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A Cool Item For The Carpenter / Plissken Fans Out There...

first agAIN by irc-Hollywood	Aug 30th, 2007 09:04:00 AM
YUCK YUCK YUCK
Escape from LA was such a disappointment by MonkeyBytes	Aug 30th, 2007 09:04:22 AM
Seriously, what a great concept gone wrong.
Might be cool by toshiro-solo	Aug 30th, 2007 09:06:00 AM
Now if we could only get Darabont to eBay his Indiana Jones script...
Fresno Bob by bc1970	Aug 30th, 2007 09:14:13 AM
figures prominently into the script. The existing sequel is one of the biggest disappointments, right there with the prequels and Matrix. It could've been awesome, instead of a retread.
"The arrival of ESCAPE FROM L.A. was bittersweet" by redtom	Aug 30th, 2007 09:20:33 AM
"The arrival of ESCAPE FROM L.A. was bittersweet (for me, at least). It felt a little heartless...a bit lackluster." And by that you mean Utter Fucking Rubbish? Can't disagree there...
Fifth by King_Knut	Aug 30th, 2007 09:21:05 AM
Hmm... still not sure 'bout this one. Is Carpenter the most re-made director of modern times?
Escape from L.A. was camp! by DEX	Aug 30th, 2007 09:22:58 AM
It was awful. I think Snake Plissken riding the surfboard was right up there with Batman ice skating in Batman & Robin!
imdb coleman by FlyingOfficerTrubshawe	Aug 30th, 2007 09:22:59 AM
and it's not the most inspiring of lists is it? There's a part of me that would rather read fan scripts then this...
surely a pre EFNY would be better by FlyingOfficerTrubshawe	Aug 30th, 2007 09:24:44 AM
with the dramatisation of Snake's military missions. Precinct 13 was on the other day - Napoleon Smith is cooler than Plisken... discuss...
I highly enjoyed Escape from LA by slone13	Aug 30th, 2007 09:37:29 AM
Was it as good as NY? Of course not, but then again it neveer tried to be. It was a parody of the first. Something pretty rare in most sequels. Gremlins II did it. And certainly all the Pink Panthers after A Shot in the Dark did it as well.
Snake Plissken? by rev_skarekroe	Aug 30th, 2007 09:37:52 AM
Heard he was dead.
EFNY = completely badass. EFLA = shit. by Chrighton	Aug 30th, 2007 09:45:11 AM
I would love to get a look at that script.
Come on, you fuckers. by Gilkuliehe	Aug 30th, 2007 10:04:26 AM
The ending of EFLA alone is worth the price of admission. Not to mention other silly fun moments like the plastic surgery freaks or the basketball scene. Sure, it was all a revamped version of EFNY but still, it was fun as hell. Yerkwads.
It's spelled jerkwads, right? by Gilkuliehe	Aug 30th, 2007 10:16:41 AM
English is not my first language, azzholes.
Snake Plissken in my cab? by Otto Parts	Aug 30th, 2007 10:18:13 AM
Wait'll I tell Eddie!
"I am Coleman Luck, and this is my only copy... by Stalin vs Predator	Aug 30th, 2007 10:22:09 AM
...today!" Not that there's anything wrong with it. He'll probably sell a bundle. By the way, it's probably nowhere as good as the real "Escape from LA", as damn fine wink-wink of a film as "Escape from NY" was damn fine in the serious-grimy department.
Actually, the Y makes it better. by Stalin vs Predator	Aug 30th, 2007 10:24:01 AM
It's also fodder for some TV lines destined to become classics: "Jou're a yerk!"
Answer: The Escape From LA script description on Ebay by skimn	Aug 30th, 2007 10:37:20 AM
Question: Whats the first thing in 11 years that Coleman Luck has written for public consumption? Alex, can I have Homeless Celebrities for 200 please?
Will the proceeds go towards producing Predator 3? by Spandau Belly	Aug 30th, 2007 10:55:19 AM
Hollywood should start auctioning off shares in actual movie concepts. They could make a page where fans could chip in and would subsequently get a proportional return on any profits. It would be a good way of realizing fans' demand. I'd put in $10 for Predator 3, $5 for Transporter 3, and $15 for Ronin 2.
Wow, that is very cool & interesting news. by LoneGun	Aug 30th, 2007 11:02:58 AM
I had now idea about this script. And THE EQUALIZER was a remarkable series. I would love to see this other version on EFLA. One can only wonder what could have been...
Charisma Carpenter? by Dr Hemlock	Aug 30th, 2007 11:34:08 AM
with Snake Plissken?
Fresno Bob by la_sith	Aug 30th, 2007 11:46:00 AM
I think this character- briefly mentioned in Escape from NY- had a major role in this. The filmed version of Escape from LA was not THAT bad. It has its moments. But it was a satire. A spoof of the original. That wasn't what I was hoping for.
Escape from LA was totally a remake of NY by StovetopStuffin'	Aug 30th, 2007 11:53:38 AM
in that plot point for plot point it was identical. The only thing making it not a remake was that it mentions the events of the first one. The only good thing about EFLA is Bruce Campbell and his fucked up plastic surgery people. I wish they had been the main baddies. They could have made it so that instead of him having to save someone from a city, Pliskin would have to save the city from someone. Someone like Bruce Campbell. Could have been fuckin' cool, but instead was just hard to watch.
You guys are getting confused.... by Boromir187	Aug 30th, 2007 12:26:23 PM
....Fresno Bob factored majorly into the Peter Briggs script for Escape From LA. The Coleman Luck script has never been made publicly available (until now). Pretty much here is how it went: Carpenter/Russell decided towards the end of the 80s that they wanted to do a sequel, so then ended up commissioning Coleman Luck to write a draft. Unfortunately the studio it was set up at went bankrupt, so the project died off. A few years later they ended up setting the property up at Paramount and commissioned Peter Briggs to write a script for it. His version featured the character Fresno Bob in a main role. Carpenter/Russell weren't pleased with it, so they decided to write their own screenplay for the film with Debra Hill. As for the original Coleman Luck script, the only thing that is known about it is that supposedly it is set in LA (now an island prison like NY) and in the end Snake finds out that he is a clone.
Escape From New York 3: Snake on a Plane! by MagicPhone	Aug 30th, 2007 12:28:55 PM
Yeah, I said it!
where is the lost SURVIVING CLEVELAND film script? by George Newman	Aug 30th, 2007 01:18:16 PM
"You may have escaped New York, and you may have survived Cleveland, but you are not going to escape LA"
Harry should be buying this shit by ODM	Aug 30th, 2007 01:51:45 PM
Ain't the guy a bajillionaire by now?
That's a very cool bit of geekdom, but... by SpencerTrilby	Aug 30th, 2007 01:55:22 PM
I'd rather pay for it to be published. Either that, or run an in-FUCKING-depth review once you grabbed it. So we can all enjoy it. Oh, and for the record, I love EFLA.
Saw EFNY in the theater and... by Cellar Door	Aug 30th, 2007 01:57:04 PM
...it was THE definitive badass film of the day. Once upon a time Carpenter made some of the best action/horror/action-comedies (EFNY, The Thing, and Big Trouble in Little China). But I'm sorry...camp or not...farce or not....EFLA was craptastic and made me punch myself. Even the sheer badass-ness of Pliskin couldn't save that ass-sploitation.
publishing by Bloo	Aug 30th, 2007 01:58:54 PM
that would be the way to go, market it with a Coleman Luck interview or something at the beginning like Ellison did with his original City on the Edge of Forever script
Snake Plissken, Fresno Bob... by neutrino	Aug 30th, 2007 02:03:26 PM
and Texas Mike O'Shay are sent in to rescue West Hollywood Ramone.
The F/X in EFLA were so bad they were laughable by r2hunter	Aug 30th, 2007 02:33:42 PM
Do you think they did that on purpose or did they think they were making cutting edge effects?
Also on Ebay: Looking over at a laughing Kurt Russell by Pound Sand	Aug 30th, 2007 03:05:09 PM
Who is your Pay Pal?
Escape from LA sucked, BUT... by Kid Z	Aug 30th, 2007 03:09:15 PM
...Ya gotta love Snake Plissken, so I enjoy watching it anyway from time to time.
EFLA was a cool 70s movie.. by theycallmemrglass	Aug 30th, 2007 03:33:56 PM
Carpenter actually sent his footage back in time to the special effects department to retain that "70s" movie feel. Snake rules.
EFLA is awesome by George Peppard	Aug 30th, 2007 04:30:54 PM
and it's all mine. College-age weasels of 2012 will "rediscover" it and I'm gonna be pissed.
ESCAPE FROM EARTH by compn	Aug 30th, 2007 04:32:32 PM
unproduced sequel from 3rd party, hmmmmm. ----- sounds good but i wouldnt pay over $10 to read it.@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ I WANT TO READ THE ESCAPE FROM EARTH SCRIPT. my take: PLISSKEN is on the run from the GOVERNMENT and BOUNTY HUNTERS and the end of the movie he gets on the ONLY to MARS. end: cut away from PLISSKEN eyepatch to outside of rocket to EARTH, still in blackout from L.A.'s ending.
Re: The F/X in EFLA were so bad they were laughable by abcdefghijklmnop	Aug 30th, 2007 04:41:59 PM
I always thought the film was rushed, in order to get it out by late summer. I believe this is what Carpenter has said in interviews. Of course, he's also implied that it was the studio's idea to essentially remake the first film- something that the Coleman Luck script would seem to contradict. Personally, the f/x never really bothered me, since it just adds to the whole B movie feel. The real problem was that the filmmakers and the fans seemed to have conflicting ideas as to what the series should be. I don't think Carpenter or Russell ever realized how seriously fans took the first one. During an appearance on the Tonight Show in `96, Russell summed up EFLA by telling the crowd, "Just have fun with it."
er by compn	Aug 30th, 2007 04:42:17 PM
ONLY rocket that is
I read this back in 1989. It was good. by Uncapie	Aug 30th, 2007 04:46:59 PM
Now, this was the script they should have made. It was well thought out, good action scenes and good characters.
checking out this guys ended auctions... by TheNorthlander	Aug 30th, 2007 05:16:02 PM
This guy Coleman Luck is into weird knives and mentalism in a big way.
There is a "Carpenter mythology"? by wahwah	Aug 30th, 2007 05:26:41 PM
What's that?
You don't know there's a Carpenter mythology? by TheNorthlander	Aug 30th, 2007 05:31:02 PM
no sunday school for you, wahwah?
Kid Z: Did you just say... by TheNorthlander	Aug 30th, 2007 05:34:57 PM
Escape from LA sucked butt? I mean, it was bad but it didn't suck butt. Highlander 2 sucked butt. The Phantom Menace sucked butt. It wasn't on THAT level.
I like ESCAPE FROM LA by Vern	Aug 30th, 2007 06:47:45 PM
I mean, I get why people were disappointed. We wanted a sequel and Carpenter did a remake instead. But god damn if it isn't entertaining. I like NEW YORK better, but I would argue that Plissken is even more badass in LA. He looks way tougher at that age, for one thing. He gets more badass oneliners. He does the western style jump from motorcycle to motorcycle. He attacks Disneyland. He fucks over the entire world at the end, and then celebrates with a cigarette! Also, I think people who hate LA fail to notice that NEW YORK has a sense of humor too. Or did you think the Duke of New York and his car were gritty realism? So what is so wrong about making a hilarious and brilliant scene where instead of gladiatorial combat, Snake has to kickass at street ball? I don't understand how you could hate that, unless you hate entertainment. Also I love the rockin version of the theme song. But it's too bad they didn't get to do a real sequel. Maybe they'll do one to the remake, but I want the real Snake Plissken, not the remake one. And a John Carpenter score is essential.
You're all wrong, L.A. is awesome and underrated by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Aug 30th, 2007 06:48:18 PM
Even the basketball and surfing parts.
Nice offer but.. by Stalkeye	Aug 30th, 2007 07:20:07 PM
I spent my last 70 bucks on Bioshock (Xbox360). Oh wells.. PS EFLA was a minor letdown for numerous reasons but it was cool to see Russel reprise his role as the iconic Plissken. Autopilot thumbs down on the remake.
This just in from e-bay... by Smerdyakov	Aug 30th, 2007 08:29:21 PM
Bidding on the script has just reached three dollars and eighty five cents.
I work for eBay by Gwai Lo	Aug 30th, 2007 08:45:16 PM
Consider yourselves warned
EFLA ending by Unlabled	Aug 30th, 2007 09:22:12 PM
was dope as all hail... Admit it, the ending owned you and your family.
The best part of Escape from L.A. by MilesGloriosus	Aug 30th, 2007 09:26:24 PM
Don't forget the best part of "Escape from L.A.": The babelicious A.J. Langer in a slavegirl costume. It's just our bad luck that she (reportedly) refused to go nude. What ever happened to her, anyway?
ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK did have a sense of humor but... by LoneGun	Aug 30th, 2007 09:41:10 PM
...it wasn't exactly a comedic film, which L.A. was. ESCAPE FROM NY was mostly serious in tone, and that served to make the dramatic situation feel all the more dire. I mean, that film was intense. I think ESCAPE FROM LA was a misfire on Carpenter's part, though Kurt Russell was great, as he always is.
THE EQUALIZER was a great show. by LoneGun	Aug 30th, 2007 10:11:38 PM
Can't wait to see the movie version in the works. With Michael Connelly writing the script, I expect it to be one kick-ass film!
I wonder if this version has Snake surfing? I hope so.. by Riley Martin	Aug 30th, 2007 10:20:29 PM
Cause that was my favorite part of the movie
ESCAPE FROM LA was campy, yes, and it was silly. by LoneGun	Aug 30th, 2007 11:55:33 PM
Which is not to say that it was bad. I think a lot of people got enjoyment from it. But, as a fan of the original ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, which was a pure adrenaline rush, I couldn't help but feel somewhat betrayed by EFLA. To have waited anxiously for fifteen years for a sequel, only to have it played for laughs, was extremely disappointing.
I love Escape from LA by CuervoJones	Aug 31st, 2007 01:09:07 AM
It´s a great satire, just like Starship Troopers.
The Equalizer is playing on Universal HD channel... by Bill Clay	Aug 31st, 2007 02:01:02 AM
Damn, Edward Woodward looks great in HD!
Good to see a last final barrage of defense on EFLA! by theycallmemrglass	Aug 31st, 2007 04:49:20 AM
Good going people - cos I dig this movie big time - it was satirical, retro, cool and fun. And yeah I loved the surfing too! The shoddy effects just added to the campy charm.
EFLA is so much better than todays Drock by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks	Aug 31st, 2007 05:38:01 AM
Russell is Plisken. DRAW!
I love Escape from LA also by DarfurOnTheRocks	Aug 31st, 2007 09:15:34 AM
That stand-off scene is still the best.... Draw!
"The babelicious A.J. Langer in a slavegirl costume". by C.K. Lamoo	Aug 31st, 2007 09:25:28 AM
Yeah, if you like your slavegirls covered with big unattractive moles. I imagine the downfall of Langer was HDTV. In other news, bidding has almost reached five dollars.

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