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first?
by motabus2
Sep 2nd, 2007
01:29:20 PM
aint i gay
Meh.
by Pennsy
Sep 2nd, 2007
01:32:18 PM
Yeah, I said meh.
Lemme Guess
by ArcherNX01
Sep 2nd, 2007
01:34:10 PM
Something appears to be going wrong in the world of the boys, but by some near-miracle twist of fate... they get bailed out.
C'mon Entourage writers. It's been getting old, REAL fast.
I have to say...
by Kabukiman
Sep 2nd, 2007
01:54:31 PM
...this season has been very underwhelming.
Where's the green band AvP-R trailer?
by YO MOM'S GOAT
Sep 2nd, 2007
02:26:58 PM
We have to wait until June?!
medillin
by Duncan Irons
Sep 2nd, 2007
03:05:16 PM
what is medillin... ive been watching it since day one.. but ive never heard of it... there's something called medellin though...
Wally Balls should get a regular cast credit
by AmericanMovieFan
Sep 2nd, 2007
03:27:07 PM
Rhys Coiro is on way too much and his role is waaaaay too pivotal for him to still be regarded as a guest star. I'm not for or against him becoming part of the regular cast...I don't know how I feel about that. I just want something new to happen. I was actually disappointed when I saw the episode where Billy was asked to stay with the group for Clouds and now Silo. I think they could breath new life into the show by getting someone on for an extended guest spot as another director for another project...whatever, my point is that them being with Walsh all the time is causing the series to stall or kind of run in place. For such a supposedly passionate and in demand actor, Vinny Chase is getting dangerously close to working about as often as Peter Weir, Terrence Malick or Stanley Kubrick.
major expectations this week
by The Real MiraJeff
Sep 2nd, 2007
03:27:46 PM
I feel this season of Entourage has veered completely off track. Too many sexual escapades, too much Billy Walsh, and too many damn cameos. Now I don't know what those technical difficulties were but E's firing was a huge scene and once again the show skipped right over a dramatic moment for a Kanye West cameo. This show used to be smart and I still hold out hope it can return to form but this season was a complete and total let down, in the same vein as the past season of 24. It's just not the same. The characters never change. Everything gets a quick fix. I realize the show is a comedy but the best comedy comes from drama, and what passes as 'drama' on the show doesn't cut it, since the sun never stops shining on Vince and the gang. Some of the episodes this season feel like they've been written by monkeys at typewriters. The only people who should be putting words into the character's mouths are Doug Ellin and Ally Musika. Everyone else makes them come across as caricatures. Where have the dynamics of the relationships gone? There's no way this season can touch 1 or 2. Pick up the slack, Entourage! I think you need another MiraJeff cameo... VICTORY!
cannes prediction
by The Real MiraJeff
Sep 2nd, 2007
03:32:28 PM
Pardon me if I'm wrong about this but I have a gut feeling Medillin will get a lukewarm reception at Cannes similar to Richard Kelly's Southland Tales which will send Walsh into a profanity-laced tirade that sees him clocking a major critic or distributor before going into hiding to work on his next 'masterpiece.' The whole season has been people anxious to see how Medillin turns out and I just have a feeling that this time, things won't work out for the gang and E will have to work overtime to find a project that Vince can redeem himself with.
great show but we don't need spoilers
by Rupee88
Sep 2nd, 2007
03:37:02 PM
I didn't read the article...why don't you post stuff like this on Monday and then discuss it? It isn't news.
Walsh on 24? Fucking gold!!
by TallBoy66
Sep 2nd, 2007
03:40:43 PM
"We're running out of time, dammit!" "Hey, fuck you, Bauer. I just took 5 Vicodin and I can't move my arms." Also, I hope at Cannes Midillin bombs, sucks, and blows all at once. Life is too good for Vince & Co. sometimes, and E is never wrong.
Season 5 in JUNE! WTF!&/*($/?&"!"?*!
by Freefinger
Sep 2nd, 2007
04:14:49 PM
God no!... Not all the way to June until new episodes... that just sucks ass! They should bring it back in December or January at the latest!!! This show is freaking gold! Even if it did go down a notch this year, I think it's due to brigning more characters into play instead of continuing the exploits of Drama and Trutle which was some of the most funniest shit on tv, but still is the ONE show I can't get get enough off. Let's write to the studio execs that this show can't wait 'till June for season 5!!!
The Real MiraJeff
by Freefinger
Sep 2nd, 2007
04:24:25 PM
Yep.. gotta agree with you MiraJeff, the show did lose some of it's "spark" this season. And it did get way too many cameos, to ones I liked were the ones like when Ari is walking, crossing thestreet and suddenly he bumps into Grazer and spilts on him.. those were great stuff 'cause it didn't take the story off track... I'm guessing they're bumbing Season 5 to June because they need time to get the old stuff back... At least .. I hope!
MiraJeff is DEAD-ON
by ZoeFan
Sep 2nd, 2007
04:57:52 PM
Except for one thing, the first episode that sent this show down a notch or three was the Las Vegas Episode.
Medellin *CAN'T* do well
by The Funketeer
Sep 2nd, 2007
05:17:54 PM
Otherwise all that tension they've been building between E and Vince will have gone to waste. If E is right, then Vince just goes back to believing him and we're back to the status quo.
Southland Tales got a "lukewarm" reception?
by Barry Egan
Sep 2nd, 2007
05:43:24 PM
I thought it was booed and despised.
i thought the rim job episode was the series highlight
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Sep 2nd, 2007
05:57:13 PM
4 fully realized, individual plots that intersect and effect eachother. jokes based on the characters and their personalities rather than some weird situation, and funny situations too. great eppy, I donno why everyone's whining.
I like Billy Walsh
by Neo Zeed
Sep 2nd, 2007
08:04:56 PM
I think he's a funny dude and all the Medellin stuff has been awesome. BTW they should put the 'Anna Faris firing Eric' scene online. Even though Eric was sorta bullshitting Anna, I felt Eric's firing came out of left field. I need more explanation behind that.
disagree
by Mr_X
Sep 2nd, 2007
08:09:51 PM
i've only been wtahcing the show since this year. i managed to get all the pats seasons, and i have to say this year has been some of the most hilarious shows ever. imho it's gotten better, the dynamics between the team has solidifies, the additonal of walsh as an antagonist has added a boost to the show. Its keeps getting better and better.
yeah, the rim job was stellar! and what about the
by GQtaste
Sep 2nd, 2007
09:39:28 PM
one where drama has to get that weed hat? that was great! and I like Billy Walsh as well. I thought it has been a major improvment from the last season.
Nice Episode.
by Saithus
Sep 2nd, 2007
09:58:25 PM
I love the sex escapades in Entourage. It actually makes the show a "comedy" if you ask me. And as for the quick fix like they always get. Well, if you saw tonights episode then you already know how quick of a fix they get! Anyways, I think you guys are too harsh on the show. I never watched it until this season. And the show was good enough to catch my attention. If this is the black sheep season... then I have got to see the first few.
wow that episode sucked
by Reynard Muldrake
Sep 2nd, 2007
10:07:16 PM
i was just supremely let down. there was a lot of juice to be milked from the whole audience not liking it, but it just all feels all over the place to me lately (though i LOVED the episode with busey in it again...that seemed to recapture a lot of the old spirit...maybe because they were all together for most of the episode). i dunno...there's a harsh edge that doesn't meld for me...i'm tired, but might try to expound later. any one else think it was pretty anticlimactic and not even close to season 2 caliber?
Saithus...
by Reynard Muldrake
Sep 2nd, 2007
10:07:55 PM
Yeah, that last thing you said.
music
by shmu65
Sep 2nd, 2007
11:02:53 PM
anybody know the song name of one of the songs in the episode? It was near the end (but not the very end) and it was a guy and a girl singing. The guy kinda sounded like iggy pop but I'm pretty sure it wasn't him. Thanks. And the show has gotten pretty shitty. I agree with Muldrake.
Next season...
by kedohmen
Sep 2nd, 2007
11:03:49 PM
Harvey recuts the film. It becomes a 'cult hit' but no Oscar noms. I think they will just skip over 'Silo' somehow -maybe Billy will kill himself over Harvey's re-cuts and 'Silo' never gets made and they make a real 'Clouds' movie. IDK.
wow...that's IT?
by Sir Loin
Sep 2nd, 2007
11:08:24 PM
35 minutes of nothing. They should've at least prolonged the Cannes response until next season as a cliffhanger. And too much Drama, sorry. He just wasn't that funny.
How anticlimatic.................... ...................
by crackerfarmboy
Sep 2nd, 2007
11:22:50 PM
So the film bombs, the financial backers are gone, they're flat broke, their pet project is toast...and they don't give a flying fuck????? Lame.
Already finished?
by messi
Sep 3rd, 2007
12:02:41 AM
what? then back NEXT JUNE???
To much Billy Walsh....?
by LazarusRevival
Sep 3rd, 2007
12:19:06 AM
Hell no! Having Walsh in every episode allows more opportunities to see his girlfriend answering the door in her panties
I thought it was awesome
by YO MOM'S GOAT
Sep 3rd, 2007
12:23:29 AM
and Voltar or whatever the eff Drama's Viking name is... that dude got a hot little number there. Made me feel the love. This show is just plain awesome. Even when it's not awesome it's the funniest thing this side of the Office.

Now about that green-band AvP-R trailer, MiraJeff?

I thought it was okay
by Jinxo
Sep 3rd, 2007
01:56:12 AM
Not the greatest episode ever but I thought it was closer to form than it has been for awhile. Brought together a lot of plot threads, had an ending I wasn't fully expecting. I think I too was expecting a maybe lukewarm reception but not a full on bomb. I even buy them not being crazy depressed afterward. I think if they were those sorts they wouldn't survive long in Hollywood. Gotta roll with the punches.

I did think losing the end of the Anna Faris plot and sticking Kanye in was... horrrrible. I watched that episode and thought, okay, so now the show is Love Boat. Every week we'll have a parade of celebs cameos with trivial plots. The thing with Kanye in and he Faris stuff being out was it doubled up on the show appearing to just be about trivial cameos. Kanye's was trivial (and for some reason it annoyed me that the boys would hang out with Kanye West). But on top of that, the lack of an ending to Anna Faris' plot made HER feel trivial too. Like we had her on for a couple of episodes for fun but that plot has nowhere left to go so we'll utterly bail on it without even really finishing it.
I really wanted Vince to do
by Wheel99
Sep 3rd, 2007
02:18:16 AM
the Ramones movie.
Time to get back to basics
by AmericanMovieFan
Sep 3rd, 2007
02:32:14 AM
The first season was amazing. Perfect. And while I think its good that the characters have somewhat evolved, the stories are getting too complicated, the story lines too cluttered. They need to dump the independent film/Billy Walsh shenanigans, have Vince make a hit studio movie for 6 million dollars, move into a nice ass mansion full time with all their nice cars like on season 1 and get back to boning hot chicks left and right. The first season was perfect and they lost everything that was great about it.
great season finale
by Evil Hobbit
Sep 3rd, 2007
04:25:43 AM
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Dear Anna
by Musicballs
Sep 3rd, 2007
06:26:12 AM
Please suck the shit out of your lips. Thanks!
We moan BUT continue to watch every single episode :)
by Powers Boothe
Sep 3rd, 2007
08:47:04 AM
Is it me or does every Entourage season end with people saying "wow, that was a really disappointing season!"?

Entourage is far from perfect...but it's quite a lot of fun to watch. Easy to follow and a perfect way to end the weekend.
June 2008? Oh dear.

Expect even more cameos next season!
by Powers Boothe
Sep 3rd, 2007
08:54:30 AM
This show is incredibly popular with Hollywood folk. Believe me when I tell you almost all of them wanna make an appearance on the show.

I know most of you Talk Back fellas hate "rappers" but I thought that Kanye West cameo was very cool.

Medescarface
by birdybirdmanreturns
Sep 3rd, 2007
08:57:32 AM
Critical rejection and lukewarm initial response, but to quote E so many seasons ago "the back end on this thing could be huge" Sound like another cocaine epic we all know and love? Modeling the Cannes response to the debut of Scarface suggests to me that the movie will turn a huge eventual profit because despite the French hating it, American moviegoers will eat it up. In addition, I used to think that Billy Walsh was modeled after Paul Thomas Anderson (they even threw in a Boogie Nights reference when he was directing porno under his doppleganger) something that I would not put it past PTA to have do. I still kind of believe he is, however I believe he's become his own character. Considering the show is loosely based around Wahlburg's experience in Hollywood it always kind of struck me as an homage. Oh, and one more thing... THERE WILL BE A SECOND SEASON OF JOHN FROM CINCINNATI! THERE WILL BE A SECOND SEASON OF JOHN FROM CINCINNATI! THERE WILL BE A SECOND SEASON OF JOHN FROM CINCINNATI!
Walsh
by bobwiley
Sep 3rd, 2007
09:59:52 AM
I always thought Walsh was modeled more on Vincent Gallo than PTA.
Why no Mad Men Talk Back?
by Powers Boothe
Sep 3rd, 2007
10:55:50 AM
It REALLY IS the best thing on television, at the moment. Has it ever been mentioned on this site?
Just me, or did the last 2 episodes really suck??
by jojo-pimp
Sep 3rd, 2007
11:18:54 AM
Yeah, as some people said, they need to get more back to vince and the gang partying, and stupid shit like Turtle trying to get designer shoes, and them in search of weed. And yeah, billy walsh is funny as hell, but do they really need to have vince start making every single movie with him as the director?
I thought the Kanye thing
by down75
Sep 3rd, 2007
11:20:26 AM
I thought the Kanye thing was cool only because it was Turtle's connection which kind of got glanced over. And June until the next season??? Fuck you HBO.
I'm all in favor of gratuitous cameos...
by stereochad
Sep 3rd, 2007
11:44:35 AM
Without them, I'm sure I'd be reading (here) that this show is so unbelievable due to the fact that we never get the sense that the boys are really in L.A. (kinda like the White House on 24). Oh, and Dana's ironic revenge, the Middle-Eastern playboy's yacht party, and Drama "making love to some girl for the last 3 hours" were all very good scenes. It's true that VC does need to diversify (a bit), and Eric needs to apply HIS talent (and take on another client or two), but to say that this show has dropped is more reflective of a superior mindset, rather than a true assessment of this show's quality. I do agree that the June 08' start date does suck though. Why do all these assholes (networks) think that they should be scheduling their hit shows like they're movie sequels? Oh right I forgot (subscriptions).
Anyone know when The Wire reappears?
by Powers Boothe
Sep 3rd, 2007
12:39:09 PM
No Deadwood, no Sopranos, no Rome, no Entourage, no Wire. What am I supposed to do...start watching all those pale imitations on Showtime?
showtime isn't soo bad...
by dubsy
Sep 3rd, 2007
01:49:38 PM
well at least weeds isn't at least. how hot was the blonde johnny got to fool around with all episode? the things i'd do to her
I know this is going to sound weird but...
by Samuel Steamer
Sep 3rd, 2007
02:27:32 PM
I'm all for T & A but women have really become objects on this show. My wife and I have watched this show from the start and she's enjoyed it all the way. However, this season it became increasingly awkward to watch with her in the room. Every girl became an object to nail. The only current semi-powerful one was nailed by Ari (he had to split on the cost of the abortion). Too many cameos! So true. Drama is realistic in his cockiness but the boys should once in a while put him in check. Especially Vince. Too much ARI and his family. The show is called Entourage not Ari. And while I'm on him, he should get rid of Lloyde. the once funny secretary who now tells Ari how to act. I will continue to watch but I hope they tighten the show up and tell us some stories. They seem to be trying to just give us alot of what they think we want to see or what they think works. Take care.
"Get rid of Lloyd?"
by Powers Boothe
Sep 3rd, 2007
02:47:48 PM
You're kidding, right? The Lloyd character is terrific. I also can't get enough of Ari. Piven (and that hair piece) is GREAT.

I'm really not sure what some of you guys are expecting from a 25 minute TV show. What is it exactly you want Entourage to be?

pretty close huh?
by The Real MiraJeff
Sep 3rd, 2007
03:43:27 PM
not that they were nostradamus-esque but my prediction were pretty close, huh gang? And that's the problem with Entourage right there. It's become predictable in routine. The most predictable thing about last night's finale was that none of them gave a shit about their financial and professional predicament. E was especially poorly written last night, in that he had absolutely no backbone and just deferred to the boss, his best friend Vince. On the whole I thought the episode was okay. Drama was good despite getting stuck with an especially one-note subplot. Think we'll see that French chick in the next season opener? I don't think so. It would actually be nice if she returned, maybe Drama could settle down since he's the oldest, and the guys start to become a bit more responsible. I just want some actual drama on this show. Give Vince a celebrity girlfriend so the tabloid paparazzi hound them. Give him a drug problem. Give him something that makes me think he doesn't float above it all like so many holier-than-thou stars. Vince was never supposed to be an A-list movie star. He's a good-hearted, sweet-natured kid from Queens trying to swim with the sharks in LA. That's what the show has been about. That struggle to climb to the top and make Vince a marquee name. So what now? Does Harvey recut Medellin into Oscar gold? Does it get a limited arthouse release prompting Nicky Rubenstein to go on a shooting spree? Does it never see the light of day, or go straight to DVD? I have no idea but here's to hoping the writers get the show's mojo back on track because this season was almost in danger of falling into 24 season 6 territory. As in, complete makeover needed the next year. I'm glad Billy Walsh is headed over to CTU because his obnoxious brand of acting was really bringing Entourage down. Lloyd was pure gold this season, he's great, and no they should not get rid of him, Samuel Steamer. As for your question, Powers Boothe, what do I want Entourage to be? I want it to get back to its roots and explore the dynamic of the actual entourage. This season, the guys were playing caricatures of the complex characters they were written as in season 1. It used to be a must-see show about male relationships and the bond these guys share in the face of Vince's rising star. When you're a star of Vince's caliber, it's hard to resist the traps and temptations of Hollywood. You become insulated and you lose touch with what's real, and the show has always been about Vince defying that and sticking with his crew. He's still just a lucky kid from Queens at heart. We don't see him hanging out at parties with other movie stars, or ditching the gang to go do his own thing. It's about him rejecting the Hollywood life and maintaining his own New York personality. But the show has gotten away from character development and career conflicts in favor of cartoony cameos and funny but ultimately lame sex subplots. Doug Ellin is a very perceptive guy and I think he'll right the ship before it sinks. Let's just hope he does it soon, and gets some fresh blood on that writing staff. Dougie, if the gang needs a writer's asst I'd be happy to assist you any way I can...
The Wire 4th season DVD release: 12/4/07
by glodene
Sep 3rd, 2007
04:37:26 PM
The good news: $59.95 as oppose to $99.95. You may all rejoice.
@mirajeff / Good Call
by TheDohDoh
Sep 3rd, 2007
05:31:22 PM
Entourage is really boxed in by both its short running-time per episode and its dependence on being so carefree. I expected Medellin to receive a cold response. And that's exactly what's wrong with Entourage. It tries to show us how good its characters have it and then tease us with cliffhangers. But when the cliffhangers are this obvious, it's almost not worth watching. The entire Drama side-story was a waste of time. At least show some tits. He should have at least been buck-naked along with that French girl when Vince and the gang joined to watch. But no, he's fully-clothed!!?! WTF. I know that sounds a little homo-erotic, but the show just doesn't go for it. It doesn't give people anything to talk about except "Think it'll be a cult classic" "Maybe, but who cares?" I really wished Vince got a coke habit and got into a tabloid snafu. The show could really use some playful darkness, a la the shroom scene in Knocked Up. But good perception there on calling the finale. You nailed it.
I don't want more "drama".
by Kabukiman
Sep 3rd, 2007
05:45:01 PM
I don't want more "drama". That's what they did this season, try to inject more drama between the characters, and they failed. I was cool with it being a shallow comedy about a group of friends in Hollywood. They lost me when they tried to put in bullshit conflict between E and Vince and the thing I liked best about the finale is that it points to the possibility of Silo being scrapped and Vince once again following E's advice. I also am not crazy about E getting a bunch of clients. I don't want him turning into Ari 2. What made his character interesting was that he was never a Hollywood player and that all he cared about was watching his best friend's back.
Also
by Kabukiman
Sep 3rd, 2007
05:54:59 PM
I don't think E was badly written. I think E is a responsible guy (the most responsible of the whole group, as well as the one with the most conscience) and he realized that, like Medillin or not, he as the producer is responsible for $34, 760,000 of other people's money, not to mention his own $240K and that it is his responsibility to try to sell it and to at least appear to believe in it. Also, I don't know if it's predictable because of the way the show is going, but Medillin's failure was predictable, though inevitable, because of the footage we'd already been shown of it. Vince looked ridiculous as Pablo, the movie looked like ass. Of course it was not going to be received well. And, of course, as someone else said, E thought it sucked, and he's been shown to have impeccable taste.
I Can't get enough Billy Walsh
by topaz4206
Sep 3rd, 2007
06:20:26 PM
I have to agree Season 4 is the worst of the lot, but Billy is one of the BEST parts about it.

"What the fuck is Viking Quest?" Come on, how can you not love this guy?
mmm
by jbs0209
Sep 3rd, 2007
07:12:10 PM
A few things to change in the show:

* give E 1 or 2 clients. Things were going well in that direction. I was interested in the dynamics of Vince not liking having to share E.

* the idea of giving Drama a girlfriend is great too. That would really be interesting.

* bring back Shawna (?) the publicist

Season 5 should be about pulling these guys apart and putting them back together.

The cameos are fine. Lloyd is great, although they do tend to over-gay him, but maybe he is Hollywood gay, not normal human gay. Billy is both annoying and endearing. And, Ari is so popular they had to give him more screen time. Although, I would like to get the feeling again that Ari has more than 1 client, Vince.

Finale...
by beardo
Sep 3rd, 2007
08:03:43 PM
It was a great idea to have Medillin tank, but then they fucked it up. Are we really supposed to believe that Vince and Eric aren't shaken by their film being booed? Oh, we've lost all our money, but it's okay, who gives a fuck? I know this show isn't a downer, but the characters don't have to be eternally happy. As for Walsh, I'd fucking pray that Vince will finally work with another director. The Walsh stuff is tired.
In the end, they don't care
by Merkin Muffley
Sep 3rd, 2007
08:16:03 PM
Why should we? No matter how bad things go for the gang, they're all smiles and who gives a fuck. How can the audience maintain interest? Also, on what planet is Vincent Chase a "big" movie star? he's been in a couple films no one's seen and a big WB superhero movie. In real life, he's on the same career trajectory as Brandon Routh. And for god's sake WE GET THE ARI CHARACTER. Enough. "Hug it out, bitch" was three years ago now. At least we're getting to see more of Perry Reeves. Oy, this show is frustrating.
Uhmm MiraJeff, your comment:
by one9deuce
Sep 3rd, 2007
09:38:50 PM
"Too many sexual escapades and too many damn cameos". Have you seen the first season of ENTOURAGE? Is there even an episode in season 1 without a cameo or a sexual adventure? No offense, but I think Doug Ellin knows what he's doing. I don't think he needs an online movie reviewer/wannabe screenwriter to help "right the ship". Especially since you don't even understand the story arc of the show. Your quote: "the show has always been about Vince defying that and sticking with his crew" couldn't be more wrong. E is the main character. For a wannabe screenwriter I can't believe that you don't see that. Watch season 1 through 4 again and you will understand why E is the main character and why the entire show's story arc (and consequently the show) will end when E is his own entity in Hollywood.
E is definitely the real protagonist
by beardo
Sep 3rd, 2007
09:54:39 PM
In many ways, Vince is the least important character. He isn't exciting or interesting; ever know the kind of guy who gets all the pussy he wants and has never had a bad day? Yeah, he's not much to study. E, Drama, Turtle, and Ari are where the show is really at. I'm still fucking pissed about their response to the Medellin disaster. Three years of their lives and all that toil, and when the flick is a disaster all they can do is shrug and say "who cares?" bullshit! this show has been shaky at best since the 3rd season started.
Here's How it Comes Down Next Season.
by C.K. Lamoo
Sep 3rd, 2007
10:49:57 PM
Even though Medellin is shit and though even the AICN reviewers hate it. Harry Knoweles will have posted so many articles about it on this site that people will be curious and go to see it anyway just like they did Halloween, King Kong and King of Kong.
Also, I have to wonder....
by C.K. Lamoo
Sep 3rd, 2007
10:54:41 PM
Is this what Mark Walberg's life is like? Is it no matter whether he winds up in a turd like Planet of the Apes, do people still love him? It must be so because there he is in "The Departed". No wonder his show is like this.
They are happy because...
by topaz4206
Sep 3rd, 2007
11:34:57 PM
Harvey got it for free and is distributing it, but they can still get their money back, even profit from it, if it does well.

And Canne reaction has never been necessarily indicative of U.S. average moviegoer reaction.
topaz4206
by beardo
Sep 3rd, 2007
11:47:40 PM
True, but the film had to be REALLY bad to get the audience to boo and slouch out like that. Didn't they also say it was really long, like 3 hours? Could the studio that signed Vince and Billy for Silo back out still, or did they ink the deal?
Not very funny, but entertaining as fuck.
by azmodien
Sep 3rd, 2007
11:55:16 PM
This show only works if you don't think of it as a comedy. Ari is pretty much the only source of good dialogue in the show anymore. "Get out your pink rolodex and call your queer assistant friends and get them to start opening their mouths like JT is about to drop a load in it." Piven has carried this fucking thing since day one. I agree with bacci40, Adrian Grenier has never been a believable superstar. He doesn't have the charisma or talent to attain the type of stardom suggested in the show. Drama and Turtle's hijinx get old fast and the E's subplots are formulaic. The gratuitous tits and sexual escapades are fine, but situations should be funnier and more original. Better writers could make this show brilliant.
Xiphos
by Sir Loin
Sep 4th, 2007
12:15:47 AM
ahahahahhahahahahah!!! Brilliant! UPDATE: still laughing.
What I call the Scooby Doo effect
by BLWiseass
Sep 4th, 2007
09:56:42 AM
Too often, Entourage has gone the way of the scooby doo plot device. During the episode, the group splits in half with Turtle and Drama (i.e. Scooby and Shaggy)getting involved in some non plot related hjinks. It would be nice to see E interact with Drama every now and then, or Turtle and Vince etc. Also every epiosde starts off with a different variation of the same joke. Someone mentions a recent accomplishment of Vince's, Drama attempts to correlate Vince's accomplishment to something he once did, Turtle makes fun of Drama's attempt at bragging about his past. Is it just me or does every single episode start off that way.
Here's what I think of the last one...
by Freefinger
Sep 4th, 2007
11:47:23 AM
It was a little simplistic, and yes it's Drama that did bring it up with him being so freaking crazy about his room that he gets booted out, now that was good...

As far as the rest, I too was a little bored about their reaction, and Ari saying everyhting will be fine since Harvey's got the movie and "you should see what (can't remember the movie) was like before he got to it..." or something like that, that just makes it ok for them to not worry.

I on the other hand do like the Walsh character, but not to have him in so many episodes. 1 or 2 would be enough.

I do think that this season got away with the whole entourage season 1, 2 and 1/2 of the 3rd season little things that made it great, like when Vinnie got into bed with the "going to be married girl" that had him on her list. That's what made it funny, or even a little believable.

Then you had the whole Drama and Turtle aspect of the show that was just great with them getting into more mess every time they went out. The Malibu episodes, were the gang just hung out on the day the Aquaman movie got out.

I want to see more of the camaderie these guys projected; it did feel like my own closest friends and I hangin' out (minus the money aspect).

Vinnie should be growing in the Hollywood community, not just staying put. I'd like to see more of the E character as he was but with a little bit more credibility. I must admit the whole "and Eric... " "Eric Murphy"... "Eric Murphy sorry.." part when he ges presented is exactly what we think when he shows up, it's the "who is that guy? Oh! Vinnies Chase's guy, ok.." that's what made the character good. He's probably the one that did move up a little with the seasons, being a manager/producer now.

Hopefully the writing team can get back into that whole "Let's discover how to be Hollywood stars" feeling of the show they had going in the first couple of seasons.

Let's get some new project that Vinnie will get a paycheck to get the new house ect... ect... That was great.

I just hope we don't lose this show. Like when the WB pulled the plug on one the the best comedies ever to be put out, "Off Center", I hope HBO continues with this one.

More Entourage, Less "Story"
by _Maltheus_
Sep 4th, 2007
02:52:48 PM

I watched the first two seasons on DVD and thought the show was best viewed that way. I figured watching season 3 live was the reason I didn't care for it so much. But after reading the comments here, I'm guessing that's not the case.

Walsh's character should have been finished after Queen's Boulevard. Drama, while usually funny, was overdone this season. Did anybody actually think he'd make it back to that hotel room after leaving. Of course not, because his character is becoming too predictable. Ari was better when he didn't run his own agency and saw Vince as his ticket. I also think a large part of the problem centered around them no longer having a house to center themselves around, it is called Entourage after all. They've also been on the edge of poverty (by Hollywood standards) all season. This show is at it's best when you can sit back and live vicariously through its characters. Their lives simply don't seem all that fun anymore.

That final scene in Medellin with the slow-mo chicken was great though. It sums up so much of the crap I've seen over the years that was suppose to be Oscar worthy. I don't think it matters that it was a Cannes audience, the scene said it all. It won't do well at the box office as is. And it's too late to fix it. Will Vince be doing TV next year, living under Drama's roof? Even Aquaman ended in a kind of failure. Where's this big star Ari keeps talking about?

whoa whoa whoa
by The Real MiraJeff
Sep 4th, 2007
03:01:42 PM
First of all, 19deuce I COMPLETELY agree that E is the main character on this show. It's not called MOVIE STAR, it's called Entourage, and E is the entourage member who the other guys take their cues from. He is the unofficial leader of this pack. If Vince is the heart, E is the head. But E has his own aspirations, he's not content to riding shotgun in Vince's career his whole life. He doesn't want to be just a pizza boy with a famous friend, if you will. And before, when I said that the show is about Vince rejecting the typical Hollywood life, what I meant was, it's about his friends keeping him on the straight and narrow, helping to guide him to better decisions, both in his career and his love life. But 19deuce, if Doug Ellin knows what he's doing, as you say, then why the fuck has the show gone so downhill. This season was, on the whole, BAD. It's become a show I watch just because it's on, not because I can't wait to see the next episode. And whoever said we need more Billy Walsh must be crazy, because he is almost single-handedly bringing the show down. His shtick was funny at first but now he's become the 6th unofficial member of the group and he's obnoxious as hell and doesn't fit in well with the rest of the group. His acting style is very look at me! He needs to dial it down a notch or go away because every minute he is onscreen is a minute not spent exploring the group's dynamic. And Kabukiman, I'm sorry, but we must not be watching the same show, because E is so inconsistently written from week to week. One episode he's the take-no-bullshit manager who's gonna fight to get Vince to do the right project, the next he's meek and deferring to Ari. The show consistently glosses over any moment resembling drama, all to get back to the puffery of the lifestyle or some shocking sex joke. Guys, it's still better than 95% of what's on TV, I'm still watching it every week and I still care about the characters, but it's as if the writers stopped giving a shit and just decided that the characters write themselves. There's hardly given anything interesting to do week to week, aside from furry sex or finger in the ass milf blowjobs. The show is in danger of becoming creatively bankrupt, just a flurr of industry jokes with some fluffy scenery draped over the punchlines. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The show needs to get back to the basics which means exploring the group's dynamic like they did in season 1. Everyone's gotten so comfortable with their characters they've become caricatures of themselves. Is there really any doubt in anyone's mind that Season 4 was the weakest yet? Doesn't everyone of you in this talkback feel like Entourage has some work to do if its going to return to its glory days. I mean, this isn't TV. It's HBO!
It's HBO!
by jbs0209
Sep 4th, 2007
04:07:28 PM
At a certain level I am just happy that this and Wire are on the cancel-fest known as HBO.
The Real MiraJeff
by one9deuce
Sep 4th, 2007
08:32:14 PM
I don't know, I think "bad" is a little harsh to describe ENTOURAGE seasons 3 and 4. Maybe it's just me, but I laughed my ass off several times this season, and I think the two best episodes of the entire series are in season 3: Aquamom and The Resurrection. Just my opinion.
i thought 3 was a lot worse than season 4.
by GQtaste
Sep 4th, 2007
10:45:46 PM
I thought the show was on a roll before last nights episode. I don't mind billy walsh at all.
The show is great for 5 reasons
by StovetopStuffin'
Sep 5th, 2007
12:33:28 PM
Vince is the Id E is the Ego Ari&co. are the Super Ego And Turtle and Drama are fuckin R2 and C3PO. Billy Walsh was fun by himself, but I hated having him in the group. He's an antagonist if anything, and he's not a member of the entourage. Get rid of him as a regular.
The problem I have is...
by cornstalkwalker
Sep 5th, 2007
03:41:52 PM
next season, things are going to be right where they were before. Somehow, nothing will really change and there will be some other project in the works. Now Billy, I would assume his character is dead. I would be surprised if we ever see him again. But, the main gang, they'll still be doing they same antics that they've done since the beginning. I think it would be cool if Vince's career got cold and the gang was living off of Drama's success for awhile.
Madmen is totally boring.
by Smerdyakov
Sep 5th, 2007
05:35:27 PM
All sizzle and no steak. I just watch it because I enjoy people smoking.
Lloyd
by BLWiseass
Sep 5th, 2007
11:49:15 PM
cracks me up. I disagree that he needs to go.
"Dougie, if the gang needs a writer's asst...
by -guyinthebackrow
Sep 6th, 2007
11:44:03 AM
... I'd be happy to assist you any way I can." Wow! MiraJeff, that came off as REALLY homosexual. Unless that was your intent. Then... okay. Mission Accomplished.
too many sexual escapades and cameos??
by slappy jones
Sep 6th, 2007
03:18:52 PM
in the boardroom of HBO for before season 1 i believe they had a meeting about the shows title. they weren't sure whether to call the show "entourage" or "sexual escapades and cameos". if you are going to complain about the sex and cameos you can't say you wish it was more like season 1....and there can never be too many sexual escapades anyway.
oh an djo-jo pimp you are spot on
by slappy jones
Sep 6th, 2007
03:29:24 PM
the last 2 episodes have been great. I like the show still but I do agree this season it has been a bit weak....can't ari just a prick without having to see he has a heart? every week we see that underneath all the bluster he loves his wife and his kids and is a good guy wah wah wah...just have him be a prick again. and enough of the love/hate/love banter with his wife - not needed. bill walsh on a bike taking off stealing the print is fucking genius...billy walsh wise cracking and bantering with the gang as a regular memeber all the time - not needed. but the last 2 episodes have been a hit crap. although I was geniuniely surprised that the film tanked...I mean I thought it would i had a feeling but this being entourage where if you are in trouble kanye wets flies you to cannes I thought that everything would work out so I was pleasantly surprised to see something really bad happen to them. as for vinces reaction that is his character....like it or not he nevers gives a fuck about anything so that was definitely keeping in his character but they could at least had E go crazy about how he knew the film was bad and no one listened etc etc or have billy go more over the top than he did.....anyway...the show is all about johnny drama for me anyway....i am not one of these complainers who says "the show sucks now wah" but the tail end of this season has been pretty bad......
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