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Quint takes a look at two Season One Box Sets: 30 ROCK and HEROES!!!

first by abner pepper	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:19:53 AM
numero uno
NICE by tehgreekhammer	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:28:12 AM
Cant wait for this fucking show to start up again. Anyone see those pics of the Cheerleader in Maxim? Id love to make a map of Hawaii all over her cute little forehead.
I like what I've seen of Heroes by FILMFUNK	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:28:23 AM
Though it did feel a little bit like an open world Lost which i guess isn't a bad thing since we lost the ability to watch lost here in UK!
30rock by abner pepper	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:32:22 AM
Sounds promising.Is it anything like Larry Sanders?
i just can't believe how pathetic that final fight was by George Newman	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:33:33 AM
I kept telling my friends that the show was making us wait for the big showdown, with each Peter/Sylar encounter it was just a tease... But no. It was pathetic.
FILMFUNK by Chilli815	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:34:36 AM
Lost is now on Sky One.
Heroes Final Fight by Chilli815	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:35:18 AM
If you were expecting the fight to end all fights, then yes, the finale would suck for you. I wasn't expecting anything, so I enjoyed what we got.
I hate tina by MignolaFan	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:35:35 AM
Stupid liberal bitch responsible for meangirls what the fuck is everyone retarded? Not to mention she single handedly ruined weekend update. Although I will admit she is at her best on 30 rock, probablly cuz she isn't writing the jokes (just sits in at the meetings for a writing credit) STUPID COOZE.
Anticlimactic is the NICEST thing... by tailhook	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:43:29 AM
i've heard about that turd of a finale. As for Chilli... way to aim low man.. way to aim low. Now go back to watching Wheel of Fortune where your retarded brain can wilt the rest of the way away. Sorry.. some of us have standards and don't give great shows a pass for fucking up key moments of their season. Like the season finale.
Does Heroes still rip off 4400, X-Men, and Rising Stars by BrowncoatJedi	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:45:23 AM
Not to mention Lost?
Whut b wrong wit stupid libera' bitches? by glodene	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:46:47 AM
Deys gives da' best head. Sides, I fuck Tina b fo' i fuck dat' rightwing crazee ho Anne Couture. Dat bitch be mad.
I got around to watching the 1st episode last night by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:49:17 AM
I downloaded the HD version on XBOX360 since it was free and I was impressed. I am going to pick up the HD-DVD box.
Jack McBrayer IS that good. by Mister Man	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:55:12 AM
Hilarious character, not overused. "30 Rock" took a few episodes to sell me, but now I love it. Kinda like crossing "Mary Tyler Moore" with "SNL" Plus, NBC is actually allowing itself to be racked through the coals.
Ummmmm by Mister Man	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:56:15 AM
"Raked" - started drinking too early on Labor Day.
BrowncoatJedi by Chilli815	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:57:19 AM
Yep, Heroes is ripping off every comic-book (and ripping them off well). Lost is still struggling to 'homage' Stephen King novels to a good standard however, which is a shame.
Actually, you can't watch HEROES online at NBC by Thick McRunFast	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:58:53 AM
...now that the DVD sets are out. 30 ROCK is indeed great; the one with the 9-11/fireworks ending had me in hysterics. Oh, and I love you, Quint.
30 Rock by Chilli815	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:59:27 AM
Anyone know if it made it to the UK? I want to watch, can't afford another DVD.
tailhook by Chilli815	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:02:17 AM
I think, if you looked back over the season, you'd realise the finale fits in nicely with the themes prevalent. Peter - Sylar fighting was never the major storyline you guys thought it was.
As much as I was into Heroes when it was on... by jimmy_009	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:21:28 AM
...am I the only one that has very little interest in seeing it again on DVD? I'm not sure how well the whole thing stands up. Other than a few characters, the stories were kind of boring and some of the acting bad. Also the action was mixed at best, especially the finale.
Hey Quint, the reason it took you a few eps to get into by Barry Egan	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:37:39 AM
30 Rock is because the first few aren't that great. It took the show a few weeks to find its legs. Once it did it's great comedy.
30 rock is the best show on tv. shame it wont last by BMacSmith	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:44:29 AM
tina fey is sexxxy
Jeff Richmond by Barry Egan	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:46:33 AM
I think Richnond's contribtion to the show with his musical score really heps it as well. 30 Rock reminds me of Arrested Development in how well the music helps set the comedic tone.
The first half season of Heroes was good. by Barry Egan	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:50:26 AM
The second half offered a lot of nothing much happening. It's almost as if they had the first 13 eps all planned and panicked when they got the full season order.
Lost boys 2 by abner pepper	Sep 3rd, 2007 12:28:46 PM
Filing started for Lost Boys II.Corey Feldman and Jamison Newlander reprising their roles as the Frog brothers.Does anyone know anymore about this?
Commentary on Heroes Dvd.... by Merlox	Sep 3rd, 2007 12:29:20 PM
...is pretty terrible. It's all over the place with no real focus or insight. I think this has to do with the fact that these "commentaries" are basically those short webisode things you could watch alongside the show on nbc.com. Having the Standard Dvd doesn't help since I can't watch along with them like you could on the website and CAN on the HD...they're still pretty bad though. Having just finished the season again though I must say I enjoyed it MUCH more than I did while watching it on tv. I'm actually quite excited for the second season.
I didn't buy this set. by For the love of Claire Bennets regenerating hymen	Sep 3rd, 2007 01:09:46 PM
I'll wait til it's "vastly encheapened".
I assume the Heroes commentary... by dgcrawford	Sep 3rd, 2007 01:51:23 PM
Was the same as what was online? I could have sworn I watched an episode with commentary with the 3 assistants on nbc.com.
Anti-Climatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!! by Midol Boy	Sep 3rd, 2007 02:19:54 PM
Yes, it was. On the other hand, if they had done the ending I wanted to see, it probably would've cost 40 million dollars to film the final fight. Damn limitations of television!
best new comedy and best new drama of 2006/07 by waggy	Sep 3rd, 2007 02:33:55 PM
both from NBC. i guess being in last place forces a network to take more chances or something. hopefully they continue the trend this season.
coaxial by DocBosch	Sep 3rd, 2007 02:40:40 PM
I don't know, maybe I'm just old school aicn - before Herc, back when glen ran coaxial, then el cosmico - but isn't the role of coaxial on this site to run this sort of articles. If I remember, the idea was that anything that went through a coaxial cable - tv, video, and video games at one point i think - was reported on at coaxial. It started to bother me when Harry and Drew would post their DVD reviews on the main section, but i figured those were still MOVIE related. But now TV DVD reviews on the movie section? What's the purpose of coaxial now, besides just a place for Herc to post on? Maybe some of the contributers feel coaxial is below them I don't know. Whatever. I'm just being picky though...
Lost- Series 2 by biggerjohn	Sep 3rd, 2007 02:55:48 PM
The second series of Lost was most definitly not 'a rough patch':in fact it was stronger than the third series, which (even though I enjoyed it a lot) was far too slow to start. (And for my money the hatch and evrything revolving around the hatch was the most intresting idea they've had on the show) Anyone know if 30 Rock's ever showing here in England so I can form an opinion about it?
Some of these shows need to get their DVD shit together by INWOsuxRED	Sep 3rd, 2007 03:18:51 PM
If you're someone like Tina Fey and you have tons invested in a show like 30 Rock, spend a day and record a few more commentaries and make sure your DVD sells. It isn't like 30 Rock is a ratings hit, you might as well do everything you can to make sure it earns money and grows fans. The Heroes box sounds really good, but I'm not going to buy an SD version, and I don't have an HD player yet. I'll wait for a price drop on a player and on the set. I have more than enough to watch till then.
HD version of 30 Rock? by Ikaruga	Sep 3rd, 2007 03:31:59 PM
Where's the HD discs of 30 Rock?
Man by Quint	Sep 3rd, 2007 06:20:56 PM
I must have pissed in darth girlfriend's Cheerios. This person loves to keep bringing these up, like it's something I'd be embarrassed about. I do love Family Guy. Me and a few million others. I also love The Office, Extras, South Park, Simpsons, 24, Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Carnivale, The Shield. I can go on with TV I'm watching. The Dane Cook comment comes from his stand-up. Sure, the show ended up sucking and even went so far as to turn me off of his current persona, but I still stand by my enjoyment of his pre-HBO masturbatory show material. But I'm retarded, I forgot. I'm going to go back to eating Play-Doh and hitting my helmeted head against the wall now.
I like Family Guy also. Ain't no harm in that. by glodene	Sep 3rd, 2007 06:56:30 PM
Now Dane Cook on the otherhand, has me scrathin' my head. I gave his HBO stand-up special a try and came to the conclusion that the ad execs of Madison Ave. must've worked their magic to convince the masses that this guy is funny. But i'm here to tell everyone that The Emperor Ain't Wearin' No Clothes.
Heroes shoulda kept the terrorist plot by Drath	Sep 3rd, 2007 07:25:34 PM
I thought that one of the weakest parts of the season was how they handled the Greg Grunberg character. His story felt like it was given short shrift, and finding out that Ted the radioactive caveman would have originally been the middle eastern ex-terrorist guy with a past connection to Grunberg's cop makes me sorry they removed that plot. Clearly they had a more pronounced arc for both characters than what was shown in the end, and that's a terrible shamme. I agree, the finale was very anticlimactic too, but after all the set up, it couldn't have NOT be a let down without samurais fighting dinosaurs in the streets of Manhattan in an action scene to rival the battle with the Omnidroid in the Incredibles. But failing that, I found the convergence of all the heroes to be forced and awkward--when Nikki helped Peter it really got forced because she had no reason to do that based on what they had shown. Of course seeing the DVDs, it looks like half the show was cut out, so no wonder they don't know what they've set up or not set up properly. In this next season, I want better pay offs in the action. I don't know how, but they need to step it up. Get some of those Buffy choreographers to stage them a descent fist fight at least--but SOMETHING to live up to the sense that these are warriors against evil. I'd also like it if they stopped killing people off. That's fine for when you've got a bunch of dead weight like on Lost, but Heroes has a lot of characters that have lots of potential that they are killing off (Eden I miss you!!!). Also, I hope my favorite characters (Hiro and Peter) survive the rumored early-season 2 death. I'm pretty sure DL is gonna die because there's been nothing on him in season 2, but I haven't seen anything for Peter either...
Also Heroes never ripped off The 4400 by Drath	Sep 3rd, 2007 07:35:12 PM
For one thing, it's good. For another, The 4400 ripped off other stuff first and not very well. Both insist on using the phrase "people with abilities" which is lame but that's about the end of the similarities. There's obviously more mythology on Heroes than on 4400, which was a lot better when it was about alien abductees than since it has become about shit from the future. Going back and watching that show from the beginning makes me think they didn't know where they were going, where as seeing Heroes from the beginning again reveals many new and interesting things. It's not perfect, but it's still the better of the two shows.
darth girlfriend by Al Swearengen	Sep 3rd, 2007 08:21:15 PM
Can I interest you in a working position at The Gem? I'm looking for a few new whores to turn a trick or two. Sucking cock and the like.
Lost season 2 was awesome. by imageburn13	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:11:38 PM
The hatch was a miraculous place.
I would lick Tina Fey's facial scar by Dataset	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:31:58 PM
THAT pretty much is my post. I don't really have anything more to add. I'll....go away now, thanks.
"the beautiful Tim Sale paintings"???? by C.K. Lamoo	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:09:31 PM
Look, I'm a big fan of Tim Sale. He has drawn some really terrific comic books. But the paintings on heroes look like they were drawn by Don Heck when he was loaded.
KENNETH by Gilkuliehe	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:40:59 PM
I was watching the brilliant ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT the other day and I saw the guy who plays Kenneth playing pretty much Kenneth. Anybody else has caught this? He's a waiter at the club and he has the same positive attitude... Until Lucille Bluth is mentioned. God I miss Arrested Development. Maybe that's why I found GOB's appearance on 30 ROCK so underwhelming... He used to have the perfect material. Now he was just wearing a ridiculous robe. Bring back Arrested Fucking Development!
I was also dissapointed by Will Arnet on 30 Rock by INWOsuxRED	Sep 4th, 2007 12:16:37 AM
but my least favorite episode might be the Pee Wee one. Even when Quint is right, he is still wrong.
Sylar is not a complex character by offput	Sep 4th, 2007 01:20:11 AM
Master Shake from ATHF is more complex than Sylar.
Alec Baldwin as Thomas Jefferson by JackTheMime	Sep 4th, 2007 04:11:20 AM
"America... which I invented...." Baldwin is off the fucking hook!
I agree about Sylar. by Smerdyakov	Sep 4th, 2007 07:01:01 AM
Just because he has a crazy mommy doesn't mean that he's complex.
Rural Juror! Cleveland! by Big Bad Clone	Sep 4th, 2007 08:41:48 AM
I caught the show a few shows in so I missed the slightly off first few (which I was able to view on NBC's website). Frankly, I was surprised how the strong the show is considering it's nestled in which The Office and Scrubs. Frankly, it's a little upsetting that it's so good that it makes me see flaws in The Office and Scrubs. Don't ruin the Jenna Fischer/ Tina Fey combo for me, NBC!
"Heroes is great. It's like real people with powers." by Big Bad Clone	Sep 4th, 2007 08:50:29 AM
Unlike what? For the most part superhero books and movies try to ground their characters. Certainly there are exceptions but Batman and Robin was only as unreal as Jean Claude Van Damme's body of work. So it really pisses me off when the actors and dumbass viewers try to act like "What if I had superpowers?" is as groundbreaking as the Colorado River. This will be canceled when it loses viewership to a show about a single guy living with a single girl! Or a doctor who cares about his patients despite what the hospital board thinks! Or a cop who plays by his own rules! Or an animal that can talk! Or a mother who's a car!
Baldwin Flying the Double-Eagle... by Leto III	Sep 4th, 2007 12:06:21 PM
...as Thomas Jefferson on "Jerry Springer" is worth the purchase-price of this DVD set all by itself. Classic fucking moment.
I'll back Herc up on Family Guy and Dane Cook... by Sidius	Sep 4th, 2007 02:53:03 PM
Family Guy in it's first 2 seasons was quite funny. I just don't think they've found that old brashness since they got re-renewed. I stopped watching it after the first couple episodes of the "new" seasons. The first time I saw Dane Cook about 6 years ago I thought he had real potential. He was a young kid, appealing to the college age crowd (one of the few comics that really seemed to know their niche at the time) and had some really cool pacing and approach to his material. Then he became famous and apparently forgot that fame means you have to work even harder to stay on top. His HBO special was self-important and hackneyed at best and he hasn't done anything funny in years. Once I saw his stupid hand gesture as the centerpiece of his special I knew he had begun to take himslef way too seriously. But seriously listen to his very early stuff. He was a funny guy at one time.
benefited from not being cancelled 2 episodes in by Freakemovie	Sep 4th, 2007 04:04:26 PM
30 Rock shows what a tiny bit of patience can do for a network. Yeha, the ratings still suck, but the show's in a much better position now than when it first started, since it's got Emmy nominations and stuff. The first few episodes the show was definitely still trying to find its groove...the pilot in particular just plain isn't that good. I stopped watching it really early on, then returned midseason to find that it was suddenly hilarious. It's got me as a viewer now for Season 2, definitely.
"Reubens in the man." by Lenny Nero	Sep 5th, 2007 01:46:36 AM
Is that a Freudian slip?
"Give me your fingernails!" by Lenny Nero	Sep 5th, 2007 01:48:22 AM
"No." Bicycles away.
Moon Vest rocks by INWOsuxRED	Sep 5th, 2007 08:09:34 AM
You can't go wrong with Kenneth
cool by turketron	Sep 5th, 2007 08:23:40 AM
I will also buy the Heroes set when it is "vastly encheapened". Lost is the only show that makes me run out and buy the DVD set right when it's released. My 350mb TV rips will suffice for now though, especially since I have them encoded on DVD's anyway. I actually want to check out the HDDVD of Heroes... that review actually made me want to go out and buy a HDDVD player... but I must wait until those are encheapened as well, because standard DVD is fine for me right now. 30 Rock is an awesome show, I agree. I have only watched the first 2 or 3 episodes though, I need to see the rest. Sounds like it gets even better.
Heroes Season 1 Finale by MattmanReturns	Sep 7th, 2007 02:41:12 AM
At least they concluded some major story arcs. Instead of finding a hole in the ground leading to something the writers hadn't written yet. THAT was anticlimactic.
Only 1 thing wrong with 30 Rock.... by theJackalope	Sep 11th, 2007 06:02:37 PM
and that's Rachel Dratch. She has GOT to be the unfunniest woman in comedy. Everytime she appears on screen I want to switch channels. She exemplifies all the worst in comedic acting. All she ever does is grimace, twitch, bug her eyes, and bray her lines with all the subtlty of a ballpeen hammer in the nuts. Thank GOD she was kicked out of the role originally intened for her (Jenna) -- 'cause, even with the rest of that great cast, the show would've sunk without a trace. Now... about Tina Fey. Let me paraphrase Jacqueline Bisset in SCENES FROM THE CLASS STRUGGLE IN BEVERLY HILLS: "I would suck her box 'til her nose bled."
"How well fleshed out the characters are?" by Prankster	Sep 18th, 2007 05:04:19 PM
On Heroes? Are we watching the same show? The characters have one trait each, and the writers frequently can't sell even that. (Grunberg's supposedly crumbling marriage seemed like a very mild spat at worst, and the relationship between Peter and Nathan featured some of the most godawful dialogue I've ever heard). Then there's the hilarious way the characters keep forgetting they have powers, especially Peter, who's virtually ominpotent at this point, yet can't do anything but cringe and explode in the finale. Here's how Heroes works: they set up something that seems like it's going to be completely and utterly awesome, then resolve it in a way that makes no sense and is frequently nonsensical, but not before they've set up something else "cool" for you to anticipate and hopefully distract you from the fact that they dropped the ball with the last thing. Then came the season finale, and they had nowhere else to go, so of course it was disappointing (despite their attempts to do another distracting setup for next SEASON with Hiro going back in time). It's possible that they'll get their act together for season 2, since the show still does have a lot of potential, but until then, no, the writers do NOT know what they're doing, Monki.
I mean Quint by Prankster	Sep 18th, 2007 05:04:47 PM
Quint, not Monki. But you're still wrong!

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