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"Noooo, Joe!" G.I. Joe Movie To = MEGAFORCE?! Or, Is It TEAM AMERICA?!

Speedstream by Speedstream	Sep 8th, 2007 11:26:57 AM
SCREW THIS!! End of story.
completely retarded by BLWiseass	Sep 8th, 2007 11:27:12 AM
i hate the P.C. police.
this sucks by bigbadbua	Sep 8th, 2007 11:28:23 AM
GI Joe was a huge part of my childhood, and these assholes are taking a big shit right on it. I'll probably see it, but this is about as dissapointing as anything I've read on this site.
I won't... by Speedstream	Sep 8th, 2007 11:31:15 AM
see it...waste valuable bandwidth download...or waste hard earned cash on iTunes. This is a waste...complete waste. Utter garbage.
FOX News "analysis" by RenoNevada2000	Sep 8th, 2007 11:36:35 AM
Somehow I think maybe FOX spun this story abit... At least they showed some restraint and didn't take on "because the evil pinko liberal jews of Hollywood want your children to be gay and hate America and the baby Jesus." Well, at least until O'Reilly tackles the story on Monday.
After losing two wars, who's a hero anymore? by wintocha67	Sep 8th, 2007 11:37:28 AM
See how upcoming Rambo does... Ass must be kicked and our troops ain't kickin it.
porkchop sandwiches!!! by PunkLunchbox	Sep 8th, 2007 11:38:06 AM
personally, I've always preferred this version of GI Joe: http://youtube.com/watch?v= TLnWlLTqu4Y
For fuck's sake. Wake up. Its FOX. by GilesT	Sep 8th, 2007 11:43:30 AM
As far as fact-based journalism is concerned, Fox News is on a par with the National Enquirer... or the UK's Daily Mail. They want to make you angry, and they don't give a toss if they have to make shit up to do it.
Dark Knight Teaser Trailer is up at Apple.com! by Spamster	Sep 8th, 2007 11:49:22 AM
It ain't much, but you hear some dialog. And yes, quicktime is glorious!
GilesT by Aragorn II	Sep 8th, 2007 11:53:06 AM
Hyperbolic much?
GI Joe will be based in US. This is old news. by Ash Talon	Sep 8th, 2007 11:53:45 AM
This Brussels-based item is old news. On a Joe forum on another site, it has been stated by the writer that GI Joe will have an international theme to the team, but the team is HQ'd in the USA. It's still being written, so let's not jump to conclusions. Some good news is that Sommers is aparently a fan of the 80s Joe universe, so if he's referring to the comics, we're on the right track.
I'm sure they'll blame this on the "liberal left" by kafka07	Sep 8th, 2007 11:56:10 AM
It was that damn Cindy Sheehan, she ruined our global image. Damn terrorist.
It's "Government Issue Joe" or this is a G.I. Joke by Monkey_King	Sep 8th, 2007 11:56:45 AM
America needs a heroic fighting team to look up to. G.I. Joe has always been it, but if a studio changes this I say picket the studio and bombard them with hate mail. Get Larry Hama and the Devils Due team on baord as consultants or this film is doomed before it starts.
This has nothing to do with Fox's retarded spin by crapcat	Sep 8th, 2007 11:57:44 AM
It has been known for some time that they're trying to incorporate G.I. Joe and its foreign equivalents (at least the UK's "Action Man," possibly others) into one project. Characters would be renamed and new characters introduced practically every time Joe was licensed for another country. This has less to do with politics than just trying to provide a product that overseas audiences will recognize and respond to. Still, you have to acknowledge that the unpopularity of the Iraq war makes a $100-150 million summer action movie about a U.S. military force a riskier proposition than Paramount would care for.
Destro has a silver head, Cobra commander a hood! by StupidAndUgly	Sep 8th, 2007 11:58:11 AM
PLEASE DONTTRY AND UPDATE IT! I want over theatricle craziness from cobra and absurd special ops from GI JOE! Give me lazers and Cobra twins who can feel eachothers pain. Make snake eyes mute and storm shadow bad ass. Scarlett better be a real red head, and not be a dyed brunette, or not a red head head at all, which I think is possible. The Baronesse better look S & M. Please dont make this too "real" or else it wont be GI JOE! A real AMERICAN Hero!
If Sommers is a fan...then...HE SHOULD READ OUR POSTS by Monkey_King	Sep 8th, 2007 12:01:17 PM
make sure we get the coupling of Snake-Eyes and Scarlett, NOT ladies man of action Conrad "Duke" Hauser trying to "make it" with the team ninjas redheaded girlfriend/fiance and doing cartwheels on the tarmac whilst dodging laserblasts(?) Make the fans proud Sommers!!!
I can't wait for the Captain Globalman movie! by Kraken	Sep 8th, 2007 12:04:00 PM
Poor Steve Rogers will have to find a country-neutral costume now.
Oh Dear Lord by Holy Hell	Sep 8th, 2007 12:05:01 PM
Settle down people. I liked GIJoe when I was a kid, including comics, toys, and cartoons. But come the hell on: it was always a way for Hasbro and whoever to make a dime off hero-worshipping American youth. A studio making creative decisions to increase a movie's international profit potential is hardly sacrilege, unless you equate Joe with religion. Which too many of you fanboys do. It might be cool, it'll probably be mediocre, but it's GI Joe for heaven's sake, not a peak at the universe's spiritual order. Get some fricking perspective.
Fox is bad??? by phrozen_ghost2k6	Sep 8th, 2007 12:06:18 PM
Come on...lets be intellectually honest...if you think conservatives are the only ones that manipulate the media then you have been asleep for a REAL long time...Ever read the NYTs? How bout ole Dan "the liar" Rather? Im not speaking out for the current administration, Im just saying to please show some IQ points when making political commentary... And the current "climate" can kiss our red white and blue behinds. Everyone hates us till they need us, especially you euro-clowns who couldn't defend themselves from an aerial assault from pidgins....not to mention any real threats...
I already saw Megaforce by YO MOM'S GOAT	Sep 8th, 2007 12:10:51 PM
It sucked. I won't go see this movie. If they're ashamed of the United States I hope the United States is ashamed of them. Go toss.
Phrozen by Holy Hell	Sep 8th, 2007 12:11:29 PM
There is media bias everywhere. The conservative media, however, is MUCH worse than the New York Times. At least the Time's reporters do research, instead of towing the party line or pandering to some childish image of salt of the earth mid-western American values. No-one's perfect, but the Time's standards for journalism are much more concerned with process that Fox News. Jesus, wake up.
G.I. JOE is a fucking AMERICAN hero. by spaceworlder	Sep 8th, 2007 12:13:25 PM
Remember that, studio execs, when your movie flops in 2008 in 2009, whenever the hell it's released.
Action Force by Fried Gold	Sep 8th, 2007 12:14:54 PM
was the name of the franchise here in the UK.
making "GI JOE" an acronym is insulting by BizarroJerry	Sep 8th, 2007 12:15:15 PM
The term came about to refer the everyman American soldier during World War II. To turn it into an acronym, an international acronym no less, is kind of insulting isn't it? If you try to turn the franchise into a different franchise, why even bother? A major selling point of this film is that it's G.I. Joe. Make it NOT G.I. Joe, and why make it?? Just cancel the whole thing. This could be worse than the TF movie... BUT, it could be possible that a good film could be salvaged from this. Why not just have an international team in the movie, but have the foreign folks working WITH G.I. Joe?
GIJOEINO! GIJOEINO! GIJOEINO! by BeeDub	Sep 8th, 2007 12:16:41 PM
Make this movie right or don't make it. Period.
Don't forget that by Fried Gold	Sep 8th, 2007 12:19:40 PM
the cartoons were generally crap (in the same way seasons 2 and 3 of the Transformers cartoon were). So the film doesn't really have to try that hard.
What a LOAD OF SHIT! by Rando Calrisian	Sep 8th, 2007 12:23:48 PM
Unbelievable. If there was any property other than Captain America that is ALL AMERICAN it is G.I. Joe! Whoever is in charge of this film should be dumped in Afganistan to learn why America is the greatest country in the world. GI Joe is an American hero, not a PC multimational circle jerk. Unbelievable.
The Times? by phrozen_ghost2k6	Sep 8th, 2007 12:24:34 PM
The times is the most bias news organization around. Come on, Fox News was created because CBS, CNN, and the rest of the crowd leaned so far left that the tv would slide off the stand!!! Look at the MSNBC line-up, ALL FORMER DEMOCRATS!!! Not that Democrats are bad, but when people clearly have a vision of the world they dont abandon it when they go to work...When polled 9 out of 10 who work for the media donated to the dems...That is Bias...unless 90% isn't a majority, and last time I checked it was.. I am not endorsing either side, but I refuse to allow people to 1) Project one side as less biased then another, they are all fucking bias partisan assholes, and 2) Portray Americans as shit bags. All French are not sniveling cowards are they? Ask for help and we will be there...ask the UN and prepare to wait..
YO Joint Operating Entity!!! by Spyhunter	Sep 8th, 2007 12:27:59 PM
Almost sounds like a Jay & Silent Bob film. Seriously though, the studio really needs to stop worrying about "political climates" and just make the movie the fans will want to see.
Paramount = Pussies by ScrewParamount	Sep 8th, 2007 12:30:33 PM
This is just insulting. Yes, G.I. Joe is a fictional character. But if Hollywood can't make one movie that really proclaims that the U.S.A. is great, and that there are bad people out there that only the U.S.A. can put in their place, then fuck Hollywood. If these same yahoos were in charge during WWII, would we be getting movies about how we needed to understand the Germans? That Pearl Harbor was really our fault? 300 shows that a movie can make a tremendous amount of bank if it drops the p.c., pussy bullshit. So, that's it. I'm boycotting Paramount. If they're too scared to make a movie that is gung-ho for America (no pun intended), then I don't see why I need to give them anymore of my money.
As for the RAH! RAH! America idea... by BizarroJerry	Sep 8th, 2007 12:34:46 PM
Every aspect of the G.I. Joe property is not based on a "Hooray for the US military!" theme. The cartoon sometimes leaned towards that, but the heroes of this flick don't need to be running around literally flag-waving. Plus, Cobra is not a bunch of Islamic terrorists. They're an international threat, and aren't out for some ideology. They're James Bond villains! I don't see this being as big a deal as they seem to think it will be. And yes, I've heard that angle about this story from places other than Fox News.
Jesus. by RainJacket	Sep 8th, 2007 12:35:21 PM
Who gives a shit. Goddammit all. I don't give a crap about International Extreme Integrated GeoGlobal Political Fighter Team Go. I can't wait to never see this for as long as I live. Yo Joe. Fuckers.
Ahh, Megaforce... by James Westfall	Sep 8th, 2007 12:36:53 PM
Persis Khambatta with hair and a plunging neckline... a young Barry Bostwick ready to set out and conquer Hollywood, looking like Will Ferrell... Devon from Knight Rider... good times. And we shouldn't be surprised about GI JOE being taken away from America. Yes, it's political correctness run amok and yes that's got everything to do with the Commie left. But they pulled the same shit with Superman Returns with that Commie Michael Dougherty deciding that "American Way" was just too oppressive and imperialistic. Let 'em take GI JOE out of America and make it something its not. As a JOE fan since the first Marvel comic came out with the toyline I don't even want them to make this fucking movie because I don't want to see it mishandled. But they will, and they'll take a big hit for their Commie correctness. Eventually the failed flick will be forgotten, but Hollywood won't have learned a lesson about this sort of shit.
I'm not even a huge fan of GI Joe... by Rando Calrisian	Sep 8th, 2007 12:37:33 PM
But I find the lack of Pro-American anything coming out of Hollywood insulting. There are a lot of us who are very patriotic, and want to see the positive side of our country protrayed. How many of us are excited at the possibility of seeing an awesome Captain America movie. Now how many people want to go see Captain Commonwealth? That's fuckin' right - no one. Whatever, Hollywood. Your days are numbered. Remakes, Sequels, movies based on video games, action figures and cereal... Come on.
"Don't need to be running around literally flag-waving" by James Westfall	Sep 8th, 2007 12:39:52 PM
BizarroJerry, you never read a GI JOE comic, did you? They're all proud to be 'flag-waving' military types. That may offend you as some sort of imperialism or something but that doesn't change the fact that in the comic and the cartoon they're patriotic, they love their country and that they're proud to serve.
Phrozen by Holy Hell	Sep 8th, 2007 12:43:50 PM
I don't care how a news organization identifies it's editorial position. The Times usually comes down on major issues on the left; Fox almost always comes down on the right. That's fine. What I find bothersome is that clearly defined editorial positions (left or right) has seemingly erased a debate on the PROCESS of reporting news. There are blogs with clearly defined LEFTIST biases that DO NOT use honest research and reporting, certainly. But in comparing the flagship organizations, if you will, of LEFT vs RIGHT (NYTimes vs. FoxNews) it is clear that there is more RIGOR in the journalism of the Times than in the ranting of Bill O'Reilley. But don't take my word for it, just watch FoxNews and read an issue of the NYTimes. I'll give you a generous benefit and not count you, dear Phrozen, into the following group, but MANY who declare a NYTimes liberal bias in their journalism have NEVER READ THE NEW YORK TIMES. It's between you and your integrity to decide if you've done research enough to make such a confident declaration. Just because theirs bias doesn't mean that one of the biased groups does a more thorough and penetrating job reporting on the world's news.
This movie WILL be a pile of shit. by The Artist FKA Vesuvio	Sep 8th, 2007 12:49:02 PM
It has Stephen Sommers on its credits. Nothing can change destiny.
Oh and cats tested poorly, so now its Thunderdogs. by modlight	Sep 8th, 2007 12:51:17 PM
This is moronic. I never watched this show as a kid because I had ex hippie parents (god I wanted to which proves that boys wanna shoot shit nomatter what), but I have to say that if it isn't going to be the US army what is the point? And not to make this political (cause I am a liberal and lets not start shit), but if people can't buy the idea of a heroic US Army man, isnt now exactly when you want to put out something that makes them look heroic? Whattacountry!!
Pardon the sloppiness of my by Holy Hell	Sep 8th, 2007 12:51:44 PM
Pardon the sloppiness of my syntax in the last post. change the last sent. to, "Just because THERE'S bias doesn't mean that one of the biased groups DOESN'T DO a more thorough and penetrating job reporting the world's news." Apparently I need an editor for talking back. Apologies. And BTW, I'm independent and vote like it.
The line has been blurred by Steve_Dooku	Sep 8th, 2007 12:53:34 PM
Fox "News" and essentially all cable news is "news" entertainment. They aren't journalists. They are hosts of programs that report hand picked stories that reflect and editorial view. Their jobs isn't to report news, it's to get you to watch their channel. It's no more complicated than that, and it's hilarious when people bicker on about each side making stuff up and being biased to one side. G.I.JOE? I don't have much to say about that.
No shit this will suck. by Shermdawg	Sep 8th, 2007 12:54:09 PM
There's NO WAY they'll turn Cobra Commander into a snake.
Dooku by Holy Hell	Sep 8th, 2007 12:57:03 PM
I agree with you, to a large degree. But such cynical simplification of the news media's motivations can paint the industry with too broad a brush. There IS good journalism going on, and the BAD journalism of the most popular outlets (such as cable news) can work to cynically diminish faith in ALL journalism. There is a spectum of journalistic integrity that we NEED to be aware of.
generally I don't care about hollywood changing cartoon by troutpencil	Sep 8th, 2007 12:57:33 PM
Fuck Transformers. But fuck, this is terrible. The movie was already going to be a sleazy attempt to suck in our money, but this nihilistic bullshit, if it's really evident in the movie, will make it unwatchable for me. I don't want to be so obviously spat on when I'm watching studio garbage, it'll never be worth it.
Snake-eyes by Redbox	Sep 8th, 2007 12:59:24 PM
It's all about the Larry Hama comic, which was incredible. Snake-eyes, Scarlett, Stormshadow, Stalker, Duke (or Hawk), Destro, The Baroness and Cobra fucking Commander. Otherwise, Hasbro, you're making a big mistake! No Action Man! Screw em! Hollywood learn the Spider-Man, X-Men rule already! Do it right... lost of sequels and $$$ do it wrong ... kill the franchise!
Sure by Steve_Dooku	Sep 8th, 2007 01:01:19 PM
There is good journalism out there, no doubt. We get to see it when it's good for ratings. Yes, this is a simplification, but it's a reality. Sadly, more often than not, in order to get "the real story" one has to find it themselves. Most people would rather read a Yahoo (or aicn) headline and deem it TRUTH! so it is said, so it shall be! rather than going, hmmm....
Steven Sommers is a good guy by AlwaysThere	Sep 8th, 2007 01:03:13 PM
This apparent mishandling of this movie is all Paramount/Dreamworks fault. They're acting like pussies.
Action Force is for wussies! by Redbox	Sep 8th, 2007 01:03:54 PM
Action Force sounds like a gay improv/dance group. Action Man sounds like a porn superhero. Snake-eyes would make him cry like a baby in under ten seconds. Just some friendly ribbing from across the pond! Yo Joe!
Can't wait for A. Valerious' cosplay pics by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 01:05:45 PM
other than that, I'm pretty sure I was FIRST in breaking this story on a GI JOE TB a few weeks back, and no one cared. Give me a black box, guys!
Actually, James... by BizarroJerry	Sep 8th, 2007 01:06:39 PM
I'm a major fan of the comics and read them to this day. And personally, I don't think I'd mind the literal flag-waving. I'm more trying to speak to what these people are concerned about. G.I. Joe does not NEED to be like that if they prefer it didn't. It's not vital to the property is all I'm saying. The old comic was often positive about the actual soldiers, while very critical of the goverment, politics and even the highest levels of the military. But no one has to be singing "A real American hero..." during the film. They're just soldiers fighting Cobra, and happen to be American. Again, I wouldn't mind if they were more patriotic, etc, with the story, but if they prefer not to be, you still don't have to "reimagine" the whole team.
Words fail me by Purgatori	Sep 8th, 2007 01:06:47 PM
on how pissed off this makes me. So I'll just use two. FUCK YOU. To whomever has made that decision or whatever, FUCK YOU. That's just bullshit and even if it's just a cartoon, it's a slap in the face to our soldiers to say something like that.
I need a hero by Lance Rocke	Sep 8th, 2007 01:08:45 PM
I'm holding out for a hero til the morning light
Are you surpised? by phaedrus007	Sep 8th, 2007 01:09:02 PM
I mean, Brian Singer already has Superman standing up for "Truth, Justice and all that stuff..." so why not mangle G.I. Joe a little bit. Given the anti-americanism rabid in the world today, I'll be shocked if they don't change the theme song to "A real Canadian hero...."
What's most insulting... by westwood13	Sep 8th, 2007 01:10:12 PM
... is the idea that they think if they make up an acronym, the foreign market will forget what G.I. JOE refers to. G.I. JOE = American. You can't change that by saying, "Oh, no, this G.I. JOE means Global Integrated whatever-the-fuck." People aren't that stupid. Except for the producers on this project, apparently.
I'm a leftist, and I'd hate that PC bullshit by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 01:13:34 PM
give me a real AMERICAN hero, not globally integrated jingoistic oversea explorers, or any other nonsensical shit.
Merrick, don't be a douche by Thick McRunFast	Sep 8th, 2007 01:16:04 PM
"Word is...", especially coming from FOX, is not something to base a conclusion on.
Look GIJOE was never "Conservative" by Redbox	Sep 8th, 2007 01:19:15 PM
I love GIJOE, I'm a bleeding heart Liberal, and I love the stories and the characters and I have been dying to see Snake-Eyes and the crew go against Chrome dome and Cobra in live action, for a very long time. Adding some one called Action man, I mean how seriously can you take someone called "Action Man." He sounds like a He-Man reject. Just because the Joes are American doesn't mean they are simple jingoistic products. The original run of the comic was about Honor, being a soldier, (which is universal) brotherhood and kicking ass against a smart and secret foe, who looked a lot like relatives of Darth Vader. Why would anyone want to mess with that! It fucking rules!!! It will make you giant hills of cash!! I saw Transformers, but I will not see an Action Man movie, unless you pay me. Hasbro!!! You better pull some weight and fix this now!! So I guess there's not going to be an October Guard?
oh beautiful for spacious skies by necgray	Sep 8th, 2007 01:20:47 PM
GI Joe will put a boot in yer ass! Yeehaw, go Joe! Apple pie and momma and fireworks! Fried dough! Mah gawd, fried dough! Okay, now that I'm done being a dick... This IS a pretty retarded development IF it's true AND it still applies. Who doesn't know that GI Joe is an American character? It's even in the theme song. That being said, it WAS reported by Fox News, known conservative sycophants. And they WILL report anything that makes Hollywood look "unpatriotic". If it's a global team, I assume that means America is included. So chillax, you frothing talkbackers in your shit-kicking boots.
Let's start a game: find another acronym for GIJOE by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 01:21:30 PM
Gutless Investors Jading Our Experience
Of course... by BizarroJerry	Sep 8th, 2007 01:22:58 PM
If these damn execs weren't making films thinking about how the foreign markets will take it instead of making a good movie. I remember a Siskel and Ebert review of some bad action/distaster whatever movie. After complaining about the lack of character with any depth or meaningful dialogue and explanation of what's going on, Siskel added cynically, "But that probably wouldn't crossover well to the foreign markets, anyway." The real problem with these adaptations of major cartoons, comics or other franchises is that the decision to make the movie was based on a bunch of executives assigning the movie to some writer and director. At least some novel adaptations are occasionally championed by someone who saw potential in the film and brings it to a company to try and make it with actual affection for the subject. Those movies have a better chance of succeeding, and may not be made by a committee.
Like Ash Talon said, this is old news... by Maximusprime	Sep 8th, 2007 01:26:06 PM
and GI JOE will be still be the all American Hero. Fox just runs with any story that may appear un-American. It's typical, they aren't called Faux News for nothing. What's really bad is watching you fools continue to bitch about this story even though it has been posted that this "global force" just isn't how the movie will be. Take a moment to actually read shit for a change instead of just reacting like a fuckwad.
I Was Not Allowed To Watch 'GI Joe' As A Kid by skoobyx	Sep 8th, 2007 01:26:49 PM
Because it was too violent. Although as far as I could tell the enemies always ejected before their planes blew up so it wasn't too bad. I also couldn't watch 'Scooby Doo' because it was about the occult. BUT THE GHOST WAS NEVER REAL DAMN IT!! It was just Old Man Williams who wanted to scare people away from his property. And he would have gotten away with it...it it wasn't for you meddling kids.
THIS IS LIKE MAKING MARTIN LUTHER KING WHITE. by TheDohDoh	Sep 8th, 2007 01:27:15 PM
Is this a motherfucking joke?
megaforce by maxwell's hammer	Sep 8th, 2007 01:28:44 PM
Oh, how I recall all my favorite Megaforce characters, such as "Asian Guy", "Black Guy", "Guy With Mustache", "Pilot, Not a Magician", and "Barry Gibb". Oh, the fun we had!
What next? SUPERMAN becomes FRENCH. by snakecharmer	Sep 8th, 2007 01:30:51 PM
Why are people so embarrased to be American? F. U. if you are. SImple. I can just hear the idiot executive during the meeting, " you know guys...". Makes me angry that such idiots have power. I could care less about GIJOE. It's just the typical story of an idiot executive fucking with a movie and injecting their politics or ideas and messing up the movie. Some stupid agent or lawer that managed to get into an executive position. People like Brett Ratner must be really good at Hollywood politics and that's why they stick around. I don't know. idiots. lates.
GI Joke by dapaschad	Sep 8th, 2007 01:30:56 PM
I'm European. And sure, I could watch an American Hero kick some cool cinematic ass. But if this movie, whatever the acronym will stand for, says that ALL US soldiers are 'real American Heroes' (and vice versea, that 'real American Heroes' are first-and-foremost soldiers) and that the world cannot possibly survive without them killing Foreign Bad Guys, then yes, it will not fly to big outside of the US. You can argue all you want using a black-and-white misguided historic view of how the US came to Europe's aid SIXTY-FOUR years ago (for which I'll gladly thank your grandparents) but the current political/military/economical strategy can hardly be called heroic, at least not in the sense of the word that most people in this talkback scream about.
l'd rather see no movie at all than see it ruined by IndustryKiller!	Sep 8th, 2007 01:31:39 PM
This is just a horrible idea. And as a hardcore fan of everything GI Joe I wish to god they would just scrap the whole thing because they are far too stupid to make it work. I don't care what anyone says, Transformers was a piece of fucking shit, its as close to a fact as an opinion on a film can be, and GI Joe is even harder to interpret and has more canon to follow. One thing people don't normally realize is that the linchpin of the show wasn't the Joes, it was Cobra. Seeing the exploits of Cobra Commander and crew was always far more interesting than anything on the Joe's side. And thee rogues gallery, Destro, Zartan, Firefly (my personal favorite, Storm Shadow, The Baroness, etc. were all held awesomely in the orbit of one Cobra Commander, one of the greatest overly dramatic megalomaniacs in pop culture history. Without Cobra Commander being just as he is, there just isn't a point in making this film, and I know they don't have the stones to do it right, so fuck it. Hell they couldnt even do Megatron and Starscream correctly.
I think this negative hype will have an effect by warp11	Sep 8th, 2007 01:32:15 PM
The execs check these boards. They'll reconsider.
Megaforce is awesome by hank quinlan	Sep 8th, 2007 01:33:35 PM
Well it is. The only reason they made this was cuz transformers was so big. Lame.
Cobra will now be the American force. by Flim Springfield	Sep 8th, 2007 01:36:08 PM

YOU STUPID BASTARDS, FUCKING DUMBASS EXECS! by iamnicksaicnsn	Sep 8th, 2007 01:37:15 PM
What in God's name are you doing??? GI Joe is all about America! IT HAS TO BE ABOUT AMERICA. Fuck!
Thank you, Liberals! Now America can't have heroes! by anchorite	Sep 8th, 2007 01:38:15 PM
Captain America has to be killed off because America isn't the good guy anymore, G.I. Joe can't be a real American hero because America isn't heroic anymore... I blame the lefties in this country who have worked very hard to make Americans feel guilty about everything that's wrong in the world. They've worked hard to make Americans ashamed to be Americans. It's bunk, and it needs to stop! Americans shouldn't be made to feel like we shouldn't be proud of America, like we aren't supposed to be proud of being Americans. America is in many ways the greatest nation on Earth. What's so wrong with expressing our pride in America? It sickens me.
Anti American Fare by MarkWhittington	Sep 8th, 2007 01:38:18 PM
Pretty soon we'll be getting films in which Americans are not only not the heroes, but are the bad guys. Wait...I think that is already happening.
political correctness gone maaaaaaaaaaaad by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Sep 8th, 2007 01:39:30 PM
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Hollywood movie hero= usually american. by snakecharmer	Sep 8th, 2007 01:42:08 PM
In the history of Hollywood, how many of the heros have been American? Most. This is about politics, politics, politics. Did people forget that the world was behind us during the attack on the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Iraq has made tough but the world will be behind a new America. It's waiting to see who is elected next year. People out there do like America, Americans. Someone posted about wanting to see more pro American movies coming out right now. I'm with him. Paul Haggis is putting out his SHIT ON AMERICA movie. Why don't we have a pro-American movie to counter his shit. lates.
Blame Bush and his supporters. They turned the US evil. by Flim Springfield	Sep 8th, 2007 01:42:22 PM

Instead of blaming liberals for making America... by rbatty024	Sep 8th, 2007 01:46:30 PM
feel they don't have heroes anymore, maybe you should blame the neocons for creating a world where America invades a sovereign country based on a false premise and continues to sacrifice American and Iraqi lives in an unwinable war (judged by the standards set out before the war; that is, that Iraq will have a Jeffersonian Democracy). Of course you can ignore reality and just blame those who are articulating it and making you feel bad. Boo fucking who! At least you have electricity, clean water, and don't have to fear being blown up on your way to buy milk and eggs. Oh, wait, all that pales in comparison to feeling bad about America. Anyway, I loved G.I. Joe as a kid, and although I think the eighties movie craze is a little lame, if they're going to do this right they need to keep it one step out of reality, just like the television show was. Cobra doesn't need to be muslim terrorists, they just need to be the bad guys. In other words, ignore real world politics if that's possible.
Okay, so fuck GI Joe, but HELL YEAH to Megaforce! by KCMOSHer	Sep 8th, 2007 01:47:48 PM
I adored that Megaforce movie when I was 12/13. Had all the toys, even. I was a huge GI Joe geek as well, but if they aren't going to do it right, then screw that. GI Joe is what it is because it's a representation of America's military men and women. If they alter that, they alter everything. (They also don't plan on using any of the characters, considering that each one represented, more or less, a specific archetype of America or of the American military.) Now Megaforce, you have the whole international flavor, as well as some built-in kick-ass gadgetry. I wouldn't make it a remake, of course, I'd make it a sequel. Get Barry Bostwick to play the senior politico/liaison type, and a new team with much higher-tech vehicles and weapons. Carnage ensues.
Maximusprime, dapaschad by Redbox	Sep 8th, 2007 01:47:52 PM
A) Yes the story has been out there and yes we have read it. Latinoreview.com has had many reviews on the script. They want Cobra out. They want it to be about 4-6 heros, including a guy named Action Man. I'm just adding to roar here in hopes that someone notices. B) Fox News may suck, but this story was, is and will continue to be real, regardless. C) I love French film, English TV and Tintin. G.I.Joe is a superhero version of the original toy line which was Hasbro's American soldier toy. G.I.Joe = Yankee. Does that mean I think it should be Xenophobic and Conservative? No. It can be American without being ugly. The same way John Constantine should have stayed English. Because it's apart of the character of the work. Read the first 25 issues of the original Marvel comic, watch the first two movies (not Cobra lalalalala) and tell me its about an overly American ego trip. Fox News and Ugly Americans have nothing to do with this. Spielberg wants Tintin to be an American. (That would suck donkey balls)
FilmSpringfield Re: Cobra will be American by KCMOSHer	Sep 8th, 2007 01:51:46 PM
You're dead-on. Not only will they be American, but they'll be the covert operatives of a huge American corporation, designed to start wars around the world so that said huge corporation can profit off of them. I'm sure, since Hollywood is so good and using clever and subtle imagery to make their political points, the leader of said corporation will be a former Vice President who is a small, balding white guy named 'Crainey' or something.
anchorite by Redbox	Sep 8th, 2007 01:58:37 PM
This Liberal is really sick of the shit you conservative ass monkeys have done to this great country. Just because you're all closeted self haters who have to think of the President to make love to your wives doesn't mean you can continue to blame us for your fucking up the country. You're hyper nationalism belongs somewhere else comrade. America is about Liberty not fascism so Love It or Leave it Red State! Enjoy working for China. Screw you and Yo Joe!! Snake-Eyes is a libertarian. And just so people know, soldiers aren't Neocons. The Neocons are the rich TV and talk show hosts and politicians who don't go to war, but sit in comfort in public bathrooms with their feet spread wide.
"This is about GI Joe, not Congress" by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 02:09:27 PM
makes me think: maybe ol' George Lucas could write the script. At least if you want to fuck it, fuck it with a blast, and bunches of meaningless political considerations!
The word "hero" has been so over-used since 9/11 by Yeti	Sep 8th, 2007 02:10:49 PM
it's starting to lose any real significance. As for the dropping of the "American" part that's just smart marketing for the rest of the planet. I'm sure in North America the film will be marketed toward your typical jingolistic, steak & potatoes flag waver.
Are we gonna at least get to see Quick Kick? by Doc_Strange	Sep 8th, 2007 02:11:14 PM
Gotta have the wisecracking kung-fu master battle it out with Cobra goons. Maybe even have a part where he squares off with Storm Shadow. But I think they'll be saving that for Snake Eyes. Damn this movie's gonna SUCK!!!
MERRICK... G.I. JOE IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK NOW by moto	Sep 8th, 2007 02:12:42 PM
First off, as always AICN is fueling the fire. I'm a HUUUUUUGE GI Joe fan, but the fact that they are changing two words in the frackin acronym is NOT A BIG DEAL. SETTLE DOWN. And to top it off, you run a frackin' Fox News report with it? Ridiculous. Honestly, does this at all indicate that they are scrapping the concept that we all grew up with? No. They changed an acronym that is virtually NEVER used in the cartoons or comics. It's G.I. Joe. I challenge anyone to find more than one reference in the cartoons and comics of what G.I. Joe stands for. And for the record, they have a great writer (wrote Pirates trilogy and Collateral) coming in to write a new script (thus no Action Man bullshit, so stop complaining about that), and Sommers and co. have confirmed that they are following in the footsteps of the 80s cartoon and comics. It's WAAAAAY too fucking early to start the whole "their raping my childhood" bullshit. Lastly, wasn't Brussels always the location of the G.I. Joe base????? Either way, who cares? As long as G.I Joe is the code name for a highly trained special mission force with its mission to defend human freedom against Cobra, a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world. Everything confirmed since Sommers' attachment mirrors that core concept. So chill out people. It's one thing to bitch about Transformers before it comes about because of concept designs, casting, and an early script you didn't like... but NONE OF THAT HAS EVEN BEEN DONE with G.I. Joe. No casting. No early concept designs. No script since they're starting anew. Relax.
GI JOSE by WONKABAR	Sep 8th, 2007 02:15:06 PM
It's all about the overseas markets boys! International team for an international audience.
Thanks a lot, George Bush by WeinerPenis	Sep 8th, 2007 02:19:42 PM
Right after Sept. 11, even France probably would have seen a good patriotic, pro-American military movie in droves. Then this dumb shit in the White House has to drag us into this pointless Iraq war and fuck up every responsibility he is given, and now G.I. Joe has to be the Model U.N. with guns. Of all the things that piece of shit has fucked up, this is one of the most sheerly annoying.
Maybe this is all the fuel we need to oust Bush by Doc_Strange	Sep 8th, 2007 02:23:00 PM
The injustice of not being able to see Gi Joe as intended thanks to our current administration. Geeks all across the United States unite to oust what is currently seen as a legalized dictatorship. I say fuck em all, let's go back to the days of old and shoot em on the White House lawn. Bastards.
Merrick Doesnt know what GIJoe is by tehgreekhammer	Sep 8th, 2007 02:23:50 PM
but hes intimately familiar with this ghey ass Megaforce? this also coming on the heels of Harry neer having seen Transformers as a kid? What kinds of childhoods did these AICN charachters have? Aside from sad and lonely ones that is...
G.I Joke a real american zero by Prefect Maximus	Sep 8th, 2007 02:29:23 PM
Thats what this movie is sounding like. If you are going to do the movie do it right. From early reports its sounds like Destro is the leader with no Cobra Commander, I can live with this and I suppose so can a lot of other people. But stop with all the changes. G.I. Joe is based in the U.S. Let me guess, the Joes wont be allowed to display the U.S. flag its gonna be some politically correct symbol. Snake Eyes will probably be female, Lady J will be Mr. J, Duke will be a General, Destro wont have a metal mask and the Baroness will probably be a good guy. Look to people like Larry Hama for some insight. Yo Joe!!!!! A Real "AMERICAN" Hero......
And so it begins by Charles Sheen	Sep 8th, 2007 02:29:59 PM
"OH NOES! The acronym is different! GIJOEINO! GIJOEINO!" Give me a fucking break. Stupid fucking fanboy douchebags.
Make it American or I sure as hell won't see it... by Cletus Van Damme	Sep 8th, 2007 02:32:29 PM
nor will I introduce it to my kids or buy any of the merchandising.
This is retarded by Mister Man	Sep 8th, 2007 02:37:05 PM
I was a kid in the 60s, during Vietnam, and never once did I associate my damn DOLL with anything but the fact that it was a generic soldier. Everybody had one, and when we played with 'em, I doubt we were imagining rice fields and Napalm. I was too busy burying my sister's Barbie up to her neck, and running over it with the cool METAL Jeep accessory for Joe. Never knew anything of the cartoon in the 80s, of course. Honestly, don't see the need for a movie, especially one that is going to basically apologize for a toy. But since they made Barbie evil a decade ago, the time is sure ripe to hone in on yet another icon. Actually, they should have gone after those Donny & Marie dolls in the late 70s - at least my little sister had the sense to hang 'em by their necks over the stairwell.
Moto: A couple things... by westwood13	Sep 8th, 2007 02:37:32 PM
Not to pick a fight, just pointing a few things out, assuming someone hasn't already beat me to it... First: The acronym was reported first in VARIETY when the story originally broke. FOX News didn't make it up. Second: G.I. JOE was never an acronym. It was, as you point out, a "code name." In the comics, it was a nickname given to them as a tribute to General Joseph Colton, the first "Joe." Their official name was "Special Counter-terrorist Group Delta." Third: No, they were never based in Brussels. They were an elite unit of the U.S. military and were originally based in a secret bunker called "The Pit" underneath the motor pool of the Chaplain's Assistant School at Fort Wadsworth. Later bases were located in Utah and Arizona. Never abroad. Fourth: None of this matters. It's useless geek trivia. The whole point is that they've taken something that's uniquely American and are trying to take the America out of it and it's futile. People aren't that stupid. G.I. JOE is always going to mean American soldier, no matter how many times they tell us it doesn't. The fact of the matter is that the producers are afraid of this material. They're second-guessing everything to do with it because they don't get it and they don't know what to do with it. That's always a bad sign. They're rushing this into production with a start date and no script. That's another bad sign. And to cover their insecurity, they're just going to throw money at it and hope it works. Bad sign #3. They need to embrace this for what it is or leave it alone. It could wind up being successful, but it definitely won't be G.I. JOE.
Oh, who gives a crap? They're Grunts blowing shit up. by TallBoy66	Sep 8th, 2007 02:39:27 PM
And its based around their cool gagetry or whatever gimmick is for each specific Joe. I watched the 80s cartoon and I didn't care they were American, hell, I'm Canadian. All I cared about was the cool different types of badguys and goodguys they had, each with their own thing. And then they blow stuff up. So they won't wave stab a waving American flag into Cobra Commander's chest. Boo-freakin-hoo. Its still gimmick-y cartoon-y military action. That's the core right there.
Paramount Sucks: Give Us Back Our American Hero by kenichi tanaka	Sep 8th, 2007 02:39:35 PM
I'm pissed that Paramount would come to this decision. To completely destroy one of the biggest icons if American Culture and turn it into little more than a propoganda machine for global politics is nothing short than a slap in the face from the thousands, possibly millions of fans of this franchise. For generations, fans of the classic animated series have grown up on watching "G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero" and now to have the series so drastically altered and removing all possibilities of G.I. Joe being part of the U.S. military? HELLO??? Is anybody home??? G.I. Joe consisted of soldiers from the United States branches of the military: US Army, US Air Force, US Marines, US Navy ... If I didn't know better, I'd swear that Paramounjt is either a front for Al Queda or quite possibly the United Nations ... I know I'll be boycotting this movie ...
Oh, and another thing by Charles Sheen	Sep 8th, 2007 02:46:44 PM
You dorks DO realize that the cartoon itself later changed to "an INTERNATIONAL hero", right? No? Fans indeed.
Guys, guys by Theta	Sep 8th, 2007 02:49:38 PM
The source on this is FOX NEWS. Not exactly noted for A) being fair and balanced towards those who compete with the parent company in other arenas (let's not forget Fox and Paramount are direct competitors) and B) telling the truth. Is Paramount going to make sure it has as much global appeal as possible? Yep, and they'll gladly rape your childhood to do it, because they don't care about you. They know that millions of Americans don't pay close enough attention and will buy tickets like sheep, and they also know you'll show up anyway to bitch.
The Reason Is Simple -- The U.S. Are The BAD GUYS Now by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 02:49:55 PM
The idea that America represents all that is good, righteous, and freedomtastic is OVER. Its been over for awhile (actually, if it ever was true), but now? After Bush and his Oil Baron cronies effectively turned the US into a Theocratic Imperial Power? After the human rights disaster of the Iraquagmire? Please. In the eyes of the world, and in at least 50% of the US itself, we are no longer even remotely aligned with anything good, righteous, or freedomtastic. We are the bad guys. Period. Thats why the best way to do this is to keep in a US force, and have Paul Verhoven direct it as a kind of STARSHIP TROOPERSesque over-the-top satire of the US's multiple foreign policy disasters.
Fox News bashers... by jfp2007	Sep 8th, 2007 02:53:13 PM
They're the most fair and balanced of the lot. All you little little libs and non-US people need to just STFU. You don't know what you're talking about b/c you get your info from 2nd hand, biased sources who feed you lies and propaganda. You're brainwashed and to the USA citizens in on it...you're traitors.
Holy Shit! That's Devon Miles from Knight Rider! by Pagz	Sep 8th, 2007 02:58:08 PM
Yo Edward Mulhare! The poor man's Michael Caine!
As long as they are fighting Cobra... by Exorcissy	Sep 8th, 2007 03:00:26 PM
And there are ninjas and other weird fucked up things, I really don't see making it an international force a problem. It makes more sense for it to be an international force. Now if they take away Cobra Comander and Destro and all the ninjas then we have something to complain about.
Mulhare = poor man's Michael Caine by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 03:02:27 PM
glad I'm not the only one to think that way!
WeinerPenis by ScrewParamount	Sep 8th, 2007 03:04:40 PM
You're a moron. Even when Bill Clinton was in office, the French were complaining and protesting about American culture. No way in hell would an unabashedly American movie done well in France. Not everything is Bush's fault.
P.C Joe by alienindisguise	Sep 8th, 2007 03:04:48 PM
all the execs behind this one can suck my balls. Seems like every major studio in the country has become pussified at the core. If something worked before, don't try and "fix" it to fit societies current views. Society as a whole are retards to begin with.
Not to brag, but... by strosmer	Sep 8th, 2007 03:09:55 PM
I actually saw Megaforce in the theater. Can anyone else make that claim? Huh? Can ya? My brother and I, were into G.I.Joe from the start of the 3-3/4" toy line and owned nearly every toy and figure, including the aircraft carrier. So though I have a great deal of nostalgia invested here, and I think a live-action movie version of this rather imaginative, albeit militaristic, universe would be a fascinating venture, it simply will never work. Forget the studio's concern about current political climate and toning down the hero aspect - even if a faithful approach to the toy line were attempted (sounds thus far like it won't even be close), my guess is the movie budget would need to be about $300m to pull off the idea of the seemingly unlimited (even impossible) resources available to Joe and Cobra that would make this a truly entertaining spectacle. Speedstream is right. Screw this one.
LaserPants, it's me again. Still pissed? by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 03:12:20 PM
Hi, Spence here, wish you're not still mad at me for my comments about your "Mandarin as a nano scientist" back in IM talkback^^ Anyway, I once again disagree. GI Joe needs the antithesis of Paul Verhoeven. It NEEDS Roland Emmerich. I mean, Verhoeven may be a far better director, but he'd only hammer down the opinion that the US forces are inherently evil. Some guys in Iraq may be looting museums or raping twelve year old girls, but 1/ Verhoeven wouldn't be allowed to shoot these scenes and 2/ he'd be too happy to kill half of the cast by the end of the film just for kicks. So I'd rather have that half-wit german Emmerich at the helm. At least it could be faithful, and if it's bad it will be HILARIOUSLY bad. When Verhoeven fails, it's pathetic; when Emmerich does (and we all know he would) it's funnier than a Monty Python movie.
Why Is AICN Taking Notes From FOX? by Colier Rannd	Sep 8th, 2007 03:12:55 PM
What Merrick, waanna be on O'Reilly next? The US has a right to heroes, but frankly, how many are there right now? Captain America could've been it if Marvel had had him do the right thing and stand up to the President. GI Joe could do the same. I have a feeling though, this is just more right-wing FOX spin.Don't blame liberals people, blame the fucking president.
Fox News-Roger Ailes whackoff time. by TomBodet	Sep 8th, 2007 03:14:39 PM
You know it is true.
strosmer: Megaforce in theater + GIJoe aircraft carrier by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 03:16:09 PM
= bastard! Back in the day, I'd have killed for both. Put the carrier on eBay and you're a rich man.
I take that back. by strosmer	Sep 8th, 2007 03:17:11 PM
Probably not $300m, but certainly more than the studio will be willing to spend.
Well Spence... by Anna Valerious	Sep 8th, 2007 03:18:04 PM
Since I don't know who has the duties of costume design on this film (And I have a feeling you want to see me as Barroness for some reason -meganeko-), I'm holding off. Anyway, how else could they market the film in the rest of the world? That's probably why they changed it.
hey spence by strosmer	Sep 8th, 2007 03:19:32 PM
Wish I still had the fucker. I think my mom garage-saled it after I got into high school. Thus the reason I am still trying to pay off my student loans personally.
Not Pissed, Trilby! by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 03:22:49 PM
I totally forgot about that! In fact, I see the weakness in my Mandarin reimaging. BUT, I still think he would have to be reimaged in some way; updated as a character. The way he is in the IRON MAN: Director of Shield comic seems to veer closer to where I was coming from, but still retaining the Ten Rings Of Power from Outer Space thang. Anyways, although I do see the flaws of my initial idea , I stand firmly behind the Verhoven idea. Of course, it would have to be scripted by Ed Neumeier! I mean, shit, ROBOCOP and STARSHIP TROOPERS are both totally hilarious satires of the American culture, and STARSHIP TROOPERS is easily the most hilariously brilliant gonzo satire of American foreign policy since DR. STRANGELOVE. Sure, another Emmerich-helmed disasterpiece would be funny in spite of itself, due to his ineptness as a director (and one would imagine, as a human being) but I think a Verhoven / Neumeier team up would be a classic. CLASSIC!
Forgot bad sign #4... by westwood13	Sep 8th, 2007 03:23:42 PM
This whole thing is the brainchild of Stephen Sommers, whose movies are a bit like eating all of your trick-or-treat candy at once. They sound like fun and they should be fun, but they never know when to stop and wind up making you sick.
F' You Steven Sommers by NHRonin	Sep 8th, 2007 03:26:53 PM
I hope this film bombs mightily. Sincerely, Everyone who has ever served honorably in the U.S. Military
This franchise does NOT need a movie... by JunoFallon	Sep 8th, 2007 03:30:31 PM
I grew up watching G.I. Joe and loved it as a kid, but I don't see the point in making this into a film. We've got too many army shoot em ups popping up as it is. We don't need another and POORLY made I might add.
Sometimes... by Stafford	Sep 8th, 2007 03:32:48 PM
I forget how awesome Barry Bostwick was in that movie. Today will not be one of those days. And as far as Joe goes, meh. For some reason I'm havin trouble caring. I didn't watch the show when I was a kid. If it was a Silverhawks or Visionaries movie I might get excited.
HOLD YOUR DAMN HORSES by tile_mcgillus	Sep 8th, 2007 03:33:00 PM
This is old news! Supposedly IESB.net broke the story down and has reports from Paramount saying they are bringing it back to the USA! http://tinyurl.com/yu57x3 "We got a call from of our friends over at Paramount studios who told us that Joe will in fact not be based in Brussels. Also, while the team will be made up from an international background, it will be based here in the States. Let’s keep our fingers crossed since we are so early into the script phase." Hopefully this is right.
GI Joe was American? by Garamond	Sep 8th, 2007 03:33:07 PM
See it on Fox "News" and you best take it with a grain of salt, a really big grain...real big now, like truck size. I grew up playing with those toys. I still have all of them in a dusty box somewhere, but it IS just a toy. I loved GI Joe because they had cool, detailed toys with a good tv/comic tie-in. Had nothing to do with chest thumping patriotism to me as a kid.
Nobody With Half A Brain Takes FOX NEWS Seriously by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 03:35:34 PM
Clearly FOX NEWS represents propaganda piped in directly from the Cheney/Bush regime. I mean, they hired ex-FOX NEWS anchor Tony "F*cking" Snow to be their press secretary for chrissakes! But, to the neocon mind, "fair and balanced" = you agree with whatever Bush says regardless of the fact that everything he has said has proven to have been either: 1) a bald-faced lie resulting in the deaths of untold thousands of innocent women and children both at home and abroad or 2) So far off from the real world as to represent a kind of Bizarroworld Drydrunk Narnia like affair for retardo theocratic redneck fucktards who just want to kill as many non-white, non-christians as possible regardless of the utter lack of justifable pretext. And that doesn't even take into account the Bush regime's monsterous incompetance. Worst "president" EVAR. Seriously, how many people still support the man? Like 10% of the country? Please. Just stop it.
re: strosmer/Valerious/Laser Pants by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 03:42:40 PM
strosmer: too bad for the carrier. I know where you come from: my mom litterally put to the garbge can dozens of Iron Man back issues AND a near-mint Nintendo Entertainment System with 30+ games when I was a kid. I could pay me a new car with those by now; Anna Valerious: Baroness or Scarlett, both suit me fine. Laser Pants: your cruel words back then branded my fragile little mind with a hot iron (pun intended) but that's the tough TB law. As for the Neumeier/Verhoeven team-up, as much as I love RoboCop (and Starship Troopers, to a lesser extent) I'd rather see a "serious" GI Joe adaptation. The same way I'd love to see a full-fledged Heinlein's faithfull adaptation (live action or anime, I don't care), complete with exoskeletons.
I think you're allowed to have American heroes by JonQuixote	Sep 8th, 2007 03:45:25 PM
But it's hard to make a movie right now that idolizes (and idealizes) the institution of the American military. I suspect a lot of the characters in this movie will be very American and very heroic - it sounds more like they want them to be serving something a little more clean-cut than the American military is right now. Which is kinda sensible - otherwise you're gonna make something that looks a lot like propaganda, whether you want to or not.
ACTION MAN already spelled doom for this long ago. by ShiftyEyedDog2	Sep 8th, 2007 03:45:41 PM
Even in their new "revised" draft, they're still trying to jam in some ass named "ACTION MAN" from England, and they're so worried about international interest in the film, theyre straying even farther and farther from the real Joe. It's doomed.
Megaforce.. by skimn	Sep 8th, 2007 03:46:43 PM
Good God, those clips were hilarious. Didn't realize that Hollywood cast an '80s action flick with an all gay porn cast.
Pork Chop Sandwiches!! by Ace Hunter	Sep 8th, 2007 03:56:37 PM
I'm fully supportive of a Megaforce movies with the stipulation that they wear the same attire. Also, Will Ferrell must play me. Kissing my thumb, Ace Hunter
This Megaforce clip screams "Bostwick as Solid Snake" by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 03:59:40 PM
You know it.
Does AICN rely on us TBers for their stories? by YackBacker	Sep 8th, 2007 04:08:03 PM
When I read this very story TWO WEEKS ago on another site, I didn't feel the need to bring it to this site's attention. Besides, you guys were into your 4,223rd story about SHOOT 'EM UP and couldn't bother talking about another project at the time. But, if you want some news, I hear they're making another Batman movie for release next year. Go hunt down that lead.
moto, originally "G.I. Joe" was not an acronym by YackBacker	Sep 8th, 2007 04:16:42 PM
G.I. stands for "government issue" and "Joe" is just a generic name used to describe a soldier in an old war movie. So, your challenge to find a reference to the term's meaning in prior incarnations is off the mark. But I agree, it's too early to bitch out this movie, but Steven Sommers has stolen a few hours of my life and I would like to kick him in the shins one day.
If you don't like America, fuck you by liljuniorbrown	Sep 8th, 2007 04:22:05 PM
Thats what Duke (played by Will Ferrell) should say as the opening line of the movie.Seriously though there is no country in the world that is perfect, none, wanna know why? Cause bull shit politicians run things, not the people who elect them. It's easy to bitch and say how much you hate the place where you live instead of trying to change things. The main reason this property will not have any American flags waving is not because of how we are viewed around the country,it's so that the studios can make more money when they release it over sea's. They don't want it to be to "poloarizing" .
Just saw The Mummy Returns by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 04:25:03 PM
I managed to avoid it for 6 years, and the movie somehow managed to make me pay for it. God, THAT was awful. At least Scorpion King had Kelly Hu and Bobby Sixkiller in it.
I love Liberals who get worked up about Fox News by krack	Sep 8th, 2007 04:33:23 PM
God forbid a television network not spend its entire newscast sledgehammering the Bush administration's balls. Who gives a fuck what network this report is from? First, the information is correct (it's been out there for weeks in the media before Fox News picked it up). And, second, it's blatently obvious that Hollywood would fuck this up as best they could. This is an infinitely easier property to get right than Transformers, yet it will be FUBARed by Hollywood idiots. And why shouldn't it be? The GI Joe film property is a "License to Print Money" (trademarked by Krack, Inc.) - why the fuck should the film's producers be expected to put any effort whatsoever into making a good film (respectful of the property), when all they have to do is shit out "Navy Seals: Part 2," slap the name "GI Joe" on it and make a profit? How dare we expect them to waste precious (golfing and coke snorting) time and energy making an effort?
Is Sean hannity in this? by TheRealSeveren	Sep 8th, 2007 04:34:57 PM
Id love to see him in a role he could really sink his teeth into. I only collected Cobra as a kid.
I Love America by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 04:35:27 PM
I just hate its current despots, er, rulers, er "elected" executive branch. Most people in the country feel the same these days (even the people who got feared into thinking the neocon regime weren't total idiots -- they've since woken up to the nightmare we've found ourselves in as newly minted imperial power under Halliburton). Its not the average joe's fault that the country is being run into the ground by an incompetant theocratic drydrunk oil billionaire, his boss Dick Cheney, and his various psychotic corporate cronies. The average joe hates em as much as the most progressive poli-sci college professor. In case you haven't noticed, the country has been gradually swinging to the left as the right kills itself.
BTW, I delighted Shoot Em Up bombed by krack	Sep 8th, 2007 04:37:56 PM
It's staring at a 12 to 15 million dollar run. Hopefully somebody is laughing at Don Murphy to his face (and many chins) as I type.
Fuck MEGAFORCE... by Mosquito March	Sep 8th, 2007 04:39:10 PM
...I want CONDORMAN!!!
Duke was always clownshoes anyways... by lynxpro	Sep 8th, 2007 04:43:40 PM
General Hawk should be in charge, with Scarlett, Snake Eyes, and Stalker being the favored members.
I'm Canadian, and I freakin' LOVED GI Joe! by mdf2	Sep 8th, 2007 04:48:33 PM
The 'Real American Hero' thing didn't really bother me then -- it was all about the good guys and their nifty gear standing up for what is right in the world and kicking Cobra bad guy arse. Which they did. Week after entertaining week. Watching the cartoon again, I found some of it dated more than a bit -- but still entertaining. And if they're making a movie out of this, that's all I want. This is escapism. The real world, and anyone opinions -- mine or otherwise -- shouldn't enter into it, or matter. They're American -- fine, keep 'em that way. Just make sure they're true to the original show -- and kick the right asses. But sadly, at this moment, I see the GI Joe franchise curled up on itself and hissing: 'I -- was once a MANNN...' ;)
Just got off the phone with mendoza.... by knifeandfork	Sep 8th, 2007 04:50:48 PM
He was all like : "K&F! Buddy! How ya been? Since all these 80s cartoons are being turned into movies, how about a Mysterious cities of gold movie huh? Ive got a script ready and everything, all i need is an investment of 80 million dollars ....." Needless to say, i hung up on him at that point . Also, GI JOE will suck, inaccurate Acronym or not.
Brussels is the (international) HQ for UNIT, not GI Joe by lynxpro	Sep 8th, 2007 04:51:51 PM
It had to be said.
Aragorn by GilesT	Sep 8th, 2007 05:09:29 PM
'Hyperbolic' isn't a verb, my friend. 'Hyperbolise' works, but only 'exaggerate' would've saved you from accusations of pretension.. Still, a trisyllabic word, clearly you don't work for Fox... ;-)
Merrick, what about your USA=bad guys in the V article? by Immortal_Fish	Sep 8th, 2007 05:11:42 PM
You just pulled a massive Nordling on this one. Regardless, who didn't see this coming anyway? Americans have become complacent -- even satisfied -- to think of themselves as being the bad guy since the 60's.
Stephen Sommers Just Raped My Childhood and America by The Green Monster	Sep 8th, 2007 05:22:17 PM
G.I. Joe always has been and should remain "a real American hero." I don't want to see the liberal lefty koombayah singers ruin this franchise. If this rumor turns out to be true, I'll be saving my money on this turkey.
Way to rape them childhoods! by Pops Freshemeyer	Sep 8th, 2007 05:30:52 PM
What does Hollywood ruin next, Bump & Jump? Rock N' Rope? Robotron 2084?
Wait... the bad guys, COBRA = by Immortal_Fish	Sep 8th, 2007 05:39:56 PM
Cabal Of Boisterous Retarded Americans. And manege to somehow find a way to make their logo look less like a cobra and more like a FOX!! I smell a giant international cash cow! But please do a simultaneous release with the Democratic National Convention to ensure somewhat of a decent domestic box office return.
So the acronym changes - who the fuck cares? by dastickboy	Sep 8th, 2007 05:48:11 PM
I could care less what GI Joe stands for, infact I think the change is more plausible. Make it a multi-national force, I always thought it was and not just one country's elite corps. Just make sure the characters are in there, they have badass vehicles and COBRA are evil bastards.
Now hear this..... by 1 And Only Son Of Tony	Sep 8th, 2007 05:57:55 PM
I'm English but I loved GI Joe as a kid. This movie is plain going to suck if continues in the direction it seems to be going. That is all
dastickboy - Why? by krack	Sep 8th, 2007 06:07:30 PM
Why change the team to a multi-national force when for 40 years it's been part of the United States military? It must have been okay for the first 40 years or else these Hollywood jackasses wouldn't have bought the rights to the name.
Damn right it wouldn't fly. by MikeTheSpike	Sep 8th, 2007 06:27:21 PM
Get a clue. Nobody wants to see a movie about a bunch of American douchebags running around the world shooting other people. Sorry to break to to you, kids. Maybe next time don't vote for Bush twice.
It does seem like they've completely missed the point. by brokentusk	Sep 8th, 2007 06:27:29 PM
I don't need to spell it out, but G.I. JOE is a distinctly American "hero". Changing the name reeks more of cowardice than prudence.
On the other hand... by brokentusk	Sep 8th, 2007 06:32:12 PM
If it's all about selling product overseas (both the film and the merchandise), then it could be a smart move. It doesn't really matter anyway, it's just G.I. JOE - last I checked, there were no giant robots involved.
GI Joe always had more foreigners than a Cali farm. by BMacSmith	Sep 8th, 2007 06:35:52 PM
who cares about the name? i dont
Once again: this is a 80s toy commercial movie.dont cry by BMacSmith	Sep 8th, 2007 06:38:19 PM
No one's childhood is being raped here. it will be stupid like transformers and you can still clutch your original gi joe movie.
Left wing nutjobs!! by JustyHakubi	Sep 8th, 2007 06:51:20 PM
Now their fucking castrating GI JOE! This is total fucking horse-shit. I want my damn heroes back. Hollywood needs to get their fucking head out of their ass and realize that there is more to the world than liberal-minded people. Not everybody hates the United States. Not everyone in America is a self-loathing liberal. They need to get the politics out of movie making. I was looking forward to the GI JOE movie. Yet after hearing this, fuck that. Give me back my GI JOE!! In addition, the GI JOE force was international. Yes, it was primarily "American". However, that force was defending freedom for all. And please, to the assholes who have a need to attack everything coming out of the 80's as commercial, please just turn on your NPR and go back to surfing moveon.org. Your shit is getting very tired. I honestly don't give a damn that a corporation made money while giving me entertainment. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Your live your life eating granola and not taking showers, I don't have live like that. So quit preaching your shit. You're just as bad as the televangelists that you hate.
WTF! HOLLYWOOD! by Violator90	Sep 8th, 2007 06:57:02 PM
Hell, fuck the G.I. Joe movie, make it the MINORITEAM movie.
Also...about that "Megaforce"....-ahem-....'traile r'... by Anna Valerious	Sep 8th, 2007 07:09:55 PM
That was probably Barry Bostwick's most degrading moment...besides dancing around in women's lingerie in "Rocky Horror". And Michael Beck was hot back in the day. :D
Whose fault is it? I don't give a fuck by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 07:11:21 PM
AICN + GIJOE + FOX = hilarity. Clueless people should take the politics out of the equation, for sure. The only culprits are those who pay (ie = don't sneak in) to see this. I sneaked into Bayformers (or TINO, or whatever the unhappy few name it) and enjoyed it. I'm already prinying my virtual fake tickets for this new Sommers CGI porn.
PRINTING my tickets by SpencerTrilby	Sep 8th, 2007 07:12:38 PM
but you caych my drift.
Progressives (aka "Liberals") Don't Hate America... by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 07:16:26 PM
They hate Bush, and what he's done to the country. If anyone hates America, its the rightwing nutjob neocons, who are far more akin to fascists than democratic freedom lovers. You know it, I know it, most of the country and the world knows it, so stop fronting neocons, yr uppance hath come. If you want to live in a state akin to Nazi Germany, why not go back there. I hear suicide is the best method of time travel. Also, you'll get to meet Jeebus in outer space! Wowzers!
This is a BAD idea by Neo Zeed	Sep 8th, 2007 07:23:17 PM
It's certainly the wrong time to be coming out with GI:Joe, but to bastardize it like this, makes Transformers look like Batman Begins.
westwood13... by moto	Sep 8th, 2007 07:27:51 PM
You didn't pick a fight at all. Fact is, it's good to see an intelligent viewpoint executed in a TB. I see your point. Yeah, it is stupid for the producers to be so paranoid about the American angle. As a fan of G.I. Joe, I say fuck the international viewpoint. BUT, I'm fine with it being an internationally based special forces unit. Throw in a couple characters with accents, that's fine with me. Who cares. Just as long as the characters keep their significant identities/specialties that stand apart from the others. And they use the latest technology, weapons, and vehicles to fight Cobra. As long as that happens, and they stick to the core concept I'm good. It's FAR BETTER than the atrocity that was the Skip Woods' version of the story with Action Man involved and a villian named Cool Dude.
My point I guess... by moto	Sep 8th, 2007 07:31:37 PM
... was that everyone is blowing this shit WAAAAAY out of proportion. It's a small detail. Yes, if they DWELL on the idea of G.I. Joe not being an American entity, if they keep bringing it up over and over then that's lame. If it's just G.I. Joe being based in Brussells rather than American soil, who cares? It makes more sense anyway as Cobra usually terrorizes the whole world. If it's just a small detail like that to give something for the international markets, fine. Just keep the core concept and use the characters from the show and comics. It's utterly stupid to freak out about this tiny detail.
what do we expect? by WolfmanNards	Sep 8th, 2007 07:37:33 PM
Transformers is a good example of the shit that they're willing to feed us, and evidently, we're willing to eat.
G.I Joe=Too American by SoylentMean	Sep 8th, 2007 07:42:46 PM
Fuckin' studio execs are worried about selling this overseas. Next they'll change the team to being members of the Swiss Guard. "We'd fight you and stop your oppressive ways, but here at G.I. Joe, we're uh, you know, neutral on shit like that".
MikeTheSpike, re: "running around shooting people" by Immortal_Fish	Sep 8th, 2007 07:56:45 PM
"Get a clue. Nobody wants to see a movie about a bunch of American douchebags running around the world shooting other people." First we can't go after Hussein, the one tyrant in the world with more baggage than the rest COMBINED, and now GI Joe is a bunch of "American douchebags running around the world shooting other" (and this is my, like, favoritist part, dude)... PEOPLE"...?!?!? LOL Cobra = "people" And we wonder why the rules of engagement don't permit us to win. But wait! There's more... "Sorry to break to to you, kids. Maybe next time don't vote for Bush twice." So now Bush is also responsible for the GI Joe being a UN equivalent? Eeesh. As you wrote, pal... "Get a clue." JOhn KErry said often (when pressed HARD) that he wouldn't have pulled out of Iraq. At least not before he did. No surprise there. That man hasn't done a fucking thing in Massachusetts for several decades. GI Joe = glorified UN taskforce is a bad idea. I'd kinda like to see at least one bullet fired in a GI Joe movie. Or laser beam, or grenade toss, or whatever.
LaserPants, not many conservatives are fans of Bush by Immortal_Fish	Sep 8th, 2007 08:05:06 PM
"Republican," "NeoCon," and "Conservative" are all very mutually exclusive terms. It'd be nice if some of the folks on the other side of the aisle would come to grips with that fact. Anyhow, most conservatives have distanced themselves from Bush. Similar to how they distanced themselves from Craig and Foley. It'd be nice if the other side would come to grips with these facts too. You can keep your Barney Franks and Gerry Studds all day long if you like. We'd prefer not to. "Also, you'll get to meet Jeebus in outer space!" Ahh, yet another nugget of sweetness from the party of tolerance.
Let's send Paramount some cash by Bluereader	Sep 8th, 2007 08:28:49 PM
Those cheap cocksuckers bow down to the dollar (look at HD-DVD). Let's start a paypal account to make Joe American again (that is the American way).
Let's send Paramount some cash by Bluereader	Sep 8th, 2007 08:28:50 PM
Those cheap cocksuckers bow down to the dollar (look at HD-DVD). Let's start a paypal account to make Joe American again (that is the American way).
krack "Navy Seals: Part 2," would be an upgrade by instruction	Sep 8th, 2007 08:30:50 PM
to the shit they're gonna give us
Hey Merrick - They already remade MEGAFORCE by Manos	Sep 8th, 2007 08:33:08 PM
IT was called Delta Force...same bikes, same plane, same dune buggies, and of course Chuck Norris, who thankfully never wore a gold jumbsuit.
Er- Sorry for the typo by Manos	Sep 8th, 2007 08:34:44 PM
JUMPSUIT
I question this site by instruction	Sep 8th, 2007 08:35:09 PM
How the fuck can you be over 20, grew up in America,work for or at a genre site, and NOT know about G.I. Joe? I mean say outright you damn near never heard of it? Then put up a quote from an article that's not even accurate. IESB or superherohype or ANY site other than AICN, IMDB's fuckin MESSAGE BOARDS, have the correct info on this. How the fuck, in god' name, can this site, be so godamn slow, day in, and month out, on news scoops? They were goin with the Brussels, international angle,but changed it back to america with a diverse special ops team from around the world, or some such bullshit. My post is late and even it's earlier than the shit y'all put up.
Who cares if it's an international task force now. by The Founder	Sep 8th, 2007 08:40:56 PM
Will this really hinder the success of GI JOE? I think not. So what is it's an international peace keeping force, as long as they are taking on the World terroist organization known as Cobra.
an international force MAKES MORE SENSE by HamiltonGeyser	Sep 8th, 2007 08:43:26 PM
unless its the 80s. its just an update for the new world we live in. this isnt a big deal.
I think she would worry more about Sommers. by The Founder	Sep 8th, 2007 08:45:02 PM
Really. I worry more about him then changing what GIJOE stand for. Who in the hell want the correct history of GIJOE? It too was cartoon to sell toys.
Well, I Did Say Neocons, Immortal Fish by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 08:49:55 PM
Knowing the difference between actual conservatives (I kinda like the libertarian thang, they're the cool conservatives) and wacko rightwing nutjobs. And, though its true I mock all religion as being ridiculous, its still a choice, and therefore open to ridicule. Being born homosexual, however, is a birthright, a genetic inheritance, not a choice, and therefore to hate them is inhumane bigotry (Nazi-esque, if you don't mind my saying so). If yr one of them thar God believers, I'll brak it down for ya -- He "designed" them that way. Who are you to front the word of GOD?! Finally, I thought the problem with Craig and Foley weren't their gayness, but their sleazy, hypocritical, perversity. Hooking up with teenage boys and policemen in airport bathrooms is gross -- the desperate acts of men forced to hide who they are. Never heard of Barney Frank coming onto a teenage boy page, or trying to suck copcock in a friggin bathroom stall! Gay does't = perverted. PERVERTED = perverted. For proof of this, see the Catholic Church.
Dont fucking make it then by Geek Sodomizer	Sep 8th, 2007 09:10:58 PM
If it's not fucking U.S. then its not fucking G.I. Joe. FUCK THIS SHIT.
that Youtube Megaforce clip was rockNHILARIOUS by future help	Sep 8th, 2007 09:14:26 PM
more entertaining than QT's Death Proof.
Ahhh, capitalism! by Dr. Chim Richalds	Sep 8th, 2007 09:45:52 PM
That most American of pursuits. The studio is simply doing what it thinks will maximize its profits. Why would it care if this decision costs $10 million domestic, if it gains $20 million overseas? Do you think that patriotism is going to get in the way of a business decision? There's no conspiracy here, though I can see that many people are manipulating the situation to fuel their misinformed political agendas.
Make it an international team... by waylayer	Sep 8th, 2007 09:52:33 PM
...and all it becomes is Rainbow 6. Keep it American. The rest of the world's box office be damned.
I saw Megaforce in the Theater by kevinwillis.net	Sep 8th, 2007 09:55:32 PM
But probably won't go see this. Hollywood is sucking out the uniquely American part of American icons, like Superman--which was anemic, not just because they were unwilling to say that Supes fights "for the American way", but because that attitude of their being no such thing as American exceptionalism infused every fame. Made an iconic character tedious. Megaforce, though . . . now, there was a movie.
Space Hunter in the Forbidden Zone in 3D by kevinwillis.net	Sep 8th, 2007 09:55:58 PM
With Molly Ringwald was also good.
Miami Vice all over again by jimbojones123	Sep 8th, 2007 10:03:33 PM
Source material is so overrated.
I Think a Global International Force Will Make by kevinwillis.net	Sep 8th, 2007 10:04:34 PM
A great fighting team. Scene one--a strongly worded letter is written to a despot with a nuclear missile aimed at every European nation. Scene two, several blue-helmeted members of the G.I. Joe Justice Team sit by while innocent women and children are raped and murdered because no one at command with authorize protecting them, as it would be considered interfering with another nations sovreignitry. Scene three, ten resolutions condeming the despotism of the nuclear madman threatening to destroy Europe are drafted and argued about. Scene four, the leader of the G.I. Joe International Justice Court, blames the U.S. and it's energy use for inspiring the nuclear madman, and the nuclear madman issues a press release agreeing that it is, indeed, America's fault that he's been driven to threaten Europe with anhilation. Scene Five, Republicans in congress draft a bill that will stop the U.S. from sending billions of dollars in financial aid to said madman every year, Democrats fight the measure tooth and nail, saying that not sending the nuclear madman billions in tax payer dollars will only make the nuclear madman 'angry'. Bill Clinton is flown in with a re-animated Nevil Chamberlain, Hugo Chavez, Nelson Mandella and Fidel Castro. A deal is struck for the U.S. to release all suspected terrorists, give them guns, and send billions of foreign aid to nations that pledge death to America. Newspaper headlines read: "Peace in our time." This is going to be such an awesome movie.
Man, My Spelling is Awesome by kevinwillis.net	Sep 8th, 2007 10:06:39 PM
"Sovreignitry". And grammar: "no one with authorize". Etc. Damn it, Republicans are stupid. I'm living proof.
LaserPants by kevinwillis.net	Sep 8th, 2007 10:09:40 PM
The contortions you go through to justify your selective hatred and bigotry are most impressive. Better than a Chinese acrobat.
If the studio "planted" this story by jimbojones123	Sep 8th, 2007 10:17:51 PM
I hope they got the reaction they wanted!
G.I. Joe as an international force? by vezner2007	Sep 8th, 2007 10:27:06 PM
No thanks. I'll not be watching, buying, or even renting such a blasphemy. This is by far the biggest shit I've ever seen a studio make on one of these "cartoon to movie" type films. It's insulting to everyone that grew up watching G.I. Joe. End of story.
Two things about Megaforce video... by Freefinger	Sep 8th, 2007 10:52:49 PM
1) was that Devon White from Knight Rider at the start of the clip!?!?! Was this before Knight Rider?? I'm thinking that Devonbailed on the Megaforce team when he saw how ridiculous the future Mayor of New York city, Barry Bostwick (aka Mayor Randall M. Winston Jr. - Spin City) was acting and got a dude in tight jeans to drive his talking black Firebird!! Mouahaahhahahaah!! 2) What the heck was that team?!?! Gay parade 1982?!?!? Look at the clip... "It's Hunter" they rejoice, the guy with the mustache is really happy, and the rest of the crew, who are wearing tights to ride dumbass looking motorcyles with steam coming out of the exhaust scream in shear joy to see their headband wearing leader catching up to them so he can ..ehem.. mount.. the plane from the rear with higly powered engine!... MOUAHAHAHAAHAHAH Man how cheesy the world was in 1982!!
i grew up on joe...but its propaganda by CQuest	Sep 8th, 2007 11:11:39 PM
its CLEARLY propaganda. i mean cmon. this was ok in the 80s, but doesnt fly nowadays. its why superman doesnt fly anymore. the world is SICK AND TIRED of the white american hero who is ultra patriotic, and especially in the joe sense, a military man. it just doesnt fly. in this new world....order....its international. thats how it SHOULD be. cobra international, joe international. live with it you white boys.
LaserPants by Immortal_Fish	Sep 8th, 2007 11:17:29 PM
I'm a libertarian, agnostic, Powhatan. So, fuck you. And get off my lawn. But before you do that, please do google up the wild and crazy antics of those two multiple re-elected officials from Massachusetts, Barney Frank and Gerry Studds. You know, from the same state that has continuously elected the waste of human flesh windbag known as JOhn KErry. Asshole.
Republicans Funded Al Queda, Bin Laden & Saddam Hussein by LaserPants	Sep 8th, 2007 11:21:55 PM
Talk about yr madmen! And the US bankrolled them all under the auspices of the Republican "leadership." Tawk about yr foreign policy disasters! And not ones you just made up for limp satiric intent kevinwillis, but ACTUAL EVENTS! Inspired by yr heroes! Reagan, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush Sr. and Jrs.! Wowzers! Amazing how, when you look at the history, its the rightwing nutjobs all along! With the left being mostly a indignant bark, and no bite. Something to do with limitless resources and wealth coming up against limited resources. Rich guys tend to win... and then fuck things up royally. (LaserPants says as he leaps, Chinese acrobat like, over the heads of the neocons, who, secretly prowling around bathrooms across america, looking for the blessed copcock, pretend they have a f*cking clue, their "movement" literally dying as they sputter, dissemble, and point the finger of blame at a President long out of office, for fear, one should suppose, of facing the monster in the mirror, the pulpit, the dream that died, the votes they cast, the nightmare it always was. Gawd bless Halliburton!)
LaserPants You Ignorant Slut by James Westfall	Sep 8th, 2007 11:22:52 PM
Who did Tony Snow work for before he was an anchor at FNC? He worked for the first Bush Administration. Oh what a scandal - he went back to work for our current President! Oh the shame! Hopefully your disdain cuts just as deep for George Stephanopoulos, who was a Clintonista who went on to become an ABC News bigshot. Or is he okay since he's a Commiecrat?
Please!!!!!!!!!!!!! by boogy110	Sep 8th, 2007 11:27:35 PM
Please don't make a GI JOE Movie. It will totally suck balls. Make a cartoon movie all you want, but NOT A LIVE ACTION FLICK!!!
Mega Force? by boogy110	Sep 8th, 2007 11:28:23 PM
That was the sittiest fucking movie of all time. I even liked Street Fighter better, WTF???
The Price You Pay... by DeeJay	Sep 8th, 2007 11:30:33 PM
... when a marketing executive speaks to a reporter who doesn't seem to understand the source material. The original article looks to be at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0 ,2933,296054,00.html. The article is an awkward read, and just may be a prime example of the "Narrative Fallacy." The author's description of the 80's incarnation of the toy line was bizarre, and some of her key assertions were supported by no quotes or sources. Unfortunately, the direction of this discussion just might provide a blueprint for future online misinformation campaigns. Apparently, it's quite easy to press the patriotic buttons on some fanboys. Too easy.

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