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Faith The Vampire Slayer Makes Her 'Season 8' Debut Today!!

misssster garibaldi by frankenfickle	Sep 6th, 2007 01:34:01 AM
garibaldi shot first.
hehe 2nd I guess. by tristeele	Sep 6th, 2007 01:42:17 AM
yeah second
Wish it was news of a TV show... by hansello	Sep 6th, 2007 01:51:03 AM
The character of Faith provides perhaps the strongest possibility of a 'successful' TV spin off. With the 'Fox' thing recently, here's hoping that there is still a chance.
I'm kinda sorry by Duke of Hurl	Sep 6th, 2007 03:01:42 AM
the hack has you stuck up his ass.
Stop pretending... by 11dayempire	Sep 6th, 2007 03:51:27 AM
...that the comics are a TV series. You need to let go, man. I thought this was news of a Faith TV series.
No Whedon by SUPERJIM	Sep 6th, 2007 04:21:07 AM
On TV? Come one people, Eliza Dushku (spelling?) can't be that busy, and as far as I know Joss is doing very little too. The time is ripe. I miss these shows.
Ya gotta have Faith! by Yeti	Sep 6th, 2007 06:03:18 AM
Bugs me to no end though that spin offs and movies that have a lot of potential can't seem to get off the ground.
Everyone is correct about this comic. by tonagan	Sep 6th, 2007 07:22:42 AM
I continue to refuse that it's canon. It's like they took everything that was weak about Season 7 and continued along that vein.
Tonagan: The comic book series is canon until... by SpyGuy	Sep 6th, 2007 07:31:35 AM
...something more "official" like a TV movie or film project comes along to contradict it. And since Whedon himself is writing and acting as "showrunner" for this series, you might as well accept it. I mean, if you could accept those crappy Seasons 6 & 7 as canon, then this should be an automatic given.
Im sorry by Falcon5768	Sep 6th, 2007 07:41:06 AM
Season 6 was not crappy, the fact that many Buffy fans think it was just shows how terrible their perception of "good" is. 7 was crap though. It was very very rushed when it came out it was the last season. They should have just ended it like the comic with Buffy disappearing and all the evil on earth dying with her. They where obviously going for it with the sheer number of references to Fray, but then it just got warped.
I will never accept it as canon! Ever!!! by tonagan	Sep 6th, 2007 07:59:24 AM
Unless the writing and art get much better, I guess. Even then, it's like the New WKRP in Cincinnati.
I she gonna get nekkid? by Damned if I can login	Sep 6th, 2007 08:05:30 AM
Let's be real, folks...that's the only question that matters. Ms. Dushku always struck me as one who could easily suck the chrome off'a trailer hitch. Waitaminnit...that was damned near all the chicks on that show. I correct myself.
that's awesome that Babylon 5 is selling so cheap. by warp11	Sep 6th, 2007 08:26:33 AM
It really is an amazing show. Really.
Why the hostility towards the comics?? by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 6th, 2007 08:31:04 AM
Sorry, thought this argument was over. The comic IS season 8...you don't have to like it. I just don't understand how you could be interested in 'Faith' and would have been interested in a show, but refuse to read the EXACT SAME ADVENTURE in a comic book. Must be too 'mature' for the medium or something (?)
If anything, I'm too immature for comics. by tonagan	Sep 6th, 2007 08:39:03 AM
I'm all over the Buffy coloring books, though.
brian k. vaughn > whedon by PVIII	Sep 6th, 2007 08:47:41 AM
pride of baghdad, y: the last man, ex machina, and the list goes on...
CarmillaVonDoom... by 11dayempire	Sep 6th, 2007 08:54:16 AM
Nothing against the comic per se, I just hate Herc's relentless cheerleading of it, pretending that it's a TV show when it clearly isn't. When I see a headline in the TV column about "Buffy Season Eight," I might reasonably expect it to be about an eighth season of Buffy on, y'know, TV.
FUNNYBOOK???!!!!! by Macstone	Sep 6th, 2007 08:55:18 AM
Thems fightin' words bub!
I actually prefer Kim Possible over Buffy. by teethgnasher	Sep 6th, 2007 08:57:40 AM
It really is a better show.
Heh heh you have to know what to expect here by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 6th, 2007 09:16:25 AM
The cheerleading you speak of can, and will, become even MORE relentless. I think it is hilarious.
Thanks for the reminder Herc by v for vienetta	Sep 6th, 2007 09:30:12 AM
Picked it up at lunch - great as always, just too damn short!
also... by v for vienetta	Sep 6th, 2007 09:32:08 AM
...is it just me or was that David Tennant as Doctor Who with Rose in panel 1 of page 32?
still think Damages is better than Mad Men. by PVIII	Sep 6th, 2007 09:43:30 AM
But Mad Men is still baller.
Who is this Whedon guy I keep reading about? by hank henshaw	Sep 6th, 2007 09:56:53 AM
Ok, ok. I know who he is, but... does he really deserve all the attention you people give him in this site?
hank henshaw by PVIII	Sep 6th, 2007 09:57:41 AM
clearly he does not.
Yes he does by TheNothing	Sep 6th, 2007 10:02:56 AM
That is all.
I'm no whedonite by Harold The Great	Sep 6th, 2007 10:11:05 AM
But it never fails to amuse me when you guys start bitching about AICN giving too much attention to certain projects or creators. Why would they have to take your taste and personal preferences in account. If they want to run a story about Eliza Doshku's slightly bigger left boob, or the size of Whedon balls, and how they lick them they fucking will. If you're not interested in an article don't read it. If your not interested in most articles, don't come to the site.
Hey, I'm not complaining. by PVIII	Sep 6th, 2007 10:18:18 AM
Herc's already said that he gives too much attention to Whedon, and if it bothers you stop reading coax. It bothers me a little that we get fake whedon rumors instead of a talkback for Damages, Eureka, or Madmen, but I'm still here and dealing.
Who actually reads this site for breaking news? by Damned if I can login	Sep 6th, 2007 10:33:21 AM
I know I don't...
Is there badass Spike action? by PirateEmery	Sep 6th, 2007 10:38:18 AM
No? Then I'm not interested.
Hey, stop complaining about people complaining. by tonagan	Sep 6th, 2007 10:39:33 AM
The next post will be someone complaining about people that complain about people complaining about people complaining. Mark my words.
Gotta catch up by Harold The Great	Sep 6th, 2007 11:07:20 AM
on Mad Men I guess.
"So, let me ask you. Are you bored NOW?" by DanielKurland	Sep 6th, 2007 11:08:10 AM
Only really, really awesome moment from the comics so far in my opinion. Strange that Whedon would ask Vaughn to write the Faith movie, rather than himself (he could take the time to write a 2 hour script), or Goddard, who seems to have become the next-Whedon.
Angel, please give us more Angel and less Buffy by liljuniorbrown	Sep 6th, 2007 11:14:58 AM
I'm sorry, I never watched one episode of Buffy during it's initial run but my girlfriend had only one show she watched on a regulr basis(you guessed it) and eventualy she got me into it. While in the service I watched alot of Angel dvd's during down time, it became my all time favorite. If Whedon loves his fans at all he will make a Angle tv movie happen.
Season 7 started off incredibly strong... by DanielKurland	Sep 6th, 2007 11:19:39 AM
Every episode up until Bring on the Night (almost half the season) is so, so good. But then everything just became repititous and treading water. Did we really need "Touched"? No, we didn't. And having Buffy find a Turok-han incredibly hard to kill, and then having Anya and Xander killing them was just foolish. Why was it even a danger if the vampires got out of the Hellmouth, into the school? It was DAY. These vampires were still killed by the sun, weren't they? Also, Buffy probably looked worse in comparison while Angel was putting on season 4, and arguably some of the best stuff (excluding the Cordelia stuff) that they had ever done.
Doctor Who Cameo! by daroru	Sep 6th, 2007 11:33:43 AM
Anyone notice the Doctor and Rose cameo? Nice one...
I'll take Faith over Buffy any day! by Tacom	Sep 6th, 2007 11:45:38 AM
Buffy became such a whiny bitch in the later seasons. Faith was a bitch too but she was a FUN bitch!
Node by PVIII	Sep 6th, 2007 12:28:52 PM
I wouldn't exactly call 'Damages' slumming - just look at the cast - Ted Danson, Glen Close, Tate Donovan and me lovin some Rose Byrne. Also created by a Sopranos writer and used some of the same directors (I believe). Anyways, I find the writing/ directing really sharp, and I'm loving the show just as much as MM.
Canon by KanekoFan	Sep 6th, 2007 12:58:43 PM
This is not Catholicism, and Joss Whedon is not the pope (although Joss Whedon IS closer to being my spiritual savior than any religioso I ever met). There is no reason for anyone to subscribe to anybody else's notion of what is 'canon,' even the creator's. And individual's relationship with a work of art is completely personal, and what is and is not 'real' to a given audience member will never be truly up to anybody else.
actually, Dushku will be busy by oisin5199	Sep 6th, 2007 01:41:10 PM
since she signed a contract with Fox TV - even though Tru Calling was cancelled and her Grey's Anatomy ripoff pilot (Nurses) didn't make the cut, they have a 6 figure development deal with her. And as much as I love Joss's work in the comics, I think overall Vaughan is a better comic writer in terms of overall plot and theme. So I'm definitely looking forward to this arc. And how come every time there's a talkback for the Buffy season 8, some idiot comes on here and says 'I thought this was a tv show. Bitch...moan...grumble.' Time to crawl out from under the rock. It's a comic. Joss considers it canon. You can accept that if you want or you can stamp your foot and hold your breath. Good luck with that.
You are correct fiester... by Damned if I can login	Sep 6th, 2007 03:33:09 PM
She's a smoker. And I stand by what I said about her suckin' the chrome off'a trailer hitch. Yeahboy.
I thought this was a TV show. by tonagan	Sep 6th, 2007 03:34:57 PM
Bitch...moan...grumble.
Node by PVIII	Sep 6th, 2007 03:45:07 PM
also the southern-accented attorney who's also in a bunch of law and orders...so yeah. I kid, I kid. But seriously I've like Rose Byrne in everthing I've seen her in, especially Sunshine and 28 Weeks Later. Super cute.
Joss should've made an Angel movie instead of Serenity by Neo Zeed	Sep 6th, 2007 05:03:51 PM
It would've kept the Buffyverse franchise going, and it already had a larger fanbase than Firefly. Angel: had 5 seasons. Firefly: blink and you missed it. Also, Underworld and Blade were franchise hits (except for blade 3 but it probably made money on video), so there was a vampire action franchise to capitalize on. To stretch even more, supernatural thrillers like Constantine and horror flicks were (are) getting greenlit all the time. Instead Whedon chose to make Serenity...a movie that even Whedon admitted would be a tough sell to moviegoers.
Just read it by KanekoFan	Sep 6th, 2007 05:15:28 PM
Grabbed it during my lunch break, and things are slow enough at work that I was able to sit down and read it. I think this is the best issue they're released thus far, and that by a pretty wide margin. Vaughn strikes a better balance of charcter and plot beats than Whedon generally does (in the comics, that is, because I think Whedon is one of the best TV writers ever), though it helps that, so far, he's telling a smaller, more personal story. I've always found the comic format most effective when it's being used for intimate character studies, rather than epic stories.
Angel movie by KanekoFan	Sep 6th, 2007 05:32:18 PM
Neo Zeed, I see your point about the Buffyverse having a bigger fanbase than Firefly, and you're certainly right that Serenity never had a good shot at being a big success. But every once in awhile (and the attitude I'm about to display, I'll admit, is part of why I have not yet been able to get one of my own modest movies financed in this soul-sucking town), storytellers should take the opportunity to tell those stories that matter to them, even if they are hard sells. The cancellation of Firefly rendered it an esoteric property, but in the same stroke it left an entire 'verse open for further exploration, a story important to its author that almost had to go untold. On the other hand, while many people may feel that Angel was cancelled before its time, the ending that was concocted brought an excellent sense of narrative closure, while, importantly, leaving the fates of the individual characters up in the air, which only served to emphasize that the mission is more important than the members. I would actually be quite disappointed if I were given a cinematic next chapter in Angel's un-life, because I think that story should be permitted the ending that it has.
Agreed- best issue yet by Charlie Murphy	Sep 6th, 2007 05:32:47 PM
not that whedon's weren't good, because they were, but vaughan clearly has a better grasp at writing COMICS than whedon does. joss may have his characters down, but his comic style needs work. (i think that applies to his x-men work as well). vaughan really wrote a kick ass book here, and i can't wait to see what's next.
Faith by NudeandAroused	Sep 6th, 2007 05:35:10 PM
I missed out on issue number 5. Still, love Faith! Have we ever learned her last name? On a much more serious note, a person who was truly gifted, the great Pavarotti, died today.
Jo Chen or Georges Jeanty covers?? by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 6th, 2007 05:53:41 PM
Anybody have a big preference? I ended up subscribing to get both copies not being able to choose one. Two completely different styles...the last cover with the Buffy mask was amazing! Favorite cover so far for me is the Joan Chen one of Willow (issue #3 or #4)
Angel Season 6 is a go from IDW... by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 6th, 2007 05:56:39 PM
I've always preferred Angel too. Probably been mentioned here on the site 200 times already, BUT...the new season is called "After the Fall.' Hopefully every issue will have a variant cover of Illyria by a different artist every month.
Faith's last name: by Hercules	Sep 6th, 2007 06:29:54 PM
Lehane. Whedon had to come up with one for a video game or something.
I already won't accept the Angel comic as canon either. by tonagan	Sep 6th, 2007 06:49:05 PM
The series ended perfectly - why screw that up?
KanekoFan by Neo Zeed	Sep 6th, 2007 07:06:55 PM
But they are continuing the story in comic form (courtesy of IDW), which indicates that there are more stories to tell. Joss and co even said that season 6 would've taken place after the apocolypse. I understand that Joss wanted to explore Firefly, and he wanted to make it up to his cast for the untimely cancellation. However, I still think it was bad timing. He should've went with his bigger success...then with an actual hit movie under his belt (even just a modest one) he could THEN persue the Firefly movie. Even if Serenity still tanked, we'd at least have the Buffyverse alive and kicking in live action form. In Hollywood, you're only as good as your last hit.
Thanks for clarifying by KanekoFan	Sep 6th, 2007 07:22:31 PM
Neo Zeed, I thought you were decrying the decision to make Serenity at all. My mistake, and I agree that the timing could have been much better. And while I know they had more stories to tell with the Angel characters, and would have loved to see the series last longer, my point is that, when pressed, they came up with an ending that I consider so perfect that I don't think they'll be able to match it. I hadn't heard anything about season 6 taking place after the apocolypse, and it rather surprises me, since everything I'd heard indicated that they cooked up that ending pretty quickly, and that emotionally it was a reflection of their feelings about the show's cancellation. For some reason, I don't mind the idea of the show being continued in comics form; I'd just rather not see it go on in a motion picture medium. I guess I feel like comics inherently represent such a different approach to storytelling that stories in that format won't be stepping on the toes of the extant material.
Jo Chen or Georges Jeanty covers by newc0253	Sep 6th, 2007 07:50:05 PM
I have the Jeanty covers for #1-4 and like his cover for #6 too but i went with the Chen one this time: it's just too damn good.
I'm going to gamble (and likely regret it) and wait by Yeti	Sep 6th, 2007 08:18:46 PM
for the whole comic (all 26 issues)to be available as one large coffee table book.
torpor_haze chose Jo Chen, here's why.... by torpor_haze	Sep 6th, 2007 09:50:35 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3xlhbq
torpor_haze chose ... wisely by newc0253	Sep 7th, 2007 03:37:48 AM
yes, that sound you heard was my head-exploding when i saw the next chen cover.
I have a query... by buffywrestling	Sep 7th, 2007 04:57:55 AM
First and for most: I bought the Serenity DVD CE from this site but the blooper reel is the same from the last DVD. But I was sent a early segment by 'puter, when the show had ended, which showed a blooper reel that showed Captain Mal in a tracking shot around a coffin of one of his "campadres" which was one of the most fucking funny scenes I have ever witnessed. I KNOW there are more outtakes: Why not shoW them? Second, this arguement of Buffy vs Faith - Who is better? - has already been answered. Buffy won. It's canon... It's not hard to read between the lines that Joss was getting frustrated with SMG and the SMG was thought she was getting shuffled back because of the Dark!Rosenberg storyline. S6 sucked for Buffy but was great for the supporting cast. Jealousy ensues. I am also of the mind of Jedi: I'll wait for the "big book" of Season 8. I am too old to be piece mealing shit. And if I die before I wake, at least I don't know what I'm missing...
Firefly is currently $20 at Amazon... by tonagan	Sep 7th, 2007 05:41:49 AM
It's one of those 24-hour dealies that Herc is always talking about, so get yer mitts on it if you haven't already.
Wait....20$ for the entire series??? by buffywrestling	Sep 7th, 2007 07:26:18 AM
Are we just finding gold now? Gold is just everywhere??
I'm spent. by buffywrestling	Sep 7th, 2007 07:33:25 AM
Cereal. I've laid out about three bones on this cheque. But if Herc can give the "bob's your uncle" whenever the Homicide: Life On The Streets complete set is on sale - Eternal Gratitude. I miss me some Bayliss and Pembletom action.
Angel Finale by Fernwick_	Sep 7th, 2007 08:23:32 AM
Personally I think the finale was damn good. Most of the things that happen are pretty damn shocking even for a finale... but yeah, it blows my mind that with all the C R A P on TV today that a cable channel, PAX TV or CW, or SOMETHING wont backroll Whedon. For the sake of Pete, he has BUILT in cult audiences, just tell him keep it cheap, double the DVD prices and PROFIT, and ENJOY THE DAMN STORIES, whats wrong with you people in TV?
Jo Chen vs. Georges Jeanty? No contest! by DEX	Sep 7th, 2007 08:30:33 AM
Jo Chen is an amazing talent. Georges Jeanty's art is kind of amateurish. Comic companies always make the same mistake with adapting movie or tv projects. Usually, they get mediocre artists just because they have some talent with drawing likenesses. Jeanty isn't even consistent, some drawings will look like the actors (where I suppose he has photo reference) and then they look totally different on the same page sometimes. For comics, they should worry about getting great artists and not so much about the likenesses. Unless, you have someone like Jo Chen, who has it all...
big news from the comic stands was another vaughn title by PVIII	Sep 7th, 2007 08:54:24 AM
Y: The Last Man was fantastic. MAKE THIS MOVIE NOW! Stoopid Hollywood.
Firefly for onlyl $20! I knew there was a reason... by rbatty024	Sep 7th, 2007 10:01:33 AM
I didn't buy that show right away. Y: The Last Man will hopefully make a great film. I hope Vaughn is involved in the script. I still want my 100 Bulletts TV show goddamnit! Hell, the only television I watch anymore is The Daily Show, Mad Men, and Lost. That's it. Assuming all three are playing on a given week, that's only four hours of television worth watching. WTF!
PVIII: Forget Y: LAST MAN. Make an EX MACHINA movie! by SpyGuy	Sep 7th, 2007 10:27:13 AM
Matthew Fox as Mitchell Hundred, anyone?
Y:THE LAST MAN by drewlicious	Sep 7th, 2007 01:03:46 PM
I still think it would make a much better series than a movie. With the constraints of a movie I can almost guarantee it would be nothing but wasted potential. Besides I've heard the script so far practically mimics the comic, so no new suprises for the fans. As for this week's issue, let's just say they never cease to shock me. Now someone kill that Alter bitch.
This is some really cool TV news. by Meglos	Sep 7th, 2007 02:51:40 PM
I'm super serial.
I Will Keep the Dream Alive by Birdys Piano Teacher	Sep 7th, 2007 06:05:58 PM
I don't care--Faith The Vampire Slayer has to happen eventually. Maybe Faith The Cougar Vampire Slayer is a possibility in 20 years or so.
A Faith show by KanekoFan	Sep 7th, 2007 06:15:52 PM
I've never really thought that a Faith series would work. Although I like the character, I don't find her textured enough to support multiple seasons worth of exploration as the central charcater of a show, and, frankly, I don't think Eliza Dushku is a strong enough presence or a good enough actress to carry a series.
The Doctor is in it by ianrewel	Sep 7th, 2007 06:47:30 PM
I had a mini geekgasm when I saw the Doctor and Rose walking through London
You're welcome, Herc by tonagan	Sep 7th, 2007 07:10:55 PM
I get some of your amazon cut now, right?
buffywrestling by Bouncy X	Sep 7th, 2007 07:30:24 PM
that tracking shot of the funeral with nathan fillion showing up is a blooper from Firefly and thats why it isnt on the Serenity discs. i'm assuming by that one scene you mentioned that you probably watched the Firely reel as well. as for Angel's ending, this was never a last minute thing. thats the exact ending the show was gonna have, they didnt change squat. of course, they were hoping there'd be a season 6 so the ending was originally gonna simply be a cliffhanger for the "apocalypse 6th season". but when they found out they were indeed cancelled, instead of making rushed changes and whatnot, Joss decided to leave it as is and just do the ending they planned.
one more thing... by Bouncy X	Sep 7th, 2007 07:32:53 PM
actually there was one small change made. apparently had it simply been a season ender instead of series ender, Gunn was gonna die and Wesley would have survived.
Angel Season 6 by Devastating	Sep 7th, 2007 07:40:27 PM
Something tells me Gunn ain't gonna live too far into Whedon's upcoming Angel Season 6 comic. He looked like that Senator Vampire and her brood kicked the shit outta him...
Best issue so far by CarmillaVonDoom	Sep 7th, 2007 09:11:23 PM
It is a DAMN SHAME we'll never see Eliza Dushku decked out in the green dress ala the last panel.
Kim Possible... by Juemad	Sep 7th, 2007 09:33:29 PM
Is a ripoff of Buffy! From the art style by the artist responsible for the Buffy TAS concepts to the "What's the sitch?" catch phrase. Nuff said.
Wheadon can stay away. by Smerdyakov	Sep 9th, 2007 09:53:18 AM
I'll take Vaughn anytime. His Buffyverse sounds more Buffy than the Buffy man's.

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