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nearly by SUPERJIM	Sep 19th, 2007 04:52:28 PM
Almost first. The only reason I clicked was 'cos I am a dick. This show is serious shit eh? We even heard about it over in the UK. The BBC was reporting that they had to shoot in some random state (New Mexico maybe? Is that even a state?) because of lax child labour laws. Is there hell on over it in the U.S too? Sounds mad, and pretty cool for the kids actually.
Kid Nation - sponsored by Kathy Lee Gifford and Nike by Err	Sep 19th, 2007 04:55:02 PM
Sweatshop Nation 4 ever!
Perhaps I should read the article before posting by SUPERJIM	Sep 19th, 2007 04:59:46 PM
In future. Helps me not ask questions that are already answered. I bet the parents of these kids are total fame seekers. Without a doubt.
I'd prefer by blindambition238	Sep 19th, 2007 04:59:51 PM
Babies On Cinderblocks and Old People in Volcanoes.
Countdown until some AICN contributor by gboybama	Sep 19th, 2007 05:10:09 PM
makes a comment about how hot one of the chicks on this show will be when they hit eighteen... Wait for it!!!!
Kiddy Porn? by PornKing	Sep 19th, 2007 05:11:01 PM
It's my duty to pose the question: 40 pubescent kids, no adult supervision, a bunch of cameras...can we call it--Pedo-Vision?
What the hell is this? by SkidMarkedUndies	Sep 19th, 2007 05:15:56 PM
You got to be kidding me.
When I heard a commercial for this on the radio, by waylayer	Sep 19th, 2007 05:49:23 PM
I honestly thought it was a "wacky" morning zoo radio parody trying hard for a laugh. When I realized it was real, I wanted to smash my car into the nearest tree.
i thought it was ok up until they stole Piggy's glasses by newc0253	Sep 19th, 2007 06:00:43 PM
oh wait, that was from Lord of the Flies.
Woah by tme2nsb	Sep 19th, 2007 06:13:52 PM
I really want to check this out - this really sounds like it could be groundbreaking television, and hopefully pave the way to break some taboos too - but hell no would I let my daughters do this shit. CAN'T WAIT
Bellevue by BoggyCreekBeast	Sep 19th, 2007 06:14:13 PM
Learning one of the kids is from Bellevue and mom is a lawyer convinces me not to watch. If I wanna see snotty Bellevue kids I'll go to Bellevue Square Mall! I'll take old Kelsey and that woman from Everybody Loves Raymond over this.
Great Idea!!! by DJSpoonfed	Sep 19th, 2007 06:24:12 PM
I would have LOVED it if my parents had let me do something like this as a kid, that'd be one helluvan experience. I think from watching this we're going to learn that there are a lot of kids out there that have more common sense than most adults.
so basically... by keyserSOZE	Sep 19th, 2007 06:36:28 PM
you've got a group of people in the desert with no clue how to take care of and govern themselves. so this is just CBS giving us a veiled political commentary/satire on the plan to create a working government in Iraq, right? oh god, i slay me...
I shamefully admit that I watched it... by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:08:58 PM
Yikes. Actually, the kids seemed to be doing just fine figuring out how to do things together, and then they decided to pit people against each other for dramatic tension or what have you. God forbid it get boring if they decided to get along.
I also think Sophia is a 30-year old actress. by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:12:04 PM
Her voice is deeper than mine is.
And someone is going to get killed with a gold star. by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:13:16 PM
Out of jealousy or something, one of the kids will bash someone's skull in it while they're asleep.
Or maybe they'll turn on Johnathan. by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:13:56 PM
Or whoever the "adult" is. Like that Star Trek episode.
Sucks to your asmar by Maxer	Sep 19th, 2007 08:14:41 PM
I'm just waiting for them to drop a rock onto the fat kid.
Maybe it'll get pulled after one ep, like Anchorwoman. by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:14:52 PM
Still wondering how that ended...
Perhaps the town will turn into Deadwood for kids... by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:22:57 PM
That would be awesome.
Next week, the big prize is a centrifuge. by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:23:43 PM
They'll have nuclear weapons by the fifth week.
Okay, I'll turn off the lights on my way out... by tonagan	Sep 19th, 2007 08:24:58 PM
Good night, everybody, with your better things to do and girlfriends.
Great posts guys. Just watched the show. by jimbojones123	Sep 19th, 2007 08:56:34 PM
Really, if I were a kid, this would be about the coolist thing ever. Funny how the younger kids are really wanting to work hard and the teenagers are slacker bastards. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Problem with the gold stars by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 19th, 2007 09:30:39 PM
The problem with the gold stars is that the three tribal leaders or whatever they're called who vote on these things have no chance of getting one themselves. And those three are working their little asses off. BTW, am I the only one who wanted to beat the shit out of that 15 year old asswipe? What a little jerk he was.
The little girl: "There's no George Bush here" by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 19th, 2007 09:31:39 PM
Is it possible for me to move there? Sign me up now.
"Deadwood for kids" by nemesisdarkside	Sep 19th, 2007 10:09:30 PM
Yes that'd be totally awesome. Must see TV! I have to admit this show sounds interesting and I HATE "reality" shows.
"Deadwood for kids" - no cocksucker? by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 19th, 2007 10:13:31 PM
The major difference between this show and Deadwood was that I didn't hear the word "cocksucker" uttered a single time. Come on, Kid Nation. WTF is this?!
Hmmm... sounds like a show about kids doing chores by beefywhore	Sep 19th, 2007 10:31:17 PM
and yelling...captivating....
Next season on CBS ... Battle Royale, The Reality Show by BringingSexyBack	Sep 19th, 2007 10:42:14 PM
How about a reality show on horsefuckers too, since we're well on the road to hell?
I'm amazed. by Pops Freshemeyer	Sep 19th, 2007 11:46:16 PM
I had figured by now that somebody would have said Taylor is like the US American version of the girl from Harry Potter and we've only got 2,700 days until she's legal...
Painful to watch by wintocha67	Sep 20th, 2007 12:45:16 AM
Besides not being able to understand almost everything the smaller kids said, what I did hear was painful to listen to. And they kept interrupting the drama with the nondescript adult host and his pathetic gold star and survivor contests. $20000 for some random vote of approval after 2 days? It's too much. It jumped from day to night without any narrative shots, like where they're all sleeping. Besides that I just couldn't get any sense of the layout of the town.
AP: Kid Nation developing covert nuclear weapon program by Mullah Omar	Sep 20th, 2007 02:26:46 AM
Spy Kids have been called in to terminate the program with extreme grounding.
Surprisingly, this show is excellent!!! by CyberBeavis1326	Sep 20th, 2007 02:31:29 AM
With all the controversy, it's a shame that overshadows what a real good wholesome show it is. Finally something parents and kids can watch together without having to worry about violence, language, and what not. Kids can learn from this. From a psychology stand point it shows good social skills. I also found it cute. Like the "Bush" comment had me rolling. Then the kid that wanted to go home, had me in tears. I felt emotionally connected, cause I remember being away from home at a young age. It made me remember what it's like to be young like that. I think after all the uproar, it may become the best new family show on Television.
I wish William Golding was still alive... by wolvenom	Sep 20th, 2007 05:30:42 AM
Just to listen to the immortal quotes he would make on this. When they were all yelling over top of each other I was just waiting for them to suddenly break out the conch shell. That would have been hilarious. Raising hands is basically the same thing I suppose. I hope we get rumors of 'the beast' and all hell breaking lose soon after. LOL. I already see some similarities from LOTF. Mike the council guy reminds me of Ralph. Whereas the bully Greg is very similar to Jack. Who knew Golding was right on the money about this kind of thing. Maybe its scripted though to pit those two against each other. Just a hunch. all that rabbit hunting remind you of anything? 'KILL THE PIG! CUT ITS THROAT BASH IT IN!' ... LOL SO MANY COMPARISONS "Childhood is a disease-- a sickness that you grow out of."
I wonder if we get footage of them drinking bleach... by wolvenom	Sep 20th, 2007 05:32:22 AM
then you won't think its such a wholesome show you idiot
some people posting here must have been dropped... by wolvenom	Sep 20th, 2007 05:34:14 AM
on their heads as a child. If you think this kind of show is justified then you really are cracked. I suppose its one positive aspect is that people can now watch reality shows like survivor and kid nation instead of reading books like lord of the flies... idiots
Ironically, this show debuted on Golding's Birthday by tonagan	Sep 20th, 2007 07:24:30 AM
September 19th. Coincidence? Probably.
And if William Golding were alive, he'd say... by tonagan	Sep 20th, 2007 07:25:33 AM
"I'm 96 years old! Leave me alone! Why won't you let me die!"
I thought it was fascinating by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 20th, 2007 08:12:23 AM
Exploitative, yes, but nonetheless fascinating. It was interesting to see that kids generally made the right decisions. When given the option to have a TV with cable or seven more outhouses, you just knew the little bastards were gonna choose the TV. But they didn't... I just found it kind of amazing how resourceful the kids could be when they had to be. I'm not justifying the existence of the show, I'm just saying that it fascinates me as a sociological experiment.
I'll justify the existence of Kid Nation... by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 20th, 2007 08:43:03 AM
Families were willing to participate; people want to watch; it isn't illegal. Isn't that the way it should be? What is the problem here?
Poor little Jimmy! by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 20th, 2007 08:44:29 AM
Sucks that the littlest kids ended up on the lowest tier.
Kid, meet Social Worker. Social Worker, meet Kid. by biggles2_22	Sep 20th, 2007 09:33:59 AM
No caring parent would dare to put their young child on this show. No thinking parent would allow their young child to go on this show, even if they begged. No decent human being should award this show a fraction of a rating point by turning it on. And CarmillaVonDoom, legal does not = ethical by any stretch. If you find yourself enjoying this show, it's time for a little introspection.
C'mon you detractors, at least watch the show once. by tonagan	Sep 20th, 2007 10:02:27 AM
Sweeping generalzations about the decline of western civilization don't count.
Read the KN blog on Reelfans by reelfan	Sep 20th, 2007 10:55:11 AM
I watched the show...I found it pretty good...read about it here - http://tinyurl.com/2r4rv3 and leave your comments.
I don't see all the crap this show is slinging!!! by CyberBeavis1326	Sep 20th, 2007 11:19:59 AM
I found it to be a great show. The detractors are wrong. The thing is, these families and kids wanted on this show. The kids get paid, more than what they show on TV. Each kid got automatically $1,000 for participating, plus whatever they earn on the show from tasks. I don't see how this is all bad. So there were som incidents like the Bleach and whatnot. Survivor and Hell's Kitchen and other reality shows have their blunders too. Whether someone accidentally cuts themselves, gets stung, gets burned, etc. I'm sure the parents and kids signed a contract, and that the shows producers would ensure their safety to great lengths and if anything happened they have to have medical nearby.
your an idiot cyberbeavis... by wolvenom	Sep 20th, 2007 12:19:01 PM
Let me explain this in retard language so you can understand better. Survivor and Hell's kitchen of which you mentioned have ADULTS as contestants in dangerous environments with no supervision. Kids nation has CHILDREN as contestants in dangerous environments with no supervision. Now do you get the bigger picture? How about I explain it in scientific terms. An adult's brain is fully grown, and an adult has developed reason, common sense, a moral compass, and learning through experience to the extent that their brains have allowed. A child's brain is not yet grown and is still growing. A child has not yet developed reason, common sense, a moral compass, and have not had any learning through experience to the extent that their small brains have allowed.
CyberBeavis1326, childless. by biggles2_22	Sep 20th, 2007 12:38:51 PM
Obviously. Don't worry, you'll understand one day (granted you get out and meet some girls).
So very, very fake... by KanekoFan	Sep 20th, 2007 01:21:09 PM
The SAG uproar around this show isn't only about the treatment of the kids. Kid Nation has also become one of the major targets in SAG's (and the WGA's) ongoing complain that at this point most reality TV is in fact scripted programming performed by actors. Some of these kids have prior acting credits. I keep hoping that these groups will get their act together and get a suit going, because that could be the death knell for the reality TV production model. Sure, it would put me out of a job, but it's worth the sacrifice to see the reality beast slain.
And you're a dick, Wolvenom by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 20th, 2007 01:33:38 PM

Too many kids in the world anyway by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 20th, 2007 01:44:13 PM
Seriously guys, unethical to enjoy this show? I'm not trying to impress anyone with my personal taste...sorry. Like I said in my 1st post; if people choose to be involved and it's legal what is your problem?
Get over it you sissies, you want cencorship??!! by rectalscan	Sep 20th, 2007 01:47:12 PM
Just don't watch it you dizzy ingrates. If they all want to whore out their kids, so be it. Just like the little beauty pageants that prostitute out Mommy and Daddies little hooker. It's America and people like to sell their kids, no new news.
Hey Herc, care to weigh in? by tonagan	Sep 20th, 2007 01:49:21 PM
Or are you busy having a fistfight with Drew "Offensive Billboard" McWeeney?
Can't wait for "Ow! My Balls!" by biggles2_22	Sep 20th, 2007 03:03:18 PM
Seriously.
Are you serious wolvenom? by JuliusSeizure	Sep 20th, 2007 03:09:31 PM
You really think that the kids on this show, and the adults on shows like Survivor, had no supervision? You really think this is like Lord of the Flies? You're nuts.... Everyone on all of these shows is surrounded by people all the time, producers, directors, camera and sound crew; just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there. Shows like this are so obviously controlled, molded, scripted, arranged. They didn't just dump these kids out there, leave, and let them do whatever the hell they wanted. They were probably more restricted than I was at summer camp when I was a kid. I suppose you think all kids should be kept locked in their rooms till they're 18, and not allowed to think for themselves, develop their growing minds, common sense, and moral compasses. You don't need any actual life experience for those things do you? It'll all just happen magically I suppose.... You people so venomously up in arms about how "wrong" this show is, obviously have forgotten what it's like to be a kid, or you were such useless and imbecilic children yourselves that you expect all other kids to be as well. Hell, I would have given my left nut to be on a show like this when I was young, and probably would have managed just fine. Of course, I grew up on a farm, and knew hard work, responsibility and independence quite well. I also grew up when children's safety wasn't "over-regulated".... we didn't have to wear bicycle helmets, we got to play lawn darts, we rode around in the back of pick up trucks, and I was trusted to cook without supervision by the time I was 11. Not all safe or recommended things, but the point is, my parents gave me a bit of freedom and trust, didn't lord over me or constantly hold my hand, but still taught me responsibility, and I'd say I'm more independant than a lot of people I know. Seriously, unclench a bit and pull that stick out of your ass.....
JuliusSeizure=also childless by biggles2_22	Sep 20th, 2007 04:22:00 PM
see above.
whatever juliusseizure.... by wolvenom	Sep 20th, 2007 04:25:17 PM
We'll see what you have to say next week when they broadcast a bunch of 9 year olds slaughtering a chicken on national television. (which they were debating on the scenes for next week's episode).... responsibility is all about a 9 year old chowing down on raw bloody chicken flesh
Herc Weighs In by Hercules	Sep 20th, 2007 04:29:36 PM
Drew McWeeny needs to stop putting up offensive billboards.
You're right, I have no kids, so what? by JuliusSeizure	Sep 20th, 2007 04:47:16 PM
The world's far too overpopulated as it is, and I'm not that selfish.... and I have no "void" in my life that I feel the need to fill with that irresponsibility. Why should that matter though? I'm a reasonably intelligent, empathic person.... The kids on this show obviously have parents, and I'd bet that a lot of the people involved in the making of the show had parents. I really don't believe that every single person involved in this show just sat back, watched, and waited for these kids to endanger themselves, it's a ridiculous notion. Are you guys saying that you care more about children than this huge group of people involved in the show? I'm not saying there aren't horrible people and bad parents out there, because there are, a ridulous amount to be sure. I just think you're assuming the absolute worst about this particular event, based on hearsay and paranoia. Anything is possible, but I've yet to hear anything concerning this show that indicates anything abusive or neglectful was going on. And I'm the kind of guy that thinks those folks who doll up their kids Jon-Benet mini-slut style for their little kiddie "talent" shows, need to be publicly neutered. And I won't watch this show anyway, because I hate the scripted, heart-tugging nature of these so-called "reality" shows..... Still don't think these kids suffered, though.....
"You made a baby! Something a dog can do." by tonagan	Sep 20th, 2007 07:37:42 PM
Credit Bill Maher (also childless, as far as I know.)
Kill a chicken? Wait 'til the boys learn to CHOKE one! by tonagan	Sep 20th, 2007 07:39:03 PM
Talk about an uproar.
Next season, Al-Qaida declares war on Kid Nation! by MrMysteryGuest	Sep 21st, 2007 12:44:43 AM
Bin Laden finally finds a nation to push around!
Sheesh. There's a camera crew. by Phantom Einstein	Sep 21st, 2007 01:21:24 AM
And we all know that camera crews are EXCELLENT role models, so shut your bellyaching you cocksuckers. I loved kid nation.
Survivor Jr. by The Selecter	Sep 21st, 2007 04:15:34 AM
I suppose it was ok if you enjoy Survivor, but I thought it was kinda dull. At least it provides an outlet for parents to start their kids on the track to Hollywood and that lifestyle, or at the very least, some D-list notoriety.
Of course I was right JuliusSeizure. by biggles2_22	Sep 21st, 2007 08:26:34 AM
I was childless once and, so, I know how you feel. You don't have kids and therefore are ignorant of the experience. Please understand I'm slamming you, I'm just pointing out that once you get kids, your perspectives change quite a bit. Kind of like maturity. It can't be described. Being a parent who actually cares about his kids, I find it offensive that someone would allow their kids to be put into an exploitive experiment that involves them being separated from their parents for days or weeks. If they were mid-to-late teens, possibly, but not a friggin eight year old. As for the Bill Maher quote. That's the perfect example of the ignorance that I speak of. Here's a dude equating parenting to dogs squeezing out pups. I'm sure his parents would beg to differ.
CBS is re-airing the premiere Saturday at 8PM (et)! by tonagan	Sep 21st, 2007 08:38:15 AM
Just in case you haven't gotten your fill of kids crying, or feel like watching what you're complaining about.
Get over it!!! by CyberBeavis1326	Sep 21st, 2007 11:50:12 AM
Quite a few of us do like this show and find it really good. To the ones that don't and feel you need to slam our views of this show. It only shows your immense immaturity. It's a TV show, just like all shows reality or not, they all have their precautions. You could argue the difference between this and the adult reality shows, but the bottom line is things can happen on either set. It would be entirely negligent if there were not supervisors, medical, etc provided. I trust these shows know what they are doing. They have to protect their ass legally in every way. I think they know a hell of a lot more about production, safety, and practices & standards than you and I. I see this show as a good learning tool, cause it teaches kids to work together for a common goal and build character and responsibility. That's something most adults can't even grasp. Point in case, when the kids chose the outhouses over the TV, that was a really smart move for all. So detractors can slag away all they wish. I'll dismiss them as immature, ignorant, and overall incredibly stupid.
I can dig it Biggles.... by JuliusSeizure	Sep 21st, 2007 02:31:49 PM
You're right, if I were a parent, I wouldn't let my 8-year old do this either, I wasn't ready for something like that at my age, and wouldn't want to be seperated from them for that long either.... 11 and up seems more reasonable. I really doubt the kids on this show that are that young are going to contribute much, does seem a waste. I still wouldn't deem this show negligent or abusive based on what we know; just perhaps misguided in the age range they decided on.
Better concept: by Dingbatty	Sep 22nd, 2007 03:53:59 AM
Have the kids in a cinderblock cell, sitting in rows, staring at a dusty blackboard for about eight hours a day. Now that would be cruel!

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