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ALIEN VS PREDATOR: REQUIEM has a new killer sweet trailer!

First by IGoToCollege	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:40:32 PM
My awesomeness knows no bounds.
Eh by underscore_only	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:41:03 PM
Mixed feelings
You go to college? by c4andmore	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:41:24 PM
Which one? STF U?
my expectations could not possibly be lower by bobbo32	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:44:24 PM
and i dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing.
I LOVE YOU, REIKO!!! by Osmosis Jones	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:45:07 PM
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Why should I see this? They showed every kill in the by Jugdish	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:45:23 PM
They showed every kill in the Red trailer..Why bother going to see this crap?
blasphemy! by paragraphs	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:46:28 PM
how dare they use a hymn in a trailer. fox is going to hell.
I'll wait until its on FX by Ironmuskrat	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:49:51 PM
Sad really, I just can't get excited about an AvP movie anymore. i wish they would just adapt one of the Alien Dark Horse comics. Stronghold or true adaption of Labyrinth.
Mmmmm....Reiko.... by BetaRayBill07	Oct 2nd, 2007 09:55:35 PM
Man I'd chew broken glass for the chance to tap that.
let the "franchise" die already by WhoDis	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:00:50 PM
geez. This horse is so dead, it's glue!
I am indifferent by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:02:10 PM
almost to the point that I don't care. As much as I love all the Aliens movies with Weaver even that 3rd and 4th one AVP sort of sucked the soul out of the franchises of both Aliens and Predator for me. While watching this trailer I felt no excitement. None. Like I don't even care. The "Ripleyesque" female lead they seem to have just looks like a desperate grab at trying to recapture the old vibe of the previous installments but really it just sort of cheapens it. IMO what would be a really cool concept for a movie with AVP would be to do this on the Aliens home planet or visa versa sans ANY humans. Why not? It would be a cool concept film and very ballsy to have a movie that features nothing but those two species and actually do some historical accounting of where both are from. Never going to happen. The average movie goer would never want to sit through a film that does not have any dialog other then that of the made up language of the Predator. Would be cool though huh?
JOHN RAMBO is still gonna own this film! by ABking	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:06:27 PM
JANUARY 25TH 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!
What did we tell you about swimming xenomorphs? by sevadro	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:11:24 PM
And I know it sounds cool but what does the word "Requiem" have to do with anything?
sounds like the check cleared by ButtfuckZydeco	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:11:36 PM
full buzz ahead!
Less 'meh' than I predicted... by Little Beavis	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:12:01 PM
...and Ripley is still my #1 gilf. Oh hellz yeah.
Didn't we already see that? by bralli	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:13:41 PM
I have that same trailer sitting on my desktop from several months ago. Seriously, could this franchise sink any lower? This looks like a cut rate slasher movie at best.
the only question that matters is... by BMacSmith	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:18:03 PM
is it rated R?
This movie has potential by MetiphisLabs	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:18:47 PM
It really looks like it does.
REQUIEM? DOES THAT MEAN ALIEN V. PREDATOR A TO A ENDING by Pound Sand	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:25:15 PM
Oh, wait, that's Requiem for a Dream. My bad.
why 'Requiem' by reelfan	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:25:30 PM
Meaning of Requiem - any musical service, hymn, or dirge for the repose of the dead. It's obvious the requiem is supposed to be for the town...but if not done right, it might be the death of the series. Bring on the Dark Horse Aliens...
.... by Playhouse	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:25:34 PM
expressionless face
The first AVP was watchable...this one looks retarded by Rupee88	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:27:59 PM
and the trailer is old and not even good.
And how about the Ripley clone? by Rupee88	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:28:24 PM
She is Sigourney light...
Yeah... by Gozu	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:29:15 PM
Every day good scripts are passed over for "sure things" like this crap, which will probably bomb. Oh well, Hollywood's been eating its own tail for years.
"This movie has potential" by kabong	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:37:36 PM
MetiphisLabs, you're scaring the studio suits when you say stuff like that. They like the dumb-down to be sure-thing.
I'd rather have another Predator movie in the jungle by GibsonUSA	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:41:49 PM
Thats what we've been waiting for.
Alien vs. Predator vs. Batman vs. Robocop vs. Terminato by Prossor	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:41:53 PM
vs. Stalin vs. Carrot Top vs. Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash vs. Yoda vs. Goku vs. Superman vs. Leatherface vs. Ecks vs. Sever
Requiem? by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:55:55 PM
Will Jennifer Connelly go ass-to-ass with a Predator in this one? I can't wait.
It may be better than the 1st by Fan180	Oct 2nd, 2007 10:57:07 PM
I really think they should have given it to more experienced director. Neil Marshall (The Descent) could have knocked this out of the park and wouldn't have asked for a lot of money. Heck, Guillermo Del Toro (Pan's Labyrinth, Mimic) would have done an awesome reboot too.
AVP, baby by AlwaysThere	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:05:25 PM
Yeah.
"Why should I see this?" by Osmosis Jones	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:07:22 PM
REIKO AYLESWORTH!!!
I miss Danny Glover.... by Jobacca	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:10:03 PM
Or Arnold,or Siquorney,or anyone who use to star in these movies when they were good. Why cant FOX do one of these right? How hard would it be to film one of these in the jungle or Death Valley and pretend its an Alien Planet? Having Aliens on modern-day earth is just stupid as hell,and the Predators on earth thing has been done to death. Why cant FOX do anything right? Oh right,because they're FOX...the company that pissed away any future X-Men movies because one retaded exec. didnt "get" the whole mutant thing....
I don't know. by TattooedBillionaire	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:10:04 PM
The look seems fine, but I am not excited. If the trailer for the upcomming remake of Friday the 13th looked like this, I would be jumping for joy. The Alien and Predator franchises, though, have had great films and deserve higher expectations.
You the man, Harry... by SpiceWonBruce	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:12:30 PM
New trailer my ass. For Christ's sake, I saw this trailer last month when 3:10 to Yuma came out. It's good to know the incompetent fuckers on this site are on top of things.
Didn't I see Ripley in that trailer? by greyspecter	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:24:41 PM
I know the chick who played Michelle (Soul Patch Vengence's wife) on 24 looks to be the main chick, but I coulda sworn Rips (rhymes with...) cries, "Hold On!" at one point. Maybe she keeps getting reincarnated with the aliens and this is her previous life before the first film. Or maybe it's getting late. Didn't see the first one, won't see this. Until Milla Jolovich take 'em on in Resident Alien: Predatorial Survival.
First image of Alien/Predator by teamneedle	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:24:44 PM
Harry, How come no one else has mentioned this yet... In this trailer is the first glimpse of the adult Alien/Predator Hybrid that was created in AVP. It kinda looks better then expected...
They chest burst a toddler in this by Fridge	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:29:57 PM
How can it not be awesome.
nice by slkboxrman	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:33:09 PM
i think the first AVP was an ok movie.... this looks pretty awesome...and no its not the same trailer as the first, parts of it are in there but there is new material....most of the definitions say requiem is a song for the dead or deceased.....prob means the the majority of the population of that town......anyone else think its hillarious that the towns name is "gunnesville" or something like that ? lol
why christmas by Shakes	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:36:35 PM
Isn't there a tradition now of horror movies coming out on Christmas and bombing. Last year was Black Christmas, now this. Why not move it to Spring or something, when it actually has a chance to do well.
If you watch the whole thing by Dotren	Oct 2nd, 2007 11:57:10 PM
You'll see its not the same trailer that came out in August. It starts off the same but quickly starts showing footage that wasn't in the first one as well as the music at the end.
If you think about it by Mockingbuddha	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:23:24 AM
all AVP movies should be set on Earth since the Predator movies were on Earth, and Predator is by far the superior franchise here. Aliens in space is a stupid idea anyway. These things are only alien if you bring them to a foreign environment, like Earth. In the Alien movies, Riply was always the title character.
civilians getting stalked by aliens is cool... by Sappers Forward	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:28:46 AM
BUT,...the predators angle is lame. Aliens vs. predators is lame. Aliens stalking helpless humans is cool. I had nightmares as a kid of being stalked by Aliens after watching "Alien". Spooky, horrifying stuff. This movie looks lame. Especially the oh so tough 80 pound hot chick on the machine gun saving the day...blah blah blah...lame.
This is a very cool trailer... by PoweredUpPacman	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:39:00 AM
...but I liked the first one better, wich had a ton of gore in it. Hope they keep the hard R in this. It might just nudge in the 'watchable' box.
Was that an Alien with dreads? by Allfather Starr	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:39:22 AM
What a load of fucking shit.
And Mockingbuuddha... by PoweredUpPacman	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:43:23 AM
...AVP should be set on a distant planet, since that's where the original story started. You know, when it was the coolest video game around, wich this is supposed to be based on, but not really. Why couldn't they just do one guy stuck in the middle of an AVP battle on another planet?
Looks awesome... by JKrow21	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:43:59 AM
THIS is what I wanted to see from an Alien vs Predator movie ever since I was a kid. It has a lot of elements from the comic book series like the Alien Predator hybrid. The only major difference is that its set on present day Earth and not some faraway farming colony.
And Sappers Forward... by PoweredUpPacman	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:45:55 AM
...I think YOU are pretty lame. Lame, lame, lame.
In Alien everyone was an Alien, including the Alien. by veebeeyes	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:46:42 AM
As Ripley explains angrily to the woman on the inquiry committee, it wasn't indigenous. They found it on a derelict spacecraft. It was not from there.
I don't know. by Psyclops	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:48:24 AM
I was filled with contempt for this thing when Moriarty reviewed the early draft of the script but the trailer does look like it's at least going to be darker and more entertaining than the last one. I love these movies too much to lose all hope, maybe the Strause Bros. will deliver something watchable this time around.
All that money.... by pretentiousboy	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:48:25 AM
And no story. What ever happened to the awe and wonderment of filmmaking. Just go back and watch ridleys masterpiece. And for crying out loud, lets find out what happened to the derelic space craft from the original. You make a whole new awesome story with that!
PoweredUpPacman by Allfather Starr	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:50:51 AM
Please tell me you are joking about AvP 1 being good, and that it "had a ton of gore in it". That was one of people's biggest gripes, the lack of gore. That and about 50 other shit things. And there's you calling other people lame!
Half Alien, half whatever. by veebeeyes	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:50:58 AM
I always thought that was a little bit goofy, how the Aliens are supposed to take on the characteristics of whatever it came from. I mean, if an Alien gets dreadlocks when it comes from a Predator, then shouldn't the Alien in Alien have gotten hair? Or for that matter, fucking EYES?
Good point veebeeyes by Allfather Starr	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:16:30 AM
The alien is supposed to take on general physical aspects of the host, such as biped/quadruped features. Not specifics such as hair, and not such lovingly maintained hair either! Fucking hacks, no idea of canon, like how the last one was set in Earth's coldest climate, despite everything that the predator movies had told you about the Predator's choice of hot climates. Question is, will they have the ridiculous speeded up Alien life cycle in this one?
Haha, sort of reminds me of the old Aliens toys... by veebeeyes	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:29:24 AM
from way back then. There was like, a gorilla alien. And a snake Alien. And a spider Alien. And a gerbil Alien. And they all looked stupid as hell. But that also made them sort of funny. Hey, now that the Alien series is pretty much become trash anyway, maybe they could make Alien 5 and/or AVP 3 set in a zoo. Like, the Predators drop some Aliens off at the zoo, then we'll get to see all of the Aliens from the old toys.
AvP Gave Me A Lobotomy by Madines Sideshed	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:32:20 AM
Putting these guys together diminishes thier appeal, certainly did in the last installment. Another example of something looking good on paper (i.e. comics) and looking like a shit sandwich on screen. They had to bring in humans we didn't give a fuck about to have any sense of character development whatsover; they shouldn't have bothered. Soon they'll just be filming fucking computer games and we'll all be sitting with our 3 ton boxes of popcorn lapping it up. Stops everyone, us the filmakers, having to think about shit. Can't wait.
It's not necessarily hair... by JKrow21	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:34:44 AM
it could be a type of organ on the Predator that just resembles dreadlocks to us.
Allfather Starr by Psyclops	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:39:03 AM
I think talkbacker PoweredUpPacman was referring to the red band trailer that was released a while back. It was the first footage/trailer of any kind to be released for the film and it had a lot of gore and some swearing in it.
THIS LOOKS FUCKING AWFUL by Bass Bastardson	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:53:52 AM
And the more this site tries to pump up this pile of shit the more I start believing the cynical bastards in these TBs who are always blathering on about studio payolla. I don't want to be that guy but it is becoming impossible not to be. AVP2 is about as enticing as a feculent baby corpse at the dinner table.
Allfather Starr... by PoweredUpPacman	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:01:53 AM
...I was indeed referring to the first trailer. The first AVP movie reeked of putrid donkeyshit, and not only that, but it also undermined the classics it was supposedly based on. I still hate the idea of an AVP movie put in contemparary time on earth instead of future space, but if I have to suffer that minor gripe, at least give some gore in return. That's all.
Alien Vs Predator Vs Chuck Norris... by Alonzo Mosely	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:07:24 AM
That is the way to resurrect this franchise...
Oh jeeze you guys... by Mike_D	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:16:24 AM
I know the first one sucked balls but this one actually looks entertaining. At least we're not getting a human/predator team-up.
Do you guys really think that Predators wear dredlocks? by Mike_D	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:20:31 AM
They're obviously part of the predator anatomy.
Àren't dreadlocks part... by PoweredUpPacman	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:26:18 AM
...of the anotomy of the person wearing / having them? Since it's...like...hair? You don't screw them on every morning? Right?
"You just had a bad nightmare" by Dickless	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:33:44 AM
as opposed to good?
Team up by Jaws Wayne	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:56:37 AM
Yeah, that for me was easily the worst thing in the AVP film. Too bad both franchises got killed with the AVP movie, which I must admit I thought turned out just a little bit better than I expected. I mean, did really any of you seriously expect that film to turn out to be as cool or good as any of the Alien or Predator films ? Please Fox executives, give Ridley Scott 100 or 150 million dollars or whatever it takes and let him make a new film that will play entirely on the Alien planet. And no need for visiting Predators in that film. Thanks a bunch Fox, I bet a lot of us earthlings will go and see that movie.
Feculent baby corpse! by Tal111	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:00:02 AM
It's what's for dinner!!
wait...the Predalien has eyes? by Datascream	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:10:44 AM
It seriously looks like the predator/alien has eyes under the banana hump and the dreads. That doesn't make a lick of sense!
Jaws Wayne..... by closeencounter	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:20:52 AM
Totally agree with you. The ONLY way to put this series to rest the RIGHT way is to sign up Ridley Scott and Sigourney, go back to planet LV-whatever, find a way back to the aliens planet of origin and either nuke it from outer space OR sign up Bill Clinton for a cameo to try to talk the aliens to come to peace talks, then have Billy-boy force-fed one of those preambulatory penis's for lunch. It's kinda like Monica's revenge.
Alien Vs Predator 2 and 4Fast 4Furious!!! by CuervoJones	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:26:30 AM
Hollywood´s new Golden Age!
Predalien eyes? by Psyclops	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:31:36 AM
That would just look... weird. I can't see it from the trailer but if they're trying to make it look more like the Predator by giving it eyes then having goofy dreadlocks is the least of it's problems. Maybe it has eye sockets under the dome like the skull on Giger's original Alien?
Sigourney Weaver said... by emeraldboy	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:39:12 AM
That for her ripley is dead and buried and that there will be no more alien movies. She was asked did she see AVp and she said no and that she wasnt interested. She then was asked about GB3 and while she did say that there Dan Ackroyd was working on the Ghostbusters 3 game, she would not be involved.
In space no one can hear you recycle old taglines. by TheNorthlander	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:40:41 AM
Still, nice use of Silent Night.
This movie is going to be bad... by Forsakyn	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:41:19 AM
And I'm going to still see it. Damn it, where is my self-control? Oh, nevermind, I saw it leaving on a flight out of the country. They really are trying to make that one gal into a Ripley-like character. But honestly, it looks like the Aliens and Predators are in this alot, and racking up a body count. So I have to see it. I'm so weak!
Pred's dreadlocks by Rameses	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:02:23 AM
Stan winstone designed the creature and he calls them dreadlocks ..so theyre dreadlocks!
I'd see an ALIEN 5 with or without Sigourney. by Psyclops	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:05:28 AM
I love Ripley, Sigourney Weaver owns that role forever, but I think there's a hell of a story to be told if they ever decide to explore the origins of the creatures in a future movie and she doesn't have to be involved. Her story is done. If they do make another installment and she comes back I wouldn't be against it. I think they could do something interesting with Ripley as an older woman (her age could be deceiving to her fellow humans if they play up her superior strength and genetic link to the Aliens). I think it could work if they nail the story. I know a lot of fans want the Alien to remain a mystery forever but I would personally love to see them explore the source of the creatures and their link to the Space Jockey and his species. Imagine a planet straight out of Giger's biomechanical nightmares, I think that would be far more interesting than seeing them end up on earth (an idea which has already been deflated by these AVP movies using our present day planet as a battleground). I know it will probably never happen but a guy can dream, right? They're making a fucking JOUST movie so I guess anything can happen.
PoweredUpPacman by Allfather Starr	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:40:00 AM
Fair enough, sorry mate. I'm glad that everyone seems to be in agreement here for once. But I don't hold much hope for this movie. I haven't really taken to any of the Alien creature designs after Aliens, this one looks to be terrible, the head ridges look all wrong. I love Giger's original, but the one from Aliens is my personal fave. Why can't they bring that back?
I agree, the recent Alien designs have been terrible. by Psyclops	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:54:47 AM
I think these new creatures look a bit better than what ADI has churned out for the last few installments but it's just too far removed from the original. It doesn't have to be a carbon copy, the creature from ALIEN 3 looked pretty good and it was very different from Giger's creation, but the designs from RESURRECTION and AVP look awful. The jutting chin, large fangs and sinewy body don't look biomechanical at all. They make the Alien look like a slimy velociraptor fused with a giant turd. If these effects guys had to be brought back for another go with the Aliens then I would be open to a different look as long as the redesign was from head-to-toe (not just giving it ridges and fixing the mouth). Don't even get me started on how fucked up the Predator looked in the last movie. There's nothing wrong with putting your own stamp on something when you've inherited someone else's design so long as you don't butcher the features that made it memorable in the first place. The Scar Predator from AVP looked like he had a facehugger growing out of his mouth with those gigantic mandibles. How is it that a series of films that were made in the '80s had better creature effects than now?
Why's it called Requiem?? by theonecalledshoe	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:59:34 AM
Will it meet the satisfaction of Sigourney Weaver?? I read she liked the "Ripley" character but hated how the predator did his thing. A number of people out there in internet space don't care the whip. I dig it.
Gotta be the most violent trailer ever made by Ray Gamma	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:00:44 AM
In spite of the all-out stupidness of this cross-franchise idea.... Can you imagine back in the late seventies when the original "Alien" came out, what would audiences in cinemas have made of this ultra-violent trailer back then? It would surely have completely blown everyone's minds and its extreme nature would have made it a major cultural event, for better or worse. Of course, it begs the question: What are audiences going to be seeing in movie trailers thirty years from now? !!!
PS guy in lizard suit VS rasta with night-vision scope by Ray Gamma	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:03:03 AM
guy in lizard suit VS rasta with night-vision scope.
Alien vs. Predator vs. ET by Dingbatty	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:06:48 AM
I'd watch that.
Looks like a mish mash of.... by Bobo_Vision	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:09:54 AM
...all the best parts from "Aliens" and "Predator". They even have some chick aping Sigourney weaver's expressions while wearing an olive green tanktop. In other words, they've done exactly what film fans do at YouTube for free, only they spent millions. There are some projectionists who collect movie trailers, and then they mix and match and splice different trailers together to make their own short films, and then once in a blue moon, projectionists get together in a theatre after hours, and watch each other's short movies. That's what this reminds me of.
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:30:07 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
Arnold by SKULL1138	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:55:40 AM
Thats what these flims are missing, what they should have is Arnold thats been frozen cryogenically since predator because he contains foreign, alien particles on him or some shit. Years later Humans land on a planet and discover Predators they un freeze arnie to see if the alien materials on him can help to work out how to infect the Predators with a virus or some shit. They then discover Xenormorphs and all shit breask loose, with Arnie in the middle, we then discover which is the hardest species ibn the Galaxy, of course its Arnie...Fuck you Aleean, boom. Can you imagine a face hugger trying to attack Arnie and he just rips it apart with his bare hands. He would make himself armour from dead Aliens to protect him against acid and get some predator weapons, then just kill every other fucking thing on screen, with extreme predjudice. Thats a fucking AvP movie, toatl balsll to the wall death and destruction, RAnie would escape with one Predator he befriends and they annihalate the entire planet, but then the predator, knowing Arnie ios the ultimate warrior tries to kill him and they square off on the spaceship, with Arnie narrowly winning of course. This movie will be total shit like all the others and unless we stop going to see this pish, they will continue to make cheap crap with no care for audiences, boycott all trash and they will produce no more crap movies, easy.
At the Mountains of Madness!!! by CuervoJones	Oct 3rd, 2007 06:05:27 AM
It´s official, Guillermo del Toro is making the adaptation!!! Who cares about Predaliens?
You Serious Cuervo? Superstoked!!! by KillaKane	Oct 3rd, 2007 06:17:42 AM
Finally a Lovecraft adaptation that'll do the 'old ones' proud!
This MUST have a bad ending by Roderich	Oct 3rd, 2007 06:34:36 AM
if the "timeline" is not to be changed, as in Alien 1-4 nobody seems to have much knowledge about the Alien-monsters. Hmm, maybe they knew of them because of what was left after der AvP-storyarcs ended, so "they" (Weyland Yutani" searched for them later and found them in ALIEN. And Psyclops: The Alien in Alien 3 IS from Giger, he designed them in 1 and 3.
Roderich by DerLanghaarige	Oct 3rd, 2007 06:39:18 AM
No, the Alien in part 3 is not from Giger. But he was supposed to design it. You can hear the whole story of Giger and Alien 3 in the Quadrilogy Box.
Dumb fun, I'm there. by Negative Man	Oct 3rd, 2007 06:58:02 AM
As opposed to stupid fun (ALIEN III, IV, and PREDATOR II, AVP) which, in the end...forgot the fun. AVP:R looks worlds better than any of the post Aliens, Predator sequels. Count me in for this ride. Let's face it, the original films were brilliantly directed, not brilliantly written. AVP:R just needs competent writing and directing to make it good.
It's sad really... by KillDozer	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:05:13 AM
I've been lurking here for many years, loving the fact that I found a site that would help me discover cool sci-fi stuff I may have missed and warning me about the shit before it hits the theaters. What happened to those days? Even if AvP2 turns out to be watchable, it's still part of a series that pisses on the existing canon of and effectively destroys the future potential of two of the greatest sci-fi franchises ever made. Every story about this movie should have a link to the script review that talks about what a pile-of-shit this film is going to be so everyone can see that the trailers show a movie clearly made from that script. If AintItCool just encourages their readers to get a raging boner from these trailers, helping to pack the seats on opening weekend and encourage studios to make even more of this crap, then it's just another part of the problem.
Gore and blood aint gonna help this one... by vezner2007	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:07:28 AM
Sorry guys, but the story to this AVP sounds even more ridiculous than the first one. I agree with many previous comments in that Fox seems to have no clue about how to make a good Alien or Predator movie any more, much less one that puts them both together. I don't care how much gore it has, it's gonna suck unwiped ass. Mark my words. I'm definitely not going to waste my money on this one. It will be a $1 rental at best.
Looks Great by stvnhthr	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:11:23 AM
I'm not sure what all the complainers are upset about. This looks like freak'n balls to the wall action. What more could you want?
Cuervo, if that's true, that's AWESOME news... by Abin Sur	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:22:43 AM
Where'd you hear about it?
meh by misnomer	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:26:57 AM
I remember jokingly saying that one of the cheesiest things they could do would be to use silent night for an xmas AvP. go figure.
ill check it out.. by Judge Briggs	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:29:34 AM
looks like fun... and Reiko prolly never saw an Alien or Predator movie until she signed on... then she Netflixed em and while watching them, took notes on how to play the role of Ripley... that part will be really annoying. i really also hope that she doesn't try to escort a kid out of the city, that would be a cliche'd as the Bush Admin lying. i don't get why they are releasing it during Christmas either? Halloween makes more sense... either way, ill be checking it out.
I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.. by DeusExMachina	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:48:15 AM
Compared to the first AVP, this looks pretty damn good. All you guys saying that your expectations have been lowered are full of shit.
There should be no "lead" humans by Abominable Snowcone	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:49:35 AM
You'd think after the first AvP that no other female can top Ripley, and that to try is just to bastardize both franchises. All people in this movie should be extras, because as we see in the trailer they're all summarily dispatched anyway. And whoever said it above is correct, about the trailer looking like a montage of kills we've already seen. I'll still see this, though, because like, aliens and predators are in it and I'm a 36 year old dork.
Double meh... by Spango	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:51:23 AM
Looks uninteresting. The Aliens aren't scary anymore. ALso not interested in Aliens in a modern day setting. I want to see a Predator movie set in the 1700s. It would be cool to see where that old pistol Danny Glover got at the end of P2 came from. Otherwise, give me colonial marines caught in the middle of something heinous.
So M-O-M by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:54:58 AM
you- depite all your protestations and pretentions- are part of the problem: This christmas, you bet i'll have a date with Mr Predator, Mr Alien, and lots of Misters and Misses Dead Meat You hypocrite worm. I never want to read another post from you lambasting someone for inferior taste again. You Complete and Utter cunt.
And Dog Soldiers is not Neil Marshall's Aliens by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:56:15 AM
Your quite wrong there as well.
The bottom line... by vezner2007	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:56:17 AM
is that I want some space marines tearing it up with Aliens in some pure outerspace carnage. If you wanna throw in a predator or two, that's fine, but mostly I just want to see a true sequel to Aliens set in the future on some lifeless alien planet. Is that too much to ask? IMO the closest thing we've had to that is Doom...which makes me cry.
This Isn't Aliens or Predator by tvspace	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:00:19 AM
Those ships have sailed. It's lame, predictable carnage via creatures we know and love from our past. Aliens III was bad. Aliens IV had moments, although the genetic freak at the end ruined the franchise for me. Predator was fun. Predator II also had its moments. But to quote Bill Paxon, who appeared in both franchises, "Game over, Man! Game over!" Honestly, I think this is nothing more than a 90 minute trailer for a video game.
Aliens vs Predator vs Kramer vs Kramer by Blanket-Man	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:05:12 AM
A second "vs" movie demands more antagonists, dammit. My money's on Meryl Streep.
Alien 3 is underrated by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:07:38 AM
but there is no point having this argument again, no one ever changes point of view.
Lost Jarv by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:07:54 AM
Preach it, brother.
Lost Jarv by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:13:02 AM
Both regarding Alien 3 and MOM/BRU.
Doc- by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:14:34 AM
I saw his vile presence in the Friday 13th TB- but it keeps crashing my Internet Explorer when I try to open the TB (although bizarrely I can post there), so I have basically reposted what I wrote here. He really is a bottom feeding twat.
Jarv by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:17:32 AM
The reason you can't open the TB with IE is that some bastard posted a trollish tome of colossal size which nobody has deleted yet. Use Firefox. M-O-M keeps denying the truth, but the same things you hate about him now are what finally got him banned as BladeRunnerUnit once upon a time.
Lost Jarv by TheNorthlander	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:19:54 AM
Alien 3 rocks. It took me a long time to appreciate that movie, it really needs to be seen as separate from Aliens in order to work. I think the biggest problem with it is that it came as an anticlimax after Cameron's sequel. People were expecting action and got suspense instead. That scene where the doctor finally lets his guard down and tells Ripley about why he's still at the prison planet right before the Alien jumps through the roof and kills him, then stops before it gets to Ripley because it can smell the queen inside here is fucking brilliant. One of the best scenes in a sci-fi movie ever.
OK, Googled "Mountains" by Abin Sur	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:29:05 AM
...and I think the only one more out of the loop on that movie than me MUST be Harry! Every freakin' site out there has mentioned it, and I thought Harry and Guillermo were like best buds? I would have expected a super-duper sized announcement about that here. Weird...
damn it. I can't install firefox at work by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:31:57 AM
who was it?
I guarantee you that Troll... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:46:44 AM
...is Gabriel Gray.
Just have Alien V Predator V Transformers and be done! by FILMFUNK	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:47:50 AM
Hope this is at least watchable but I find seeing the 2 monsters sharing the same screen instantly takes me out of the experience and go ''Look they mixed 2 classic franchises and it doesn't quite work!!!''
who posted it? by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:57:57 AM
twat- and mod guys can someone delete it please?
Never mind by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:59:27 AM
It was obviously TALKBACK DEATH. aaaargh. I'm desperate to read and get involved with the argument.
DEL TORO DIRECTS H. P. LOVECRAFT NEXT! by Luke_Cage	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:29:07 AM
"Great news today, Guillermo Del Toro ("Pan's Labyrinth," "Hellboy") has chosen his next project to direct and it's the one fans (and I personally) have been most keen for - his long-gestating passion project "At the Mountains of Madness". http://tinyurl.com/32taps Man, this site is mighty slow with news. Word
this is so damn retarded by lilgorgor	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:38:40 AM
seeing the aliens in present day continuity just pisses me off to no end. why are people excited about this bullshit?
fucked if I know lilgorgor by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:41:31 AM
I'm only marginally less excited about Resident Evil Extinction than I am about this.
what the fuck by Shigeru	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:48:14 AM
"And then the final music cue kicks in and I'm just - fucking - counting the moments to Christmas with Aliens and Predators - and AlienPredators and the last one was quite a bit of a mess."--someone want to explain that one to me?
WHY did they SCREW WITH THE ALIEN DESIGN???!!! by Fish Tank	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:52:12 AM
What's with the spiny shit coming out of their heads? They look like pinecones :-( WHy did they have to have their own take on the design???? The original was PERFECT. Ass-hats! And why does my log-in say I've been a member here for 37 years and 40 days?
Why haven't you shown the poster yet? by JackLucas	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:58:25 AM
This trailer is fucking ancient. Why not post the new poster that showed up at my theatre last week? It's pretty.
Interesting, but will suck. by wowsucks	Oct 3rd, 2007 10:21:55 AM
Looks much better the the last AVP but thats not really saying much. Isn't this the one where Voltron makes his cameo?
It Looks Cool by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 10:39:00 AM
Let me be the first to admit, I really hated...HATED the first one. I hate Paul W.S. Anderson. But seriously, give this one a chance. It doesn't follow Anderson's crappy original It's got some solid visual effects aces behind the lens and it looks to be giving fans what they've always wanted. Plus the rumorss of the Predaor home world at the end of the movie sound interesting. This trailer wasn't the best, but I'm still lookin' forward to this one. You guys need to forgive Fox for thier past mistaes becuase if this fails, they'll never do a "Hard R" picutre of this sort again. It'll be PG-13 all the way. I mean they even trimmed down Die Hard. Don't fail the filmmakers here.
LordSkyliss by Lost Jarv	Oct 3rd, 2007 10:45:16 AM
PLANT PLANT PLANT PLANT PLANT. don't give them a bye for making a R. And the filmakers are failing us not the other way round.
Trailer looks good by drunkenmonkey73	Oct 3rd, 2007 10:55:47 AM
I enjoyed the first one better in the comfort of my own home, like with most movies, even LOTR. I find I can relax more with nice cuppa, so will probably wait till its out on DVD.
I'll second that, Jarv. by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:00:38 AM
YOU PLANTY FUCK! Haven't you drooling corporate tools learned how to deal with us yet? Go, tell your soulless whoremasters at Fox: THIS! IS! TALKBAAAAAAAAAACK!!!
Uhh, not a plant idiots by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:05:42 AM
Not a plant you fucking trolls. Just someone who'd like to see his two favorite franchises meet a fate that isn't PG-13. Idiots.
re LordSkyliss by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:07:06 AM
According to Google, he has never posted on AICN before. Busted.
I hate it when by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:10:01 AM
Man, I really don't understand the hate that this film is getting, seriously. I mean, everyone working on the film has allegedly tried hard to avoid the last film, but still, fanboys bitch and moan like this one's being made by the same morons. It's confusing and really sad. Just chat with the Strause Brothers and you'll know how much they want this to rock in the ways that the first didn't.
I never posted on AICN before because... by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:11:06 AM
I've never been so bummed about something before. Oh my god! This is insane.
Lost Jarv by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:15:54 AM
Talkback Death is Gabriel Gray (aka Harry Potters Nipples, etc, etc, etc, ad infinitum). He's the guy whose claimed to hack the site and obtained "personal information" on AICN staffers. In other words, he's a cunt.
LordSkyliss by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:17:14 AM
How does one "just chat with the Strause Brothers" without corporate access?
Rob Zombie's Alien by Steve_Dooku	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:17:18 AM
Cuz, you know he could really provide a great back story to the Aliens that would involve an interplanetary trailer park and parental abuse.
Alternate International Trailer! by Modus	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:26:11 AM
This Alternate International Trailer is way more interesting! http://tinyurl.com/3yll3g I love that disguised opening!
Paul W.S .Anderson by Jaws Wayne	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:32:59 AM
About W.S., even if the guy never ever makes any worthwhile movies again, he'll always have a special place in my black heart for making Event Horizon, which is simply the creepiest movie I ever witnessed at the movies, at least in the last 20 years or so. That film seriously kinda freaked me out, which really rarely happens. That's a really great sci/fi horror show.
oh my god by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:34:26 AM
"How does one "just chat with the Strause Brothers" without corporate access?" You work as a reporter for "Hollywood Reporter" you idiots. Then you peruse AICN in your free time looking for stories you haven't reported on, post a few times in the talkback for the hell of it and get slammed as a plant. I'm out. Take care. Enjoy what tiny little power you don't have.
Del Torro's directing Lovecraft is Mana... by KillaKane	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:41:11 AM
not to mention extremely Newsworthy on the geek-o-meter, so what gives AICN? catch-up and get that scoop dammit!
LordSkyliss by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:44:45 AM
So, you work for the "Hollywood Reporter"? OK. Thanks for the fucking clarification. Chin up now. Don't be so thin-skinned.
plantyplantyplanty by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:47:50 AM
planty-pants.
Jaws Wayne by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:49:28 AM
I'm with you on that, even if I feel EH falls apart a bit at the end with the cenobite shenanigans.
Why would I need to clarify by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:53:58 AM
Can't someone just voice an opinion without giving out creds. to who they are anyway? I don't get it. Thin-skinned? You're the guys who got all hopping mad when I voiced an opinion you didn't agree with. I got pissed because I got railed for nothing. You guys are like mini-Hitlers. And why are you so convinced it's going to be bad? I'm just curious. Honestly, I don't know if it's going to be good myself. I've just been sayin' that it looks better than the first and that it's cool that it's Rated R. Are you against the R rating? Are you a teenager under the age of 17?
Doc by Jaws Wayne	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:03:48 PM
True, the film does fall apart at the end and normally I despise it when an ending (especially with horror films) kinda or completely blows, but with this film for some reason that bothered me a little less than normal. But yes, the ending is not a good one.
Skyliss handed you yours, didn't he? by anchorite	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:11:21 PM
Before he vanished like a queef in the night. He was right, though. There are people on here with access to filmmakers and they aren't necessarily plants. It makes you look petty or jealous or something when you jump to conclusions about people's identities and motives. Just ask Moriarty. He's the Grand Master of assuming shit. Ah, the Die Hard 4 TB. Those were the days.
That said, this trailer sucked ass. I doubt the film by anchorite	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:12:00 PM
will fare better.
Everyone is leaving out some of the best parts... by DocMHumphrey	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:13:27 PM
Alien was great because of its setting. There was no where for the people to run from the alien. Aliens was the same thing, ticking clock and all, with the added bonus of fun...the Colonial Marines. The marines were that movie. That's what helped make it great. What they need to do is what the AVP video games had accomplished. Mixing the best parts of all three franchises. Exposes the culture of the Predators past the hunt. Showing that the aliens were more. The humans discovering the mysteries of the Pilot race. That's a movie I'd like to see. It would have gore, a militaristic style, science, mystery. Who truly cares that it would have some hot chick in it or 'Silent Night' for that matter.
Memories Of Murder can't spell. As it were. by anchorite	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:15:36 PM
Jesus, man! Take a deep breath before going on a tirade. You seem like you're foaming at the mouth and that can't be good for your Mom's keyboard.
In space, no one will read your screenplay, dumbass by timberwolf4545	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:17:00 PM
In space, no one will read your screenplay I came across the story of a man who became utterly obsessed with the crap-fest that was Alien resurrection and decided to write his own script. The TV told him to do it. Of course, this was a dumb idea, but nothing could stop him. Here is the big story of how NOT to break in to Hollywood. It's freaking hilarious. This guy cracks me up. http://thefifthcolumn.com/blog /?p=305 People should leave comments and abuse him.
At least when Lucas made the prequels... by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:25:37 PM
He only ruined one film series.
Could be a lot of fun by Boondock Devil	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:35:37 PM
Of course I don't know what people are expecting of this? The only way we'll get a good Aliens movie is if Scott or Cameron are attached to a sequel and hopefully it'll be some grand finale of sorts. As far as the Predator movies they were fun but nothing revolutionary. I kind of think of this movie as more of a Predator 3 film with Aliens in it. Not expecting anything to change my life but atleast be entertained for a couple of hours.
Why AVP fails by wowsucks	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:43:12 PM
AVP was a better comic book then any movie will be able to bring out. I would have rather seen a new Alien movie based on current day earth, now that could have been fun. But not both. It's just boring watching these 2 fight on screen. Also the first AVP fucked the whole thing up, like the Hulk movie will do to the sequel. Granted they where smart enough to hire some brass for Hulk 2 to try to win over from the other crap. It's still on peoples minds and will effect the box office.
Some good points... by LordSkyliss	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:51:41 PM
I agree...It seems that the producers have no idea what they're doing. They wanted to avoid Aliens so much when they made Alien 3 and they screwed the entire franchise up. After watching these two trailers though, my guess is that they are slowly building this franchise to a point where the combat marines can once again enter the picture. If they end up on the Alien or Predator homeworld at the end, we might see that. However, regardless, t would be kick ass to see a new Alien flick with high tech marines. But will the cast be nearly as good as the Cameron flick?
Did anyone hear about the Scott/Cameron idea? by connor187	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:52:44 PM
I heard that the idea was to have the movie set on the aliens home world. Humans go there to wipe them out for good but find to their horror, much worse aliens. Basically the Xenomorphs were fleeing their planet to escape from these ultra nastys.....Why oh why then (if its true) did fox fuck this up, because I for one would of paid good money to see this......Bastards!
i knew about the homeworld idea...but Xenomorphs flee? by future help	Oct 3rd, 2007 12:57:07 PM
because they were trying to get away from more bad-ass aliens....hmmmmm, never heard that part. is it true?
well by ironic_name	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:11:22 PM
supposedly, an alien race used the xenomorphs as a form of reproduction.
LordSkyliss by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:18:35 PM
I would just like to point out that I did not call you a "plant". My question was prompted by your statement regarding the Strause Brothers - it's not one someone would normally make lest they had some sort of access, knowledge or previous experience. As for the "thin skinned" remark, this is AICN Talkback. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. If you're going to jump in, you must be cautious. Cheers.
Mayhem does not equal Good Movie by ebolamonkey	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:19:52 PM
When has non-stop mayhem produced a great movie. Pacing. Plotting. It needs to have an intriguing story with moments of mayhem. This looks like it was modeled after a slasher flick, not a great action movie.
Scott/Cameron by Spango	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:21:56 PM
I remember right after Aliens Cameron was asked to do another and he said he would direct 4 if Scott came back for 3. Pity...
Memories-Of-Murder by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:24:05 PM
Quote: "Hwll, i really enjoyued, and quite like, SLITHERS, a movie that is a true example of enjoyable cheese fun (and i noticed many so called horro geeks fanboys don't (which means the problem is not with me nor the movie)." HA, HA, HA!!! As it were.
Memories Of Murder by Jaws Wayne	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:42:38 PM
Hello kiddo. Just wanted to say that I think you're a really annoying young man. So you're actually a fan of cheesy entertainment as much as the next guy on here but "your war is against the bad movies" (...). I remember your crazy rants from that recent Renny Harlin movie thread all too well in which you said the following about all fans of the man's actioner The Long Kiss Goodnight. Here's an excerpt from that " ...people who love "The Long Kiss My Ass Goodnight" piece of shit movie have incredible poor taste and judgement about movies and are too easily satisfied with shit ". Kid, you're a complete idiot saying things like that and you take your so called taste in films waaaay too serious. I already noticed your knowledge of horror movies is also pretty crummy, yet you love spewing your opinions I doubt anyone on here has any interest in. Why don't you just Fuck off. Watch some more movies and come back in ten years from now, no-one is gonna miss you here.
anchorite by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:48:08 PM
It wasn't his contacts with the Strause brothers that prompted the calls of "plant" but the shillspeak his first post was riddled with. As far as I'm concerned, that weighs a lot heavier than his claims of being a reporter for the Hollywood Reporter. As for assuming things, you're assuming M-O-M is an American, which he is not.
He said that about Long Kiss Goodnight? by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 01:49:25 PM
What a jackhole.
Actually, Doc, I assumed he WASN'T American... by anchorite	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:16:27 PM
, that English was a seventh language, and that is why his grammar and spelling are so atrocious. If English isn't his first through sixth language, he needs to learn it a bit better, then come back here to post. I am not the only one who has a hard time parsing through his terrible English. See MNG's post above for an example. It's embarrassing.
And he doesn't like Long Kiss Goodnight... by anchorite	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:18:36 PM
And in the words of the illustrious patriot Danny Glover, "That ain't right." I wish they would make a sequel to Long Kiss Goodnight. I really love that movie, warts & all.
Everyone is sooo angry all the time here. by modlight	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:19:01 PM
Look. Things are never going to be as good as you want them to be so just shut the fuck up and revert back to when you were 10 and realize that having a bloody, gory, violent R rated combination of two of your favorite monsters is probably worth getting excited for. Yes its present day, yes some designs look different, yes the last one sucks, yeah it'd be cooler to adapt the Dark Horse Comics... wahhhh cry me a river. Here's what you do, get excited about this one cause it looks awesome, and if it sucks like AvP then we all come together and say how much it sucked. AS for me I'm going to keep getting excited for any time they bring these characters together because eventually they will get it right, and it will rule.
this movie... by GavinVanDraven	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:22:32 PM
looks better than alien 3, alien resurrection, predator 2 and AVP put together. i still like these films, but they are seriously flawed. the effects in alien 3 were laughable...and killing off your main character wtf? the rubbery looking alien tongues, another stupid cloning plot and that giant alien baby in ressurection... well it was all retarded. in predator 2 danny glover kills a pred in hand to hand combat when even arnold couldnt. LAME! and i am pretty sure LA didnt have all that shit going on in 1997 or whatever. if you are going to set a movie in the future, set it far enough in the future that nobody can laugh at you when it doesnt happen. because you're dead of old age. like try the year 2187... cuz time cop really makes me laugh. oh yeah... and AVP just sucked. T-rex sized queen, no blood, no skinned humans in the theatrical release, pg-13, slow motion face hugger-fu. accelerated growth cycles... bleh. this new film looks to be a step up from those movies.
Fuck you, MOM/BRU by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:44:29 PM
Like I said: you say nationality is unimportant, but you're quick as hell to use Americans' nationality against them when it suits your arguments. Eat shit, seriously.
Memories-Of-Murder by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 02:48:29 PM
I am Herman Melville, Mark Twain and Ernest Hemingway combined and I would just like to say that your English is atrocious. Maybe you need to slow the fuck down when you type. Quote: "...why i should think that The Long Kiss Goodnight is a good movie. And don't come up with the same tired excuse of the "it's a fun movie". That won't do. I need a really good reason more then just one's cocnept of "fun"." Not only is that horrific to read, it plays right into the hypocrisy of what you feel inclined to instruct us is good and/or fun. So, give us a good reason why we should like SLITHER over say...THE LONG KISS GOODNIGHT? And we want a really good reason; NOT your concept of "enjoyable cheese fun". Do you see my point?
I Am Strong by EliteStance	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:05:18 PM
Therefore I will resist this... I will not encourage such nonsense... it does look a teeny tiny bit tempting though - but not enough for me to pay money for. This is one I'll be watching on a flight or TV for free at best. Oh, and Mockingbuddha when you say "Predator is by far the superior franchise" you are being sarcastic. Predator is a hoot and number 2 was not as bad as made out... but no way do they remotely compare to Alien/Aliens as classics of cinema.
I hope that Danny Glover's new dentures by Samuel Fulmer	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:09:51 PM
that he exhibited in Shooter will make it into a future Predator film. He's starting to sound Daffy Duckesque.
"Daffy Duckesque" = MoM by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:22:26 PM

Fox and the franchise. by 2Sheds	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:22:39 PM
Alien 3 was the first instance where i realised that studios just dont see these films the way i see them. They feel that the audience just likes the burst and splat of these movies and thats all we want each time. Possibly that is what the majority wants, certainly that trailer doesnt skimp on that front. Possibly i'm on my own wanting something more imaginitive and grandiose than Aliens and Predators running around sweatsville USA, 200 years before the characters in the first film encounter the fucking thing for what is now NOT the first time. Sort of unravels the title even of that film now, "Alien". When you look at the original Alien movies and the original Predator and consider the directions that could have been taken with the material. Then look at the misjudgements and mistakes that have lead us to this narrow, video game inspired garbage. Frankly it just fucks me off something chronic.
How about a Grindhouse version of A v. P? by Pound Sand	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:36:56 PM
Released in two parts, with a missing reel of a facehugger giving some dude a lap dance?
2Sheds by Samuel Fulmer	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:37:57 PM
Totally agree. I'd add the Star Wars Prequels to the list too. Lucas has to take the fall for that one though, not Fox.
Why The Long Kiss Goodnight is a good movie by Jaws Wayne	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:41:48 PM
Here's what makes The Long Kiss Goodnight a good movie for me. It has a damn fine story (courtesy of Shane Black). It has great acting, especially from the leads Geena D. and Sam Jackson. It has a lot of the best dialogue scenes I've heard before or since in an action film. It has Geena Davis tied to a waterwheel. Once seen, never forgotten. The whole movie is very well filmed, edited and of course has a great score from Alan Silvestri. To sum it all up; the film is just a damn fine watch and has a high re-watchability factor. Anything else you want to know ? Here's a bit of one of the (many) great dialogue scenes between Charlie Baltimore (Davis) and Mitch Hennessey (Jackson); Charlie : "I know he has a pin in his leg, car accident. I... I know he cuts his own hair. He doesn't even own a TV. He... he sits when he pees..." Mitch: "Hey, hey, hey. That's enough, I'm gettin' a boner here, all right?"
So how would you imagine that world? by connor187	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:44:47 PM
I mean lets talk good fucking movie ideas here for a moment and stop bickering. As I said just a bit further up, If that was supposed to be the idea that Cameron had in mind then how fucking bad would these new aliens have to be in order to make the Xenomorphs flee the planet? Iam thinking (and I wish I could of seen it) a truly terrifying organism we have only seen in our nightmares.
Doc, actually all the Aliens have ticking clocks by Abominable Snowcone	Oct 3rd, 2007 03:56:42 PM
In the first Alien, the clock starts ticking when Ripley sets the self-destruct. In Aliens, time becomes critical once the atmosphere processors--which are fusion based--are compromised by small arms fire. In Alien 3, the clock starts ticking as soon as the prison warden (forget his name) alerts the company that Ripley is there. Trouble brews and a dog (or bull, depending on which version you see) varialien wreaks havoc. Will the company arrive in time to 'save' any of the residents of Fury? Or will the 'beast' get them first? In Alien Resurrection, the element of time reverts to the tact used in the first couple movies--the science vessel is compromised when the aliens get loose on the smuggler's ship (remember "Nick" from Cheers tossing grenades into it)? Even after they escape the science ship, timing is crucial because the shuttle is breaking up on reentry to earth.
AvPvET 2: Xeno-Fu-Extraterrestrial Smackdown by Abominable Snowcone	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:02:41 PM
Turn on your heartlight as ET revisits earth--right when a disabled Predator ship crash lands in the same forest. Too soon it becomes clear what caused the crash--other aliens, equally as cunning and lethal. Now ET must phone home before he's sliced and diced in the middle of a slimy, blood-drenched galactic cage match, which just happens to take place in some kentucky backwoods on planet earth! This summer, you can't step!
I'd be willing to bet... by GrubStreeter	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:20:34 PM
...that more than 90% of the people who pay to see this film don't know the meaning of the word 'requiem.'
I don't know who Jaws Wayne is... by Childe Roland	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:31:43 PM
...but so far I agree with two for two of his observations. Both Event Horizon and Long Kiss are underrated films. And I still don't get the Anderson hatred. You'd think he anally raped someone's favorite pup or something. He's made some entertaining fluff. Now someone fill me in on tall the planty, hacky intrigue that's occurred in my long hiatus and left Doc P. so angry that his trademark eloquence is missing. Doc, man, it used to be about the subtle humiliation of these folks...what happened?
Roland by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:36:17 PM
Welcome back. Could have used your input in a number of Tarantino, Roth and Shyamalan talkbacks you missed during your hibernation. As for resorting to blunt force trauma on the vegetation, all I can say is that it's been a long goddamn day and I'm too tired to go for the flair.
That, and... by DocPazuzu	Oct 3rd, 2007 04:38:44 PM
...dealing with Memories-of-Murder/BladeRunner Unit is trying my patience.
Understandable, Doc... by Childe Roland	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:01:34 PM
...and thanks for the welcome. I can only imagine it's been a long summer for you. Are people treally still talking about Roth, Tarantino and Shyamalan? Did nobody see their last movies...oh, wait. That's right. Pretty much nobody did. Guess it's easier to close one's eyes and think of the good times than to deal with the lingering stink of a recently shat turd.
Fridge by Abominable Snowcone	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:13:02 PM
Really? A little kid get chest-bursted? I must have missed it. If so, good. No more of this reverance for the innocent of youth shit anymore. Get a facehugger on that preschooler and infect him with certain death, right now, for my entertainment!
Fridge by Abominable Snowcone	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:13:22 PM
Really? A little kid get chest-bursted? I must have missed it. If so, good. No more of this reverance for the innocent of youth shit anymore. Get a facehugger on that preschooler and infect him with certain death, right now, for my entertainment!
This trailer is almost a month and a half old by zillabeast	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:16:00 PM
WTF mate?^^
I'll be there opening night by sith_rising	Oct 3rd, 2007 05:22:38 PM
with my 3 dollar coke and 5 dollar M&M bag. I like the "Aliens" sound effects and the Predator eye-flash, nice throwback to when the Alien and Predator films were good. But I wish they hadn't used the "Aliens" ridged skulls, I liked the smooth ones. Cool anyway.
Wasn't this posted right here on AICN already? by topaz4206	Oct 3rd, 2007 07:01:29 PM
I saw this here a long time ago
DocMHumphrey by Dotren	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:30:13 PM
I agree... the AvP games captured the feel of the movies for me perfectly. The first levels as the marine in AvP 2 were perfect. I don't understand why these Hollywood writers feel like they need to reinvent the wheel. Some of these franchises are popular already because of the stories in the games, why do we have to completely scrap the storyline before its shot as a movie? I'd pay for a movie version of AvP 2... same for Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, etc.
topaz4206 by Dotren	Oct 3rd, 2007 08:31:20 PM
Same movie, new trailer... and yes it is new, you just have to watch the whole thing.
Requiem for a good movie- I hope! by Violator90	Oct 3rd, 2007 09:20:51 PM
I hated the first one so much! Alien vs. Predator was borne for the comics and still Hollywood fucked up the first one, why? They got a shitty director and an even shittier story with so many plotholes that you would need a whole new talkback just for that. Anyways, like I said before, Alien vs. Predator was borne from the comics, so why not use the comics for the movies? Every thing is layed out, the setting, the dialogue, hell you even got the cast of characters. How hard is it to just FOLLOW THE COMICS!?!?!? Apparently is super hard cause Hollywood has to make NEW stories up instead of following the mythology-which is why Hollywood got their slimmy greedy hands on the property: the money!-and make a kick as movie. The trailers for Requiem look sweet as hell! They look the way an Alien vs. Pretador movie should have been made! But the facts are that the first one sucked donkey dick and I am really hesitant to really expect anything less than shit. I am really hoping that I am wrong on this, hell, I think many of us are hoping and praying that this movie really does justice to the property and not just shit on it like so many other properties have been pissed on before. But the trailers look sweeeet! Here's crossing my fingers that the movie is too.
i hope they make it a christmas musical. by dr.bulber	Oct 3rd, 2007 10:29:00 PM
this avp shit is pathetic. its like house of frankenstein to the original franky.
Mistakes of the past by Allfather Starr	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:27:39 PM
This is what pisses me off. They don't look at the previous films and avoid the mistakes made in those movies. Alien3 had some good points, but the thing that pisses me off about it that most is that they just MADE SHIT UP! How the fuck did those eggs get on the Sulaco? How? They didn't, that's how, there is no way in hell you can explain that one. They totally ignored everything that happened at the end of Aliens. And that's what they did with AvP, they totally ignored what had been set up by the previous movies, i.e. the preds only come to earth in the hottest years. Righty-o, set it in antarctica then. Oh yeah, and have them outside on a ship with no visible breath. Lazy, lazy film-making. Then you look at the worst part of Alien Resurrection, the abomination that was the Newborn. Horrible. It was a terrible attempt at mutating two species into one. So what do they do with this one, same bloody thing. We may not have seen it all, but that shot of the alien with dreads just looked pathetic. Add to that the whole thing about the Nostromo encountering the Alien for the first time, yet now we are to believe there had been many instances of the alien presence on earth, two of them in the modern day, and you have just lost your entire fan base right there. And anyone who says "well this looks fun, I liked the others", that's like drinking a couple of cold beers, then finding out the next one is warm and saying "well I'm sure it'll be alright, looks ok on the outside, and I liked the previous ones."
Funny, sevadro by skoobyx	Oct 3rd, 2007 11:51:56 PM
Way to drop the word 'Xenomorphs' you never hear that one anymore...
Excuse me, Sir... by Allfather Starr	Oct 4th, 2007 12:51:02 AM
a, a what?
Resident Evil: Alien Vs Predator.... by Mixiboi	Oct 4th, 2007 12:53:16 AM
A dozen of Milla Jovovich's Alice clones would kick both of their monster butts... Sadly, we won't see this happen...
From the top: by Lost Jarv	Oct 4th, 2007 03:43:11 AM
M-O-M- My problem with you is simple: you are a revolting, loathsome hypocrite. On one hand you constantly rail against films that do not meet some utterly arbitrary level of quality, and on the other you enthuse about wanting to see a cynical marketing cash-in based on a shitty trailer. Aliens v Predators in Fucking K-mart? predalion? colour me unimpressed. I also find your humourless, condescending, long winded posts tiresome and your patronising attitude offensive. People like the Crazy goatzinger are happy to watch "Bayformers" does that mean it was good? IMO no. Does that mean The Goatzinger is stupid? also IMO no. 2 words why The Long Kiss Goodnight is a quality film- Shane Black. Lord Plantliss- how dare you come over all indignent on AICN when called out for corporate shilling? If you are going to post shit like your first effort then you are going to get called on it. I've said it before and I'll say it again- Alien3 is underrated- and respect is earned not taken for granted. If Fox are giong to continue to fiost substandard crap on the public we have every right to let them down. Congratulations, I am glad you are a journalist and have access to these people but I am dissapointed that you missed the opportunity to flay them for FUCKING K-MART. Go and fuck yourself. Repeatedly and without lubricants. MNG- cheers for the heads up- what a cunty troll.
Being intergalactic trophy hunters... by kingrobot	Oct 4th, 2007 04:46:32 AM
the Predators seem make a real mess of their prey. I don't hunt or anything but isn't the point of trophy hunting to bring back reasonably intact examples of the animals you hunt. Stuff em and hang them on a wall?
And by the way by Lost Jarv	Oct 4th, 2007 06:30:03 AM
regarding your "English from an Englishman" shite: although I am not English, I am 100% British and was born and raised in England. Therefore, I take that as an invitation for me to bitchslap you every time you mangle my language. Cunt
Nice try, asswipe by Lost Jarv	Oct 4th, 2007 07:28:46 AM
Now answer the FUCKING QUESTION
MOM/BRU by DocPazuzu	Oct 4th, 2007 08:08:26 AM
No, you clearly stated that Americans' grasp of the English language is not up to your standards. You didn't qualify your statement as regarding purely right-wing Americans. Nice try, though. Seriously, I've lost count of how many times you've said something insulting to/about Americans and then tried to slime your way out of it when someone calls you on your prejudices. Maybe if you understood the particular nuances of American pop culture and language, you wouldn't come across as being so fucking thick when it comes to Long Kiss Goodnight.
Memories-Of-Murder by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 4th, 2007 08:50:24 AM
Your hypocrisy is without measure. Thanks for completely missing my point and avoiding the question.
uh....Memories of Murder by kilik777	Oct 4th, 2007 08:57:12 AM
I take a piss and shit on liberal fuckers like you too. http://tinyurl.com/pv8do
I was just rereading this thread by Lost Jarv	Oct 4th, 2007 09:11:11 AM
and what I find mildly amusing is that he says that the people who did not like slithers were wrong (It can't be a problem with the film or him). Just like the fact that he has managed to make every TB'er comment on him at some stage must mean that it can't be a problem with him- it must be us I haven't hated a contributer as much as him since fisky hung up his tinfoil hat.
Lost Jarv by DocPazuzu	Oct 4th, 2007 09:15:43 AM
So true. The fucker's virtually ringyesque in his infallibility.
what he'll do now- just to annoy me by Lost Jarv	Oct 4th, 2007 09:19:06 AM
is wait till I stop posting and then call me a rude name. he's European so on my time- so should be around to answer.
You Tube had a nice video of AVP by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Oct 4th, 2007 09:57:49 AM
using 10,000 fists. That three minute clip was better than AVP itself.
You Tube had a nice video of AVP by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Oct 4th, 2007 09:57:52 AM
using 10,000 fists. That three minute clip was better than AVP itself.
You Tube had a nice video of AVP by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Oct 4th, 2007 09:57:57 AM
using 10,000 fists. That three minute clip was better than AVP itself.
Memories-Of-Murder by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 4th, 2007 12:47:06 PM
What? You mean like defending shitty movies like you defend shitty movies? First of all, what particular movies have I been defending so I know just exactly what you're talking about. Second, 99.99% of your posts would seem to indicate that you're not here to "chat about movies". They seem to indicate that you're here to tell people what to think and insult them over their tastes in film. That's YOUR hypocrisy, boyo. Not mine.
Well, MOM/BRU... by DocPazuzu	Oct 4th, 2007 01:46:37 PM
...I'm happy to see that you at least admit to being prejudiced against Americans. So much for your arrogant and santimonious talk of how "nationality means nothing". There is a huge amount of stuff I could use from Portugal's recent history to score cheap points off of you, but I prefer to just attack you as the tool you are rather than impugn your countrymen.
M-O-M by Allfather Starr	Oct 4th, 2007 06:29:32 PM
You give an aspirin a fucking headache.
Memories-Of-Murder by Mr. Nice Gaius	Oct 4th, 2007 11:09:53 PM
Do you suffer from reading comprehension? I asked YOU to tell ME what shitty movies I was defending. Not the other way around. And I sure as hell didn't mention HALLOWEEN. What I've always told you from day one is that I don't care what movies you like or don't like. I do take issue with you attacking people for liking/disliking films that you either like/dislike. Why you can't seem to get that through your head is infuriating.
You clearly don'r know many English people by Lost Jarv	Oct 5th, 2007 03:17:07 AM
or you wuoldn't make such a stupid, asinine statement as that one. The English are busy doing more damage to their own language than any other nation. Have you ever spoken to a Manc, Geordie or Scouser? BTW, it is petty attacking you, but this is TALKBACK.
So far, so good by Librerarian	Oct 5th, 2007 05:05:43 PM
I definitely was not a fan of the last AVP, but this looks great. It strongly recalls everything that was cool and interesting about James Cameron's film. Doesn't necessarily mean we have a movie, but my interest is definitely piqued. I do hope they make that Ridley Scott/James Cameron/Ripley part 5 film at some point though.
AVP Requiem Isn't More Than... by SPGoodman	Jul 18th, 2008 09:05:36 AM
Yet Another Teen Death film when you get down to it. Making it even worse is the fragmented plot, and the misguided belief that, by shooting the entire thing in near darkness, you ratchet up the "suspense". Yeah, like having lots of explosions in Bay's unfortunate revision of the Pearl Harbor story is a substitute for historical accuracy and good dialogue. This watches like a film composited together by committee. All the elements are there: * Guy returns to home town from (jail? prison? Iraq?) just before all hell breaks loose; * Sheriff (who looks like he's in his 20s like the returning guy) knows the guy from sometime in the past; * Girl who remembers him from the old days is married with kid; * Kid gets a nightscope from him for a present (gee, do yah think it's a plot point-to-be?); * Little brother is emotionally scarred from something and is still in high school or just being a truant, and we're told he hasn't been a good boy while brother's been away, had some kind of semblance of a relationship with the Prettiest Girl In Town, who is still hanging out with the Town Jock and his Jock Friends; * There's a nuclear power plant in town, making for an eventual fight site, if not a glorious explosion at the end (anyone who's worked with Michael Bay has an addiction to stupid explosions it seems); and THAT'S just an hour into this movie. I go on. For some reason the Predators have a spacecraft orbiting Earth, and it appears to be the same ill-thought-out lab as found in Alien Ressurrection. Manned by just one Predator of course, who gets attacked of course. The craft crash-lands in Colorado I think, out in the middle of nowhere, just where the above characters happen to be. Fans of the Alien and the Predator films will notice that this isn't in the 22nd century, but present day - quite some time before AVP I, and the Alien series, which presents a continuity problem unless it was the Predators that created the Aliens, so why weren't they in the Schwarzenegger film? Because Predator was a well-thought-out film, and AVP Requiem is a load of rubbish that wants to squeeze the last bit of green blood out of an already exhausted franchise? Mmmmm, could be! I liked the first AVP. It had continuity with the Alien series, AND the Predator films. It was in the bloody future, and you had links story-wise between all of the films. I love the Predator gadgetry, but unfortunately the Predator characters in AVP Requiem are just as fallable as humans, even with the technology at hand. It's obvious to most viewers of the film that this is because the tatty plot requires all the help it can get, just to propel itself along like the lumbering committee project it is. The sole Predator in the film by 1:00:00 has about as much token presence as Lance Hendrickson's in Alien 3. Well maybe a little more, but not enough to provide any real deterrent to what this film is really about: slash and kill the townspeople. The biggest clue to the inability of the 'writers' of this film to understand either Alien or Predator story lines involves the fact that, before any of the townspeople know what the noise downstairs, something-in-the-pool, something-outside-the-house, etc, they're reacting as if they ALREADY KNOW WHAT IT IS. Hell, in the other Alien films at least the folks who got killed didn't have an idea what was going on until it was too late. In AVP Requiem all these potential victims are READY not for 'anything', but FOR ALIEN BEINGS INTENT ON KILLING THEM ALL. It's the biggest, most awful bit of the script-as-such in this film. Perhaps some kind of political statement is being made about the National Guard showing up and nobody else, before they all get slaughtered by a single Alien. Perhaps if they acted as ready and tense as the major characters they'd have survived. The writers should go back to their former jobs of getting coffee and donuts. AVP Requiem should have the prints and script destroyed, if not the morons who put this together. It's not worse than Battlefield Earth, mind you, but that film was squeezed out of the butt of L Ron Hubbard, rubbish science fiction writer and mind-control cult leader. The crap that is AVP Requiem is a pile of crap haphazardly squeezed out of the asses of a committee.

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