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Comic Con Teaser For BEOWULF Hits Online!!!

1st by quizkidsmith	Aug 24th, 2007 03:12:12 PM
...meh
looks cool by eggbeater	Aug 24th, 2007 03:13:08 PM
that's it
Bring on Gilgamesh next by ChestBumpingFatKids	Aug 24th, 2007 03:13:14 PM
Fuck it
This years "Final Fantasy: Spirits Within". by Mike_D	Aug 24th, 2007 03:22:11 PM
it'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
WTF w/ this ID stuff?! by TheWumpus	Aug 24th, 2007 03:26:00 PM
I don't want them to know who I am! How do they know that I faked my name-- How do they know who I am?!
they know EVERYTHING TheWumpus by just pillow talk	Aug 24th, 2007 03:29:16 PM
Bastards.
i'm with wumpus by SuperFinn	Aug 24th, 2007 03:30:02 PM
"We're sorry, we were unable to verify your information at this time." Verify!? from/with what? i punched in a legit us zip code, and a phony name/birtdate... is the site down?
Speaking of Gilgamesh by garyploski	Aug 24th, 2007 03:31:12 PM
http://tinyurl.com/29a8m3 Looks sweet... The teaser and the book.
Thanks Garyploski! by KillaKane	Aug 24th, 2007 03:37:09 PM
Nice one ;-)
How is this so bold and different? by dance4days	Aug 24th, 2007 03:37:56 PM
All it reminds me of is 300.
What? I gotta allow the NSA to snoop on me... by Kid Z	Aug 24th, 2007 03:38:07 PM
... just to see the lame-ass Beowulf teaser? Eff THAT!
First Epic Tale of English Literature... in 3-D! by Nosferatu Jones	Aug 24th, 2007 03:46:59 PM
LMAO... thanks for that, Harry, whether intentional or not. I'll be a good mood for the rest of the day.
Whats the purpose of HD trailers if they.... by teamneedle	Aug 24th, 2007 03:48:49 PM
compress the shit out of them? I really hope mocap is improved for avatar. Looks like funk.
How long till mo-cap porn? by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu	Aug 24th, 2007 03:52:34 PM
I want to see the Blue Lady from Fifth Element going down on Peter North. Technology, don't let me down now!!!
Shenanigans by plastroncafe	Aug 24th, 2007 03:57:45 PM
I actually put down my real name, and yet still got no content. Way to suck Beowulf.
this will bomb. by PVIII	Aug 24th, 2007 04:11:00 PM
looks like a Diablo II segment.
I don't even HAVE a Zip Code.... by Pawprint	Aug 24th, 2007 04:12:38 PM
I'm British living in Germany - I just typed "New York zip codes" into Google, entered the first one I saw along with my real name and got access. Snoop away NSA!
Agree with many TBers... by Pawprint	Aug 24th, 2007 04:13:35 PM
This does look like a 'cutscene' from a PC game.
Who the fuck wants to see a naked CG Angelina Jolie? by Mr_Incredible	Aug 24th, 2007 04:16:16 PM
Oh, look! Naked CG humans! Yeah, so fucking what? They still look like a bunch of zombies. Ratatouille is still winning the Oscar. Better luck next time, Bob.
i just used a fake name by Automation Overlord	Aug 24th, 2007 04:16:23 PM
john smith, 90210 feb 28 1981...that got me in
I don't think this looks that good. by Gwai Lo	Aug 24th, 2007 04:16:28 PM
I was underwhelmed by that theatrical trailer. And I was one of the few that thought "Beowulf and Grendel" starring Gerard Butler was great.
George Bush, ZipCode: 20500, DOB: 07/06/46 by supersize	Aug 24th, 2007 04:20:41 PM
Always works
For those of you without zip codes. Use it. by Kurzinski Valentine	Aug 24th, 2007 04:20:45 PM
George Bush 20500 07/06/46
"I have submitted against government-issued ID." by The Dum Guy	Aug 24th, 2007 04:22:52 PM
What the fuck does that mean? I tried using a fake name, but it wouldn't let me view it, so I put in my neighbors name and birthdate.... Did I just break some kinda new law?
Theatrical Trailer by phoenixmagi	Aug 24th, 2007 04:24:42 PM
was very underwhelming. and it doesn't look cg. in the theater it looked like a live action movie. so why not make it live action. no 'ohh' or 'ahhs' from the audience. looked like a boring fantasy movie.
That looked pretty awful. by Kurzinski Valentine	Aug 24th, 2007 04:25:20 PM
Looks like a video game cutscene from like 5 years ago. The blood/liquids look really terrible. Like big globular splashes of jelly. Lame.
"TITAN A.E." by godoffireinhell	Aug 24th, 2007 04:26:00 PM
Do I need to remind you? This will bomb. Leave "adult animation" to the Japanese.
Gain access NOW! by Michael Bayowulf	Aug 24th, 2007 04:29:05 PM
Hi AIC, long time first time. My name IS Michael Bayowulf, but I also go by Daniel Glickman. And you can too. Someone really doesnt want people to access these restricted trailer sites, or at least people who aren't public figures. Glickman is Chairman for the MPAA, enter his information- Daniel Glickman 20016 11/24/44 -and voila! Access granted. Another small victory for anonymity.
Grendel looks like ass by JimBobCooter	Aug 24th, 2007 04:31:28 PM
That is laughably bad. Seriously.
Why animate it so the actors show LESS emotion? by butnugget	Aug 24th, 2007 04:31:47 PM
don't understand.
Jesus, Harry! by Jack Colby	Aug 24th, 2007 04:40:13 PM
"top notch animated Superhero tale"... didn't you watch Batman, Superman, Justice League, etc??? Or did you mean to say mainstream feature film instead of "tale"?
NAILED IT! by FlipTheFrog	Aug 24th, 2007 04:41:20 PM
It's exactly like the wax museum! Astounding!
Frame-By-Frame the guy who falls on the sword by Kurzinski Valentine	Aug 24th, 2007 05:00:36 PM
The blade hits him in his middle, and slides up his back, yet doesn't 'tear' upwards. It just slides right through the 3D geo. That's a pretty glaring mistake for such a supposedly high-end production. Good lawd.
always kinda imagined Grendel lookin like Disneys BEAST by George Newman	Aug 24th, 2007 05:02:28 PM
with the cape and bows and everything. But really;. I wanted a hairy, horn-headed guy. Not some Ghoulish burn victim
Jack Colby by HEADGEEK	Aug 24th, 2007 05:03:39 PM
As much as I love the Batman, Superman and Justice League animated series - they always show the limitations of their budgets. I'm talking top notch animation that blows away what we've seen in Disney theatrical. And in the CG - MoCap world they have the capacity to bring Alex Ross style art to life. That's what I've been dreaming of.
Thanks Harry by boyblue	Aug 24th, 2007 05:11:24 PM
its good to see some type comment from oone of you guys on this JLA thing. Mo Cap CGI feels feels right if they wanna make it now. If its live action its gonna spoil the Singer and Nolan pics for us geeks and confuse the hell out of non geeks, imo.
im posting usingmy Wii by boyblue	Aug 24th, 2007 05:14:47 PM
Sorry if i spell shit wrong or ruin my word spacing in my posts, this shits tricky!!
The sad thing is... by Bloody Jay	Aug 24th, 2007 05:17:01 PM
... this probably would have been good as live action.
george bush's info worked! by reckni	Aug 24th, 2007 05:20:10 PM
Alas, mine did not. Movie looks alright, I'll probably check it out.
CG Alex Ross... by Darth_Inedible	Aug 24th, 2007 05:20:56 PM
Trying to do a "CG Alex Ross film" using the Zemeckis Corpsemation™ technique would be fucking atrocious. It would be the equivalent of some talentless douche making an "Alex Ross comic" by tracing and painting over photos of his friends dressed up as Superman and Batman.
For a redband trailer by QuinnTheEskimo	Aug 24th, 2007 05:22:30 PM
There isn't a whole lot here. Like two bloody shots and the side of Jolie's ass. Scandalous! What's the point of a Redband trailer if you aren't going to show something worth the red band. The No Country redband trailer has a man getting shot through the head with compressed air. This has CGI ass. Um...
That's it for Gaiman by Bluereader	Aug 24th, 2007 05:25:55 PM
I'm a pretty big fan of Gaiman's books, but his film work so far leaves me cold and from what I see of Beowulf, Gaiman won't be making any more films. Mirrormask and Stardust have bombed and so will Beowulf - it lacks that guts that 300 has. I agree with the other TB's that it looks like a video game.
Wow Please tell me that is unfinished footage. by BMacSmith	Aug 24th, 2007 05:32:56 PM
Has Mo-cap not improved one bit since Final Fantasy?? that looks embarrassing.
Who the hell designed Grendel? by BMacSmith	Aug 24th, 2007 05:34:05 PM
A GIANT ZOMBIE with rubber arms? its terrible. and the dragon looked even worse.
Darth_Indelible by Batutta	Aug 24th, 2007 05:42:49 PM
Watch the CG cutscenes in Marvel Ultimate Alliance on an XBOX 360 in HD to see what Harry is talking about.
KEVIN SMITH IS DIRECTING BSG by Razorback	Aug 24th, 2007 05:43:58 PM
How come AOL got this scoop before AICN?
Same trailer as on Apple? by drumore	Aug 24th, 2007 05:49:48 PM
Was that any different from this: http://www.apple.com/trailers/ paramount/beowulf/
So why does that have to be computer animated? by Gozu	Aug 24th, 2007 05:52:19 PM
It's one thing to have computer animated monsters but Robert Zemeckis couldn't find a cave that looked "just right?" Ray Winstone just didn't have the right look, even though the guy looks more like a viking in real life than that CGI He-Man wannabe? It would be one thing if my mind was getting blown with every shot and the whole time I was thinking, "They could never do this in real life," but no, this looks like an 80's "Conan" knock-off given a slight "Lord of the Rings" face-lift. The only thing that even gives me some small tidbit of hope is Neil Gaiman, although he's had his share of misses as well. Finally, I was excited at the prospect of George Miller doing a LIVE ACTION "JLA" movie, not this mo-cap nonsense. It's like they found the one thing that didn't need to be computer animated (actors) and decided to fix what wasn't broken. The other insidious part of this whole affair is that actors like Anthony Hopkins and Angelina Jolie now can play the same roles until the day they die and still look essentially the same.
Marvel Ultimate Alliance by Batutta	Aug 24th, 2007 06:10:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FAQwpzkxp_4
Kingdom Come CG mo-cap film by Rindain	Aug 24th, 2007 06:24:57 PM
That is what the justice league movie should be. At the very least have Alex Ross involved in the JLA film in some way.
I'll go see this by GreatCzarsGhost	Aug 24th, 2007 06:31:22 PM
There are a lot of different types of animation and this just one of them. The story is wonderful and this animation makes it look more like a story book telling which is what it is.
I still think this film could be awesome, but... by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Aug 24th, 2007 06:41:48 PM
The trailers are fucking dire and the 28 days later music is wrong wrong wrong for this film, slap some Poledouris on there you fucking morons.
MO cAp sucks and so does this by arrangedletters	Aug 24th, 2007 06:45:05 PM
Just saying
I hate MoCap by Blue Meanie 1138	Aug 24th, 2007 06:53:37 PM
It always looks like a video game to me. Give me live actors any day of the week.
THANK YOU HARRY! by Abin Sur	Aug 24th, 2007 06:54:20 PM
I've been fussing over the lack of any JLA news for the past couple of days. MoCap would give us the worlds we've always envisioned our heroes in - and I know that the movie is supposedly about the OMACs, but if anyone has read Alex Ross' 12-issue "Justice" series - THAT is the movie that should be made - HANDS DOWN.
I'm not a fan of Mo-Cap... by Vamp-AICNchat	Aug 24th, 2007 07:14:45 PM
...but to be fair it's early early days of Mo-Cap. I really respect Zemeckis for taking on the technology, he's got the balls. I'm not a fan of Mo-Cap at the moment, but like I said - it's early days. In the future Mo-Cap will be great. I can remember the first computer animation I ever seen, it was shown before HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS and I thought that sucked at the time. Hey, I was only 8 though. Look now at all the amazing stuff Pixar are doing, in the end Mo-Cap will be great. If i'm honest I was looking forward to BEOWULF, i'm not looking forward to it as much anymore, i'll still see it though because Zemeckis is one of my favourite directors and he's never ever disappointed me.
cutting edge cinema by the_man_from_Rio	Aug 24th, 2007 07:15:03 PM
leave to to zemeckis to always push the boundaries of special effects in filmmaking, can't wait to see the shots and sequences he comes up with for this film. damn, can't wait for this...and "there will be blood" and "no country for old men" although i haven't seen the new trailer announced on this site yet...
Pushing technology is only good if it advances art by Blue Meanie 1138	Aug 24th, 2007 07:38:41 PM
And I don't see what the point of MoCap is right now. What is it advancing? It's only reason seems to be replacing actors, which, to me, sounds like the dumbest idea in the world. CGI has its place in imagining things that stop motion couldn't accomplish. Technicolor, Dolby digital...any technology you can think of...if it has endured, then its advanced the art. Things like 3D and Smell O Vision were gimmicks, which seems to be what MoCap is at the moment. It's not something you need...unless you're a filmmaker who just hates working with actors. But for my money, ONCE proves that there's nothing more emotional than two actors inhabiting their characters. And it proves you don't need all those bells and whistles to be the best damn film of the year.
Looking good by Rindain	Aug 24th, 2007 07:45:49 PM
The extra bits definitely make this trailer 10 times better than the last one.
Do I still have to pay taxes if I'm not recognized? by Piltdown Joey	Aug 24th, 2007 07:50:51 PM
?
Poor Zemeckis by geraldbeans	Aug 24th, 2007 07:56:32 PM
That he's had to resort to this. Asking Harry to put a positive spin on this disaster of a movie. I know that everyone rips on Harry for selling out to the studios. I don't think it's nearly as intricate as some would like to think. But it's impossible for Harry to have befriended some of the most influential people in Hollywood and not be affected when he reports on them. I think this story is a perfect example. There is not one thing about this trailer/movie/production that has anything going for it. It's bland, it's boring, it's the anti "must see". And for them to beg Harry (or nudge him - whatever they did) to come on here and say a few positive things about the movie just to reserve some of the disastorous buzz is a pretty desperate move. But as most people who have read this site for a long time know, Harry will give you a few hints that he's not really telling the truth (read his review for "King Kong" to educate yourself on how he makes a movie that he only found okay sound like the greatest movie ever). The way he describes how when it was over he wanted to see more has the ring of someone desperately trying to find anything positive to say. I mean come on. I can name ten video game cutscenes better than this trailer. Please ditch this whole motion-capture thing. It's worthless and adds nothing to the experience. This movie is DOA.
Its Not A Dragon ....Its A FIREDRAKE!! by skoobyx	Aug 24th, 2007 08:09:05 PM
Of course this may not conform to the Seamus Heaney translation from English 205 that I had to write a paper on.
I'm interested in seeing this, even if it looks like by SoylentMean	Aug 24th, 2007 08:10:57 PM
a video game. I really think they made a big mistake in trying to stick to likenesses of the actors. It's immediately distracting. I loved Monster House so much because it was a big hearted, Halloween themed, CARTOON. If you're gonna go to all the trouble of making the characters look exactly like they do in real life here's a fuckin' thought, use a goddamn camera!!!! I'm still gonna probably end up seeing this, even though it looks like an overlong cut scene from a video game (yes, I know I'm not the first person to say that, probably won't be the last). All I'm saying is I was way more stoked to see this until I actually saw the trailer. By the way, any rumors on the rating for this "film"?
supersize by Jaka	Aug 24th, 2007 08:26:19 PM
BRILLIANT! I was pissed for a second. lol
Huh? by Wrecks	Aug 24th, 2007 08:30:55 PM
This is the same trailer that hit a montha ago on apple... what's new?
Mo-cap has been around for years! by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Aug 24th, 2007 08:38:10 PM
It's nothing new but it is just being employed in a much larger scale by Zemeckis. The thing that erks me is the whole photorealismn thing. Why couldnt the film have been more stylised and animated by hand? Save mocap for photoreal effects in live action, keep animation animated!
Mo-cap, CGI Alex Ross film? Are you insane??? by Nosferatu Jones	Aug 24th, 2007 09:07:36 PM
Do you know how lousy that will look? Yeah, maybe, MAYBE they'll be able to get the "style" of Alex Ross down, but they'll still MOVE AND ACT LIKE ZOMBIES. There's a reason why a CGI film like THE INCREDIBLES was so successful and why the FINAL FANTASY film was a wash: FINAL FANTASY (and also THE POLAR EXPRESS) try WAY TOO HARD to be as "realistic" as possible. In the end, because mo-cap/CGI/whatever is still so imperfect, the result is still too creepy and leaves one with a sense of "Why bother?" Whereas Brad Bird and Pixar made the correct move of making the humans in THE INCREDIBLES highly stylized, so that they were easier to believe. Say what you will about TOY STORY, FINDING NEMO and MONSTERS INC.--the humans still look like ass because they were trying too hard for realism. The other point is, in an era of STAR WARS prequels and SIN CITY, why not just drop REAL actors into an all-CGI world? What good reason is there for making ALL the humans motion-capture? Yeah, maybe THE POLAR EXPRESS has been a success, but I'm willing to bet the farm that that's only because 1) it's been on IMAX screens and 2) it's a Christmas movie. No one seems to like those creepy kids from Zombietown. One only need look to THE LORDS OF THE RINGS trilogy to see that a perfect blend of actors, CGI and modelwork can still exist and work. This BEOWULF nonsense is a fucking bunch of crap and totally unneccessary. There. That feels better.
Sorry ... by JamieCOTC95	Aug 24th, 2007 09:14:26 PM
What is the point of Mo-Cap? Is it to make a movie look like a video game? If that's the point, then this thing looks great.
Government ID ????????!!!!!!!! by pencil-man	Aug 24th, 2007 09:35:01 PM
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT ????? !!!!!
Now HERE"s an idea that will work: Make ALL zombies... by Nosferatu Jones	Aug 24th, 2007 09:49:31 PM
...CGI or mo-cap in any and all zombie flicks from now on. Think about it: Save a bunch of time, effort and money on extras and make-up; all CGI "zombies" will act in a more consistent nature and you wouldn't have some doofus extra trying to hog the camera with his "zombie schtick"; and use of CGI/mo-cap which will allow you to be more inventive and actually PLAY to the technology's greatest weakness--rendering any and all humans as dead and lifeless as possible. Why they haven't used this for most modern-day zombie flicks is beyond me. It's perfect! Now just STOP trying to convince us that it's JUST GREAT for replacing flesh-and-blood actors, Bobby Z! You fuckin' numbskull.
Harry choses a JLA pitch over Beowulf, & here's why... by justmyluck	Aug 24th, 2007 09:50:06 PM
Beowulf's character design looks bland. He's Blandwulf. Or Beobland. This 3D Beowulf is aiming for animated literature, and needs after-school foul grit and nastiness. If a CGI 'Den' feature gets made with bouncing boobs and flopping wieners galore, I am there. Unless they mo-cap Harry's manboobs to save money.
alex ross is overrated by darwinwins	Aug 24th, 2007 10:07:37 PM
if you really look at his work, it's not exactly impressive. it's good and even excellent but his artwork isn't exceptional. his work is different but it's not intellectually engaging and his range is limited. it makes me sad. james jean on the other hand -- to see his work in animated form would be phenomenal.
The thing about growning up is about not watching carto by GQtaste	Aug 24th, 2007 10:12:57 PM
cartoons anymore. That's great thinking. Make a grown up movie but make it a cartoon instead of for kids.
Jolie sounds just like she did in Alexander. by GQtaste	Aug 24th, 2007 10:19:02 PM
Same voice.
Um, yeah, the age thing is NOT working by KCMOSHer	Aug 24th, 2007 11:10:11 PM
So the point is to restrict youngsters, yes? I plug in my own, real, 37yo info. Denied. I plug in John Smith, some random date in 1981, and 90210...and I'm in. Same thing happened last night with that Coen Bros flick. Hey movie web guys, your coding is for shit. Hire some real QA people or just drop the bullshit bogus age verification.
still looks odd, i bet AVATAR will look a lot better by pipergates	Aug 24th, 2007 11:16:00 PM
Cameron wont emerge from seclusion with his strange brew until its good and potent.
I want to see it. by TattooedBillionaire	Aug 24th, 2007 11:19:29 PM
Beowulf was a hell of a read.
Jolie is seriously channeling 'Alexander' here by Vi	Aug 24th, 2007 11:36:30 PM
She's still an actress I'd watch, but this voice over smacks of 'Alexander'.
wish Jolie wasn't in it... by Judge Briggs	Aug 24th, 2007 11:50:03 PM
c'mon, you know she is getting really annoying
Stiffy. by i kick tits	Aug 25th, 2007 12:09:20 AM
CGI has a long way to go.
TEH GOVERMINT by pencil-man	Aug 25th, 2007 01:40:44 AM
WHY ARE NONE OF YOU CHUMPS CONCERED THAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO KNOW ALL OF YOUR VITALS JUST TO WATCH A DUMBASS TRAILER FOR A DUMBASS MOVIE, TELL ME.
I'll have none of this privacy invasion, and.... by Cletus Van Damme	Aug 25th, 2007 01:57:59 AM
...we all need to stand together on this, or it'll all be this way soon...and not just with movie trailers. You know it and I know it.
Final Fantasy: Spirits Within by Mr Spork	Aug 25th, 2007 02:25:08 AM
The CGI was good but the plot was incomprehensible. When it was over, I didn't understand what I had just watched.
I say again: Meh... by Bald Evil	Aug 25th, 2007 02:34:55 AM
It still looks too cut-sceney to me. You'd think they'd know by now the all-important lesson of CG animation: don't show a frame of it until it is 100% completed. And if this IS the final product, then this movie is probably gonna fall on its face. I am a huge Beowulf fan, but they've got me on the fence enough as it is with the "Grendelmilf" story tacked on. If this is the best motion capture animation they could manage, they shouldn't have bothered.
JLA Movie by Bald Evil	Aug 25th, 2007 02:38:02 AM
If they want to knock JLA out of the park, here are the two names they need on board: Brad Bird and Alex Ross. Whether it was 2D, CG, or motion capture, that combination of talent would bring it hom.
It'll make money, but probably not untill DVD by DirkD13"	Aug 25th, 2007 03:05:34 AM
I just can't help but feel that people are just not that excited about this film. I think it would be alot more appealing to adults if it was live-action.
Looks much better than the first one by 300spartansinhell	Aug 25th, 2007 03:55:40 AM
They should have showed more action shots from the beginning. Like someone already said, the trailer isn´t that great but I think the film in 3d will be a big step in the right direction. Grendel looks awesome and so does the dragon. The only thing I wish they had done different is the art direction of the characters themeselves. They look too uninspired, can´t find a better word. I´m not talking about the quality of the animation or how realistic the eyes and lips look but how they were designed and dressed. Take Beowulf, he shouldn´t wear roman-looking clothes.
There is just not enough detail by 300spartansinhell	Aug 25th, 2007 04:04:05 AM
Saw it again and it looks just too clean, not medieval enough. Just look at that cave. At least I hope that Beowulf and Jolie have some nice cgi fucking before he kills her, not just a little kiss. I might forgive Zemeckis the lack of detail if he turns up the maturity level.
its still looks like shit by DigitalDong	Aug 25th, 2007 07:38:33 AM
And FUCK Alex Ross, I seen better stuff in the scraps section at DeviantART. Luckily we already have a movie based on a great fantasy artists work. Fire and Ice ftw.
Password? Identify this? Verify that?? by Yeti	Aug 25th, 2007 08:41:19 AM
I think not. Pffffffffffffffffft.
Thank you KCMOSHer by Piltdown Joey	Aug 25th, 2007 09:06:11 AM
Yep, your little plan worked. I tried the same thing with Ronald Reagan's info and used his DC Zip Code, his Cali Zip Code, and his birthplace's Zip Code and nothing. Apparently you, Ronald Reagan, and I don't exist. Silly.
Peter Jackson's Aenied by LORDRANDO	Aug 25th, 2007 09:23:44 AM
Lets take the oldest form of narrative story, the epic poem and combine it withe the newest, cgi, it cant miss!!! How do these people have jobs? Zemeckis is like 2 for 20, BTF and Cast Away being the best, so why is he Spielberg all of a sudden?
why even bother with the ID? by half vader	Aug 25th, 2007 09:36:27 AM
the 720p one doesn't ask you for anything. As for the "liquid" it's not like it's supposed to be water or anything. She's using magic or whatever to dissolve the sword he stabbed her with in the other shot.
Blue Meanie by half vader	Aug 25th, 2007 09:50:17 AM
I agree about mocap & 3d being used to accomplish what can't be done with live-action or stop-motion and so-on, and that this looks redundant SO-FAR (to be fair we've seen what 90 seconds?), especially with the mimicing the real actors' looks, but you seem to say the majority of mocap is useless and not being used for what it was designed for. In actuality it's just the majority of Zemekis' films lately. Even if you hate both films, King Kong and Happy Feet used mocap for all the right reasons, and both supplemented the mocap with a lot of keyframed stuff. But both films couldn't have been done with keyframing alone, or conversely couldn't have been completely motion-captured. Also, Gollum, while he was a human-like character, was impossible to pull off without making many sacrifices if done with traditional methods. The stylised face wouldn't have worked and he's impossibly skinny. Like Rick Baker says, you can add, but you can't take away. So maybe the track record isn't quite so bad in these early days. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here because we've only seen a few seconds, but it does seem ridiculous at this point.
And this was restricted... by cornponious	Aug 25th, 2007 10:04:49 AM
...WHY??
It was restricted because... by Bob of the Shire	Aug 25th, 2007 11:07:02 AM
Ass and tits at the end. And because it's uncanny valley CG, it's not arousing at all. That's the real feat Zemeckis pulled off, making a nude Angelina Jolie un-bonerific.
Timm and Ross are friends, by Dingbatty	Aug 25th, 2007 11:45:02 AM
but I'd rather see Timm's stylized stuff on the screen, not Ross's stiff, photorealistic drawings of his fugly friends dressed as DC heroes.
Certified Bomb by chi3fhog	Aug 25th, 2007 11:59:00 AM
You know it.
Why is this restricted? by Wormie	Aug 25th, 2007 12:36:57 PM
Why can I freely see hardcore porn on the net, but I have to be verified by the US government to watch a trailer for a big-budget Hollywood movie? Oh, and AICN dudes, find out the real story on JLA/Superman instead of posting old news, thanks!
I'm still not sold. by a goonie	Aug 25th, 2007 01:06:37 PM
After watching that trailer, I remain very skeptical about this project. I remember hearing some stuff based on early images that this mo-cap work was going to be pretty mind-blowing. But all I see are more glass-eyed creations that resemble decent actors. I think mo-cap work can be extremely effective when used in the right places (Gollum, Kong), but an entire cast of characters brought to life with mo-cap still signals a complete disregard for the job an actor is hired to do, if you ask me. The Anthony Hopkins character looks like a shoddy CG creation pretending to be Anthony Hopkins. It's distracting and annoying to watch. A big-budget Beowulf flick with live actors on the screen and a mo-cap Grendel would have been a cool idea. But the entire movie done in mo-cap is too much for me, personally. I hated The Polar Express and I see very little in the various trailers for this movie that makes me think this will be some great improvement. Plus, I fucking hate the Grendel design. When I read a translation of Beowulf many, many years ago, I thought how cool it would be to see a bad-ass version of Grendel brought to life on the big screen. This piece of shit creature looks like an oversized Gollum. I'd like this movie to work, but I remain worried and unconvinced.
90 minutes of video game cutscenes? I'll take Bioshock by Flip63Hole	Aug 25th, 2007 01:21:29 PM
thank you...
I doubt that is the finished product. by darquelyte	Aug 25th, 2007 01:23:01 PM
The CGI is probably still being "tweaked" as we speak. I've seen some amazing CGI lately, especially liquids like water that look like the HD version of Planet Earth from Discovery channel. I hope they've seen some amazing CGI lately too and make there's as good if not better, because what they have so far is still too CGI-ish, and not realistic.
Here's what I think will take MoCap to work: by Vi	Aug 25th, 2007 01:50:47 PM
Blinking. I am completely serious. They need to put a sensor on the actors' EYELIDS as well as their other features. The right about of blinking and at the correct moments actually sells a performance on screen as truth. Anyone else agree? That's ONE thing right there that could help get us past the uncanny valley.
Vi: Also, eyeballs. by Nosferatu Jones	Aug 25th, 2007 04:55:32 PM
Eyeballs themselves still seem oddly flat, and not 3-dimensional and/or lifelike in any way. They don't seem like round orbs... just painted on.
a great source of American names and birthdays is IMDB by BRUTICUS	Aug 25th, 2007 05:43:12 PM
i put a random actors name and birthday in there with a fake zip and it worked
English epic? I thought this was a viking tale. by J-Dizzle	Aug 25th, 2007 09:15:19 PM
Am I wrong?
The horses galloping looks horrible!!! by Orionsangels	Aug 25th, 2007 09:18:16 PM
Too cartoony. I guess they couldn't afford to motion capture horses like WETA did on LOTR. So they animated them by hand. The end result is bad. The people themselves have a creepy quality to them and that's what'll hurt this film, like most CGI movies. You're distracted by the visuals and never real get into the story.
It DOES look creepy, and... by TheGhostWhoLurks	Aug 26th, 2007 01:37:28 AM
You don't have to put it your real name and info. This isn't the government, it's just Zemenkis being an idiot. Put in a fake name and DOB. If it doesn't work the first time, it will the 2nd or 3rd. I'm certainly not going to provide my REAL name and DOB to some website just because they tell me to.
Rubbish. by Sepulchrave	Aug 26th, 2007 03:28:07 AM
The oldest tale, done in the gimmickiest way possible, flat, dramatically insipid shite. And Roger Avary is a BAD writer. BAD. Not good. BAD. Fuck this. Really. Even Coraline deserved live action, not this expensive toyshow for half-blind Word of Warcraft eunuchs.
Should've been live action... by CaptainStank	Aug 26th, 2007 03:38:41 AM
I mean they're filming all the actors on greenscreens anyway - why not just go the LOTR route and make it cool!? The CG characters look way too weird! Angelina still looks hot though! Screencaps at http://tinyurl.com/2belrb
Still not quite there... by kendragon	Aug 26th, 2007 07:39:24 AM
i cant imagine being able to enjoy this film without being constantly reminded that is CG... the variances in the quality of the Virtual Actors will destroy any chances you have in suspending belief throughout the story. That was a major problem in both the Final Fantasy movie and the Polar Express and If the trailer for this is anything to go by then its a problem they havent remedied. I do understand what zemeckes is trying to acheive though... with each subsequent movie the quality does improve and in maybe five or six years time it maybe possible to produce entirely flawless movies that will not need expensive actors at all and only voice actors to achieve the same results at a fraction of the price of hiring Will Smith etc. I wonder if the actors and actresses who contribute to these movies are aware that they maybe selling out their own future acting careers... LOL
Its About Vikings But Written In English J-Dizzle by skoobyx	Aug 26th, 2007 07:07:30 PM
That's probably what they mean. Its one of the earliest texts in Old English. Despite the Scandinavian origins its considered one the foundations of English literature. I got an A on my paper.
You have to be really old by BagSalad	Aug 26th, 2007 07:33:20 PM
to think this looks any good. Please stop making these awkward, goofy motion capture movies. This movie might be interesting as a brilliantly computer enhanced animated 2D, remember where things were going with Disney in the early 90's? This kind of animation is just stupid looking.
Are you kidding me? by dragon-lord	Aug 26th, 2007 08:48:17 PM
This looks like a bad game video from LAST decade. How utterly lame.
Disaster, major disappointment by AntoniusBloc	Aug 28th, 2007 05:18:49 AM
What happened to Zemeckis? This is sad, this movie should not even be released, the teasers look like a joke, and the description as low quality video game graphics for today's standards is no exaggeration...along with the ridiculous plot changes, I have completely given up on this film, maybe i'll watch it on dvd since i probably won't have to wait very long before it's on the $3.50 rack at Wal Mart, $2.75 for the full screen version. What is sad is the opportunity missed, and I don't understand the point of making this pure CGI, nothing in the teasers conveys the tone or atmosphere I imagine when reading Beowulf...I got more of that sense in portions of certain scenes in THE FOUNTAIN when Jackman's character is fighting his way toward the tree of life, or scenes from Aliens, and even the Exorcist when Father Lankester Merrin and the suspense when he and others must face the demon....Beowulf is supposed to be full of suspense and terror, the enemy made so terrifying that the audience would feel fear for the hero that has to face it...if they couldn't get the mythological aspects right at the very least they should have erred on the side of practically being a horror film....this reminds me of Ralph Bakshi and the old failed experiment with rotoscope animation.

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