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fiiiiiiiiiirst
by gudge
Aug 20th, 2007
03:15:47 PM
its all about HDDVD. Fuck you Sony
I hope Micheal Vick gets HDTV in jail...
by BadMrWonka
Aug 20th, 2007
03:18:02 PM
then he can watch in full clarity, all the pundits explain why he deserves to be there, the fucking bastard...
PLANT!!!!!!
by Loosejerk
Aug 20th, 2007
03:18:41 PM
Quint has chosen Blu-yay, here's why: He can look at Eli Roth's Huge Prosthetic Wang with FIVE TIMES the storage capacity!
Paramount has chosen HD-DVD and here's why...
by Doughboy
Aug 20th, 2007
03:19:15 PM
They were paid $150 million to drop Blu-ray. I hate Sony though, so props to Toshiba, Microsoft, and the whole HD-DVD team. Transformers available exclusively for HD-DVD this fall will sell a lot of players.
shut the fuck about hd-dvd and blu-ray, harry
by badcrumble
Aug 20th, 2007
03:19:32 PM
the format war is irritating and to see someone blatantly backing one format or the other and using an ostensibly community-based site to push it is sickening
Eat it, Blew-Gay!
by MaxTheSilent
Aug 20th, 2007
03:19:58 PM
HD-DVD uses better quality codecs, has far more advanced and user-friendly interactive features and is cheaper to make. And with Sony being evil and incompetent, do you really want THEM winning a next-gen HD war?
Shut up, fatass.
by El Scorcho
Aug 20th, 2007
03:20:24 PM
Fuck you and your sell-out nonsense. This crap really makes me angry.
I will wait...
by Philvis
Aug 20th, 2007
03:20:52 PM
Not for the winning format, but for the damn prices to be cheap enough for me. It took long enough for the DVD players to get below the $100 mark and the DVD's to be at $10-16. Give me a $150 HD player and a $15 HD DVD, and I am in like Flynn.
The fact that this doesn't include Spielberg films...
by El Scorcho
Aug 20th, 2007
03:22:21 PM
makes it a non-story.
BWAHAHA...suck it Blu Boys!
by Peter Franks
Aug 20th, 2007
03:23:07 PM
How you like the little HD-DVD engine that could now? Actually, since I own both a Blu-Ray player AND an HD-DVD player (and a nice little library of titles in both formats) I don't really care either way. But, it is funny as all hell to watch you little fanboy dumbasses get your panties all in a bunch over a format war. Isn't the whole idea supposed to be getting the films in their best possible light? The most glorious presentation and preservation of the movies we love. Isn't THAT what it's supposed to be all about? Who cares which format wins. If we're getting a steady stream of quality flicks in high def...we ALL win.
Not being able to rent Transformers or Shrek the Third
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 20th, 2007
03:23:49 PM
And add The Relic and Congo to that list of classics too!
Does this mean I can't watch Star Trek 4 on my PS-3?
by Pound Sand
Aug 20th, 2007
03:25:32 PM
Curses !
El Scorcho
by Doughboy
Aug 20th, 2007
03:27:37 PM
Transformers and Shrek the Third make it a story. Not to mention catalog titles like the Star Trek TV and film series, Braveheart, Titanic, Jack Ryan series, etc.
He didn't comment on the $150M
by doc420
Aug 20th, 2007
03:28:53 PM
Why didn't Rob Moore comment on the $150M Paramount recieved for backing HD-DVD?
Upconversion on PS3 = brilliance
by El Scorcho
Aug 20th, 2007
03:29:08 PM
Just to set the record straight. I know Harry previously claimed that PS3 didn't play regular DVDs and didn't upconvert them. It does and they look gorgeous.
Transformers & Shrek the Third???
by El Scorcho
Aug 20th, 2007
03:30:10 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Two of the very worst films of the summer. HD-DVD can have those two forever as far as I am concerned.
No Raiders of the Lost Ark on HDDVD...
by Blue_Demon
Aug 20th, 2007
03:30:42 PM
no sale.
Jack Ryan films
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 20th, 2007
03:33:05 PM
are already on Blu-Ray. Does this mean they're going to be pulled off the shelves? I don't own either format so I don't care at all, but it doesn't seem right for Paramount to just all of a sudden pull support for Blu-Ray. It seems like they'll be creating a lot of angry customers. But then again they have lost lots of money at the box office lately. I guess this possible HD-DVD pay off might just be what they need right now.
Lock67ca has chosen the original DVD format
by lock67ca
Aug 20th, 2007
03:34:23 PM
I say screw the format war! I'm more than happy with the DVD player and movies I've got. The movies look and sound great. So, I hope both new formats fail. Nobody asked for this stupid format war in the first place, and the studios clearly don't seem to give a rat's ass what the public wants. I really hope a lot of people start to feel the way I do, and we can all sit on the sidelines and watch the studios and these new formats crash and burn.
Doughboy...
by Vamp-AICNchat
Aug 20th, 2007
03:34:44 PM
...TITANIC was made by 20th Century Fox. So was BRAVEHEART for the matter.
Nicholas Cage chooses 8mm and here's why...
by Samuel Fulmer
Aug 20th, 2007
03:37:05 PM
or maybe not.
Proof that HD-DVD is losing this "format war"
by Head In A Box
Aug 20th, 2007
03:37:41 PM
Whenever Microsoft faces any kind of stiff competition, they just throw money at the problem, and they seem to think that will make it go away. Here's the full details from The Digitial Bits...

Well... the high-definition format war just got more confusing for consumers, and you can thank the hubris of the folks at Microsoft for it. Their HD-DVD format (because I'm sorry, can anyone really say it still belongs to Toshiba at this point?) badly needed a shot in the arm going into the holiday season, and just got it thanks to suitcases full of cash from the Microsoft camp. You ready for this? Here it is:

Microsoft has paid DreamWorks and Paramount so much money that they've decided to join Universal in the HD-DVD exclusive camp. No kidding.

None of the participants in this deal are willing to openly disclose just how MUCH money was exchanged, but the L.A. Weekly is reporting (based in part on a confidential report from media analysis firm Pali Research) that it was in the neighborhood of $50 million in "promotional considerations" for Paramount and $100 million for DreamWorks. I'm sure they're also getting lots of free or discounted VC-1 compression and HDi authoring services, along with prime placement on Xbox Live too. Is anyone else just disgusted by Microsoft's naked, shameless financial influence in this thing? That Hollywood is a greedy place should be obvious to all by now, if it wasn't already. The HD-DVD format can't win any other way than for Microsoft to PAY studios off to stay exclusive. And then they have the balls to claim the Blu-ray Disc camp is involved in antitrust violations. Wow.

I'll tell you, this doesn't change our opinion of the eventual outcome of the format war too much. HD-DVD is never going to win this thing. The best it can hope for at this rate, even with the paid involvment of Paramount and DreamWorks, is to stay in the game. But let's face it... if money has to be involved for HD-DVD to stay in the game, that says a lot right there. And while Paramount and DreamWorks will no doubt earn lots of scorn from the rest of the industry, and they'll each make a couple extra movies with Microsoft's money while their stockholders giggle with glee, eventually business realities will dictate that they'll change their tune again. Unless Microsoft pays them more money still. One wonders if Universal just got another paycheck too.

By the way, if anyone doubts that Microsoft's real reason for involving itself in all this is to slow the adoption of next-generation discs by confusing consumers with a continuing format war so their own Xbox Live service can continue to grow and dominate the movie and TV downloading market, you'd better think twice. Because you can bet that while they'll continue to play at supporting HD-DVD, lots of those brand, spanking new high-def transfers will end up on Xbox Live too and for a lot cheaper than the discs.
the invisible hand...
by I87D
Aug 20th, 2007
03:38:22 PM
I believe it was the great Adam Smith who obversved the power of the "invisible hand" in a free market economy. Unfortunately, the invisible hand here isn't consumer driven market forces (which are already pointing towards Blu-Ray), it's Microsoft -- a real invisible hand that is somehow escaping notice of all the major news outlets who are just reprinting a press release without any actual reporting.
The Digital Bits' bias is "proof?"
by The PimpDragon
Aug 20th, 2007
03:42:30 PM
I can't believe you'd take Bill Hunt's quote as "proof" of any one side winning/losing the format war! Hunt and his crew supported HD-DVD originally and, suddenly, they bash HD any chance they get and back Blu-Ray? Hmmm.... Everyone has a bias. It's what makes a free country so great. But don't take someone's biased posts for "proof." That's like calling an opinion piece by Michael Moore the "truth." It is, but as Obi-Wan told Luke, "from a certain point of view."
The main thing is this...
by The PimpDragon
Aug 20th, 2007
03:44:21 PM
Combined, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray sales make up 1 fucking percent of all DVD sales. So, take that for what you will! Pick whichever side you like, but right now VHS is outselling HD/BR discs combined!
whats the point in either format?
by kwisatzhaderach
Aug 20th, 2007
03:45:10 PM
DVD will do me fine, it's my last physical format. Digital download will be my next format.
whats the point in either format?
by kwisatzhaderach
Aug 20th, 2007
03:45:10 PM
DVD will do me fine, it's my last physical format. Digital download will be my next format.
whats the point in either format?
by kwisatzhaderach
Aug 20th, 2007
03:45:12 PM
DVD will do me fine, it's my last physical format. Digital download will be my next format.
ps -- titanic and braveheart
by I87D
Aug 20th, 2007
03:45:35 PM
for those getting confused on who owns the titles, they were both co-financed by 20th and Par, separating the distribution rights between regions and media. according to the IMBd, paramount released the US dvds of both, but that doesn't mean 20th doesn't have some say in the matter in as well... especially if they are making DVDs for release elsewhere in the world.
$150 million does the body good
by AlwaysThere
Aug 20th, 2007
03:51:00 PM
Or at least it makes your wallet fatter if you can be bought off to keep a once dying formats head above water. And a final thought, M$ has officially screwed both formats now. Their goal to guarantee a repeat of the SACD/DVD-Audio fight has been replicated here. Both formats will stay around been niche and M$ will gleefully push their Xbox Live VC1 movie rentals. Thanks a lot Microsoft.
Blu-Ray look good. HD DVD looks good.
by Andillformthehead
Aug 20th, 2007
03:51:47 PM
But guess what...DVD looks good. This is coming from someone who bought a blu-ray player. Sites like this really should back either format (i say "back" because I really don't remember any Sony Press releases).
Paramount Vs. Disney
by EddieBlake
Aug 20th, 2007
03:52:58 PM
However, I see no mention of Disney's announcement that they are releasing their stuff, Platinum Editions and new stuff on Blu-Ray. Disney is the giant and if any one studio can determine the outcome of the war, it would be Disney going exclusive with their catalog and especially with their back catalog.
And Lucas will goto downloads...
by Doc_Hudson
Aug 20th, 2007
03:55:02 PM
Or so says Rick the Dick... But at any rate,the war will now be "unwinnable". Sony,Paramount,Disney,and the damn Weiny Brothers are all "trying" to help end this format(HD on discs) by supporting just one format. SACD/DVD-A(not to be confused with DVDA(hint hint,Matt and Trey) apparently did not teach the content providers very much. Now,IMHO
And Lucas will goto downloads...
by Doc_Hudson
Aug 20th, 2007
03:55:42 PM
The war is over.......they both lost me.
"Transformers exclusive will sell alot of players"
by Big Dumb Ape
Aug 20th, 2007
03:58:23 PM
Doughboy, you said: "Transformers available exclusively for HD-DVD this fall will sell a lot of players."

First of all, given how much people are STILL not buying into EITHER format until the marketplace shakes out more, I hardly think ONE movie is going to be the tipping point -- and even if that was the case, it sure as hell wouldn't be TF.

The fact that Spielberg used HIS clout to tell Paramount-- and by extension even Bill Gates and Microsoft -- to suck his dick and that HIS films would remain available in BOTH formats...and Paramount then blinked and agreed to his terms...certainly speaks volumes.

Also, come holiday season, it's not that TRANSFORMERS will sell a lot of players. It simply means the standard DVD will move a lot of units as expected, as once again people who want the movie -- but who haven't committed to a particular high end format yet -- will simply pick up their usual standard DVD at Best Buy or wherever for 15 bucks, and not think twice about it.

Who cares?
by Hoots Mon
Aug 20th, 2007
03:58:51 PM
Pull your finger out Knowles. Where's the Alvin and the Chipmunks review we're all waiting for?!
Whoever makes a decently priced combo player
by superfleish76
Aug 20th, 2007
04:00:42 PM
is gonna get my money. Don't really care which side wins, there are only a handful of films that I "need" in true HD.
Seriously? People are going to...
by snakecharmer
Aug 20th, 2007
04:01:05 PM
...spend a couple of hundred dollars so that they can watch Transformers in HDDVD? Really? Transformers was easily the biggest disappointment at theaters this summer. As long as I get Die Hard and Bourne on Blue-Ray im good. Blockbuster will play a bigger part in this "war" than people realize.
I also have chosen the standard DVD format
by Baron Karza
Aug 20th, 2007
04:01:48 PM
Because I aint buyin shit TWICE again. Besides, who wants to see Edward J Almos' face in HD?
Can you fly, Bobby?
by Hoots Mon
Aug 20th, 2007
04:03:27 PM
Robocop on Blu-ray. I'm so there. "I work for Jones! Dick Jones!!!"
I've chosen 8-Track and here's why
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:06:20 PM
Exclusivity, baby.
Who cares, this war is already lost
by FreeKill
Aug 20th, 2007
04:07:13 PM
This war is so silly. I have an HD TV at home and watching plain ole DVD's on it looks just great. There is really ZERO incentive for me to upgrade my entire collection to HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. I honestly can't see either of these sides winning for a long time because consumers are just not committing to the upgrades. I can walk into a Best Buy and pick up an amazing DVD player capable of playing all my Divx or other crazy formats for less than $150. An HD-DVD player is 500+, same with Blu-Ray. By the time everyone is switching in droves, a new contender will have emerged...
I was at a house this weekend with Blu-Ray
by modlight
Aug 20th, 2007
04:07:14 PM
Holy shit. They had a 52 inch flat panel sony and they threw in Fantastic Four. That looked phenomenal... yeah Fantastic friggin 4. I haven't seen an HD dvd yet, but it they can make me comment to myself on the color and composition of Fantastic Four I can only imagine what will happen when I grab Children of men, Casino Royale or any Michael Mann movie.
Where's the pic of Harry's right tit?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:07:42 PM
This year's Little Miss Cleavage.
Who needs HD-DVD or Blu-Ray
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:09:27 PM
The future of video is online viewing anyway. I've already started watching movies on Netflix.
GET THE REAL STORY.. GO TO DIGITAL BITS..
by Greigy Just Wanted To Say
Aug 20th, 2007
04:10:43 PM
Money talks and bullshits walks kids
The PimpDragon
by jfp2007
Aug 20th, 2007
04:10:51 PM
No, actually HD content surpassed VHS for the first time in June.
RETURN OF THE SHILL!
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Aug 20th, 2007
04:11:25 PM
That's funny, I've never seen an article, much less a headline, trumpeting announcements by Blu-Ray exclusive studios! hmmmm...

And Paramount runs right to Harry personally, knowing he is one person who is actually on their side.

Are you sure, Harry, you wanna start this up again? Because HD is STILL going to lose, and YES, Blockbuster, etc, would rather miss out on a few sales of Transformers or Shrek (which they wont, people will just buy standard DVD versions) than carry an entire dying format.
Did Blu-ray not pay off Blockbuster?
by mach5jack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:12:13 PM
Because Blockbuster could use the money, and how!

From Franchising.com:

"Blockbuster has lost significant amounts of money in recent years: $1.6 billion in 2002, almost $1.0 billion in 2003, and $1.2 billion in 2004."

Blockbuster also shitcanned its CEO a week or so after its Blu-ray announcement.

Clearly most of you have never even seen HD-DVD
by MaxTheSilent
Aug 20th, 2007
04:12:16 PM
Because if you had you'd be singing a different tune. When you look at something like KING KONG or BATMAN BEGINS in HD, you can't help but imagine your favourite movies looking that good. Then you will be a convert. Or, at least, someone who takes an active interest in how this whole 'war' plays out.
AND AICN IS IMPARTIAL AS A POLITICIAN
by Greigy Just Wanted To Say
Aug 20th, 2007
04:12:55 PM
Grow up kiddies....
FYI.....
by Doc_Hudson
Aug 20th, 2007
04:13:21 PM
Both formats are encoded the same way,the only difference is the actual,physical disc(Patented). I love HD content from online on my HDTV.....but this disc war is crazy stupid......
Midol Girl has chosen Blu-Ray and here's why ... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:13:52 PM
Looks prettier when you hang and spin it on her right nipple.
The most amazing thing about Harry's HD love
by modlight
Aug 20th, 2007
04:14:02 PM
is that he doesn't have both formats. I mean for a guy who loves film that much, and clearly does ok financially, wouldn't he just get both formats and let us know his thoughts on both? I can't afford it yet, but I'll probably get a PS3 and then a cheaper HD player and judge for myself, but it aint my job to tell people these things. Harry it is yours.
I have a next gen player
by slappy jones
Aug 20th, 2007
04:14:32 PM
i won't say which one as everyone seems to think if you like one you must hate the other but what I will say is the picture quality makes my dvd player look like a blurry out of focus piece of shit. Granted I don't thave the flashest dvd player in the world but it isn't a dinosaur either. the difference between the two formats is incredible. And upsetting since I own about 600 dvds but from now on depending on the availability I will only ever buy films on my format. if it doesn't happen to be available on my format I will get standard until someone comes out with a good all purpose machine....
Funny how HDDVD PAYS studios to go exclusive
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Aug 20th, 2007
04:15:32 PM
...while the rest go Blu-Ray of their own decision, with no bribery or payoffs. hmmmm....

The minute Microsoft/HD stops throwing free money at them, they'll defect to Blu-Ray immediately.
Steven Spielberg has chosen HD-DVD and heres why ....,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:15:54 PM
Shia pointed at the HD-DVD.
Indy WON'T go both formats...he'll wait for a winner
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Aug 20th, 2007
04:18:26 PM
Spielberg and Lucas have both said in interviews that the real biggies (Star Wars, Indy Jones, Jurassic, etc) will wait for a single winning format with decent household penetration. They may release some of their lesser films, like Close Encounters, AI, Schindler, etc; but the big dogs aren't coming until this war is over.
shiftyeyeddog2
by EddieBlake
Aug 20th, 2007
04:18:52 PM
I have to agree with you. Sayong that Blockbuster won't miss out on those sales is completely nonsensical since Blockbuster makes most of their money from the rentals anyway and they'll still have the regular formats. Now, if Paramount announced that they were dumping the regular DVD format, then maybe Blockbuster might reconsider, but as long as the regular format is out there, they won't really give a shit.
Every format Sony has backed/created has lost
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:20:48 PM
Minidisc, Memory Stick, Betamax, etc. The only logical thing to do, for people who have money too burn, is to go with the other format. For those of us who value our money, it would be smarter to stick with standard DVD. Do the math!
ShiftyEyedDog2
by Hercules
Aug 20th, 2007
04:22:04 PM
Do you have a link to any -- even one -- of those Spielberg and Lucas interviews?
Whoever wins, we lose
by la_sith
Aug 20th, 2007
04:24:55 PM
This format war sucks. I will not buy. I own an Oppo w/upconverter with a direct HDMI, and it works great. Thanks for keeping us "informed", Harry.
Couldn't care less..
by WillsDad
Aug 20th, 2007
04:25:37 PM
This format war is far from over. The majority are waiting this out and then choosing the format that will be left standing. At that point, if Blu-ray wins, the Dreamworks folks will have no choice but to release their movies in Blu-ray. Buying a high-def player, at this stage of the game, IMO does not make any sense. This is an example.
Give me a player...
by Tired Eagle
Aug 20th, 2007
04:28:35 PM
Put a player on the market that plays both formats and retails for $150-200, and I'm all in. That's what it took to get people to finally buy into DVDs a decade ago and nothing's changed.
So is your retarded porn thesis
by Dr. Chim Richalds
Aug 20th, 2007
04:28:55 PM
now defunct? Is the Paramount defection the new reason to choose HD-DVD ("...and here's why")?
The reason I ask.
by Hercules
Aug 20th, 2007
04:30:02 PM
I get why they want to wait for decent market penetration, but I'm highly doubtful that either format is going to wipe the other out. Movie consumers are buying the cheaper HD-DVD players while the gamers are not going to abandon PS3. Just as we have both PCs and Macs, just as we have X-Boxes and PS3s, I think HD-DVD and Blu-ray can and probably will survive side-by-side. I can't imagine we won't get HD "Star Wars" until one format wins -- because this war may not end before Lucas and Spielberg are pushing up daisies.
Who gives a fuck?
by IAmLegolas
Aug 20th, 2007
04:30:25 PM
Remember watching movies for the movies? This smacks of sportsmanlike dick swinging, continually pushing for bigger and better sound and vision until we can see the pores on Matt Damon's face and can here a stagehand cough on the set next door. Ridiculous. "standard" DVD is just fine.
IAMLegloas
by modlight
Aug 20th, 2007
04:36:45 PM
I would've agreed with you until I saw BluRay this weekend. It isn't HD in the sense of high def pores, seeing makeup, super defined lines and such as it is with HD Video on TV. It was, for me, seeing a movie outside of a theater as close to the film experience as I've seen. None of the compression or loss that I get with my TV, as good as it can be. It really was HD for the film's benefit. I dug it.
Links
by unrulyappendage
Aug 20th, 2007
04:39:31 PM
http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/ne ws/25/19925.php http://www.dvdtown.com/news/no -star-wars-on-blu-ray-or-hd-dv d/4480 The format war is bad for consumers. If it doesn't shake out, it looks like Lucas will release HD content online. Both BR and HD could invalidate each other and it looks like Microsoft doesn't care.
Thanks, jfp2007!
by The PimpDragon
Aug 20th, 2007
04:40:29 PM
I didn't see that HD formats finally passed VHS! Good to know! No matter what, both formats have a LONG way to go for market penetration! And here's what I don't get - all the fanboy haterade over a fucking video format? WAAAA! My format's better than yours because I can see Johnny Depp's mascara better! WAAAA! My format's better because I can see smudges on the Batmobile's windshield! Who cares what you like? Why do you care what others like? Like what you like and shut the fuck up!
modlight
by HEADGEEK
Aug 20th, 2007
04:40:30 PM
if Blu-ray puts a $300 or less priced player on the market this holiday season, I'll add it. Right now, my bank account is shallow and my cards need paying down. 30 days on the road, getting married and setting up in a new house is not cheap.
Herc: here's one
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Aug 20th, 2007
04:40:54 PM
I was mistaken as LUCAS himself has not addressed it, but rather he had right-hand man Rick McCallum discuss it at SW Celebration Europe. Article here: http://tinyurl.com/yqv42m
< br>Locating Spielberg's..will post when I get it again.
Harry has chosen HD-DVD. Here's the REAL reason why...
by Acappellaman
Aug 20th, 2007
04:41:22 PM
Apparently, Microsoft paid Harry off too, just like Paramount and Dreamworks. I doubt it took as much dough for Harry to shriek his allegience to HD-DVD, but I guarantee it happened. Heck, it might have been the free HD-DVD player that got Harry to do it. I've got to say, I'm sorely disappointed in you, Harry. For somebody who "loves" movies as much as you do, it should be unthinkable for you to lock yourself onto one format and miss out on seeing all your favorite movies in high definition that do not come out on HD-DVD. The fact that you'd turn your back on those movies is really upsetting to me, Harry. I'm disgusted. Somebody like YOU shouldn't have a bias, and to declare it repeatedly on your site is shameful. If you TRULY love movies as much as you say you do, you'd own both players. Shame on you, Harry. Seriously, shame on you.
Wake me when its over and theyve decided how to rape me
by SydBarretsMyDad
Aug 20th, 2007
04:44:02 PM
...further for my consumer dollar. Does anyone else think that all movies will be downloadable to own at a reduced cost in a few years anyway? I havent purchased a CD since I bought my IPOD.
Disgusting Shill
by Junior Frenger
Aug 20th, 2007
04:45:31 PM
Really Harry it's fine that your ass is bought and sold as easily as 13 year old boy from Thailand, but at least admit to it fer chrissakes. This was nothing more than a payout from Microsoft. Good job you wannabe liberal. For someone who's claims to be such a blue stater you sure are willing to get on your knees and suck the big fat corporate dick until it spunks $100 bills onto your man boobs.
It's understandable for finacial reasons
by unrulyappendage
Aug 20th, 2007
04:50:50 PM
To go with HD-DVD. Paramount and Dreamworks have 150 million reasons. This is like paying for a date for the prom. When you have to pay, it's desperation. It has NOTHING to do with the benefits of HD-DVD.
Microsoft, if you want to pay me $50 mill, I'll go gay!
by Yack Backer
Aug 20th, 2007
04:51:39 PM
HD-DVD is easy!
Oh yeah, the Wedding thing.
by modlight
Aug 20th, 2007
04:53:23 PM
Forgot you were now one of those guys who has to think about someone other than themselves. Congratulations by the way.
You're insulting us Harry.
by Cymbol
Aug 20th, 2007
04:53:31 PM
You're insulting our intelligence. From you: "This decision is about more than an intial Toshiba advertising incentive - the decision was made at a tech level, an economic level and about a cost delivery level to the public." So, you're expecting me to believe that Tobisha/Microsoft paying Paramount $150 Million and Paramount's epiphany that HD DVD is the best format are just happy f*cking coincidences??? You obviously think we are all a bunch of complete idiots. Seriously, this is the most insulting article you have ever written.
High def is a joke
by Knightsong
Aug 20th, 2007
04:54:49 PM
I've been to the stores and I've seen the picture, but I haven't seen what the big high def deal is. I honestly can't tell any real difference between dvd and hd dvd, or blu ray for that matter. The plasma and hd tv's get a great quality picture, but as far as seeing the difference between an hd dvd disk and a regular dvd disk...I'm not seeing it. It's just more bullshit drummed up to get the techno-lemmings to buy the newest piece of techno-shit. I love my techno-shit and I love having the latest greatest toys. But it's nothing but bullshit to me. Can anyone really tell the difference in the difference between Hi res and HD trailers on-line? I can't, and my guess is that anyone out there who says they can is lying to themselves. It's all a bunch of bull shit to get us to spend our money on their crap. HD exclusive content is just a way for them to get you to buy a $300 player rather than spend $40 on a DVD player. They're not making money on it any more, or at least as much as they'd like, so they're shoveling techno-bullshit at you. Stop eating it up and think for yourselves.
Ok ok....
by Doc_Hudson
Aug 20th, 2007
04:55:14 PM
Stop beating Harry......he just posted what about ten other sites did. Chill. We all love films here,regardless of the wanking format(My fav is in the actual theater.35mm and DTS...lol)
Stop crying babies
by futureman3000
Aug 20th, 2007
04:55:16 PM
Oh no, I had to read about the format wars and comment, boo hoo.
Neither format will win, here's why ...
by krack
Aug 20th, 2007
04:58:58 PM
The only reason people switched over their entire collections of music cassettes to CDs and entire collections of videotapes to DVDs is because of (1) better portability and (2) ease of moving through the disc's content instantaneously. It had nothing to do with sound quality.

And I can prove it ... people are now taking their entire CD collections and transfering them over to MP3 collections. In other words, they are willing to sacrifice superior sound to have even better portability and storage options.

Higher definition DVDs over zero improvements over standard DVDs other than picture quality. And nobody is going to re-buy a whole collection of films (at a cost of hundreds of dollars) when standard DVDs look fine.
...whatever. They both look great.
by Rando Calrisian
Aug 20th, 2007
05:00:13 PM
This battle is about 1000X lamer than the Optimus with flames debate (idiots). Can everyone just chill the fuck out and see that it will be a very long time before all this blows over? They both look awesome, and there are probably payoffs on every side. I'd take a damn payoff and tout HD-DVD or BluRay any freakin' day - and every single one of you out there would too. I say get 'em both and rack up even more freakin' debt, Man! That's the American way!
goddamn it
by AllieJamison
Aug 20th, 2007
05:00:22 PM
http://tinyurl.com/2swp7o
I never understood
by Kurzinski Valentine
Aug 20th, 2007
05:01:29 PM
how people can be so picky and particular about HD and clarity of the images, while at the same time, films like VERTIGO or IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE look and sound like you're watching something through 10-inch thick glasses with the sound blasting through a walky-walky 2 centimeters from your ears and can even handle it.
I never understood
by Kurzinski Valentine
Aug 20th, 2007
05:01:31 PM
how people can be so picky and particular about HD and clarity of the images, while at the same time, films like VERTIGO or IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE look and sound like you're watching something through 10-inch thick glasses with the sound blasting through a walky-walky 2 centimeters from your ears and can even handle it.
Should have read ...
by krack
Aug 20th, 2007
05:02:09 PM
"Higher definition DVDs offer zero improvements ..."

Maybe it's time AICN join the rest of the internet and gets an edit feature on the talkbacks.
I swear I only clicked once.
by Kurzinski Valentine
Aug 20th, 2007
05:02:28 PM
ps. batusi
WHATEVER FORMAT THEY RELEASE DANCING WITH THE STARS ON
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
05:03:09 PM
is the format I go with.
Wow that was quick!
by Junior Frenger
Aug 20th, 2007
05:04:55 PM
Harry deleted my post fast. It still doesn't change the fact that he's an obvious shill for corrupt corporations. Your right one thing Harry, it is about your finances. Ethics go right out the window when it comes to Harry's wallet. Delete my posts all you want. It was an obvious payout and you are supporting under some halfbaked excuses about cheap players and production costs. Boy, Bill Hunt must have really bruised your ego the last time you posted about HD-DVD.
PARAMOUNT'S THOUGHT PROCESS:
by ShiftyEyedDog2
Aug 20th, 2007
05:05:01 PM
"Neither HD format is selling much yet anyway, and you're saying you'll give us $150M CASH upfront? And then when the format dies, we can just switch over and start releasing them on Blu-Ray anyway! PLUS, the HD-DVD shmucks who bought them in the meantime will have to buy them all over again! BRILLIANT!"

Really, how can you blame them. They're being offered a mountain of cash to choose a side, and that cash is more than anyone's making so far on HD with actual disc sales. So why not take the money and then if their side loses, just start over again.
Fuck you Paramount, Harry and Microsoft
by SpreadLegsNotWar
Aug 20th, 2007
05:05:54 PM
All this amounts to is payola to prop up a dying format. Microsoft wants to prolong this format war as long they can so neither will win and they can emerge with their crappy 720p HD digital downloads as the dominant HD distribution method. Until someone can figure out how to get a full-size 1080p movie to my house in less than 15 minutes, there will always be a need for a "hard copy". Plus, people like having visible collections. But that's besides the point. Going from format neutral to format exclusive at this stage of the game is flat-out retarded. I mean, BD is outselling HD-DVD 2 to 1 and Paramount is just going to pull what they've already been selling? Shit, Blades of Glory is due to hit the shelves next week, you know they've already manufactured the discs, are they just going to destroy them now? Fuck you Paramount, now any movie you release on HD-DVD and not Blu-ray, I'll just hit up usenet and download the retail DVD instead of buying the Blu-ray. How fucking stupid are you? And fuck you Harry for being such a shameless shill, it's really, really sad. WE GET IT, YOU CHOSE HD-DVD. Now can you please offer equal coverage to BD or just stop posting anything HD related? And finally, fuck you Microsoft, for too many reasons to list here.
WHat did Harry do?!
by Chaka!
Aug 20th, 2007
05:06:23 PM
Seriously ... he posted news, asked Paramount what their reasons were, then posted the Press Release. Now he's a sellout? Man, just come for the free news, and try not to slap the host on your way out
Knightsong
by Acappellaman
Aug 20th, 2007
05:06:32 PM
One of two things: Either the store you saw the HD systems set up at were set up wrong, or there's something wrong with your eyesight, because high definition looks AMAZING. I can notice a HUGE difference, but it could also depend on the movie you're watching. I wouldn't care about watching some soap opera drama in HD, but an action/sci-fi movie with lots of special effects? HELL yes! The picture is so friggin crisp, it really makes a difference when you watch it on a good HDTV. Even regular DVDs look great when you watch them on an HD player. I can't tell you how many movies I've watched on my PS3 now, and they all look incredible, but the Blu Ray movies are stunning.
Bill Gates must be really good at sucking dick...
by rhcp2sweet
Aug 20th, 2007
05:08:25 PM
Why else would Harry be so hardcore HD?
Chaka
by Junior Frenger
Aug 20th, 2007
05:10:43 PM
The problem lies in the fact that Harry has attempted to convince people that the $150 million dollar payout from microsoft has nothing to do with the studios decision. That's why it's a shill piece and that is why Harry is being taken to task. His posture towards his readers is blatantly insulting.
To those who have seen HDDVD and BluRay
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
05:12:48 PM
is it markedly better than the movies you can watch online at Netflix? Because they look pretty damned good on my monitor.
DON'T WHINE TO US ABOUT THE COST OF YOUR HONEYMOON..!!!
by Greigy Just Wanted To Say
Aug 20th, 2007
05:12:51 PM
It's not like someone stuck a fucking gun to your head to go. You had fun, you played... STOP WHINNING..!!
BY THE WAY..
by Greigy Just Wanted To Say
Aug 20th, 2007
05:14:13 PM
BETAMAX IS COMING BACK IN A BIG WAY..!!!
HD DVD does not have better codecs
by joevfx
Aug 20th, 2007
05:14:23 PM
you guys are stupoid, all newer blu ray movies have the same exact codecs as hd dvd. and by the wya, paramount was releases better codecs on blu ray then they were hd dvd, hence the reason hd dvd paid them off. i hopoe it was worth it cause with the cheap players toshiba is sellign and the big money they are wasteign on exclusives they have to be reachign the bottom of there bank super fast.
Hmmm...
by Junior Frenger
Aug 20th, 2007
05:14:43 PM
Guess he didn't delete my post... it wasn't there a minute ago.
CDI...... NEVER SAY NEVER...!!
by Greigy Just Wanted To Say
Aug 20th, 2007
05:15:03 PM
FORMAT OF THE FUTURE...
IF $150M PAYS FOR THE NEXT TREK FILM AT PARAMOUNT...
by Greigy Just Wanted To Say
Aug 20th, 2007
05:16:40 PM
... ARE YOU GOING TO COMPLAIN..?
Also Chaka...
by SpreadLegsNotWar
Aug 20th, 2007
05:16:41 PM
"then shortly thereafter, I received a phone call from Rob Moore, President Worldwide Marketing, Distribution and Home Entertainment for Paramount Pictures" Got big HD-DVD news? Give Harry a call and he'll post that shit on his website tout de suite and not even make mention of the $150M in payola they got to go exclusive. That's another reason why people are bagging Harry for this, he's such a blatant shill for them it's sickening.
CAN YOU PEOPLE READ?
by Batutta
Aug 20th, 2007
05:18:55 PM
The post clearly says the Indiana Jones films and films Steven directs will be available in BOTH formats, HD DVD and Blu-Ray. My money is still on HD DVD for the simple reason that it's cheaper to produce and buy, the same reason VHS won out despite Betamax's higher quality. Also, Sony is too proprietary with their hardware.
the bitching.....
by rorschach83
Aug 20th, 2007
05:18:59 PM
is too much. im guessing its because you cant afford these shiny new players. i have both via the xbox ad on and ps3 and i prefer hd due to it being non region encoded. but really the picture is identical to the naked eye. i have more hd dvds since they have the better library so far (mainly down to universal), in fact bar clerks 2 and the host all my hd discs are from universal, warner or sony (blu rays). if you guys have seen 300 or batman begins, or the thing or children of men, eternal sunshine, the prestige or even the fucking road warrior in HD and still think, fuck it ill stick with my standard def dvds then i dont think you can call yourself a true lover of film. which is what this site is about, no? if the cost of a hdtv, ps3+xbox/combo player is too much dont whine about it endlessly in the hope of blu ray winning and prices comming down. i mean, shit, you yanks annoy me when i import hd discs for under 20 dollers from your shores and would have to stump up almost 60 dollors a movie in the uk for ONE MOVIE it annoys me about the whining regarding cost. i like what Hercules said about both being able to co exist. why not? having both formats i want that to happen. why do you need ONE format to win? its high picture and sound quality for movies not fucking highlander.
This is tough one...
by Alfred_Packer
Aug 20th, 2007
05:27:21 PM
I jumped into the DVD bandwagon headfirst in early 1997, and now own almost 2000 DVD's. I consider myself an enthusianst for good quality home video, but I'm just not ready to pick either one of these formats. I do know a couple truths though: 1) I want to hold the movie in my hand. The day things are available via download only will be sad one. Trust me, you dont want it to ever come to a point where you give the studios, or worse, the federal government, be able to tap in a couple keystrokes,and presto, you no longer are able to see a movie anymore. Anyone remember that fuss over "The Tin Drum" a couple years back? In a download only world, I hate to see what the effect of a couple thousand irate busybodies writing letters could do. Two other words should scare the heck out of anyone advocating a download only world. Forced advertising. 2) Can Sony Be Trusted? Ok, more paranoia, but do you trust Sony not to try some more underhanded shit? I have serious doubts about handing them the keys to the next home video format. That reason alone has automatically rooting for HD-DVD. And hi def discs for movies just isnt the revolution the DVD was. Sure, movies look great, but I am sure not gonna replace/rebuy my entire collection like many did for VHS. The picture is improved, but all the other bennies that got Joe Public to switch to DVD arent there in high def. Widescreen presentation, no tape to get tangles, and no more rewinding/fast forwarding. Thats why people went to DVD. A super duper picture is nice, but those other reasons were the reason many love DVD and jumped on board. If people gave a shit about quality, they wouldnt be listening to ALL their music now on crappy mp3 systems. In the music world, people are actively GIVING UP quality for convienence in droves. Why would anyone except the former laserdisc dynamic give a shit about hi def discs at this point? What do they offer over the previous format besides an improved picture? As it stands right now, I dont see myself going with either new format anytime soon. In 1997, it was just a matter of WHEN the studios were going to come around to DVD. Now in 2007, having to roll dice to choose a format means no choice at all, not when DVD is just fine. Yeah, Ill upgrade to a new format, but only when it gets to the point that they dont release a new movie on the old one. I have my widescreen, instant chapter selection, and no tape eating. Hi def has a long ways to go to convince me its nothing more than a niche format, and worthy of any type of investment.
No Star Wars or Indy Movies, No Sale
by FookU
Aug 20th, 2007
05:30:03 PM
My only interest in Blu-Ray winning is seeing Micro$oft get their ass handed to them. I don't care if you love or hate Sony, Micro$oft is the greater of those two evils. Just look at some of their business practices over the years.
The truth is, neither of these formats will win.
by GrantChastain
Aug 20th, 2007
05:31:42 PM
and HERE'S WHY.

Generally speaking, most consumers haven't gotten to the stage where the quality of their television sets will support formats like 1080p, or even 720p/1080i. We're still talking about a society that, by and large, depends upon older technologies upon which to watch their shows. In addition... and as much as it pains me to say it out loud, it IS true... most people just can't tell much of a difference, and don't care that much to invest thousands of dollars into a new alternative.

In the meantime, we're starting to see more and more all-digital delivery methods, like Amazon's download service and Netflix On Demand. I believe one of these, or some alternate in-home delivery method, is the way movies will see distribution in the not-so-far-off future. We've gotten to the point where people prefer digital distribution of their music, and they trust that the digital files aren't going to become suddenly corrupted or lost, so CD sales have suffered. Once they get movies in an easy-to-obtain format like that on a centralized media server, that will end the format war as we know it. And don't think for a second that Microsoft and Apple aren't both on the cutting edge of making that a reality. Bank on them both being major players in this brave new world.

Harold hath Chosen BetaMax, und here ist why.
by TomBodet
Aug 20th, 2007
05:34:26 PM
No interest here. ZZZZZZZZ.
JESUS SOME ANGRY PS3 FANBOYS OR WHAT
by Snukadaman
Aug 20th, 2007
05:42:34 PM
I didn't see this much hate even on the announcement that blockbuster was dropping hd-dvd. Get over it, neither format is making a impact on the market as we speak.
I choose the .45 format
by TheNothing
Aug 20th, 2007
05:45:22 PM
Not the record - the gun. All the mindless haters have finally driven me to end it all. For Christ's sake people, it's not THAT big a deal. Like HD-DVD? Buy it. Like Blu-ray? Buy it. Like cheese? Buy it. Sit and enjoy it. The end.
HARRY YOU ARE FUCKING WRONG and you really need to...
by LordEnigma
Aug 20th, 2007
05:46:42 PM
accept it. Seriously; Paramount are a moronic studio -- ran by morons like Universal -- and they will have to change their minds in less than a year. IF either of these to studios were ran by people with their own heads out of their own asses. They would never make such a castrophic decision in terms of ancillaries.
I just saw the ALVIN & THE CHIPMUNKS trailer
by Kurzinski Valentine
Aug 20th, 2007
05:47:12 PM
and proceeded to gouge out my own eyes and puke in the sockets.
GrantChastain...
by SpreadLegsNotWar
Aug 20th, 2007
05:49:41 PM
...until someone can figure out how to deliver a uncompressed 1080p picture with uncompressed audio to my house and my TV (fuck watching it on my computer) in under 15 minutes, digital distribution will not be preferable to BD or HD-DVD. Currently the backbone does not exist. Shit, cable companies can't even broadcast in 1080p, no less deliver on demand 1080p content.
What Goes @ Comes @ Harry's got a blood clot
by ThePilgrim
Aug 20th, 2007
05:50:42 PM
He wont be around to take dirty money much longer... A little birdy told me this. HD-DVD is Watergate. Well this place has lots of those. A little money slipped under prying eyes to promote and or say nice things. The clock sand is running out, and Father & Son are closing shop sooner than they thought. But every geek must loose it's blanket and make way to the roof to the sun to the warm pussy that sees beyond the rims. Sitting there fat, stuffing your face doing nothing for so long. who do you blame... As Christopher Walken said... Cornflakes... There just Cornflakes..
I CHOOSE A RADIO SHACK ANTENNA
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
05:56:10 PM
Because the wifi, bluetooth, satellite and cell tower waves are all destroying our brain cells.
Dreamworks and Paramount paid off to ditch Blu-Ray
by Brendon
Aug 20th, 2007
05:56:41 PM
Here's Nikki Finke's piece on it all: http://tinyurl.com/39nt2k We're being shafted over by this whole format war. Either Blu-Ray wins or no-one does... and now it looks like no-one does. The next generation will most likely be bypassed now. Thanks Dreamworks, Paramount, Universal. Thanks a fucking bunch.
For those who don't see a difference in HD
by Cymbol
Aug 20th, 2007
06:00:11 PM
Try using a HDTV to view it on, not your 17" computer monitor. And really, hi-def is for T.V.s 50" or bigger. Try watching DVD on a 65". Almost unwatchable. Upconverted DVDs to 1080p are pretty good, but once you watch the HD version, you just can't go back. What's funny is, the people who "can't" see the difference, seem to be the people who don't "own" a HDTV. The, "I saw it in store" comment doesn't fly. Most of those stores have branched signals (playing one movie from one player and break it down to 40 different T.V.s). You're not seeing the real picture. Just FYI.
Fuck both HD camps
by Liberty Valance
Aug 20th, 2007
06:03:32 PM
This medium was forced on the public before there was any demand for it in a blatant attempt to quickly replicate the runaway success of the DVD format. VHS was the predominant format for 20 years before dying out. Meanwhile DVD just celebrated its 10th birthday a few months ago, and didn't really take off until about 2000-2001. Like Alfred Packer said, DVD was a revolutionary upgrade from VHS in terms of picture and sound quality, special features, durability, convenience and affordability. HD and Blu-ray offer an incremental picture upgrade and a shitload more wasted disc space, and that's about it. For all the boasting these camps do about how much data these discs hold, special features haven't improved in quantity or quality at all, have they? Most consumers are still in the process of replacing their VHS, and now we're lured into buying the same flicks again for a marginally better picture? Fuck Sony and Toshiba. Fuck them in the asshole with a big rubber dick.
I'VE CHOSEN V CAST AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY ..... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
06:07:53 PM
Cuz watching a movie on the toilet is great.
Harry! How dare you post your opinion...
by The PimpDragon
Aug 20th, 2007
06:08:18 PM
On your own fucking website! The shame of it all! You whiny fanboys fucking kill me! Go make your own "Can I Please Suck Sony Off" website and post all of your Blu-Ray lust posts. Then you can jerk it to your Blu-Ray all you want without Harry's HD-DVD man-lovins! CHRIST! Why the fuck do you care what Harry likes? Save us from the fanboys, Jeebus!
KNIGHTSONG
by HamsterDK
Aug 20th, 2007
06:10:28 PM
You say you don't see the big deal in HD?? Well let me tell you that when you watch your movies with a an HD projector on a 100" silverscreen the difference in quality is staggering. I have more than 500 hundred regular DVD and they simply became obsolete the day I set up my projector. The resolution of regular DVD is just way too small to be blown up to 100 inches. It becomes blurry and blocky whereas HD looks impossibly sharp and crisp. I would say that if your screensize is 46" or above you should change to HD. Anything less and regular DVD with upscaling will look fine.
Marginal picture upgrade...?
by Mr. Osato
Aug 20th, 2007
06:18:22 PM
you are either using 3 inch thick glasses, or are blatantly retarded. This announcement only prolongs the excruciating death of HD-DVD. And I hope that whore of a shill Harry chucks his player out of the window.
Paramount has chosen HD DVD... Here's why...
by polyh3dron
Aug 20th, 2007
06:19:05 PM
$150 million in Microsoft moneyhats just feels right. Harry likes the moneyhats too.
MY DICK HAS CHOSEN BLU-RAY´S ASS
by Wilclas
Aug 20th, 2007
06:19:42 PM
Hail the mighty XBOX360!
I just got a 360 Add-On, but here's why I figure...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Aug 20th, 2007
06:21:19 PM
it won't matter in the end for me. Let's say HD-DVD wins. I'm already there, go me. Let's say BLU-RAY wins. It's probably not going to happen for a while, years, I figure. I figure by the time it does, combo players are going to be pretty reasonably priced, so I'll have my 360 add-on for my HD-DVDs, and I'll get a combo player to play those HDDVDs, and play the Blu-Rays I'll have to get. Either way, don't think it's going to be that big a deal.
Huh?
by Bartleby T. Scrivener
Aug 20th, 2007
06:24:03 PM
"the decision was made at a tech level, an economic level and about a cost delivery level to the public". No, it was made when 100 million dollars ended up at Dreamworks, and 50 million landed at Paramount. Technicians don't make 150 million dollar decisions.
Exacly, iamnicksaicnsn!
by Wilclas
Aug 20th, 2007
06:24:43 PM
Praise the lord!
By the way, I watched The Thing on HDDVD last night...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Aug 20th, 2007
06:31:18 PM
and I was shocked by the quality and the colors on just the opening UFO sequence. Also the 360 Add-On is advertised this week for 180 with the 300 HDDVD for free, including King Kong and the 5 you get for free in the mail... (heh, sorry for the shilling)
Headline: Paramount commits home entertainment Sepuku!
by scrivener
Aug 20th, 2007
06:35:16 PM
So special olmpics contestants are making important manufacturing and format support decisions for Paramount, now? Seriously, that's got to be the dumbest thing I've read since the announcement of Bloodrayne 2.
Coming this Holiday Season...
by Bluereader
Aug 20th, 2007
06:41:04 PM
A winner to all this crap. Either Sony will put out a under $300 Blueray Player or HD-DVD will win. With flat panel TV's dropping in price, many people (inc. me) will be buying them and they will also (like me) pick up which ever player is cheapest. Being a parent, the fact that Blueray has Disney might push me to get that format - also I'm a Mac and Apple is supporting the Blue, so there you go.
beta max WAS better than vhs
by MagicPhone
Aug 20th, 2007
06:45:39 PM
by a long shot. So I'm not surprised that HD is beating the better format.
FUCK THIS FORMAT WAR SHIT - J-BIEL'S GOING...
by Pennsy
Aug 20th, 2007
06:56:09 PM
Bare, per the NY Post's Page Six column today: "She's been shy about bearing her bod every since her racy Gear magazine spread hit stands in 2000, but Jessica Biel plans to shed her threads in the upcoming movie "Powder Blue," which co-stars Forest Whitaker. Us Weekly reports that she'll play a "stripper trying to earn money to raise her terminally ill son," and audiences will get an eyeful. Biel "signed a contract that explicitly details the bare minimum fans will see - including shots of her breasts and butt," a source dished to the glossy."
Downloadable Content
by JaggedSac
Aug 20th, 2007
06:59:30 PM
Everything is going to be downloadable in the future. If you think otherwise your a dumb cunt. Buying CDs will shortly go the way of the dodo and so will buying movies on discs. It is not a bad thing. Network bandwidths are constanly being improved. We will be seeing 100MBPS home internet within the next 10 years guaranteed. Hell games are already doing it with Valve's Steam service. ID Software is jumping on their bandwagon. All I see are upsides. Hell if it gets to the point where we can just stream hi def content from massive servers without even having a hard drive I really dont see a problem. No more disc printing costs, no more shipping costs, no more of any of that bullshit. Distribution costs will be cut to a fraction of what they are now. Microsoft got where they are because they know business and they know it well. I don't care what anyone says .Net and C# kick fucking ass(no matter what you say there isn't that much of a performance hit). Neither Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will become mass market because soon incredibly high speed internet will be as common as paying for electricity. Microsoft knows that downloadable content is the way to go because they are making money off of it as we speak. There is only the cost of hiring server mainanance people and the cost of the servers themselves. Anything else is just data being saved onto. Embrace technology.
HELLO IDIOTS!!
by haitu
Aug 20th, 2007
07:01:08 PM
There is already a relatively cheap blue-ray hdvd player coming out. who the fuck cares.
Dataset has chosen Divx and here's why
by Dataset
Aug 20th, 2007
07:03:20 PM
Damn near DVD quality, six films per disc with surround sound, and easy dvd ripping. Screw the pirates online. Rip it yourself just like your cd's. A 500 gig hard drive and no more huge shelves of discs. I have a PS3 and love blu-ray by the way. So for movies I can't live without, I buy blu-ray. For my library titles and TV series, I rip and store.
anyone who says they can't see the difference
by slappy jones
Aug 20th, 2007
07:05:15 PM
is either stubbornly lying or has not seen either format properly displayed. I almost cried when I set my new player up and saw the quality difference....because it made me want to torch my entire dvd collection.anyone who says they cannot see the difference between standard definition discs and the new hi-def formats hasn't seen it. The difference is amazing...some of them almost looke three dimensional. It is really amazing.
Glad i have both players WHEEEE!
by dead youngling
Aug 20th, 2007
07:08:07 PM
they both look great.
I've with Dataset and here's why .... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
07:09:32 PM
I watch all my movies on a 4.5" screen Archos anyway. Tiny is where the future is at, bitches.
BLU-RAY 2: SCENT-O-RAMA
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
07:15:58 PM
Smell Jessica Alba's ass in high definition scent-o-rama.
BLU-RAY 3: VIDEODROME
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
07:17:13 PM
The future of interactive entertainment. Jessica Alba will reach out and tickle your taint. Well worth the $300.
Who cares which format will win?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
07:21:31 PM
We're all going to die from another ice age anyway. Let's all bang Midol Girl while there's still time.
Why I Chose HD DVD
by Henryhill76
Aug 20th, 2007
07:29:38 PM
So, I purchased the $299 Toshiba HD DVD player last week. Basically, it was a measured decision due to the following: it was time for a new DVD player and for the price, I decided to take a chance and upgrade. Pretty much everything I've read states that there won't be a clear cut winner for at least a year or more. Not to mention, I put in a few of my standard DVD discs and the upconvert picture quality is AMAZING. I was finally able to recreate the pristine images of Michael Mann's "Collateral" and "Miami Vice" that I witnessed in the theater (projected in digital), plus "Hot Fuzz" and so many others look incredible now as well. Granted, I have a widescreen DLP Samsung TV that helps the images, but this was a nice investment. Bottom line- I'll buy a few HD DVD discs here and there, but for $300 and the ability to upconvert my standard DVD's for the next two years into stunning quality is well worth it for me, no matter what format wins. I think if that works for you as individual, then choose your format and have fun!
Peter Franks is an idiot
by grandlarseny
Aug 20th, 2007
07:36:27 PM
first off, where the hell does someone who reads and posts on aintitcool get off on calling the rest of us "fanboys" in such a derogatory way? second, not everyone wins in a format war. blu-ray trumps hd dvd in a few years. evryone with an hd dvd player and lots of invested dollars in teh format "lose" because they are now stuck with a dead technology. we're not all wealthy enough to own both formats like you asshole. personally, i want hd-dvd to win because it will ultimately be cheaper. beta was the technologically superior format 25 or 30 years ago, but vhs still won because it was cheaper for both consumers and manufacturers. if i was a betting man, i'd bet hd-dvd.
Piss On Them All, & The Format Wars They Rode In On
by chromedome
Aug 20th, 2007
07:38:17 PM
They can both BITE me.

When there is a universal format player for 150 bucks, call me....

to show that I despise them both impartially, I post this in both the BluRay and HD DVD talkbacks. Full Disclosure Reigns Supreme

Harry. You really should stop commenting on this war.
by ELGordo
Aug 20th, 2007
07:43:00 PM
First of all the cost issues regarding the disc production have ALWAYS been known.

A Paramount tech guy is not revealing something profound here. Everybody knows it's more expensive to produce BD discs but if Paramount is claiming that that is the reason for their action then what about the other studios? Why does a small company like Anchor Bay go BD if it's more expensive? Why? Because it sells better. Simple as that.

And do you really think that the Paramount tech guy isn't selling you something? Do you really think that what he says to you are his own thoughts? And do you really think that Microsoft's money had nothing to do with this?

Please stop commenting on this issues because you will just get shit from the readers and you've continously made an ass of yourself by spouting utter crap regarding the formats.

Ju-Ray will win.
by Kurzinski Valentine
Aug 20th, 2007
07:50:34 PM
The yarmulke has never looked so crisp!
And why does Paramount personaly call Harry?
by ELGordo
Aug 20th, 2007
07:52:43 PM
And not any of the site that actually cover the DVD and HD formats. Why didn't the call The Bits, probably the largest and best DVD site in the world?

I think I know.

Which one is Vivid backing?
by supermarch
Aug 20th, 2007
07:54:43 PM
Hey r tards, why not just play them through your computer? I can play either format right from the very PC I'm typing this on. For free. Yup no 1000 or 300 or even 1 dollar player needed.

In most cases it's human error trying to be fixed with technology. This time it's technology being fixed with pay offs (ie human error)?

What a waste of time.

Fanboys are hilarious
by cobb1138
Aug 20th, 2007
07:54:47 PM
especially the douche from the digital bits. Everybody likes to scream bloody murder about the rumored $150m hddvd paid to paramount/dreamworks. What about the payoff to blockbuster to only back bluray? Or did they just happen to decide on bluray after announcing record losses by coincidence? When hddvd does it its a shady practice but when sony does it its okay. Or how about the fact that apple comp. is a backer of bluray and Steve Jobs is the majority shareholder in disney. Must be another coincidence that disney is blueray exclusive. Another thing is the issue of sony developing a format for movies when they own their own movie studio and then selling the technology to other companies. "If you dont use bluray thats fine. You just wont ever see a sony movie or any of the other studios we have sewn up to support the other format". Sounds a little shifty to me. Toshiba created dvd. Toshiba created hddvd. Toshiba does not own their own movie studio. Yes toshiba, not microsoft. The only reason microsoft backed hddvd is because apple backed bluray. I love the fact that all these articles are stating that "microsoft" was "rumored" to have paid 150m to paramount/dreamworks while slagging the evil microsoft corp. If I knew that they were handing in this "news" in the form of hand written notes or on an apple computer their slander might have some merit to me. But something tells me that 90% of them were done on windows xp or higher. I'm not defending planet gates, I just want to discredit saint sony. If any body knows anything about the consumer electronics industry its that sony is the microsoft of that world. You regularily pay a premium price for anything with a sony badge. Not to mention betamax, minidisc, sacd and umd. All formats that were forced upon the consumer by sony and all rejected. And those a just a few examples of sonys ethical business practice. Thats why I dont understand this love for bluray and this disdain for hddvd.(I own both and love both) Do people really want the ps3 to succeed that badly? Are all the haters just mad that the ps3 isn't good for much else other than bluray? I dont know and I dont care. I just wanted to point out some things that many people are overlooking. All this format war is going to do is drive down prices. If there was no hddvd you would have paid $750 for your ps3's and standalone bluray would still be $1300. If you like bluray buy bluray. If you like hddvd buy hddvd. But quit fuckin whinin whenever hddvd gets touted by anybody. Flame away ps3 owners flame away.
They Were Men, Once.
by kevinwillis.net
Aug 20th, 2007
08:05:04 PM
"They were once men - great kings of cinema. Then Knowles the deceiver gave to them nine pre-release discs of power. Blinded by their high resolution, they took them without question. One by one they've fallen into darkness. Now they are slaves to Harry's will. They are the Nerdsgul. Geekwraiths, neither living nor dead. At all times they feel the presence of the Disc, the Final Format, drawn to the odor of the One."

Sorry. I'm feeling peculiarly LOTR tonight.
Both formats are excuses to drive up other sales...
by NoCalFlicks
Aug 20th, 2007
08:07:38 PM
Seriously. If you go into Best Buy or Frys and buy a blu-ray or HD-DVD player....the next thing you will be told is how your current TV won't play these movies up to their full potential and then you need a new HD Receiver, and then your wires aren't good enough, then your speakers need to be upgraded. At this point, both formats are just a reason for electronic stores to push the sale of home theater equipment. Lets get serious here, we are still at least approx 2 years away from Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD discs to be as cheap as DVDs, so why even spend the extra money NOW, to have it. If everyone just held onto their money for awhile, you will end up saving hundreds in the long run. Also, we are also about 1 technological advancement away from the naked eye not being able to tell the difference anymore. Everyone is aware that they are already producing the next next-gen line of TVs called "Ultra-HD" it blows away today's aspect ratio and pixel rates. The problem is, the naked eye cannot even tell the difference, so in about 10 years be prepared to start buying products based on hypothetical specs.
implosion approaching
by MC-909
Aug 20th, 2007
08:08:25 PM
This bullshit (bluray v. HD-DVD) is fucking ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet the average consumer, i.e.: non-movie/tech geek, simply won't care anymore. This is the exact reason I stopped collecting baseball cards 16 years ago: they flooded the market with too much stuff to keep up with.

What kind of business plan is that? I'll tell you what kind it is: it's the kind they use to keep your mind off of all the other crap going on in the world. Seriously, there's a "war" between bluray and hd-dvd? Isn't there some other "war" going on that we should be a little bit more worried about?

Fact or Fiction...........
by jegoing74
Aug 20th, 2007
08:18:32 PM
Blu-Ray is a more durable disc than HD-DVD? I read Sony coats their discs with some super epoxy and it's resistant to damage.
IN OTHER WORDS...
by Redfive!
Aug 20th, 2007
08:22:46 PM
Microsoft paid off Paramount to exclude BR So they could keep this war going.Why becuase MS Has a better chance is striking out the home video market when it has its hands in the pot and can make the only way of viewing movies at home through download only. Read between the lines people MS Isnt about disc to buy its about download only.
These will be obsolete before the format war ends
by INWOsuxRED
Aug 20th, 2007
08:28:09 PM
everything is going to be streaming and downloading by the time these assholes get their act together. This shit is a bump in the road. Everything will be on-demand and Alberto Gonzales will know what you watch and when you watch it. If you watch one too many Michael Moore movies, or one too many Gangbangs, you're off to Git-mo.
Why does every movie on Blu-ray look slightly bluish?
by Darth_Inedible
Aug 20th, 2007
08:33:48 PM
I mean the picture is nice and all but it's like watching films with tinted sunglasses on. Is this a weakness of the blue-laser tech? I guess some can overlook this but I chose HD-DVD because of the accurate color reproduction.
I have a HDDVD and love it. And this made my weekend
by Stormwatcher
Aug 20th, 2007
08:33:57 PM
Cuz I hates me some Sony. If you can't run a successful business and loose money year to year and only appear good because you dump money into marketing, then you suck. And Blue Ray discs (some of them) have rot issues (dealt with now) but really. This is sweet cuz now I might not have to buy a Blue Ray cuz I would never buy a PS3 and support Sony, was going to buy a LG Blue Ray but screw it, Paramount and Universal are the biggest, Sony and Fox make Crap and Disney other than Pixar is irrelevant to me. Sweeeeeeeeet! Is Content still king Digital Bits? Screw You. THose guys are sooo much more bias than Harry.
Harry The Blu-Ray Whore
by quantize
Aug 20th, 2007
08:38:46 PM
Dude, like your taste in films you sure do know how to back losers..
Can you imagine people renting TRANSFORMERS?
by ricarleite
Aug 20th, 2007
08:53:03 PM
I sure can't. Nonetheless, I am a supporter of HD-DVD for two reasons. One, it's the better overall, the price will drop faster than blu-ray, and the advantages od blu-ray are not that big to compensate. Two, Sony is known for non-inovation and attempting to force technology down to consumer's throat in order to get the sole license for a mass use product. It has failed on EVERY SINGLE attempt. Let's see, Betamax? Failure. MD? Failure. PSP movie discs? Failure. DAT? Failure. Digital-8? Failure. DCC? Failure. Memory Stick? Failure. Blu-Ray? Well, let's see, suffocating proprietary technology? Check. Initial super hype, good sales followed by declined? Check. Mega application built around the technology that flops in a pathetic way (PS3)? Fucking check! Blu-ray might be the nail on Sony's coffin this year...
This Means Nothing
by twitchinmonkey
Aug 20th, 2007
08:53:07 PM
The only relivant part of this story is Spielberg refusing to go along with this idiotic deal. Now, if Microsoft is able to cut a big enough check to convince Warners/New Line to go HD-DVD exclusive, then the HD-DVD camp might have something to crow about, but considering Warners just made 3 times as much on the 300 blu-ray as they did on HD-DVD, it would have to be a pretty fuckin' big check.
the shilling on AICN continues for HD DVD...
by lynxpro
Aug 20th, 2007
09:03:00 PM
Gee, no mention of Paramount receiving $50 million from Microsoft via the Toshiba/HD DVD Forum proxy guaranteeing this exclusivity? And Mr. Paramount personally calls up Harry over this? I think we need to buy some Miracle Gro for distribution on this site because I smell total plant. At least Spielberg knows which format to support.
Fuck this war! I'm going back to Laser Disc.
by glodene
Aug 20th, 2007
09:03:50 PM
I still got my Heart of Darkness: Making of Apocalypse Now Documentary and some old VHS Porn..So who needs to become a pawn in this Big Studio Pissing Match.
meh.
by the projectionist
Aug 20th, 2007
09:05:44 PM
meh.
the only factor that should really matter is
by I87D
Aug 20th, 2007
09:15:10 PM
disc capacity. that's it. that's real limit to the format's potential. not codec or programming language. those are negligible if you run out of space on the disc itself. the capacity isn't negotiable. just wanted to add that... i think we can all agree that the main purpose of an HD format is to show material in the least compressed form with as much data as possible. so i'm just saying this since i haven't seen the word capacity mentioned too much yet in favor of the other terms...
paramount suck on my hdmi cable you assholes
by skiff
Aug 20th, 2007
09:16:43 PM
paramount are not getting any more of my money for a very long time. I hope the new startrek crashes like the last one did. Just wait for the cracked hddvds to show up on the torrents download em and burn them on bluray. Burner prices should start coming down soon.
MIDOL GIRL CHOSE BLU-RAY AND HERE'S WHY ...... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:18:15 PM
Free low-cut sweater with every 10-pack.
I CHOSE SHIA-RAY AND HERE'S WHY ...... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:28:36 PM
Only Shia movies, and that's all anyone needs.
SPECIAL JEW-FRO LINED JEWEL CASES WITH SHIA-RAY DISCS
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:29:59 PM
Rub them on your balls for extra Shiarific pleasure.
50 CENT CHOSE GHETTO-RAY AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY ...,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:33:16 PM
Exclusive disc for PIMPS UP! HOES DOWN!! complete series in special edition nappy box sets.
ICE T CHOSE WHITE-BITCH-RAY AND HERE'S WHY ........ ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:35:24 PM
To get back at the MAN.
Microsoft should just bend over and spread their cheeks
by Mr. Osato
Aug 20th, 2007
09:35:46 PM
to make the reaming from Blu-Ray, that much easier. 150 mil to buy 3 movies and prolong a war. Thanks Paramount for fucking yourselves out of money from my wallet.
I'll buy a hybrid player WHEN I have to...
by crieff405
Aug 20th, 2007
09:36:29 PM
...and only then, if it's multi-region. Really, does Blu-Ray or HD really offer me anything I don't already have? No, and that's the point. Hollywood knows still that their older films are more popular, have more staying power and, truth be told, were better. They want me to buy it again, and I'm sorry I just don't care. They could have at least tried to make me think DVDs are more EASILY scratched, or wear out, or perhaps even manufactured them this way so I would need a new format...but no, as it stands, I don't need this crap.
I CHOSE ALBA-RAY AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY ..... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:39:19 PM
Scratch N' Sniff of Jessica's butt on every disc.
REV. TED HAGGARD CHOSE HD-DVD AND HERE'S WHY ..... ,
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 20th, 2007
09:40:41 PM
Coupon for free buttseks.
Awesome! Hopefully HD-DVD wins.
by Orionsangels
Aug 20th, 2007
09:43:54 PM
So I can stop referring to my movies as a fish. I caught a Blu-Ray yesterday! I'm gonna mount it on my wall.
money drips out of microsofts asshole
by skiff
Aug 20th, 2007
09:48:41 PM
paramount will not be getting any of my money for a very lomg time. Lick up that money paramount hmmmmmmm tasty
kelley avery's ass must be some sore
by skiff
Aug 20th, 2007
09:58:33 PM
I wonder who brought the lube microsoft or toshiba. Can we say xbox live downloads awesome!
LOL at Spielberg's bit. He is soo pissed at paramount
by Proman1984
Aug 20th, 2007
10:00:08 PM
But we, his fans are happy to have options.
the reality
by movieManiac
Aug 20th, 2007
10:06:43 PM
the reality is that even if HD DVD "wins" this is no longer an all or nothing format war. Blu Ray will always stay mainly because of the need of high capacity discs for next gen games. The PS3 system will need BD for games in the next 5-10 years of its product lifespan and by the end of it BD will be well established and will definitely be around. Listen to Shpielberg.
Don't concern me none.
by sluggo72
Aug 20th, 2007
10:07:11 PM
I can't afford a Blue Ray DVD or a HD-DVD palyer at the moment, and even if I could, I still have a piece of shit TV that would not do the disc justice, (DVD's look pretty shit on it at the moment). By the time I could afford them, players will be cheap enough to have both players in the lounge room, and the disc will be bargain basement prices. As long as the studios that support BOTH formats release the SAME features on both formats, I could not care less.
I hope HD-DVD does win. I own them both here's my take
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Aug 20th, 2007
10:09:02 PM
I have no bias. I do not work in the film industry. I am simply put a fan of movies. That's it. It ends there for me and my association with film.

I also own both an HD-DVD player and a PS3. Without a doubt HD-DVD blows away the Blu-Ray in every area. Be it more features, the codec it's used since the beginning that Blu-Ray has now RECENTLY adopted to be on par with picture quality. But the most important thing where HD-DVD shines is the quality of available films vs Blu-Ray. I could give a rats ass about movies like POTC being exclusive to Blu-Ray when I am able to get movies like Casablanca which is ONLY on HD-DVD. There are so many more that to name them all would make me a whore for taking up so much space on this TB. Do the research yourself. Compare the HD-DVD releases to the Blu-Ray and answer honestly, which movies if you had to pick would you like in your collection that are exclusive. The answer is easy unless you truly love shitty movies.

Now with this new news about Paramount it looks like Harry and the rest of us who said HD-DVD was and is the better format are having a last laugh at all you Blu-Ray fanboys. That's HUGE kick in the scrot for Blu-Ray.

I only 4 Blu-Ray movies folks VS 30 HD-DVD titles. Not because I can't afford to buy more Blu-Rays but because again most of the movies on that format suck ass. In addition if I have a choice between buying an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray for dual releases it's easy hands down the HD-DVD release. 300 is a PERFECT example of why HD-DVD is by far the superior product.

Way to go Harry in predicting this a few months back.

And as far as why I bought a PS3? Well I got a 20gig one for $300.00 so why not at that price? I mean there will be a few exclusives on Blu-Ray that I'll want and fuck it, I got the disposable income to blow and prefer to have my movies in HD vs SD.
Why so much hate for Sony? Microsoft is no better.
by FookU
Aug 20th, 2007
10:13:47 PM
I don't get the massive hate directed at Sony when Microsoft is just as bad. They want to own all digital markets and they will because people are too stupid to see what they are up to. So go buy a PC with Vista and get and XBOX360, a Zune and a PocketPC. The OS market has matured and they are trying to find other ways of overtaking markets whether it be gaming consoles, mp3 players and yes even xbox live downloads. They are doing the same thing they did in the PC industry years ago and the sheep are gonna let them right in.
And lynxpro and the rest of you calling Harry a shill
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Aug 20th, 2007
10:15:48 PM
Are a bunch of fucking retards. You ever meet Harry asshole? I have. Nicest guy in the world and by far if you've met him and talked to him you would realize your statement is total garbage. Harry does this site for the love of film. That's it. He makes enough to get by. He's not pimping HD-DVD because he's getting paid you fucking moron. He's pimping it because IT'S BETTER! That's it. End of story. No shilling. Sure he likes some stuff I cannot stand, Eli Roth being one of them (sorry Harry). That does not make him a shill does it? Just means he has some bad taste IMO on certain things and he likes what he likes. But this whole HD-DVD thing is based on facts. I've listed a lot of them in the other post I made. So seriously, you idiots who keep on trumping that shill angle... let it go. It makes you sound retarded.

And don't be mad Harry at my bust on Eli. I am just not a fan. We can agree to disagree ;-)
BSB IS THE NEW POUND SAND.
by Pennsy
Aug 20th, 2007
10:19:28 PM
I miss the Pounder, though.
Blu-ray actually uses the best codec...
by lynxpro
Aug 20th, 2007
10:23:16 PM
While both formats support all three of the same video codecs (MPEG2, VC-1, AVC H.264 MPEG4) only Blu-ray has the large number of movies encoded in AVC. Just about every Disney and Sony studio release is in AVC. AVC is better than Microsoft's VC-1 at the same exact bit rate. Blu-ray's maximum transfer rate per second is twice that of HD DVD so it can seriously pump out the best picture and uncompressed sound unlike HD DVD. Of course, with the phony support that Paramount formerly gave along side Warner Bros., both studios used the same encoding process for both of their HD DVD and Blu-ray releases so their Blu-ray releases were unable to show off the true power of the format. If anyone actually thinks Microsoft will allow any studio to release an HD DVD title encoded using AVC, think again. Now, is it true that the older Blu-ray releases used MPEG2? Yes, because Sony doesn't like paying Microsoft royalties, and if the transfer is decent and the bit rate is kicked up, then there's no reason MPEG2 can't look just as good - if not better - than VC-1. VC-1 shines on weak/cheap decoder chips whereas AVC takes a lot of muscle to decode. That's why computers that had chips before say an Intel Core Duo didn't decode the format well. As for the web features of HD DVD, I think they are crap. Give me higher quality bit rates over temporary web content that will be pulled offline in a year. I think people learned from such gimmicks in the early part of DVD; I guess not. I have my fingers crossed that Sir Ridley Scott will impress upon Warner's to release the Blu-ray Blade Runner versions encoded in AVC.
AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
by lynxpro
Aug 20th, 2007
10:28:53 PM
Hey wanker, if Harry "loved" film so much then he would own both formats, or at least support the superior platform. HD DVD is not better than Blu-ray, period. Do yourself a favor and read up on the specs of both formats and then come back and say HD DVD is better. Its not. It does not have the scratch resistant properties of the disc coating like Blu-ray does and that is very important when you rent discs from the likes of NetFlix and Blockbuster. HD DVD does not aggressively support the AVC codec which is the best video presentation quality for any film. HD DVD does not have the total storage capacity that Blu-ray has; nor does it have enough space to support uncompressed audio like Blu-ray does. All of those items are important for true film fans. The shilling charge stands.
cobb1138
by lynxpro
Aug 20th, 2007
10:46:30 PM
Toshiba wasn't the sole inventor of DVD. Toshiba AND Time Warner via Warner Home Video hold most of the patents to DVD. Sony was also another contributor to that patent portfolio. Both Toshiba and Time Warner would like to see their profits gained from that patent portfolio carried over to the successor technology, which is HD DVD. Most of the rest of the consumer electronics industry got tired of paying to line the pockets of these two companies and so they backed Blu-ray. So with practically Toshiba being the only hardware manufacturer making HD DVD units, who'd they turn to subsidize their losses? Yep, you guessed it, Microsoft. Wanna know how? Look at the preferred video codec that HD DVD supports. Is it an industry standard like MPEG2 was or MPEG4 is turning out to be? Nope, the codec of choice is Microsoft's own VC-1, also known as Windows Media 9. In terms of platform software, who did Toshiba go with to provide HD DVD's interactivity? Did they use a modified version of the industry standard Java? Nope...they went with Microsoft's iHD/HDi/whatever their calling the software this month. Who makes the Zune for Microsoft? Toshiba...and guess what Toshiba had to do for that? Reduce their support for their existing MP3 portable player the Gigabeat, which also used Microsoft software. Who makes the HD DVD add-on drive for Microsoft's Xbox360? Toshiba...until Microsoft finds a cheaper supplier. To borrow a term from the old commie playbook, Microsoft sees Toshiba as its latest "useful idiot". If Microsoft has to spend $1 billion from their $60 billion war chest to prop up a company like Toshiba in order to hurt Sony's finances, they will. If you want to talk to other companies who were former Microsoft "useful idiots", go talk to Sega or Sendo. The Sega Dreamcast was the proto-Xbox, and consequently, Sega no longer is a hardware manufacturer. There's a lesson to be learned climbing into bed with the pencil-necked Beast of Redmond.
lynxpro wow you are so misinformed.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Aug 20th, 2007
10:50:01 PM
Are you fucking kidding me? Blu-Ray uses the best Codec??? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Blu-Ray just adopted the SAME codec that has been used by HD-DVD on their most recent releases. Do you want to know why? Well it's because the codec they were using was an older MPEG2 codec that looked like shit on Blu-Ray movies. Fifth Element anyone? You really look like a tool right now and any argument you were trying to make in defense of Blu-Ray just went into the toliet with that one statement of Blu-Ray and their codecs. Holy shit dude you are dumber then paint.

And as far as uncompressed audio. Wow man. The Matrix box set on HD-DVD offers uncompressed True HD audio tracks. You really have no fucking idea what you are talking about lol!
M$ wants both to fail, so they can push downloads
by captain_sulu
Aug 20th, 2007
10:54:05 PM
this is anything but good. only reason this is happening is microsoft wants to prolong this fight until they can sort out HD downloads, which you won't be able to resell/lend/borrow/etc. fuck microsoft and DRM laden files. at least with a physical disk you can do whatever with it. we all lose in the end.
ricarleite
by lynxpro
Aug 20th, 2007
10:54:17 PM
Get your facts straight. Blu-ray is not proprietary, and in fact, has more hardware support than HD DVD. You cite Sony's format failures. Funny, I seem to recall the CD being very successful. They also had a hand with DVD, and that has been a stellar success. Ever heard of the 3.5" floppy disc? Yep, Sony did that. As for Betamax, yes it did ultimately fail in the consumer marketplace but its been the standard for tv studios since the late 70s. There's even DigiBeta which the BBC uses to shoot *Doctor Who* on. That's a Sony product. If you count the PS1 and the PS2 as their own formats, they've been rather successful. And even with their missteps, at least they've been quality, unlike say Microsoft's Bob, WindowsME, UltimateTV, the Zune, etc.