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James Mangold sucks
by Garbageman33
Aug 24th, 2007
11:32:43 AM
I wish they'd switched directors and given this material to the guy who did The Assassination of Jesse James.
But Crowe and Bale rock!
by Coled Slawter
Aug 24th, 2007
11:35:53 AM
So hopefully they will save it... But I hated that Liam/Brosnan excuse for a supposed Western. Was even a western? Whatever it was I hope this is as refreshing to the Western genre as Open Range was.
If there's a message to the movie
by Garbageman33
Aug 24th, 2007
11:37:06 AM
You can bet Mangold will repeatedly beat you over the head with it.
First!
by bobster52
Aug 24th, 2007
11:37:09 AM
I'll see it. I liked the original
Not first!
by bobster52
Aug 24th, 2007
11:37:50 AM
Who cares anyway!
mira
by Quint
Aug 24th, 2007
11:55:00 AM
I think the line that made me understand why Ben Wade doesn't do more to get away, especially at the end, is from Wade himself... when he tells Dan that this isn't the first time he's been to Yuma and had escaped something like 3 times before. Him going to Yuma wasn't any worse than him being held by Byron and the Railroad, so that explains why he goes out of his way to save Dan's life, especially when you consider the respect Wade has for him throughout the whole film. That's what I thought, anyway.
Has anyone ever seen James Mangold and Edward Zwick
by Garbageman33
Aug 24th, 2007
11:55:18 AM
In the same room at the same time? I'm convinced they're the same guy.
I'll see anything with Christian Bale in it
by Charlie Murphy
Aug 24th, 2007
11:58:22 AM
the man is ridiculously underrated. sure, he's fairly high profile now, what with being batman and all, but if you asked a hundred people what the best actor working today is, i bet not many people say christian bale. but they should. this cat can make any role kick ass. equilibrium, american psycho, the machinist, of course batman, the prestige, rescue dawn... christian bale is the shit.
Quint, do you not have MiraJeff's email address?
by Garbageman33
Aug 24th, 2007
11:58:50 AM
Or did you think the rest of us wanted to know a major plot point?
Walk the Line is garbage
by Stuntcock Mike
Aug 24th, 2007
12:00:13 PM
Hopefully this makes up for it.
garbage
by Quint
Aug 24th, 2007
12:03:13 PM
The story has a spoiler box on it and Mira discusses the end in his review. You got a couple different warnings, don't know what else to tell ya'.
Impulse
by Quint
Aug 24th, 2007
12:05:13 PM
Read above.
Was Ed Zwick the director of The Last Samurai?
by Charlie Murphy
Aug 24th, 2007
12:06:30 PM
it's the only movie i enjoy starring tom cruise, although that movie would have been ten times better without tom cruise. also, despite some neat story ideas, the love sub plot involving cruise and the chinese broad was pretty laughable and i think it's almost a giant middle finger in the face of japanese people to have tom fucking cruise be the "last samurai" standing at the end of the big battle. still, there's some neat images and some cool ideas in it, that almost kinda sorta makes up for the movie shamelessly being oscar bait. bottom line, the last samurai would've been a much better movie with a different cast and a different director.
Quint
by Garbageman33
Aug 24th, 2007
12:06:40 PM
The plot point you reveal is a heck of a lot more explicit than anything in MiraJeff's review. He suggests things. You come right out and say them. And at the top of his review he mentions "minor spoilers". Not "I'm gonna give away the end of the movie".
garbage
by Quint
Aug 24th, 2007
12:10:53 PM
If you think I've spoiled the end of the movie then you're wrong. I'm talking about the big shoot-out scene and Ben Wade's motivations, as discussed in Mira's review, nothing more. You'll understand when you see the movie.
I appreciate the long review
by mprose
Aug 24th, 2007
12:17:38 PM
The more I read about this film, the more I like it. I just wish I've seen any of James Mangold's films so I could understand the hate towards him. Were not Cop Land and Girl, Interrupted two much talked-about movies?

Regardless, of his history, I'll be catching this and The Assassination of Jesse James. HERE'S TO THE RETURN OF THE AMERICAN WESTERN!

I stood up against the tyranny of Michael Bay
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 24th, 2007
12:19:16 PM
That's what I'll tell my children.
Edward Zwick also directed Blood Diamond
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 24th, 2007
12:20:12 PM
If you haven't seen it, you must. Fantastic movie.
I loved The Last Samurai but hated that Tom lived
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 24th, 2007
12:20:59 PM
at the end. He should've died with Watanabe, but still, he had a great line at the end.
This is where we part ways BSB
by Garbageman33
Aug 24th, 2007
12:26:12 PM
I hated Blood Diamond. In fact, here's my entire plot summary. Preachy scene. Action scene. Repeat ad nauseum.
The music in Walk the Line was great!
by Uncapie
Aug 24th, 2007
12:27:27 PM
And if you don't think so, may the ghosts of Johnny Cash and June Carter kick your ass!
Garbage - I agree to a certain extent, as it is a Zwick
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 24th, 2007
12:30:28 PM
pic. That's his thing. But the subject matter was very powerful, and Djimon Honsou was great, as was DiCaprio.
lol
by mprose
Aug 24th, 2007
12:30:43 PM
Yeah they're obviously rolling around in movie-geek dough. How many space-ferrari's are you driving these days, Quint? /sarcasm
Walk The Line rocked
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 24th, 2007
12:34:22 PM
BTW that was an excellent review, Mirajeff.
Zwick's best film was...
by Fat Chooch
Aug 24th, 2007
12:49:44 PM
... the made-for-TV "Special Bulletin." He's done nothing since that's been anywhere close to being that engaging.
Tom Cruise is : The Last Nazi
by Stuntcock Mike
Aug 24th, 2007
01:17:44 PM
Should be better than Superman Returns.
Excellent Review
by dancinggopher01
Aug 24th, 2007
01:57:28 PM
Definitely made me want to see it more than I already did. Bale is in the top five actors working today.
Gary Oldman
by King Sweyn Forkbeard
Aug 24th, 2007
03:32:32 PM
Is the best actor working today, although Bale and Crowe are definitely top ten.
Edward Zwick directed Glory, as well.
by Imagikafan
Aug 24th, 2007
03:38:19 PM
It's an outstanding movie.
SoylentMean
by Freakemovie
Aug 24th, 2007
05:46:02 PM
dude, I was planning on stepping in a cow pie tonight and now you've ruined it for me. Bastard.
Charlie: RE: The Last Samurai
by CondomWrapper
Aug 24th, 2007
06:20:10 PM
My interpretation of the ending is that Ken Wantanabe is the last samurai, not Tom Cruise. Cruise wasn't a real samurai.
Condom, it's been awhile since i saw it
by Charlie Murphy
Aug 24th, 2007
10:06:03 PM
but i think the film's POINT was to show these samurais accepting this white dude, and the whole film building to this final battle where these guys fight for what the believe in, no longer giving a fuck if tom cruise is a real samurai or not. plus, when the movie poster and trailer say "tom cruise is... the last samurai" i think that's a dead giveaway to what what trying to get accomplished. this also reminds me of a hilarious chappelle's show "ask a black dude bit" where paul mooney goes "we've got brad pitt in 'the mexican', tom cruise in 'the last samurai'... what's next? tom hanks in 'the blackest mother fucker of all time'?" i thought that was funny.
Why the fuck was that so long?
by ImFixingtoDie
Aug 24th, 2007
11:52:56 PM
MiraJeff is definetly the worst reviewer you guys have.
CORRECTION
by The Real MiraJeff
Aug 25th, 2007
01:27:21 AM
Russell Crowe has one Oscar, and two other nominations. MiraJeff regrets the error. P.S.- I warned you it was long ImFixing, you could've skipped a couple paragraphs. Sometimes I overwrite. It's a flaw. Accept it. This isn't The New York Times. We can run a little long sometimes. That's the beauty of the Internet.
Last Samurai was a joke
by MC-909
Aug 25th, 2007
12:43:01 PM
And a bad one at that. Tom Cruise as a fucking Samurai? Please. That movie was nothing more than a white guy wanting to wear Samurai armor and swing a sword.

Studio: "Tom Cruise wants to play a Samurai. What excuse can we come up with for him to do that?"

Tom Cruise the fighter pilot. Tom Cruise the racecar driver. Tom Cruise the secret agent. Tom Cruise the Samurai. Okay Hollywood, if you say so. Fuck the Last Samurai (though Glory was the shit back in the day)

Why the fuck was your response so long?
by ImFixingtoDie
Aug 26th, 2007
06:20:23 AM
MiraJeff is the worst commenter you guys have.
It's not the length that bothered me...
by raw_bean
Aug 26th, 2007
02:59:51 PM
...it's the fact that half the 'review' is just you describing what happened! I ended up regretting how much like a synopsis it was getting and skimmed down until the Oscar talk where you actually started discussing the film's merits, rather than just laying out the plot beat by beat. That's the kind of thing some of the mouth-breathers who send stuff in do, not what I would expect from one of the primary site contributors.
my apologies
by The Real MiraJeff
Aug 26th, 2007
05:01:10 PM
There's a lot of synopsis b/c I wanted to give examples from the film. Anyone can write, Russell Crowe plays a bad-ass. But don't you wanna know what makes him a bad-ass? Don't you want some examples of his bad-assery. And really the synopsis only covers the first half of the film, to describe the circumstances the characters find themselves in and how they got there. Like I said, I know the review couldn't been shorter and less plot-centric but I wanted to illustrate the set-up and define the gravity of Dan's situation. A better writer could've done this in fewer words but alas, you guys are stuck with me. A lot of it has to do with how much notes I take during a film. The Eastern Promises review will be shorter, I promise.
above
by The Real MiraJeff
Aug 26th, 2007
07:09:04 PM
couldn't=could've
A positive and evocative review for EASTER PROMISES...
by ImFixingtoDie
Aug 26th, 2007
11:29:34 PM
and all is forgiven.
I love a good western...
by football
Aug 27th, 2007
03:29:56 AM
... and this looks like it could be the one. I'm not sure about the Jesse James bio as I'm convinced it's just another romantisized re-telling of James being a latter day Robin Hood, which he wasn't. If the Brad Pitt film was to show James as a white-supremacist bushwhacker targeting Unionists as well as institutions that benefited the Union in a manner akin to a terrorist then it might be worth seeing. Somehow I doubt it though. Anyway, at least Yuma looks like it's going to be good.
Why can there be only one good western?
by ImFixingtoDie
Aug 27th, 2007
07:27:36 AM
There used to be dozens of these every year and two or three of them were always very good.
lol @ mirajeff, accurate & high quality as ever
by Daddylonghead
Aug 27th, 2007
04:11:50 PM
what a sad fuckin clownshoe you are. "Almost as good as Clint Eastwood's directorial work in A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS."
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