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Knightsong Says DRAGON WAR Is Part MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE (1987), Part GINO, And All Bad!!

looked shite, what a surprise by bongo123	Sep 13th, 2007 08:12:40 AM
ooo first, arnt i fucking special
FIRST by originalskoobx	Sep 13th, 2007 08:13:53 AM
To not see this.
see, covered myself there.... by originalskoobx	Sep 13th, 2007 08:14:37 AM
as I just knew I would not truely be first.
no way by Romoehlio	Sep 13th, 2007 08:18:08 AM
am i?
no, i`m not.... by Romoehlio	Sep 13th, 2007 08:18:37 AM
knew it
Special Effects good? by skimn	Sep 13th, 2007 08:22:39 AM
From what I've seen of the trailer they look like cutscenes from a Playstation2 game. And I love the D-War name..."Hey I'm headin' out to Mickey-D's then catchin' D-War.."
my friend actually wants to see this... by Datascream	Sep 13th, 2007 08:24:30 AM
mainly because it has Dragons in it, and that's pretty much the only reason he wants to see it. It looks like B Quality fun however. Mainly for heckeling it to death MST3K style. I "might" give it a rental, or just laugh at it when I see it in the bargin bin at Wal*Mart. I'm sure it'll be there a month after it's release tomorrow.
Porno with plot? by Midol Boy	Sep 13th, 2007 08:32:11 AM
What's the point?
The only reason anyone thought this might be cool... by Abin Sur	Sep 13th, 2007 08:39:48 AM
...was because that teaser poster was pretty geeky cool. Although this movie couldn't be any worse than Dragonheart.
I´ll watch this tomorrow by CuervoJones	Sep 13th, 2007 08:40:33 AM
I don´t expect The Host, but i check anything with dragons.
I'm seeing it Sunday night and looking forward to it by slone13	Sep 13th, 2007 08:45:35 AM
I gotta do SOMETHING while my lady watches Tell Me You Love Me. Talk about porno with a plot, THAT shit was awful.
Fuck this review, the movie was great fun. by Motoko Kusanagi	Sep 13th, 2007 08:46:50 AM
Nuff said.
7 Million Koreans Can't Be Wrong by godoffireinhell	Sep 13th, 2007 08:46:51 AM
FISH WAR in 2010!!
Reign of Fire..? by WickedMonster	Sep 13th, 2007 08:53:56 AM
Are you shittin me? Don't you compare that movie with this shite. REIGN OF FIRE was gold. Christian Bale, Matthew Mcconaughey.. That's just cool casting right there.
The antique shop . . . by Nice Marmot	Sep 13th, 2007 09:03:12 AM
. . . gave you a Garbage Pail Kids vibe? Not a Gremlins vibe? Will I post anything on here to avoid work or what?
Real dragons should be intelligent and talk by Osmosis Jones	Sep 13th, 2007 09:08:25 AM
You know that.
Plant!!! by kevinwillis.net	Sep 13th, 2007 09:21:22 AM
The new strategy for doing plants is to trash the movie in order to inspire contrarians to see it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Seriously by staticneuron	Sep 13th, 2007 09:29:51 AM
If you are looking for scenes to compare to other movies and films, you are going to find them. This movie is korean right? Is it really plausible that they have ripped off All of the movies you have seen?
Can't wait... by Philvis	Sep 13th, 2007 09:36:49 AM
I don't know which movie is going to be more exciting...this one or the 1-18 movie.
take away their nuclear ambitions, & this is the thanx? by W3bzpinn3r	Sep 13th, 2007 09:39:26 AM
I always thought this WAS a direct to TV movie, til I saw an ad on a bus... go figure.
re: osmosis by Lt. Kaffee	Sep 13th, 2007 09:41:40 AM
vintage talkback
Dragons that talk by skimn	Sep 13th, 2007 09:42:02 AM
must also sound like Sean Connery." Exshcuse me, there is a shity in Tokyo I musht deshtroy."
Looks like a SciFi Saturday Night Original Movie by indyjonez100	Sep 13th, 2007 10:40:39 AM
At least the commercials look like it
I thought this was a Korean film. by Barry Egan	Sep 13th, 2007 10:45:57 AM
I thought it had some connection to The Host. I guess not.
So bad... by HoboJuiceExplosion	Sep 13th, 2007 10:59:30 AM
...that it's destined to be a classic?! "Ask again later."
WooHoo... another GREAT candidate for... by Super Moo	Sep 13th, 2007 11:07:18 AM
Mike Nelson and company over at Rifftrax.com . They've already made a Riff Track for Eragon, so I'm sure Dragon War will provide even more MST3K style fun! Thank goodness for crap movies!
God, I hate "Nuff said" by Mister Man	Sep 13th, 2007 11:16:08 AM
It is so retarded. And folks, EVERY movie steals from other flicks. There are no really original shots left.
Credit where due by Harry Weinstein	Sep 13th, 2007 11:28:18 AM
The director's been busting his ass to get this made for the better part of the decade, on his own terms. Naysayers have been dismissing this film for years, saying it would never be completed, it would never be released (obviously it is), it would fail horribly if it was ever completed or released (it's an enormous box office smash back home in Korea), it'd never play in America (it's playing in America), it'd only be a limited release in the unlikely event it was ever released in America (EXPONENTIALLY the widest release ever for a Korean film in the US), and on, and on. Every step of the way with this thing, Hyung Rae Shim has defied predictions of failure. Is it a good movie? Probably not in any traditional sense, especially if you're a native English speaker. Is it a giant monster movie where LA gets fucked up by enormous armies of heavily armed mystical creatures. Unless the trailer is really misleading, yes. The director's geek credentials are impeccable, and he hired a lot of young, unproven-but-ambitious people to work on it. Indeed, this was in production so long that people who worked on this went off and worked on other projects (notably THE HOST), then came back and worked on D-WAR again once those films wrapped. Comparisons to Sci-Fi channel movies seem misplaced - that channel wishes its movies had effects this good or enough of a budget to shoot in LA. I can overlook the flaws this film will undoubtedly have, because it's the labor of love of one great big nerd and his loyal hand-assembled team of misfits, who didn't get where they are by paying undue attention to naysayers. I'm going to enjoy paying too much for a ticket to this film.
To rebute a few statements and comments by Knightsong	Sep 13th, 2007 11:40:11 AM
"Although this movie couldn't be any worse than Dragonheart" Oh yes it can...far worse. At least DragonHeart had some acting. These people are cardboard. There's also been some comments that I'm looking for movies to compare this to. Not at all. The images in this movie just leap out and say, Jurassic Park, or Godzilla, or Phantom Menace. And for all this guys hard work to get this movie done. Bravo...you completed your task. That doesn't mean it's worthwhile in the least. The plot is just a mess and poorly paced. There is some good imagery. But, all in all, this is just a bad movie. I was hoping this movie was a Korean import that we chopped up and re-filmed with some American actors, but from what I've been reading obviously not. It's just bad.
And yes, bring on the mother fucking FISH WAR by Harry Weinstein	Sep 13th, 2007 11:42:12 AM
The plot description of Shim's proposed follow-up FISH WAR makes D-WAR look like a sane, serious cautionary tale about the dangers of modern living. Unfortunately, I am told by people who speak Korean that he's planning to return to his famous comedy character of Young-Gu and do a parody of THE GODFATHER. Clearly he's in a position to do whatever he wants now - it's cool that he wants to do something different instead of immediately jumping into another huge budget FX movie. Then again if I'd spent most of the 00s working independently and largely out-of-pocket on something as large as D-WAR, I'd want a change of pace too... before declaring FISH WAR.
"A Veritable Patchwork Quilt of Filmmaking Shit." by Read and Shut Up	Sep 13th, 2007 11:44:23 AM
...the reviewer didn't SAY that, but admit it - it SOUNDS cool.
wow, supermoo.. by soup74	Sep 13th, 2007 11:59:45 AM
being an old school mst3k fan i didnt know rifftrax existed.. it seems like a dream come true.. mst3k doing riffs over movies sci fi or comedy central would never be able to afford. so then why am i hesitant to pay $3 a track? are they worth it?
The worst part about this movie by Series7	Sep 13th, 2007 12:06:10 PM
Is the fact that its getting a major release and will probably make some money. While movies like The Host, a movie were if you do not use this web site you probably would never see it (though is was reviewed on the Roper no thumbs show), because you had to go and find a movie theater playing it. Every theater is playing D-wars. Why is there never this big of a push for much better forign movies?? Pisses me off.
Thier War Our World by red_weed	Sep 13th, 2007 12:06:24 PM
i thought that was kinda the same as the first aliens vs predator film. Well, that's what I thought when i first saw the transformers one. Whoever win, we lose or whatever. Anyway, this film has dragons in it so i kinda have to see it but haha oh man it look awful. maybe in a good way, i hope so...
They already made "FISH WAR" by turketron	Sep 13th, 2007 12:53:12 PM
It was called, "Pirahna 2: The Spawning".
DRAGON WHORES by turketron	Sep 13th, 2007 12:54:35 PM
Who wants to bet this will be the name of a super awesome Asian porn flick? I'll watch...
just hope this doesn't taint the Temeraire possiblities by wharpua	Sep 13th, 2007 01:00:39 PM
I know that the Temeraire series may one day have Peter Jackson behind it, which will hopefully put all concerns to rest, but this thing's likely failure might make some dumb studio exec nervous about a 'Dragons in a Real World' setting.
bibbity bobbity boo by fireclown	Sep 13th, 2007 01:46:03 PM
I can't believe that serious consideration of plot has been brought to bear on this. It's a movie that has Dragons. WITH FRAKING ROCKET LAUNCHERS! I don't know what's gotten into you folks that you can't enjoy that at face value. We gots the makings of a damned fun Godzilla flick here, and you all turn into pompus art film types. And what's the deal with the word "shite" Does AICN filter the word shit? Shite looks pretentious. Stop it. And get off my lawn. 'Cause I'm hoping this flick is gonna be the shizenit.
the trailer shows a dinosaur army marching by liljuniorbrown	Sep 13th, 2007 02:00:55 PM
That looked kind of cool to me. Is that the bad guy army? The rip off of the Star Wars beast things the reviewer was so pissed about? If so I feel lied to man. The idea of dragons destroying a modern city and humans fighting back using dinosaurs with weapons mounted on them is a cool visual. I guess thats what I wanted to see and my mind filled in the blanks, stupid imagination.
The moment I saw the black comic sidekick... by MaxTheSilent	Sep 13th, 2007 02:07:36 PM
I knew this movie was doomed.
Pete's Dragon was good by slone13	Sep 13th, 2007 02:21:03 PM
...as Dragon movies go. And at least he didn't talk. At least not in English.
there were no dragons in LOTR by GavinVanDraven	Sep 13th, 2007 02:28:58 PM
i agree with Memories-Of-Murder there. the only dragon in that series was in The Hobbit.
Masters of the Universe by GavinVanDraven	Sep 13th, 2007 02:38:11 PM
dropped the ball in 87. wow, i wanted that movie to be good. i was 11 at the time and into He-Man (which now looks very GAY upon recent viewing. they should have filmed that movie entirely within its own universe. i hate it when movies about distant lands/planets or whatever use earth as a setting. obviously because of budget constraints. "i know its supposed to be some fantasy setting but, hey guys, lets film it in L.A. so we don't have to travel or build sets!" bloody wankers. He-Man to Skeletor, "I must break you"
This movie will be great by Larry of Arabia	Sep 13th, 2007 03:16:32 PM
to watch on TV some snowbound Saturday in two years when the internet is down.
What? This won't win an Oscar? by Forsakyn	Sep 13th, 2007 03:17:30 PM
I'll definitely rent it when it comes out. The movie looks so gonzo that I have to see it.
One thing I recall about Dragonslayer by skimn	Sep 13th, 2007 03:19:10 PM
besides Peter Macnichol's blondfro and the cool go-motion effects (and the great cinematography), was the fact that virgins were being sacrificed in a lottery system. Would not the young lasses been on a fuckspree not to have been selected??
This movie did well in Korea? by Fletch F. Fletch	Sep 13th, 2007 03:22:51 PM
I guess this finally proves that Asian cinema aficionados are completely fucking tasteless and unexplainable in their enjoyment of seriously bad film. I'm just glad the whole hoo-rah of asiafellatio is finally dying down. Because Ang Lee and John Woo are terrible filmmakers.
D-WAR is the JJ ABRAMS 01-18-08 secret project by WolfmanNards	Sep 13th, 2007 03:33:49 PM
you guys didn't know?
First THE HOST, and now this crap? Screw Korean... by Negative Man	Sep 13th, 2007 04:13:12 PM
...monster movies! Roger Corman must be thinking about spinning in his grave once he gets there. Spin. Spin. Spin. The Host was one of the most laugh out loud movies I've seen in a while. Albeit the first 10-15 minutes were good, the rest of the movie was a steaming pile perfect for MST3000. Who'd of ever thunk that Dragon Wars was going to be even remotely good? I don't even understand how any domestic studio looked at the movie and thought, "Wow! This...this looks great! Not TROLL 2 great, but GOULIES 2 great in the least! We need it!" Ooof.
Just one thing Dude... by biggles2_22	Sep 13th, 2007 04:14:17 PM
...do you have ta use all them curse words?
Err, what? by eastshore4	Sep 13th, 2007 04:14:22 PM
This movie looks incredibly stupid, no contest there... but Mr. Reviewer, you're making some terrible pulls with your "rip off" claims. By your logic, almost any movie could rip off another movie. ANYWAYS, I can't wait to see this. It looks like good dumb corny fun... plus, it's fun to see Showbox pronounced "Shoebox"
Sounds brilliant! by Womb2dooM	Sep 13th, 2007 04:19:04 PM
I'm so excited about this one! In related news I have Mammoth and Infested on their way from QuikFlix... Nuff said...
Good luck watching the trailer on the "official" site by Vi	Sep 13th, 2007 04:49:51 PM
I regularly get 1.2 MB/s download speeds elsewhere, but on their site? Forget it.
Looks ridiculous but damn it..... by knifeandfork	Sep 13th, 2007 05:52:46 PM
.... i really want to see this thing just to see how bad it is.Im a sucker for shitty films that involve giant mosters , and D war looks like it fits the bill.
Meh... by codymr	Sep 13th, 2007 06:01:35 PM
No interest in seeing this... but to each their own.
d-wars doing well in korea by darwinwins	Sep 13th, 2007 07:32:25 PM
the reason the movie is doing well in korea is cos of nationalistic pride. they know the movie's shit. you can't mask that fact; so instead, the director appealed directly to the national spirit. i hate the people in korea. i can't wait to leave. watch the movie drunk but get a bootleg somewhere. watch it with friends and enjoy every awful minute of it but for the love of christ, don't give it money.
Who yah GONNA CALL>>>???? by Boober	Sep 13th, 2007 10:00:49 PM
DRAGON BUSTERDS!!!
Oh and The Host... by Boober	Sep 13th, 2007 10:02:22 PM
was 49% Genius, 51% shi-iiiit.
Wienstien whats your frikkin point? by Filmrage	Sep 13th, 2007 11:18:00 PM
So what if the director tried hard. A shit movie is a shit movie. You don't mitigate your assesment of a movie just because the makers of it had a hard time. I live in Korea and most koreans went to see the movie out of national pride not appreciattion of the movie its self. Sure it was ambitious but still crap.
Capitalizing on TRANSFORMERS by mrdinky	Sep 13th, 2007 11:39:06 PM
That has to be the funniest thing I've read all week. I also got the TRANSFORMERS vibe from the previews. That's kinda like referencing BLOODRAYNE (or BLOODRAYNE 2!) for your vampire lore.
Retards. by Motoko Kusanagi	Sep 14th, 2007 12:55:45 AM
Trashing D-WAR (without having seen it) but in the same sentence stating that DRAGONSLAYER (LOL), DRAGONHEART (LOOL) and PETE'S DRAGON (LOOOL) are the ultimate dragon movies is more than just retarded. D-WAR was miles better than crap like ERAGON. The rip-off argument is quite pointless - there's been almost none original story in cinema since the 1960s. Everything has been done before in one way or another.
"This movie will make you appreciate porno with a plot" by gudge	Sep 14th, 2007 01:27:18 AM
i appreciate porn in most forms. Including midget porn. Fuck if its got a plot.
All right guys... by Rei-Ginsei	Sep 14th, 2007 06:37:06 AM
I'm not going to lie to you. This is gonna get kind of weird. But I'm gonna have to see...two dragons!
Sorry, don't watch SCI-FI anymore since by teethgnasher	Sep 14th, 2007 06:41:59 AM
those bastards decided to split the last 20 episodes of BSG into 2 seasons. Fuck 'em.
I HOPE THERE ARE NO DRAGON FUCKERS HERE by BringingSexyBack	Sep 14th, 2007 06:52:36 AM
Sick bastards. This movie looks like a 90s reject, by the way, not even worth a download.
O.K. I'll bite.....You're a Dragon Fucker if.... by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 14th, 2007 09:14:01 AM
reading Anne McCaffrey books gets you all hot and bothered....
AHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAH by occula	Sep 14th, 2007 09:55:08 AM
trust the ladies to bring up anne fucking mccaffrey!! go carmilla!
that temeraire project thingy by occula	Sep 14th, 2007 09:58:41 AM
i don't know much about it except it's PJ and it's 'master and commander' with dragons, right? which sounds rather like a mash-up with dvorak and britney, but, that's just me. so, wait: this isn't a video game movie? it's a movie by 'the host' guy? i loved the host. hy-larious.
doesnt anyone else think that Langellas skeletor ... by RockLobster800	Sep 14th, 2007 10:42:27 AM
was CLASS? Cmon-he just over blew the insane evilness of him and overacted to fuck cos...well, what else can you do with Skeletor?...it was great!! rest of the movie was crap but c'mon-"I am more than man, more than LIFE!! I....AM.....A GOD!!!!" great stuff!
BSB by Lando Griffin	Sep 14th, 2007 12:31:26 PM
what if you "love" the dragon? And what if you only fuck female dragons? You did know having relations with a dragon is accepted practice in Holland and Denmark right?
Not from the director of The Host, Occula by KanekoFan	Sep 14th, 2007 01:18:33 PM
People keep bringing The Host up because both are Korean monster movies, but this is by a different director.
Don't care... I'm STILL gonna see it!!! :) by TheGhostWhoLurks	Sep 14th, 2007 02:42:12 PM
Looks like a lotta fun, and I haven't seen a good bad movie in a while.
How old are you Master of the Universe lovers???? by slone13	Sep 14th, 2007 02:50:13 PM
Seriously. I want to know how old you were when you saw that flick. Even at the age of 10 I knew that shit was bad. Actually, it was worse than bad. It was completely abysmal. Even Langella. EVERYTHING about it sucked. And I'm a huge MOTU fan.
(MOTU) I saw it around the age of twelve. by theonecalledshoe	Sep 14th, 2007 09:04:57 PM
Dolph did very good with his Conan attempts. Everything else in the movie (excluding Courtney Cox) was a little bit of a huh(?!).
"...it's set in america..." by AHGrayLensman	Sep 15th, 2007 12:10:18 PM
Then how did they get from the city to New Zealand (specifically, the Barad-Dur set from LotR) so fast for the last scene? :) Yes, I paid money to see this... although in retrospect, I should've waited for a matinee showing, or better yet the dollar theater. The big dragon fight at the end was kinda neat. The rest of it... well, let's just say it's ain't exactly Kurosawa. The female lead is a cutey (kinda reminds me of A.J. Langer from "My So-Called Life" and "Escape from LA") but is ridiculously wooden. Actually, everyone in this is ridiculously wooden in a "Star Wars prequels" kinda way, which is likely a sign that it's the fault of the director and/or script. And the story must've been written by a 13-year-old.

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