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Vern Reviews The DEATH PROOF DVD!

Froost! by kingrobot	Sep 18th, 2007 05:52:21 AM
Honk!
I'm not really interested in Death Proof. by kingrobot	Sep 18th, 2007 05:54:15 AM
QT Lost me after Kill Bill.
I'll tell ya what I wasnt thrilled about Vern by IndustryKiller!	Sep 18th, 2007 06:05:42 AM
It's quite simple really. First and foremost I wanted to see more of Kurt Russell actually being a "slasher". He had a few scenes, but ultimately it seemed a random hodgepodge of girls ended up being the stars, and said girls range from really interesting to compeltely unmemorable. They're too inconsistent. Also their conversations go on absolutely forever, especially that diner sequence, which brings the film to screeching halt when tarantino take 15 minutes to say what could easily take three to five. It's obvious that he has such apersonal attachment to these actresses that he could watch the read the phonebook, butt hat doesn't mean he has to subject us to it. it's well acted and the dialogue is organic, but as my friend in the theater sitting next to me said "Get to the point Tarantino." Meanwhile you have the brilliant character in Stuntman Mike just going completely to waste. Just when he starts to really ramp up, the script turns and makes him the victim. WHich, don't get me wrong, was absolutely brilliant and hilarious and one of the best parts of the movie, but I felt he had some more maniacal dimension to explore before we got to that point. So Tarantino is right when he says it's a slasher and a girl revenge flick, but by being both at the same time it is a master of neither.
"buying other people's movies" by bluelou_boyle	Sep 18th, 2007 06:08:24 AM
Vern, great review. Funny stuff. But i disagree with this point. Certainly, some of Harvey Scissorhands editing choices have sucked. BUT, when they buy the rights to these movies, they have the right to make these changes. The movies do not just belong to these 'other people' anymore. The American market - and by that I mean the moviegoing masses, many of whom like martial arts movies but are not hardcore fans - is different to the Asian market.
For such a film geek by Bob Muttonchops	Sep 18th, 2007 06:15:53 AM
His movies sure do have terrible DVDs
I don´t know why by CuervoJones	Sep 18th, 2007 06:26:54 AM
But i liked Death Rroof. Maybe is Kurt Russell´s fault.
Death proof an 'actual movie'? by Windowlicker74	Sep 18th, 2007 06:28:14 AM
I never got that. I saw a movie about a bunch of text-messaging chicks that go to a bar and got killed by this psycho. Then halfway in the movie we get a new 'movie'/episode whatever, about a whole new bunch of chicks who are about to get killed by same phycho, but this time they fight back. end. i'll take planet terror any day of the fucking week
Key sentence: by ButtfuckZydeco	Sep 18th, 2007 06:29:44 AM
"It's a good deleted scene but it doesn't add enough to justify how much it slows things down." Apply liberally, repeat.
I remember Tarantino on the old Dennis Miller show by ButtfuckZydeco	Sep 18th, 2007 06:34:23 AM
on HBO. Back when he and Clooney were running around joined at the hip. Clooney was the guest, but someone from the audience made a crack about Tarantino. Clooney did a: "want me to go get him, I'll go get him and you'll regret it" sorta build up. It was hard to tell if it was a set up, or Clooney was kidding, or what, but it was a really cool moment. You just knew that if Tarantino came out he was going to eviscerate that heckler. Then he did come out, and his rant was really lame. Lotta buildup and hype for a lot of nothing...... Sign of things to come
Planet Terror... by LordEnigma	Sep 18th, 2007 06:36:41 AM
remains the best part of this whole fucking debacle. I will buy Death Proof and enjoy Zoe Bell being Zoe Bell. Yet; I would rather be watching the goofiness of Planet Terror.
Re Industrykiller by barnaby jones	Sep 18th, 2007 06:45:41 AM
I watched DP last night and i have to say i'm in 100% agreement with you. I'd like to go back and see see the original version.
The double feature seems custom made... by rbatty024	Sep 18th, 2007 06:52:35 AM
to watch at home. People don't want to sit in a movie theater for three fucking hours, they want to sit at home for three fucking hours with some pretzels and beer that don't cost fifty bucks. Damn bloodsuckers!
Tarantino turns down "Heroes" in ignorant fashion by Mr Incredible	Sep 18th, 2007 06:53:57 AM
From The Sun September 13, 2007: FILMMAKER Quentin Tarantino has dabbled with psychos in Natural Born Killers and assassins in Reservoir Dogs - but it seems he can't suspend his belief enough to work with superpowers. The cult director has turned down the opportunity to direct an episode of hit TV show Heroes - because he's never watched the series. Quentin - who also gave us Kill Bill and Pulp Fiction - admits he has snubbed numerous offers by bosses of the superhero programme because he isn't a fan. He said: "They were trying to get me to do one. I haven't even seen the f*ing show. "What the f* is Heroes?" Yeah, right. Maybe he should move his face from the coke table, and watch TV once in a while. Have a nice day.
I got it! by maxx36	Sep 18th, 2007 07:03:50 AM
Movie was great and so was Zoe, hope when the release the both movies together they don't add more stuff to them. This only should be the ultimate collection of the movie.
why the fuck should anyone watch T.V.? by Geek Sodomizer	Sep 18th, 2007 07:05:00 AM
Fuck Heroes. And this movie rocked. No the dialogue and script wasn't anything special compared to Pulp Fiction and yes the girl's chatter does get boring on repeat viewings but I still loved the movie as a whole. My favorite Tarantino movies in order are Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill 1, Death Proof, Kill Bill 2.
Alright! Even more scenes with women talking! by solartaco3	Sep 18th, 2007 07:09:04 AM
Extended conversations about nothing! Yeah!
True Romance by ButtfuckZydeco	Sep 18th, 2007 07:10:59 AM
Best Tarantino flick. Search your heart and you'll know it to be true.
Good T.V. > Most movies nowadays.. by turketron	Sep 18th, 2007 07:14:47 AM
Why the fuck would anyone watch T.V.? LOST, THE WIRE, THE SHIELD, HEROES, BSG, DEXTER are just a few reasons why. And the girl's chatter was boring on the first viewing. Bring on Planet Terror or the true Grindhouse double feature and I might care.
Man oh man! by Wogga Wogga	Sep 18th, 2007 07:14:55 AM
mostly totally overbearingly booooring. The scenes with Stuntman Mike was good, but all the women talking CRAP for minutes at end for no reason whatsoever just bored the hell outta me. It was like watching the complete works of Shakespeare - in Martian and in slowmotion. The last car chase was utter (there is no other word for it) shit. Which also summarizes 90% of the whole movie. The last 30 minutes felt like seven hours for fuck sake. Tarantino is a has-been. Has been ever since before Kill Bill. His best work is behind him. Ahead lies only shit. Sad but true. I'm self censoring myself as to the female leads. Suffice to say that Oprah looks more appealing than they do. Apart from Rose.
I hope by ButtfuckZydeco	Sep 18th, 2007 07:16:58 AM
when they release both movies together they don't add more stuff to them too, and that they put them on seperate disks, and that the Death Proof disk actually unspools and is made of a soft, slightly absorbant material which won't chafe my tuccus and doesn't clog my apartment's upon flushing.
Time to bring back "but Kurt Russell was laughing..." by tonagan	Sep 18th, 2007 07:17:24 AM
I miss that catchphrase.
"Shown to Packed Houses?" by Smerdyakov	Sep 18th, 2007 07:20:23 AM
Certainly not packed with people.
nice review by Buffalo500	Sep 18th, 2007 07:27:58 AM
Saw the film last week with QT present (me and QT we go back). Anyway really enjoyed the film. I actually enjoyed the talking scenes as much as the last car chase, those scenes just seemed real, a few chicks hanging around bulshitting and drinking. Loved the soundtrack also, one of QT's best. Can't wait to see Grindhouse in all it's glory although it looks like I will have to catch that on dvd.
Death Proof...pt1. by Lerkst	Sep 18th, 2007 07:30:13 AM
is the worst movie I've seen this year. Even Hannibal Rising was better than this; Kurt Russell is the coolest man alive, but even he couldn't save this pointless film. It's not that it was horribly made, I'm not sure Quentin is capable..it's that it was horribly written. But worse, it defines the word BORING.
Tarantino = hack by Thick McRunFast	Sep 18th, 2007 07:30:51 AM
Kinda sad that geeks are still fellating someone who peaked 13 years ago with PULP FICTION. Yes, Quentin, you love 70's exploitation flicks; we get it, already.
what's wrong with turning down a show he's never seen? by bowtiehoon	Sep 18th, 2007 07:33:07 AM
heroes is like a like a really hot chick you go on a date with and then when you manage to finally get her in the sack, it turns out she has a penis...yeah fuck heroes...
since we got ripped off in Britain by Lost Jarv	Sep 18th, 2007 07:40:31 AM
I went out of my way to get a bent copy of the whole film, and Death Proof was dull. There is no other word for it- it was just dull. Seeing the shorter version totally put me off seeing the longer one altogether. In fact I can not think of amy reason I would put myself through it. A pointless lap dancing sequence does not make up for the utter tedium of the rest of the film
Death Proof by Lerkst	Sep 18th, 2007 07:51:16 AM
..but what bothered me most was what I loved about Quentin in the 90's. His love of things retro. He veered away from it a bit in Kill Bill---and I started to get excited about his work again. But the pointless dialougue, the constant 'soundtrack' placement in Deathproof. It was just too distracting, and I couldn't WAIT for Kurt to kill these girls---just to shut them up. Like Shymalan, I fear that Tarantino may be best writing from source material, or letting someone direct HIS material. Deathproof, despite Kurt Russell, is absolute garbage.
Are the faux trailers included? by Trazadone	Sep 18th, 2007 07:51:43 AM
You didn't mention anything about the trailers. I loved Death Proof but I don't think a longer cut is necessary. I thought it was a bit too long the first time I saw it and there are certainly entire scenes that I will never watch twice (e.g., the women sitting around the table babbling). I'm psyched that this is finally on DVD though.
A great steaming pile of cinematic shit. by TheAllSeeingEye	Sep 18th, 2007 07:51:49 AM
To say that this movie is overhyped is fucking collosal understatement. IndustryKiller hit the nail on the head. There's too much of the chicks blabbering on about fuck all; and yes i get that Tarantino usually puts that kinda dialog into his movies but it's usually interesting or humorous, this was neither. There was also a poor use of Kurt Russel who could have been a fucking brilliant slasher; one for the annals film history. In short, the premise was brilliant but the execution was poor. I've never been so bored watching ANY movie before. Total fucking crap.
Sometimes the theatrical cut is just better by Spandau Belly	Sep 18th, 2007 07:52:21 AM
I always feel bad about saying that, too. I always feel like there's no way some studio would ever know better than the bloke who concieved and filmed the movie, but it happens. Strangely, I really feel that way about Terminator 2: The Judgement Day. I like those scenes with John and Termie getting fast food and talking about humanity and learning how to smile, but they totally throw off the pacing and more is sometimes just too much. But I really like how through non-Blu Ray, non-HD, plain-ol'-regular DVD magic they give you the choice of which cut you'd like to view on one DVD! That was brilliant! Same with my Alien Tetrology box set. Power to the people.
What tarintino did to stuntman mike at the end... by lex romero	Sep 18th, 2007 07:55:56 AM
...of the film was unforgiveable. He goes from being this cool hardass, to an embarresing, snivelling wimp. It seemed completely out of character and took away any threat or danger in the final chase. All the female cast were unlikeable and i didn't care what happened to them.
John Tucker Must Die = better version of Death Proof by Spandau Belly	Sep 18th, 2007 07:57:19 AM
Sad but true.
Too bad this wasn't popular by Series7	Sep 18th, 2007 08:11:25 AM
It would have been interesting to see them make Grindhouse into a series, having different directors try the double feature. But yet we get 8 films becoming a repeat idea? Those movies all sucked.
I want a Grindhouse DVD! by rev_skarekroe	Sep 18th, 2007 08:15:42 AM
Kind of misses half the point when you split the films up and remove the trailers.
No, the trailers aren't there by Purgatori	Sep 18th, 2007 08:22:10 AM
and they aren't on Planet Terror either...except for Machete. At least I didn't see them on the review copy I got. And that sucks ass.
Nice one, Vern. by Zarles	Sep 18th, 2007 08:25:36 AM
Almost makes up for that mess you called a Transformers review. I'll be buying this on Friday.
Kill Bill by Nightwood	Sep 18th, 2007 08:29:42 AM
Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair is listed on Amazon as having a Dec. 25th release date. Since you asked.
Stuntman Mike by Buffalo500	Sep 18th, 2007 08:34:24 AM
I liked what Tarantino did to Stuntman Mike at the end of the film. He’s a real tough guy when he is in his car and has helpless girls at his mercy, but like all bullies when the tables are turned and he is actually hurt he loses all his machoness and becomes a snivelling wreck….makes a great change from your usual unstoppable movie psychos
Death Proof would've been better by Samuel Fulmer	Sep 18th, 2007 08:43:30 AM
with a little less inane dialogue. I give QT credit though, at least he's not afraid to tackle different genres. It may not have worked, but at least he's getting away from the hit men and Hong Kong crap.
Zoe Bell is awesome by PVIII	Sep 18th, 2007 08:50:48 AM
if you like looking at mannish chicks with penises. This movie failed, because by the end I just wanted all the obnoxious, superficial chicks to die horrible, horrible deaths. As did the audience with whom I watched the movie (the collective "damns" gave it away everytime one of the ladies failed to be run over).
Sam Fulmer is right... by gernblanston67	Sep 18th, 2007 08:55:27 AM
Lots of inane dialogue. Deathproof was a lot fo what's great and what's bad about QT. But I liked it in general. A better film than PT. People seemed surprised that they failed at the box office, but think about it, the filmmakers weren't exactly targeting a large demographic. They were making a movie for lovers of crappy movies.
"Maybe he should move his face from the coke table and by Thunderbolt Ross	Sep 18th, 2007 09:00:47 AM
watch TV once in a while." Yes, TV - how could you not watch it? Get off your LAZY ASS and WATCH TV like most active, engaged Americans! Get out there and get some culture, Tarantino!
Grow up, Quentin! by DerLanghaarige	Sep 18th, 2007 09:06:31 AM
Go out and make a real and original movie! Stop copying your favourite movies from 30-40 years ago and PLEASE stop filling the blank script pages with annoying, overlong nonsense dialogue. Ask the Coen Brothers how they write their dialogue. Y'know, it's entertaining AND important for the movie! And get new friends. REAL friends, not yes-men. I don't know if you are a nice guy or the asshole that everybody says you are, so it's nothing personal when I say: I hope that the Death Proof DVD and your next movie tank so hard, that the Weinsteins will take away most of your creative freedom and tell you what to do. I don't think that they can make your movies worse than they already are. Thank you. Again: Nothing personal.
It figures that a too-long, boring movie... by DirkBelig	Sep 18th, 2007 09:12:02 AM
...gets spooged on by a QT fanboy in a too-long, boring love letter/plea to be adopted. I liked QT - I'm not a hater - but he totally crawled up his own ass and died this time and when I see idiots rhapsodize about this jerkoff as if it had actual merit, I know it's fanboy love trumping reason. It's sad and pitiful to witness. Also, isn't it painfully obvious that anyone hating on "Planet Terror" is just jealous that Rodriguez is banging Rose McGowan.
I Love Death Proof. by Redfive!	Sep 18th, 2007 09:12:23 AM
and Zoe is actually better looking then anyone in it too.I saw them all at Comic Con 2006 and Zoe is drop dead Georgious,where the other girls are very attractive.Marley Shelton coming at a close second. Plus the 2nd half was better then all of planet terror.
Horrible Fucking Movie - Putrid Spew by hatespeech	Sep 18th, 2007 09:15:25 AM
of Satan is what it is, garbage.
Death Proof Was Great by Birdys Piano Teacher	Sep 18th, 2007 09:20:09 AM
Tarantino is a far better director than Rodriguez. And I'll always be interested in his dialogue, which no one else can touch.
Death Proof was excellent by Osmosis Jones	Sep 18th, 2007 09:33:35 AM
Hopefully seperating it from the hyperbolic cartoonishness of Planet Terror (which I enjoyed a hell of a lot on it's own wavelength) will allow people to appreciate it's slow burn pleasures. Zoe Bell rocks!
The worst part of Death Proof: by Billy Batts	Sep 18th, 2007 09:43:08 AM
So you're being followed at high speeds by a lunatic trying to knock your friend off the hood of your car? What should you do? STOP THE FUCKING CAR and let your friend take take 2 seconds to get off the hood and get back in the car. Jesus. You lost him like 3 times yet you didn't slow down for one goddamn second. I can't believe this didn't piss anyone else off.
My problem with Death Proof by LOTGA	Sep 18th, 2007 09:50:29 AM
The problem I had with the whole Grindhouse feature (and Death Proof in particular) was that after Planet Terror which cut straight to the chase with action and never really let up, Death Proof kind of dragged before getting to the good bits. I think if they'd switched the two (despite DP having the better ending) I'd prbably have enjoyed it more. Oh well, I still have the DVD sitting in front of me here at work, waiting for me to take it home and watch it.
Machete by macgruder	Sep 18th, 2007 09:58:55 AM
According to Stuff magazine (not very reliable), Machete will be out around december/january on dvd. Something for us all to look forward to. And Rodriguez is directing it.
best part by Trooperof3	Sep 18th, 2007 09:59:54 AM
awesome cars & Zoe Bell
Death Proof >>> 300 by gruntybear	Sep 18th, 2007 10:02:53 AM
I'll take brainy diner conversation of a table of chicks in tight t-shirts over monosyllabic dunderheads tossing spears at mutants in slo-mo any day of the week.
what a funny review by CherryValance	Sep 18th, 2007 10:20:45 AM
No really, it cracked me up in a few places. Especially the bit about Tarantino's shyness. sigh What can I say? I liked Death Proof too. I didn't like Planet Terror at all really. But the idea that they're releasing them separately just seems more whorish than any other DVD double-dipping situation I can think of. I mean supposedly the whole purpose was to make chopped up Grindhouse movies for a certain movie going experience. But now you've got two complete and probably coherent movies? Okay. The fact that the trailers aren't on it just speaks volumes about the motivations here. Had they released a bare bones DVD with the presentation we saw in theaters now and then released the completed versions of Death Proof and Planet Terror separately for Christmas with a handful of cheesy extras, I wouldn't say anything. That would make total sense. But this is like calling us retards as they're lifting our wallets. I won't be abused.
He lost me at "filmatists" by JackSmack	Sep 18th, 2007 10:27:32 AM
Remember when people could write in English and actually had something to say?
Re:Billy Batts by ripper t. jones	Sep 18th, 2007 10:28:02 AM
Thank you brother, for saying what I've been wondering since the piece of shit was released.
Tarantino's only fault is sometimes he's self-indulgent by HamiltonGeyser	Sep 18th, 2007 10:32:45 AM
great director who sometimes bores the hell out of audiences (see jackie brown). hope he starts making real movie then.
i liked his 70s exploit movie more when it was called.. by HamiltonGeyser	Sep 18th, 2007 10:34:15 AM
Pulp Fiction
bluelou_boyle, you gotta be fucking kidding. by DocPazuzu	Sep 18th, 2007 10:37:32 AM
Why should we cater to the lowest cultural common denominator? What's wrong with exposing people to cinematic "languages" which are different from our own? By your rationale, when The Godfather showed in India, it would have been perfectly OK to edit in song-and-dance numbers so that the Punjabi crowd would "get it". Sure, it might have made more money, but it's still fucking movie rape.
I'll give this a second chance rental by skimn	Sep 18th, 2007 10:46:56 AM
Maybe after the goofy goopy gore of Planet Terror, and those great trailers, Death Proof was a comedown in the theatre. On its own, I'll give it a second chance, but I echo just about every negative post above. And I have loved just about everythings QT has done so far. And wheres the love for Jackie Brown?
QT turned down "Heroes"? by Zarles	Sep 18th, 2007 10:52:04 AM
Good. That WB reject and its high-school-play production values doesn't deserve him.
Sorry skimm, by Lost Jarv	Sep 18th, 2007 10:56:28 AM
Jackie Brown is just meh. Not as bad as it is made out to be but not xcellent either. Death Proof was awful on the other hand. There was an interview with Tarantino in the UK papers last weekend and he came across as being, on one hand, completely in denial about what a sorry piece of shit DP is, and on the other crawling up weinstein's collective arse. Sadly, the wife now wants to see it. Fuck.
on heroes. by Lost Jarv	Sep 18th, 2007 10:57:59 AM
I'm quite enjoying it so far- but am also surprised to here QT turn it down when you look at some of the shit that he has directed for TV. I just want him to finish Bastards.
What Grindhouse needed was a time machine... by Alonzo Mosely	Sep 18th, 2007 11:06:50 AM
So we could have got Res Dogs era Tarantino and el mariachi era Rodriguez, given them a couple of million each and had them make the movies... Maybe that would have had some relation to the concept of the 70s exploitation/grindhouse/drive- in type movie. Rather than getting two well known, Hollywood veterans to do it...
And what is the iconic image of Grindhouse by skimn	Sep 18th, 2007 11:09:02 AM
Say what you will about Rodriguez and Planet Terror, but the image of the woman with a automatic rifle for a leg is something that sticks in the 'ol mind. Talk about female empowerment, with a big phallic gun for a leg.
Death Proof === 300 by Domi'sInnerChild	Sep 18th, 2007 11:09:13 AM
Both looked good in the previews and were boring as hell. The idea of each movie was better in theory than the actual execution. Both left me wanting those two hours of my life back.
Why no English subtitles for Tarantino DVD's? by BanAllFIRSTPosters	Sep 18th, 2007 11:22:58 AM
You would think as masturabatory as he gets with writting dialogue that having his DVD's released with English subtitles would be a must.
@DerLanghaarige by Kabukiman	Sep 18th, 2007 11:24:55 AM
Good call, comparing him to the Coens. Hey, Tarantino, do something original, like the Coens! Look at their last 6 movies, one based on a book, one based on a screenplay by two other writers, a remake, an homage to 40s film noir, a reworking of the Odyssey and a reworking/parody of a film noir plot. Come on, Tarantino, stop referencing the 30/40 year old movies you love and start referencing the 50/60 year old movies you love! I love Tarantino, I love the Coens, let's not be assholes and try to rip one down by comparing him to the others, especially when you're an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
THE BLOODSUCKERS WON'T GET MY MONEY!! by hollywoodsummers	Sep 18th, 2007 11:25:12 AM
Well at least not for this one... but they will for PLANET TERROR, that one was SO much better!! I'll netflix this DEATH PROOF, watch it once and I'm guessing that will be the last time I waste my time on it ever again. God bless Netflix.
"Tarantino's only fault: sometimes he's self-indulgent" by Pound Sand	Sep 18th, 2007 11:25:52 AM
Oh man, that's so perfectly written.
QT Did CSI by Series7	Sep 18th, 2007 11:30:19 AM
Doesn't anyone remember that interesting two parter? I thought it was ok, didn't really notice a QT feel to it. Its hard for famous directors to make shows their own unless they help create them. Like Steven did with Columbo!
Perhaps Not Necessarily QT's Fault by Saggy	Sep 18th, 2007 11:30:30 AM
I am a massive QT fan, but I enjoyed Planet Terror a lot more than I enjoyed Death Proof. There was so much greatness in DP, I wanted to enjoy it more than I did. What turned me off the most seems to be a common complaint: It was a chore to listen to those girls talk. QT defends these scenes with some quote about putting up his dialogue against Preston Sturges' anyday - I don't know if I'd go that far, but I do not think the writing in DP is why these scenes are a turn-off. I think the blame lies in the fact that "QT Dialogue" has become such a pervasive and ubiquitous pop-cultural reference point in and of itself that it is near impossible to act QT dialogue without "doing" QT dialogue. Similar to the way so many hack comedians do a standard "impression" of Di Nero or William Shatner - a genuine interpretation becomes near impossible since we've all been so saturated by the "hack" versions. When the great actors in Dogs and Pulp were originally interpreting QT's material, a real magical synergy occurred. Those actors genuinely infused their performances with their character, not the act of "doing QT dialogue" because "doing QT dialogue" didn't exist yet. In Death Proof, not that these girls aren't talented, but it seems impossible that these young actresses who grew up in the age of QT dialogue saturation would be able to NOT "do QT". THAT is why it is difficult to watch - as actors, they are not creating real characters because they are too busy doing what they think "doing QT dialogue" means - as if using a heavily accetuated "fucking" as an adjective is enough to evoke a character. To QT's credit, it IS enough to evoke recognition of "doing QT dialogue" but we do not get that magical synergy when both the thrill and fun of QT dialogue is matched with an earnest performance like Travolta's or Tierney's. The girls in DP were charismatic, and the dialogue was no more or less arbitrary that in QT's more revered works - but the girls' performances in DP came off like a bad comedian who thinks that All...you...HAVE TO DO, to...do a...CAPTAIN KIRK...impression is...speak...HALTINGLY, and...accent...seemingly...RAN DOM...words... If it would have been possible for QT to cast actresses who had never seen a QT film or a film biting QT's style (and another testament to QT's greatness, it would not have been) I think the results would have been a lot more enjoyable.
Hello! by colematthews	Sep 18th, 2007 11:41:09 AM
My name is Athena, my birthday is february 9th, then I'll be four years old. 123
One word for Death Proof: BOOOORING!!! by rygel	Sep 18th, 2007 11:49:45 AM
nuff said! Tarantino is overrated not very original
anchorite by Stuntcock Mike	Sep 18th, 2007 12:03:58 PM
The only thing you've got wrong is, Harry will be getting them for free.
I think Weintein paid for his honeymoon as well by Stuntcock Mike	Sep 18th, 2007 12:17:00 PM
His HD-DVD player at least.
Who the fuck is Weintien? by Stuntcock Mike	Sep 18th, 2007 12:17:39 PM
Let's try Weinstein
Moriarty, you must have a huge vagina to have watched by future help	Sep 18th, 2007 12:26:56 PM
it 3 times.
Amen anchorite by Purgatori	Sep 18th, 2007 12:27:38 PM
People were asking me why I was so fucking pissed about the releasing they are doing of Grindhouse when I got freebies of the films. I could give a fuck. The fact is, if they would have released them the way they should have, I would have bought them. It's BS, and I'm curious to see if Rob Zombie knows his trailer is lost to the ether, because he was stoked about that flick. I just can't believe it, that the whole point of the thing, trailers and all, is just blown to shit. It's crap and it's unfair to the fans, to ream them like this. The fact is, even Rodriguez said that he humped to make Planet Terror under budget because he wanted to have enough left for Tarantino to make his movie. So my question to the Weinsteins is this...prove to me your flick lost money. Because as I see it, the only BIG name you had to pay was Kurt Russell. Willis did his part for free. The special effects weren't that rampant, and were mainly in Rodriguez's movie, and he's the master of low budget. So I find it hard to believe that they lost the hunk of cash they say they did. This is just flat out greed. And the fans pay the price for their Quad Release Millenium Special Packaging Uber Elite Speical Edition if they want to get the damn thing the way it was meant to be seen.
Stuntman Vern by lucky slevin	Sep 18th, 2007 12:51:57 PM
You nailed it Vern. thanks for that vernacular head shot to all those who backtalk deathproof
Kabukiman: by DerLanghaarige	Sep 18th, 2007 12:59:51 PM
I said: "Ask the Coen Brothers how they write their dialogue." I accept what you say, but I was saying that every single word written by the Coens has been much smarter, entertaining and better written, than all that Tarantino came ever up with. (Especially when he just steals lines from other movies, like the "My name is Buck, I'm here for a fuck" in Kill Bill) So that part of my post was just about the dialogue. WAIT A SECOND!!! I'm glad I got interrupted, before I posted this, because I just remembered the beginning of Reservoir Dogs. A great introduction of all important characters and hilarious as hell! Great stuff. Too bad that he never reached that level again.
Vanishing Point Challenger by digitalcos	Sep 18th, 2007 01:03:11 PM
Not Charger. Stuntman Mike's second car was a Charger though. The girls were drivng a Challenger. Remember, we're geeks... the details are everything.
true grindhouse exp. even possible? by junkinacrate	Sep 18th, 2007 01:08:38 PM
beside the obvious notion of the atmosphere, will it even be possible for a true double feature GRINDHOUSE experience at home? What i'm saying is can you fit PT & the fake trailer & DP ALL on one disc so that you don't have to get up and change the disc? i am uneducated on the format wars (HD vs Blu-Ray) but damn that a lot of info for one disc. if this the case, than what is the big deal about 2 seperate disc? The trailers? This is where we are getting screwed IMO.
Zoe Bell by longshot7	Sep 18th, 2007 01:13:08 PM
God, what a beautiful creature. I would have her babies in a heartbeat.
PLANT by tme2nsb	Sep 18th, 2007 01:21:56 PM
Just kidding Vern ;)
Tarantino's "Heroes" episode summerized: by Mike_D	Sep 18th, 2007 01:22:58 PM
-We see the heroes all chilling around a table at a diner having a 15 minute conversation about drugs. -About 45 shots of Hayden Panettiere's bare feet. -About 20 shots of Masi Oka licking her feet. -Ali Larter shooting up before putting on an internet show where she gets anally raped by Sylar. -And the show ends where it began.
thanks fellas by Vern	Sep 18th, 2007 01:30:46 PM
INDUSTRYKILLER: That's very well put. I can see where you're comin from on that. I think the treatment of Stuntman Mike is clearly intentional, it's a play on your expectations, much like DePalma would do. It's a structure that makes you expect a series of murders and for Stuntman Mike to have this power of the women. But then it pulls the carpet from underneath you, it focuses on the would-be victims and turns Mike into a crying sissy. And I like that. But as a fan of traditional slasher movies I certainly would've dug the straightahead version it sets up too. BLUELOU: I can't agree with that. Are you an American and if so do you prefer Asian movies to be renamed "The Warrior", have some 50 Cent on the soundtrack and be half an hour shorter, dubbed into English and six years old by the time you see them? We as movie fans want the original version. All the other companies have learned that, when are the fucking Weinsteins gonna catch up? But the worse problem is actually the shelving of movies. If they're too busy to release them they should give them to somebody else who has the time. WINDOWLICKER: I say "actual movie" because to me it was characters and stories that I cared about leading up to an amazing action sequence. PLANET TERROR was fun (for a while) but it was about as solid as a balloon made of rice paper. The characters were all homages and parodies, not actual characters. My feeling is Rodriguez made an homage to a genre, Tarantino tried to make a new entry in the genre. ZARLES: Glad you liked it, but I would have to say this one was rushed. TRANSFORMERS was a way better piece of reviewing on my part. Maybe go back and read that one a couple more times you will see what I'm talkin about. DIGITALCOS: You're right, sorry I fucked that up.
I'm the world's biggest Tarantino fan, but... by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 01:30:54 PM
Death Proof is BORING as shit. Fuck. I never got the hate for KILL BILL although I will admit that it's not nearly the film PULP FICTION or TRUE ROMANCE or RESERVOIR DOGS was. I even kind of like JACKIE BROWN in a "I'll probably never actually sit through it again" sort of way, but DEATH PROOF is awful. Is Q losing his touch or has he just gotten too lazy? Every other year he's talking about some movie he may or may not ever make. I dunno about the man. Having met him in person and seeing what an asshole he really is, and knowing how he ripped off so many of his old friends for ideas (Craig Hamann, Avary, etc.), I think his current creative bankruptcy may just be karma finally kicking him in his fat ass.
oh yeah, and Anchorite by Vern	Sep 18th, 2007 01:31:37 PM
good job on the release plan, that's the funniest post I've seen from you.
I thought it was great. by TattooedBillionaire	Sep 18th, 2007 01:31:56 PM
It certainly wasn't QT's best, but it was the highlight of Grindhouse for me. For those who found it boring, I can only imagine what you would think of a masterpiece like Yosihiru Ozu's Tokyo Story. I shudder to think, and no, Death Proof doesn't come close to the greatness of Tokyo Story.
And Zoe Bell looks like a dude by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 01:33:16 PM
That is all.
"She's a man, bay-bee" by BanAllFIRSTPosters	Sep 18th, 2007 01:37:13 PM
Zoe Bell hot?
IWONT by AllieJamison	Sep 18th, 2007 01:48:08 PM
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"I liked the shorter version" by Vi	Sep 18th, 2007 01:48:47 PM
"History repeats itself here, I liked the shorter version better. It was more efficient. The long one doesn't ruin it though. I still like it." My thoughts exactly with the LOTR EEs!
SPOILER!!!! by Kurzinski Valentine	Sep 18th, 2007 01:52:23 PM
Indy dies. No seriously, I liked DEATH PROOF. A lot. GRINHOUSE was fun as all fucking fun hell in the theater. In conclusion, titties.
I really wanted to like Death Proof... by football	Sep 18th, 2007 01:57:41 PM
... but instead I thought it was a huge letdown. The dialogue between the girls is so mind-numbing you might find yourself in a coma before you get to the overlong car chase and lame ending. Also, why do all QT's characters sound like a cipher for the man himself? Can he write anything without it sounding like it's a geek in a comic store talking about his prestine copy of Green Lantern #1? I was really hoping this movie would be a cross between Death Race 2000 and Mad Max 2 with gritty dialogue, but instead it ends up being a really stupid, pointless exercise in lowering people's expectations of when the next QT movie comes out. All I can say is Inglorious Bastards will have to be an A+ otherwise most of us will be putting you in the Micheal Bay category, and that ain't a good place to be. I give this movie D- for effort.
Sorry, but I thought it was terrible... by wookie1972	Sep 18th, 2007 01:58:28 PM
QT likes to think of his women as "Strong," but in reality they were just plain annoying. The dialogue about Vanishing Point was pointless, and frankly didn't make sense in context (none of the actresses were even born when that movie came out, and yes, I realize they could have seen it on video, but I doubt they would have). The women just sound like puppets for QT's "clever" dialogue. Also, the "revenge" aspect made no sense, considering that there was no connection between the two groups of women. I'm one of the few who actually think Jackie Brown was a step forward (he seemed to be growing up), but when it bombed, it seems like QT got scared and regressed.
also... by wookie1972	Sep 18th, 2007 01:59:53 PM
Edgar Wright's DON'T was the best part. It sucks that the trailers won't be released.
IMO the best movie of 07!!! by Orionsangels	Sep 18th, 2007 02:17:10 PM
It felt like a real film, unlike most of the synthetic films of today. No CGI. Just good ol' fashion action! As for being too slow. I must be in the minority here, but I love slow pacing and dialogue in movies. 2001 A Space Odyssey is one of my all time favorite films. Slow paced films like these are best watched alone. There more intimate experiences. Where you just focus on every little detail and really dive into the world the movie is presenting you. I really enjoyed this. All in all It's a very refreshing film in an other wise boring Hollywood. I also think that people in general who dislike like something different, have become boring and mundane themselves. That's right. They've come to expect a certain thing and when its not what they expected. They say it's garbage. They don't wanna soak in anything they're watching. In other words they don't wanna think too much. They just wanna get to the point right away. They wanna be thrilled 24/7. I blame MTV. Who created the short attention span generation. Even if you don't enjoy DP. You gotta give QT credit for making the film he wanted to make. This is QT having fun, not trying to make the second coming. Everyone wants the next Pulp Fiction, why? Pulp Fiction is Pulp Fiction, leave it at that. QT is trying different things. You never know what he's gonna do next. He breaks the mold of most conventional directors. That in my book makes him one of most exciting film makers working in films today.
Skip to the last couple of chapters by AlwaysThere	Sep 18th, 2007 02:17:52 PM
You'll save yourself a lot of time.
Deathproof & Geeks by bloodstainedking	Sep 18th, 2007 02:25:04 PM
As great as the internet is, in a strange way it destroyed what it was to be a film geek. Geeks used to get excited to see something crazy, gory, or just plain cool looking that mainstream film producers either refused to show or just plain believed were below them. We knew these movies were far from perfect, but we loved them for their inventive ideas or no holds barred, balls to the walls visuals and action. But with the advent of the internet and movie sites and talkbacks, all of the sudden being a film geek wasn't about the sheer love of those "Ain't It Cool" (I'll be mailing off a royality check as soon as I'm done typing this) type of flicks. Instead it turned into a competition to prove how much cooler you were than all the other geeks. "Look at me, I'm so cool that nothing is cool to me! All these crappy directors wish they had half the insight I do as to how to make a cool movie! I will spend countless hours shitting on everything to prove to the world & myself that I am indeed cool!" Well here's what I have to say to all of these type of moderns geeks: FUCK YOU!!! Yeah it's that simple, nothing clever or interesting, just a simple FUCK YOU!!! Instead of going out and supporting films like Grindhouse or Shoot Em Up, you let them die a quick death at the theaters & then complain about how movie studios only produce films for the mainstream. So don't forget to take that FUCK YOU with you before you leave, there's plenty to go around.
Tarantino directs fucking CSI but passes on HEROES? by SpyGuy	Sep 18th, 2007 02:25:36 PM
Fine with me. Get Rodriguez for an episode instead, because his style fits the series better and at least something will actually happen.
bloodstained king by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 02:41:12 PM
Your argument doesn't make sense. True there is a lot of bashing simply for bashing's sake that goes on here, but if you read the posts, most of these people went and saw the movie. We supported the movie. Most of us are QT fans wondering what in the hell happened to the man who made Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. Being a geek doesn't mean you have to love every single movie these guys make just because it's there. Death Proof was one of the laziest pieces of filmmaking I've ever seen. Tarantino is still my favorite director, but I'd like to see him try a little bit harder next time.
kill bill by Halfbreedqueen	Sep 18th, 2007 02:42:43 PM
isnt the full version coming out in November?
Orionsangels by Trooperof3	Sep 18th, 2007 02:43:50 PM
what you wrote really makes me anxious to watch the movie when i get out of work
zoe bell is the star by LORDRANDO	Sep 18th, 2007 02:46:30 PM
I just saw it for the first time and besides her and Kurt Russell it was absolute drivel. Q needs to realize not every actor can pull of the rhythms of his " witty" dialogue. Most of the acting made me cringe.
Quentin's "strong" women by LORDRANDO	Sep 18th, 2007 02:48:24 PM
I find this a little tired after kill bill. I mean, what is Q into? Women's feet, and girls who can fight. Thats not masogonistic? Geez, how bout a strong female character that doesnt pander to male sensibilities. Fucking boring if u ask me.
DerLanghaarige: by Kabukiman	Sep 18th, 2007 02:55:08 PM
Fair enough on the point that the Coens' dialogue is cleverer and more original than when Tarantino steals dialogue from other movies, but do you really think that the beginning of Dogs is the only original dialogue Tarantino has done? I mean come on, there are some great conversations in Pulp Fiction that were clever and original. They may seem tired and cliche now, since people have been aping his style for 15 years, but look at the foot massage convo, the royale with cheese convo, the whole interation with Vincent and Mia. Hell, I think there's a lot of terrific dialogue in DP (particularly the second half). People hate the diner scene, but I think it's excellent. It sets up pretty much everything that happens from there on out. It shows character, foreshadowing, the relationships of all the characters. Sure, some people whine about how talky all the "bitches" and "cunts" are, but it's four girls talking. Should they sound like Keitel, Madsen, Tierney and Buscemi do? (Not directed at you, just part of my rant.) Furthermore, I love the people bitching about how much they wanted the girls (particularly in the first half) to die. Everyone knows that this is Tarantino's version of a slasher right? Is anyone here familiar with slasher movies? One of the things people love about slashers is that the killer is cool and the victims are annoying people who you WANT to see killed. Wow, Tarantino really dropped the ball, didn't he? Meh, I don't feel like typing anymore. Suffice to say that I really liked Death Proof, thought it was much more interesting and inventive than PT (which was decent entertainment, but completely throwaway) and that boring is the LAST word I'd use to describe it.
hah by Kabukiman	Sep 18th, 2007 02:59:20 PM
"(none of the actresses were even born when that movie came out, and yes, I realize they could have seen it on video, but I doubt they would have)" I suppose it's very easy to hate dialogue when you don't even bother to listen to it...
IVe figured it out... by LORDRANDO	Sep 18th, 2007 03:00:11 PM
Tarantino has become P Diddy, recklessly sampling all his faves into average films that non cinephiles think are new....Worst ending ever....Build up a great villan only to emaculate him by some foul mouthed sluts.
Harry and Zoe picture by Garbageman33	Sep 18th, 2007 03:01:09 PM
Maybe instead of giving him more DVDs he doesn't need, the studios should chip in and buy Harry some eyebrows.
Yes, all the hot chicks I know talk like... by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 03:02:10 PM
40 year old movie nerds. That is sooo realistic. Props, QT. You have truly captured what it is to be a young hot 20-something woman. Bravo.
What also annoyed me by turketron	Sep 18th, 2007 03:04:18 PM
Count me in with the other assholes who was waiting for the second set of chicks to die. Hell, they were MORE annoying than the first set! We are shown the grizzly and awesome scene of Mike getting a KILLTACULAR, and are in anticipation of the next kill to be even more gruesome and brutal than the first... but it never comes. Gay.
Proof that the dialogue sucked by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 03:09:51 PM
How many lines of dialogue can you recite from Death Proof? We can all name a shitload of great quotes from the old Tarantino movies, but how many lines from Death Proof can you quote verbatim? Seriously.
"I even kind of like JACKIE by lucky slevin	Sep 18th, 2007 03:18:19 PM
"I even kind of like JACKIE BROWN in a "I'll probably never actually sit through it again" sort of way, " by Cruel_Kingdom.. kindom how can you claim to be tarantinos biggest fan and not even recognize the cinematic genius that is Jackie Brown. There's not a scene in that entire movie that i would change. you have to realize its about subtilties. every actor/ress is just right for their part. i couldnt pick a favorite character if i tried. when i first watched it years ago, my buddy said he he thought Louis (deniro) was actually mr. pink years later, an assumption i quickly dismissed because i know that Brown takes place in a different universe than the vega brothers moslty untold saga's world of reservior and pulp ( i think tarantino should consider writing a vega brothers novel by the way) . anyway s "Accept no substitutes"
Stuntman Mike - new intro by fatdrunkandstupid	Sep 18th, 2007 03:20:35 PM
This new scene alone is the reason why I won't buy Deathproof. Stuntman Mike's original intro, where you don't know where this guy is coming from, was forkin' brilliant. Seeing him cackle over photos will change the whole dynamic and shock reveal of his "true" intentions. Gonna wait fer GRINDHOUSE. And now I'm pissed that I have to.
no double dvd as the big Q wanted... by theonecalledshoe	Sep 18th, 2007 03:25:13 PM
shakes head though, it would have been cool if Tarintino had been on trek as a Q (or even gets called Mr. T for that matter. Those two should work together or heck he could pop up in a video game )
lucky_slevin by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 03:27:02 PM
I think Jackie Brown is a cool movie, but I don't think it holds up like the previous films. And maybe it's just that I've seen it a million times...
Deathproof: Not hate-proof by morganmorgan	Sep 18th, 2007 03:57:03 PM
Well-- I saw it. I got it. And I liked it... a lot. And I'll be bringing home the DVD ASAP. (And the new Criterion Two Lane Blacktop in December!)
Did I miss something? by Shepard Wong	Sep 18th, 2007 03:58:27 PM
I thought Zoe Bell's dialogue delivery was laugh out loud bad. It completely pulled me out of the movie and ruined Death Proof for me. I may rent it just to see if I was in some F'd up Kiwi/Aussie (whatever the hell she is) hating fit. I was really into the first half of Death Proof but she just killed it for me.
I fucked with the wrong Mexican :( by wintocha67	Sep 18th, 2007 04:10:10 PM
I loved Death Proof since first hearing about it and the car is still the background on my cell phone and I want this DVD.
better by johnnysunshine	Sep 18th, 2007 04:10:43 PM
the more I thought about grindhouse, the more I felt that Deathproof was the better of the two films, though I thought they were both awesome. I want to own this, but I'm not gonna buy it since I know the full shebang is coming eventually. Actually, this is a pretty annoying release.
Fun by doctor_gonzo	Sep 18th, 2007 04:15:36 PM
You missed the word "fun" in the last sentence of your intro Moriarty.
this movie fuckin sucked by t40stunt	Sep 18th, 2007 04:18:48 PM
enough said
Good review, Vern. Oh and I love Death Proof, too. by a goonie	Sep 18th, 2007 04:33:13 PM
Definitely one of my favourite movies of the year so far. I can understand why some might not like it. If you don't care about the characters and hate scenes of nothing but average chit-chat, then I can imagine the movie would be a complete bore. But I actually really cared about the characters and enjoyed spending time with them immensely, witnessing how much fun they were having and how much they appreciated each other's company. They felt like real girls to me, girls being girls when they're out spending a night together. And I loved that. And I loved that Tarantino so effectively evoked a playful vibe that made me want to stay in this simple little world of girls chit-chatting and drinking and just plain being themselves. But then Stuntman Mike shows up and, suddenly, this playful little world shows a glimpse of a dark side, of something sinister boiling beneath the surface. By the time Mike showed up, I was along for the ride. So I settle in for a fun, scary adventure where Mike terrorizes the girls and mayhem ensues. But the movie takes an unexpected turn, killing off the gang of girls in brutal fashion, and showing us just how bad Stuntman Mike really is. What follows is more great setup that brought me back to the playful place the movie started in, only to suddenly unleash some of the most spectacular car chase footage I have ever seen. And because I cared about these girls, because Tarantino and his talented group of actresses had taken the time to make me care about them, I'm not only along for the ride, I'm on the edge of my seat hoping they can make it out the other end in one piece. So that's why I love Death Proof so much. It's a tight package that packs a punch in an unexpected manner.
What's wrong with liking womens feet??? by Orionsangels	Sep 18th, 2007 04:33:30 PM
Me, me and KG, It's all about sex supreme, We likes to cream jeans. Have you ever been worked on by two guys who are hot for your snatch? That's what I'm offerin' you. You step into our room, And then you smell the perfume, You lay upon our roundish bed, And then you feel a tickling on your head. It's KG with the feather and the French tickler, Look out baby he got the tools. And then you feel sumpin' down by your feet. It's me, it's JB, I'm suckin' upon your toes. We don't mind sucking on toes! Good luck finding a boyfriend who sucks toe, ow! Havin' sex with me and KG, Now you're talkin' double team supreme.
Oscar nomination for Kurt Russell by Orionsangels	Sep 18th, 2007 04:34:45 PM
I called it!
Licking his finger then touching it to Abernathy's foot by Kalel13	Sep 18th, 2007 04:37:40 PM
we saw that cause Abernathy experiences an awakening to her inner badass in the flick, then not so ironically delivers the coupe de gras to Stuntman Mike with the very foot he was fiddling with.
t40stunt by Vern	Sep 18th, 2007 04:39:32 PM
Okay, you convinced me.
Bullpoo!!! by Orionsangels	Sep 18th, 2007 04:45:11 PM
"supposedly didn't fit the "grindhouse" theme it was advertised under." to those who said that, just watch the Vanishing Point trailer, nuff said. http://tinyurl.com/36foom
the point of DP by clever_reference	Sep 18th, 2007 04:46:24 PM
Okay, first, Tattooed Billionaire you are missing the point entirely: Ozu was making different kinds of films than QT. QT promised me a grindhouse experience instead his half of this experience turned out to be ABOUT grindhouse cinema and not at all representative of grindhouse cinema. Planet Terror felt like a real grindhouse picture EXCEPT for the lack of gratuitous nudity and the presence of Bruce Willis who was distracting. Death Proof is like a really long and boring term paper. I GET IT! It does not take a film degree to GET IT. Did I enjoy it? NOT AT ALL ON ANY LEVEL. There are plenty of things I understand intellectually but that does not make them "good" or "enjoyable." And the Weinsteins never stop do they? A lifetime or recutting and rescoring and retitling and dubbing Hong Kong films. And now they are shafting the fans again by releasing these films separately. The whole point of GRINDHOUSE was in its total experience. Hey, guess what? The trailers were truer grindhouse than either feature. So what do I, the consumer, get? Nothing. The Weinsteins and QT have completely and totally lost the plot. Dragon Dynasty is supposedly releasing things properly but I am still skeptical.
jackie brown is his 2nd best film by slappy jones	Sep 18th, 2007 04:48:55 PM
and heroes is complete horsehit. how can anyone stomach that fucking show. its truly truly awful.
PS by clever_reference	Sep 18th, 2007 04:50:03 PM
Grindhouse the film was about as relevant as a 17-year-old wearing an expensive vintage 1970s Ramones concert t-shirt. The corporate appropriation of genuine subversive, non-corporate entertainment made safe for the largest portion of the mainstream. Guess what? Some of us know as many weird references as QT. Hell, some of us saw those films in the theater WAY before he saw them in his little video store in California. QT didn't make Vanishing Point cool. He is riding its coolness.
oriongsangels by wookie1972	Sep 18th, 2007 04:53:22 PM
Who are you talking to? I didn't say that Vanishing Point wasn't "grindhouse," I wrote that it made no sense that the women were talking about it, even a stuntwoman. It was, as someone said, a 40something screenwriter putting words in the mouths of young women, and it didn't seem realistic at all.
QT by clever_reference	Sep 18th, 2007 05:04:48 PM
I found the dialogue of DP to be unbelievable on almost any level other than as something to be used to write a thesis. I mean, real grindhouse films had memorable -- usually bad or offensive or whatever -- but not as obvious as DP. I like Family Guy, but DP has the same sickness: mistaking a reference for a point. Just namedropping or referencing something great does not make you or your work great. Look at all the Miramax films about people: Beatrix Potter, Virgina Woolf, etc. Rather than step up and make something great on that level, people reference what was already great. Family Guy is very guilty of this BUT...BUT it is still funny and concise and only 22 minutes at a time. DP was intolerable for its arrogance. I respect QT for making something that dense and putting it out in mainstream America. But it was not grindhouse and was not fun if you ask me. I resent being promised a grindhouse film and instead getting something else entirely that did not work on any level. At the end of the day, for all the success QT exhibits in making this thesis of a film, it still does not really deliver even on those terms. You just go, "and?"
Watching it now... by TheRealSeveren	Sep 18th, 2007 05:05:47 PM
I went to the premiere and ended up seeing GH 4 times in the theatres with different friends and family. Im realizing again that DP is one of the most watchable movies for me in recent memory. I could start it over and watch it again when this car chase is done. Ive refrained from watching the extended cut print until today and I am definitely enjoying the extra scenes that add a few more connections the way that good movies do. "Zoe the fuckin cat!" By the way, I respect all of you.
the "strong" women in Death Proof by CherryValance	Sep 18th, 2007 05:07:34 PM
Actually that is one of the things that did bother me about this movie. I thought the females in this film were pretty wretched and deserved to be annihilated by Mike. Firstly the group who couldn't act treated him like shit. And then the next batch treated each other like shit. When they left that one cheerleader broad to be forcibly sodomized or worse so that they could drive a freakin' car, they lost me. I was hoping that Stuntman Mike would bring Hell down upon them, but no, somehow they got "revenge" that they didn't really deserve.
Jackie Brown is a GREAT film AND it's a true grower. by future help	Sep 18th, 2007 05:08:53 PM
Like Big Lebowski, Fargo and Life Aquatic are masterful growers.
Vern! Vern-o! by Zarles	Sep 18th, 2007 05:10:44 PM
Your Transformers review was a nitpicky, whiny, incredibly overlong softball lobbed underhand directly into the cheap seats where all the TINO crowd were sitting with oversized fielders' mitts strapped to their heads. Not one of your best, amigo. I'm not sure I understand all the Death Proof hate from this crowd, actually. Seems like it would be the closest most of you will ever get to talking to a girl, so why all the bitchin'?
This is a great fucking film! by El Scorcho	Sep 18th, 2007 05:15:23 PM
Fuck the haters. I'm sorry that you have no attention span. It's intense build-up with an amazing climax. A slow burn.
a good way to "fix/redeem" the scene of the girls by future help	Sep 18th, 2007 05:17:30 PM
leaving their "friend" behind with the rapist...IS...when the movie ends, SPOILERS(the big laugh when Kurt is being stomped on.)Add another 12 secs to the end, girl says to anther "Now let's shoot em'" other girl replies "I left the gun with Jenny, so she could shoot that rapist." (edit/cut to) see the rapist get shot in the face. THE END credits roll. -SAY THAT WAS EASY, NOW IM QT.
mode_7 by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu	Sep 18th, 2007 05:35:12 PM
At least it's not as bad as the whole QFT/This phenomenon. Yes, quoting someone else's post and then stating your agreement without further argument really adds to the discussion. What is the point? It's been going on for years and it needs to stop!!!
Harry's HD-DVD Player = DEATHPROOF by Internet Thug	Sep 18th, 2007 06:27:24 PM
No matter what shit the fat fuck puts in there it just keeps on tickin'
I liked it! 'Braapp!' by Mockingbuddha	Sep 18th, 2007 06:55:41 PM
Whenever I read these arguments about Death Proof I have to add my vote to the loved it side. Everyone's common complaint is my favorite part. I loved watching the women sit around talking. I actually liked that the dialogue was less clever than QT's other movies. I also love movies where you can just settle in and watch people live their lives before they get all messed up. Someone mentioned that it was obvious that QT adored all of these actresses, I agree, and I adored them as well. The actresses were so cool that sometimes I forget that Kurt Russell was even in the movie. But then I remember and it strikes me that this is one awesome movie. I was afraid that QT would turn out a movie that was too grindhouse, but to me he just made another great movie. It didn't kick me in the face the way Pulp Fiction did the first time I saw it, but nearly.
Death Proof was infinitely better than Planet Terror by Dannychico	Sep 18th, 2007 07:07:13 PM
And if you think otherwise, you might be a hopeless fanboy with pedestrian tastes.
"Death Proof" est cinéma étonnant by lensproject	Sep 18th, 2007 07:35:16 PM
Put me down with the French in the "loved DP" column. Saw it twice in the theaters (and yes, opening night was a packed house in NYC, that applauded afterwards) and I'm happy to buy this and any other DVD they make, just to support this type of risky filmmaking. (Although I'm disappointed in the addition of the new Mike reveal.) Short-attention-span American mongoloids will not convince me of anything, so don't bother.
The attention this film has by PatsFanDK	Sep 18th, 2007 07:57:37 PM
The attention this film has gotten on this site is embarrassing. Noone will face the facts that it sucked, plain and simple. And I'm a fan of his other films. It's like everyone is refusing to face the reality of a shitty QT film. Newsflash - it's a shitty QT film. Feel free to waste money on the DVD, suckas.
Well, probably not as good as the films by Kalel13	Sep 18th, 2007 08:08:07 PM
Bill Belichick has been illegally making all these years, but I really enjoyed Death Proof, and liked seeing it again on DVD. Also, I think Jackie Brown is one of hist best.
mode_7 by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:13:03 PM
Meh.
Death Proof es muy excemento by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:13:54 PM
Si.
er, exremento by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:14:09 PM
si.
It pains me to say this... by Angry Bald Guy	Sep 18th, 2007 08:14:09 PM
But I plan on buying this DVD. I didn't care for "Death Proof" but for the sake of trying to keep the double feature alive I will get both movies. And PatsFanDK you're half right: It sucked. But there are a few of us that are facing the fact. Lastly: WHERE THE HELL IS THE MACHETE DVD!!!!!
Miramax should break up FOUR ROOMS into separate films by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:22:24 PM
All the world is waiting to see a longer version of that shitty Allison Anders segment with the witches. We add more footage to the QT segment--then it would be like Death Proof: a lot of talking and no action building up to a quick ending which almost redeems all that has preceded it. Weinsteins, you're missing an opportunity here!
Jackie Brown suceeds where Death Proof fails by Spandau Belly	Sep 18th, 2007 08:23:05 PM
I kinda consider it a cheap shot from ol' Vern to say that he discounts the disappointment in Death Proof because the talkbackers here could only fault it by calling the characters sexist names like "cunts" and "bitches". I guess he's implying that everybody who disliked it is a sexist bastard who thinks that women in films should just strip and die. Well, I disliked Death Proof and it was in fact because the female characters were annoying, but also because there were long scenes with just them and no foil. It was like five Sammuel L. Jacksons sitting around a table. I actually liked the scenes where they interacted with Kurt Russel and I liked the stuff with Kurt and Rose McGowan (despite her sporting of the worst wig in history). Now take Jackie Brown. She was a fiesty aggressive female character, but I liked her because she didn't just hang out with four friends exactly like she. I mean, hell, she got out of jail, flirted with a bail bondsman, swiped his pistol and pressed against Sammuel L.'s dick all in one night. And she was just a stewardess, not a trained ninja type like Beatrix Kiddo. That was more assertive than the Death Proof ladies and I liked Jackie Brown. So I'm not just some sexist asshole who wants his ladies to take the Amy Smart role in Crank. I'm a guy who just doesn't like a Tarantino film for good reason. Believe me, the last thing I wanted was to be let down by Quentin, and especially for him to lose a film on the dialogue front was like seeing Bruce Lee get suckpunched by John Saxon. But for me the diversity in characters just wasn't there to make interesting scenes like in good ol' Jackie Brown. Anybody who wants to come over to my place and watch Jackie Brown, come on over in the next twenty minutes. You can smoke, but you just can't talk about Lost or Heroes. Agreed?
The movie was a box office disaster... by SnatchVagina	Sep 18th, 2007 08:26:17 PM
Grindhouse made all of 25 million at the domestic box office. That's good for #57 for the year and we're not even to the Holiday season yet. Notable movies that made more than Grindhouse: Nancy Drew, Epic Movie, Hannibal Rising, The Reaping, The Number 23, etc. I like how the author of the review points to the fact that theaters on the "outer edges" of the US were packed, sort of like he's insinuating that the rest of us "uncultured folk" be "too dum to git it!" Ummm, a majority of moviegoers (as well as the rest of the US population) are situated along "the outer edges" of the US, so if it supposedly did gangbusters there then it should NOT have ended up with only 25m. The truth is simply this: the movies were not exactly great, they did not click with audiences, and the thing failed at the box office. Period. Yes people, even the cinema-geek backed projects like GRINDHOUSE fail. Tarantino and Rodriguez are not film Gods. I equate this review to Harry's take on Jackson's KING KONG; how you could tell he knew it was a failure but just didn't want to admit it to himself.
"Outer edges" = the fly-over states by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:27:16 PM

I meant between the outer edges, lol by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:28:26 PM
All this Death Proof talk has fried my brain.
Most Fun I Had At The Movies All Year by skoobyx	Sep 18th, 2007 08:32:28 PM
If I may invoke a film critic cliche. 'Planet Terror' was enjoyable but this was definitely the highlight. Cool concept and that car crash scene was sick in all the right ways. I can see why people might not like it, but compared to something like 'I Now Pronounce You Chuck And Larry' it starts looking like genius.
Grindhouse TOGETHER was brilliant by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:34:30 PM
It's not Citizen Kane or Jules et Jim, but it was a great time at the cinema. Those trailers, the whole thing...I loved the experience. But neither one of the two shorts works particularly well as a film unto itself.
Loved Death Proof! Don't understand the hate. by Midol Boy	Sep 18th, 2007 08:36:17 PM
Oh, well. To each his own.
Tarantino needs to make Kill Shot. by Midol Boy	Sep 18th, 2007 08:42:16 PM
MAKE IT NOW!
No one is mentioning... by DanielKurland	Sep 18th, 2007 08:43:53 PM
The Russ Meyer connection. The ending of the movie is SO much like Faster Pussycat, Kill Kill, in my opinion. I then heard Tarantino even state that Death Proof is his take on a Russ Meyer film. You can mention the Psycho connection, and De Palma riffs, but Russ Meyer is what is going on in this film.
Midol Boy by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:50:23 PM
Kill Shot already got made. Tarantino produced, but didn't direct. It's sitting on the shelf right now. I think the trailer is on youtube, though.
Killshot trailer by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 08:53:42 PM
My mistake, it's not on youtube, but it is on the IMDB page.
I am watching Death Proof right now. by Barry Egan	Sep 18th, 2007 09:08:30 PM
I love it.
Death Proof fuckin' rocked, bottom line. by Sulla	Sep 18th, 2007 09:37:08 PM
It's pathetic that garbage, and I mean utter garbage, like Transformers gets so much praise from people. Then a unique piece of cinema comes along like Death Proof, and people whine about "too much talking". Are you fucking serious? Too much talking?? It's what QT does best in my opinion, and it's brilliant stuff. But, if you're just into mindless explosions and bad directing/writing...keep your training wheels on and continue watching your kiddie flicks, those of us with taste will keep supporting & watching real films.
you had me at snakehearted fuckers... by darwinmayflower	Sep 18th, 2007 10:00:24 PM
nice review.
kill bill by Halfbreedqueen	Sep 18th, 2007 10:04:22 PM
i heard it was november 6th and not december. who knows.
jackie brown by maluquiro	Sep 18th, 2007 10:05:18 PM
is a masterpiece.
maluquiro by Sulla	Sep 18th, 2007 10:44:24 PM
Agreed. Jackie Brown is brilliant.
Re: the ending by AngelCordy	Sep 18th, 2007 10:44:34 PM
The last ten minutes of Death Proof made every woman in my theater start cheering. Boo yah.
Death Proof by Gould as Marlowe	Sep 18th, 2007 10:48:30 PM
I saw Grindhouse opening night in SF and the place was packed. The audience was with it from start to finish. It was a great movie going experience. I walked out thinking "Well, this is clearly a hit. It's so nice to see movies I enjoy get thit kind of reaction." How wrong I was. Everyone I know loved it and I think it did business in the major cities but the small town, middle American audiences probably didn't cotton to it. I loved Death Proof. I thought it was the better of the two. Tarantino's dialogue is getting creaky and self indulgent but I really appreciated the slow build, the lived in atmosphere, the 2 narrative swerves, and the brilliant car chase climax. Besides that, I think Stuntman Mike is a classic Kurt Russell character/performance. Zoe completely won me over and this is the first film where I didn't hate Rosario Dawson. This is my second favorite Tarantino film after Jackie Brown.
"second favorite Tarantino film after Jackie Brown"? by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 10:50:38 PM
Um, are you smoking crack?
"second favorite Tarantino film after Jackie Brown"? by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 10:56:12 PM
Or as Tarantino himself might say, "Nigga, is you trippin'?"
jackie brown by maluquiro	Sep 18th, 2007 11:22:11 PM
to me, jackie brown had an emotional core that is missing from most of his films. it's his only film where the characters seem like real people. a lot of it comes from robert forster and pam grier of course. i seriously love every frame of that movie.
Better on it's own by TheThirdMan	Sep 18th, 2007 11:37:57 PM
I saw Grindhouse in theaters three times, and had a goddamn great time with each viewing, as did the audience. However, there was no doubt that while (in my opinion) Death Proof was the better film, it did slow the overall experience down quite a bit. Having viewed it on DVD, I think it is a lot easier to enjoy on it's own merits, without having Planet Terror to compare it to.
"I'm the world's biggest Tarantino Fan" by Jed	Sep 18th, 2007 11:46:08 PM
"I even sort of liked Jackie Brown" you don't get to be a tarantino fan if you don't have a lasting appreciation for Jackie Brown. Sorry. Discarding Jackie Brown means you've ignored everything he was trying to say in his first two movies. I hope QT will make a film better than Jackie Brown one day, but I doubt it.
Jed by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 11:51:51 PM
QT's already made three films that are better than Jackie Brown, so your wish has come true! Good job!
Jackie Brown is fucking brilliant. by Gilkuliehe	Sep 18th, 2007 11:53:33 PM
What the hell is wrong with you people? And to those fuckers who say Tarantino is a hack. Again: What the hell is wrong with you? Ok, the guy talks out of his ass, annoys the fuck out of you and all you want, but come on. Craftsmanship. That's the key word. The guy can direct. The first car crash in Death Proof? The way he synchronizes with the music, the build up, and then the way the stunt and the killings are filmed. Even you whiners can see how freaking talented the guy is. Can't you? Fuck you very much.
Is this a Jackie Brown talkback? by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 18th, 2007 11:55:23 PM

TIFF!!!! Kurt Russell is the man. by J-Dizzle	Sep 18th, 2007 11:57:38 PM
Easily one of his best roles.
Actually the "world's biggest QT fan" is by Cruel_Kingdom	Sep 19th, 2007 12:03:55 AM
Tarantino himself.
Sucked. Period by TheRevenge	Sep 19th, 2007 12:19:36 AM
I wanted so much to love this film. Enjoyed Planet Terror for being the light-hearted, "GRINDHOUSE" fluff that it was SUPPOSED TO BE! Deathproof simply wasn't. It was lame and QT lost his image halfway through. Why did the scratchy film stop scratching, fanboys? No excuse for that, eh? Yeah..didn't think so. Puh-lease. The only reason people like this movie is simply because some people like thinking they are better than everyone else for not "getting it". Well, you guys are just as pathetic as the guys I knew who went to film school and make shitty films with people yammering on for no reason, about nothing. You only like movies that other people hate simply because you hate the other people. Ugh. Enjoy your shitty, pointless movie. QT owes me an apology. Fucking sad.
Cruel_Kingdom by maluquiro	Sep 19th, 2007 12:22:58 AM
yes it is, until the greatness of jackie brown is acknowledged.
therevenge by maluquiro	Sep 19th, 2007 12:25:04 AM
what's the big deal if it stops? i don't get it. after a while it got to distracting, so he eased out of it and got on with the movie.
Hey by Orionsangels	Sep 19th, 2007 12:26:30 AM
I'm glad Trooperof3! No wookie1972 I referring to something Vern said in his review.
Anyone know when we get the fake trailers? by Zeke25:17	Sep 19th, 2007 12:35:29 AM
Will they be on Planet Terror's disc; or do we have to wait for the double dip version? I DID notice that the Death Proof dvd came with a coupon for five bucks off PT, which I thought was kinda cool...Hell, I know these things are gonna be released almost as much as either Army of Darkness or any of the LOTRs, and honestly, it doesn't bother me--I enjoyed both films for what they were, and concede that most consumers out there wouldn't be too keen on watching both films back to back...I WOULD like those trailers, though. Even better: Wright has to make "Don't", and Roth has to do "Thanksgiving". (We already know that Machete is coming, I believe this Xmas, straight to dvd...)
the deleted black and white scene by bernard	Sep 19th, 2007 12:50:11 AM
was unnecessary. the hour and twenty minute cut in theaters was fun. the two hour dvd cut is exhausting. cool earl mcgraw extension though.
Re: the black and white scene by Zeke25:17	Sep 19th, 2007 01:00:27 AM
It was at least PARTLY necessary, because it establishes 1) This is how and where Stuntman Mike starting to stalk this particular group of girls, and 2) Mike is a helluva lot creepier here than he showed at the bar. It's no accident that most posters at AICN when discussing Death Proof mention that they were rooting for Russell's character to kill the girls; the simple reason is that, even after killing Rose McGowan in his car, he still seems strangely likeable, especially compared to the annoying and grating females that the viewer is supposed to feel sorry for! Any additional scene that makes him more of a "bad guy" is necessary for the end of DP to seem warranted.
i fell asleep at the premier. by mrvannostrand	Sep 19th, 2007 01:05:32 AM
i went to see grindhouse at manns chinese theatre in los angeles on the saturday night of the opening weekend. planet terror rocked! the crowd was so vocal and into the whole movie. when death proof came on my wife and i fell asleep during the monotonous ramblings of those moronic girls. tarantino has fallen in love with his material to the point where he can no longer be subjective about it. everyone around him must kiss his ass because i saw him on conan proclaiming he's a 'great writer'. at first i thought that's cool that someone has the balls to say that and based on his first three directorial efforts i would agree. however, he has suffered a terrible setback with deathproof. it is a self indulgent piece of jack off material by someone who can't step back and be objective of their own work.
Stuck on Halo 3 by LittleDudes	Sep 19th, 2007 01:42:03 AM
Peeps are rockin' it, and I'm not one of them! http://tinyurl.com/ytkeeg Fucking cunts.
Re: Re: the black and white scene by bernard	Sep 19th, 2007 02:02:53 AM
in response to #1, i think the audience clearly understands that Mike is stalking the new group of girls when it originally cut to him taking the photos in the theatrical version, plus to me the choice to cut the gas station scene out was stronger because you don't leave mike for so long. i wanted more stuntman mike but that's just me. and #2, i did like that he licked Rosario's foot, but why did she have to smoke almost a whole fucking cigarette in that shot just to see him speed away? it just slowed it down too much for me. i think that you are right about more creepy scenes with Mike being necessary, i just don't consider a throwaway scene about an Italian Vogue magazine being creepy Mike stuff.
Fuck the double feature! by Motoko Kusanagi	Sep 19th, 2007 02:43:55 AM
I don't see how these 2 entertaining movies are not good any more just because they're released seperately. I also don't give a damn if those crappy fake trailers are included or not. Morons.
Tarantino Dropped the Ball.. by s8ntmark	Sep 19th, 2007 02:48:23 AM
So Quentin says to Rodriguez: "Ok, so , like, Robert, like, lets make, like, a TOTALLY amazing Grind House, like, Double feature, k?" And Rodriguez is like "coo' Quentin..Ok" and he goes out and makes the damn Grindhouse film. Blood, breasts, Zombies...just a fun night at the movies....Nothing too deep. Then Tarantino suddenly decides he doesnt want to make a grindhouse film after all and goes out and makes the same kind of films he ALWAYS makes, and fucks up the formula he SUGGESTED! Im sure Quentin thinks he turned the genre on its head, but instead he screwed the whole thing up and made a very uneven double feature...I'll agree, Death Proof is a better FILM...but its like bringing a gun to a knife fight, a FILM has no place in a Grindhouse exploitation double feature. Stuntman Mike kills people with his CAR, people should have been splattered and run over and stalked throughout this thing, and instead we get a Grindhouse/French New Wave rip-off...whatever...
Death Proof - Why people hate it by Ted_Naifeh	Sep 19th, 2007 02:52:11 AM
From a film student point of view, there's one very good reason why folks didn't like Death Proof, didn't consider it a real movie, thought the female characters were lame bitches, didn't appreciate the coolness of Zoe Bell. And it's all Tarantino's fault. Basically, the film simply doesn't have the all important act two climax. It just blends from act two (Introduce Zoe and the girls) to act three (Zoe and the girls go after SM Mike) without any emotional upheaval. The decision to go after Mike should have been a supremely powerful, all or nothing, "We're not who we think we are if we don't go after this guy!" moment it needed to be. Zoe's fake death should have been more devastating, more believable. It should have freaked the audience out. Instead, we knew she would be fine. THe movie had been all mood and terror, and then suddenly it became kinda silly. I really wanted to be involved in the girls' rage, but the movie locked me out of it. That's why the climax was a let down, that's why so few people walked away satisfied. The only folks who seem to like the movie are the ones who chose to fill in that emotional gap with their imaginations, or were just impressed with the car chases. Personally, it makes me sad, because but for a key scene, it could have been such an amazing film. Oh yeah, and about 20 minutes of useless dialog.
Spandau/SnatchVagina double feature by Vern	Sep 19th, 2007 04:22:22 AM
SPANDAU: You read me wrong bud. "I didn't take alot of you seriously because you were calling the characters bitches and cunts, [here is the important part---->] but there were plenty of reasonable people who didn't like it." My point was the exact opposite of what you're saying. My point was to ignore the obvious yahoo dipshits and address the people with legitimate points like yours. And I'm with you, JACKIE BROWN is a great movie. I love DEATH PROOF too but it is my least favorite of Tarantino's directorial works so far. The dialogue in DEATH PROOF may not stand up to JACKIE BROWN, but I disagree about the characters not having anyone to play off of, especially in the second half. They have Lee (the cheerleader) who is not on the same wavelength, she doesn't get their jokes or references, she falls for their tricks. To me one of the biggest laughs is when Kim mentions PRETTY IN PINK in a negative way and Lee without any irony coos "oh, I love Pretty in Pink!" How are they not playing off each other? SNATCHVAGINA: Listen up fucker. Er, I mean, hello friend. Let me explain it to you. I don't feel it's that hard of a sentence to understand but here you go. I was making a joke about the fact that, as freako box office obsessed weiners like you have noted, and as I wrote in the review, GRINDHOUSE failed to make money for the assholes who released it. I was playing off that. I can't say that the DVD should be the same as the movie that played to packed houses across the country, so instead I hedged it to "the outer edges of the country." (I also can't say "around the word", because it wasn't released as a double feature in the rest of the world.) At the time the Weinsteins claimed that it was doing well on the coasts and they just needed to figure out how to make it do well in the rest of the country. I am not an accountant or a perverted money fetishist so I don't know if their figures are accurate. I do believe them because here in Seattle it was indeed shown to packed houses, and just about everyone I know saw it multiple times (including in drive-ins, which I wish I did). Others in this talkback have noted similar occurrences in their cities. So it seems believable. So no, I was not making any sort of inference about the other parts of the country, I was just noting the documented fact that it did poorly in most of the country. You are proud to point that shit out so don't attack me for doing it too. And stop being paranoid. That's what happens when you spend all your time counting money. You said "The truth is simply this: the movies were not exactly great, they did not click with audiences, and the thing failed at the box office. Period." Well no, that's not it "period." As I said in the review: yes, it lost money, yes, it was unpopular with talkbackers, and no, I do not give two shits about those things. If a movie "didn't click with audiences" and you still love it then fuck the unclickable audiences, YOU like the movie, that's what's important. I liked the movie, I explained why, I bought the DVD, I still enjoyed it, I wrote about. If you are a movie fan you understand how it works. yours, the author of the review
We need "Thanksgiving" doubled with "Machete" dammit by Mike_D	Sep 19th, 2007 04:29:05 AM
that is all.
what's wrong with being a "perverted money fetishist"? by Lost Jarv	Sep 19th, 2007 04:50:59 AM
If you send me some money I can arrange for any fetish you want. Short of seriously sick things. oh.... You meant losers that sit on a stained mattress rubbing themselves with 1 dollar bills whilst reciciting last weekends box office figures. Oh well, never mind
Snatchvagina by Nivek666	Sep 19th, 2007 06:03:02 AM
"I equate this review to Harry's take on Jackson's KING KONG; how you could tell he knew it was a failure but just didn't want to admit it to himself." Um, you mean "failure" in that YOU didn't like it? Because otherwise, Jacksons Kong was actua

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