Also, Demi Moore is not "Demy", its "dem-EEE". Thank you and you are welcome.

INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF THE GODS is a perfect title and I hope they go with that one.

Is Alan Dean Foster writing the new IJ movie?

I hated (hated) 'Attack of the Clones' when it was announced, but it grew on me. I don't know how on Earth this will grow on me.

Okay, that's my impression of the reaction to follow after this announcement here on AICN. Frackin' TBers.

Not a big fan of the title, but all is forgiven if Spielberg delivers a great Indiana Jones movie, which I'm sure he will.

You see, there's a BIG difference between Lucas and Spielberg. Spielberg still has it... and he's evolving over the last few years. Lucas shouldn't have returned to directing, plain and simple, after a 22 year break to make the prequels.

But Lucas isn't directing it. And if anyone thinks that his bad tastes trumps the director that is Spielberg because Lucas is producer, then you're dead wrong. If Lucas was directing it, I'd be utterly fuckin'scared to watch Indiana Jones 4. But with Spielberg at the helm, odds are it's at the very least a fun and entertaining ride revisiting an iconic character that we love.

But now that it's official... I kinda like it.

A more boring start if you add in the T.

Me so funny. Me laugh now.

And for the record, the funniest one is still Indiana Jones and the Forty Second Fart.

Ride now!

What's the poster art gonna look like? Will they have room for an image with all those words crammed in there? Jesus pleezus!

Karen Allen... Seriously, I still would! She, like, hasn't aged!!

I swear to God, that little bitch has it coming. I fuckin' hate him, the spawny little bastard!

And - forget TRANSFORMERS, apologise for CONSTANTINE!!!

She can google my youtube any day...

Back on topic: you can never go home. And this new Indy flick sounds a lot like goin' home. They're all old bastards now, let 'em rest their weary bones. And NO BITCHING when you TBers see A LOT of CGI stunt work and many stunt persons who are NOT Harrison Ford doing his stunts for him. The man is in his sixties and needs his knees intact, dammit!

I'm Audi. IRON MAN will rule next summer, if only for the Black Sabbath soundtrack. That trailer rocks!

Now bring me Marion Ravenwood. In a Leia slave outfit. NOW!

Damn.

Yay La Beef!

The title? well, it's fine. It's the actual film I'll judge when I see it.

"What pisses me off is that fuckin IJ.com is ONLY accessible via Flash since the reboot "

What I liked about the others, especially, "Raiders" and Crusade" was the way the titles eluded to more than just the film's macguffin. As someone up there said, those title weren't so "literal".

The talkbacker who said that the title Raiders of the Lost Ark would have been mauled by talkbackers if AICN had existed back in 1981 was right on the money. I'll bet you cinetards think The Empire Strikes Back is a good title. In fact, it's just as bad, if not worse, than Attack of the Clones -- never mind the difference in the films' qualities.

SS is smart and I think he knows he needs to stir up a bit of buzz among the younger crowd. The 16-24's know who Indy is and that he's a "film icon", but there's rarely the kind of attachment there is among those whose age exceeds that fickle demographic. SS and GL know they have Dark Knigh and increasingly positive Iron Man buzz to contend with next summer.

So, I have a hunch that revealing the title like that - through Shia- hit the males AND females they wanted to get excited about this project. The rest of us "original" Indyfans who probably don't watch Indy or hang pictures of Shia in our rooms (perhaps unless there are darts in it?) will still find out in our own ways. Like, by Internet.

"You bastards, I'll get you for this!"

"Indiana Jones, adieu."

I still think IN DIANA JONES is viable. Get Jessica Biel's people on the phone, pronto.

First Kind-seeing a UFO
Second Kind-communication with UFO
Third Kind-physical contact

Please Lucasfilm, I am begging you (and I'm apparently not alone) to pull a "REVENGE OF THE JEDI" and change this title. It's not too late, you haven't released the teaser trailer or poster yet. INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF THE GODS sounded monumental and epic. This new title isn't bad, it's just really goofy. Like one of the Indiana Jones books or videogames but certainly not for a feature film.

In fact, most of what he said was stuff that could be found in other sources or on CHUD, He just collected them, threw them out here like he was divulging some insider" info and made up everything else that held the tidbits together because he thought it was what we'd want to hear.

The fucker was like Supershadow, making shit up to get his jollies from all the attention we gave him.

IJATROTLA - Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark

IJATKOTCS - IJ and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls

Now, i knwo the original title of the first Indy film was simply "Raiders of the Lost Ark", which is still how I refer to it, but technically, just like "Star Wars" is now "Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope", that IS the title. And it's not all that different. peace

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Actually, the TB reactiosn to the sad fucker at the end are pretty funny. Even TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION gets in on it...

Remove the space on that link.

And by the way the U.S. National Film Registry for the Library of Congress has STAR WARS and RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK preserved as "culturally, historically, or esthetically important" films. No "INDIANA JONES AND THE" bullshit or "EPISODE IV: A NEW HOPE" nonsense.

Jett came up with details, but they were completely fabricated to appease his captive TB audience.

I wish he hadn't been banned because if you could read the bullshit he was writing in those later TB's you'd see what a douche he was. E-mail Mori if you want his recapped opinion that Jett was leading us all on.

I am not a proponent of going back to mess with art once it's done. It's reflective of when it's done and it should be left alone. Most certainly not to be fucked with for some marketing purpose.

http://tinyurl.com/3xv49v for the scoop. "HD VMD discs, which hold up to 30GB on a single side, are encoded with a maximum bit rate of 40 megabits per second; that's within spitting distance of Blu-ray's 48 mbps, and quite a bit more than 36 mbps for HD DVD. The format uses MPEG-2 and VC1 video formats to encode at 1080p resolution for the time being, and will possibly move to the H.264 format in the future."

...The HD VMD format supports up to 7.1-channel Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, and DTS audio output, though it will not offer the high-bit-rate Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master Audio surround-sound codecs.

Jeebus...at least these guys are going to the mat with a $150 HD-VMD player.

I'm not sure this is the first place the "Mutt" thing was broken, but this story hit the same time Jett started talking about it on AICN. Coincidence? I think not.

Oh, and one9deuce, krack's not "JettL93". he was already here (and if memory serves, under a different name before being randomly banned for no reason)

Anyway, it doesn't matter. It is interesting to speculate HOW those tidbits got out, but I do not think that JettL93 had any validity to his claims. If he did come by some veritable info, it was purely by coincidental association with something quasi-reputable.

I like Mayans and all, but I have to think there's more reliability in science than oral tradition passed down over 3,600 years. Still, it DOES certainly fule the imagination - which is what Indy is all about.

INDIANA JONES AND THE CITY OF THE GODS is such a perfect title, the second I read that earlier in the year my anticipation for this film went from 100 to 1000 instantly. The first picture of Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones again had the same effect.

with Back to the Future...

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(2) He's fucking Rihanna. Under her umbrella - ella- ella- ey- ey- ey - ey- eh-eh.

(3) He was the furthest fucking thing from Chas in CONSTANTINE that you could possibly imagine. I don't completely blame him... but he WAS complicit... in taking the role!

(4) Being in TRANSFORMERS, therefore being in the same trajectory as the goddess Megan Fox.

(5) Spielberg worships the kid. Last time that happened, we got Haley Joel Osment. Shudder.

5 reasons why Shia LeBeef is shit. There you go.

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You think John Rambo would have run from Lao Che and sons behind a gong? Hell no. He'd have taken all them out, spit in their bloodoed faces and said, "Ay, Lao, like the lady says, 'anything goes'." Then blow up Club Obi Wan on the way out just for good measures.

Of course, perhaps they're all busy right now and one of them is working on it, but hasn't completed it yet.

Um, anchorite, is there something in your reasoning that I'm missing here?

There were some funny titles, but you pwned 'em all.

By which I mean LAO CHE!!!! dunh dunh dunh!!

That said, of course the guy's goign to continue pimping his popular properties for money. It's not greed. It's just where he makes his bucks to do all the other stuff he wants to do. Like....uh..well, stuff.

Seriously? Oh no, you didn't!

SPIELBERG: Let's hope it's the 'Berg that made MUNICH, 'cos if it's the one who made WAR OF THE WORLDS... oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

LUCAS: STAR WARS PREQUELS. Enough said.

FORD: Mid-life crisis (remember the fucking EARRING?!?!?). Dating Calista Flockhart. Mentoring Josh "Monotone Human Yawn" Hartnett. Not doing a good movie in YEARS.

LEBEEF: I STILL want an apology for CONSTANTINE. He was okay in TRANSFORMERS. Seems to be a one-trick pony, though: he's getting by on the wise-cracking kid sidekick shtick. And last time the 'Berg took a shine to a kid, the world got Haley Joel Osment and Dakota Fanning. Who both creep me the fuck out. 'Nuff said.

I will give you Janusz Kaminski, John Williams, Karen Allen (thank God - Marion is BACK!), Cate Blanchett, John Hurt, Ray Winstone and Jim Broadbent. Some solid actors there. But then we had Liam Neeson, Celia Imrie, Ralph Brown, Terence Stamp, Pernilla August, Hugh Quarshie and Ewan McGregor in a hotly anticipated movie back in '99... and all that thespian class couldn't defeat a virtual Keanu Reeves. Whoa.

The track record of the progenitors of the Indy series ain't inspiring of late. They've very much seemed to have lost that magic sense of what the audience wants these days. They're rich, comfortable, and not at all fired up to change the world with their movies any more. They don't care what the fans think. At least one of them will treat this like an SFX exercise, not a proper narrative.

Like the hero of their best work once said, "I gotta bad feeling about this."

Cool name, by the way. By Northlander, you mean Cimmerian??

M-O-M: you got what I meant. Thanks for the back-up.

KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL is growing on me. Although the title is mostly irrelevent compared to the quality of the film. Of course, this film IS being made for money though, please don't anybody fool themselves into thinking otherwise. Neither Lucasfilm or Dreamworks or Paramount would EVER let a property as valuable as INDIANA JONES be dormant forever. Having Shia reveal the title on the VMA's(!) means they are targeting the younger demographic that might not know the films. Just the fact that Shia is IN THE MOVIE proves they want to appeal to a younger demographic that has free time and disposable income. The movie can still be good, but hopefully no one here is deluded about the true motivation behind making it.

And if this film is a megahit (300 million+) I can guarantee that we will see the continuing adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.

But they won't. Prepare for MUTT: THE PHANTOM MENACE. Lucas will fuck this franchise up. He's good at that.

Better still: bring back BRISCO COUNTY JR!!! Bruce Cambell as a cowboy riffing on the Indy character - there's nothing cooler than that!!!!!

Yes- “Of course, this film IS being made for money…Neither Lucasfilm or Dreamworks or Paramount would EVER let a property as valuable as INDIANA JONES be dormant forever.”

Yes- “Having Shia reveal the title on the VMA's(!) means they are targeting the younger demographic”

Very Likely- “if this film is a megahit…we will see the continuing adventures of Mutt Ravenwood.”

But why that insist either Raiders or ToD MUST be the “better” Indiana Jones film? I like talking Indy as much as the next fan, but these two films are obviously very different in the Indyverse. Apples and oranges, folks. And for people that prefer one kind to another, you’re never going to “prove your point”.

To say one film showers a “truer” Indy than another assumes a logical flaw that there IS a “true” Indy. Why is the “true” Indy more cynical than kick-ass? Or vice versa? Indy is all these things. Above all, he’s human, giving him the range to be all those things, and more, but at different times. Just like other human beings we show varying amounts of our diverse personalities based on the experiences affecting out lives. People mature and change (well, most anyway). Indy did too.

Each movie portrays a different side of Indy. Each one is a different kind of adventure. It’s okay to have a favorite, but to insist one is truly “better” than another is just silly.

You can annoy though. You're great at that.

Yes, 99% of films are made to make money. But there is a big difference between a director filming a story that's important to him and a studio putting out a product. This film is dangerously close to the latter. I'm sure they are enjoying themselves and want to make a good film, but having Shia LeBeouf in the film it is a DELIBERATE attempt to pull in the younger demographic. You should hear what goes on some meetings, it would blow your mind how little the executives care about making great films versus making lots of money. The second thing is WAY more important in Hollywood than the first. Like it or not, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas aren't maverick directors trying to tell the stories they've had in their minds since childhood anymore, they are both executives at their respective studios. And with that comes the responsibility to your employees to make money. Period.

nobody believes your bullshit stories

Eh, whatever...