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AICN COMICS! WW CHICAGO CON REPORT! Q & @ WITH A TRIO OF TRANSFORMERS CREATORS! RIP MIKE WIERINGO! Oh...and some reviews!

I'm shocked and saddened. by DallasGoodbar	Aug 15th, 2007 09:09:39 AM
I loved Mike Wieringo's work for years. He was a talented guy and from what I read willing to share his techniques with others. He will be missed.
First by SpencerTrilby	Aug 15th, 2007 09:11:38 AM
I'm not supposed to be here, but still...
Oh fuck, there was an obit in this article? by SpencerTrilby	Aug 15th, 2007 09:12:49 AM
Sorry if I pissed some Mike Wieringo's fans. I should've read first. My bad.
Scrollover is Ouch in WW Chicago Text by Squashua	Aug 15th, 2007 09:13:46 AM
All the WW Chicago recap stuff blinks out when you scroll over it. At least, it does in Firefox.
A talented artist.. very sad. by zaggnutt	Aug 15th, 2007 09:43:05 AM
I cherish those issues of Flash. Rest in peace, Mike.
RIP Mike Wieringo by CarmillaVonDoom	Aug 15th, 2007 09:48:43 AM
He was a hell of an artist! What an unpleasant surprise to wake up to. Very, very decent guy.
All-Star Batgitl on HOLD?!?!? by CarmillaVonDoom	Aug 15th, 2007 09:49:44 AM
Arrgh can this day get any worse. Wish I coulda gone to WWC. But WWT in Austin will be a blast...any of you guys going down there???
Oh thanks a lot, Humphrey! by Thalya	Aug 15th, 2007 09:57:36 AM
Ever consider things from the single geek girl's p-o-v? How am I ever going to pick up a nice man-geek with the advice you're throwing around in that last point of yours? What, am I going to have to go all booth babe or Suicide Girl now? I may as well let my desperation fly, go as Power Girl and get it over with. Although I do agree with you: alphabetization > sale prices, except in the case of quarter bins.
Only 44? by Shigeru	Aug 15th, 2007 09:59:13 AM
Jeez that's a shame. Seemed like a great guy and was a talented artist. In other news, Mike Kunkel on a kid's Shazam book makes me HAPPY.
Shoot The Messenger should be retitled... by Sledge Hammer	Aug 15th, 2007 10:06:20 AM
...stuff we cribbed from Newsarama's con coverage. I mean seriously, I know the news is the news, but that read like a shopping list of exactly what's been posted over at 'rama over the past week or so. And for "we've since learned" read "we have since read on Newsarama that...", passing things off as if you personally found them out, when you've clearly taken them from another site, not so cool. Oh, and using the fucking marquee code for scrolling text, that may have seemed cool for about five minutes to a bunch of 12 year olds building their first website pages back in 1996, but now? Jesus...it's about as useful as writing an op ed piece on convention etiquette after the fucking convention is over... On the upside, nice interview, the Captain Britain and Union Jack busts look very cool (the 'comedy' bit, yeah, not so much, sorry), the reviews solid (even if I don't agree with a lot you guys say), and the opinion on the Dark Knight footage interesting, even if it is basically (and by necessity) going over the same stuff that everyone else who talked about the screened footage talked about. Finally, nice obit for Mike Wieringo, someone the industry, comic fans, and his friends and loved ones lost way too soon.
Thanks, Sledge... by Ambush Bug	Aug 15th, 2007 10:12:23 AM
Your positivity is infectious. Keep on, keeping on with that, I hate everything attitude, guy-that's-too-cool-for-the-ro om-but-for-some-reason-is-stil l-in-it.
Gotta love the pokemon reference by evolution1085	Aug 15th, 2007 10:23:39 AM
Anytime you can work an ash/team rocket analogy into a review, its all golden in my book
this was a mishmash by Bloo	Aug 15th, 2007 10:31:37 AM
first of all my thoughts and prayers to Mike Wieringo's family and friends. His artwork amazing and it seems like he was a genuine real deal person I've always wanted to attend a convention but have never gotten around to it since I'm not a hard core collector of anything, I've always just wanted to go for the atmospher and whatnot, it sounds like chiago is a bust then, should I be saving up my nickels and dimes for ComiCon in SD? on a compeltely unrealted side not, I was just thinking last night for some reason about the old Bob Newhart show where he played a comic book creator called Bob, I think the show was called Bob, I don't know why I was thinking about that but I was
Wieringo by GiveMeAnFinBreak	Aug 15th, 2007 11:04:35 AM
When I used to collect heavily, back in the late 90's, Wieringo was one of my favorite artists. His work jumped off the page. It was like a catchy piece of music or something. You couldn't take your eyes off it. Damn shame. He had at least a few great years still in front of him.
I don't read Newsarama by rev_skarekroe	Aug 15th, 2007 11:05:58 AM
Suck on that, sledge.
For all you Mike Wieringo fans by Mr Incredible	Aug 15th, 2007 11:08:47 AM
Pick up Modern Masters Volume 9: Mike Wieringo. Great interview, insight, and artwork on the man.
Godspeed, M.W. by dead youngling	Aug 15th, 2007 11:20:37 AM
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Wieringo's first Flash issue was the first I ever read by Steve Rogers	Aug 15th, 2007 11:27:05 AM
And I thought it was awesome, and was hooked in not only for the rest of his run but the rest of Mark Waid's too (and that was some run). His style only improved over the years, and the recent Spidey/FF series was an absolute joy to read. RIP Mr Wieringo.
those scrolling titles by conbarba	Aug 15th, 2007 11:54:36 AM
are a pain in the ass and slow reading a lot. Great loss, Wieringo.
Humphrey by RenoNevada2000	Aug 15th, 2007 11:55:32 AM
I remember way back giving the same lecture about meeting girls at a con to one of my friends as we drove acroos Jersey to a con in NYC. A few hours later, I wound up scoring a cute chick's phone number and we wound up dating for about nine months. Still haven't heard the end of it from my friend.
Oh, come on, Sledge. by SleazyG.	Aug 15th, 2007 12:06:37 PM
Look: the truth is, we don't have the pull get an Alex Ross exclusive interview the same day an announcement is made. I wish we did, but we just don't. So what were our two choices? Well, we could either say "a new Ross project was announced but we have no further details". But if we do that, we get jumped on by people saying "everybody's known what that project is for days! Get with the program! You guys suck!" Alternately, we can say that we've since learned what the project is, which is true: we have learned it, and so have you, and so has anybody else who hits the news sites. It's true, it's legitimate, it's accurate. I read it on two different sites which both have a lot more pull than us. Since at this point it's public knowledge, do we need to list them as sources? Not really. Sorry if you didn't like the way it worked out, but look at it this way: how long does a news story have to run round the blogosphere before we consider it public knowledge? Newsarama and comicbookresources had this story up three or four days ago. It's hardly a secret. Hell, the fact you already knew about it before we said anything tells you all you need to know: it' obviously public knowledge. In closing, let me just reiterate something Rev_Skarekroe said above: not everybody who reads our site hits Newsarama and comicbookresources. We're servicing a different audience for two reasons. First, we reach a lot of people who come to AICN for the movie and TV stories and aren't regular comic site readers. If we don't mention some of this stuff, they don't know about it. Second, we exist to provide reviews and opinions and aren't a daily news source like those other sites. We have a different type of content provided in a different manner. Maybe it's not exactly what you were looking for or expecting, but that's where we're coming from.
R.I.P. Mike by Geddlee	Aug 15th, 2007 12:09:05 PM
I posted the below this morning on my DA page... I have answered a ton of emails about this already this morning, so please forgive me not being able to say something new or insightful... Not much more I can say about this tragic thing; it makes me want to cry... 'Just got the news about Mike Wieringo... I am in shock right now. I talked with Mike just last week about working on this sketch card set I have had going for a while now... Mike was always super nice, and as an inker, was a complete pleasure for me to ink. I consider myself privileged that I got to ink the few pieces I did over him; some of what I consider to be my best stuff-more because of his pencils than my inks. Besides his ridiculous level of talent, Mike was a good guy, with a word of advice to many young artists- I watched how he interacted with lots of kids at HeroesCon, and they all seemed to come away with something good for the future. I am just shocked and saddened; my prayers are with Mike's family and friends. We lost a great one.' Mark Irwin
Wieringo by waggy	Aug 15th, 2007 12:35:34 PM
He's been one of my favorite artists since I first saw his work when he began his run on Sensational Spider-man. For me he's second only to Bagley when it comes to definitive Spidey artists from the years since I started reading comics, and I'm sure if Bagely had turned down Ultimate Spider-man, Mike would have been the next logical choice. His run on Fantastic Four with Mark Waid was always at the top of my reading pile, and was the most I ever enjoyed that particular book. Never really saw much of his DC or creator owned work, as i grew up a Marvel reader, but i'm sure Flash and Tellos will find their way into my trade collection in the not too distant future. For now it seems oddly appropriate that his last work be Spider-man/Fantastic Four, a book starring the characters he left the biggest impression on for me. I missed that title's initial release but i eagerly await digging into the trade and taking some time to enjoy the man's stunning artwork one last time.
RIP Mike +Image tribute book by EdRyder	Aug 15th, 2007 12:43:25 PM
Mike Hawthorn, Eric Stephenson, and David Williams are planning a tribute book.With all the proceeds going to The American Heart Association and the ASPCA. If you have any con images-shoot any of these guys an email.
Goin' Zom by mattb127	Aug 15th, 2007 12:43:38 PM
I feel insensitive talking about World War Hulk with Wieringo's passing--what a tragedy. Jeez, the guy was 44??? I thought his work on Flash was fantastic. I do have to say something about the review here of the hulk books... I was more excited than I have ever been when this story arc began. And I have to say that now, the core title Incredible Hulk is almost unreadable. It's painful to read. What the hell is going on in that book? There's a little kid with a coyote in his pocket and Hercules is there? It's called, "The Incredible Hulk." Also, in case nobody's noticed, there's something kinda big going on with the Hulk. So, uh, where's the hulk? Isn't he supposed to be in "The Incredible Hulk?" Instead of a bunch of dumb characters I could care less about? It's been three issues now. Probably there should be some hulk in it now, instead of marketing for a series I definitely won't read. In Front line, some big rock guy is solving a mystery I don't care about. And in World War Hulk...uh, "Strange Smash?" there's NO mention of this? WTF? Uh, his head's on fire and he has drills for hands. Yeah, I know it's Zom. But it's dumb. Also, I know Hulk is gonna make everybody fight to the death in his big arena. Get on with it. I bought the ticket to watch Hulk kill people. But if you're not going to do that (even though it's COMPLETELY within his character to do that), then get on with it already. Less kids with coyotes and guys who walk around with guitars strapped to their back so I know who they are.
Marvel by Kree42	Aug 15th, 2007 01:13:34 PM
For the love of Jack Kirby somebody fire Joe Q. I cannot stand the guy from a pro level not personel ,he is a total hack and it seems the luckiest guy in comics, how was he quailified to become eic? He was a fair artist when he started at DC and his Daredeil run with Kevin Smith was ok ,but an editor in chief no less? I just dont get it. Will miss 'Ringo a definite hole is left by his passing.
I generally browse CBR and Newsarama by Squashua	Aug 15th, 2007 01:21:11 PM
and I post there too, but I don't generally write our news posts, nor do I chat at-length with the other @$$holes; mostly because I am too busy also generally browsing 4chan and redtube.
Girls at Cons by ravenclaw	Aug 15th, 2007 01:40:52 PM
Humphrey, I'm absolutely certain you're rules to girls apply to all the other Cons, but thank God for San Diego. I would wager that a good 1/4 of the attendance were female. Not to mention that there were quite a number of cute single girls and quite a number of groups of girls. Though half of them were probably still in high school. Blame it all on the Hollywoodization of the Con. Though, you still have to be half-way good looking to even have a shot at any of them, but hey they make great eye candy. But please people, quit staring at them when you're walking down the aisles. You wouldn't believe how many times I've been run over because of that.
'Ringo has breached The Source Wall... by -=Shin=-	Aug 15th, 2007 02:18:52 PM
Mike once drew an issue of the FF with the team meeting God, who was drawn as Jack Kirby. I've always loved that concept in comics. Take care and my sympathies to his family, friends and all of us fans. We lost someone who gave us fans so many of us smiles. All of us fans are indebted to him.
re: STRANGE SMASH by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 15th, 2007 02:24:22 PM
I did mention it, I just didn't quote it. As a reviewer, I always try to walk that fine line between reviewage and spoilage. If its something most people care less about (read: FRONTLINE) then I don't care. In this case, I thought it was so cool (a tad Velveeta-flavored, but cool) ending that I opted not to spoil it. Now, won't everyone join me in a chorus of "Garden Party" by Ricky Nelson? also, though we seem to be on the same page for alot, if you bought your ticket hoping to see Hulk kill any Marvel heroes, you might as well get in the line for a refund. I seriously doubt it's going to happen, bro.
Hey ravenclaw.. by Thalya	Aug 15th, 2007 02:45:20 PM
Just wondering, if you were/are single, what would you do if you saw a girl at a Con wearing a t-shirt that read: Yo fanboys! Single. Looking. Has a hamster named Cheeks the Toy Wonder. 'nuff said.
Rock-me Amodeo (and a minor spolier) by mattb127	Aug 15th, 2007 03:05:15 PM
Uh, you mean like that whole "Hulk at Cosmic War" thing we just watched, where hulk didn't kill anyone at all and also there was a global genocide? I know, before I say this, everybody's gonna go, "It's a comic book, duuuude! Nothin's real!" Yeah, I know. I don't go out every morning looking for Green Lantern to show up in the sky. But from a narrative sense, from a character point of view--does this REALLY make any sense? WITHIN THE RULES OF ITS OWN STORY, does it make sense? Even in the hulk's own book––which sucks SO hard it makes me think you're on Joe Q's payroll––even in that book, when the hulk does actually show up, after three meaningless issues, he says he's perfectly capable of killing. Except he ain't doin' it. I could mention Thunderbolt Ross here, and what happens to him, but I don't want to "ruin" it for everyone. But does that REALLY make sense? In the confines of the story it's set out to tell, does it make sense? I'm not a fan of meaningless death in comics, or death to sell issues or make variants out of, or senseless rapes and tortures of B-list elastic characters' wives––but if you set up a story where the point is that the guy's coming to kill everyone, and then he don't kill nobody, what the heck did you do it for? It's like watching "Unforgiven," except at the end Will Munny goes home and makes pinatas with his kids instead of getting his. Would that have been a better ending, from your point of view? Also, could you please comment on the suckage that is the Incredible Hulk's flagship title? Uh, where's the hulk? And why does it star a little kid with a pocket coyote, Warren Worthington, and Namorita? What hole did they pull those characters out of, and for what? AAGAGHGH!!!!
R.I.P. Mike, and R.I.P. ANT MAN by LaserPants	Aug 15th, 2007 03:35:28 PM
Not only did we lose a great artist, but were losing a great comic with lots of potential -- Ant Man was cancelled. ;-(
I Like WWHULK, But Expected Something More Apocalyptic by LaserPants	Aug 15th, 2007 03:42:38 PM
Attacking Manhattan and taking down the Avengers is pretty bad ass, but I thought we were talking about a World War? Doesn't that imply a global scale conflict? So far it seems more or less reserved to New York State.
I'm not saying it's out of character... by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 15th, 2007 03:49:52 PM
I'm just saying that I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think that the Hulk is going to kill anyone Marvel hero or villian that has any kind of continuity going back more than 18 months. That possibly puts Cho on the blocks as a tragic death, but even if that happens, it will be a "tragic, senseless death" for which the Hulk will be only indirectly responsible. Because that is the way things work. Would it make sense to have the Hulk off a few people? Of course. It's just not going to happen. As for THE INCREDIBLE HULK, I hated "A tale of Two sidekicks" and half expected to see the ghosts of Jarella and Betty Ross in a hair-pulling contest if they hadn't already scheduled the Renegades setup. That said, I believe I DID comment that I didn't care for roughly half of the book. that doesn't mean the whole thing sucked. Out of 22 plot-carrying pages, Hulk was in almost half. There's your Hulk, and I thought that part was good stuff. I gave my opinion, you have yours and that's fine. Don't bitch at me just because I'm not parroting you. Joe Q doesn't pay me enough to...oops, did I say that out loud? br>Also, at some point, I think the little kid stops carrying coyote and starts packing PEYOTE, which should make things more interesting. Don't quote me.
re: Laserpants and WW Hulk by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 15th, 2007 04:00:46 PM
yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Maybe they meant the whole MARVEL world? Of course, if he pulls this off, the Hulk could go logistically global - at least according to Sinatra. Because in New York, New York, if you can...make it there, you can make it...anywhere...
WWH ain't done yet by rev_skarekroe	Aug 15th, 2007 04:15:11 PM
There's still a possibility he'll go someplace else. It could happen!!
World War Hulk by BetaRayBill07	Aug 15th, 2007 04:18:14 PM
Ok yeah I agree something more earth shattering was expected. I really hope this ends well- gee we've seen Iron Man with his Hulkbuster Armor get trounced- saw that coming even before Saakar was toast. Then we saw Hulk beat Ben Grimm to a pulp for the 37th time in Marvel history. Sentry? Can we get on with this, please? Sentry will show up at the end of #4 we know thats coming. But what or rather how is this gonna be resolved? Hulk and Warbound pack up and ship out back to Saakar? "Ha look what we did to Manhattan! Have fun cleaning up!"? You know everyone major will survive this, save Tony Stark's ability to....walk, drink, whatever- who cares. And why do I have the feeling still that Betty Ross is just waiting in the wings somehow?
WWHulk by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 15th, 2007 04:23:15 PM
As long as it goes SOMEPLACE. You know, I really am curious how this will resolve. On one hand, I know what I know about things marvel generally will and will not do with their flagship characters. On the other hand, as Matt pointed out, we've been promised more than just mayhem - we've been lead to believe that a blood-debt will be collected. And lots of people are clamoring for that. How will they pull off an ending that doesn't turn the Hulk into an earth-side killer and yet doesn't kill his readership who feel that step is (perhaps rightly so) justified? Or at least in character? THAT resolution is what I'm really waiting for.
Shocked by jsm1978	Aug 15th, 2007 04:30:09 PM
I was shocked when I saw the RIP in the headlines. I really loved his work on Spiderman. Hopefully his family is well...
A Hamster named Cheeks the Toy Wonder? by Squashua	Aug 15th, 2007 04:32:16 PM
I'd ask her if she'd like me to make her yell "Arg! lyle!" in one of the bathroom stalls. Maybe.
My hatred of Amadeus Cho by mattb127	Aug 15th, 2007 04:35:15 PM
I apologize, Rock-me. It's just my hatred of that Amadeus Cho character is so...profound... it sometimes clouds my vision. They could end this any number of ways and it would be great. I mean, come on, it's not like anyone's really gonna die. I just think it's entirely reasonable to expect some death in this story. I think it's entirely reasonable to have the hulk transformed into a villain through his experiences. And I think he's a formidable villain who would make an interesting universe.
Wow, that was... by Wilclas	Aug 15th, 2007 04:39:44 PM
..a lot of text.
RIP Mike Wieringo by Big Dumb Ape	Aug 15th, 2007 04:46:03 PM
To hear of anyone passing at such a ripe prime age as 44 is always a truly sad thing. Personally, at a time when I think comics are getting more and more hack-like and exceedingly average, just pounding out for the purpose of one marketing stunt after another, I always thought Mike Wieringo's work had a distinct sense of flavor and fun. You could pick up one of his books and just see that the guy cared about what he was doing. So my condolenses to his family, friends and loved ones. And it's a sad day for comics as there's no doubt that the medium lost a genuine voice and talent who actually had "it."
1st intro'd to Wieringo by a WIZARD "How to Draw" thing by George Newman	Aug 15th, 2007 04:57:20 PM
I thought his art was fantastic, although I have always prefered his sketch/pencil work over the finished crisp colored and inked art of the published work. I always got the feeling that his inkers simplified the texturing and detail on his drawings.
WWH Vs Marvel's Other Recent Stunts by Jinxo	Aug 15th, 2007 04:58:30 PM
Here's the problem. Marvel promises Hulk bludgeoning to death some heroic wieners who everybody wants to see bludgeoned to death. A decade ago with an event like this, going in you would have said, yeah, but he won't really kill anyone major. Because that's how it works. Maybe you get lucky and he'd kill a B-lister or temporarily cripple someone. But this isn't a decade ago. Marvel has been living lately on their willingness to mess with the status quo in major ways. We unmasked Spidey! We had a Civil War that changed the basics of the Marvel Universe! We killed Captain America! We unkilled Captain Marvel! Regardless of whether these were good or bad ideas (I'd say mostly bad) they went there. No making promises and then chickening out. This isn' a decade ago. This is a time where Marvel itself has basically said, hey, we'll put our money where our mouth is. So if WWH pussies out on its promises, at this point in time it'll be harder to forgive. Hey Marvel, you set how high the bar is yourself. Got no one else to blame. You better be vaulting OVER that bar with WWH, not limboing under it.
Arg! yle was an evil sock.. by Thalya	Aug 15th, 2007 05:17:47 PM
...who rolled AB into a sock-ball as revenge for abandonment. I take it you're into sock-balling, Squash?
More WWHulk by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 15th, 2007 05:45:48 PM
no worries, Matt. And Jinxo, you're right (like you need ME telling you that) it's not the same as a decade ago. I THINK marvel knows they need to shake things up. Will Hulk cross the line? That would be uncharted territory, and long overdue for a "monster." Of course, Wolverine was slicing and dicing his way through LEGIONS of good guys and how did he get away with that again? Possessed by the Hand? Riiiiggghtt...I'm gonna use that excuse someday. "No, honey, it wasn't me at that bar with the girl. Okay, it was me, but I was possessed by the Hand! Yeah! No? Okay, it wasn't me. It was a skrull..."
... by blackthought	Aug 15th, 2007 07:34:45 PM
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One of the best for sure. by alienindisguise	Aug 15th, 2007 07:45:14 PM
As one of my favorites and a great inspiration to me as an artist, Mike will be missed greatly.
Civil War/Hatemonger by Mr Squirrel	Aug 15th, 2007 07:48:25 PM
I haven't been reading, but am curious as to whether they've revealed any funky reasons (I heard something about Skrulls?) yet as to why everyone was acting stupid? Or have they put it down to the not unreasonable 'Hey, this is the Marvel Universe - people sort out their differences with repulser rays and magic hammers, friends or not'?
Well said jinxo by mattb127	Aug 15th, 2007 08:00:22 PM
The crazy thing is...I LIKED Civil War. I wasn't too sure about Spidey unmasking himself-- I think that's a bell they'll spend the next ten years unringing--but Civil War, for all its flaws, had some real guts. AND they offed Captain America at the end of it. WWH business was like a nice palate cleanser, when Tony Stark's quaint and monomaniacal ideas about order and control face off against a galactic helping of total chaos. THAT's what I paid to see: total, total, total chaos. Instead it's like we're back in 1978, and there's this b.s. morality to the hulk that isn't even really morality, just good for the comics code. I'm also shocked at the sloppiness of the whole thing. It's a mess. It's a total editorial mess. Also, the Sentry thing is totally dumb. They should just get rid of that character. That can be who hulk kills, so everyone knows he means business.
Hey Humph, give us some credit by Bagheera	Aug 15th, 2007 08:08:46 PM
I can think of a few reasons to attend a con other than for a boyfriend or some cash. And we're plaguing the con, are we? Perhaps I'll make it my duty to inform other girls that we're not wanted.
Looks Like The WWH Gladiator Battles Are Next, Right? by LaserPants	Aug 15th, 2007 09:15:49 PM
That should be fun! Watching the HULK force the Illuminati and whoever else battling it out to the "death." Maybe something totally life-destroying will be Stark being crippled and therefore confined to the armor for life. That would be pretty dark. (Btw, I actually like IRON MAN as a character even though he's a total prick, theres something cool about being techno-morehumanthanhuman battle suit wearing rich dude / hero / fascist to me). But anyway it goes, whatever happens, its gotta get to a satisfying conclusion. I liked CIVIL WAR, but that ending was limp. Lame! But THE CONFESSION was cool, as was CAP #25. (Sniff, Sob, Choke!) But yeah, the WWHulk better build up to a kickass, or at least satisifyingly cool, finale. No lame outs! MAKE IT HURT! ITS THE GODDAMN WORLD WAR HULK!!! Make me feel it.
Girls at cons... by ErnieAnderson	Aug 15th, 2007 10:07:30 PM
Not all of 'em are with their boyfriend or paid to be there. I picked up a GORGEOUS gal at Wizard World Dallas when my buddy (a better looking guy with so little game it's pitiful) couldn't manage to talk to her at his booth. However, couth is important. Be nice to the wimmins, and they'll be nice to you. Charm is important, and so is hygeine.
Sock balling isn't for everyone by Squashua	Aug 15th, 2007 10:13:21 PM
but it can be, if you're into it.
Bendis' run controversial???? by messi	Aug 15th, 2007 11:14:42 PM
what the fuck? most people are saying it's the greatest run of daredevil ever, even better than Miller's legendary run.
RIPs on this site, serious comment, A$$HOLES take note by tiredpm	Aug 15th, 2007 11:34:05 PM
Moriarty wouldn't have thrown the death of Bergman at the bottom of a Superbad review. I think the death of comic creators should be given the same gravity. This site was one of the few places I saw mark the death of Jim Aparo, the man who (along with Breyfogle) introduced Batman to me as more than just a TV character. I was devastated to hear of his death. The people who work on comic books have an impact on the readers of this site, even tangentially. They deserve the respect given to film and TV icons. They should NOT and 'm going to space this out to make it clear They should not have their death's marked as such: AICN COMICS! WW CHICAGO CON REPORT! Q & @ WITH A TRIO OF TRANSFORMERS CREATORS! RIP MIKE WIERINGO! Oh...and some reviews! That's piss poor. SHOW THE MAN AND HIS FAMILY MORE RESPECT THAN THAT. An exclamation point?! Seriously? You're all better than that. PROVE IT. And if you can't convince the owners of this site to do better, go elsewhere where the medium you cover and its contributors will be given more respect. I'll follow you, and I'll respect you more for taking a stance. This was a terrible low point for this column.
Sorry for poor spelling and typos by tiredpm	Aug 15th, 2007 11:35:35 PM
But this is one of the few posts I've put up where I've been so angry I've had a hard time typing.
tiredpm by Satans Pool Boy	Aug 16th, 2007 02:17:14 AM
I agree completely. The whole thing is just ... tacky.
SleazyG, my point was... by Sledge Hammer	Aug 16th, 2007 03:48:19 AM
...that you should have credited Newsarama with scoring that piece of news, which you repeated here, if you had done that then I would have had no problem at all with all that. Thanks for the response though. Oh, and Ambush Bug, nice response, especially since I wasn't negative about everything at all, just a couple of things that I thought were legitimate points. You're just the comeback king aren't you? And I'm sure your dad could beat up my dad too...
Wieringo was great! by DuncanHines	Aug 16th, 2007 07:02:26 AM
I think my first exposure to his work was when he was drawing Adventures Of Superman a few years back. A particularly sad and ironic thing of note is that in the Flash: The Greatest Stories Ever Told book that dropped this week, the only Flash story published after the 1970s is "Out Of Time" By Mark Waid and Mike Wieringo. According to Mark Waid in his introduction, "...to showcase the artwork of Mike Wieringo, a most deserving comics superstar whose interpretation of Wally as the Flash set a standard unsurpassed to this day." Awesome artist. A sad day indeed.
In a happy little world... by Ambush Bug	Aug 16th, 2007 08:31:28 AM
There would be an AICN comics column each and every day. And lollipops would rain fro the sky... But the world isn't a happy place. We agree Mike's death is a sad, sad thing. And gave it the spot that usually is reserved for the Cheap Shots section in order to give it weight and resonance, which an obit should. Had we sandwiched in Mike's RIP in between a con report and a smut-laden review for Housewives at Play, I'd agree with you. But given the fact that we function as a seperate entity on AICN and only post our column weekly, we felt it was better to post it at the bottom than not at all. We look at our column as more of an online magazine rather than a series of short posts. You wouldn't see a newspaper publish an obit section by itself, would you? We try to cover as much as we possibly can at AICN Comics, but given the fact that AICN proper is a movie and tv news site and we only have everything in the world of comics to cover in a weekly column, we can't do it all. And Sledge, I am the King of Comebacks, and sus my pop is tough, but I will answer your criticism with sincerity this time: I just want to ask one question... Do you think... That when representatives from two websites... go to the same place... where a series of panels are presented... offering a certain (and limited) amount of information... that maybe... just maybe... the information reported would look a little similar. I acknowledged in the intro that not only was this a scattershot column with a mishmash of info and things that we normally don't do (such as con reports, news bits, and the like), but that this news has been reported on other sites much earlier in the week. Am I to make shit up because you've read it at Newsarama or comic book resources or whatever? Does the New York Times accuse the New York Post of copying their news when they run stories on the same piece of news? I looked at Newsarama's stuff and although the info is similar, the commentary I provided is not. Your complaints aren't really valid when you look at the stories side by side and consider that it was just a bunch of newsbits, gathered from the same place, by two different sites.
and one more thing... by Ambush Bug	Aug 16th, 2007 08:35:13 AM
If you didn't like the con reports or the news bits, fear not, next week we will return to our regular format with only reviews and the occasional interview. Although I may think about doing a weekly news recap if the TBs want me to and also just to piss Sledge off. And I know Mike Wieringo's death hit everyone hard, but there's no need to lash out at folks. Or at least lash out at folks that deserve it... Like ron zimmerman and chuck austin...
both of you should pull yer panties out of yer cracks by Shigeru	Aug 16th, 2007 09:36:27 AM

UM by Shigeru	Aug 16th, 2007 09:37:21 AM
Didn't the Hulk kill like a metric shit-ton of US soldiers in WWH #3?? Does that not count?
To the people that feel like Mike Wieringo's... by DuncanHines	Aug 16th, 2007 10:22:30 AM
To the people that feel like Mike Wieringo's passing is cheapened in this column, read above. Like, to the top of the talkback. It's pretty much THE comics news this week. The guy was great. His art was (IS) incredible. From what I've heard from friends, he was an all-around swell guy. This is what everyone who knows anything about comics is talking about this week. Respect him by not bitching about the fact that he didn't get a whole column about his dying. And go read some of his and Waid's Fantastic Fours. Like when they met God (the King of all creation in the Marvel Universe)...
Well.. by Sledge Hammer	Aug 16th, 2007 11:31:14 AM
Given that SealzyG admitted above that part of that news roundup did in fact come from other sites then they should have been credited, again that was my main point. Ironic that given this article featured a section on etiquette that you failed to follow standard net etiquette of giving credit where credit is due as far as stuff like that goes. Still, gloss over that and keep having your childish little digs, I'm a big boy, I can take it. Regardless, this is beyond pointless now, and is only souring what should be a talkback largely devoted to remembering Mike Wieringo's contribution to the industry, and comics in general, but you feel free to have the final word/throw the final insult, me, more than said my piece and beyond done cluttering up this talkback with ultimately unimporant shit, so I'm done here. RIP Ringo.
Shiggy-Pop! by loodabagel	Aug 16th, 2007 12:33:34 PM
Holy crap. Is everyone reading World War Hulk? I am. I enjoy it. Shigeru seems to enjoy it. All of the regulars seem to enjoy it. All of the new kids don't like it. But more importantly, J H Williams is drawing Batman. Therefore, Batman is awesome. And as far as this newly sprung Daredevil "controversy" goes, I say Bendis and Maleev made some very good comics. I cast my vote for classic.
Why the Bendis "Daredevil" run is controversial: by SleazyG.	Aug 16th, 2007 12:38:50 PM
Because while you may think people liked it, I thought it sucked. Really, really hard. And for at least 66% longer than necessary, as each story could have been told better in a third the time. The Bendii love it, but many of us hate it, and therein has always lay the controversy.
Whoops. by SleazyG.	Aug 16th, 2007 12:39:21 PM
I meant "lain", not "lay". My bad.
Are There People Who Don't Like WWHulk? by LaserPants	Aug 16th, 2007 01:36:54 PM
I thought everyone was digging it? I know I'm digging it. My only nitpick is that, for a World War, I would expect more of a global reach; like the Warbound f*ckin' shit up 'round the world. But I guess the idea is that HULK has a very specific (and justified) revenge agenda, and doesn't necessarily want to SMASH everyone on the planet to bits. Also, we're only halfway in, so who knows how crazy it will get. I just hope it goes out with a BANG!, rather than a whimper like CIVIL WAR did.
Weiringo's work on AoA by Homer Sexual	Aug 16th, 2007 02:58:15 PM
That's what I remember: His work on Age of Apocalypse, and I really liked it. He's only a year and some older than me, so it's extra unsettling. My lessened excitement on WWH, though I still greatly enjoy it, is based on recent developments foreshadowing Iron Man coming out of this clean, intact, etc. And that will probably ruin WWH for me in the end, since my whole love of it is based on seeing Hulk Smash Iron Dickhead.
Booster Gold by ian216a	Aug 16th, 2007 03:07:25 PM
No spoilers, but just read it and as a DC reader of nearly 30 years (but who still prefers todays books - no golden age of pop-meister me!) it made me squeal like a BITCH!!! Loving this and the whole Great Disaster build up.
But...I don't want Hulk to kill ANYONE. by stones_throw	Aug 16th, 2007 03:15:45 PM
I read the first issue of WORLD WAR HULK and it was pretty fun. But I'm really conflicted about what its larger impact on the Marvel universe will be. The Hulk has come to Earth specifically to kill and to me that's really regrettable. He's been the hero of his comic for over forty years. An amazingly atypical, original hero sure, but that's what's great about him. But the current regime don't see that. He's just a monster at the center of a blockbuster movie to them (maybe Pak has a better understanding of the character, but that's certainly the impression I'm getting from Joey Q and the rest). Once they explicitly show him kill, the tormented hero side and the rampaging monster side of the Hulk will be forever irreconcilable. But again Marvel are just pursuing the big story and the easy shake up. I don't think Joe Q sees the characters, just ways to fuck them up and make the message boards go mad. They point to sales as absolute justification for anything they pull without factoring in what the hell any new reader is going to think seeing all these heroes fighting eachother. Marvel really do seem determined to appeal only to the existing fans. The Stan Lee stories were built on the idea of character growth and more and more I'm thinking that his characters (not so much the timeless icons of DC) have run their course and Marvel are in need of a reboot. Anyway, I'm pretty encouraged by DC's new kids line. Now they just need to de-age Supergirl to about 13, get rid of the half-shirt and get JK Rowling to write her. Also, you missed out what I thought was some of the coolest news from the con, HOUSE OF MYSTERY is returning, written by Bill Willingham! Not sure if there's any available artists who have the moody style and are capable enough in black and white to draw it though.
The New MARVEL Regime Is What Brought Me Back In! by LaserPants	Aug 16th, 2007 03:40:11 PM
I understand how you might not want the Hulk to cross the line to murderer (I would love it, but thats me), but I think MARVEL is kicking serious ass these days. Its exciting, its crayzay, and theres muliple insanities and intrigues going on at multiple fronts. Plus theres the ANNIHILATION: Conquest books which completely rock. XMen appears to be on the wane (with the exception of XFACTOR), but all the AVENGERS books (especially NEW and MIGHTY) completely rock too. I think its a matter of taste. Seems to me there is a clear division between MARVEL and DC in that MARVEL has an edge to it, where DC is more traditional. Both approaches are fine, but I'm more intrigued by MARVELs edginess, especially these days. To be honest, I had all but given up on the whole superhero comic genre until the Marvel movies and Civil War dragged me back in from the fretful and/or transgressive artful indies and manga in the lesser trod area of the local comix emporium (but on top ten lists in 'regular' bookstores. Well, some, anyway). Btw, stones_throw, I think your JK Rowling helmed Supergirl book would be am effing great idea, actually. That would definitely get me more interested in reading DC books!
... by blackthought	Aug 16th, 2007 05:31:58 PM
oh dear...
Marvel's conservative and old-fashioned too, y'know. by SleazyG.	Aug 16th, 2007 06:01:57 PM
Case in point: the much-belabored back-and-forth over the fact that marrying Peter off was a huge mistake that hamstrung the character. His soap operatics work better as a single guy, and Quesada's been saying as much for half a decade or something. Ditto the FF: they work best with Johnny, Sue, Ben and Reed. Period. Sure, other things have tried, but they alway drift back to their default state, because it worked and is one of the most perfect concepts ever thrown out there. You want big changes? Don't look for them to happen with Professor X or Magneto, either, kids--they're too important and play too big a role. No matter how much finality is involved in their deaths (i.e. Wolverine fucking DECAPITATING Maggy), he's gonna come back and Marvel's gonna reset shit back to status quo. The thing is, whether I agree with all the decisions or not, the guys running DC and Marvel aren't stupid. They know you can change certain things (who's Earth's GL this year, or who Blue Beetle is, or whether Banshee is alive or not) but there are certain things you can't. Editors and EIC's at both companies will gladly speak of the importance of the illusion of change, not necessarily of change itself. And they're not wrong.
Ambush Bug by BetaRayBill07	Aug 16th, 2007 06:32:04 PM
A weekly news recap would be most outstanding, especially with WWH, Spider-Man consolidating titles, and DC's Countdown about to fudge that universe up for the 117th time. Thanks much!
And DC isn't so old fashioned by Jinxo	Aug 16th, 2007 10:45:52 PM
Seriously, reading DC comics, even though they are maybe more traditional they're not exactly old fashioned. I've seen some violent bits in DC comics that were so harsh I was shocked, shocked more than anything I've seen Marvel do. And both Marvel and DC have gay heroes running around. Not that that is a bad thing mind you. Not saying that at all. Just saying back when I first started reading comics no way you would have ever seen that. So not like DC isn't changing and evolving too.
those DARK KNIGHT stills that... by blackthought	Aug 16th, 2007 11:27:20 PM
were leaked look fabulous I must and will say...check em' out before they dissapear!
I Still Think MARVEL Is Edgier, In General, Than DC by LaserPants	Aug 17th, 2007 12:16:16 AM
I wasn't necessarily implying that DC is "old fashioned," just slightly more traditional and by-the-book than the edgier MARVEL. Also, I don't necessarily see anything wrong with the more traditional approach DC seems to take, it just doesn't exite me like the edgy approach of the MARVEL books. Theres an earthy funkiness to MARVEL which I love, and don't really feel from DCs books, in general. Again, just imho.
DC by Bluejack	Aug 17th, 2007 09:50:45 AM
DC is a convoluted mess right now. There is so much central control (editorial) over DC right now that all creativity is being stifled. What's a bit silly so far is the control Hulk has over his beat downs. He can beat the snot out of Black Bolt (who has no invulnerability or super strength as far as I know, and then smack Ben Grimm JUST enough to have them fall unconscious. Marvel's villain are sooooo limp right now. Iron Man is the best villain they have! Make Hulk a villain, then bring back Thor to keep him in line. Falcon for Capatin America.I think it is gonna happen. They symbolically burned his Falcon Costume off on the cover. We're ready Bru! Bring us Sam Wilson as Cap!!!!
The difference currently is Marvel's more shameless. by stones_throw	Aug 17th, 2007 11:01:46 AM
A lot of people aren't on board with what DC are doing at the moment and frankly I'm not all that interested in Countdown and its many spin offs, but I appreciate their efforts to set things up long term and build up characters even if I don't agree with how they're doing it all the time (like Bart Allen's death a year after becoming Flash). Marvel on the other hand have a hell of a lot of gall and not a ton of respect for the fans. They're obviously never going to stick with a Spidey with no secret ID but they go ahead and do it, switching it back a year and a half later, selling that as some major event and getting patted on the back for taking the character back to the basics. The hell? In the long run Joe Q and the rest are of course as conservative as anyone else who've got to protect a franchise but they've certainly made it clear they don't care much for the internal logic or continuity of their characters. (On a side note, I kind of think Marvel are hitting a "crisis" point with Spider-Man. Peter Parker's fundamentally a struggling, young character but in the main continuity he'll be hitting 30 pretty soon. I don't know if they're planning to de-age him in "Brand New Day" but (and this doesn't really apply to Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, who don't really age) they've got to make a choice of either continuing with a slowly ageing Spidey and risk irrelevance to the next generation of fans or stick him in a Simpsons-esque time warp and just go with the illusion of change. I think I prefer option B.
Spidey and Bendis by Bluejack	Aug 17th, 2007 03:04:48 PM
Bendis must hate Peter Parker. he has turned him into a whimpering idiot in Avengers.
Black Bolt Is In The Hulk's League... by Buzz Maverik	Aug 17th, 2007 04:03:56 PM
...at least in the sense that he wouldn't be pulped instantly. He has some level of superhuman strength and invulneribility, and has slugged it out in the past with the Thing and the Hulk. In an old Hulk annual, he knocked Hulk down, but really clobbered him when he whispered in his ear.
Marvel SHOULD Try Getting Realistic With Spidey... by Buzz Maverik	Aug 17th, 2007 05:09:25 PM
Take him back to being every man. Get him out of the Avengers, because regular guys aren't Avengers. He was never unmasked, because no regular guy is that stupid. He's married to MJ, who was never a supermodel but who may have been in a department store catalogue once. In an interview with the SUPERBAD guys, they all talked about how every girl any of them had ever been involved in was far more attractive than they were. I'll tell ya, that's sure the case with me and I'm sure it is for you or you wouldn't be reading this deep into a comic book talkback (if there are any Cogs still left around, they will now jump in and tell us how attractive they find themselves! I miss the Cogs). MJ was just offbeat enough to get Pete and she should know his secret identity, which is the most attractive thing about him. He won't kill. He wants to do good things and have a good life. And he'll always feel really guilty. Stick with that, innovate on the superhero side, don't call it a soap opera so they don't get soap opera silly and we'll have a good book again.
Iron Man & Hulk Are Not Villains by Buzz Maverik	Aug 17th, 2007 05:29:52 PM
These are great characters. Great stories have been done about both. They weren't created in the last few years. If Mark Millar had created a super billionaire who fit his political pretensions then I'd probably think it was a great character and a great story, but many of us are not willing to pretend that we've never seen Tony Stark and his tinfoil suit before. Dig it. Writing for a corporation, Millar abruptly makes a character who owns a corporation a bad guy. Iron Man has often been Marvel's equivalent of Green Lantern or the Flash ... not quite a super star character whom no one is quite sure how to handle. I'd say that given the combination of wealth, genius, alcholism and possibly sex addiction, not to mention an armored suit that can fight off monsters, robots and supervillains...THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO SAY & STORIES TO TELL HERE! If Iron Man was Stan Lee reaching back into the forties and fifties to create an armored Howard Hughes/Dean Martin, the Hulk was Stan and Jack embracing the 60s counter culture (with a little bit of late 50s Kerouac thrown in). Here was the Outsider as a superhero. It's funny that modern executives, editors, writers, artists and especially fans aren't as hip as two guys in the early 1960s who were both already 40 years old. The Hulk told us that we were just fine if we didn't look, act, think or feel like anyone else. The Big Green Kid Was Alright! It didn't matter if The Man, The Establishment didn't like him or get him. He didn't need them or want them, but he was still a good guy. You could have long, dirty hippie hair and be at odds with the Army and authority and make loud noises (turn that music down, hippie!) that scared them but you were a-ok.
Good Argument Buzz by Homer Sexual	Aug 19th, 2007 10:13:10 AM
But, nonetheless, I agree with the earlier post...Iron Man IS currently Marvel's best villain. By far. Who else is there? They're so fucked up they try to make every popular villain a hero. Iron Man is the best bad guy, and I can't read pro-registration "heroes" anymore. I am actually HOPING Stark is a skrull, but sort of doubting it. He'll have been deceived by another skrull or something equally moronic. It's an awful mess and while I am still reading, I am truly unsure if I am about to drop my 30 year comic habit for a while. Probably not completely, no problems with Simpsons, Friday the 13th or Welcome To Tranquility, but I am not sure where the Big 2 are going right now... A lot is riding on the final resolution to Civil War, where Iron Man, Captain America and everyone else end up. Could be great, probably will be pathetic. Aaaand...latest X-Factor another big "no." More terrible Rahne/Ricctor plot developments, and the main storyline very, very "meh." How could a book drop so far so fast without changing creative teams? Beats me!
I tell ya… by The Heathen	Aug 20th, 2007 09:59:48 AM
I am one good looking dude. Despite the pale complexion, small body and comic book reading I manage to be beautiful. It's a gift, more a freakish curse really. As fer comics? I'm really tired of how crappy Countdown is in both it's writing and art. I like the other things that are going on in the DCU sorta, but any momentum they get is thwarted by Countdown it seems because it is supposed to be the center of everything. Marvel just has so much going on I don't know where anything begins and ends. I'm going to drop Mighty Avengers. Just not worth it and seems to be in a void of space time like Astonishing is but not nearly as good. I dunno. I need to refine my pull list, but I'm behind on my books. Maybe it's because a old movie theatre was renovated a mile away? Maybe it's because Halo 3 is almost out? Who knows? Pass the Herradura…
lol heath by Shigeru	Aug 20th, 2007 10:09:40 AM
"every girl any of them had ever been involved in was far more attractive than they were."
I'm hot. Comics are cool. by Shigeru	Aug 20th, 2007 10:11:07 AM
Read Death Note or I will write your name in mine. "... dies in horrible cow-molestation incident."
I am the most beautiful... by loodabagel	Aug 20th, 2007 10:40:09 AM
18 year old comic reading male from Montana I know. Those other guys suck. In other news, I am also "refining my pull list." It's cool that there's a classy term you can use instead of "I'm gonna stop buying so many fuckin comic books." When I was in Portland this weekend, I didn't buy any comic books. I had the opportunity, but didn't do it. How strange. I got a Sleater-Kinney Cd instead.
Oh yeah... by loodabagel	Aug 20th, 2007 10:41:03 AM
What's the best comic-con and how much are tickets?
Actually..... by Psynapse	Aug 20th, 2007 10:41:44 AM
Blackthought and I are the truly 'pretty' ones. The others are merely 'cute in their own way'. (though Uber-studs/babe to a one)
That's not a lie… by The Heathen	Aug 20th, 2007 11:21:06 AM
Psy and blackthought are hot guys that make me question my sexuality on a weekly basis. Looda is totally right, I might have said "refining my pull list" but I totally meant "I'm gonna stop buying so many fuckin' books." Right on sir. What does Buzz think of Indy 4?
looda by Shigeru	Aug 20th, 2007 11:51:09 AM
that would be san diego and you just missed it buddy
blackthought has the latin fire by Shigeru	Aug 20th, 2007 11:52:29 AM
of a thousand suns. And Psy once robbed a diner.
damn straight... by blackthought	Aug 20th, 2007 01:22:26 PM
i'm one those model types that you see in your GQ's and Homme (French male modeling magazine) and what not...you know, fug it, I should model. I kid you not...every time I look at myself in the mirror I question my own sexuality...hell the mirror questions its own sexuality.
Modeling is WAY over-rated.... by Psynapse	Aug 20th, 2007 01:32:30 PM
Seriously. Did a few gigs and realized I wasn't capable enough at keeping my mouth shut while being verbally abused ( and I DO mean ABUSED-Photographers and shoot directors are ASS) to stay in the industry.
What Does Buzz Think of Indy IV? by Buzz Maverik	Aug 20th, 2007 02:37:45 PM
Glad you asked, glad you asked. I'm hopeful. Of course, I was hopeful about those last three things with the STAR WARS label and I was hopeful about the second MATRIX movie (but not the third, which I didn't bother to see), so what do I know? I mean, Harrison Ford is old but age is starting to mean less for some reason, so it'll be a while before Harrison is decrepit. He's probably in better shape that most of us, even you guys who are like, a quarter of his age and more attractive than everybody here except the Cogs. I'm glad Shia Le Beouf is in the movie because I like him almost as much as Spielberg does. One reason I like him is that, for a movie star, he's only slightly more attractive than I was at his age. No, he's a smart kid and a good actor. He can be funny and he can be cool and I'd rather see a guy like him doing action because it's more the regular guy factor. I think Spielberg will temper Lucas' boringness. I mean, Spielberg directed the duel between Anakin and Obi Wan in EPISODE III which was probably the best thing in the prequels. As long as they stick to telling a good, pulp serial story and forget who they are and what they've done and ignore the worship and listen to people without pandering to them...they'll make a good Indy IV.
Zomg..Indy....FOUR?!? Phfft! by Psynapse	Aug 20th, 2007 03:27:41 PM
What's the sub-header, The quest for a colostomy bag? Raiders of the lost Depends? The temple of Viagra?
Thanks, Buzz… by The Heathen	Aug 20th, 2007 07:44:36 PM
I feel the same way, I agree with those exact sentiments actually. Spielberg will temper Lucas' crap and I like LeBouf. Hell he was the only thing that was almost watchable in Transformers (Megan Fox is hot though, but not as hot as blackthought). I like the weathered Harrison too. I think that he has aged well and that he isn't all too different from when he was in Raiders. Indy's rough regardless. I was talking (ie. being laughed and berated at) with the Cogs in our newly furbished underwater lair about how I think that Harrison as Indy is human - they way he groans when he's about to fall or when he gets punched and how he hates snakes and can't really fly a plane. He's not James Bond, but yet he's still suave in some ways too. I think he'll be fine. I also thought it was lame how so many people made the title gags, but whatever… curse you, Psy!!!
indy comic? by blackthought	Aug 20th, 2007 08:48:09 PM
...
I'd be down for that… by The Heathen	Aug 21st, 2007 08:44:27 AM
but it'd have to be the perfect writer for the material. Someone Bendis isn't suited to write Indiana Jones. Darwyn Cooke on the other hand…
As someone who has done a few old(er) dudes.... by Psynapse	Aug 21st, 2007 09:00:15 AM
I have A LOT of trouble buying Ford as ANY kind of action-n-adventure hero is all. Trust me, even in their late 40's they just don't stay up like they used to....
Although..... by Psynapse	Aug 21st, 2007 09:02:26 AM
Ford WAS a TOTAL stud in Patriot Games.....
Good looks are overrated... by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 21st, 2007 12:25:32 PM
...as I have been told by many that I have a GREAT personality.
and by rock-me Amodeo	Aug 21st, 2007 12:26:26 PM
that I have a great face for radio (thanks, mom...)
Harrison Ford at his sexiest... by loodabagel	Aug 21st, 2007 12:37:33 PM
That movie where he played Robocop, or at least the time he kissed me on prom night. Anyway, it's not like it's such a problem these days. They can always just digitally de-age him like they did when they refilmed all the scenes for the Star Wars re-release. As I suspected, there is no secret-con in Montana to go to, so it seems me and my buddies will be trekking down to Sandy Aygo for some sexy young lust and debauchery. I was looking at their website. The Con's at the end of July. Surely that will come as sad news for you all, since the last weekend of July is the exciting time in town as we all gather uptown to celebrate the life and legend of a true blue American hero, Evel Kneivel (aka-Drink booze, drink bad tasting energy drinks, MAYBE see some assholes jump over stuff on motorcycles, but more likely, see the cops tackle some sorry dude who was just trying to have a good time. At this point, after the sucker has been cuffed and shoved against a wall, one of the cops will say to you "You guys didn't see any of that, right?" After that loser gets out of your face, some drunk babe asks "What was that cop buggin you about?" Your pal who's trying like mad to get some form of action will say "He was hasslin' us cause we're teenagers!" After three more hours of similar incidents, it's 2 AM, you're pissed off, People still wanna buy tacos, and you do not want to go back uptown tommorrow, but you do anyway. Good times, good times.
Indy Is The Only Character Fans Worry Re. Age... by Buzz Maverik	Aug 21st, 2007 12:57:12 PM
Remember when they were casting DAREDEVIL. I had about a billion six stupid online fights with people who wanted Brando as the Kingpin. In my own patient way, I tried to explain to them that Brando was over 70 years old at the time and that Ben Affleck was, then, about 30. It'd be like seeing someone beat up their grandpa. I mean, Psy would be there but we have the general public to think about. And remember, Psy, we're talking violence not sex. My Dad was about 80 when he died, and probably the last time he had sex was when I was conceived, but I think he could have held his own in fight. He'd probably use a golf club instead of his fists or a shotgun instead of a handgun but once a government-trained killer, always a government-trained killer and God Bless 'em for it! It's funny. I used to be a business manager for this old rich dude. I mean, the guy retired the year I was born. He was in a couple of World Wars and had developed US snow rescue procedures, etc. He was kind of a real Indiana Jones. He was like, 95, and he was making fun of the other senior citizens walking around with their golf clubs and canes for protection. "I just carry this revolver. Now if any of these young fellows were to accost me, I would simply shoot them to death..." I mean, I think we've FINALLY reached the stage where everyone knows that Sean Connery is no longer viable as James Bond, but even after he'd played Indy's Dad, I knew people who still insisted that he should be the only one to play Bond.
Hmm... by Psynapse	Aug 21st, 2007 02:39:29 PM
Okay, I'll recant the last few statements based on the fact that the one thing that comforts me about aging is how people continually underestimate the capacity for violence of those older than them. That and the understanding that age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill....
WATCHMEN Is Another One With Age Problems... by Buzz Maverik	Aug 21st, 2007 06:09:39 PM
Whenever we fans try to cast that, we always cast too young and make the mistake of having the Comedian and Silk Spectre II the same age, etc. I mean, the Comedian should be a guy approaching 60; Ozy, the Nite Owl, Rorshach and the Silk Spectre should look like they are anywhere from late 30s to mid 40s and Dr. Manhattan should look like a blue 25-30 year old guy. Also, Bale is the first actor to play Batman who wouldn't be too old.
Dirty old Indy is a very comforting thought... by loodabagel	Aug 22nd, 2007 01:32:44 AM
It'd be like Temple of Doom when he shoots the guy with the sword, but he'd do it every single time. Before the evil minx can try to seduce him, he shoots her. Before the bad guy can reveal his master plan, he shoots him. Actually, something I don't think has really been mentioned, if he's clearly an older guy, than the movie should take place in the fifties or sixties. That's be a cool change of scenery...
r.i.p. by blackthought	Aug 28th, 2007 10:43:57 PM
puerta.

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