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Vampire P.I. Saga MOONLIGHT!!

This will last one season... by Abin Sur	Sep 28th, 2007 01:25:03 PM
Then Herc will be talking about MOONLIGHT: SEASON TWO - The Comic Book.
Oh, and Off Topic... by Abin Sur	Sep 28th, 2007 01:25:55 PM
EW.COM has reported that Jessica Biel PASSED on the Wonder Woman role - maybe some of Herc's Buffy babes are back in the running?
Only reason to watch: Madame de Pompadour by SpyGuy	Sep 28th, 2007 01:30:00 PM
I was going to pass on this until I heard that Sophia Myles was featured in it. I tell ya, David Tennant is one lucky, lucky Time Lord...
Jason Dohring... by Queen Liffey	Sep 28th, 2007 01:40:38 PM
... is singled out as the best part of the show in several of these otherwise very negative reviews. I'll be tuning it to get my Logan fix.
This will last 3 weeks by arrangedletters	Sep 28th, 2007 01:47:42 PM
and then be gone
To paraphrase Bernard Hughes... by Kid Z	Sep 28th, 2007 01:52:16 PM
"That's the trouble with Hollywood... Too many goddamn vampire detectives!"
But is he a Forever Knight? by chrth	Sep 28th, 2007 02:05:36 PM

His name is "Mick St. John"?!? by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 28th, 2007 02:17:18 PM
Bwah hah hah hah. F this Angel wanna-be. Who is going to watch this?
Fuck Vampires by Internet Thug	Sep 28th, 2007 02:32:38 PM
zombies are the new hottness
New Amsterdam by Series7	Sep 28th, 2007 02:39:07 PM
This show looks like the counter part to New Amsterdam. Just like Reaper and Chuck. Big Shots and Dirty Sexy Money.
..and after promoing New Amsterdam all summer by skimn	Sep 28th, 2007 02:53:00 PM
Fox has decided to hold it, perhaps for midseason. Maybe they'll pull a "Drive" on it. This show just angers me more that the WB cancelled Angel just as it was hitting it best stride. I don't know maybe it was so good because Whedon & Co. knew it was their swansong.
The dead pools begin - I give this show 2 weeks by Mullah Omar	Sep 28th, 2007 02:58:48 PM
...before they cancel it and use the timeslot for something else. They may dump the remaining episodes later. Get ready for the single-DVD "Moonlight: The Complete Series."
All the comparisons... by C00L DUD3	Sep 28th, 2007 03:01:31 PM
I really just don't get it!? At least I FINALLY get to check this out for myself, tonight!!! Looking forward to O'Loughlin's return after The Sheild, as well...
They should've called Joss Whedon by Neo Zeed	Sep 28th, 2007 03:08:44 PM
Maybe he had some spare pilot scripts in the trunk of his car. Worth a shot.
What's with Vamps and Convertibles? by sangwyn	Sep 28th, 2007 03:29:59 PM
Seriously. Forever Knight--Nick had a convertible (in Toronto!), and a "sun allergy" (gotta love that), and Angel drove yet another convertible. This character, who sounds like he isn't even Andrew-worthy (and Faith wouldv'e staked within three minutes of meeting him), also has to have a convertible? And fall in love with yet another fake blonde? Puh-leeze. Why didn't they just pick up Drive from Fox? They did it with JAG...
Jason Dohring is a great actor... by DanielKurland	Sep 28th, 2007 03:40:31 PM
I just wish he was doing something I was interested in. There's no way this show will be as good as Angel, so I don't see the point in checking it out really. Getting into new shows is so hard these days with about 80 percent of what's out there getting cancelled.
"Looks like Kate Winslet", eh? by tonagan	Sep 28th, 2007 03:45:27 PM
I hope she's as curvy.
My favorite forever knight show by davids	Sep 28th, 2007 03:47:35 PM
The one were the Police ex-choper pilot has gone blind and is slowy dying from MS. Then her ever faithfull seeing eye dog is attacked by a low level vampire the ones that feed on animales. well any way he turnes the dog into a vampire dog, who can fly and attacks and feeds off muggers and low lifes. The hero vampire cop has to destroy the dog, but the mutt breaks away and attacks his blind owner. Not to kill her but to turn her into a vampire. knight rushes into the room to see that she now can see and is cured of her MS and her patting the dog on the head and telling him, "Good dogie!" i think her fangs were growing too. Last scene the two of them are standing alone as the sun is setting , then they take off and fly away. The Moral= a dodg may be man's best friend. But a vampire mutt is a dying blind woman's best friend of all!
You people think this show is gonna be cancelled? by twitchinmonkey	Sep 28th, 2007 03:59:37 PM
C'mon people, this is CBS we're talking about here. Think about it, Ghost Whisperer starts it's THIRD season tonight. The same people who watch that tripe are gonna love this piece of shit. No, sadly, this thing will still be on the air long after Chuck & Journeyman are distant memories.
Are these reviews of the old pilot? by oisin5199	Sep 28th, 2007 04:18:19 PM
Before they retooled the show and completely recast (except for the lead?). By all accounts that first pilot that the press saw was awful, which is why they changed it. But I'm definitely interested in seeing Jason Dohring as a vampire. That may be the only reason I watch.
Are they going to have crossovers from Buffy and Angel? by PirateEmery	Sep 28th, 2007 04:51:15 PM
They're all the same show, right?
Vampires suck! by The Biomind	Sep 28th, 2007 04:51:34 PM
They raelly do!
It's the new pilot. by Hercules	Sep 28th, 2007 05:06:54 PM
Dohring and Myles weren't in the old pilot.
Gotta Say :The Forever Knight Vampire Dog Episode. by C.K. Lamoo	Sep 28th, 2007 05:08:20 PM
Sounds funnier than the Angel "Seseme Street" episode.
Is this show still on? by chiahead	Sep 28th, 2007 05:51:38 PM
Does anyone watch this anymore? sheesh. I liked it better when it was JUST about an SNL-esque show trying to find its audience. First anti-war propoganda, a pregnant Amanda Pete and now someone's a friggin Vampire? shit. in other news, I really wish i was reading this page over Joss Whedon's shoulder right now. I'll bet he's giggling like a little man-child! And I mean that with all due respect Joss. One man-child to another...
So Blood Ties is better? by EvilWizardGlick	Sep 28th, 2007 06:15:30 PM
Yep I watch AND enjoy it.
Nick's Caddy by SympatheticDevil	Sep 28th, 2007 06:16:33 PM
Nick didn't drive the Caddy because it was a convertible, Sangwyn. He drove it because it had the most trunk space of any car ever made. Made it easier when he got caught away from home at sunrise.
i'm never gonna watch this by coachaaron	Sep 28th, 2007 06:18:49 PM
and i'm a huge vampire story fan. simply based on the rip status of this show. which was angel, which was forever night... angel will never be topped.
Lest we forget Rick Springfield was the ORIGINAL Nick by EvilWizardGlick	Sep 28th, 2007 06:19:31 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00 97969/ "Forever Knight" Nick Knight (1989) etective Nick Knight is investigating a series of murders in which the bodies are found drained of blood - but the most recent one doesn't fit the pattern. Instead it involves the cure that Nick has been searching for for decades, so that he himself can face the light of day. Later remade as the first two episodes of Forever Knight.
I miss Kindred by Purgatori	Sep 28th, 2007 06:22:26 PM
Does anyone else?
i'm going to watch this by dr.bulber	Sep 28th, 2007 06:38:00 PM
just to see how bad it is. and i will be taking names.
I'm keeping an open mind but everything about the lead by Yeti	Sep 28th, 2007 07:34:40 PM
Screams Nick Knight (Forever Knight)
The need to make a show out of To Seduce A Vampire by chrth	Sep 28th, 2007 07:56:42 PM
NICK GOTTA EAT!
Er, 'they' need to make a show by chrth	Sep 28th, 2007 07:57:19 PM

She doesn't look like Kate Winslet! by tonagan	Sep 28th, 2007 08:07:03 PM
Liars! What a let-down.
Saw it and Liked it. And yes I knew who the killer was by Yeti	Sep 28th, 2007 09:10:22 PM
Still I think this has potential. This show has way more in common with "Forever Knight" than "Angel" Forverver Knight never fully lived up to its. (Maybe during the last season but that was 12 years ago) Also find it interesting that people are ready to write things off based on the pilot give it 4 - 6 eps. I seem to recall no one giving Ghost Whisperer much hope and it just started season 3
Well, it might draw in the "Beauty and the Beast" crowd by tonagan	Sep 28th, 2007 09:12:16 PM
(Referring to the Ron Perlman/Linda Hamilton series that, coincidentally, ran on CBS Friday nights...)
Not great, but not awful by Charlie Murphy	Sep 28th, 2007 09:32:39 PM
disliked the two female leads, but liked the two male leads. i really like jason dohring, and was surprised at how much i didn't hate alex o'loughlin. didn't care for the "mystery" they were trying to solve, but did like the new vampire rules. i know there'll probably be vampire purists who will say "but vampires die if they're staked!" or "vampires can't go into the sun!" but i think the show's new rules are kinda cool. overall, a just okay pilot that i think could have some potential. i'll give it a few more hours.
Just Found where CBS will place JERICHO by DarkhawkPrime	Sep 28th, 2007 09:45:23 PM
Fridays at 9 after they cancel this piece of shit by mid-October.
dumbed down for broadcast, unevenly acted and hobbled b by kabong	Sep 28th, 2007 09:54:40 PM
The phrase copied in the Subject line can be used in just about any review for TV this season. (The first episode of "Life" was good.) The reason that these shows seem amateurish is that they are made by 19-year-old hustlers who suck more than the shows.
Surprisingly, it wasn't that bad... by SpyGuy	Sep 28th, 2007 11:27:24 PM
MOONLIGHT isn't going to crack the internet in half, but it wasn't as bad as most of the reviews would lead you to believe. Sophia Myles is as hot as ever and I can't believe no one mentioned that Marshall J. Flinkman from ALIAS is the resident "tech guy." The wife really liked it, though, so I think CBS has found itself a nice companion series for GHOST WHISPERER. If nothing else, at least it's something you can watch after flipping over from DOCTOR WHO on Sci Fi...
I will not be tuning in for a second time because... by Wungolioth	Sep 28th, 2007 11:50:24 PM
1) I didn't realize the main character's name was Mick, not Nick, until I saw a commercial for it later in the night, pretty much sums up how much I cared about the character. 2) Seems to have more in common with CSI than with previous TV shows about vampires which I liked much better. 3) I not only knew the murderer right when I saw him, my 13 year old daughter figured it out pretty quickly after I did. I think CBS could very easily keep this shit on way past its expiration date, but I won't be tuning in.
"health reasons" means... by rock-me Amodeo	Sep 29th, 2007 01:22:08 AM
the show was making him sick.
Not great... by Queen Liffey	Sep 29th, 2007 01:25:28 AM
...but Jason Dohring will make me tune in next week. He truly was a breath of fresh air in this rather dull show. I miss Veronica Mars :(
Knowing all the troubles they had by The Selecter	Sep 29th, 2007 02:52:58 AM
with production, I'm willing to overlook a bad pilot, 'cause the cast might be worth watching if they're given something to work with. But the pilot was really was kind of sucky. But I think the real problem will be that this show will probably just follow the CBS drama formula -- dull and rote procedurals with any sharpness or edge rounded right off so that it can remain palatable to the old folks who watch the network. Just like with Jericho, a show that started with what could be a neat premise, dumbed down, sanitized, and made innocuous.
I love Dohring, but this just blows. by AnnoyYou	Sep 29th, 2007 03:37:46 AM
Forget that O'Laughlin has no personality, forget that Myles has a terrible American accent and that Sossamon is as idiotic as ever - whatever possessed Jason Dohring to take a job on this hot mess? The Scientologists are letting him down in a big way - surely they could have come up with a better gig than this. He's such a great actor and presence, and even he can't save this piece of dreck. Get a new agent, Jason!
another shitty show by ls420	Sep 29th, 2007 08:18:41 AM
jeez, this one will be lucky to last a full season. not horrible, but not what I was hoping for..
FOREVER KNIGHT by tme2nsb	Sep 29th, 2007 09:03:51 AM
SAME. GODDAMN. SHOW.
I liked it by Purgatori	Sep 29th, 2007 01:13:29 PM
although I laughed aloud at the "new kind of hero" plug. It's not. But this has a lot more in common with a few of the paranormal romance novels of the last few years. I"m almost positive one of them had the vamp made by his wife. The visuals remind me a lot of Forever Knight with a budget. And the guy who plays St. John has a lot of charisma. I wished I had took the time to chat with him a Comicon, but I did get to spend time with Sophia, and she's a real sweet heart. Rudolph Martin is so NOT aging well. What the heck happened to him?
and wouldn't you know it by Charlie Murphy	Sep 29th, 2007 02:30:09 PM
it premiered to numbers as good as ghost whisperer.
I liked it... by lynxpro	Sep 29th, 2007 03:15:57 PM
The show is far more "Forever Knight" (or "Nick Night") than "Angel". In fact, "Torchwood" is closer to "Angel" than this. Sophia Myles was great. The child actress that played her character in the flashback looked a lot like the child actress who did the same thing for Myles in the Doctor Who episode "The Girl in the Fireplace" from last year. Don't be sour grapes over this show, Herc.
is it my imagination... by lynxpro	Sep 29th, 2007 03:17:17 PM
Or is this series casting former guest stars from "The Shield"?
more fun than "Life"... by lynxpro	Sep 29th, 2007 03:30:34 PM
"Life" bored me. And here I thought "Journeyman" was going to be the let-down of the season, not counting Kevin McKidd, of course. In retrospect, I'm getting a "Highlander" vibe off "Moonlight". If the series survives, I wonder if they'll cast David Tennant in a guest role.
Not KATE! by landocolt45	Sep 29th, 2007 03:39:51 PM
I thought that she was Elizabeth Rohm there for a moment. This show is so going to be done in about 3 weeks. Then we can buy the 13 episoodes they shot on DVD.
Not even werewolves can save this show, BUT... by Uncle Stan	Sep 29th, 2007 04:15:39 PM
...Werewolves battling robots, now that will save any show,goddamnit!!
Removed from my Tivo Permanently by cowboyone	Sep 29th, 2007 05:02:02 PM
I'm sorry, but the dude is a real charisma vacumn. (He couldn't pull it off on the Shield either ... so I don't know who cast him?!) And the female "lead"? Her dialog was so ridiculous (composing story headlines out loud to herself at a crime scene?!) C'mon! This show makes Joss Whedon look and David Boreanz look like major, major talents.
I knew was gonna be shit by Mr Walter	Sep 29th, 2007 05:14:16 PM
Whedon set the bar to high when it come's to these type of shows.
Moonlight was F-ing terrible. by Mooly	Sep 29th, 2007 06:00:37 PM
Wow. The acting was bad, the writing was bad, everyone acted and spoke in cliches, WAY too much is explained through forced dialogue and the rest of the dialogue felt like it was forcing the plot forward. Oh, and yes, the villain in the first ep WAS obvious the second he came on screen. The show would have been WAY better if they made it more like the commercials and the opining...with a cocky, vampire know it all. Instead they tease it and try to rip off Angel by having the brooding loner.
All this talk by Napoleon Park	Sep 29th, 2007 08:17:42 PM
about Angel just being a cheap rip-off of Nick @ Knight overlooks one thing: they were both stolen from Marvel's Hannibal king, Private Detective (One of the supporting characters from the Tomb Of Dracula series that also spawned Blade.)
I guess anyone can write for TV by RMetkovich	Sep 29th, 2007 10:22:20 PM
I don't know an easier meduim to work in if this is what they choose to put on a primetime network line-up... Apparently what passes for a great idea in television is what they cal plagerism is the real world... I have never seen Forever Knight, but the plot, look, characters, and entire premise is such a rip from Angel that I can't believe it wasn't laughed out of the board room... Well I guess its a comfort to know that if a great show like Angel can't make it on this premise, this show won't last long...last time I checked CBS wasn't exactly pulling in young viewers who would be the audience I guess... horrible TC
Am I an old fart? by CrusherJen	Sep 30th, 2007 12:19:29 AM
Seriously, based on the TV shows lately, I feel like saying, (and you've gotta imagine this in a creaky old-folks voice) "Back in my day, sonny, we had real vampire detective television! Forever Knight, Angel... now they were real vampires! Not those pale pointy-toothed imitations you see now-a-days. And we had to walk five miles just to see them, uphill, both ways, barefoot through the snow..." Cynical, I know, (especially at the tender age of 35) but after walking in from work about halfway through tonight's ML repeat, I find myself wondering why today's shows just can't live up to my fond memories of yesterday. Even starting about halfway in to the pilot, I was up to speed and predicting major plot points in moments. The story was negligible at best, same-old same-old stuff that I feel like I've seen a thousand times before. The lead was OK, I guess, but kind of bland for this type of show's "designated hunk". Sossamon makes a decent Faux-Drusilla, from what little I saw. Will it last? No clue. I far preferred the nuanced, intricately-plotted, under-appreciated gem that was Angel, or even the semi-original-at-the-time Forever Night, in Rick Springfield or Geraint Wyn-Davies flavor. I certainly don't feel like making Moonlight my must-see TV. (But then, the shows I like tank and stuff I can't stand hits. shrugs) I'll take six weeks in the dead pool, and raise you this-- if it does happen to go eight weeks, we'll get the inevitable return of Faux-Dru. Yeah, I know, she was trapped in a burning building, but no-one's ever truly dead in cliche-ridden hack-jobs like this. The only reason I can think of to watch this: it's fun to heckle. Though it would have to improve about a hundred-fold to deserve the comment "it sucks."
Bring back Werewolf from the USA network! by Boondock Devil	Sep 30th, 2007 06:06:45 AM
That was a helluva lot better than this awful piece of shite. P.S. Jason Dohring, get your ass off this show and either reteam with Bell on Heroes or sign up with Lost. Hell, better yet, bust up Shia's kneecaps and get in on the lead for Y the Last Man. Just get off this carwreck of a show!
Is it too late for Night Stalker to come back? by Carl's hat	Sep 30th, 2007 08:09:33 AM
Yeah, I hated the idea, anyone who ever loved the original or Darren McGavin, felt sick at the prospect of a young Kolchak and his assistants..but you know what?, the show was actually good. Gabrielle Union was just plain yum-cha and the show was perhaps the most beautifully shot I've ever seen. Can we get that one back?
jesus christ Boondock-- by Charlie Murphy	Sep 30th, 2007 09:25:39 AM
dohring would be the best Yorick EVER. fuck shia, jason dohring would own... i can't believe i never noticed before.
So bad...it's made of farts by Danger Vole	Sep 30th, 2007 11:16:33 AM
I decided to be open minded because Jason Dohring was on the show. I watched (forced myself to finish)episode 1. Bland-- teetering on homely cast. Worst pacing and dialog ever. Suck ass plot.
Sunlight? by Blackguard	Sep 30th, 2007 05:20:54 PM
He left the Shield for THIS? I guess when you get offered a lead in a new show you take it no matter how awful the script is. Seriously, the sun doesn't kill them?? WTF?? Just another excuse so they can film day AND night. Lame. Joss, Faith, NOW!
After Angel how could they put this on. by SID 8.0	Sep 30th, 2007 06:31:51 PM
Watched it, probably won't watch anymore episodes. Should do an American version of Ultraviolet now that would be worth watching.
seconded on "Night Stalker"... by lynxpro	Sep 30th, 2007 06:48:04 PM
Sure, it wasn't the original, but that was a good show that the old-school fans and the network itself did not give a shot. I'd love to have it on Blu-ray, especially since it was shot on HD. And "What's the Frequency, Kolchak?" was a damn good episode that never even aired. Since Disney/Buena Vista has yet to release it on Blu-ray, check it out on DVD in the meantime.
Sid 8.0 by lynxpro	Sep 30th, 2007 06:49:58 PM
That would be one way to improve the show...give the vampire community some really dirty motivations, like in the original series "Ultraviolet" and not the suckfest film of a similar name.
Hearst College? by retardedmonkey	Oct 1st, 2007 12:00:30 AM
With all the comparisons to Veronica being madelets not forget that one.
Liked it by batjac	Oct 1st, 2007 07:57:26 AM
This show will do well with Ghost Whisperer. Journeyman on the other hand is doomed. And for you Angel fans--David Boreanaz looks so happy on Bones. His career survived being typecasted. Face it folks--Joss Whedon is a hack. I for one welcome a vampire show where they don't have crinkle brows and know kung fu. Besides--if we really want to see a bad show about the undead-we can watch any of the Law and Order shows.
ratings by batjac	Oct 1st, 2007 08:35:03 AM
CBS' vampire drama Moonlight won the ratings battle among adults for its Sept. 28 debut, according to The Hollywood Reporter.
From the Network that gave you "Wolf Lake" by ConcreteParakeet	Oct 1st, 2007 05:05:12 PM
Wasn't that the name of the werewolf show that had no werewolves on it? At least no interesting werewolves anyway.Now comes a vampire show that breaks all the rules and features a non- interesting vampire.So every week Lois gets in trouble and Supervamp rescues her. I don't think the problem is completely the actors although I don't know why they can't let them keep their own accents.When was it uncool to be British in America apart from 200 + years ago?
8 Million + people each week watch this show by the_raftaman	Apr 27th, 2008 09:51:03 PM
Let me start off by Saying, I like Buffy, I like Angel, and Moonlight is nothing like either show. So far it's lasted 13 episodes, and has 3 more left of it's current season. With 8 million + watching each episode, it's very possible that the series might be renewed for a second season. People should give this show a chance, and if you like the few episodes you can stream from CBS's site let em know.

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