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Massawyrm Says SOUTHLAND TALES Goes South Fast And That KILTRO And MIRAGEMAN Can't Come North Fast Enough!!

first by PVIII	Sep 24th, 2007 10:32:10 AM
hm.
Donnie Darko had SERIOUS Nickalodian elements by birdybirdmanreturns	Sep 24th, 2007 10:33:18 AM
ya dig
finally by bigfroben	Sep 24th, 2007 10:37:21 AM
a sane review on tales. thank you!
wow, harsh review by PVIII	Sep 24th, 2007 10:41:05 AM
nothing redeeming in the movie? Nothing worked? Oh and the graphic novels were great - not wanting to read them for the sake of being an asshole is ignorant. They're just as good as standalones, so if that makes you feel better about yourself. Also, I'd rather watch a trainwreck like ST that tries do something different, then some paint-by-numbers film.
Midgets in raincoats ... and whiskers on kittens by half vader	Sep 24th, 2007 10:46:38 AM
Hey Massa, maybe it's a nod to PKD by way of Ridley Scott's Bladerunner - that had midgets in raincoats!
You've Convinced Me by bnl771	Sep 24th, 2007 11:13:32 AM
I will check out Mirageman this week. Was going to skip but between your enthusiasm and the fact that Marko Zaror stopped to talk to me the other night and seemed genuinely interested in how I was enjoying the festival and then asked me kindly to come to his movie IF I was interested... Well... I can't say no to Marko.
Southland Tales rocks by Doc_Strange	Sep 24th, 2007 11:20:31 AM
Because I looked over at Kurt Russel and he was laughing so it's OK.
A mess by gride9000	Sep 24th, 2007 11:26:45 AM
Yeah, wow harsh. This movie is becoming more interesting the more people seem to get angry at this film. Donnie Darko was a "Mess". "Inland Empire", how bout Bunuel films? Are they a mess? Dude listen up the only thing that was a mess, was this wack ass hatchet job of a review.
Might of saw this coming. by pretentiousboy	Sep 24th, 2007 11:29:00 AM
We all witnessed kelly crossing the pretentious line when he did the DD directors cut. Maybe he's gone overboard. Still seems like a good kid. Hope he can make a better movie next time. Still... it can't be any worse then solaris.
Well.... by Aquatarkusman	Sep 24th, 2007 11:45:53 AM
Bunuel has Fernando Rey, Monica Vitti, and Jeanne Moreau to fall back on; I don't think the iconic casting of Stifler is going to make up for overreach. I mean, honestly: even Gregg Araki probably thinks this casting is shit. But I do like this game: WAS HOWARD THE DUCK A MESS?
I actually want to see this more now by hktelemacher	Sep 24th, 2007 12:11:18 PM
I was only so-so interested until that review.
You are all much smarter than Richard Kelly by JAGUART	Sep 24th, 2007 12:19:26 PM
So don't give him the credit for you making his shitty movies better than they really are.
yeah by harold_maude	Sep 24th, 2007 12:40:49 PM
this only makes me want to see it more.
Sounds like we have another Dune on our hands by Garbageman33	Sep 24th, 2007 12:45:34 PM
Speaking of David Lynch, what the hell was he thinking there?
Hey, did you guys hear Southland Tales is a mess? by Demosthenes2	Sep 24th, 2007 12:46:17 PM
God, way to dismember a horse when it's down. With that malevolence you'd think Massawyrm was writing about the Bush administration. I'm starting to pity Mr. Kelly; this movie has taken an obscene number of beatings, and every critic writes as if they're the first to recognize how convoluted it is, even if they acknowledge the disastrous reception at Cannes. On any given day I'd rather watch a movie with innovative ideas that don't come together, than something formulaic and pedestrian. Southland Tales may not be a good movie, but that doesn't mean we don't want movies like it that are trying something new. And beating Southland Tales to a bloody pulp will certainly shy many producers away from any ambitious projects like this one.
C Legion by MatDGZ	Sep 24th, 2007 12:46:23 PM
You have a good point. Lynch is established, he's made a fuckbucket load of films and the guy has his style down. Kelly made one good movie, and it was a REALLY good movie...and then the DC came out and I cried, then the dog cried, then I cried again. What a shitmess of awfulness. I know no one is saying this means Kelly is an ass, I think he is finding his feet and has every right to fuck something up. I will see this movie, because I truly feel I have to. Kelly hit hard with DD and I would like to see something he didn't get so right, I just have to. he will do something wonderful again.
Nice to see... by mastes360	Sep 24th, 2007 12:50:09 PM
..all the 'intelligent' and 'cool' posters trying to defend this mess as if its oscar material or something!. The trailer looked a mess and dumb as hell, just because a film is hard to understand, doesn't mean thats its great guys!.
Massa - Little people are geeks too... by Aloy	Sep 24th, 2007 01:14:24 PM
and they really don't get off on being called midgets, evocative as the raincoat midget term might be for you. Ebert.com has a fascinating discussion on this that dates back to 2005.... so get with it dude!
thank you by master bitchfist	Sep 24th, 2007 01:20:00 PM
for that review of southland tales. you took the words right out of my mouth and then spun them into a cohesive and well written thought.
Hey, you goofy apologists... by GabrielsChains	Sep 24th, 2007 01:27:54 PM
...since when did the choice become between Formulaic Crap and Esoteric Crap? Call me crazy, but I actually prefer CLEVER movies that think OUTSIDE THE BOX that also deliver in terms of story, character, and experience. "Being random" and "being fresh" only equal the same thing if the filmmaker knows that the hell they are doing. Very few great movies, if any, have been the result of a filmmaker that doesn't know what he's doing getting everything they want -- which is exactly what it sounds like happened with Southland Tales. I mean seriously -- raise your expectations. Breaking Rules is only to be commended if a picture is the better for it. Otherwise, a piece of shit is a piece of shit, no matter how many conventions it bucks.
HalfVader, you gave me the biggest laugh of the week. by Lenny Nero	Sep 24th, 2007 01:43:45 PM
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm editing a documentary on movie musicals right now, and I really cannot freakin' stand to hear another bar of "Sound of Music." For the love of Jule Styne, leave me alone Rodgers & Hammerstein!
Big ups, Massa! by ye olde shiza	Sep 24th, 2007 01:50:05 PM
Southland will be fun to watch, I have no doubt, even if it's a disaster as you say. But I do have to give you the credit you deserve Massawyrm. Thank you for having the balls to be honest. If this film is indeed fucked, then Richard Kelly needs to hear it before he becomes like an M. Night and runs off touting himself to be the Queen's English. He needs to get knocked a good bit and hear honest, well-intentioned criticism so that he can become a stronger, better artist next time around. Look at ol' Aronofsky and "The Fountain." Some say it's beautiful. Hell, I like watching it for the sole reason that it is visually incredible, but that's about it for me. When you become full of yourself as an artist, you try to destroy the boundaries of the medium, to become like a zen master of film or painting or whatever your art form is. Well, Kelly failed this time, it seems. No biggie. Who hasn't, I would ask? Every artist has big dreams, and I'll be buying my DVD and paying for a ticket just to watch this "mess." Massawyrm being honest about the film made me feel much more at ease than Harry's sales tactics.
Garbageman33 by kwisatzhaderach	Sep 24th, 2007 01:53:48 PM
The sleeper must awaken.
Dude - SUCH a smart, eloquent review... by martianalien	Sep 24th, 2007 01:55:44 PM
seriously. I am pysched to see this and am pretty sure it'll annoy the BeJeeze outta me but your description was so on the nose with the problematic script I groaned through. Here's the other thing: BRAZIL isn't even diffuse - its a fairly simple narrative about misID. What is complex/interesting/off-the-wa ll are the DETAILS that paint the world for you (my fave-DeNiro the nonunion plumber)...this is why you can actually focus on and take in Brazil so well. Southland Tales has a zillion different plots - many without sense or closure to them. After the first act you just feel distracted, not engaged. Still, I wanna see the Octo-energy thing for myself(!) :)
Tell me... by micturatingbenjamin	Sep 24th, 2007 01:58:15 PM
What the fuck was El Topo about? Or for that matter, what the fuck is The Shining really about? The elements and visual style and Jack Nicholson are all creepy slapped together like that...Hell, isolation is scary...but there's no story in the film version of the Shining...It's just a scary fucking movie mess...I know, I'm gonna come off as a visigoth or something for saying that Kubrick's movies are sometimes densely made and just...don't hit me where it counts... I tend to disagree with Massawyrm on stuff...but just reading the idea of the characters makes me go..okay, this is one of THOSE movies...I'm probably gonna wait for DVD...I'm just saying it's not the mission of flicks to say to you :THIS IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT ALFIE... That said, I bet Massawyrm's on the money about it...and Kelley better have another fucking 'Mad World' soundtrack moment that fucking cements the flick. What sold Donnie Darko? The art directed rabbit, the soundtrack, and Jake Gyllenhaal in that fucking skeleton shirt.
P.S... by martianalien	Sep 24th, 2007 01:59:59 PM
Brazil's main character SAM LOWRY was the only decent/sane character in the world. Southland's characters are all caricatured FREAKS.
You can see this watching the trailers, for God's sake. by AnnoyYou	Sep 24th, 2007 02:07:30 PM
And the leaked footage, come to think of it. I love the Rock, and it pains me to say this, but Southland Tales seemed like pure idiocy from the beginning. Of course, I think Donnie Darko is pure puerile cinematic wanking, so maybe I'm prejudiced, but I think everyone will agree that ST is a POS.
Memories by ye olde shiza	Sep 24th, 2007 02:08:18 PM
No need to be sorry to disagree. I like it when people do, which is why I'm praising Massawyrm for his review in one respect. Disagreeing with something means you have a different opinion and you need to share it. As far as The Fountain goes, it is indeed a beautiful film. It has a structure. But I feel it was very heavy-handed. I don't feel confused by it, and I actually enjoy the message, but I felt like by the time I walked out of the theater, I had been eaten alive by Aronofsky's message instead of being able to uncover it for myself. It felt like an state-paid war-film, just about love, instead of "fighting the good fight."
Harsh (with small spoiler) by BDT	Sep 24th, 2007 02:09:04 PM
Too harsh on Southland Tales, Wyrm. I'd actually like to see ST again, being too caught up in trying to find out what happens next more than seeing the little connections, clues, etc, wherein the entire story actually lies...not the what happens next. SPOILER You are told what happens "next" from the beginning. END SPOILER I thought this was visually interesting and the music was awesome. Richard Kelly is a genius for picking music...or whoever helps him do it is. This movie is about destiny, serendipity and details that happen in a split second. I know some folks didn't much care for it, but I truly would like to see it again. I'm not apologizing for RK, but I think this was more than a decent effort and shows a lot of hard work and is not nearly worth the harshness of your review. My only complaint was there were too many famous faces that seeing them in this story was a tad too tongue in cheek distracting and took me out of the suspended disbelief... like John Travolta in Hairspray. He did a remarkable job, btw, but all I kept thinking was "that's John Travolta" everytime he was on screen. Every time Wallace Shawn is on the screen, all I think is "there's Wally Shawn". It was distracting... other than that, I really enjoyed the movie, especially Dwayne. What a cutie!
okay Memories-of-Murder by GabrielsChains	Sep 24th, 2007 02:13:31 PM
I like how you just got DESTROYED by necgray and then didn't even attempt to refute one of his points. Probably because he NAILED you. HEADS UP RETARD: Ambition doesn't mean shit. Execution does. The world is filled with a ton of folks with ambitions to change everything -- film, politics, the economy, humanity -- and they don't do shit, and history passes them by and their intentions are forgotten. Having ego and ambition is EASY -- just look in the mirror -- having the talent to create an original vision is DAMN HARD (I'm guessing we can all ask Richard Kelly about this one). We'll all see ST through one medium or another, and we'll call it as we see it, but for the sake of all things holy, GIVE UP THE DESPERATE RHETORIC. SHIT is SHIT, no matter how well intentioned it was. Maybe if all shitty movies come with 3 part graphic novels explaining how nobody really MEANT for them to be SHIT, they just sorta turned out that way, it would be a different story, but for the time being we're talking about FILMMAKERS, and if their film SUCKS, it begins and ends there.
Genius Director? by Redfive!	Sep 24th, 2007 02:26:37 PM
This is why im starting to Hate Kelly.Donnie Darko's Theatrical cut was far superior then his crappy directors cut,The directors cut made the movie far worse. This guy is hardley a Genius Director,he has yet to prove sh*t. Plsu like ive said before he owes his carrer to The Twilight Zone.
The only reason anyone cares about Southland Tales by wintocha67	Sep 24th, 2007 02:28:55 PM
Is Sarah Michelle Gellar. She ought to be in pictures.
Richard Kelley and his "career"? by landosystem	Sep 24th, 2007 02:54:46 PM
The guy made one movie, hardly a career, since when is producing one low budget movie a career? If I made a table by gluing some broom handles onto a board I wouldn't call myself a carpenter... He may redeem himself in time, but as far as I've seen, he made a so so film called donnie darko, fucked it up in the directors cut, and that is all. Oh yeah, and from that trailer all I see is a giant mess, I may be proved wrong, but sean williams scott and the rock? I am dubious.
M-O-M by GabrielsChains	Sep 24th, 2007 03:11:24 PM
Well, when somebody responds to your post, breaking it down and calling you out point by point, and you have no response whatsoever, other than to try to sidestep their points with "stalker" talk, it's pretty clear to me that a) you've been called out, and b) have no substantive response. Hence, destroyed. Not only that, but your analysis of ST and APOCALYPSE is also woefully reaching (or just naive, not sure which). Saying "I don't care if I'm being pretentious" is very different than setting out saying, "I'm going to be pretentious", which is essentially what Kelly did with ST. Which seems to be one of the main issues Massawyrm has with the film -- it's showy and flashy, with fancy ideas and juxtapositions that are supposed to make everyone sit up and go "oooh, clever!", but it has no SOUL (something APOCALYPSE truly oozes with). So, you're wrong (again).
What might be wrong with Southland Tales by Neo Zeed	Sep 24th, 2007 03:33:38 PM
Maybe Richard Kelly didn't put enough vital details for the audience to "get" his movie. For example, Donnie Darko had a great atmosphere and some cool scenes, but he didn't give enough info to help interpret it. Even Mulholland Drive or The Fountain played fair with the audience. They are confusing at first, but there's enough vital information and clues to help interpet the film in a logical way. Kelly instead seems to not film thosee scenes. Instead, he tries to retroactively fill in the blanks by putting text over his movie like in DD: Directors Cut or make comic book prequels like with Southland Tales. In Donnie Darko, there were passages in that Roberta Sparrow book that if filmed with actual scenes (not creating text overlays after the fact) would've helped clarify and improve the film. Not overexplanation but just enough details to help connect the dots. Lynch has Naomi Watts waking from a dream. Aronofsky has a present day/future scenario. These concepts we are familiar with. Kelly says that you're dealing with fictional logic, that's only available in a fictional "Roberta Saprrow" book...and he won't let you know what's in it. Come on, that's just incomplete writing. Even in "mindfuck" movies you gotta play fair.
martianalien by PVIII	Sep 24th, 2007 03:37:00 PM
In many respects, Lowry isn't supposed to be a likeable character at all. I.g. not giving up his seat to the one-legged woman on the tram, and in an earlier scenes where he asks for the woman to sign a receipt for he husbands death. He's more a creation of the society around him.
Memories-of-Murder is an interesting dichotomy by Garbageman33	Sep 24th, 2007 03:48:45 PM
He's an elitist who also happens to be semi-retarded. Weird combination.
Mirageman and Kiltro by ye olde shiza	Sep 24th, 2007 03:52:55 PM
Now since everyone's seemed to ignore these flicks, I have a suggestion for you AICN'ers: put stories about highly controversial movies by themselves. It seems like putting Mirageman and Kiltro on the bottom of this review vaporized any chance they had of being read or responded to. Either way, I think I will go check them out. I wish every Chow film would be like the beginning five minutes of Kung Fu Hustle. He should make a dance/musical/comedy.
Hey PV111 by martianalien	Sep 24th, 2007 05:04:29 PM
hey there - very good point. I meant that he ends up sane/decent by pic's end....and of course is lobotomized for it. As he should be! :) Ah, it brings me back to that sad CU of Jonathon Pryce's face over which we hear Palin say "I think we've lost him." Gives me chills! :)
What about the people who hate Donnie Darko? by BitterMan23	Sep 24th, 2007 05:14:36 PM
Will we love this thing, or find it even more excruciating???
This really seems like a 'must see twice' movie by performingmonkey	Sep 24th, 2007 05:41:58 PM
Donnie Darko is the same. You haven't watched it unless you've seen it twice (and I'm not talking about the director's cut, which should only be watched if you want sucky explanations for what's happening in the movie). Donnie Darko simply cannot be understood and yet it's still a great movie (it's just...you don't really know WHY it's a great movie!). However, it seems Southland Tales is a BAD movie that cannot be understood, at least on first viewing. Does that give people the right to call it a 'mess'? Maybe. But I think everyone should have to watch it twice. It know what you're thinking 'why would I want to put myself through that trainwreck again yada yada fucking yada' shut the fuck UP you idiots, you think you know EVERYTHING about movies, don't you? Well I'm Richard Kelly and I'm asking you to GIVE ME A FUCKING CHANCE! I mean...Kevin Smith is in this movie, for frak's sake! Is that not enough for you?? Am I not merciful? AM I NOT MERCCCIFFFULL????!?!!!?!??!?!? !??!!??!!
Southland tales is probably one of those movies that... by Doc_Strange	Sep 24th, 2007 05:49:20 PM
Are so cerebral that it will take decades for the movie to finally catch on, kind of like Blade Runner and Tron. So in its initial run it'll bomb hard. But then over the years it will develop a cult following, if it hasn't already, then will be screened at midnight showings and shit over several years and will sell well on DVD until one day it becomes a part of pop culture. Kelly is a genius.
"I love Kelly's work" by MPJedi2	Sep 24th, 2007 05:56:48 PM
yeah - he has such a long history on which to base a statement like that. "I thought Donnie Darko was a pretty cool mindfuck" is a more honest statement. And this film shows us tha, in fact, Kelly doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. Donnie Darko = Pure, stupid, blind, doo-dah LUCK.
Thank you MPJedi2... by GabrielsChains	Sep 24th, 2007 06:15:03 PM
...for making sense. I think Donnie Darko has found so much appeal because Kelly's success has been sorta like Forrest Gump -- it shows you can luck into the greatest success in the world. And if all it takes is luck, it can happen to any of us. Kelly keeps the 30-year-old bedroom dreamers' hopes alive.
If your going to fail, fail spectacularly! by Yeti	Sep 24th, 2007 06:16:45 PM
Kudos Kelly. Kudos.
People defending the intellectual content of "pop art" by Monkey Butler	Sep 24th, 2007 06:21:03 PM
By its nature, pop art is totally meaningless. It's literally all style, no substance. You can try to read any number of things into a badly screen-printed image of a soup can, but Warhol's whole point was it looked cool, and absolutely nothing more. Now there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but when people start reading so much into this film like they did with Darko, it'll just make them look stupid. Darko was a weird little time travel movie with some decent performances and zeitgeist "random 80's" humour, nothing more. The script to Domino was in the same vein, with a lot of room for style and humour but ultimately meaningless, and Southland Tales looks to be more of that. If you want to cannibalise classic literature, here's something for you R.Kelly: "sound and fury, signifying nothing". Fret and strut all you like, but you'll just look ridiculous.
"Pop Art rarely comes from someone setting out... by rbatty024	Sep 24th, 2007 06:24:38 PM
to make it." WTF! No, pop art is characterized by its extreme sense of self-consciousness. That's the post-modern condition. Andy Warhol was extremely self-conscious about his image and about how people viewed his work and the work itself, it didn't "just happen." Anyway, that remark was terribly off base. Even if this movie does suck, I'm still interested. I've just seen too much of the same recently, I have to watch something that's completely different, even if it fails.
Spectacular Failure by Rustle	Sep 24th, 2007 06:34:40 PM
I couldn’t agree more with your review of Southland Tales. I was at the screening. I thought Harry was a bit too kind to this one, and am glad to see you call it out for what it is.. I was glad I saw it. I enjoyed the Justin Timberlake musical number. It’s not boring, but it’s not a cohesive film either. Here’s hoping Kelly can put this one behind him and give us future projects that come together better.
Pop Art comes EXACTLY... by FILMFUNK	Sep 24th, 2007 07:03:57 PM
from someone setting out to make it as Superficial and artificial, as possible! Screenprint of Soup can!!! Enlargement of Comic Book Frame! I hope the confused are getting this wrong like when everyone including Harrison Ford didn't ''Get'' BladeRunner but sadly it does look like an unmitigated MUSH MUSH!
Okay then.. by micturatingbenjamin	Sep 24th, 2007 07:56:39 PM
Fine...let's play this game: Close your eyes and in your head picture the movie that stars the Rock, Sarah Michelle Gellar and Stifler. I don't give a flying monkey's ass, that sounds like Kelly should have stuck with the original name for this flick: BOX OFFICE POISON. (Thank You Norm MacDonald)
Thanks Mass by Captain Hollywood	Sep 24th, 2007 11:38:29 PM
Now I definitely won't be seeing it... or at least pay to. I'm intrigued to see how 'bad' this could be.
More I hear and see about Southland Tales... by GilesT	Sep 25th, 2007 01:01:41 AM
...the more I'm convinced I'm going to love it. ...and be the only one who does.
The fifth element by Affleckwasthebomb	Sep 25th, 2007 03:20:50 AM
This remind any one else of the fifth element, another disaster? I like the fifth element though so I'll hold out on judging to harshley.
Why have people started to say "I COULD give a shit"? by Edward_nygma	Sep 25th, 2007 04:48:50 AM
It's COULDN'T give a shit. You're saying the opposite of what you mean. You're saying you care.
Garbageman33 by DocPazuzu	Sep 25th, 2007 05:48:15 AM
That's what got him banned when he used to be BladeRunnerUnit.
memories of Murder is my enemy by messi	Sep 25th, 2007 06:34:18 AM
I ahve been wanting to fight the cunt for along time. Though i forget why, but like every superhero and his arch nemesis they will continue fighting. Though I destroyed part of my rogues gallery already, like Ganymede2010.
Would be funny if this movie by messi	Sep 25th, 2007 06:35:48 AM
ends up being the Blade Runner of this Generation(even though I consider it to be Children of Men or the Matrix most likely). I mean you can say all you want about Kelly but it's not like Ridley Scott did anything magical after Blade Runner, his career has been living off that and Alien.
M-O-M is the J.R. Ewing of Aint It Cool by Garbageman33	Sep 25th, 2007 07:50:41 AM
Sure, he's a giant douche and nobody likes him. But it'd be a lot less fun without him around.
Shock Treatment by bingo the clown	Sep 25th, 2007 08:50:27 AM
Is NOT a sequel to Rocky Horror. It has some of the same actors, and some of the characters have the same names, but those characters are not the same ones as in RHPS. It main problem is rotten choreography, and the fact that it was a satire of something that didn't exist at the time (reality TV).
Lenny Nero by half vader	Sep 25th, 2007 10:00:54 AM
My pleasure dude. One of my favourite games is scarring my wife by changing lyrics so she can never hear the song the same way ever again. Sucks to be her.
Bingo the Clown, you're mistaken by geekzapoppin	Sep 25th, 2007 10:51:45 AM
SHOCK TREATMENT is most certainly a sequel to ROCKY HORROR. Just look at the shooting script. You can't tell me that Brad and Janet Majors and Ralph and Betty Hapschat are just coincidentally the same names in the two movies. THEY'RE THE SAME CHARACTERS. That being said, Massawyrm is an idiot. SHOCK TREATMENT isn't a classic, but it's highly underrated. His "review" of SOUTHLAND TALES made me want to see it even more than I did. Even if it is a "mess," I'd rather see an interesting catastrophic mess than a dull Hollywood cliché any day. Seeing something different is the reason I watch movies.
necgray by GabrielsChains	Sep 25th, 2007 12:57:02 PM
Namaste. I honor the place where you and I are one. p.s. Geekzapoppin -- I'd rather see a well told, well acted, innovative story than either a gimmicky catastrophic mess OR a bunch of Hollywood clichés. It's easy to see genius in an empty canvas.
geekzapoppin by bingo the clown	Sep 26th, 2007 08:59:40 AM
Sorry, you're wrong. Shock Treatment started as a sequel to RHPS, but that script was dumped after they lost financing. Watch the documentary about Shock Treatment on youtube.
Way to go. by Chumkid	Sep 26th, 2007 09:14:52 AM
I didn't expect to read anything negative about Southland Tales, especially not here on AICN. Anyone with half a brain knew that it was going to be a failure as soon as they read the synopsis.

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