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freakout!
by frankenfickle
Sep 12th, 2007
12:47:15 AM
look at those pods, man.
fuck oregon
by prunkhaft
Sep 12th, 2007
12:53:24 AM
we never get a motherfucking thing. Even our pbs affiliate is shit. Ah well, it looks nice.
Oregon
by unuseddraft
Sep 12th, 2007
01:08:58 AM
Uh...did you go to page 2? Eugene KLSR Sat 6:00pm Medford KMVU Sat 6:00pm Portland KPDX Sat 10:00pm. I like Oregon.
I dunno
by Don Lockwood
Sep 12th, 2007
01:10:20 AM
Most of those shots are great, but the one that shows the ass-end of the Enterprise with the shuttle coming out just looks too damn fakey.
The drivers of them there shuttle pods...
by tough_times
Sep 12th, 2007
02:14:17 AM
are sometimes called pilots you know. FYI.
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No cartoons yet!
by DarkHawke
Sep 12th, 2007
03:34:14 AM
We watchin' the same shows, shuttlepod? The two shuttlecraft sequences we've seen so far looked great, surprisingly so even. Judge this remaster when you see it, not just off of the stills.

'Course, I'll only be able to do that the next day, 'cause MY asshole local station has got to show a MOTHERFUCKING BASEBALL GAME EVERY FUCKING SATURDAY instead of Star Trek. Hell, there's one or two eps that didn't even get shown at 1:30 IN THE MOTHERFUCKING SUNDAY MORNING, which is when the cocksuckers decided would be just a GREAT FUCKING TIME to run the eps! Yeah, I just FUCKING LOVE these assholes, oh yes I do!!! And that's the Paramount-owned station, channel-FUCKHOLE 11 in the Seattle area!!! K-S-T-FUCK-YOU-W!!!

This one disappoints
by CrushKillDestroy
Sep 12th, 2007
03:41:42 AM
Starting with the shuttle departure they look like somebody needed to grind out some hours on this project. BTW if my astronomy is up to snuff, the last shot indicates they are flying pretty darn close to what is now considered a super massive black hole emitting huge, I mean life killing huge, radiation; so huge Tyson Chicken would use it to process bacteria and germ free chicken. Spock will never have kids :( and McCoy will be pissed. "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not a serving of Tater Tots!"
Concerning haters...
by DeeboShanks
Sep 12th, 2007
03:53:53 AM
Bitch all you want, Paramount won't change what they're doing with the remasters. None of the ships have looked terribly real after they decided to ditch the real-life models, but I understand why they did it. But you folks who bitch about these things act like you still don't have the original episodes to fall back on. Maybe special effects got you into Star Trek. Maybe it was the concept, the ideals, or maybe even the stories provided. Regardless, they are giving you a choice. I enjoy the remasters, and I enjoy the originals. I do seem to wonder though... why all of this concern about updating the original series if they're simply going to create a Universe 2 reboot with the new Star Trek films? www.youtube.com/eyowzitgoin
Update the Music too!
by Musicballs
Sep 12th, 2007
04:31:14 AM
It's cool the way they are updating the effects on Star Trek, but the music still sounds so dated! Why don't they hire Klaus Badelt to come in and re-score these old episodes?
What about the action on the ground?
by NNNOOO!!!
Sep 12th, 2007
05:03:43 AM
The alien monsters in the original looked like guys wearing bearskin rugs. Any changes there?
I hate to say it....
by geodesigns
Sep 12th, 2007
05:21:54 AM
...But as much as these new remastered TOS episodes are an improvement from the original effects, (and the improvement vacillates from just OK to great), the New Voyages Enterprise model, texture and lighting effects on some of the fan-made episodes are much better. But overall, I give the TOS remix in-house effects crew good points for upgrading TOS. In house creative team -- I know you're working hard to preserve the spirit and context of the original FX, so keep it up, I'm watchin'. I'll definitely buy the DVD's when they come out. And New Voyages FX crew- you got heart and guts to go up against tremendous expectations. You also have my respect; complete the 5 year mission!
Anyone know...
by Cigsandcoffee1756
Sep 12th, 2007
05:31:53 AM
If or when they might be releasing these remastered episodes on dvd?
Go check out Amazon, S. 1 is available for pre-order
by YackBacker
Sep 12th, 2007
05:48:36 AM
On HD-DVD. And by Season 1, I mean all of Season 1, not the 24 or so episodes they remastered last year (which has been a mish-mash of all three seasons).
Wonder if they remaster some of TNG cause the
by Yeti
Sep 12th, 2007
06:38:22 AM
first couple of seasons are starting to show their age in terms of CGI (especially in relation to battle sequences or the Enterprise D orbiting various planets)
I used to pronounce "Galileo" wrong...
by tonagan
Sep 12th, 2007
07:15:04 AM
I said "guh-LIE-lee-oh". Derrr...
Shuttle bay shot makes the Enterprise look tiny.
by FluffyUnbound
Sep 12th, 2007
07:16:28 AM
The shuttle bay looks like it's one fourth the size of the entire main section. I was never one of those "let's get our hands on the Enterprise plans!" geeks, so someone else will have to tell me if that's "right". How do they have room for all those decks in the saucer section, if the MAIN section is only about 5 stories tall?
Remastering TNG
by Anakin Whoopass
Sep 12th, 2007
07:34:12 AM
Yeti: Converting TNG to HD is a bigger job because, not only are there 7 seasons instead of 3, but in the semi-digital days of the 80s and 90s they shot on film then transfered to low-def video before editing the scenes together. TNG episodes would have to be reassembled shot by shot in HD, while TOS episodes were complete on film to begin with. Supposedly they have done a test episode or two.
The New Voyages models look terrible
by Falcon5768
Sep 12th, 2007
07:48:18 AM
Im sorry the modes have never looked real (except for the most recent BoP one, but thats because it WAS the Enterprise model they where allowed to use) and dont get me started on the Road Runner FX they gave the thing. These look 100% better than anything that fan fill could put out on their own without borrowing Paramounts work.
my beef with almost all Star Trek shows
by SantiagoAtez
Sep 12th, 2007
08:00:23 AM
With exception to the original Star Trek and Enterprise, I could never stand the fact that these characters were supposed to be explorers...but they lived on cruise liners. Machines that created anything out of thin air, transporters that beam them anywhere they want to go, and Holodecks to make a replica of any setting. They were pussies. And I could never get into the original ST because of the 60's futuretech stuff that was great at the time, but makes it complete retro fantasy now. That's why I thought Enterprise was going to kick ass, but then the captain ended up being a pussy, as well. So I guess the best combination would be Sisko commanding the Enterprise during the Enterprise show era...with writers that NEVER wrote for any of the star treks before (sick of recycled episodes, as well).
so instead of a big dark blur...
by theonecalledshoe
Sep 12th, 2007
08:28:14 AM
they give a big light blur. :)
Give us TNG! And not random eps, start from ep 1
by performingmonkey
Sep 12th, 2007
08:53:08 AM
Encounter at Farpoint. Give me that 2-part pilot merged together with new effects. I'd rather have that any day than the Original Series remasters.
whirlpool around the sun (sorry I don't know the scient
by OlafStapledon
Sep 12th, 2007
08:54:05 AM
An accretion disk.
DarkHawke
by PVIII
Sep 12th, 2007
09:06:33 AM
upgrade to dvr. It's an extra 9.99 a month you cheap fuck.
Crappy, crappy CGI.
by Midol Boy
Sep 12th, 2007
09:53:44 AM
The models were so much better. This is what ruined Star Wars. It look like they want to ruin Star Trek too. Sad. :(
Remaster the Cavemen
by nexxus7
Sep 12th, 2007
09:56:36 AM
The offscreen stuff and giant spear was about all you got I recall. A cool reaction shot with a bunch of those things lumbering around would be pretty frightening. And maybe a comparison shot where the thing is like 12-15-feet tall. Yep that'd make you think twice about going on shuttle missions. Haven't seen but a few of the remastered since they stopped making their way to itunes. To me the GCI models look scores better, but it's minor nip tuck--because they are either trying to do it on the cheap or are afraid of ticking off the purists by meddling too much. I say, the series is already available in their pure form cleaned up and all. That said, they should amp up wherever they can. Step up the space fighting, add some more music, knock out the background and add in some virtual sets, drop in some CGI creatures (like the Gorn, although the thing on Enterprise was horrible). To me these changes are only appealing to a segment of the current audience. If they want to try to reach a new audience with a 40-year-old series, they need to raise the stakes quite a bit.
Actually, better not to see the cavemen.
by Smerdyakov
Sep 12th, 2007
10:11:46 AM
If you actually saw them they would be just another funny-forehead group of aliens.
Shuttle Comlumbia
by misterdug
Sep 12th, 2007
10:11:57 AM
They went to all the effort to add the shuttle Columbia to the remastered shot inside the shuttle bay, but then left it off of the exterior shot showing Galileo leaving the ship. Why?
Columbia
by misterdug
Sep 12th, 2007
10:14:13 AM
I kant spel so gud.
Yeah, but Smerd...
by Kid Z
Sep 12th, 2007
10:26:42 AM
... they'd be 20 FOOT TALL funny-forehead aliens!
size mismatch?
by berserkrl
Sep 12th, 2007
11:24:44 AM
In the pic where the shuttle is exiting from the Enterprise, doesn't the shuttle look way too big relative to the ship (or conversely, doesn't the Enterprise look too small)?
Size
by SPECTRE007
Sep 12th, 2007
12:33:36 PM
That ship must really smell. 400 people packed into a starship the size of a Buick.
The shot of the shuttle leaving the bay
by Vi
Sep 12th, 2007
01:12:40 PM
The reason the shuttle bay looks so big is because of foreshortening - things closer to the camera look bigger than things farther away.

http://tinyurl.com/2hrhla

Krik Shot First!!!!!
by The Green Monster
Sep 12th, 2007
02:01:14 PM
Or was it Han?
Kirk Shot First!!!
by The Green Monster
Sep 12th, 2007
02:01:39 PM
Sorry for typo.
That rear shot of the Enterprise....
by closeencounter
Sep 12th, 2007
02:17:46 PM
makes the saucer section look like it's on crooked. I swear the nacelles are leaning one way and the SS is leaning the other!! Also, that navigation light over the Galileo looks HUGE!! Unless it's a tractor beam enclosure (or something).
another sighting of the galileo
by ultrakarl
Sep 12th, 2007
02:59:15 PM
not a scoop...just interesting with some funny bumper stickers http://tinyurl.com/27yboh
I don't think it's Columbia...
by HoboJuiceExplosion
Sep 12th, 2007
03:17:50 PM
It's Columbus, as in the explorer. Goes hand-in-hand with the naming of the Galileo.
Well Monkeybutt...
by Aphex Twin
Sep 12th, 2007
04:22:28 PM
Turns out Sulu was queer...it wouldn't be the Enterprise without a queer on board.
IMHO: remaster shots inferior to original
by kabong
Sep 12th, 2007
04:36:05 PM
The trend in Hollyweird: make everything crappy.

Because their brains are crap!!!!!

misterdug
by CranstonS
Sep 12th, 2007
04:41:19 PM
Good catch. Maybe that's a shot of Columbus leaving the bay to search for Galileo?
Remastered makes the Enterprise look very small
by Mike_D
Sep 12th, 2007
04:49:12 PM
that little tiny ship takes up a quarter of the enterprise! its hard to believe that a whole crew lives on that thing.
They should CGI Quinto over Spock.
by Smerdyakov
Sep 12th, 2007
05:01:31 PM
Just so we can see how it looks.
Are you from Canada???
by Mister Man
Sep 12th, 2007
06:12:50 PM
"Returned from Holiday"?????
CGI looks flat
by Jack Colby
Sep 12th, 2007
06:51:26 PM
Hopefully that stuff looks better in motion, because based on the stills none of them were improvements over the original. Very plastic-y and fake, whereas the originals, though not as colorful, at least looked three dimensional and real.
Well Once Again No Contest The New FX Win!
by Real Deal
Sep 12th, 2007
07:29:50 PM
Yup! There's no contest. The new FX make the storyline more interesting. They give you more of a feeling of what's going on. Also they make these old stories that I've watched since I was 13 back in the 60's new again! The thing I wondered about was why didn't they do more? Then it dawned on me. That adding tons of detail over the surface of the old model would look out of place with the rest of the show. They do just enough to match the rest of what's going on. Great job guys! I can't wait for the DVD!
Isn't the creature still a guy in a suit?
by TallBoy66
Sep 12th, 2007
09:34:08 PM
Yeah, that clashes a tad.
Monkeybutt...
by DeeboShanks
Sep 12th, 2007
10:04:26 PM
Your comment about Quinto being "queer" is a real downer. Star Trek is supposed to be about the triumph of all mankind, not just the "non-queers". I mean, have you ever even SEEN the show? Do you know what the Vulcan IDIC means? Infinite Diversity, Infinite Combinations. Grow up. www./youtube.com/eyowzitgoin
Yeah, and going where no Queer has gone before.
by Smerdyakov
Sep 12th, 2007
11:21:15 PM
If that's possible.
Can they CGI the cardboard planet sets, please?
by Bill Clay
Sep 13th, 2007
12:41:40 AM
It's sort of pointless to have the space shots look modern, and then the on-planet shots look like something from Lost In Space.
BTW, the editing of the remastered episodes suck!
by Bill Clay
Sep 13th, 2007
12:51:54 AM
I realize that they have to make room for more commercials these days, but some of these new episodes have been cut up so bad that the plot is almost unintelligible at times. Characters refer to key events that we never saw, because it was chopped out to make room for another commercial break.
Monkeybutt...
by DeeboShanks
Sep 13th, 2007
04:17:59 AM
ROTFL! To quote my gay friend Shaun, "You was wrong fo' that!" But seriously, I don't give a damn if a gay person plays a straight character or not, as long as they get the character right.
PVIII
by DarkHawke
Sep 13th, 2007
06:03:42 AM
I've had a DVR for over three years, and thanks to the HD tuner card in my Dell XPS 710 and its accompanying 30" widescreen display, I'm seeing AND recording TV the likes of which I've never before beheld.

NONE of which can in any way alter the local airing of the remastered eps in the Seattle area. Thus I reserve the right to remain monumentally pissed off at my local FUCKHOLE station for constantly bumping and/or canceling showings of Star Trek, which, thank the gods, will FINALLY FUCKING END after next weekend, when the Mariners give up the ghost yet again and slink back into their hole for another off-season.

Oh, and BTW? BITE ME!

RE : Bill Clay
by Real Deal
Sep 13th, 2007
09:02:47 AM
That's why I can't wait for the DVD. I've downloaded some of the episodes on iTunes and they're complete and unedited. If you watch them you can see that they even edited out some of the new FX!
Not really available on iTunes
by Scrivener1701
Sep 13th, 2007
09:10:19 AM
Theoretically they are but iTunes hasn't added a new episode to the list in quite a while. A lot of the newer remanstered episodes are inexplicably missing in action. I've been waiting for the Doomsday Machine episode for months now.
DarkHawke
by PVIII
Sep 13th, 2007
10:43:02 AM
Ok, fair enough.
My local fuckhole station...
by Kid Z
Sep 13th, 2007
12:38:00 PM
...aired the eps, but had, and still have some kind of technical problem which wiped out their HD broadcast, which sort of defeats the whole purpose. Then, they canned Trek in favor of endless repeats of Everybody Loves Raymond. (Remember back in the 90s when you could switch to any channel in the country at any given time of the day and there was a 95% chance the show that'd be on would be Wings?... now that show is Everybody Loves Raymond!)
Vi on "The shot of the shuttle leaving the bay"
by berserkrl
Sep 13th, 2007
12:53:16 PM
"The reason the shuttle bay looks so big is because of foreshortening - things closer to the camera look bigger than things farther away." Um ... thanks for the link to the wikipedia entry on persepctive, because I come from another dimension and have never before noticed this foreshortened effect you speak of. But seriously, foreshortening has nothing to do with this. Forget about length; look at the WIDTH of the Enterprise compared with the WIDTH of the shuttle. Do you seriously beieve it's just a few yards from one side of the Enterprise to the other?
The technical term...
by njheathen
Sep 13th, 2007
09:01:54 PM
...would be "quasar".
And the technical command ...
by berserkrl
Sep 14th, 2007
03:07:06 PM
... would be "Set quasars on stun!"
the original actually looks better
by Ray Gamma
Sep 14th, 2007
04:01:42 PM
...especially the first one; the orginal looks more photorealistic. What the hell are these FX guys on?
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