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by xega
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:54:11 AM
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Used to love Ultimate FF...
by supernew
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:58:36 AM
...when Millar and Land were on it.
so early...
by blackthought
Oct 3rd, 2007
01:01:04 AM
my eyes are dazed.
The Warren Ellis/Adam Kubert Ult. FF was my fave
by George Newman
Oct 3rd, 2007
02:25:44 AM
The begative zone stuff was so much fun. Loved Millar's run as well, though!

I stopped picking it up when The Diablo showed up. The art was not to my liking At All.

Stones Throw's review of The Spirit #10
by alfiemoon
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:23:45 AM
"The British political system is somewhat different from the American one. Example: there’s no constitution"... No, we do have a constitution. It just isn't codified like the American constitution is. You have to look in quite a few different places to find it, but it's there. As for taking away rights and powers, that's something which isn't as easy as the review makes out, especially since we incorporated the European Convention on Human Rights via the Human Rights Act. "Another example: currently, our Prime Minister is completely unelected." Avoiding the obvious jokes about American Presidents who weren't really elected either, no British Prime Minister is ever "elected". The political party is elected to power based on the amount of seats that it wins from each individual constituency, and its leader becomes the Prime Minister. If the leader changes between elections, we get a new PM. That's the way it worked when John Major became PM, and it's the way it works now. I don't know why everyone has seemed so surprised by this lately. "A surefire way to switch me off is to have a character suddenly voice the writer’s opinion. This is the same thing that has kept me away from the fan-favorite series EX MACHINA." Actually, 'Ex Machina' doesn't read like this at all. I can understand how you'd be wary of it if you'd never read it, but it really doesn't read like a political soapbox for Vaughan at all. It's very balanced and even-handed (in a way that this issue of The Spirit seemed to fail to achieve). I highly recommend it.
Ennis' Punisher is some of the most amazing shit
by messi
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:49:15 AM
I have ever read. Mother Russia is a hardcore movie waiting to happen. up is down, black is white is absolutely fucked up. amazing shit.
Agreed on Punisher Max
by sean bean
Oct 3rd, 2007
04:09:58 AM
It's some of the best work Ennis has ever done. Every story arc has been great - gritty and unflinchingly brutal. It just shows what Garth is capable of when he's not doing his tired bad taste and sick humour shtick. Don't get me wrong - I loved Preacher and Hitman, but Chronicles of Wormwood was Ennis-by-numbers. The Boys is pretty much unreadable. And Kev has run its course for a one-joke character. No more Kev, please. It's probably a wise move for him to bail out of Punisher now. It was a hell of a run and the quality has never dropped.
The Immortal Iron Fist is at the top
by Dingbatty
Oct 3rd, 2007
05:02:29 AM
of my monthly must reads. Marvelous stuff.
Someday I'll read the Ennis' Max Punisher...
by rev_skarekroe
Oct 3rd, 2007
07:29:15 AM
...but I bought all 12 issues of his original run and I just can't make myself move on.
Correction on that PUNISHER ANNUAL review
by Ambush Bug
Oct 3rd, 2007
07:39:19 AM
Turns out that Mike Benson isn't the one taking over PUNISHER MAX when Ennis leaves. Teaches me to listen to the rumor mill. Sorry for the misinformation, folks.
I loves me some IMMORTAL IRON FIST
by SpyGuy
Oct 3rd, 2007
08:03:47 AM
Now that IMMORTAL IRON FIST has entered a STARMAN-esque storytelling format, it's become one of my favorite monthly series. And getting issue #9 and the Annual in the same week was a great treat to IIF fans.
JLA #13 - Nary a Background to be Seen
by Squashua
Oct 3rd, 2007
09:52:16 AM
That's the one point that most disturbs me - the lack of art in a top tier book. Boo, Benitez.
I read an EX MACHINA trade...
by stones_throw
Oct 3rd, 2007
10:26:38 AM
...And switched right off whenever the Mayor character would start talking about policies he wanted to introduce, obviously directly voicing Vaughan's views. What was that line,"Yes -- I'm talking about school credits." I did get a few laughs out of it I suppose. Also didn't care for the stiff, photo-referenced art, although the coloring was nice.

Alfie, you're right about the politics stuff, but, y'know, I wanted to talk about the book too.

Namor vs. Venom
by rev_skarekroe
Oct 3rd, 2007
10:26:43 AM
I love villain swapping almost as much as I love wife swapping. Now let's see Spidey fight Tigershark.
punisher max
by Nightwood
Oct 3rd, 2007
10:45:57 AM
I'm in total agreement. I never gave two shits about the character, and someone gave me the 'In the Beginning' tpb, and I was blown away by its intensity (the artwork in the scenes where Micro is interviewing the Punisher... wow). I subsequently bought every collection of the series at once. I'm going to be real, real, real sorry to see Ennis go. This is the best stuff he's ever done, to me. I picked up a tpb of 'The Boys' and felt exactly the opposite about it-- 'bad Ennis' mired in schlock and obvious, telegraphed humor --but Punisher Max was like a revelation: somewhere inside this cackling drunkard was an absolutely first-rate crime writer. Really eager to see how 'The Long Cold Dark' resolves.
rev_skarekroe
by messi
Oct 3rd, 2007
10:48:28 AM
MAX Punisher is completly different to the original Ennis Welcome back frank stuff. Max Punisher is incredibly gritty, real and just you forget this is technically a sueprhero character. Some of the most amazing/different comics I have ever read. If Scorsese and Michael Mann ever bothered to read the MAX line, it'd show up on their IMDB list as 'announced'.
Not even a cheap shot for ASBARTBW?
by toshiro-solo
Oct 3rd, 2007
11:48:31 AM
Really? You've gotta have SOMETHING to say about it. My suggestion? If you didn't like it? A very short review: Goddamn I hate this Goddamn book. If you did? Also a short review: Goddamn I really like this Goddamn book. Middle of the road? Goddamn-meh.
Toshiro, here's what I have to say about ASBARTBW:
by SleazyG.
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:18:47 PM
Who gives a shit? I stopped buying it a coupla issues ago--which is to say, late last winter.
Punisher MAX 'The Slavers' story arc is a masterpiece
by messi
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:22:14 PM
one of the most intense, sad, brutal stories I have ever read. Just the reality and horror of the real world. A Lex Luthor wishing to destroy Metropolis to discredit Superman may be scary. But criminals trafficking women is much scarier because it's real. That's the sad part.
Nightwood
by messi
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:23:08 PM
that's funny because the arcs after In The Beginning are even better, Kitchen Irish is a cool story but the ones after that are pure masterpieces especially 'The Slavers'.
is Flash about to be eaten by a huge, tentacled vagina?
by Zardoz
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:31:57 PM
'cause that's what it looks like to me...
Yes
by Squashua
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:37:14 PM
Yes.
*pees in corner*
by Psynapse
Oct 3rd, 2007
12:37:37 PM
Sorry, I couldn't hold it any longer....
ASBAR
by rock-me Amodeo
Oct 3rd, 2007
01:16:50 PM
I concur: who cares? It's a phenomenally bad book that is still phenomenally bad in the same exact manner. Even Winick is occasionally crappy in new ways (i.e., one of worlds foremost martial artists can defend herself only by stabbing someone through the neck...)and thus gets more exposure here than would otherwise merit.

We do reviews because the comics are new and therefore "news." But what makes it "cool" news? We do some of the same titles because a great title that continues to be great...well, that's unique, and that's cool news. A mediocre title that rises to greatness...that's cool news. A Great title that slips to mediocrity...that's news, at least at that time. And a fall to something really horrible? That's kinda cool news, as everyone loves a good train wreck.

But a crappy title that just stays crappy? Not even a turd of a different color, so to speak? (Geez, that analogy STILL makes me laugh...)It's not really news, and it's not really cool. It's just an "aint it" and that ain't enough.

An extended talkback comment is all it's worth, if that, so there you go, brother.
I also preferred Ellis' run on Ultimate FF
by xsi kal
Oct 3rd, 2007
02:49:56 PM
Had a great mix of interesting scifi ideas and team dynamics.
hahaha
by Bagheera
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:23:47 PM
those nightmares were awesome. Chris Maynard, what a troubled soul.
Black Canary wasn't raped
by slfricky
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:25:42 PM
If you're referring to what happened to her in Longbow Hunters, Mike Grell has said that she was just tortured, and not raped.
Aww, yeah!
by Squashua
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:30:23 PM
Ha! 1 Point to Squashua! :)

Bug, you ignorant slut. :D
Barracuda...
by loodabagel
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:35:51 PM
My personal favorite Punisher arc. Mother Russia was my least favorite. Frank killing all the soldiers didn't sit right with me.
the slavers
by Nightwood
Oct 3rd, 2007
03:57:49 PM
Yeah, I think The Slavers is probably the best pure story in the max line so far. Mother Russia never really sat right with me, either. Massacring all those soldiers never felt right, and the arc as a whole spent too much time in the silo. The Slavers was pretty perfect, intense and horrible. Barracuda was almost funny, and I kind of had a moment when Frank blew up the corporate yacht at the end: so he was absolutely sure that everybody on that yacht, including guests and crew, were part of the plot to shut down the east coast's electricity?...um,okay...
oh god...
by blackthought
Oct 3rd, 2007
04:41:27 PM
someone peed over here...
Am I the only one...
by Man-Spider
Oct 3rd, 2007
07:18:33 PM
...that can't stand Howard Chaykin's art nowadays?
Also
by Man-Spider
Oct 3rd, 2007
07:22:37 PM
Mike Carey happened to Ult. FF. Tried out his Crossing Midnight. What a mess.
Punisher Max is a lot like Beck...
by loodabagel
Oct 3rd, 2007
08:38:22 PM
They're all basically the same, but they're all different. My friend said Man of Stone was his least favorite but I really liked it. I think O'Brien really added something to the Punisher's character. We would have killed the bad guy in the end anyway, but it felt different, y'know?
I never liked Chaykin's art
by messi
Oct 4th, 2007
02:21:22 AM
right from his JLA. So boring and pedestrian. Marvel has all the goo artists and not only are they goo, they all have different styles as if they are doing art, not comics. Countdown has those artists still with that mentallity that art doesn't really matter.
Oops I meant Porter
by messi
Oct 4th, 2007
07:01:33 AM
got them mixed up.
JLA, Iron Fist, Flash and WW
by Homer Sexual
Oct 5th, 2007
02:53:52 PM
I am going to follow JLA for this storyline. I liked the characterization and the mini-teams. I mostly like that Meltzer, who I think is awful and sexist, is gone. I totally enjoyed the afro comments and hope Black Lightning and John Stewart will finally be interesting. And Hawkgirl. I loved the JLU cartoon Hawkgirl, and her romantic life. So I'm all for this new direction.

Iron Fist: Well, This 7 Cities storyline is the bomb so far, and promises to get better. But I ultimately prefer Iron Fist with Cage and the girls. And, well, his powering up is totally not necessary.

Flash: Well, I have said before that it's interesting when a well-written positive review confirms to me that I would really, really hate that comic. This is another example of that.

Finally, I enjoyed the long-overdue conclusion of Heinbergs Wonder Woman storyline. I dropped WW after one wretched issue of Picoult and am waiting for the return of Simone, but this was a good read in the meantime.

Doesn't anyone care about comics?
by loodabagel
Oct 5th, 2007
03:13:42 PM
Bah. Go ahead and talk about your Lost and your Heroes and your Transformers, you geeks.
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