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UPDATED! Davey Bizzle’s Got A Look At The (Not Remotely) Finished SOUTHLAND TALES!

FIRST by THE KNIGHT	Sep 8th, 2007 03:48:04 PM
SUCKAS!
Let the Kelly Bashing Begin by THE KNIGHT	Sep 8th, 2007 03:48:28 PM
In 5. 4. 3. 2.
hmm by ButtfuckZydeco	Sep 8th, 2007 03:50:02 PM
still looking forward to it.
The Rock and Sean William Scott...together again by Bobo_Vision	Sep 8th, 2007 04:02:16 PM
Thats a formula for 'meh'.
fifth by abner pepper	Sep 8th, 2007 04:02:38 PM
Let's hope Kelly's not a one trick pony.
Never seen a Kelly Film but by THE KNIGHT	Sep 8th, 2007 04:03:33 PM
hey, it could be one of those films ahead of it's time? The same ones that people rave about being the greatest of all times 30yrs from now. Maybe I'm reaching too far o_O
strikes me as a must see even if it isn't very good by Winterchili	Sep 8th, 2007 04:05:36 PM
the whole thing just sounds very interesting, and the prequel graphic novels were really good.
Some one needs to look up contemporary in a dictionary. by Grando	Sep 8th, 2007 04:10:20 PM
And, this sounds like exactly the kind of film that will become a cult hit.
I am afraid to look... yet I cannot turn away! by Yeti	Sep 8th, 2007 04:11:59 PM
Whether or not it's narrative is cohesive or not well Q.E.D.
I AM SO by The Real MiraJeff	Sep 8th, 2007 04:21:16 PM
JEALOUS!!!!
Fantastic Fest by SEGASTUD	Sep 8th, 2007 04:27:49 PM
Please let it show during the fest.
Where's that trailer at???!!!! by pretentiousboy	Sep 8th, 2007 04:44:12 PM
Hey Richard buddy, where's this trailer at? You said first week of september? Regardless of how bad this film is, compared to the utter complete emptiness of attempt at originality, this will still be worth the price of admission. Hopefully Richard didn't go over his head. USC students have a habit of getting prideful and pretentious over time (ex:Lucas). CONSPIRACY ALERT: I believe Sony bought the film to hold off its release until AN ACTUAL nuclear attack (by our government) kicks us into a police state, might happen this month, who knows. Remember the parallel to richards last film (jet engine/911).
This movie is not... by down75	Sep 8th, 2007 04:47:38 PM
Donnie Darko and thats what I wanted to see more of, so I didnt like it. Figured I would edit down that review to help save some time for the other talkbackers.
aren't porn stars by strangernparadis	Sep 8th, 2007 04:58:38 PM
supposed to be nekkid?
wow, if a fan of donnie darko doesn't think much of ST, by newc0253	Sep 8th, 2007 05:03:14 PM
what will the rest of us think?
pretentiousboy by El Mono	Sep 8th, 2007 06:44:21 PM
you are reaching with those conspiracy theories of yours... I will watch this movie no matter what. Can't be worse than Shoot 'Em Up, Pirates 3, Spidey 3, yadda, yadda, etc. At least it's got interesting ideas in it, no matter how poorly executed. And the music sounds kick-ass. Wonder how much of it will end up in the final.
No Surprise here... by Redfive!	Sep 8th, 2007 07:04:59 PM
Kelly's theatrical cut of Darko is great but the Directors cut is sh*t.Domino was crap and I think this dude just watched way too much Twlight Zone as a kid.Point being he's no boy genius that some have called him.
Jesus, he's been working on this for how many years? by AnnoyYou	Sep 8th, 2007 07:15:46 PM
Give it up, dude. "Donnie Darko" is a pretentious bore which appeals only to emo boys and girls. "Southland Tales" sounds like an unholy mess better consigned to DVD or the dumpster. Just take your lumps and go, Kelly. I think its moment has passed.
El Mono by pretentiousboy	Sep 8th, 2007 07:27:52 PM
I might not be reaching. Read this link.... http://forum.prisonplanet.com/ index.php?PHPSESSID=0e231c7ec0 da12473c278efbafc6a5f8&topic=5 213.0
alright enough of this nonsense by Winterchili	Sep 8th, 2007 07:38:43 PM
donnie darko has 90% on rt, 88 on metacritic, and it is in the top 250 on IMDB. it is loved by many people who aren't "emo". many morons judge films based on who likes them since they have no facility for objective criticism and because they know nothing about film.
Donnie Darko, why people like it.... by pretentiousboy	Sep 8th, 2007 07:49:50 PM
1. Good Music to slow mo. 2. Parallel universe stuff 3. 80's 4. Science Fiction Previous Sophmore slumps (getin cocky): Wes Anderson "Royal Tenebaums" (stick your american express card up your rearend)(QUIRKY = HUMORLESS HUMOR) Dear Richard, don't turn into that horrifically terrible needle nosed director Steven Sodenberg. SLT will be atleast more enjoyable then solaris. Side note: The RED camera is shipping out folks (out group has 2 on the way). Go make your movie. Prove you can do better.
pretentiousboy by one9deuce	Sep 8th, 2007 08:36:21 PM
You are exactly right. There is plenty of cool things in DONNIE DARKO (good music, parallel universe, retro 80's, sci-fi, NOT studio fare, etc...) but the actual storytelling is horrible. It reminds me of certain friends I have that like a movie because of what it HAS instead of how well it's told. Ideally a film has both.
That being said, by one9deuce	Sep 8th, 2007 08:38:13 PM
I am interested in seeing SOUTHLAND TALES based purely on the fact that it sounds totally unique.
ROBOTECH by Sappers Forward	Sep 8th, 2007 08:44:25 PM
Southland what?..anyway, just read that they're bringing ROBOTECH to the big screen and spiderman himself is going to star! Robotech ruled back in the day.
Kelly knows he has a bomb on his hands... by El Scorcho	Sep 8th, 2007 08:54:39 PM
So defensive, Richard.
Donnie Darko is a good cult film that ate itself by reflecto	Sep 8th, 2007 09:13:11 PM
I didn't even bother watching that bullshit "Director's Cut" and I don't know if I ever will. You know why? The film I originally saw, you know the one he originally shot and cut, I came out with a totally different take on it from the one apparently dictated to me by the director, his website, his other tie-in websites, his Myspace, his DVD, his script, his commentaries... It's a massive wankfest for geek fans (like myself) to pretend the whole thing is part of a larger tapestry and extended universe that did not, in fact, exist in the original film we all watched. And trying to shove it all in there in a self-important second cut totally hamstrings the good film Kelly did make. He seems like a wunderkind who already thinks he's an esoteric genius with grandiose visions who can do no wrong, but all he did? Was make one good film. Which he then drowned in iconography and self-fanwank minutiae. I hear STL is crap and I am not surprised. His ego done sploded.
People and their Lemming-like horseshit... by jfp2007	Sep 8th, 2007 10:18:16 PM
What's with all the Lemmings on this site who read a review and automatically use it to judge a film? I've seen it time and again. It's one man's opinion of an unfinished film that is nowhere near complete. It's one review and doesn't function as a stand-in for the majority consensus of the movie. This shill could very well be completely off his rocker and the movie (for you) could be a completely different experience. Think about, Lemming. @reflecto: Oh, for Fuck's sake.
A got Donnie Darko on DVD and I've watched it once by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Sep 8th, 2007 10:25:40 PM
enjoyed it, never got around to watching it again and soon became very tired of people going on and on about it. Still I am really intrigued by this film as it sounds very odd. Look forward to seeing it.
I've heard abou this movie forever and I still by slder78	Sep 8th, 2007 10:36:58 PM
can't seemed to get enthused for it. i thought Donnie Darko was interesting but the hysteria around it borders on Whedonverse ridiculousness. And if California is the only state that counts in presidential elections, how the hell are Republicans still in power? I haven't seen a republican in CA since I watched Terminator 2 on cable the other night.
I'd rather watch Domino 1,000 more times and I hated by GQtaste	Sep 8th, 2007 11:59:30 PM
...and I fucking hated Domino like no other! Matter of fact, I'd rather watch the entire run of Desperate Housewives thus far than see this pretentious piece of shit one time!
ALL THESE END OF THE WORLD FILMS... by pretentiousboy	Sep 9th, 2007 12:12:38 AM
Art imitating life... Time to Repent folks.... You have only one shot at eternal salvation. Stop worshipping these false idols. If you don't believe in jesus check out what they found in the center of one of the farthest universes that we can see.... http://www.prophecycorner.com/ agee/cross-in-space1992.jpg If there's chariots under the red sea.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =GvvatiTufzc&mode=related&sear ch= And millions of sulfur balls at the location of sodem and gamorra... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OReeS2xJ2pk&mode=related&sear ch= And the ark found where the bible said it was with same cubic measurements in bible (if anything explain how a boat that big gets up in a mountain)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =SE7nN80dIw8 And carbon dating as proven wrong... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =DARD0NmlL4I And evolution disproved (missing link still missing folks)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =DFNKIre3X7k&mode=related&sear ch= Then gods for real folks. Remember this, all religions except christianity are based on salvation through works, with christ it's grace through faith...
Matter of fact, I'd rather watch "George Rule" "Because by GQtaste	Sep 9th, 2007 12:12:47 AM
I said so, FAther of the bride 3, "Stepmom", the one where Julia Roberts dies? You know, w/ Dolly, Sally, Daryl, et al. Oh, Steel Magnolias, Beaches, Spice World, Away from Her, Son of the Mask, House Party 2 and Santa with Muscles than this bullshit!
My advice to Richard Kelly is by glodene	Sep 9th, 2007 12:16:22 AM
on his next project, try doing something a little less esoteric and more commercial. It's cool to be original, but not at the expense of alienating the ticket-buying viewer. You got to find that happy medium between artsy and accessable. It's already a foregone conclusion that Southland Tales is going to windup being a writeoff for Universal unless his re-edit version generates some good word-of-mouth, thus resulting in some (hopefully) profitable b.o. lucre (doubted), if not, he may have a hard time getting his next project financed.
paint the shit gold all you want- its still shit by hegele	Sep 9th, 2007 12:31:39 AM
There seems to be serious structural problems in this. It should not takes years of post if there is something worth wild in the Kelly's deck of cards. Richard- cut your loses, stop wasting studio money attempting to fix it. Release it quietly on video, hope nobody makes a fuss and then write a new script worth filming.
yes, but the film does have a conversation by s0nicdeathmonkey	Sep 9th, 2007 12:35:05 AM
where SMG specifically discusses having foreign objects placed in her ass.
The Brown Bunny by Neo Zeed	Sep 9th, 2007 02:39:24 AM
Ebert said that it was the worst movie in the history of Cannes. One recut later, he gave it 3 stars. Perhaps Kelly has a chance. P.S. I've never seen The Brown Bunny so maybe it sucks balls, I dunno.
no, it doesn't but Chloe does during the film. by s0nicdeathmonkey	Sep 9th, 2007 02:41:13 AM
easy joke.
synechode dude by s0nicdeathmonkey	Sep 9th, 2007 03:59:25 AM
I never actually saw that movie. But wasn't it only like 7 inches...that's not THAT big
Crossing the fingers by BlackIronPrison	Sep 9th, 2007 04:26:49 AM
Met Mr. Kelly once. Extremely nice guy. Easy to talk to. we watched Ang Lee's HULK together with some peeps. I hope this thing isn't as bad as everybody's saying it is. Couldn't be worse than Daddy Day Camp.
Face facts.... by Jimmie Dimmick	Sep 9th, 2007 05:58:51 AM
Richard Kelly = Billy Walsh Southland Tales = Medellin
Opinions on the review... by DavidCamp	Sep 9th, 2007 08:04:47 AM
Tomorrow I watch the same cut of Southland Tales as Davey Bizzle. I have been assured that no amount of playing about in post-prod can save it from weak performances and a complete lack of focus from Kelly. I hope he's mistaken. It’s frustrating and a little sad to know the film turned out so terribly, but even more upsetting that so many clingy Darko-fanboys refuse to let go of their hopes for the picture. From the beginning, my interest was peaked by the idea of Kelly having the ambition and resources to broaden his vision and have a shot at a much bigger project, but it seems that in the process his coked-up mind confused itself for some sort of groundbreaking auteur. Sure, he has one genuinely original movie under his belt, but this whole endeavour stinks of ego – and the blind belief that he can throw together a structureless bunch of meaningless ideas and images and trick the public into thinking its cohesive. The reviewer mentions Lynch, whose work is the polar-opposite of what Southland Tales appears to have become. For all their fucked chronology and peculiarity, Lynch’s flicks are anchored by some sort of emotional/visual/thematic weight in place of conventional narrative. As Stanley Kubrick once said, “a film is – or should be – more like music than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.” Whereas the Lynch and Kubricks of this world have this skill down to a fine art, (and I hoped Kelly too prior to this apparent mess), the review suggests that Southland Tales fails in exactly the ways I feared it would. Utter randomness for the sake of randomness, in the empty hope it’ll trick fools into thinking its ‘profound’, the worst sort of lazy “wouldn’t it be cool if” screenwriting. Hearing Kelly scrambling to the films defence within minutes of the reviews posting is even more frustrating. I pray he’s right, and it has somehow been elevated to a more cohesive level during the last few months of editing, but this whole project now reeks of commercial/critical disaster. Frankly, watching the film shuffle around for the last couple of years whilst Kelly pathetically defends against any criticism is nothing short of embarrassing. I wish that he had the guts to give up and allowed it to gently slip into the warm, forgetful embrace of DTV with none of this bullshit 'hype'. The film strikes me as being dead on arrival. I hope Kelly has the humility to acknowledge its flaws when it bombs in a couple of months, and shift his intelligence and talents onto a tighter, less ego-driven project. I’ll track the progress of ‘The Box’ closely.
pretentiousboy by theoneofblood	Sep 9th, 2007 08:29:10 AM
I hope that was a joke. I really do.
Any sort of a release date for this thing at all? by Yeti	Sep 9th, 2007 08:29:33 AM
And will any of the actors do junkets for it given that it's been (years?) since they actually filmed?
boooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr by ironic_name	Sep 9th, 2007 09:18:41 AM
iiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnngg ggggggggggg
It can't be... by NubtheSquirrel	Sep 9th, 2007 10:12:05 AM
worse than say, Buffalo 66, or Brown Bunny, or even Doom Generation. Those three movies are the worst movies I have ever seen. The only thing Doom Generation had going for it is that you see Rose McGowan naked in almost every other scene, otherwise the movie is pure shit. If anything I want to see this simply because of the trouble Kelly had gettig this to the big screen. Perhaps it was the hype that the fans of Donnie Darko heaped upon it as the seconding coming that will eventually lead to its general panning. Remember, this was one of the two movies that was booed off the screen at Cannes the year it premiered. Marie Antoinette was the other. Southland Tales is an enigma to me because the comic book that ties into the movie was released last year and they were fascinating and will probably be the thing that make the movie make sense rather than the incoherent mess that people are talking it up to be.
Yeah SK229 politics and art definitely don't mix... by rbatty024	Sep 9th, 2007 11:02:33 AM
just read Hemingway's For Whom the Bell Tolls, Sinclair's The Jungle or Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath because nobody reads those today. Sarcasm aside I understand you're point that art should be about more than just the time and place and touch upon the human condition, but I don't think that if a piece of art is about a time and place then it's garbage. All three works I mentioned are much richer and deeper works of literature if you know about when and why they were written. If you understand the politics then you can get more out of them. I agree that art and politics is tricky and can be a deadly combination but I'm just not nearly as dead set against it as yourself. Besides, everyone has a political ideology, whether you recognize it or not it's there. So in essence there's politics in all art because any worldview or view of the human condition suggests a political ideology. As far as liberals being as bad as conservatives when it comes to shutting up opposition I think you're wildly off base. The ACLU is the most liberal group out there and they protect people who hate them and share wildly differing views. I also don't think a liberal president would monitor PBS to decide if they had enough people on who were friendly to their administration (http://tinyurl.com/2t36zk).
Steel Magnolias 2: Tokyo Drift... by messi	Sep 9th, 2007 11:12:14 AM
This time, John Matrix wants War.
Whatever... by Kabukiman	Sep 9th, 2007 12:03:30 PM
Honestly, i didn't get past the part where the reviewer tells me that most people won't like it. Fuck youm buddy. I hate it when people review movies and try to tell us all what we'll think about it. Honestly, I know very little about the movie and I want to keep it that way so that when I see it on opening night, I won't have much colouring my viewing experience. That is all.
SGT. kubukiman, nypd by ironic_name	Sep 9th, 2007 12:13:33 PM
says youm. hes radical!
"coz nobody likes ya, monkeyboy." by ironic_name	Sep 9th, 2007 12:17:16 PM
thanks nixon, now i can hear bloodhound gang, over and over.
An open letter to Richard Kelly by TheKappa	Sep 9th, 2007 12:49:10 PM
Richard Kelly- One of the worst story tellers in film? I'm going to lose a bunch of you here, but... ...I HATED Donnie Darko. For those of you still with me, I'll continue. Maybe it was the complete over hype by my friends who, knowing my tastes in film and other media, told me time and time again that I'd love it. However, I have a feeling that the reason I didn't like Donnie Darko is because it really wasn't all that good. It's an interesting look at time travel, sure... but in the end, a disjointed story that just simply didn't add up when all was said and done. You see, when telling a story, be it in cinema, television, a novel, a comic- WHATEVER, the audience pieces the plot together, piece by piece as if it were a puzzle. Once the credits roll, the audience should be able to take a step back and recognize just what it is that they put together. This wasn't so with the original cut of Donnie Darko. Major plot points (including the mechanics of time travel, the machine that drives your film) were passed over in your initial "final" (pre-director's) cut. Major pieces of said puzzle weren't included in the "box", resulting in a failed final product. A number of posts above mine outline how people had varying conclusions after watching the first released cut of Donnie Darko as to what happened. You yourself admit that everyone will have a different interpretation of what happened. Even you have had to weigh in with what you THINK happened in Donnie Darko in various interviews. Shouldn't a director fully grasp the story he's telling? Otherwise, you're a guide who doesn't know where he is going, and you're taking the audience with you. To me, that's the mark of a poor storyteller. There should be an objective truth to a film that the audience can reach given the elements of the story being told. (One of the reasons I have such a beef with David Lynch films, but that's another rant altogether) Back to the point I'm making, in order for the audience to fully understand the original story in Darko, one had to peruse the DVD extras and get a sense of just how the machine that drives your movie operates. You even had to write a book ("The Donnie Darko Book") to explain just what the hell was going on in the film! Thankfully, you realized this and re-cut the movie as your "Directors Cut", including all the crap from the DVD extras actually IN the film (what a novel concept!), however badly. (Let's face it- you could have thought of a better way to show the contents of Roberta Sparrow's book) Then, we have Southland Tales- By all accounts, instead of learning from your mistakes, you've gone with something even more abstract and disjointed. Your first cut that was booed to high hell at Cannes weighed in at a lofty 160 minutes, and even that required the reading of three graphic novels of content that were required in order to even make heads or tails of the disjointed mess that you call Southland Tales. Now, I'm all for making films a multimedia experience. I love comics that help to ADD to the plot of films and other media. I loved the website for the Blair Witch Project back in 1999 that added to the experience of the first viewing of that movie. I played every step of the "Lost Experience" last summer as a companion piece to the TV show Lost... HOWEVER- when you need to read a 360 page comic book in order to fully understand whats going on in a movie (as you have required with Southland Tales) then, once again, you have failed as a cinematic storyteller. Extras such as this shouldn't be used as props to the cinematic story you're telling. If you're going to add to the story you're telling in other forms of media, be it comic books, ARGs, shorts, WHATEVER- Make them ADD to the self contained plot of the film you're tying them to, not make them required reading for anyone to grasp a plot that you couldn't even tell in 160 minutes! Mr. Kelly, maybe film isn't the right medium for you... Perhaps you would be better off writing comics, novels or television series? It seems to me that if you have difficulty telling fleshed out stories in 120 minutes that maybe it's time to step aside and let better, more competent storytellers do their thing.
You know what this movie needs! by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Sep 9th, 2007 01:30:54 PM
Buffy plays a porn star does she not? We need a full anal scene with her, i would definitely buy this on blu ray then!
Formatting by TheKappa	Sep 9th, 2007 01:49:15 PM
Yeah, I had the entire rant formatted when I posted it... then when I hit "Post Comment", it posted it as one big block... No way to edit my post, either... (sorry... it was my first post.. the formatting irked me too)
I LOVE DOOM GENERATION! by s0nicdeathmonkey	Sep 9th, 2007 02:55:23 PM
but then...I was about 10 when I saw it.
rbatty024 by s0nicdeathmonkey	Sep 9th, 2007 02:57:43 PM
those 3 pieces are about the characters and the human condition first and foremost. the politics of the moment are explained in literal terms, not vague metaphors and carry weight as human issues, not just issues of the day.
Donnie Darko as originally viewed is a mood piece by reflecto	Sep 9th, 2007 03:23:34 PM
And it was a cult film because of that mood and what it made a collective audience feel. It was not THE BEST FILM EVER but was quite a good debut. It was afterwards, when the whole "hidden mythology" on the websites and in intvs started to seep in that was almost totally unrelated to the original film you actually saw, that the thing became a monster. You had Kelly on the audio commentary of the original cut explaining how everything you were seeing was totally contrary to the byzantine narrative he constructed in his head, but never bothered to put onscreen. Then, he released a WHOLE OTHER CUT which totally mangles the good film, but hey, at least it's "his real vision". And now we have Southland Tales, the bloated apex of his ego.
At least Richard Kelly knows his 80's music by Neo Zeed	Sep 9th, 2007 03:55:11 PM
He put Echo and The Bunnymen's "The Killing Moon" in the intro. That song was BEGGING to be put in a movie for years. He was the only filmmaker to recognize that. Also, The Church, Joy Divsion, and even little ol' Tears For Fears. Alt 80's tunes + teen drama = instant fanbase. It's that simple. Just ask John Hughes.
Southland Tales is shit. by Superflyfox	Sep 9th, 2007 03:58:15 PM
Seen it in Cannes last year and it is exactly the same here despite the 'edit'. Loved Darko but this film stinks badly all fans will feel the same
s0nicdeathmonkey by rbatty024	Sep 9th, 2007 04:38:04 PM
I agree with you that great literature should transcend the issues of the day, and I even mentioned in my earlier post that great art should ultimately be about the human condition, what I was taking issue with was SK229 claim that great art and politics are mutually exclusive. He sounds like a goddamn New Critic. As far as Southland Tales, what I've heard has been interesting and I've was a big fan of Donnie Darko (I haven't seen the director's cut). Although, I also hated the other film that was booed at Cannes, Marie Antoinette so I don't want to get my hopes too high.
WHERE.......IS.......THE.....PRO MISED....TRAILER.... by pretentiousboy	Sep 9th, 2007 05:34:03 PM
I'm beginning to not trust mr kelly anymore.
so someone explain to me: by newc0253	Sep 9th, 2007 06:06:53 PM
what exactly was missing from the theatrical release of Donnie Darko that (i) some people didn't understand it the first time round; and (ii) Kelly felt it necessary to explain a whole bunch of stuff in the director's cut? I thought Donnie Darko was overrated but i never thought it was particularly ambiguous. So what was it about the director's cut that made so many Darko fans unhappy?
newc0253 by Neo Zeed	Sep 9th, 2007 06:42:19 PM
The problem with the Director's Cut was that it was called a Director's Cut. It should've been called the Explanation Cut. Or Richard Kelly should've released the original with an extra disc explaning stuff. In the director's cut, title cards pop up explaining the parallel universe stuff he explained in interviews during the film's original release. As an explanation of the mythology behind Donnie Darko, I thought it was interesting. Sort of like an easter egg DVD thing (without the interactivity.) As an actual movie, though it sucks because 1. The title cards pop up too many times and interrups the flow of the movie. 2. There's a cheesy video overlay of a firework show, to emphasize that Donnie "saved the day." 3. He changed the intro song to INXS Never Tears us Apart, but that might be a personal complaint ;)If Kelly just said it was a companion piece to the original film, I would be happy with that. But when it's called the Directors Cut, it implies that Kelly believes that it's a superior film to the original cut....and that's just plain retarded.
He got lucky with Donnie Darko - fact. by performingmonkey	Sep 9th, 2007 07:06:08 PM
Donnie Darko (original cut) only works because everyone can take something from the movie even though they didn't really understand what happened. This was a total accident though, as Kelly admits. He originally intended for the time travel 'mythology' to be in the movie and for everyone to be able to get the story. Without that stuff it's a better movie but the events are more confusing. It's like...in Lost, when they explain everything in the end (what the monster is etc.) people are just gonna be pissed off because the wonder is gone.
What A Cast! by Aquatarkusman	Sep 9th, 2007 07:06:58 PM
(insert Triumph the Insult Comic Dog joke)
Doom Generation question..... by barnaby jones	Sep 9th, 2007 07:13:16 PM
Does a character get their member cut off by a pair of shears in this ? Also was it shown at Cannes ? if it wasn't why are we even talking about it ?
S Tales by Cobbio	Sep 9th, 2007 10:46:48 PM
After the load of Kelly discussion I've read here, I'm still excited for the theatrical cut of "Southland Tales." They've added millions of dollars of effects and re-edits to bring it up to Kelly's vision, and I can't discount that. Plus I thought the "Southland Tales" clip I saw was funny, oddly nuanced, and Darko-ish in its delivery. I'll be checking this film out in November.
ILL ASK AGAIN..... by pretentiousboy	Sep 9th, 2007 11:05:11 PM
Where's the frappin trailer at.
Link to trailer!!!!..... by pretentiousboy	Sep 9th, 2007 11:59:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =thvAgeUmm58 ONE WORD WOW!!!!
LINK!!!!! by pretentiousboy	Sep 10th, 2007 12:01:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =thvAgeUmm58
Bullshit, he made up the time travel arc after the fact by reflecto	Sep 10th, 2007 03:10:45 AM
I guaran-fucking-tee it. The little wunderkind hit it big and then decided to introduce a whole other bullshit concept.

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