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FIST!!!
by George Newman
Oct 9th, 2007
09:27:10 PM
to your face
Looks good
by haggardatbest
Oct 9th, 2007
09:27:19 PM
They should all have Magneto helmets though.
Christopher Lee getting the best work of his life in his Twlight
by Orionsangels
Oct 9th, 2007
09:50:42 PM
Fake ass CG polar bears. They just look so darn fake.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
by Traumnovelle
Oct 9th, 2007
09:51:32 PM
YES dude. Oh my lawd. That looks so spot on. The last (first?) trailer didn't do it for me at all. I was grumpy and pouty and I hated it. But THIS shit....sweet fancy moses! I loved it. I more then loved it. I LOAVED it. I LUFFED it. Or however that that dialogue in Annie Hall went. Fuck yes. Also, you know when you read a book, and you picture in your mind who would play the characters in the film version? And how they never actually cast the ones you wished to see? This is the VERY first time it has ever panned out for me. From the first time I read the book I pictured Lee Scoresby as Sam Neill. Nobody else. Word to the casting director. This shit looks epic and great and I am chomping at the bit to see it.
TALKBACK DEATH
by Gil Brooks
Oct 9th, 2007
09:51:55 PM
Try posting a link that works. Tiny Url Dot Com
As for the trailer
by Gil Brooks
Oct 9th, 2007
09:52:30 PM
Looks awesome. Loved the books, so I can't wait.
Gahhhh....
by Traumnovelle
Oct 9th, 2007
09:58:43 PM
I meant Sam ELLIOT. Obviously.
THIS LOOKS GREAT!!!!
by crackydoodledoo
Oct 9th, 2007
10:00:45 PM
I have read the books, the casting is spot on, I CAN NOT WAIT!!!!!
I really want to Bed Eva Green.
by Redfive!
Oct 9th, 2007
10:01:09 PM
and smear blood all over her face afterwards.I really do.
Just the One adaptation wouldn't be such a bad thing.
by CatVutt
Oct 9th, 2007
10:02:25 PM
Cuz them books get progressively more painful to muddle through. Truly horrible narratives, though it would be quite amusing to see the Christian right get all in a snit if they were faithful to the text.
Looks way better than it could have
by performingmonkey
Oct 9th, 2007
10:04:16 PM
Although the proof is in the pudding. The book is good, one of the very best of its kind (if you forget the two sequels, which spiralled into drivel).
Okay.... what is this movie?
by cerebulon
Oct 9th, 2007
10:06:08 PM
I've never heard of the Magic Compass. Is this the one that takes place in the imagination of kids and then the girl dies, or is this the sequel to Narnia?
Looks good but.....
by Forestal
Oct 9th, 2007
10:13:42 PM
..Daniel Craig was barely in that trailer. Does this mean he doesn't have a lot of screen time?
People who are curious about the plot or characters....
by CarmillaVonDoom
Oct 9th, 2007
10:16:57 PM
READ THE BOOK! :^) Seriously, for most of you guys it should only take a day or so, and it is a fun read.
Atheist subtext has been drained from the films
by Thick McRunFast
Oct 9th, 2007
10:18:08 PM
That's the last I'd read about it. A shame.
Forestal.
by CatVutt
Oct 9th, 2007
10:19:06 PM
Craig's character doesn't have a whole hell of a lot to do. If memory serves, he's really only in the beginning and the end. He's an important character...sort of. The whole thing is really silly, actually. The first book almost works...the others are virtually unreadable.
Moriarty script
by thatnotmywife
Oct 9th, 2007
10:45:34 PM
hmm, I always think of Moriarty as the best writer on the site, but that is some lazy, cliche shit, no doubt!
monkey
by vaterite
Oct 9th, 2007
10:45:55 PM
I got to say, I'm a little disappointed in the Monkey. I wanted a dark shot of him staring straight at you, being the cruelest, scariest beast imaginable.
sweet fancy moses
by drave117
Oct 9th, 2007
10:59:17 PM
Finally, a good trailer! I am torn on my box office desires for this film. I mean, I knew they were going to remove all the anti-religious stuff from the story, but that will only work for the first book, which is pretty much a straightforward adventure tale. I honestly can't see how books two and three would ever work as movies. So, I guess I hope that this one does well enough for all the people involved to keep getting work, but not well enough for a sequel? Then again, I don't actually like the other two books that much, so I am not too emotionally invested in their adaptations. Screw it. I will just root for it to earn whatever it deserves and not think about the consequences. One complaint about the trailer, though. It looks like they've dumbed it down a little. I hope the actual movie refers to it as an alethiometer, as in the first trailer. "It's an alethiometer. It tells the truth." is way more awesome than "It's the golden compass. It can predict the future."
They will have to INVENT INVENT INVENT for the sequels
by performingmonkey
Oct 9th, 2007
11:16:51 PM
There's so much bullshit to sift through, but it's certainly possible to come up with great, coherent films for The Subtle Knife and The Amber Spyglass. It will be interesting to see just how much these movies are set up in The Golden Compass. Speaking of that, are they not going to call it the 'alethiometer'? That's it's name, not 'the Golden Compass'. Maybe they think that's too much for the ADD generation. Or maybe it's just a trailer line. I hope it is.
Goosebumpalicious!
by Valin Kenobi
Oct 9th, 2007
11:23:35 PM
This is gonna be awesome.
Anti-Moriarty crew...
by ephor
Oct 9th, 2007
11:27:47 PM
don't get the hatred for the guy. I think he's probably one of the most even handed contributors on this site and he writes a decent review. Trailer looks quite good though. Getting a little tired of the "a child will be born who..." formula though. Isn't it sort of more powerful when something is unexpectedly thrust into someone's hands and they have to decide to take the task on?? as in LOTR.
Ya gotta admire the tenacity of Talkback Death...
by CatVutt
Oct 9th, 2007
11:28:54 PM
Long after anybody gives a Rat Fuck, he/she/it keeps plugging away, ranting ad nauseum. Sorta like Bill O'Reilly...
if they can make Prince Caspian into a movie im sure subtle knif
by wolvenom
Oct 9th, 2007
11:29:15 PM
will work. Seriously all the books after Lion witch and wardrobe are nearly impossible to adapt to screen but they're doing it. Why not subtle knife, and spyglass? ... On the other hand I'm not impressed with the lack of testicular fortitude of the studios to back out of accurately portraying the anti-religious undertones. Its like making an 'animal farm' movie without the pigs saying 'comrades' at any point or 'animalism'. Its like making Lion, witch and Wardrobe without having Aslan ever to suffer on the slab or even be reborn. Its like making a movie from any allegorical novel without properly adapting the allegorical elements instilled within. Very fucking depressing we still live in such draconian times.
'His Dark Materials' as written are 'ALLEGORICAL'...
by wolvenom
Oct 9th, 2007
11:31:55 PM
'His Dark Materials' as filmed are '$$$THE STUFF OF COWARDS$$$'
Cool.
by TattooedBillionaire
Oct 9th, 2007
11:47:06 PM
This looks pretty damn epic. I'm there.
Oh, please.
by CatVutt
Oct 9th, 2007
11:49:05 PM
There's nothing 'allegorical' about the damn books. It's pretty blatant theological dissection. Allegory would be if you paint Lyra as Eve without screaming, literally, 'Hey, she's the new Eve!' every chance you get. Which is actually fine in and of itself. That ain't the problem with the books. The problem is the complete abandonment of narrative integrity, point-of-view, and interesting character and plot development. THAT'S where the whole thing derails about a 1/3 of the way through the second book, and never remotely pulls it back together.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOORING!
by ironic_name
Oct 9th, 2007
11:51:13 PM
Oh...uh...Spoiler in my above post....
by CatVutt
Oct 9th, 2007
11:53:04 PM
Sorry about that, if anybody actually cared...
what's with the mori hate?
by LegoKenobi
Oct 10th, 2007
12:01:37 AM
he's my favorite reviewer here, and i like the way he writes.
Any trailer that falls back on the "in a world" cliche . . .
by gruntybear
Oct 10th, 2007
12:08:28 AM
. . . is, de facto, NOT a good trailer.
The Jumper trailer was awesome
by Neo Zeed
Oct 10th, 2007
12:09:30 AM
just wanted to say that
How will they handled the God killing? Will it be a generic God?
by Stormwatcher
Oct 10th, 2007
12:12:24 AM
Or will they diverge so much that in the end Nicole and Bond don't die? Would be sad as their death in book 3 was awesome. Guess that's a spoiler but whatever. 5 years from now no one will care. The kid will be too old by the time of the 3rd movie anyways. WOnder who the boy will be in Part 2?
James Bond + Big Ass Polar Bears
by The Winged Doucheman
Oct 10th, 2007
12:17:29 AM
Equals box office gold. Did Kidman and Craig get a twofer package from CAA? This and the Invasion? One outa two ain't bad.
C'mon...
by FlipTheFrog
Oct 10th, 2007
12:18:40 AM
Looks like ass.
A few actors have slipped into this movie...
by performingmonkey
Oct 10th, 2007
12:20:06 AM
I never knew that Ian Mckellen had been brought in as the voice of Iorek (the bear) and Christopher Lee seems to be in this too! Also, Freddie Highmore has been made the voice of Pantalaimon (Lyra's daemon (creature spirit that follows you around)) This to me is HIGHLY INTERESTING. I always imagined Pan would have an older voice, and I'm sure they cast someone older, but now they've made him have a young voice. That's very cool if they're making the daemon's voices a similar age to their characters. I never thought that once when reading the book.
What's up with showing scenes from book three?
by Wungolioth
Oct 10th, 2007
12:30:45 AM
All the scenes with multiple polar bears and the polar bears fighting, I believe, doesn't come into play until the 3rd book. They are either messing with the timelines, or those scenes will NOT be in this movie. Maybe they're doing FX for the upcoming movies ahead of time?
wungolioth
by darwinwins
Oct 10th, 2007
12:40:03 AM
there is a scene in book one when the two big polar bears duke it out where iorek has to reclaim the crown.
Wungolioth
by Traumnovelle
Oct 10th, 2007
12:42:40 AM
Nah...Iorek Byrnison fights Iofur Raknison (I had to lean over and grab the book and flip through it to remember his name) for control of Svalbard like two thirds into the book. I didn't even READ the other two books cause I heard nothing but bad things about them (as this very talkback reflects) and I didn't want to ruin my appreciation for Golden Compass. Cause I like that shit a WHOLE bunch.
cgi sore
by bernard
Oct 10th, 2007
12:44:30 AM
somebody please dig up jim henson and put him back to work.
Weitz to omit final 3 chapters
by Redfoot the Fence
Oct 10th, 2007
12:44:36 AM
Director Chris Weitz released a statement, according to hisdarkmaterials.org, confirming that the events of the final 3 chapters in The Golden Compass will not appear in the film (he claims he's saving them for The Subtle Knife)...this is total bullshit. The flick's gonna lose all its punch at the end if he does that. http://tinyurl.com/25mdj4
Is this a sequel?
by wintocha67
Oct 10th, 2007
12:47:46 AM
To "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"?
what happened to the talkbacks?
by messi
Oct 10th, 2007
12:47:54 AM
ehh?
Sorry, I stand corrected...
by Wungolioth
Oct 10th, 2007
12:52:45 AM
Any levity?
by Dingbatty
Oct 10th, 2007
01:46:56 AM
Looks entirely humorless. And can't we please get a fantasy with a mature protagonist?
Good to see Kidman take a non-drama seriously
by hegele
Oct 10th, 2007
01:55:51 AM
looks like she is actually trying in this performance.
his dark materials
by darwinwins
Oct 10th, 2007
02:03:39 AM
i don't know why people get the impression that the second two books of the trilogy suck. they really don't. i read all three in the course of a week and was enthralled after the initial first few chapters of book 1. READ ALL THREE you dirty hairy douchebags.

by Jaws Wayne
Oct 10th, 2007
02:16:57 AM
I had never heard of these books, but the trailer for this film looks outstanding. Did anyone else think the musical theme that was heard many times in the trailer sounded like a spin-of of Howard's Shore's Lord of the Rings main theme ? Or was it some Shore temp track ? Anyway, this looks like the finest fantasy film since Pan's Labyrinth from '06, it sure looks like a theater must-see.
dingbatty
by bunkyboo
Oct 10th, 2007
02:20:03 AM
wish granted, go see Stardust before it leaves the theaters. The corruption of religion is well in the movie. Craig has plenty of screen time. They are set to do the sequels. It will be interesting to see if they do the bear battle as brutal and gory as the script described it.
Narnia Light?
by Flaggg
Oct 10th, 2007
02:38:09 AM
I don't know what you fucking watched, but that was the exact opposite of Narnia -- as are the books, thankfully. Narnia is light and airy stuff; His Dark Materials is deadly dark and serious in its themes.
JUMPER TRAILER
by shmu65
Oct 10th, 2007
02:50:29 AM
http://www.jumperthemovie.com/
It's not Tolkien and it's no Hobbit Movie
by Flame of the West
Oct 10th, 2007
03:20:10 AM
WETA Digital have done their best. But this isn't Tolkien no matter how much Philip Pullman aspires to be. We want see the Hobbit made into a film- not this try hard stuff. Its not LOTR and its not Narnia either ....
This movie tastes like making love in a canoe
by Gargolito
Oct 10th, 2007
03:40:44 AM
a diluted version of the book that is pretty fucking close to water.
"why people get the impression that the second two books of the
by newc0253
Oct 10th, 2007
03:44:21 AM
uh, because they do?

to be accurate, i don't think the second book sucks that badly, save insofar as it sets things up for the third book, which sucks donkey cock.

and it's not that the third book is about a war on heaven and killing god. that i don't have a problem with. it's that the third book is the most painfully written allegory you've ever read (although i encourage you not to). like CatVutt said, it's so obvious it hurts. i kid you not, the third book is the Matrix Revolutions of the trilogy, i.e the point at which it becomes a giant trainwreck.

from the looks of the trailer, it looks like Weitz has done a great job in translating the first book to screen, which is a fantastic book in its own right. but he's gonna have his work cut out for him to save the third book from itself.

Yeeah
by Kragmose
Oct 10th, 2007
04:00:03 AM
There we go. Just the fact that Daniel is in this made it for me.
the Second Book isn't too bad
by Lost Jarv
Oct 10th, 2007
04:21:20 AM
compared to the atrocity that is the third book. Hoary, pretentious, dull, overwrought, nonsensical shite.
oh and I forgot to say
by Lost Jarv
Oct 10th, 2007
04:22:28 AM
with a fucking ridiculously obvious attempt to tug on the reader's heartstrings at the end. The praise for this tripe is mystifying.
mmmmmmmmmm
by barnaby jones
Oct 10th, 2007
04:34:38 AM
Anyone remember Eragon, nope didn't think so.......
Moving the final chapters...
by sambrook
Oct 10th, 2007
04:44:07 AM
...strikes me as playing their cards very safely with regards to sequels. I only finished reading the book a couple of months ago and wondered if, with the other films' not confirmed, they were really going to end the film on a cliff-hanger. Guess they won't be - and Daniel Craig will get even less screentime.
Another problem
by sambrook
Oct 10th, 2007
04:47:27 AM
With these scenes (shot last year) edited into footage for The Subtle Knife - to be shot next year at the earliest - won't the jump in height for Lyra be even more evident when the scenes are in the same movie? At least if the films were completely seperate it would be easier to accept.
I like Sam Elliot a lot, but
by TheNorthlander
Oct 10th, 2007
05:01:58 AM
him playing a cowboy seems really out of place with everything else in that movie. Is there really a cowboy in the books?

by Screamin822
Oct 10th, 2007
05:10:04 AM
He's an aeronaut from Texas. So...sorta.
CGI
by Bald Evil
Oct 10th, 2007
05:13:14 AM
Overall the trailer looks great, but I'm not 100% sold on the CGI, especially the polar bears. After King Kong and Transformers, the benchmark for CGI creatures is set very high in my book. But what I saw looked good, worth seeing on the big screen.
What's an aeronaut?
by TheNorthlander
Oct 10th, 2007
05:29:22 AM
Is that a lonely guy with southern drawl and a large hat that lives out on the prairie and has revolver fights in saloons? If so, good casting choice.
Wow, looks like a winner, the imagery is dead on with the book
by KillaKane
Oct 10th, 2007
05:56:24 AM
Stella cast they've assembled, sounds like Ian MCKellen is voicing Iorek, class!
Wonderful!
by tehDude
Oct 10th, 2007
06:38:06 AM
Loved the books, and the previous trailers left a bit aprehensive but WOW!!
I really enjoyed all three books..
by TinSpider
Oct 10th, 2007
06:55:15 AM
But can't get excited about the movie. It all looks a bit clean, a bit light and seriously needs grunging. Isn't Mrs Coultier supposed to have long black hair? Lee Scorseby looks spot on though.
Eva Eva Eva Eva Eva
by Thomas Cromwell
Oct 10th, 2007
07:01:30 AM
Proper talent and hot as hell. Shame about having to put up with Nicole though. Ho hum...
Lame, gay...
by Kid Z
Oct 10th, 2007
07:39:40 AM
...Chremo bollocks!
One thing I know I'm right about...
by Wungolioth
Oct 10th, 2007
08:32:09 AM
I don't like how the trailer seems to make it seem as if there is something special about the Golden Compass, or alethiometer. Although it is probably a uniquely fine example of one, the Magesterium supposedly have their own, the only difference is Lyra can interpret the symbols instinctively, and they have to reference volumes to do it which can take long hours of research.
They've taken out the anti-religious plot. It wasn't about takin
by V'Shael
Oct 10th, 2007
09:13:30 AM
It was about overthrowing the Kingdom of heaven and instituting the Republic of Heaven.

Of course, the religious nutbags in America would throw a shitfit if something like that was actually put on screen.

looks good to me...
by just pillow talk
Oct 10th, 2007
09:44:29 AM
Considering who's in it and having never read the books, think I'll give it a shot.
eh.
by munkie loco
Oct 10th, 2007
09:50:56 AM
i'll see it for the polar bears.
Wungolioth
by Omar B
Oct 10th, 2007
10:09:57 AM
Wungolioth - "All the scenes with multiple polar bears and the polar bears fighting, I believe, doesn't come into play until the 3rd book." I wouldn't go as far as "all the scenes with multiple bears fighting." Since a major plot point of the first book is Lyra being rescued from the bear castle and the new bear king by her bear. Remember he smacks off the evil bears lower face with one swipe of his claw? It happens right before the climax when they climb up and cross between worlds. Indeed, it's gonna be a great movie though I wish they kept the anti-god themes because morality is not the sole dominion of religion.
As with the books
by hum noises for the Beast
Oct 10th, 2007
10:26:54 AM
1st movie will rock, 2nd will be watchable but the 3rd will be awful except if there is a bit more emphasis on the big battle then there is in the book
This... is god.
by billfro
Oct 10th, 2007
10:40:17 AM
Seriously, are they cutting out the destruction of god bit? 'Cause that's not really a bit or even a subtext. It's, like, the whole text of the last book. Well, if they're removing the blasphemy from the story--which would suck--that explains why i've yet to see the Christian right jump all over this movie.
Awesome
by SKULL1138
Oct 10th, 2007
10:42:27 AM
This will Be. If they have not mucked up the story, which it looks like they have not. Awesome
Daniel Craig and Nicole Kidman and Child Porn (SPOILERS)
by The Alienist
Oct 10th, 2007
11:25:41 AM
In the novel these guys start off as the horribly evil child killing parents of Lyra and are redeemed at the end by killing God. It really makes no sense in the novel (as does a lot of the narrative) but it was somehow still enjoyable. The main thrust of the story is the existance of "dust" which seems to be something totally different in the first book then what it is eventually revealed to be. The trilogy actually ends with the two, just-post pubescent protagonists having sex. Then they are seperated forever. Very odd story...very anit-Christian (which is probably why I loved it while know its faults.)
Not dying at all.
by Stalin vs Predator
Oct 10th, 2007
02:12:00 PM
I'm too excited to see some upcoming films that are worth seeing to care in any way about this one.
hoooooo MAN a bellairs movie
by PotSmokinAlien
Oct 10th, 2007
07:06:41 PM
'eyes of the killer robot' please
Actually...(Spoilery n' shit)
by CatVutt
Oct 10th, 2007
08:09:52 PM
It might be worth making the other films just to see the big ass CGI bear dining on Sam Elliot's corpse. That'd be good for a few chuckles.
CatVutt look up allegory in the dictionary...
by wolvenom
Oct 10th, 2007
08:10:48 PM
apparently you never went to high school
You look it up.
by CatVutt
Oct 10th, 2007
08:13:51 PM
Allegory is basically using characters and situations as metaphors, dumbass. There's no metaphor here...the fucking book comes out and makes it about religion and Christianity and Original Sin and Lyra as the 'new Eve' and the whole shebang. I mean, granted, religion is in itself allegorical...oh, fuck off. You know goddamn well what I mean.
Man, if this protested ....
by Dr.Poots
Oct 11th, 2007
12:43:36 AM
I read on a Dark Materials fansite that a religious group is going to protest this movie. A movie based on a book (series) that came out YEARS ago. Somehow, in the brains of people like this, the idea is that if there is something being presented you don't like, it needs to be silenced, therefore becoming non-existent. Sad, really.
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