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GALACTICA Spinoff CAPRICA
Finding New SciFi Traction??

SciFi pull your head outta your 4th point of contact... by Red43jes	Sep 20th, 2007 12:28:38 AM
Give us the show, complete. Don't drag it out! Furthermore, WHY in the BLUE HELL make Caprica??? Everything we have heard about it sounds, well, HORRIBLE! SciFi get your head outta your asses!
Oh ya, and first! by Red43jes	Sep 20th, 2007 12:29:09 AM
Had to say it...
Fuck Sci Fi! by arrangedletters	Sep 20th, 2007 12:30:00 AM
Battlestar needs to end soon. It's so stale. Stupid Bob Dylan and Immortal Cylons. Who wants to bet against me that when they get to earth we find out we're really the original human cylons?
Fucking bullshit... by superhero	Sep 20th, 2007 12:30:04 AM
Wait until 2009 for the last 10 episodes? Give me a frakin' break...
FUCK THAT SHIT! by tristeele	Sep 20th, 2007 12:35:33 AM
Seriously we've waited this long, they can FUCK THEMSELVES.
correct link by pavemental	Sep 20th, 2007 12:35:59 AM
Until Herc fixes the link above: http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/ja mes-hibberd/2007/09/sci_fi_exe cutives_weigh_battle.php
Suck it long and hard Sci-Fi by CrazyJoeDavola	Sep 20th, 2007 12:45:54 AM
If they try to hold the final 10 eps. off until 2009 I hope someone leaks them online early as a last little fuck you to those pricks at Sci-Fi.
Sci Fi can suck my fat, greasy dick by Bob of the Shire	Sep 20th, 2007 12:51:22 AM
A super douchebag move like that would piss me off to no end. If they split the season like that then fuck them up the ass.
Why do studios always bite the hands that feed them? by Karl Hungus	Sep 20th, 2007 12:59:54 AM
Increasingly, studios seem to becoming more and more disrespectful of their audience, largely because executives with no love of the material or format are taking control. This is BSG split is the dumbest, most hostile move I've seen a studio make recently...and that's saying something.
Yeah, NO SHIT we're going to freak out by Ep. 10!!!!! by NoPIX	Sep 20th, 2007 01:11:32 AM
It's going to be brutal if it happens.
Has Universal learned nothing? by The Merk	Sep 20th, 2007 01:14:09 AM
Are they some how going to coerce Skyone into not showing the last 9 episodes? Do they not understand how bittorrent works? I mean they've already tried this shit once before. http://www.mindjack.com/featur e/piracy051305.html
Brutal by SanityKaos	Sep 20th, 2007 01:17:20 AM
You guys are brutal...At least we get a true ending! (anyone see the last episode of Twin Peaks? unresolved!)....And we might get Caprica! (More Galactica, different characters!)...I hope ep 10 is totally crazy!!!
It's really simple by dukrous	Sep 20th, 2007 01:18:17 AM
If SciFi splits the season in two, I won't watch or buy anything BSG.
Herc, didn't SciFi order 22 eps for season 4? by JackBauerJackBauer	Sep 20th, 2007 01:24:15 AM
I could swear that when the story broke the order was for 22 episodes, the first 2 being what we now know as Razor. I could very well be wrong, but that's what I remember.
They want to Screw Us and Retain Us--dumbasses! by chromedome	Sep 20th, 2007 01:31:34 AM
"Plus, executives say “Caprica” has the potential to retain and expand the passionate “Battlestar” audience." Not if they hose us by splitting the season up....
One single piece of good news in that article: by chromedome	Sep 20th, 2007 01:32:34 AM
by the time “Battlestar” returns next year, Sci Fi Channel will have launched its high-definition simulcast channel, allowing viewers to finally see the show in HD during its premiere run about damn time!
ugghhh... for the love of christ by codymr	Sep 20th, 2007 01:34:02 AM
I'm in Canada and we get US cable shows usually 6-8 months after they air on American cable. Looks like I won't be seeing the end of BSG until something like 2010!? I don't mind long delays between seasons (like the Sopranos), but if you have them in the can and packaged for air, just show the COMPLETE season in one shot. PLEASE.
They won;t hold the final ten back a year... by Sledge Hammer	Sep 20th, 2007 01:36:30 AM
...A few months maybe, but definitely not a whole year, they'll want the cash from the DVD sales sooner than that. That's my prediction anyway.
since season 3 stank by prbt	Sep 20th, 2007 01:40:11 AM
(apart from the first few episodes), I'm finding I care less and less about BSG. Do it, Sci-Fi, split the season up. Watch me care; in fact, I'll video myself caring, and let you watch.
Fuck Sci-Fi Channel by Russman	Sep 20th, 2007 01:49:46 AM
assholes
frakkin Finance Bean Counters don't measure things by chromedome	Sep 20th, 2007 01:50:06 AM
...the way any normal person does. Splitting the season, and therefore the dvd sales, too, allows them to assume income/cash flow for two years. At the company I work at, the finance people always report the budget situation, not in dollars, but in Headcount. "We are currently 100 heads over budget" The only thing they can think of to save money is to lay off employees. Plus, they define terms so that they can take credit for money (accounts receivable) that they have NOT ACTUALLY RECEIVED yet, and claim it in their financial statements. I left a company once because they pulled almost all the workforce in every Christmas to New Years to stuff boxes full of loose chassis, cards, wires and parts, and ship them to customers. They could then pump their year-end financials by taking credit for the billed items, and then "repair" the boxes of crap "under warranty". Fortunately, they are out of business now. Try that with your bank: oh, yea, I didn't have the actual CASH in the checking account, but I have a years worth of paychecks coming during the coming year. I just credited them to my account now...
Does anyone really care anymore? by aceattorney	Sep 20th, 2007 02:11:26 AM
Because I sure as heck don't. Heroes FTW.
How about the Iron Chef spinoff PAPRIKA? by Mullah Omar	Sep 20th, 2007 02:19:54 AM
All Hungarian food, all the time!
please greenlight the spinoff by Demosthenes2	Sep 20th, 2007 03:07:02 AM
BSG could potentially launch a new universe as big as all the Star Trek series; it certainly has just as much character and as many fresh ideas. In addition to Caprica, I'd also be curious to see a spinoff of how the humans acclimate to Earth, in whatever state it is when they finally reach it.
Pretty sad if that's what they intend by charon	Sep 20th, 2007 03:44:09 AM
I got into this series a bit late in the game. I've enjoyed it as it has progressed, but not overly so. Science Fiction as a genre can go pretty much anywhere it damn well pleases, and with the weekly format the Sci-Fi Channel dedicated to this quality series I enjoyed watching it unfold, even with the slightly stilted or forced weekly 'topical dramas' that they worked in. But you know what? It's this series that put the Sci-Fi Channel on the map, and of course they're going to milk it, like Fox milked "The Simpsons" almost 2 decades ago. Thing is, that was like, 20 fucking YEARS ago. Sci-Fi's reliance on this split-season tactic was appalling even last season when they used it. Loss of weekly viewership proved it. Do it again, it's alienating an already pissed-off fan base. The posts above are pretty indicative of that. Split the final season and fans may just have to bail and go back to better-written sci-fi in the form of books, magazines or online short stories. At least there's a wealth of Battlestar Galactica characters we can now imagine dropped into new stories taken on in a wholly undiluted form known as imagination.
So in Australia we'll get the episodes around... by Hardboiled Wonderland	Sep 20th, 2007 04:15:24 AM
...oh, 2012. Fuck you SciFi. Leave the morons for a better network, Ron.
Pretty sad on Sci-Fi's part by mrfan	Sep 20th, 2007 05:13:42 AM
Just real sad.
I'll keep watching no matter what. by The Outlander	Sep 20th, 2007 05:31:53 AM
And a Caprica TV movie/pilot sounds good to me. Bring it on.
already am freaking out... by Judge Briggs	Sep 20th, 2007 05:36:19 AM
fucking Sci-Fi channel. always fucking up.
fans will freak out? by palewook	Sep 20th, 2007 06:14:24 AM
nah after the "we're all cyclons" episode, nothing is going to freak anyone out. just think of something implausible, and that is how the 10th episode will end. then in the 11th episode it wont matter...
As has been said... by KillDozer	Sep 20th, 2007 06:40:08 AM
Fuck Sci Fi Fuck their cliffhanger 10th episode and Fuck 2009 This show is dead to me. Bring on LOST
Also... by KillDozer	Sep 20th, 2007 06:40:49 AM
Fuck the formatting codes that don't fucking work when posting here
Sci-Fi = Enron by teethgnasher	Sep 20th, 2007 06:57:17 AM
This will be the best season that was never watched. I may watch it, but I really doubt it. Hell, I've already lost interest. I would rather watch some old show on DVD than watch a current running show. Sci-Fi just presents shit shows anyway. Homeade horror crap. When did Sci-Fi turn into a horror channel? How about reruns of classic sci-fi shows like Six Million Dollar Man, classic BSG, Star Trek, Xena, Hercules, the Flash, Batman, ect.
teeth by palewook	Sep 20th, 2007 07:30:59 AM
since bonnie took over. see the death of farscape and everything that came after it. bonnie didnt even want to pick up bsg, it was only b/c the brits paid for most of season 1 that skiffy got involved. for fear of losing out on the series entirely.
Fuck you Sci Fi by mayorofsimpleton	Sep 20th, 2007 07:32:03 AM
I've got a great idea for a channel! Let's end the only critically and fan loved show, never show it, spread it out, not greenlight its prequel etc...and instead make plenty of movies about killer spiders and crap like Flash Gordon. What a PIECE OF SHIT CHANNEL. BSG should've been on NBC. How can the people in charge be so stupid?
what i don't understand is... by prbt	Sep 20th, 2007 08:03:38 AM
They're making all 20 eps in one go, yeah? So how, in the intervening 10 months, are Sci-Fi going to stop them from leaking?? Once they leak, anyone who cares will watch them straight away, then the 'official' viewing figures in 2009 will be close to zero. Doesn't make sense.
Dear SciFi Executives, by cheeseofcheese	Sep 20th, 2007 08:04:39 AM
From even skimming some of the comments here, do you think you are doing the right thing with this property? There is only so far you as an alleged TV network can do to a show's fanbase without completely alienating them. In all sincerity, do consider what has been said above, because it's looks as though your potential 'reach' is going to be severely reduced if you do decide to split the final series of Battlestar in the way that has been proposed. You viewing audience has to buy in to your ability to provide content people actually wish to consume, when being treated with a modicum of respect. What you propose seems entirely at odds with that premise.
Battlestar Galactica sucks ass by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 20th, 2007 08:13:46 AM
Really, it does. And if you like it, chances are you probably suck ass, too.
Boycott SciFi - if anyone still really watches it by Bluereader	Sep 20th, 2007 08:20:17 AM
Ah, Jeff Zucker- that pitiful cretin strikes again. Most networks when they have a show that's popular renew it, but not good old Jeff. He figures he'll ring the gold goose for all she's worth and laugh all the way to the bank. Well you know what? I say we boycott it. I am.
direct to dvd... by theonecalledshoe	Sep 20th, 2007 08:21:59 AM
just like babylon 5. BG is good but c'mon how much stuff was used from the original (names for one thing, characters for another.) My gripe will always be this talk of original scifi production. Nothing be original, but damn, respect a copyright.
Sci Fi's been on my shitlist since they axed DRESDEN... by SpyGuy	Sep 20th, 2007 08:29:12 AM
...and replaced it with that appallingly horrible, so-called FLASH GORDON series. Now, I only watch for BSG and DOCTOR WHO and unless CAPRICA gets picked up, eventually it will be just for DOCTOR WHO. Of course, BBC America also airs DOCTOR WHO and is only a season behind, so if Sci Fi doesn't air Series Four in 2008, so be it...Jedi.
please Universal accountant and infuriate fan base. Od by CrichtonAstronut	Sep 20th, 2007 08:38:10 AM
Odd how often those two coincide. You'd think that making the people whon pay your bills happy would be a good idea, accounting wise. But then I'm not a professional cororate accountant so I'm naive and untrained enough to think sanity is a good idea. It's as if the NBC Universal accountants see the viewers who pay their network as the enemy.
WHERE IS THE SEASON 3 DVD by OGREISHERE	Sep 20th, 2007 08:41:58 AM
Jesus Christ NBC just give us the daman DVD already!!!
I don't understand why they'd do this by Richard Cranium	Sep 20th, 2007 08:44:06 AM
They can't see the forest for the trees here. Sure, they'll have and extra year of programming or whatever, and I won't lie to you I'll watch it whenever it comes back on, but they're taking all the momentum away from it by stretching it out like this. I can't see any scenario where they don't lose at least 30 percent of their audience for the last 10 eps because they either just plain forget about it or get so annoyed with it that they just stop watching.
Splitting the season in two by Sammy Jankis	Sep 20th, 2007 08:49:25 AM
Splitting the season in two will allow Universal to charge $35 each for two box sets instead of the $45 to $55 for one season as they are currently charging. I believe for awhile after Season 2 was first released you would have had to pay upward of $80 for the complete season. I am so F'ing tired of Science Fiction franchises charging double the going rate for a season on DVD compared to other shows. A season of Dr. Who is currently $70 on Amazon. I know they have higher production costs, but they would sell more sets if they simply priced them at a reasonable point instead of saying, "ah, the fanboys and geeks will buy this no matter what we charge so screw 'em!".
It seems to be a nasty pattern with the SciFi channel by CrichtonAstronut	Sep 20th, 2007 08:54:10 AM
that they finance a really good series, build it up and put get it in the public eye and just when it starts getting rave reviews cancel it. This is exactly what they did with Farscape. They even split the season, the last two seasons actually. But season three was the really bad split. And just like BSG they were starting to get good reviews. Articles in TV Guide and Entertainment Weekly. And then Cancelled. I knew when EW started professing their love for BSG, when reviewers started calling it the best show on television that its days were numbered. Isn't that sad by the way. When you know a series will be cancelled because it is good. It's like the whole reason for this network has become: to gather the best Science Fiction shows together and eliminate them. I see her people gathering film reels together on an open field and linng up a firing squad to kill them all, like the human resistace on New Caprica.
A million deaths are not enough for SciFi... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 20th, 2007 09:06:11 AM
...if they go through with this split season 2008/2009 bullshit. I can't believe they have the audacity to entertain some positive notion towards CAPRICA while they treat their A-#1 flagship show so poorly.
Bonnie Hammer loves BitTorrent????? by snowpuff	Sep 20th, 2007 09:14:49 AM
They think they can wait a year without the final episodes leaking? Not smart.
DO NOT DO THIS, SciFi!! by performingmonkey	Sep 20th, 2007 09:19:38 AM
If you split Galactica's 4th season in two it PROVES that you don't care about television or your viewers. If you do this it will be the beginning of the end for SciFi.
inablility to put on anything good by Diagnostic	Sep 20th, 2007 09:21:08 AM
They should let the ECW write/come up with the next new series. Whoa... "Who wants to write/produce the Sci-Fi series?" You read it here first, its my idea.
Why the freak out? by Christopher3	Sep 20th, 2007 09:41:44 AM
The 2009 layover a financial decision - intended to grab however many new viewers they can, sell DVDs to get them caught up on the show's mythology, and convince advertisers that as many or more eyeballs will still be there for the show when the last 10 episodes make it to air. And yeah, the bean counters can split the revenues from this show over two years, just in case Sci Fi's 2009 fiscal year otherwise doesn't look so hot. The downside? None. Hardcore fans like us will bitch about the show and the network heads on AICN talkbacks, but we'll still watch the show and buy the DVDs. "Lost" is pursuing the same strategy.
Xiphos by Red43jes	Sep 20th, 2007 09:42:06 AM
LOL- Went to Ft.Benning for Basic...our Drill Sergent was ALWAYS saying that and I've said it since. -Red43jes
What does SciFi gain from this? by Domi'sInnerChild	Sep 20th, 2007 09:44:11 AM
Isn't the point, ratings? I'm no TV executive or accountanty, but isn't 8 episodes is more a mini-series than an actual show? How exactly do they sell that to advertisers especially with the fan base getting pissed off ("we kicked ass during sweeps, how many episodes we got left? Two? Uh, I guess that's plenty, charge double!")? Sure, you break up the DVD box sets, but they already did that last time with just a gap rather than having to break the season up over two years. I just don't get the Sopranos model here. You subscribe to HBO, Sci-fi is advertising based so it theoretically needs as many new episodes as possible to generate higher ratings when competing networks are likewise showing first run programming.
diagnostic by palewook	Sep 20th, 2007 09:44:43 AM
you've probably spawned the scifi schedule for 2009. skiffy presents "who wants to write a sci-fi series" followed by "who wants to make a crappy d horror movie?". followed the next night by, "who wants to remake a n old series into a new series." and "who wants to watch a crappy d horror movie." etc
caprica by palewook	Sep 20th, 2007 09:46:34 AM
lets face facts, in bonnie's mind they could do this cheaper than BSG. it would look like Smallville meets BSG.. err didnt she learn anything from Flush Boredom?
prbt by PVIII	Sep 20th, 2007 09:47:48 AM
if you're going to film it, at least let the execs wait until 2010 to see the footage. FUCK YOU SCI FI. Everyone should write ms. Bonnie Hammer some intelligent fanboy hatemail like I did: excerpt: Dear Ms. Hammer, If what I hear about breaking up the final season of BSG into two parts (the finale airing in 2009!?!) is true, I will have a hard time watching the Sci Fi channel again. Your recent decisions to greenlight the Power Rangers-like 'Flash Gordon' (which I'm sure will be cancelled in the next year), 'Painkiller Jane,' 'ECW' and failure to pick up the well-reviewed 'Lost Room' backdoor pilot have disheartened me to the point where I can no longer claim to be a Sci Fi Channel fan. If this decision about BSG is true, I will only use iTunes to watch my Sci Fi channel shows (I am a Nielson box volunteer). etc. etc. Peace out Sci Fi!
Hey Sci-Fi - if you plan on splitting the season in 2` by Itchy	Sep 20th, 2007 09:49:56 AM
please let me know ASAP so I can not watch any of it, you stupid douche-twats.
No iTunes BSG for Oz :-( by Hardboiled Wonderland	Sep 20th, 2007 10:04:59 AM
In Australia (and anywhere outside the USA), we can't even download BSG on iTunes. So it's torrents ftw. Dear gods I hope season 3 is leaked. I'll be downloading every episode and telling SciFi to shove it where the sun don't shine. Yeah, Lost is going with the split season format -- but it's pissing off a lot of overseas fans who have to avoid the internet for a year so they don't see spoilers. It's harsh, fucking harsh, to only see 10 episodes then have to wait a year. Ah well, I may as well make my prediction here: when the RTF find Earth, Baltar discovers EVERYONE is a cylon... except him, he's the last surviving human. That's how it'll end. Too bad I'll have to wait until 20-frakking-12 to see that. Frak you SciFi. Unless the cartoon Eick and Moore beat the crap out of Bonnie in their little end-of-credits thing.
SCI FI could be a great network... by Frank Black	Sep 20th, 2007 10:07:17 AM
If they could find someone who knew what to do with the occasional great show they get!
P.S... by Christopher3	Sep 20th, 2007 10:13:24 AM
Sci-Fi rarely schedules its "event" programming against competing first-run network programming. They typically get their best ratings from their December miniseries, when the networks are asleep. To me, scheduling the remaining season of BSG as effectively two miniseries makes more sense than what they did with the third season, which was BSG's first "conventional" fall-spring network season, and which, IMO, suffered from too many unnecessary and unsatisfying stand-alone episodes. I'd rather Moore and Co. end the series with some quality storytelling rather than writing filler to satisfy a standard 20-show-per-season commitment.
Since when is "Razor" part of season 4? by googamooga	Sep 20th, 2007 10:14:03 AM
I thought it was a stand alone movie, and then season 4 followed. Instead, now we get cheated out of 2 more regular episodes? This is mother fracking BS.
Just don't do it, SciFi by Kap'n Kek	Sep 20th, 2007 10:24:54 AM
Look, I hate to be a bitch about this, but as a fairly eager fan who has gotten several others into this show who would not have otherwise, it'll be embarrassing. You guys are not going to pick up any more viewers, and will certainly drop some, such as myself. Love the show, but I'm already kinda disconnected from it with the hiatus we've got. Ten episodes and another year wait will be the nail in the coffin for me and many casual viewers like me. End the damn show on a high note, and find some other programming quick-like. If you wanted BSG in 2009, you should have extended the series to another season.
Sci Fi knows what its doing.. by Ironmuskrat	Sep 20th, 2007 10:34:26 AM
The powers that be at Sci Fi know 90% of the original programming it puts out is steaming shit. They know on average they produce a popular, quality program about once every five years or so. I guess it natural for them to try and drag BSG out as long as they can hoping they can find another nugget of gold in that huge pile of crap(aka Sci fi channel).
BSG is made in China and sold at local Wal-Mart by teethgnasher	Sep 20th, 2007 10:44:26 AM
'Nuff said.
Who needs BSG? We got Flash Gordon... by Billyeveryteen	Sep 20th, 2007 10:55:14 AM
With Hawkmen! They like hawks, you see... They run around shirtless... and "glide" with their capes... Good Lord, Sci-Fi channel has to die.
I will NEVER watch BSG after that horrible season 3 ending! by StupidAndUgly	Sep 20th, 2007 11:06:57 AM
It died then for me.
Patience by vanchimera	Sep 20th, 2007 11:34:16 AM
...seems to be a lost art amongst the general public.
Patience my ass, vanchimera by googamooga	Sep 20th, 2007 11:52:56 AM
Patience is waiting through the summer to start watching new episodes of your favorite show in September after it went off the air in May/June. Waiting a FUCKING YEAR for 8 episodes is torture. Period.
Fuck Patience by teethgnasher	Sep 20th, 2007 11:54:03 AM
Patience is over-rated.
Moore's gotta eat by Domi'sInnerChild	Sep 20th, 2007 12:01:33 PM
So is the cast and crew being paid for one season or two?
Season 4 has 22 episodes, not 20 by Razorback	Sep 20th, 2007 12:19:18 PM
If you are counting Razor.
I agree with googamooga. by teethgnasher	Sep 20th, 2007 12:21:33 PM
Waiting that long for 8 episodes is crazy. There is no point in getting excited about a mere 8-10 episodes. Life is too short (as is BSG seasons). The excitement of this show is over. There are too many other things to do than watch a tv show that has storylines dragged out for years. I say patiently wait for a DVD collection, then enjoy. Let's don't reward sponsors for a show that is dragged out.
I almost quit watching during Season 3... by Hugh G Rekshun	Sep 20th, 2007 12:32:57 PM
...because the show was going into the dumper. If they pull that year-long split-season bullshit, they can count me out for sure. Buncha fuck-sticks!
Season Four by Cobbio	Sep 20th, 2007 12:48:38 PM
I hope SciFi airs all 22 BSG episodes, including "Razor," in 2008. Not that my opinion means anything, but I want a full season of action and build up. I really don't want to wait another year for BSG's conclusion. Especially with the mostly unwatchable shows SciFi is airing now. As for "Caprica," I say hell yes! I'd love to see a lighter but inevitably darkening series set in the BSG universe. The Cylon Rebellion, or watever its called, would be an amazing drama to introduce. Characters would obviously need interesting arcs and development as the story gets told, but there's a lot there for writers to sink their teeth into. I don't expect the series to happen, but I'll be sitting there in my living room with food and beverages and bells on to see the pilot if it airs. Hope it does.
See, I'm not like the Anti Star Trek posters. by C.K. Lamoo	Sep 20th, 2007 01:03:02 PM
I don't like Battlestar Galactica but I have no objection to other people watching who do like it. I don't want Galactica banished from the air or retired for ten years. As long as I don't have to watch it, what do I care?
Problem is, they're shooting a regular season by performingmonkey	Sep 20th, 2007 01:48:59 PM
They're shooting a regular 20-episode season. If they were actually PLANNING two 10-episode seasons, shot over 2 years, then this would be a COMPLETELY different story. We would be getting 10 balls-to-the-frakking-wall burn-your-face-off episodes with no fillers and everyone would love it. However, instead we will get 10 episodes with around 5 that don't even advance the story. Wow, a great 'season'... I hope SciFi closes down if they go ahead with this.
Feldercarp! by MachThree	Sep 20th, 2007 01:56:05 PM
So, after we give them high viewership for the first few eps of 2008, only then will they tell us if we should stop watching cause the thing won't be done 'til 2009. Frak Sci-Fi!
Seriously, Sci Fi Can suck my unwashed dong... by turketron	Sep 20th, 2007 02:15:56 PM
After jogging 8 miles with my girlfriend and having 5 rounds of anal sex that she "didn't prepare for". That network sucks.
It will end in Mid-2009... by KazamaSmokers	Sep 20th, 2007 02:24:28 PM
...because they will hold the last few episodes for the May sweeps.
Listen to me Sci-Fi channel... by Heckles	Sep 20th, 2007 02:25:16 PM
If you split up the last season, so help me I will never watch your station again. Never. Sure, what's one fanboy gonna matter? Plenty. First, I will walk around the country like Bruce Banner in the old Hulk show (which you don't show anymore, assholes) and find Nielson houses and make sure they give you crap ratings. Like really bad. I will convince them to print out your logo and wipe a shit stain on it and send it to Nielson headquarters. Second, and this will be a little tricky, I will win the lottery and build a giant metal fist with a middle finger sticking up and fire it into space and fingerbang your satellite into the sun. In all likelihood I'll just Netflix the last season of BSG and bitch and complain endlessly. I know you still get your green in the end, doesn't matter though. Have fun with Extremely Crappy Wrestling and your gaylord made-for-TV movies.
can't wait til Moore moves on by zooch	Sep 20th, 2007 03:42:13 PM
to bigger and better things. Perhaps to a major network that knows how to utilize his talents. Can't wait to see what he does next.
Gotta keep thar bar low so than get over it. by bswise	Sep 20th, 2007 04:21:46 PM
You feeling any love today, SciFi? I resisted BSG for a long time, and really just started liking it a few weeks ago, and maybe I’ll even get back to it in a couple of years, but there is no way that am I going to start following the arc of season 4 if they stretch it out that long. Sure, this approach makes sense to Suit 1 and Suit 2, but, c’mon, this is a big “frak you” to the audience. And, yes, they did do the same frelling thing to Farscape, cut it’s budget, split it up, and moved it here and there, all at the height of its popularity. More proof of my longstanding theory that the sole purpose of a TV executive such as Bonnie Hammer is to ensure than nothing TOO GOOD (as in, TOO EXPENSIVE) stays on the air for very long or even gets there in the first place. No, to keep the system humming, the suits need cheap and they need mediocre, and lots of it. Anything above the lowest common denominator will raise the bar higher than they are willing to go. For example, Caprica sounds like another earthbound, shot-in-the-woods, everyone-looks-like-a-Canadian cheap-fest. Oh well, at least we’ll supposedly be getting a few new Farscape “Webisodes.” Frelling crumbs as those are, I welcome the day (coming soon) when a quality series can be produced far away from those meddlesome networks. On that note, I’m looking forward to Zwick and Hersovitz’s “Quarterlife.”
Ronald Moore must give good head... by MisterE	Sep 20th, 2007 04:25:08 PM
R. Moore must be sucking someone off for anyone to care about this crappy spinoff series.
Got to keep the bar low so they can get over it... by bswise	Sep 20th, 2007 04:27:05 PM
Uh, that's what I meant to type instead of "Gotta keep thar bar low so than get over it". Sheesh, I need a drink.
Per TV Guide, BSG season 3 DVD: SPRING 2008?!? by Pennsy	Sep 20th, 2007 05:31:08 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2kt83x
season 3 by rhaps0dy	Sep 20th, 2007 05:56:17 PM
Season 3 had a solid ending if you ask me, one of the strongest endings out of the big shows this year, lost probably having the best!
Wait, Razor is PART of season 4?! SHIT!! by Drath	Sep 20th, 2007 07:25:05 PM
Fuckers couldn't even film an extra 2 hours for us? Bitches! Now Stargate is finished, Stargate Atlantis is just eh, and Flush Gordon has bombed, they'd better get something going soon or they're gonna lose a lot of viewers with the end of BSG.
LOL by SG7	Sep 20th, 2007 07:30:26 PM
When BSG is done there's nothing left to watch that they got, other than MAYBE SG:A, but even then that's just one hour a week. Bonnie Hammer is a fuacking 'tard. I think Ron Moore and company should just run SciFi for Universal and be done with it. He could do his "Pern" series that was shelved at the last minute. In my fanboy fantasy universe Ron Moore, Joss and JMS run SciFi.
2009 Ain't Cool by A-COD	Sep 20th, 2007 07:56:25 PM
2009? I enjoy the show. BSG had all the attention in the world heading into season 3 and they still couldn't get viewers. It's a shame but it's over, run the episodes and move on. It's hard to take SciFi seriously after Flash Gordon.
I just want to see Ensen Rowe by Phategod2	Sep 20th, 2007 08:43:54 PM
Exxxtra Nekkid
Ghost of Nixon... by MisterE	Sep 20th, 2007 09:09:26 PM
Ghost of Nixon, that was the first Flash Gordon episode that I tuned into since watching most of the first episode, and it was pretty damb terrible. I did buy and (re)watch the "Flash Gordon, Saviour of the Universe Edition" DVD a few weeks ago, and have to say that I love that film.
Flash Gordon by The Outlander	Sep 20th, 2007 09:20:52 PM
I feel sad for the actors that are on that show. Most of them deserve better, particularly the actress that plays Dale Arden.
Bonnie Hammer strikers again by cooper2000	Sep 20th, 2007 09:31:08 PM
I remember after they pulled the rug out from Farscape I said I would never watch Sci Fi again and I should have stuck with that. The people who make the decisions for this network suck. First they put like Flash Gordon which is the shitties thow ever, they keep cranking out those Sci Fi movies and now they want to hold Galacticas 2nd part of the season back until 2009????!!!!??? What so they can alienate the fans and not have them come back. We know how fans can be. What idiots.
I don't mind the final 10 episodes in 2009 so long as.. by J-Dizzle	Sep 20th, 2007 11:10:56 PM
we get Caprica episodes while we wait.
Sci-Fi always shoot themselves in the nuts... by DallasGoodbar	Sep 20th, 2007 11:23:16 PM
Bonnie Hammer is no Brandon Tartikoff. At least he greenlit cool ass projects that were watchable. I only watch the channel for Doctor Who. Want to boycott the channel? Start by not watching NBC during premieres next week. You can set your DVRs to record but the ratings will drop dramatically if you don't tune in. Let's show them we won't watch just anything they put on the box
Proof that Sci-fi knows their movies are shit... by DallasGoodbar	Sep 20th, 2007 11:36:49 PM
when you press the info button and get a description of the movies but no quality ratings -no stars. WTF!! If you're an optimum user you know what I mean. It's like they're ashamed of their original programming!
Proof that Sci-fi knows their movies are shit... by DallasGoodbar	Sep 20th, 2007 11:37:40 PM
when you press the info button and get a description of the movies but no quality ratings -no stars. WTF!! If you're an optimum user you know what I mean. It's like they're ashamed of their original programming!
Sorry for the double post by DallasGoodbar	Sep 21st, 2007 12:37:05 AM
Ensen Rowe would have been great in 'Global Frequency' if it had been greenlit.
We are an economic consumer force by geodesigns	Sep 21st, 2007 12:52:14 AM
There should be industry standards against what the SCIFI programming channel execs just did to Battlestar Galactica, Flash Gordon, and all our favorite cancelled shows. It’s obvious they can currently get away with canceling favorite shows, stretching out air dates like BSG final season and air half in 2008 and the remaining half in 2009. They can get away with ruining a respectable and iconic property such as Flash Gordon. The overpaid, incompetent SCIFI Channel bean counters and programming execs just care about money, and the décor of their plush studio offices. They care about their own parking space, if their office has a window and the trappings of the senior executive lifestyle. THEY ARE NOT GENRE FANS. Don’t think for one minute they care about what your favorite shows mean to you. Money talks, and when it comes to TV programming, viewer choice perceived by Nielsen ratings and advertising sponsor money. That’s what the SCIFI Channel’s bosses look at. This is old school. This system is analog, pre-digital, pre-internet age. Fan-driven sites like AICN, IESB, LatinoReview, Superherohype, IGN, Rotten Tomatoes, Dark Horizons (and many more such as theses), have taken the initiative to have an online presence to show you upcoming projects and have a forum to post your opinion. I think this is a step in the right direction. The people who run these sites are genre fans just like you and me. They get as exited in a project as you do, and as disillusioned as you become when it does not meet our fan-driven personal expectations. And believe me, industry professionals take notice. Hell, they’re reading our postings right now. Here’s where we come in. I propose we create an internet-networked, worldwide online entity called (for example) the Viewership Consumer Coalition (VCC), with the mission of having a pro-active organized voice to speak to movie, TV, videogame studios and publishers. Any project they want to put in the production pipeline to end up in theatres, air on TV, release as a game, DVD or other viewing media, the VCC can be an entity that has YOUR say in it. The VCC is us. Anyone could sign up on the website of this proposed entity and cast your vote. The entertainment industry needs a reality check for the 21st century. The Nielsen Ratings is simply old school and is no longer reflective of our perceptions. You all know that’s true. Anyone download a show? How would Nielsen know if you liked that episode? The VCC can not only be your voice and tell them not only if you and millions of others liked it or not, but make them listen to you if they really want a hit on their hands by having a VCC liaison or representative involved in the production. “The VCC was actively involved in the making of this movie”. The VCC can be a poll-driven and opinion-driven organization that can be comprised by consumers just like you and me, who can interact with entertainment industry producers and sponsors through a VCC liaison. We can tell producers early on what we think about a project in development, and we can tell the money people early on if we as consumers have confidence in the project or if will bomb. We can tell the money people that if producers don’t go with your VCC recommendations, we won’t go shell out money to see this in theatres, we won’t buy the DVD, or the game. This can be a way that we can send a message to both producers and financers of what we as educated and passionate genre consumers think. This way everybody wins. I’m sure there are entertainment producers who don’t set out to produce a bad TV show or a bad movie. I’m sure that there are TV sponsors that were convinced to plunk down their money sponsor a TV show thinking it will be a hit. I’m sure there are some people within both those entities who put their sincere energies into the project and feel disappointed in themselves if we absolutely hate what they produced. An organized genre-centric, educated consumer economic force such as the VCC can offer our opinions early on. We can tell them early on if this is watchable or not. We can tell them early on if we’ll buy the game, buy the DVD, buy the movie tickets. We can tell them early on if their production is buzz-worthy are an absolute sleeper. Some of the current SCIFI Channel’s programming execs will absolutely hate the notion of a VCC because we’ll actually take some of their power away from them. But it’s to their best interest. Mass boycotts, negative publicity campaigns, low Nielsen ratings, petition for a specific industry professional’s resignation and low public opinion of a project can all be avoided if they invite one of your VCC representatives to observe a project in development, take pictures and video samples of the production, share with the registered online members, and come back to them with your opinions by sending them a VCC Assessment Report, along with your recommendations. This way, we can actually contribute to having a high ratio of well-received productions in a given year. When you go to the store and buy a DVD with a label “Certified WAY COOL by the VCC” in its DVD box package, you as a consumer had your part in ensuring this production was the best it possibly could be. Think of it. WE ARE AN ECONOMIC FORCE. If anyone else can think of a better way to have the power to avoid what happened to high quality shows like BSG, Farscape, and other productions that were well-intended but failed in the end, please come up with something. I’m nobody important. I leave it in your hands. The old school production business model is just not working anymore. Just remember, power swings both ways. So far, they’ve shown their muscle. Now let’s show ours. Harry, Quint, Moriarty and AICN crew, thanks so much for what you do. You have my respect.
re. We are an economic consumer force by animebigboy	Sep 21st, 2007 03:39:40 AM
ok where do i sign up. i couldn't agree with you more the problem is that they are playing by outdated rating system that has been proven incorrect well before downloads and itunes etc. i don't watch battlestar on TV and although i am a hardened fan my viewership doesn't count. If the internet is opening a bottom up appraoch to distribution lets get serious. if done properly this may start to place the creative aspect of production higher in the food chain instead of the bean counters. if Sci Fi execs had the tools to truly figure out which shows are were thier strongest then they would know how position them better. better shows creates trust and trust creates a die hard channel fan base that will consider sc fi logo as a stamp of approval. it seems like a win win win situation. good creatives have the back up to make good shows, viewer get good shows and bean counters would get more money because they have good product.
an might i add... by animebigboy	Sep 21st, 2007 03:49:54 AM
its clear that they don't know how to deal with this fan base. they are attempting this whole online synchronisity with BSG and heroes but the whole thing seems to be ringing a bit false and heavy handed. they are trying to answer this phantom popularity from the internet but what seems to be eluding them is that they are doing it so poorly that they are pushing against their good fortune. to put it simply its time for them to listen to the internet instead of trying to dictate to it.
Xiphos by Red43jes	Sep 21st, 2007 05:53:31 AM
I try to be okay-lol. I moved on to the Air Force. Security Forces. You?
Will they think they are cute when they say "FRAK" by jimbojones123	Sep 21st, 2007 07:37:54 AM
How 3rd grade. Really.
I concucr with the rest... by moondoggy2u	Sep 21st, 2007 07:48:45 AM
Red43jes is screaming army. ex-screaming eagle over here.
damn thing posted before I was through by moondoggy2u	Sep 21st, 2007 07:55:01 AM
I meant to say that I was in Air Assault while at Campbell (my own sad highlight) and was mainly in field artillery in Bragg.
Spud's Reply to Sci-Fi Channel - Pt 1 by spud mcspud	Sep 21st, 2007 09:32:31 AM
Fuck
Spud's Reply to Sci-Fi Channel - Pt 2 by spud mcspud	Sep 21st, 2007 09:32:49 AM
You
Spud's Reply to Sci-Fi Channel - Complete (with extras) by spud mcspud	Sep 21st, 2007 09:36:01 AM
Fuck You. Extras: Up your stupid, stupid asses. And like we need a fucking soap opera based on how the Cylons were created. Gaaaah. It'll be like the fucking boring bit at Joe Morton's home in T2, only for several fucking seasons. Exposition, exposition, exposition. And no fucking action. Sounds like B5: LOST TALES to me. Ron Moore: Go to a decent network that takes chances, find some real money, and get GLOBAL FREQUENCY going again. The format is piss easy, you'll be great at giving it some good stories and memorable twists, and both Michelle Forbes and Mark Burnett need the work. Miranda Zero was an even better role for Michelle than Admiral Cain. Trust me, TBers.
Dallas Goodbar by spud mcspud	Sep 21st, 2007 09:38:51 AM
GLOBAL FREQUENCY is the single biggest assraping a TV network has given to us sci-fi fans in years. My ass still hurts from how good that fucking pilot was, and watching it while all the time knowing that it would never be made. Dumbest fucking decision ever. It would've been bigger than the X-Files. WB sucks donkey bollocks.
What would be really cool is if... by Domi'sInnerChild	Sep 21st, 2007 03:10:53 PM
they strung it out to a "supersized" hour and 15 minute episode a year. That would really build up the drama and tension. Imagine the box set sales.
Sci-Fi Channel = Nerd Central by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 21st, 2007 08:12:15 PM
I'm looking at you, nerds.
yada yada yada but will "Caprica" be about TEEN by kabong	Sep 21st, 2007 10:57:48 PM
Cylons
BSG on FX channel makes sense. by teethgnasher	Sep 22nd, 2007 08:46:01 AM
Make it so!
Re: spud mcspud by Cobbio	Sep 22nd, 2007 09:26:25 AM
I never saw the pilot for "Global Frequency," but after reading your post I went to www.globalfrequency.org and checked it out. Holy shit... the description reduces the X-Files to pure stupidity in comparison. Michelle Forbes was Miranda Zero? Why the hell didn't I hear more about this? Grrr.
BSG on FX would be a smart move by NoHubris	Sep 22nd, 2007 11:57:55 AM
Ryan Murphy, Nip & Tuck producer, has been allowed to keep his "unique, singular voice" in producing the show.
More RE: BSG on FX by NoHubris	Sep 22nd, 2007 12:07:50 PM
Here's a link to an article on TV.com that talks about Murphy's relationship with the network. It looks like FX supports his vision and doesn't get overly involved in what Murphy is trying to do http://tinyurl.com/326lff Please note that the article might be a bit slow in loading.
Thank gods I fixed my time machine by Drak_Tanner	Sep 22nd, 2007 06:11:31 PM
See, I don't have to worry about effing network scheduling and waiting week after week and month after month for the next episode. See: Time machine + Netflix = Watching WHOLE SEASONS of goodness at my leisure Holy shiznit, guys, you are not going to freaking believe the last five eps of LOST Season 4. Holy fat-laden Christ on a pancake.
Cobbio by spud mcspud	Sep 23rd, 2007 03:24:19 PM
You know why you never heard more about GLOBAL FREQUENCY? Because WB are linking the average IQ of one of their viewers to that of a vegetable, and GLOBAL FREQUENCY was just too damn smart. The pilot was awesome. If you really want to weep for the hit that never will be, go read the two graphic novels, GLOBAL FREQUENCY: PLANET ABLAZE (Vol 1) and GLOBAL FREQUENCY: DETONATION RADIO (Vol 2). The 12 best sci-fi series episodes we will NEVER get to see. And yes, Michelle Forbes as Miranda Zero kicked every kind of ass. Fucking perfection.

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