe and Braniac would be good. Let's just hope Singer does not fuck it up as he did with Returns.
Hey Bryan, by batmans_pants	Oct 12th, 2007 05:53:15 AM
go read some of the huge volumes of Superman back issues that exist out there. You need inspration bro.
Let the Superman Returns bashing commence! by rbatty024	Oct 12th, 2007 05:55:18 AM
I really liked the original, but I also liked the original. I also have some of my attention span left in that I don't watch a lot of television, I play about one or two video games a year, and I actually read books! Enough of me being flippant, because as much as I liked the original I thought it could have improved on a few things. It was in the shadow of the original movie and Bosworth was terrible in it. That being said, I liked the aspect of the kid, it's a new element we haven's seen before.
Oh God... by cornponious	Oct 12th, 2007 06:07:40 AM
...Zod.
I actually liked Superman Returns quite a bit... by vezner2007	Oct 12th, 2007 06:14:28 AM
and I am looking forward to the sequel. Having Zod back would be an awesome thing to behold. :)
I Don't Really Have a Problem with Zod by kevinwillis.net	Oct 12th, 2007 06:14:39 AM
Coming back, if it's a good movie. The fact that Luthor was in SR didn't have to make it boring. It just was boring. Bryan Singer knows how to do a good movie, and got one thing right in Superman Returns that I think he didn't quite nail in the X-Men movies--fangeeks got to see Supes use the full range of his powers. Which was cool, and done well. I liked the added bonus of Superman getting off on his fame. That was good. Lex Luthor with another real estate scam? Not so much. Plus the scam itself was tedious and stupid, not nearly as cool as Superman: The Movie. Whether it has something to do with Singer being gay or not, his female leads are all wrong: Parker Posey is great, but not as Lex's moll. Kate Bosworth might be good in something I haven't seen yet, but she was a horrible choice for Lois. And, good golly, the pasty long-stringy-haired superkid? Jeeze. Cuts against the superman ethos, for me. Oh, and losing "the American way" . . . "truth, justice, all that stuff?" Come on, Singer. On the positive side, Frank Langella was a great Perry White, Sam Huntington was a pitch-perfect Jimmy Olsen, James Marsden was a great Perry White nephew . . . Cameos by Jack Larson and Noel Neill much appreciated. It certainly had its moments, it just didn't quite gel. The whole superkid thing was not compelling, but then Kate Bosworth as Lois was so underwhelming . . .I'd like to see if a Superman: Man of Steel hits the mark, this time. Oh, and the soundtrack doesn't do it for me. Either they should have brought John Williams back, or done it from scratch. The homage sound track is so full of "see, those five notes were the same, but then I changed it at the end, ain't I clever?", and the variance and original music is so non-John Williams, it's distracting. But I gave SR a chance (and was dubious about Routh, but I think he nailed it) and look forward to the next one. Zod or no Zod. Though I do agree that Braniac or Darksied or possible a large cloud of energy would make a better bad guy than Lex Luthor again.
Hey batmans_pants, by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 06:18:10 AM
Go give youself a spin in the washer you smell of Queef! Jackass!!
Am I the only one who thinks Superman's son will die in this one by TheNorthlander	Oct 12th, 2007 06:18:45 AM
Singer's always been saying he'd do a "Wrath of Khan". I'm no trekker, but wasn't the thing about Wrath of Khan that Kirk's son got killed? Wouldn't that be the point of Superman having a son?
THERE ARE OTHER VILLAINS! by Gozu	Oct 12th, 2007 06:31:43 AM
Brainiac, Bizarro, Darkseid, Doomsday! General Zod was cool...but we've been there and done it already. This film will probably cost $400 million and be 5 hours long too.
No, No and No...... by Jazner	Oct 12th, 2007 06:32:15 AM
Listen, I liked SR too and I understand why Singer made such heavy reference to the Donner film. But now the time has come for Singer's vision of this franchise to step outside of the original RD films and make its own movie. That means a new sotry, with a new villain and a completely new feel. He's already reset the 'universe,' but it's time to expand it now. That said, give me Jason Issacs for Brainiac!!!
terrible news if true by just pillow talk	Oct 12th, 2007 06:36:42 AM
Here's a fucking idea...try something NEW!
FUCK this movie. SR was the worst piece of shit I've ever seen. by DanDelion	Oct 12th, 2007 06:45:48 AM
As it's the only film I've ever FALLEN ASLEEP DURING in the fucking theater. I used to laugh at people for doing that, thinking "How the hell could someone pay for a movie and then fall asleep in a loud theater?!" Well, now I know.
NO ONE i know liked Superman Returns by StrokerX	Oct 12th, 2007 07:05:26 AM
EVERY SINGLE person I know that saw this movie DID NOT LIKE IT, including me!!!!! This movie was GAY, GAY, GAY!!!!!!!!!!
RE: THERE ARE OTHER VILLAINS by GCH888	Oct 12th, 2007 07:20:03 AM
Gozu ... actually you've highlighted the problem with the Superman franchise which is he doesn't really have any standout villains apart from Lex Luthor. The problem with Darkseid, Brainiac and Doomsday is the complex backstory and the fact that they're actually quite boring characters. Compare this with Batman and the myriad of interesting villains in his mythos and suddenly you realise why Superman ends up battling Nuclear Man.
SUPERMAN DOOMSDAY by ndouglas	Oct 12th, 2007 07:30:01 AM
NOW I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF OF THE GENERAL ZOD AND HIS CREW TALKS, MY PERSONAL OPINION THEY WERE THREE IDIOTS IN SUPERMAN 2, NOW IF ANY SAW THE SUPERMAN DOOMSDAY CARTOON MOVIE OR KNOWS THAT STORY, KNOWS THAT IF THEY WERE TO TURN THAT INTO A LIVE ACTION MOVIE IT WOULD BE THE BEST SUPERMAN MOVIE EVER
Justice for Kumar! by kafka07	Oct 12th, 2007 07:31:01 AM
That should be the title of the next Supes flic. Put his lines back in the movie, you bastards!
Gozu, Northlander, Jazner, DanDelion and StrokerX by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 07:32:28 AM
Gozu, Why would it cost 400 Million Dollars and be 5 hours long?? Northlander, I never though of it that way? Jazner, Agreed. DanDelion, Have you ever watched X-Men 3?? StrokerX, See one of my earlier post's for what I think of your post!
Mind Blowing by BackStJoe	Oct 12th, 2007 07:40:06 AM
Superman Returns wasn’t just a good movie, it was a brilliant film. Casting Terrance Stamp as Zod for the sequel would be mind blowing.
dc/warners and missied opportunitys by matrixgeeza	Oct 12th, 2007 07:50:06 AM
supes is my fave character BUT is well indeed of updating. the suit for starters. the film was a chance to start from a fresh, a re-imagaining of krypton, the suit & the fortress. this could have crossed into the comic book. more sci fi adventure than fantasy demi god. i enjoyed returns but feel singer has mde it all the more complicated, kids/lex still a doofus etc etc. alas, give it 15 years and we cab start again.
bring on iron man bitches .... by JeanLuc Dickhard	Oct 12th, 2007 07:59:25 AM
shit fuck the dc
There's already plans for a third sequel... by Prof. Brainiac	Oct 12th, 2007 08:01:59 AM
They're going to bring in Chris Tucker as a computer hacker that creates a program that takes all the fractions of a cent his company rounds up and deposit them in a secret account. He will then be forced to create a supercomputer powered by kryptonite to try and defeat Super-Routh. Tucker does this while yelling to Supes if he understands the words coming out of his mouth. Contact with meth-laced synthetic kryptonite splits Super-Routh makes him have a beer and cheat on Lois. A fourth sequel (in the tentative stages) will bring in Seth Rogan as a mad scientist to create Bizzaro, which Super-Routh will fight on the moon. The laws of physics will be ignored, as both will breathe and hear each other speak in the void of space. All the while, Supes will try to rid the world of dirty bombs by collecting them and throwing them into the sun.
SR - Airplane/Shuttle save was cool. Cut out ALL the other crap by JDanielP	Oct 12th, 2007 08:07:30 AM
(Well, the music made a great return, too.) Despite my HUGE disappointment with "Superman Returns", I'm (at least) curious about a sequel. However, if they don't return the Superman costume to the widely accepted RED AND BLUE design (yellow "S" on cape), then THAT will be the FIRST sign that this project is in trouble. Hell, just scrap the project and absorb it into "JUSTICE LEAGUE" and act like "SUPERMAN RETURNS" never existed. Give us the REAL return of the RED and blue Superman (while returning Brandon Routh).
Superman 2: by rev_skarekroe	Oct 12th, 2007 08:07:39 AM
Part 2!
just like the star trek series by blackshuck	Oct 12th, 2007 08:15:13 AM
..the first movie was overlong, talky, sappy, and devoid of action. HOWEVER just like star trek, the sequel COULD be the supes version of WRATH OF KHAN, with Stamp filling the same role that Mr. Rourke did (previous villian returning for vengeance), with lots of action and great characterization. We can dream, right?
Lose Singer... by Kid Z	Oct 12th, 2007 08:16:46 AM
... And use Darkseid as a villain, with maybe Ugly Mannheim and Morgan edge as his flunkies on Earth. I've been watching reruns of Superman The Animated Series on Disney and that whole Darkseid story arc rocked, especially the episode Apokolips Now! (Which they haven't shown yet on Disney) Use some influences from that story and from that massive throwdown Supes and Darkseid had in the last ep of Justice League Unlimited. I loved that line Supes had about always having to watch himself and feeling like he lived in a world made of cardboard... but that now Darkseid gave him an opportunity to really cut loose! Just the sonic vibrations from Supes and Darkseid's punches were knocking down buildings in that fight! That's what I wanna see in a big-budget superhero movie, kiddies!
I think the idea of long-forgotten by LTChief	Oct 12th, 2007 08:28:53 AM
baddies was done before...it was called "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan"
forgot "returning" by LTChief	Oct 12th, 2007 08:29:34 AM
and hence, there goes my arguement.
There isn't going to BE a sequel. by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 08:34:10 AM
No matter what brain-dead shitheads like "blueballsboy" think. This person who reported this bullshit probably heard them "joking" about it, seeing as Singer's narrow exposure to the character draws from the Donner films ONLY. So let the Singertologists THINK there will be a sequel. Those of us with an IQ higher than our shoe-size know BETTER.
No Zod by Playhouse	Oct 12th, 2007 08:34:50 AM
There needs to be no Zod in a sequel to Superman Returns. If there is, that will just lend even more creedence to the idea that Singer has no originality when it comes to Superman and is just copying what Donner did. I happened to like Superman Returns but I can see the issues people had with it. (I will never condone bringing a kid into the mix. Bad move.) I happened to think it was a smart move to base the movie in a filtered continuity of the Donner films. As much as people gripe about it, I think those movies - and Christopher Reeve - are about as definitive to the character as anything. So I liked where Singer was going. Returns wasn't flawless by any means. And a sequel could give Singer a chance to really shine with the character. But bringing Zod back in would be a tremendous disservice. I'm already not keen on having Luthor back. Bring on Brainiac. Bring on Darkseid. Bring on something we haven't seen before.
stalkerdude 2: return of the worst superhero movie by JacksonsPole	Oct 12th, 2007 08:36:09 AM
seriously. singer really f*cked up.
I cant beleive it!! by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 08:37:13 AM
Someone compared Bryan Singer to Paul WS Anderson?? Has the world gone mad!! What next Steven Speilberg and Uwe Boll??
I still say Singer should do my idea by Purgatori	Oct 12th, 2007 08:38:05 AM
and that is to have Zod's son by the super bitch that was conceived while they were in the Phantom Zone show up to kick the ass of his father's jailer. I've said for a while that Jude Law would be good for this part or Stewart Townsend. Epic fights man..that's what we need. And bring back Stamp. Zod fucking rules. KNEEL!
Hey Kal El Vis.... by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 08:40:55 AM
Where the fuck have you been hiding? I was waiting for your stupid moniker to pop up on this talkback. Ladies and Gentlemen of AICN, I'd like to introduce you to Kal El Vis, he enjoys long walks in the rain and Pina colladas on the beach and is looking to meet that special some one who will actually call him back after bricking in his mouth the night before.
Banging your "wife", blueballsboy... by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 08:50:02 AM
That FAT bitch is LOOSE. Jesus, both fists? At the SAME TIME??
Superman Returns sucks by LORDRANDO	Oct 12th, 2007 08:50:24 AM
I honeslty remember nothing from that movie...except the part with the plane....otherwise, even Parker Posey was made one dimensional....
MELTING OWL & UNSOCIABLE HAMMER... by Shermdawg	Oct 12th, 2007 08:51:58 AM
...need to stage a sick-out to force the writers to end the series in a better fashion than what we've been getting. Last night, even though they thankfully pulledthe "cloned Lana" episode was horrible. Smallville has had more than it' share of crap episodes, but this season s really taking the cake. The show has done wonders for attemptng to modernize the property (to an extent), and doesn't soley exist so whoever can rehash the Donner flicks, or Star Trek, or whatever, but dammit, THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER, because right now it's pure shit. (Which is still a few levels higher than Returns.)
SINGER: PLEASE STOP DIRECTING ACTION MOVIES. by THE_ONE_MAN_GANG	Oct 12th, 2007 08:53:29 AM
SR was horrible.if you think about it, How can you even fuck up a superman movie? And x men 1 and 2 are over rated also...its just because its the f-ing x men in a movie that we like it...they were both missed opportunities...
Singerman 2: Zod. No, seriously. Zod. by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 08:56:46 AM
Yeah, the people will EAT IT UP!! Start counting those HUNDREDS of DOLLARS you're going to make, Alan Horn!
AverageMan by FILMFUNK	Oct 12th, 2007 09:04:59 AM
Superman Returns was weird! I didn't know going in it was a full on re-make, I thought it was a new take with a flavouring of the original like the casting of someone who looked a lot like Reeves was about the only thing that worked and worked well. The fact it just rehashed everything else made it a yawn fest. Please let the sequel be as well produced and visually solid but don't just do a re-tread of Superman 2 with zod and the gang etc WHAT'S the Point!? Give us a few new stories! jesus he's been around a good long while enough for some decent material surely and a different bad guy please no LEX FRIKIN LOOOOTHOR!
In your dreams, Kal El Vis by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 09:04:59 AM
And she aint fat, it's a gland thing! I suppose I could right something equally inane like "Your Mum bucks harder than mechanical bull" but I wont! Or "What shampoo do You use to get rid of your Mums Queef smell from your dick, I tried Head and Shoulders but it still smells" but I have more class than that!
Go for it, Bryan! by Joeri	Oct 12th, 2007 09:07:34 AM
It's entertaining to read how people love to trash things. But although mister Singer may have misfired with Superman Returns, I still think he's one of the most talented directors in Hollywood. He doesn't play it safe. With or without Zod or Brainiac - I think he pretty much listens to his fans and has learnt from the criticsm on Superman Returns. Less Donner, more Singer, something new and a lot more action: I expect Superman: Man of Steel to be a goddamned masterpiece. Go for it, Bryan!
ReBoot? by CaptainWalker	Oct 12th, 2007 09:09:47 AM
Wait till the sequel...as bad as Singers movie may have been, it was no way NEAR as bad as S:TQFP. Let this run out, Let them make a mediocre fizzle, and then let's bring in a writer, (Not a director) with an idea for a low budget,... very low budget, reboot.
The plot was just leaked... by Stalin vs Predator	Oct 12th, 2007 09:11:46 AM
Zod, Ursa and Non recover their powers in a freak incident and they break out of the Earth jail. They kill people! Meantime, Routh catches up with Teenlois and sacrifices his powers to spend the rest of his life with her (and the Superdiaper). Then the trio invades... NOT the White House, but the UN Headquarters. (Don't worry, the UN HQ is still in the US, so it's a good film location.) Kevin Spacey shows up and promises Zod that he can help out - in a shocking twist, he demands New Zealand as payment. Marlon Brando, photorealistically restored by amazing new technology and then obscured by five walls of ice and a cloud of smoke, shows up and gives Routh back his powers. Routh fights the trio until they chase him into his Ice Fortress... but there, he simply tricks them... AND WINS! Roll end credits. "Original story" by Brian Singer. "Screenplay" by The Two Guys That Also Had The Credit For The "Screenplay" In 'Returns'.
yeah, a sequel seems unlikely now... by RockLobster800	Oct 12th, 2007 09:13:49 AM
maybe they'll "Hulk" it-just revamp with a smaller budget and less hype in a few years time and pretend the first one never happened. I actually thought SR was okay but with gaping flaws...and the potential for a definitive Superman film (drawing from the entire vibe of the comics, the darker elements, making notes on the animated show and utilising all the material availible etc) seems to have been wasted there. I mean Nolan is sticking to a definate mood for his Batman flicks but at least his acknowledges a range of source material to get it from (Long Halloween, Year One The Man Who Falls etc) instead of "well, I loved Tim Burtons version so...Im gonna copy that". Jesus, I mean even Peter Jackson ranted about his love of the original King Kong but his remake wasnt exactly carbon copying things from film to film!
Painting the new Superman movies in a corner... by EriamJH	Oct 12th, 2007 09:14:01 AM
... isn't because of following Donner's universe. They now painted themselves in a corner by having a love child. Any sequel will HAVE to follow up with that stupid storyline, and it will be a burden. A soap opera version, to say the least. Whether Supes will be fighting Zod, Brainiac, or a giant spider, he will still have to face the paternity suit. A great earth-saving fight only to be interupted with this sappy father/son stuff. 10 to 1 odds that the kid buys it in the end of this sequel -- saving the day or what have you -- and Supes will have a revenge motive. Goddam Hollywood cliches.
Get Over the Reeves Movies Already ... by cowboyone	Oct 12th, 2007 09:15:23 AM
Let's move on with the franchise. A seventy year old General Zod ain't gonna be very scary. WTF?! We want to see Supes fight somebody ... preferably not a septugenarian.
Supes is a stalker! Supes is a deadbeat dad! WAAAAAAAHHHH!!! by Osmosis Jones	Oct 12th, 2007 09:15:36 AM
Christ, find something else to complain about.
hey boy blue by batmans_pants	Oct 12th, 2007 09:15:58 AM
Way to go. Your agument has overwhelmed me. I cannot possibly retort to such an itelligent comment. When does your mommy pick you up from kiddie play?
Oh, forgot the end twist... by Stalin vs Predator	Oct 12th, 2007 09:16:30 AM
It's actually the kid that saves Superouth and defeats the villains. And there are shots of a puppy, too!
I say kill the child. Read the book, it demands for blood.... by The Dum Guy	Oct 12th, 2007 09:16:40 AM
If only to make Supes go ape shit.
why oh why do people forget... by gottaeat	Oct 12th, 2007 09:28:07 AM
that if LOIS had her memory wiped she wouldn't remember sex with superman, so she'd be getting morning sickness and thinking she was having a christ child... sans sex n all.... so the movie doesn't really follow the original movies all that well. btw, I have some of that "wipe your memory clean" orange juice if any of you guys wanna hit on a chain smoking, crazy as a shit house bat reporter crouching in the bushes outside. I'm just putting that out there.
batmans_pants by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 09:29:02 AM
It wasnt an argument, your earlier post was stupid and redundant so I felt inspired to retort with something as equaly stupid and redundant!
When they reboot, they should reboot by CherryValance	Oct 12th, 2007 09:31:30 AM
I didn't enjoy the fact that Judi Dench was M in Casino Royale. Mainly because I don't remember Q inventing a time machine. It made no sense. In this case it would also be pretty damn stupid to include Stamp. Think about it. This Supes looks a lot younger than Reeve was, even if he's relatively the same age. But then Stamp is like what, 30 years older than he was? And looks it. Nope sorry. The only reason I want to see a sequel is because I think Routh makes a great Superman, but they really have to get it right this time. Because that SUPERMAN RETURNS was an abomination, imo. Especially the kid.
Hey Kids - here's an idea by Sprocket Boy	Oct 12th, 2007 09:32:13 AM
Why don't we put our heads together and come up with...oh I don't know....an ORIGINAL IDEA. I mean come on. If you're going to reboot something do it with a little bit of that grey matter in your skulls. 'Returns' was okay but I would think that there are many story lines that could be used without the baldy or something that is has already been done. Just one users opinion. Take it with a grain of glowy green stuff.
KNEEL BEFORE HAM!!! by BringingSexyBack	Oct 12th, 2007 09:32:49 AM
Singer doesn't have a clue what Superman is. Now he wants to remake Superman II? Hand the reins to somebody else before he blows another $500 Million. What a fucking hack.
I remember when people were claiming there... by rbatty024	Oct 12th, 2007 09:34:11 AM
was no way Singer would be able to helm the sequel because of the mediocre box office of the original. Well, those who enjoyed the first movie got what they want and Singer's continuing his and Donner's vision. Take that bitches!
In my NIGHTMARES, bluballsboy by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 09:35:26 AM
I STILL see those chalk white thighs, spider-ey veins snaking up to those sloppy, droopy meat-flaps every time I close my eyes. shudder. But on the positive side, she didn't mind me spunking on her face, so THAT was "good"... I love how THIS is the best they can do here. Post a "I heard from someone who heard something from another guy about Terence Stamp and Bryan Singer. That MUST mean he is going to play ZOD!!". Gimme me a break.
Retlaw Kciuq by CherryValance	Oct 12th, 2007 09:39:07 AM
I agree about Jude Law. If they have to have Zod, he's the obvious choice.
Where did this 500 Million BS come from?? by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 09:39:37 AM
You must be including the 1001 fucked up attempts at making a Superman film into the Returns budget?? Thats just unfair and in no way should should Singer have to take shit because WB funded Nicholas Cage's hair peices for a few years!
WHO CARES??? by GMONEY1130	Oct 12th, 2007 09:45:38 AM
Bryan Singer is overrated! Superman Returns what a piece of shit. How do you screw up that bad and then be asked to do the next one. I put him in the same category as MCG and Ratner.
rbatty024 and blueballsboy by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 09:49:16 AM
See what kind of "people" WANT a sequel to the snooze-fest called Singerman Repugnant? And these fuckheads can't see they are in the MINORITY!
Kal El Vis? by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 09:50:31 AM
You missed the e out of Blueballsboy? What the fuck are you retarded? If your gonna give me a new name at least spell it properly! Oh and I spoke to my wife she said you where hung like a hamster and you wouldnt climax until she stuck the TV remote up your ass, what the fucks all that about?
Problem with SR by Johnno	Oct 12th, 2007 09:52:14 AM
For one I hate the idea that Supes just slept with Lois once or something in the previous Donner film... I don't fucking buy it, I don't even think Donner implied it and however you feel about casual sex I never pictured Supes to do that, you don't get that feel from the early comics or films so this just doesn't follow. I mean it's one thing to do something different with a character, but this was just friggin awkward. I don't even see how it added to the theme of Clark's lonliness or Supes quest or whatever... Also Superman returns was heavily lacking on action. First and foremost we EXPECT a good action superhero film... Sure be sentimental and whatever and all that it's all good, but come one... we wait a long time for an updated superman film with all the FX wizardry and we don't get ANY action payoff... that's just friggin disappointing. The superman videogame commercials looked more exciting! All he did was lift shit, which is fine and iconic but c'mon... Sure those of you who liked it may like sentimental character introspective films and I also think Returns did that aspect well, but that's not all I want to see from a Superman movie... When I think Superman I think about him kicking some ass too! In fact that's the first thing I expect! You can have both! And this film only had one, and it picked the more boring of the two!
Stupid and redundant? by batmans_pants	Oct 12th, 2007 10:02:07 AM
Are you telling me that Bryan Singers last Supes effort was new and original? Have a good read at the opinion of other TBs postting here. You'll find that there are more then a few people who would agree that the last movie lacked any form of originality and brought us nothing new. This didn't build on Donner's vision, it just replicated it, and made it a little duller in the process. If the speculation about bringing Zod and Lex back as the main protagonoists AGAIN for part two of Singer's Superman is true, then it's just the same old thing with a better effects and less soul. I love the character of Superman. I just don't think Bryan Singer has the balls to move on. I want Superman to be, well...Super. the last film copied plot points and structure of the original. It was an imitation of Donner's film with better effects. I'v seen Superman battle Lex Luthor. I've seen Zod. I want something new for my cash. WB should insist on the same.
blueballsboy by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:02:34 AM
Pot and kettle: "If your gonna give me a new " Your? I don't HAVE a "gonna". What an asshole. And your wife would think ANYONE smaller than a tree-stump was "hung like a hamster".
You're just trying to get a rise out of us, aren't you, Quint? by Laserbrain	Oct 12th, 2007 10:08:44 AM
I'm not biting.
The Nugget is that its going to be just as boring as the first o by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 10:11:12 AM
fucking shit movie.
I love some of the SR haters responses. by rbatty024	Oct 12th, 2007 10:14:44 AM
"That movie was shit." "It was gay because people weren't hitting each other." There are two or three posts that at least have logical arguments about why they didn't like the movie. I may disagree with them, but at least I can respect them.
Isn't this what got Bryan in trouble in the first place? by IAmLegolas	Oct 12th, 2007 10:15:25 AM
Sticking too closely to the 80's movies where it almost felt like a remake? How about something new for a change? Gilbert Godfried as MR. MXYZPTLK. Something, anything new....
wtf??? by chc108	Oct 12th, 2007 10:16:13 AM
superman returns was pretty much an updated version of donner's original superman movie. does that mean "man of steel" will be a modernized version of superman 2? i agree with some of the other posters in that, singer has to go. there is SOOOO much that can be done with the superman legend... it's a shame that it seems to be stuck on crappy story lines.
Uh, you DO remember... by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:17:12 AM
That AICN was slobbering on Singers balls when this came out, right? Remember that stupid contest for those shit-ugly "statues"? The interview with BJ Routh where they fawned all over his emaciated ass? Follow the clues to see where their "allegiance" lays. Or LIES.
2 things by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 10:17:55 AM
batmans_pants, there is a whole world outside of an AICN talkback, A world of people who experienced life, sunshine, fresh air and people who enjoyed Superman Returns, so sorry if I aint going with the flow of other people on this talkback, long ago I thought this site was where people got together to compare tastes in film, Until I saw what the majority of the TB tards on this site post and showed me I was wrong, it's a place for whiny turds to complain and call things they dont understand gay! And secondly Kal El Vis, im sorry I lost the will to read your last post, so your basically saying what exactly? And tell your mum to stop calling me, I told her after the paternity test im not your father, there was 15 of us there that night and I didnt shoot my load becuse honestly it was like dropping a roll of Carpet of the edge of the Grand Canyon by the time it was my turn!!
BackStJoe by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 10:18:49 AM
Sarcasm?
Re: WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? DID THE EARTH GO BACK IN TIME? by IAmLegolas	Oct 12th, 2007 10:19:01 AM
right!!! I'm starting to think I'm reliving my childhood movie experiences all over again. Is a remake of STAR WARS just around the corner, too?
Hey, rbatfucko24 by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:20:19 AM
Didn't YOU post this "gem" just a few minutes ago? "Well, those who enjoyed the first movie got what they want and Singer's continuing his and Donner's vision. Take that bitches!". Yeah, YOU are one "classy" guy, deserving of "respect". Fucking moron...
Who will play Richard Pryor in the 3rd "Returns"? by INWOsuxRED	Oct 12th, 2007 10:21:29 AM
Terrance Stamp as Zod couldn't be more perfectly in the wrong direction for this wannabe franchise.
But I will apologise for my Spelling ! by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 10:21:39 AM
Im using a Wii to post and well it isnt very precise to say the least!
Kal Reeve - cmon dude, the movie was lyrical??? by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 10:23:49 AM
WHAT??? You call the bit where Supes stalks Lois and then goes off into space to meditate then stops a bank robbery but doesn't stop it, he just stands there, gets shot in the eye and then smiles and then it cuts??? WHAT THE FUCK!!! That was offensive filmmaking. Read a comic book.
I LOVE it!!! by The Moseph	Oct 12th, 2007 10:24:30 AM
Terrence Stamp returning as Zod would be ULTRA FRIKKIN' COOL!!!!!!!!
boyblue by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 10:25:23 AM
You don't promise to make a film and say the sequel will be better, you make a good film and hope the second is just as good, if not better. Films like Star Wars. It wasn't a film set up for the better sequel The Empire Strikes Back. It was a good film in itself.
Given what they came up with last time... by WhoDis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:30:37 AM
the whole thought of a sequel is totally ludicrous. You're talking about people that aren't even mediocre. Best to let the subject drop *** Creep in Cantina: "Hey--Wanna talk Superman Returns?" *** Obi-Wan (waving hand): "You don't want to talk about Superman. You want to go home and rethink your life." Creep: I don't want to talk about Superman. I want to go home and re-think my life.
boyblue "I'm using a Wii to post" by WhoDis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:32:25 AM
You lose at the internet.
For all the Superman Returns fans: by mrfan	Oct 12th, 2007 10:32:42 AM
I have a couple of questions that have been bugging me. Maybe someone can help. If SR is suppose to follow the older movies then how does Lois know that the child is Superman's even though she doesn't remember sleeping with him? Is this movie suppose to stand on its own merits without the help of the original? Is this just a remake of the original? Just curious.
How can anyone say Routh was perfect by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 10:33:42 AM
He had about 5 lines mimicing Chris Reeve and looked like a guy forced to look like Superman.
blueballsboy TAPS OUT!! by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:34:25 AM
Yep, that Singertologist lame-brain threw in the towel!! "I don't know how to say words when I make fun of you're spelling 'cuz I spellded wrong but I ignore it 'cuz I'm a-smartest than you're smart". Did I speak in your language, mongoloid? And clean the jizz out of your ear, fuckwad. It's YOUR mom calling, asking which of the 15 dogs she humped last night has Herpes. You sneaky-monkey, it's YOU who has Herpes, isn't it?
Hey, WhoDis by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:37:20 AM
He MEANT to say: "I play with a wee-wee when I post on the internets".
messi by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 10:39:02 AM
Sorry I was a bit shocked by your post, Sorry im just in the middle of humouring some douche called Kal El Vis. But yeah I agree thats not how things should work but then again I dont consider Superman Returns to be a bad film, quite the opposite in fact, I thought it was great, but I do think as great as it was there where certain things that should be built on and ramped up for the sequel. I think we have had our re-introduction to Superman, certain things have been set up, Singer has struck the balance between what needed to be new and what could be re-used from the other films and now is the time for a sequel that can break new ground, and I cant wait for it to happen.
Good Lord, just replace Singer already. by The Founder	Oct 12th, 2007 10:39:07 AM
I've always thought that Singer was bad for Superman. When i heard Singer say he's going to be "making his first chick flick" I knew this movie was going to be bland.
Superman Continues To Return II: Otisburg by Aquatarkusman	Oct 12th, 2007 10:41:16 AM
Ned Beatty returns; Superman, drained by lifting a Kryptonite-infused continent, which is fucking stupid to begin with, cannot budget the portly Otis, and gets melted ice cream all over his hair, causing him to weep uncontrollably. Estimated running time: 4.5 hours.
A sequel could work if by TheNothing	Oct 12th, 2007 10:42:29 AM
the first scene is Supes snapping Singer's neck and hiring a better director who can actually deliver great action (i.e. Guillermo Del Toro, Gore Verbinski, Peter Jackson, Paul Greengrass, and the list goes on).
Kal Reeve, get real. by Tai_Pan	Oct 12th, 2007 10:43:28 AM
"Several" AICN regs are posting hate, huh? The film was shit. Superrouth couldn't act to save his life. That alone would have been enough to kill the movie. But in addition, we basically get a remake of Superman 1 except the fine performances of Reeve et al are replaced with a league of truly Super-shitty performances from Bosworth, Spacey (whose supervillain name should have been "did-I-really-sign-this-contra ct-guess-I'll-railroad-the-mov ie-with-my-ridiculous-performa nce-man") Kal Pen, Routh, Supe's mom, Perry White, and Jimmy Olsen. The only likeable character was Marsden's, whose character is far more of a hero than the emotional cold-fish stalker and wife snatcher from another planet. Singer should have just copied and pasted scenes from S1 wholecloth. Why is frikkin KAL PENN beating up Superman? That's ridiculous. And Routh gave the worst performance I saw that entire year during his would-be tear-jerker speech to Superbastard. My God, man. Get out of acting immediately. Maybe I should go lighter on him since that speech was ridulous and hammy from the very first word... the script as a whole is only slightly better, whose only shining points were ripped from the S1 movie thanks to the Screenwriters/Singer's masturbatory obsession with Dick Donner. Oh yeah, the suit looked absolutely awful. Looks like they took evil-Superman's costume from S3, took it to a tailor and said "I LOVE these shitty drab colors, but I was wondering if we could make this suit about 82-87% gayer." It's distracting.... kinda like the crap non-Williams music that wanders in and out. The movie was GIANT FAILURE in my estimation, and I wish it was never made, because it taints my image of other, worthier Superman projects (and even the lesser ones. I liked all 4 Reeve films FAR better, and yes I'm talking to you Richard Pryor and Nuclear Man). This movie made Superman a deadbeat dad who abandoned Earth, stalked his ex, tried to take another man's woman who even Lois wouldn't wait 2 months for. Hopefully in the next movie Superman won't stare into people's private lives. That's gross.
Bad idea. by jrbarker	Oct 12th, 2007 10:45:47 AM
Let's try something new, for pete's sake! Give me Brainiac, Doomsday or even Black frickin' Manta. Not something we've seen before.
You have to admit, John Ottman's score was better than John Will by Musicballs	Oct 12th, 2007 10:48:41 AM

Sorry Kal El Vis by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 10:49:14 AM
Im still here I havent tapped out! Im just waiting for you to show some sign of intelligence in one of your posts, this Singerman Repugnant shit you keep spouting isnt getting you anywhere except the last nerve of some true film fans! Dont worry though I hear they are casting the deliverence remake near you, get yourself along I bet your a shoe in for the Ned Beaty role!
Yes sir, blueballsboy is DONE. by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 10:52:45 AM
It's funny how I insult the SHIT out of him, and he has ZERO replies handy, so he pulls out the: "I'm waiting for you to say somethin' a-smart 'cuz I still smartest then you're smart. Poopy-head!". And Ottman's score took the BALLS out of Williams'. ANYONE who thinks it is "better" needs to get their hearing tested. Pronto.
I love Superman 2 for by Defrost	Oct 12th, 2007 10:52:51 AM
how hilariously bad it is. All Zod says is Kneel Before Zod over and over again. I laugh my ass off.
You SUPERMAN RETURNS haters are idiots by TTMan	Oct 12th, 2007 10:57:50 AM
As if anyone gave a damn about what a handful of comic book-literate, angst-ridden 42 year olds think. SUPERMAN RETURNS was one of the few comic book movies which wasn't predictable or adolescent. Here's to SUPERMAN: MAN OF STEEL.
Loved SR, would like something more original for sequel by FatRat	Oct 12th, 2007 10:58:06 AM
As much as I loved SR, I don't want to see a return of General Zod or Lex Luthor. Let's see something we haven't seen before. Let's see Darkseid or Doomsday. Doomsday would be great because you have a sequel right there. Leave Supes dead at the end and have the next movie where he comes back.
From James Berardinelli by TTMan	Oct 12th, 2007 10:59:15 AM
At the end of Superman II, the producers promised "Coming Soon: Superman III." It has taken 26 years for that promise to be fulfilled. To be sure, there were movies in the 1980s called Superman III and Superman IV, but those were bad jokes masquerading as motion pictures, unimaginative stories cashing in on a pay-day. These many years later, Bryan Singer has gotten it right. In fact, Superman Returns is not only a credit to the first two Superman movies; it may be the best of the series. Its combination of romance and fantasy adventure is unparalleled in superhero comic book-to-movie sagas. What differentiates Superman Returns from the average superhero movie is its focus on the love story between Superman (Brandon Routh) and Lois Lane (Kate Bosworth). If you think Mary Jane and Peter Parker are star crossed, they've got nothing on this couple. Of course, the Lois/Superman pairing has never been simple. Clark Kent has always been lurking around. Now, there are further complications. With Superman having been away from Earth for the better part of a half-decade, Lois has moved on in a big way. She has a son, Jason (Tristan Leabu), and a boyfriend, Richard (James Marsden), although she resolutely refuses to marry him. Maybe it has something to do with the man of her dreams. Some may not appreciate the amount of screen time devoted to these characters and their romantic interaction but, for me, it provides balance. Suddenly, Superman Returns has more to offer than a megalomaniac seeking world dominion -although it has that as well. When last we saw Lex Luthor (Kevin Spacey), he was played by Gene Hackman and was off to prison. So, like Superman, he has been out of the spotlight for a while. He's "yesterday's news." Once free, however, he is more determined than ever to make his mark on the face of the globe. He visits Superman's Fortress of Solitude and pilfers all the crystals. With these, he intends to create a new continent and destroy a few of the old ones in the process. Superman, newly returned from a futile outer space search for other survivors from Krypton, will (of course) oppose his old nemesis, but this time Luthor is ready for him. Revenge is a dish served cold, with Kryptonite icing. Superman's return to once again aid mankind may be short-lived. Gone are Christopher Reeve, Margot Kidder, and Gene Hackman. It's a credit to their replacements that they're not missed, at least within the context of the film. Brandon Routh channels his predecessor, although his version of Clark is a little less gawky. Kate Bosworth provides an altogether different take on Lois - a sexier, more modern view. She's prettier than Kidder, and there's more chemistry in her scenes with her co-star. Kevin Spacey's Luthor is cut from the same mold as Hackman's, except he's more cruel and less flippant. He has his share of one-liners but, when it comes down to it, he doesn't waste time with drawn-out monologues. That's when he's at his most brutal. There are no miscasts to be found in the supporting cast, either. Parker Posey's Kitty fills the function of Miss Teschmacher - Luthor's female stooge who has a soft spot for the Man of Steel. James Marsden, following director Bryan Singer to Metropolis from Professor X's school, has the tricky role of playing the foil in Lois and Superman's romance without coming across as a jerk. Richard is a nice guy. Eva Marie Saint plays Clark's Earth mother, who gets to find her son and almost lose him again. The only returning cast member from the original Superman is Marlon Brando, with archival footage recreating his limited part as Jor-El, Superman's biological father. For those who go to superhero movies for the action, rest assured there's plenty of that. While the extended climactic sequence is the movie's longest and most involved, I was partial to the rescue of a space shuttle and airplane, which heralds the Man of Steel's return to his adopted planet. It's a great moment, filled with tension, and topped off with top-notch special effects. Visually, Superman Returns offers the kind of upgrade one would expect after a quarter century layoff. This time, you really believe a man can fly. Composer John Ottman puts his ego aside and gives John Williams' original music plenty of play. Singer provides us with a blast from the past with opening credits. Not only is the music 100% Williams, but the lettering nearly replicates that which was used in Superman and Superman II. There are other unobtrusive homages to the first two films, from Lois' spelling faux pas to Luthor's love of maps. Singer may not be a fan of the Superman comic books, but his affection for and knowledge of what Richard Donner brought to the screen is evident. Superman Returns clocks in at a fat 157 minutes, but I hardly noticed the passage of time. The movie had me enthralled from opening to closing. One could easily argue that Singer used his time in the X-Men universe as an opportunity to hone his superhero movie skills. Superman Returns is near the top - if not at the top - of the superhero movie pile. It offers nearly everything: romance, action, humor, and plenty of goose bumps. For Superman, many happy returns. © 2006 James Berardinelli
Tell Superman I'm Coming... Tell Him I'm F*cking COMING!!!! by Frank Black	Oct 12th, 2007 10:59:15 AM
Even if I was a little underwhelmed by Superman Returns I liked it a lot and I like how Singer is continuing the series with elements of the older films in place. Anyone who has seen The Limey (and loved it) would love to see Stamp return as Zod! Make it happen Singer!
Kal El Vis has left the building by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 11:00:48 AM
Poophead? what are you fucking six? Your the douche that started hurling insults about my wife 6 posts ago, im sorry but I aint gonna humour you all day, Thats what your balls and your moms mouth is for.
Superballsuckerman Returns by shitstorm23	Oct 12th, 2007 11:00:55 AM
That piece of shit was so terrible, I threw up a little and it left a better taste in my mouth. The worst part, was that it would be SO EASY to make a decent film, but Singer is so fucking gay, he has to make a film literally sucking Donners cock. Don't you have any vision? Can't you figure out a new direction to take the earth's greatest hero? And people that think Spacey was good as Lex, we will just never see eye to eye. He was terrible, he's a good actor, but not for Luthor. Maybe in some elseworlds gay Metropolis he was a good Lex, but not in the continuity I know. Maybe that's what I missed, this was a different reality and everyone was gay, that makes a lot more sense. Zod is cool, we all know that, but wouldn't you want a new villian? One that Supes hasn't beat down already? Darkseid, Brainiac, well, he doesn't really have many other good villians. Fuck Singer, I can't wait for this franchise to reboot in 10 years.
From THE HOUSTON CHRONICLE by TTMan	Oct 12th, 2007 11:01:00 AM
The Man of Steel is back, and thank goodness Go to showtimes By AMY BIANCOLLI For the Chronicle TOOLS Email Get section feed Print Subscribe NOW Comments Recommend RESOURCES • Trailer • Web site • Movie photos • Talk about it MOVIE DETAILS Superman Returns MPAA Rating PG-13 for some intense action violence Running Time 154 minutes Released Jun 28, 2006 (Nationwide) Distributed By Warner Bros. Pictures Official Web Site She never could spell worth a darn, but Lois Lane has gone and won a Pulitzer - for an editorial headlined, "Why the World Doesn't Need Superman." Considering Lois', ahem, history with the Man of Steel, this might seem hypocritical, but he did fly off without saying goodbye at the end of Superman II. He's now been absent for five years - he was on the hunt for chunks of his home planet, Krypton - and Lois has gone on to other things. Hooked up with a nice boy (James Marsden of X-Men). Had a kid. Won that Pulitzer. Snap on you, Superman. The title before us is Superman Returns, however, so we know what happens. Mr. Hot Pants isn't back long enough to find an apartment in Metropolis (where alter-ego-butterfingers Clark Kent labors at the Daily Planet) when he's called upon to rescue Lois on a jet that's coupled to a malfunctioning space shuttle. Kazooming through the atmosphere, Superman handily hefts aside the shuttle and catches the jet before it nosedives into a crowded baseball stadium. The fans roar. As well they should. Superman returns not just to theaters but to form: He's as spiffy and hunky and true as he was when Christopher Reeve first donned the bitty red Speedo in 1978, and if he seems a bit more puppyish than he did then, the new look becomes him. Director Bryan Singer — who helmed the first two, superior X-Men — has found a Reeve look-alike and almost-sound-alike (not quite as nostrily) in Brandon Routh, but he's also found and roused the pulse of a fading franchise. I'm relieved earlier efforts to update Superman, Batman-style, into an angstier superhero died, because an angsty Superman is no Superman at all; updating him is like trying to bake Twinkies with aspartame. There's the square jaw. The steel-plate chest. The impermeable black helmet of plasticine hair. Super-de-duper strength, super-de-duper ears (to hear the cries of suffering people or, short of that, office gossip), super-duper eyes to see through walls and crush advancing bullets. He uses this awesome skill set to fight way-bald evildoer Lex Luthor, whose scheme to grow a new continent made of Kryptonite should yield much wealth for him and a bad case of dropsy for Superman. Kevin Spacey plays Luthor like he's making love to him, his buttery menace wrapped in a Gatsby wardrobe. As Miss Lane, Kate Bosworth is less of a tough nut than Margot Kidder's proto-Lois, who wouldn't have been caught dead eating veggie wraps with the family. But I enjoyed Parker Posey as Lex's dim floozy and Eva Marie Saint in an itty-bitty bit as Clark's human ma. I also enjoyed resurrected clips of the late Marlon Brando as his biological dad, Jor-El, who correctly asserts, "By now I will have been dead many thousands of your years." Is this a more modern Superman? Yes, it's set in the 24/7 global village, and the computerized visuals are astounding: Superman has never flown so artfully, believably or fast. But he hasn't changed from the upright, overgrown Boy Scout of yore, though his knickers do ride lower on his hips. Singer has made a film that honors its subject to the point of reverence. It may move a little slowly, it may dwell a little much on Superman's levitating, backlit form, and it may criminally waste Kal Penn. But you know what? The boy in blue is back. The world needs him, all right, and it should welcome his Return. amy.biancolli@chron.com
Kneel before Priscilla, Queen of the Desert! I mean ZOD! by anchorite	Oct 12th, 2007 11:01:44 AM
You do realize that this would be Singer further copying Donner's movies and thus painting himself even further into a corner, not somehow freeing himself...right?
Singer's super hero movies by veritasses	Oct 12th, 2007 11:03:20 AM
lack emotion, which is sort of a problem since super heroes are exaggerations. We have higher expectations of super heroes, they tackle tougher obstacles, they fight bigger battles, their kindness and self sacrifice towards earth/humanity has no bounds, they perform tasks that we morals dream we could accomplish etc. Similarly, the antagonists are the exact opposite. We despise them more because they have a greater capacity for evil and do greater damage then normal criminals, they have no remorse, etc etc. The Hero genre should be approached and handled differently then conventional movies. So when these character perform their heroic deeds, our adrenalin should be pumping and we should feel like we want to jump out of our seat. Yet, I never felt those emotional highs or lows with X, X2, or SR. There were moments when tensions would rise and all but they never actually went as far as they needed to go. Those movies were "good" but not what I think what they should've been. It could be just me though.
Sequel by Darth Kosher	Oct 12th, 2007 11:03:57 AM
This sequel could be to Superman Returns as The Wrath of Khan was to Star Trek: The Motion Picture (original cut). I just hope they don't go the route that every odd numbered movie sucks. Or have Superman go back in time and save whales or some shit. It's been done.
Certified "Fresh" on Rotten Tomatoes.com by TTMan	Oct 12th, 2007 11:04:11 AM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ m/superman_returns/
TT Man & FatRat by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 11:05:14 AM
At last some fellow Superman Returns fans amongst this quagmire of Homophobic smallville fans and trolls!! Welcome friends, watch out for Kal El Vis he bites, humps your leg and pee's on your carpet, if he comes anywhere near you just kick him in the balls!
Amy Biancolli is an idiot! by anchorite	Oct 12th, 2007 11:05:55 AM
The movie was a huge let-down. The SFX were not believable at all. In fact, every time it's on TV and I see that creepy CGI Superman face fly by, I get the willies. He looks as bad as the horrible Zemeckis mo-cap animation. Why they felt the need to use a computer generated face instead of Routh's is beyond me. All I know is, it looks awful. And the story was terrible! It should have been called My Baby's Daddy Can Lift! or Stalkerman Lifts! It was tripe.
"Otisburg? OH-TIS-BURG???" by EriamJH	Oct 12th, 2007 11:06:30 AM
Bring it on!
One of the problems was the continued use of Lex Luthor and by anchorite	Oct 12th, 2007 11:07:53 AM
his real estate schemes. How is a return of Zod any different? Do these people have no friggin' imagination? Break out of the comfort zone, Bryan Singer. For the sake of the franchise, please don't return to old territory!
TTMoron by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 11:08:44 AM
Can't make up your OWN "mind", asshole? We don't need to hear what a few random idiots think. See, WE can see shit for shit, we don't need to gorge ourselves on it to KNOW it's shit. Wipe the corn off your top lip, Corkey.
"It's Just a Little Bitty Place" by Aquatarkusman	Oct 12th, 2007 11:09:31 AM
Wow, verbatim printing of reviews. Awesome. Look, if this was handled well, it should have made billions. Nobody cares about re-explorations of old villains. As Sean Penn once said in Fast Times at Ridgemont High: "No Brainiac, NO DICE!"
From meh to ugh! by Det David Mills	Oct 12th, 2007 11:11:09 AM
No thank you to a second helping of Bryan Singers Ass Expectorant! If they have to make a sequel, just have Superman fly around the world at the beginning...and have a giant Do Over!! I could list all of my gripes about SR, but that would take all day. I can say that it did look purdy and had some kick ass action, but other than that...UGH! I do like me some Terrence Stamp though! - "Food Fight!"
blueballsboy. What a sad fuck you've become. by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 11:11:44 AM
Since we are operating on a completely different level, mine being one where brain-cells are necessary, I'll leave you alone to wallow in your despair. If I lived YOUR "life", I would have killed myself at LEAST 2 years ago. Remember, when you were 11?
supermansequel.blogspot.com by samurai sark	Oct 12th, 2007 11:17:58 AM
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Kal El Vis, I was 23, but who's counting? by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 11:20:23 AM
Your right though we are on a different levels, your going to sit here sans your trousers and bitch and moan and pick fights with people on the internet and wrestle with that little voice in the back of your mind thats telling you to chug as much dick as you can get, Me im going home in 15 mins im going to watch TV, have something to eat take my kids and my dogs out for a walk round the park, come back put the kids to bed watch a film, fuck the Wife then go to bed, so yeah I have plenty to be deppressed about dont I???? See ya Dont bust a nut trying to sound bright, remember it's only a talk back!
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They should have included a scene where: by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 11:22:17 AM
After BJ creepily snuck into the little kids bedroom, to give him that shit-awful delivery of Brando's speech, the kid woke-up and took a bite out of the Fruit Roll-Up on his back! "Raspberry!!", he would shout.
blueballsboy has a crush on me... by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 11:24:25 AM
I, at least, CAN afford a computer. Check and Mate.
Kal El Vis, Just caught that last remark!! by boyblue	Oct 12th, 2007 11:30:30 AM
I'll drop by tonight to post again! will I use my Wii at home?? or my Home PC??, of course i'll fuck the wife before I post, cant keep the lady waiting! Check and Mate and awwww dont cry im sure your mum will suck it better!!
SR blew superchunks by Movietool	Oct 12th, 2007 11:31:59 AM
A boring, over-made movie with (1)Disasterous Casting (Lois), (2)Bad writing (if you have to change Superman into a peeping tom in order to get the emotional cue you're looking for, you've basically changed the character to suit the writer's purpose - that's BAD WRITING), and (3)not one once of FUN throughout the entire 2+ hours. That movie should have had non-stop joy in it - instead, it was non-stop angst and depression.
Superman Returns did... by Bruce Leroy	Oct 12th, 2007 11:33:09 AM
NOT work IMHO. I expected a new original Superman flick. I got a Donner ripoff instead. I was willing to give Singer a chance. Now i read he wants Terrence Stamp back as ZOD. As much as i like Stamp, i say no. I don't like the idea. Let the Donner version of Supes go, man! There are more villians then Luthor and Zod alone. Brainiac, Darkseid hell Metallo even. This new Superman movie has to be original and quite frankly, perfect. If this new Superman fails, it'll be over for the man of steel. Enough with the Donner Homages.
blueballsboy is going to... by Kal El Vis	Oct 12th, 2007 11:35:22 AM
Trip over his Dora the Explorer doll with all the back-pedalling he's doing. I said it before, and I'll say it AGAIN, fucking SAD, blueballsboy.
Sorry, that would be awesome by Heckles	Oct 12th, 2007 11:41:20 AM
KNEEL BEFORE ZOD! Kick ass. And if Singer goes by the Donner cut of Superman 2 then Zod and his crew are still alive anyway. Ursa and Non are still alive. Bring 'em all back! Wait, that would suck.
Dammit by Frietag	Oct 12th, 2007 11:43:29 AM
They should just do it animated. Not CGI, I mean Bruce Timm style. I mean, I rented THE BATMAN SUPERMAN MOVIE, and even though the animation wasn't stellar (especially the Joker) I was shocked how much better, more creative, more energetic, etc. the script was. Supposedly a kids' movie! And direct to video! But dammit -- EVERY blockbuster is a kid's movie, for marketing reasons. At least that was a DAMN GOOD one. And remember BATMAN BEYOND? Neither do I (I only saw one good episode, the Mr. Freeze one) -- but the DTV film BATMAN BEYOND: RETURN OF THE JOKER was a kickass awesome flick. Why the hell don't they just grab Bruce Timm & Paul Dini and have them do an animated SUPERMAN feature where they spend a little more money? And if those guys don't want to do it, get Dwayne McDuffie. (He wrote all those great episodes toward the end of JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED's run.)
We NEED a Supergirl movie w/ Vanderhot from Smallville!!!! by Stark Industries	Oct 12th, 2007 11:44:38 AM

I loved SR..but I don't want another homage to Donner.... by ckone	Oct 12th, 2007 11:49:45 AM
I want something NEW...This whole Zod thing would be alright if maybe %90 of the movie was completly new, and about Supes fighting a completely different villain, and maybe MAYBE at the end Terrance Stamp reprises his role to come in with a great cliff-hanger ending...that would be cool,,,but PLEASE SINGER...it't time for a ball to the wall kick ass Superman movie...I don't want a KNEW version of SupermanII...please....move on!!
I can't believe people use the talkback to... by samurai sark	Oct 12th, 2007 11:49:49 AM
...flirt with each other.
yeesh, I think I need some sleep..my grammar is deteriorating... by ckone	Oct 12th, 2007 11:51:37 AM

why don't they film a great action scene and put it online like by Jugdish	Oct 12th, 2007 11:53:09 AM
that way we can think we are seeing an action movie! Whata piece of shit SR was- BTW- I thought HArry had "exciting news" TS cant' help this franchise.
maybe... by Darth Scourge	Oct 12th, 2007 11:54:43 AM
Well there's no indication how big the Zod role would be if it does prove to be true. Maybe it would just be a Stamp/Zod cameo (which would be great if done correctly) and we WILL see some new villian also.
boyblue by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 11:57:30 AM
thing is, superman returns reintroduced a character but it wasn't interesting nor fun. they could of done it better. birthright screws with continuity and isn't perfect but that would of been a much better film than the one we got.
by Omar B	Oct 12th, 2007 11:58:51 AM
Shut up about Singer already, he screwed that movie so bad he should never be let near a superhero or comic book for the rest of his life. Do a sequel but make sure Singer's nowhere close. The movie's one saving grace was Routh as Superman, quite possibly the best Superman in the worst Superman movie ever.
veritasses by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 12:01:41 PM
the problem is singer doesn't understand comic books, much less understanding the post superhero deconstruction world of comic books. these type of exaggerations have been explored against the black and white world of DC where heroes kill(wolverine) yet they dont become the monsters they kill, and the villains in the real world are far far scarier and worse than those in a comic book, regardless how much more damage they can inflict. A story arc like The Slavers in the Punisher makes this known. A brainiac might be scary when he is trying to siphon the world but a remorseless eastern european mobster who deals in sex trafficking is much more scarier.
Hey, messi... by Kal Reeve	Oct 12th, 2007 12:05:55 PM
I've read every weekly Superman comic book since 1994. "Superman: Action Comics," "Superman: The Man of Steel," "Superman" and "The Adventures of Superman" - I've read them all on a weekly basis since Reign of the Supermen and consider myself one of his truest and most steadfast admirers. I still read the books - "Action Comics," "Superman," "Superman Confidential" and the brilliant "All-Star Superman" - and buy every book outside of his own titles that he appears in and Superman action figure that DC Direct releases. So trust me, I know and love Superman. Yes, I whole-heartedly Superman is a dynamic hero who deserves a film where he battles the evil might of Darkseid or Mongul or Brainiac (I got goosebumps watching Superman actually PUNCH Non in "Superman II: The Donner Cut"), but "Superman Returns" was not that film. It was a film about feeling alone, but ultimately learning that you are indeed loved and needed. And the love and trust from human beings, especially Lois Lane, is vital to Clark. And I'm not going to address your "stalker" remark, because I completely justified that scene in the post you responded to. As for the bank robber, he's a human being. What did you expect, for Clark to nail him with a haymaker and cave his head in? If that's what you want you need to realize that that's not Superman. Clark arrived just in time to stop him from killing the guards and prevent him and his crew from flying off in the helicopter. But rest assured that "Superman Returns" is the perfect set up for an epic, action packed sequel. And that I am anxious to see.
I think... by Halloween68	Oct 12th, 2007 12:06:30 PM
The downfall of the first was that they cast too young. I'm not sure with Stamp. I'll have to see. But he also might be too young.
Geriatric ZOD jokes to overtake elderly INDY? by Mullah Omar	Oct 12th, 2007 12:07:39 PM
If people mocked the resurrection of Indy, Rocky, Rambo, McClane, etc in their elderly years, then how are people not going nuts about Zod? Do people forget how old Stamp looks these days?
TTMan amy biancholli never read comics by messi	Oct 12th, 2007 12:10:43 PM
granted superman comics are not great comics nor even good superhero comics but they are lot better than this incredibly dull movie.
I'll never understand why people lionized Singer by reflecto	Oct 12th, 2007 12:11:40 PM
For making the X-films, which were frankly mostly mediocre. He blanded out Superman too. What's next? Three hours of Superman saving an oil tanker, hiding his identity from Lois and his son (zzzz) and watching her and Richard White renew their vows? Then he flies around a little, threatens Kevin Spacey, the end? Singer can be an amazing visual stylist but HE HAS NO VISION FOR

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