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UPDATED!! What The Frak??
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
Finale To Air In 2009??!!

Fuck by Mezzanine	Sep 1st, 2007 10:57:31 PM
This upsets me. Bamber is right, they have no idea what they are doing.
Oh, and... by Mezzanine	Sep 1st, 2007 10:57:51 PM
First!
oh my god by bootle2	Sep 1st, 2007 10:58:04 PM
please please tell me this is wrong!
What's with the hair... by bgeek	Sep 1st, 2007 10:58:56 PM
They are actors. They shouldn't all need hair changes for character development. Everyone will be back to normal a few episodes into the season.
looking around* by mtchptty	Sep 1st, 2007 10:59:32 PM
1st?
Oh yeah... by bgeek	Sep 1st, 2007 10:59:59 PM
Fuck the episode delay.
This is some Sopranos-like bullshit, if they do it by chromedome	Sep 1st, 2007 11:01:58 PM
and, if they do, like the Sopranos, I will say EFF em and not watch at all until it is ALL out on DVD. Hopefully this is bogus information. If they wanted BSG on thru 2009, why not sign up for 5 seasons, instead of shortening it to 4.
First Lost, now BSG, whatever happened to 7 seasons! by warp11	Sep 1st, 2007 11:10:13 PM
Seriously, if Trek all those years could push for 7 seasons, BSG has more than a few left in them. Bring on a big screen adapt.
what's w/the Death Proof??? I want the REAL GRINDHOUSE by iamnicksaicnsn	Sep 1st, 2007 11:10:13 PM
Jesus, did they make the subject line even shorter?? I miss the old super long subject lines... Anyhoo, BRING US THE REAL GRINDHOUSE, TARANTINO AND RODRIGUEZ YOU BASTARDS!
Or better yet, can't wait for the BSG cartoon by warp11	Sep 1st, 2007 11:10:39 PM
Because you know one is coming.
digs at SCI-FI execs = awesome by Sir Loin	Sep 1st, 2007 11:17:32 PM
I have MUCH more respect for those actors now, and they are right about the Sci-Fi Channel morons. "Hey, we've got a hit...let's destroy it!" FARSCAPE all over again. BSG should've switched to NBC when it struck ratings gold, I think it would've done well paired up with HEROES. But oooooh noooo, we can't have that.
By the Lords of Kobol! by performingmonkey	Sep 1st, 2007 11:21:09 PM
Why the fuck don't they do a 5th season if this shit is happening? Are they insane? By all means, air 10 from Feb then 10 from Oct or something, but the following February?? Idiots.
SCI-FI execs are f*cking idiots. Morons!! by Russman	Sep 1st, 2007 11:22:46 PM
After all this time after fucking up Farscape they still haven't learned a god damned thing. Keeping us on the line for yet another year will allow them to sell more commercials. And fuck the fans, let them moan, they're going to watch anyway, right? Well I say end the show and get your asses working on A NEW SHOW that will bring us all back in Fall 2008 or Jan 2009. Fucking assholes. What a bummer for a holiday weekend.
No Grindhouse til June/July by SherlockMonk	Sep 1st, 2007 11:23:26 PM
fuckers.
Ah fuck by pax256	Sep 1st, 2007 11:28:39 PM
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fahuck... sci fi is worse than unreliable hobo hbo.
See that's why I'm gon' wait until all the DVD's by glodene	Sep 1st, 2007 11:44:27 PM
are released then I'm gon' have me a BSG Couch Potato-Thon with a bucked of fried pork strips, a big bag of chili cheese fritos and a fridge full of Pabst Blue Ribbon. I refuse to go through the same shit that TNT put a mutha fucka through with Babylon 5 back in the day. Didn't know when the shit gon' air. Had to months on end and shit, pissin' N*%$a off. I hope they don't pull that shit with Eureka during its inevitable end run...Cuz I need my Salli Richardson fix. That girl got azz fo' days.
Ok fuck this by Volstaff	Sep 1st, 2007 11:56:33 PM
If this is true then fuck it, I'll just consider the series canceled now and just not watch.
BSG and Heroes by Demode	Sep 1st, 2007 11:57:56 PM
Whoever said BSG should be aired after HEROES is dead on! I still don't think its to late to do this. Just start airing the show on NBC after Heroes, starting with the mini-series and working their way up. A lot of people haven't discovered this series, and putting it right after Heroes, they certainly would!
Gotta make room for more great snake-themed movies! by Larry of Arabia	Sep 1st, 2007 11:59:22 PM
Megasnake, Python v. Boa, The Snake King, Basalisk: the Serpent King, Fire Serpent, The King of Serpents, Megapython, King Boa, Basalisk v. Megasnakeking . . .
I'm so glad I'm done with this series by Gorrister	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:04:06 AM
If I were still a BSG fan, I would be extremely pissed off by this news. I feel for you guys. Luckily for me, Season Three disgusted me so much that I gave up on it around mid-season. My guess would be that this is a stunt. Kind of a showbiz Hail Mary play. If the first half of Season Four performs well, then they have a LOT of time to change their minds about this being the final season.
I'm having a hard time believing they would do this. by NoPIX	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:10:53 AM
I mean, we all know what the format of the show is like...the first 10 episodes of this final season will probably be awesome...but it will leave us with an extreme cliffhanger and plenty of unresolved questions. It's just insanity to wait that long when it's already in the can.
High Quality Material by JumpinJehosaphat	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:29:51 AM
Flash Gordon. They went with Flash Gordon. They could have had more Battlestar, more Ron Moore, but no. They went with Flash FUCKING Gordon. Sci Fi will reap what Sci Fi will sow.
. . . and you thought the Sopranos took forever? by aboriginal	Sep 2nd, 2007 01:10:01 AM
WTF, first NBC wants to yank off iTunes and now this shite? Is someone working on a movie in between all this? I'll catch up with Netflix online rentals in 2010 then.
that's terrible news by Jubba	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:05:05 AM
any one of us could die during the break...just show us all the episodes in 2008 in case we don't make it to feb 2009....c'mon now!
I am out of here by jbs0209	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:09:00 AM
Really I was done. But I figured I could hang on for a few more weeks just to get closure. After all, since I only watch about 5-10 shows (I should count some time) all year long, I doubted anything else was going to be on. I figured I could watch, but just not care. But if they are going to stretch this out ... I am out of here. I figure I'll work my way through the W.C. Fields collections
SciFi programming execs by geodesigns	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:09:44 AM
They really messed it up for BSG. They would rather have the new Flash Boredom than BSG- WTF?? I loved BSG and thought the show was brilliant, beyond what SCIFI ever produced. BSG was critically acclaimed and its viewership wideley regarded it as one of the best sci fi shows on TV ever. Hell, even the mainstream media took notice of how good BSG is and they had to royally screw it up by forcing BSG producers to end it early. Y’know, given the inclusion of the wrestling shows, inferior B quality concepts like their new self proclaimed re-imagining of Flash Gordon, and other bombed ideas, it reminds me how some irate BSG fans used to call the show GINO- Galactica In Name Only. I’ll tell you what- the SCIFI Channel’s programming execs are heading the entire channel the same way –SCIFIINO. ----- SCIFI in name only- brought to you by alpha male smackdown wrestlers of the Bonnie Hammer Channel. Yeah- I said it. I'm upset at the SCIFI execs. They lack vision. Brilliant productions will bring viewership. If they keep churning out hack work, they won't get the respect, the buzz or the street cred. Like Galactica, give us something that will make us come out of our genre circle and talk to our friends, co-workers and everyone else of this new thing on SCIFI. The fans will generate the buzz and the backbone of the street cred. Instead SCIFI disappointed us and cancels all the good shows and keeps churning out hack work. Way to go, SCIFI
Hey Larry of Arabia.... by closeencounter	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:10:24 AM
You forgot the other theme-style movies, like Atomic Twister, and Dinosaur-rama, and oh yes, all those glorious Croco-gator classics. Man, Sci-Fi, what hast thy wrought?
Good points, geodesigns.... by closeencounter	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:14:38 AM
Which reminds me, how can a science fiction channel show wrestling? Please, someone explain that one to me.
And while I'm at it....... by closeencounter	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:18:36 AM
All the crap on this channel!! They should have picked-up/bought Joss Whedon's Firefly a few years ago. Oh the possibilities....but then again, they may have screwed with this one too.
Hey, speaking of Sci Fi and MEGASNAKE... by Big Dumb Ape	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:22:03 AM
Did anyone catch that piece of shit? Wow! Not quite up there with the classic wretchedness of MANSQUITO, but it was damn close. Then again ANY snake movie from Sci Fi is bound to be vomit hurling, so why even debate the fact? What I want to know is, was being in THAT actually the "prize" that the guy got for winning last year's WHO WANTS TO BE A SUPERHERO? I swear, as I seemed to remember things, they claimed that the Grand Prize was you got to actually "star" in your own Sci Fi Channel movie. But Feedback got the world's LAMEST 30 second cameo towards the finale, basically playing an amusement park circus act. Are you kidding me? THAT was the prize? I thought he was supposed to get his own movie -- but then again, after sitting through STAN LEE'S HARPIES on Sci Fi as well, maybe he was lucky that he DIDN'T get his own film. That would have ended any hope of an acting career right there and then. I mean STAN LEE'S HARPIES was a total wow. I mean just WOW. Talk about another jaw-dropping Sci Fi Channel shitfest! Which of course brings up the bigger question: namely, who the hell is greenlighting things over there? What, does someone have incriminating pictures of Bonnie Hammer screwing someone on her desk? Or do the Sci Fi Channel yahoo suits actually have the WORST taste in all of TV programming history? Oh yeah, and this BSG news is utter bullshit, but I'm glad to see Bamber completely calling them on it...
closeencounter by Strabo	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:23:35 AM
Don't think of it as a sci-fi channel airing wrestling. Think of it as a channel that--outside of one or two exceptions that just happen to be sci-fi--airs an unending stream of shit. Adding wrestling into that mix doesn't seem so conspicuous when you think of it that way.
Bullshit by Ayii	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:36:29 AM
The reason they moved the start of Season 4 to January was so they could air the season without any interruptions, since they lose viewers during the long breaks and re-runs. I call bullshit on this "source".
fuck sci fi channel. their by jimjom	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:37:38 AM
fuck sci fi channel. their one good hit and they cant stand it they have to remind us all why they only had one hit tv show.
and F*ck Sci Fi Channel by warp11	Sep 2nd, 2007 03:32:34 AM
they mess everything up. they used to be cool at the start, but they just lost after they cancelled Farscape.
a fan's manifesto!!! by PrettyNursePoppie	Sep 2nd, 2007 04:00:48 AM
I'm a total hardcore fan of this show. I love everything they've ever done and I track every movement of every cast member online. And yet, I feel they've betrayed me, so I'm gonna quit watching. Yes, I love this show so much, that just because I've got my knickers in a twist, I'm going to totally quit watching and just read books instead maybe.
Just to side with Sci-Fi.. by Mixiboi	Sep 2nd, 2007 04:07:20 AM
..Just for a sec. When you are a nitch network that maybe gets 25% of the programming money FX gets(and lets say FX get 50% of what Fox broadcast network gets in programming cost) I would too split a show's season in half for double the rating for just the cost of one season. One show doesn't make a network. This is the downside to cable networks that cater to one type of audience. When that audience doesn't tune in enough to actually get the money coffers up to support shows like Stargate and BSG and Farscape for a very long "broadcast TV" time. They get "cutbacks" and I think you guys wouldn't want to see what BSG would look like if they cut the budget of it to run it for another season or two... Think Sliders on Sci-fi(Remember that "they should of picked up firefly" fans)
Sci-Fi knows how to kill a show by THE GALACTICAN	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:13:50 AM
If they want BSG in 2009 too they should make a fifth season! Stripping one season over two years will do nothing but diminish the fanbase. Given their lousy Flash-Gordon-series the should do more BSG right now.
Wish they'd stop doing this by supertoyslast	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:19:58 AM
That's not one season of 20 episodes. It's two seasons of 10 episodes.
Dont do it BSG!! by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:25:53 AM
Come on!! We have accepted that the show is ending. Please just run it to natural end. Dont frak around with us by mating us wait for a year!!! longer than we have to Please!!!
RE: Lee's long hair and beard... by The Ape Giggins	Sep 2nd, 2007 06:14:00 AM
I wonder if this means he's joined that Baltar cult, Baltar has a beard and long hair... Also, I love that Starbuck will be believed to be a cylon, that's keeping with the logic of the show
If they had guts... by Diagnostic	Sep 2nd, 2007 06:15:16 AM
they would end it like blazing saddles. A dance number through Sci-Fi's office and cubicles. Aaron Douglas will have nuthin to do the rest of his life but cons and Science channel narration. But hey, possibly beats what I will be doing.
aparantly its a joke?? by Cupid Stunt	Sep 2nd, 2007 06:25:15 AM
they are now saying on the Galactica boards that this statement was merely a joke. it better be. If Scifi wanted to show galactica in 2009 they should have assured Ron Moore of Season 5.
13 eps of Who per year, setting bad example by BrandLoyalist	Sep 2nd, 2007 08:08:17 AM
I hope Sci Fi's programmers don't watch too much more British TV... Absolutely Fabulous had like 6 episodes a season. We might end up watching season 4 right through the end of 2010. (So it was just a joke right?)
They should bump up the episode orders then! by Dizagaox	Sep 2nd, 2007 08:15:23 AM
If you include Razor, then they should have 11 episodes next year (making S4.1 13-episodes), and then bump up 2009's episodes to 13.
ZUCKER'S AN ASS! by Bluereader	Sep 2nd, 2007 08:27:32 AM
A couple of months ago Jack Welch was asked my Zucker still had a job. His answer? Because Welch isn't in charge any more! Oh, and thanks for screwing up the itune gig, too. You troll!
skiffy has the hammer. by palewook	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:01:55 AM
and bonnie likes to make shit. cheap shit. lots of it. so bonnie will drag out bsg as long as skiffy can. b/c nothing else that channel has, except for BBC reruns, are worth watching.
fucking Sci-Fi channel...always fucking up by Judge Briggs	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:31:31 AM
First Farscape... now they have canceled BSG and want to run the final eps in 2009. What a bunch of fucking idiots!
Sci-Fi channel is like battered wife syndrome by RokurGepta	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:37:17 AM
The sci-fi channel aparrently likes to kick itself in the nards, and by this I mean, it likes to treat the best shows it has like crap.... I personally believe that they really don't care, as long as they are making money, it doesn't matter, to them Battlestar Galactica is old news, they are looking for the next big thing now and failing miserably, I really hope Flash Gordon gets canceled sooner than later. BRING BACK DRESDEN FILES, it's a dark future for sci-fi channel. Let's hope "Tin Man" doesn't suck... oh wait, it's a mini series on sci-fi, that guarantees it will suck... name one good movie or mini-series on sci-fi that was good? and I mean other than the BSG mini or Farscape mini...
frak the Sci-Fi channel by newc0253	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:42:51 AM
frak it in its stupid ass.
Nothing would shock me... by The_Fredo	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:42:59 AM
...where Sci-Fi is concerned. At this point, I'm prepared to believe that next season will begin with a giant snake stalking the crew through the Galactica's hallways. It's clear by now that BSG was a happy accident for Sci-Fi. They got solid writing and good actors and managed to make a great show for NBC...who moved it promptly to Sci-Fi. I'll stick with the show. I want the answers I've been promised. I just hope that Bionic Woman isn't the death knell for BSG, as Eick and Co go on to make that show. For the record though, Flash Gordon continues to be a black hole of suckitude the likes of which have never been seen.
Hey HERC... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:45:20 AM
I think you need to check your sources on this one. Take a quick glance over at the Sci-Fi forums, it appears that it was Bamber (Apollo) who mused/joked about the year break between episodes. Sounds like he might have been doing this out of mild frustration, too. He's been somewhat outspoken in the past about his character as well as Sci-Fi's inability to give the show its due. Regardless, I think it's safe to say that in a general sense, Sci-Fi has dropped the ball TOO many times. However, I can't imagine that they would do something so frakking stupid. Yet, when they run SG-1 24/7 and greenlight shows like FLASH GORDON, I have to wonder...
And Gorrister... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:48:04 AM
...I fully expect you to be present and accounted for at the beginning of Season 4. So Say We All!
If this is true, SCIFI is not just dropping the ball... by NoHubris	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:09:18 AM
...they are dropping the whole game. At least Season 1 was 13 full episodes. If they really are hedging their bets in case of a ratings surge, use Amy Chasing's idea from last season's TB -- let them find earth, then deal with the repercussions. They could even go back out into space to save others left behind and bring them to Earth.
BTW, agree with you MNG RE: FLASH GORDON by NoHubris	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:12:18 AM
Someone needs to check the water in the main office. What were they thinkin'?!
NoHubris! by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:20:00 AM
I don't know, man. But it sounds like that water comes from the same well as BOA vs. PYTHON, CUBE 2: HYPERCUBE, and FRANKENFISH...
Earth (spoiler?) by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:22:12 AM
Didn't RDM say at the recent Con that they do find Earth much earlier than we might suppose?
The Real Spoiler is that EVERYONE IS A CYLON! by uss cygnus	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:33:58 AM
Oh, wait...everybody already knows THAT. It's easy to write "shocking" plot twists when you COMPLETELY IGNORE character history, continuity and simple logic, isn't it, Sky Scouts?
OT: Razor by aubreyq	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:34:48 AM
Is anyone here really interested in Razor? BSG worked so hard to succeed in making me despise the whole crew of Pegasus, that I wonder why they think I'll watch it. Is Razor a multi-season project?
Fuck Fuck Fuckity Fuck-Fuck by fedrich519	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:57:14 AM
This really sucks ass. The did the 10-10 split for S2 and S3, but only split by a few months. NOT A FUCKING YEAR! SHIT! I digress, I bitch, I complain, but I still watch.
Fraking Frackers who Frack by Yeti	Sep 2nd, 2007 11:01:30 AM
And props to Bamber for back handing the Sci-Fi Network.
I talked to David Eick a couple months ago. by Hercules	Sep 2nd, 2007 11:14:58 AM
He said they don't get to Earth until the final episode.
two 10-ep. seasons...that REALLY blows by SantiagoAtez	Sep 2nd, 2007 11:17:17 AM
That's unforgivable. I they went back to the original 13-ep. schedule for 2 more seasons, I could see the logic in that. But 10 eps. is an unforgivably small season.
BSG was the only reason I was watching Sci-Fi anyway. by teethgnasher	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:00:07 PM
Screw Sci-Fi. They can't even show decent reruns of old science fiction shows or movies. Sci-Fi just shows homemade snake/horror stuff. I would rather watch Hercules or Buck Rogers. Keep it simple asswipes.
Question by Kree42	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:09:33 PM
Define ratings gold. Also show is very expensive vs its ratings ratio ,also not defending Sci-fi they do indeed suck and I gave up on the show because I need closure ever so often ,but the show was great.
HEY, MNG!, HubrisLessNess by chromedome	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:37:50 PM
Good news that this might have been only a joking sarcastic comment. It was too absurd to be real, except that we ARE talking about the SciFrak channel, here. Since we are talking about the channel that a) shows wrestling b) airs FlushGordon c) retools an interesting 2-hour PainKiller Jane movie into the dullest possible series where the star can't even PRONOUNCE the word Neuro cancels Dresden Files in favor of the above cancels Farscape
It's the pods. by Pennsy	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:43:25 PM
The pods from Invasion of the Body Snatchers have now taken over the Sci-Fi programming department and made this ridiculous decision. And teethgnasher, once BSG goes, SciFi will join the CW in my 'who cares' TV area.
rest of post by chromedome	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:43:53 PM
wow--I mistyped a < p > and it killed the rest of the post: It would be hard to believe of any other channel, but something this utterly stupid seems like just another day in the executive suites at SciFrak... I don't think it is water--if only they WERE drinking WATER. It seems they must be smoking, snorting, mainlining and drinking all manner of hallucingenics and cognitive suppressants over there BTW, I remember reading somewhere before that they will find Earth in the final episode--and I don't mean just reading it a few posts above! ;-)
Time to pull a Jericho revolt by Alpha Trion	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:51:24 PM
if the stupid fans of jericho could get the network to listen to them, why cant we do thesame for BSG? Whether its a rumot or not, i say we all flood sci-fi with emails and letters and whatever food products we can find to get them to listen to the only audience they have. fuck them in their silly little asses!
I am now staking my claim as Kristen Bell Groupie #1! by Pennsy	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:52:59 PM
From New York Magazine, she's going to be in a new rock band called Kung-Fu Professor with Clark Duke, who plays Dale on ABC Family's Greek (and Party Teenager #1 from Superbad). http://tinyurl.com/36koyo for the info. Bell told TVGuide's Ausiello, "We're not sure what we will sound like and we may not be any good, but we do know we will all be wearing cravats." (!!) She can carry a tune (Showtime's Reefer Madness and VM's Revenge of the Tritons, anyone?)
SciFrak Scenario by chromedome	Sep 2nd, 2007 12:55:45 PM
Exec mainlines hallucinogenic: "I am So Smart" then inhales congnitive suppressant: "dude, wrestling IS science fiction... I am so hungry--ooh, maybe a cooking show, too!"
'Flush Gordon'... by Pennsy	Sep 2nd, 2007 01:06:20 PM
LMAO. :D
Can we get the 1-18-08 monster to wreak some havoc by Pennsy	Sep 2nd, 2007 01:16:29 PM
On the Skiffy programming offices, hopefully with said programmers still IN the building?
The Ape Giggins..."Baltar-cult"... by WONKABAR	Sep 2nd, 2007 01:20:58 PM
lol, good thinking! ...Yeah, I think this rumor is probably bullshit but as someone pointed out, after Flash Gordon I wouldn't rule anything out w/ sci-fi. I don't even want like, a one month split between episodes. I want a straight-through 24-type of season and I want it out on DVD soon after it's over. It's the last season fuckers...do it right shit-fi
This will go down in history with Grampa Simpson... by pokadoo	Sep 2nd, 2007 01:23:02 PM
...canceling Star Trek, and all the other great shows that got fucked over by some idiot. Futurama, Police Squad, Freaks & Geeks etc. Flash Gordon looks shit enough to have a long, happy life with many ugly little spin-off babies, just like Stargate. Only the good die young.
I'm sure glad they're ending BSG early by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu	Sep 2nd, 2007 01:35:34 PM
It saves funding for future masterpieces like Mega Snake, Mansquito, and Supergator. Although, Supergator did have that cute girl in the pink bikini for the 1st half.
What Sci-Fi needs is another Star Gate Spin-0ff by glodene	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:02:25 PM
That seems to make dem' folks wit' dem' Nielsen boxes real happy.
The SciFi channel presents...Snakes on Galactica! by Lord Haw Haw	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:08:03 PM
There's your fifth season on a silver fucking platter, BSG fans! And if you were one of those people secretly desirous of a new and "contemporary" BSG theme by Kanye West that rhymed "Cylon" with "python", rest assured that Sci Fi's on the case!
The True Ending for BSG SPOILERS by GreatCzarsGhost	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:12:05 PM
The Galactica Fleet and the Cylone Mother Hive Resurrection ship (the ship that makes all that is Cylon possible) drop into earth orbit at the same time. Earth is a pristine "Garden of Eden". All hell breaks lose in orbit as the final battle takes place. Both fleets are destroyed and two pilots crash land on the planet. Lee who identifies himself as the final core Cylon, and Kira who has known this since her disappearance. The embrace and then turn to explore this new earth as a true Adam and Eve. Remember you read it here first.
Seasons 4 and 5 by Cobbio	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:27:41 PM
So it's NOT the final season, after all. Instead we've got a ten-episode 4th season and a ten-episode 5th season. Sort of like the shorter seasons of "The Sopranos" or "Deadwood." Sounds good to me.
'True Ending' by Gorrister	Sep 2nd, 2007 02:43:27 PM
The 'Garden of Eden' theory has been floating around since the miniseries first aired.
Thanks for the verification, Herc by NoHubris	Sep 2nd, 2007 03:00:01 PM
What's up MNG! ChromieDomie! To clarify my earlier thoughts, IMHO Scifi should broadcast the full twenty. If the ratings go through the roof (TPTB would know by the 10th show), they could do a Season 5 where some crew members settle on Earth while Galactica goes out with the emptied/retrofitted fleet ships to rescue other remnants of the 12 colonies. This version of Season 5 show could focus partially Earth happenings but would not be landlocked since the main story would still be on Galactica.
Sci-Fi execs have small dicks and small tv seasons by teethgnasher	Sep 2nd, 2007 03:09:49 PM
That's the reason.
The show is becoming pointless just like Smallville by teethgnasher	Sep 2nd, 2007 03:25:54 PM
What is the point in producing a show if you are going to drag out the season. Smallville showed promise, but lost focus when the producers scrapped the idea of building the Superman mythos. Supergirl- too soon, Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen- too soon, Metropolis and Smallville are like 30 miles apart? WTF. As for BSG, should have been wrapped up a year ago. Make the fucking series and move on. Personally, my days of watching television are over. I will wait for the DVD set to be on clearance if I still have an interest in the show.
Wonkabar by NoHubris	Sep 2nd, 2007 03:39:01 PM
Ditto regarding the 24 reference/model. 24-like should be the tone of the show's search for Earth (in light of what is to happen) for all of Season 4.
I can see their point by drmidnite	Sep 2nd, 2007 03:45:08 PM
Lets' face it, Flash Gordon's a 22 episode turkey just like Painkiller Jane, they've cancelled SG-1, Dresden Files and there's a good chance of either a writers or actors strike (my money's on the actors), that leaves just Eureka (Sci Fi's highest-rated drama). So splitting the two seasons makes sense. Anyway, enough of GINO. Lets's talk Doctor Who's second Hugo win!
What was the point of a BSG Comic-Con panel? by teethgnasher	Sep 2nd, 2007 04:18:43 PM
"Hey gals, let's dress like hookers and promote a ten episode season!" That sounds like a perfect SNL sketch.
"Yo, Mansquito!" by Pennsy	Sep 2nd, 2007 04:56:28 PM
The single cheesiest line of any movie ever?
I have more respect for the Star Trek producers now by teethgnasher	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:10:06 PM
At least they committed to making a FULL season.
In addition by teethgnasher	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:14:28 PM
Taking so long to make a show didn't pay off for the Sopranos show either. Creativity needs a deadline sometimes.
Can someone translate these statements... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:19:35 PM
...from teethgnasher: "What is the point in producing a show if you are going to drag out the season." "Make the fucking series and move on." "Hey gals, let's dress like hookers and promote a ten episode season!"
Yeah, GreatCzarsGhost, the "true ending" by d1138	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:34:13 PM
would come from someone who thinks the character's name is "Kira." Uh-huh.
Grand Finale by Roboteer	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:43:39 PM
A freebee for all you budding SFChannel VP's in charge of programming for the next BSG creative conference. A tag team mud wrestling match between Katee/Grace and Tricia/Lucy in pink bikinis for the fate of the Galaxy. Last one with a top or bottom on wins. Now THAT's entertainment!.... Your welcome.
Huh? by bluebottle	Sep 2nd, 2007 05:55:32 PM
So SCI-FI is doing the exact OPPOSITE of what ABC is doing with "Lost" after losing a ton of viewers because of a huge break in the middle of the season... Smaaart.
E-MAIL SCI FI IN MASS by lightyearmodels	Sep 2nd, 2007 06:00:00 PM
I am going to send them standard e-mail everyday telling them that they should air the last 20 episodes during the winter and spring of 2008. You should too
WTF bluebottle? by raw_bean	Sep 2nd, 2007 06:07:42 PM
If they're doing this, SciFi are doing the exact same as ABC are doing with Lost, or didn't you hear about the remaining two 24-episode seasons of Lost being split into three years of 16-ep seasons?
flood the sci-fi offices with salt by Alpha Trion	Sep 2nd, 2007 08:32:13 PM
and let them know if they plan on severing the fans from the show with their horrible corporate decisions, then we'll supply the salt for our wounds when theyre done.
give us a final season to remember by Alpha Trion	Sep 2nd, 2007 08:34:06 PM
not one that we will forget a year later when they decide to finish it.
Sci-Fi by Alientoast	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:04:33 PM
The Farscape webisodes will air. Sci-Fi will go "Hmm, they did ok! Lets make a series!". They will change the time it airs about 20 times, then split the 16 episode order into 1.5 seasons in order to make more money. They will then decide they want to film season 2 in Canada, thus losing %80 of the cast in the process. Sci-fi will replace Chiana, Stark, and Dargo (HE AINT DEAD!!!) with Amanda Tapping, Michael Shanks, and Christopher Judge and the Peacekeepers will all speak with Canadian accents now...
A new milestone in greed and cheapness... by BurnHollywood	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:18:41 PM
Don't want to pay for a season beyond the fourth? Just s-t-r-e-t-c-h the already measly fourth season out over two entire years!
Sci Fi was dead to me the moment they cancelled DRESDEN by SpyGuy	Sep 2nd, 2007 09:41:26 PM
...and then started running the piece of shit claiming to be FLASH GORDON. Sure, they still show DOCTOR WHO, but now that BBC America is running the series (with better promos, I might add), why the fuck do we need Sci Fi anymore?
Dresden by Gorrister	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:02:12 PM
Never understood why Dresden was cancelled and BSG wasn't. They both got nearly identical ratings for the time they ran together.
Just watched A&E's Sopranos marathon- "Whitecaps" by Pennsy	Sep 2nd, 2007 10:55:21 PM
And Jennifer Garner got so effing hosed out of that 2003 Best Drama Actress Emmy award it wasn't even funny. Edie Falco drove a virtual Brinks truck to that year's emmys and STOLE Garner's rightful award. We now return you to your 'lets piss on SciFi' talkback.
Pennsy by chromedome	Sep 2nd, 2007 11:29:53 PM
Yea, I never got all the praise for Edie Falco in that role, either. She was good, and did the role well enough, but no better than anyone else in the show or anything. There must have been some extra Soprano's cache adding points to her score. Or maybe Tony sent Joey Pants to lean on one of the judges....
E-Mail campaigns are spam by Gorrister	Sep 3rd, 2007 12:05:41 AM
Flooding SciFi with emails will not work. You'll just end up with the rest of the unread spam. Believe it or not, the old fashioned paper and ink letters carry a LOT more weight with the networks.
Comoooorl? by CuervoJones	Sep 3rd, 2007 03:21:39 AM
Jarl!
How will SciFi make more $$ splitting it up? by FrodoFraggins	Sep 3rd, 2007 04:30:27 AM
I assume they expect the ratings to be higher per episode with shortened seasons? It can't be the DVD sales as they already split those suckers up.
Only reach Earth in the final Episode? by FrodoFraggins	Sep 3rd, 2007 04:33:26 AM
How can that not end the series with a big To Be Continued? To avoid that they'd have to of destroyed the cylons, made piece with them or earth is like wiped out from nuclear war. I'm very interested to see where this leads. I'm somewhat interested in Razor. I loved the pegasus arc, think that was the shows zenith, but that was mainly due to the power struggle and the drama related to boomer.
They had to cancel Dresden... by Sledge Hammer	Sep 3rd, 2007 07:18:59 AM
...to make way for the pure awsomeness that is Painkiller Jane and Flash Gordon. And yes, I am being sarcastic (for anyone who can't spot the obvious).
Splitting the season by Gorrister	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:26:11 AM
Like I said before, I think splitting the season up (if this rumor is actually true) could be a big Hail Mary play. If ratings for the first half of the season are significantly better, then SciFi can pull a 180 on ending the show.
They saw the gang rape in season 2 and decided to... by performingmonkey	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:59:02 AM
...do it to us. That's right, if this is true we have just been gang-raped by Sci-fi execs. Thankyou and goodnight.
If only they were to give us two full seasons. by LoneGun	Sep 3rd, 2007 11:10:52 AM
I'm still heartbroken that this incredible series will be coming to a close this early.
Gorrister by NoHubris	Sep 3rd, 2007 12:07:06 PM
I should've given you a direct hat tip regarding the Hail Mary in my related post yesterday. I mentioned Amy Chasing's idea, but should have also referenced you specifically regarding my ratings surge remark. Still, if that's what they are trying to do, it's time to call SciFi staff, Eick & Moore, and a good business consultant into the conference room for a brain storming session. They should be able to do much better than this.
SciFi Channel beancounters by geodesigns	Sep 3rd, 2007 01:23:37 PM
Frakkin muther frakkin SciFi Channel beancounters AKA the Bonnie muther frakkin Hammer Channel- spliiting up the final BSG season in two years--- 2008 and 2009?????!!!!???? WTF???? Making fans wait for the end of BSG while they collect a big muther frakin check!!!!!!!!! All we want is BSG, and since they forced RDM & crew to end it early, they can't even air the frakkin episodes on time????? SciFi Channel executives- you idiots, you're saving a penny but losing a legion of fans. They can go to frakkin frak SciFi Hell, those greedy overpaid six & seven figure muther frakkin SciFi Channel executives!!!!!!!!!!!! You know what the execs discuss in the boardroom? They laugh at the sci-fi fans, call us nerds, dweebs and losers while they collect their frakkin check, but I as a fan brush it off because they have no clue what genre devotion is- you muther frakkers. We go to San Diego, We go to Dragon Con, to movie premieres on opening midnight, we buy the merchandise, hunt for the chase item, we watch the shows and buy the DVD's, we set aside time to watch the shows on TV, even though you switch around the muther frakkin days, with is your sign of a no confidence vote----- WE PAY YOUR SALARY YOU MUTHERFRAKKERS!!!!!. Hope you get probed by the Greys you frakkers!!!! yeah, I said it.
Pretty obvious... by Kampbell-Kid	Sep 3rd, 2007 02:21:38 PM
..they want to drag out the only hit they have for as long as its worth. If so they should at least order up some more episodes or at least space them out so the gap isn't so bad.
Godanmit!!! by Billyeveryteen	Sep 3rd, 2007 04:58:46 PM
Why do I always feel like a battered housewife to this show?? Flush Gordon makes me want to claw my eyes out.
Here's my theory... by RogueWarrior65	Sep 3rd, 2007 08:43:43 PM
Everyone's a Cylon...most of the die in a final battle sequence...the rest find Earth and become...wait for it...LIBERALS! Dun dun DUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!
This just in... by SG7	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:37:15 PM
"Mansquito" will go to series and has a firm two season order, 22 episodes per season.
The only way SciFi can screw up any harder... by SG7	Sep 3rd, 2007 10:39:53 PM
...is to nuke the weak but watchable Atlantis. SciFi is done. When BSG wraps up then ADIOS. Perhaps then Mr. moore can do his "Pern."
They should air it as one full season. by Darth Mulder	Sep 4th, 2007 01:13:58 AM
The sooner this poorly written,poorly acted,and just plain poorly executed piece of shit excuse for a television show goes off the air the happier I will be.It's a damned shame this was allowed to hit the airwaves to begin with.
DVD by Bono Luthor	Sep 4th, 2007 05:15:10 AM
I just got the series three dvd set here in the UK and it really is the only way to watch these shows now. No capitalist propoganda interupting the flow of the story and trying to get you to spend money on things you don't need. You can watch as many episodes back to back as you need in order to get your geek fix. Modern tech and gadgets mean you have the convenience of watching pretty much when and where you want. BSG is a great, great show. Where it ends up on the all time list will depend on how it plays out between now and the end. I'm looking forward to immersing myself in this third series which has had so many mixed re-actions, but until this point I don't think they have put a foot wrong. People who can't see how well this show is written must hold Fraggle Rock in high regard as an example of good drama.
Fraggle Rock probably had a ten episode season too by teethgnasher	Sep 4th, 2007 06:52:46 AM
It might be true. BSG writers have the same problem as Fraggle Rock writers. How to get from point A to point B in a story. This explains all the FILLER episodes from last season.
more BSG stuff... by Grendy	Sep 4th, 2007 09:30:01 AM
will be sent in later this week. I was there as well, and have an interview with Aaron Douglas to transcribe as well as phone interviews with Jamie Bamber and Mark Sheppard (Romo the lawyer from the last 3 eps of season 3 and is in the new Bionic Woman) to do in the coming week or so. So, look here for that, as I will be sending them in when done.
WOW HERC - THANKS FOR THE SPOILER DUMBASS! by DocArzt	Sep 4th, 2007 09:54:24 AM
Way to go hercules. Don't you think that tidbit should have gone in invisotext somewhere instead of being inside of a black highlighted box? Do you know anything about fan scene etiquette?
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING by turketron	Sep 4th, 2007 10:13:25 AM
AAAGGHHh! Split the final season in half over two years? Are you kidding me!? And what the hell is with the Deathproof DVD!? First of all where is the far superior Planet Terror, and second where is the full GRINDHOUSE?
Thank you SciFi Channel. by BillyPilgrim	Sep 4th, 2007 10:55:43 AM
Thank you for keeping B actors and C producers off of welfare and unemployment. Your continued support of shitty programming keeps the economy looking good.
Fuck it then, I'm done with BSG till DVD by _Maltheus_	Sep 4th, 2007 12:04:34 PM
I made up my mind at the end of the last season that I'd only continue with this show if it only have one more season left. If they're going to stretch it to two seasons, then I'm not bothering with it in February. I'm sure I'll catch it on DVD eventually, but fuck Sci-Fi for this. Fuck em up their stupid asses. Maybe they'll release it all at once on Universal HD and I can simply download it all like they did for SG-1 and Atlantis last season. Sci-Fi and HBO must be sucking each others balls these days with all the 'brilliant' decisions they've been making.
Re: Jericho...Send tons of disposable razors by dumbpeoplesuck	Sep 4th, 2007 12:40:48 PM
At the least they can shave their dumb asses! All this to protest not just how much they'll be screwing up the only thing going for them, but the obnoxious pricing of the DVD sets! What a frakkin' rape of the consumer! I guess that is the only way they can make money outside of wrestling...?
WTF!!!!!!!? by landocolt45	Sep 4th, 2007 12:41:35 PM
Sci-fi only gets BSG 10 eps a year but gives crappy shows like Painkiller Jane more than 10! And SG-1 lasted 10 freakin years why can't BSG???! I know that may be a long time for that but you get my point. Sci-fi seems to not like anything lasting more than 4 years (Farscape anyone?) Why do they cut their own throat and do this with their best shows and leave utter garbage like Flash Gordon in the spot light? They need some new execs there or something. ugh.
Send the bitchin' here.... by drewbyh	Sep 4th, 2007 12:53:23 PM
feedback@scifi.com
Incomprehensible by _Maltheus_	Sep 4th, 2007 01:46:09 PM
I am one of the many who've been profoundly upset with the meandering that both BSG and Lost have been taking this past year (I know there are diehards here, I'm not looking for a fight). Many shows take turns for the worse for various reasons, but in the case of these two shows, the primary criticism has been that they're taking too long to do anything. How could studio execs actually think that the way to fix them is to stretch them out even longer? Shows only lose more viewers each subsequent season. This can only result in reduced ratings. Also, more and more people are doing the DVR/DVD thing instead of watching shows live. I guarantee you this will be a worse problem for the studios in 2009 than it will be in 2008 (especially with moves like this). There is simply no logic to this decision. Bonnie Hammer is now officially up there with Berman and Bragga as Hollywood's most incompetent executives. They've obviously blackmailed or slept their way into their jobs. The whole thing reeks as an attempt to tie up the actors/writers/directors/produ cers so that Sci-Fi will have less competition in 2009.
Like I said before, I think by fireclown	Sep 5th, 2007 09:05:00 AM
Like I said before, I think splitting the season up (if this rumor is actually true) could be a big Hail Mary play. If ratings for the first half of the season are significantly better, then SciFi can pull a 180 on ending the show. That would piss me even more. What the frak is wrong with these people?
Feldercarp! by MachThree	Sep 5th, 2007 11:02:01 AM
So say we all!
node by PVIII	Sep 5th, 2007 01:59:47 PM
partial to Damages myself, but Mad Men is a close second. Get with it Herc.
Letter Writing Campaign by geodesigns	Sep 6th, 2007 06:49:35 AM
SciFi Execs just ruined it. Can a letter writing campaign even work for this one? Even if fans can initiate a response (by example of the Trek TOS 70’s campaign or the recent Jericho campaign), the problem is that the die is cast, and RDM and writing staff will finalize the story arcs with the selected number of episodes. The production then goes much beyond a script; it then goes through the production pipeline to spend costs on soundstage, equipment, location, talent, crew, support staff for pre, pro and post work. If by a miracle a campaign by the fans would be heard by the bosses of those SciFi exec winners, and more episodes would be approved, the people involved in the current production are moving on, because they have no promises of further seasons. They’ve been given the pink slip, and their back to hunting for work- it’s sad but true. Some will fair better than others. A series cancellation disrupts the livelihood of all those involved in the production. The reality is that anyone involved in BSG work needs to get paid to support their lives (while SciFi execs have a full-time job sitting comfortably in their plush offices- their livelihood does not end if a series is cancelled). So here’s the question. What would YOU like to see happen if more budget is pumped into BSG? 1) another season- this time 22 episodes aired in one solid year? 2) A series of BSG TV Movies? 3) Animated episodes? 4)Video games like the PS2 game a few years ago? 5) Season Concept: Flashback to Caprica? 6) Season Concept: BSG during journey to Earth? 7) Season Concept: An ultra cool (not Galactica:1980) story of Galactica reaching Earth and the adventure ensuing upon arrival? Just some ideas from your fellow talkbacker here- demonstrating to those SCFI exec losers that if they had a shred of vision, leadership, genre devotion and fan appreciation, they can be the new visionaries of their time, instead of going down in our history books as Yes-Drones, those frakkin check-collecting wimps. We have no respect for them. Respect is earned. If some execs are reading this: DO SOMETHING FOR BSG TO EARN OUR RESPECT!
I have seen Razor by secretcylon	Sep 6th, 2007 10:29:17 AM
Total Mindf*** It just makes it that much harder to wait for Season 4.
Scifi has made too great series. A few really good by CrichtonAstronut	Sep 6th, 2007 11:41:32 AM
ones but only two great ones: Farscape and Battlestar Galactica, and now they've screwed over both of them. And what the hell were they thinking with Flash Gordon. That series could've been so good. Practically coud've written itself and this is what they turn it into. Doctor Who and Eureka's all they've got left and Doctor Who's not even really there's. Especally now that BBC-America's finally airing the series. That, Torchwood and Jekyll make BBC-A the real scifi channel. And BTW want to make a great scuifi series without blow a millions on just effects check out Jekyll, very lite on effects and is about the best scifi series or miniseries I've scene in years. I mean Buffy seeason 2 great. Maybe better. Sombody tell me what Steven Moffat next project is I'm there.
If it's true they should shoot more eps next year by performingmonkey	Sep 6th, 2007 07:00:50 PM
Networks are full of shit. They want to axe a show but still keep it for two years for the price of one. Fuckheads. On another note, does anyone know what the big storyline cut from season 3 was? Apparently this is partly why there seemed to be too many 'filler' eps, because they had to cut something big. Does anyone know what it was?
performingmonkey by secretcylon	Sep 6th, 2007 07:34:10 PM
I believe the plot had to do with the sagitarons (or whoever the sick refugees were in that filer ep with Helo). That episode wasn't supposed to be filler, but rather the beginning of a plot that was somehow connected with Baltar's book and the women who come to rescue Baltar after his trial. Ron Moore talks about his in the blog for the Helo episode.
The Ghost Hunters and EM Punk on BSG by The Green Monster	Sep 7th, 2007 03:22:45 PM
Brian Harnois will do EVP work on Galactica. "Dude, Run!"
SciFi Fuck ups by hunter55	Apr 28th, 2008 10:39:27 PM
1)Babylon 5 spin offs 2)SG-1 3)BSG 4)Twlight Zone marathons 5)Giant snake and aligator movies
Oh yea by hunter55	Apr 28th, 2008 10:41:03 PM
and I forget the biggest fuck up of all: Farscape!!!!!

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