For the record, I'm not a fan of die hard 4.0 either. I think he has learnt a lot and could just pull off 'Escape' ....just.

but escape from new york? yeah, it's a fun movie, but jesus, how far are we willing to stretch our geek necks to idolize a movie? it's 80's trash cinema. sure, it's fun, and it's probably close to the best 80's trash cinema, but it's not a classic. it's not a true cinema classic. you geeks and nerds know that. film history will judge you for elevating your childhood geekgasms to "classic" status.

let this euro-douche redo this, why not? he's not pissing on your church, he's just staring at it from across the road while he enjoys himself. your sanctity is intact, questionable as it is...

I'm sure a "Live free" afficionado (I mean, a sincere one as I'm sure you are) could come up with better arguments to its defense.

To me this movie is essentially an ugly, unholy remake of DHWAV - the best sequel so far.

Knowing that Dr Boll is Wiseman's master, it puts everything into perspective.

As for the original. Loved it. No, it's not balls to the wall action but I don't think it was ever supposed to be. I don't mind that they're remaking the movie... I really just don't want a glossy pg-13 summer movie version.

BUT the low-budget style of the first movie was maybe a pain in the ass for Carpenter to work with, however it fits the story perfectly. No fancy useless stuff, just lean, mean action and badassness. Besides as much as I can understand that you disliked the movie, it was essentially a low budget early 80's flick, what did you expect?

As for Walter Hill, he's not interested in Sci-Fi and passed on directing Alien precisely because of its genre. I haven't seen Supernova yet. Anyway, Hill at the helm wouldn't change the futuristic setting, and honestly between The Warriors' school of badassness and EFNY's, I couldn't choose one but I'm perfectly fine with Carpenter's. And concerning EFLA, it is maybe sucky at times but it was damn fun on some parts and the ending is a perfect example of what a guy like WiseRat couldn't even dream of: a balanced mix between minimalist setting, political boldness and unusual yet fair use of CGI and H'wood style for maximum impact. I don't love the movie that much but the ending is just genius (and a tasty middle finger to the braindead execs while ID4 was ruling the BO)

Now, to me Wiseman on board is like Star Wars Special Edition: you could just edit the original with state-of-the-art CGI it would be the same. The guy couldn't show some cinematic balls to save his life, will (judging by its past efforts) confuse scope with style and ultimately is a soulless yes-man.

But I must admit, his fucking blue filters will do fine on the movie.

Does that explain why we don't particularly feel European?

Warwick Davies to star in Remake of EFNY. Directed by that blue light addicted Underworld cunt. Written by Helen Fielding. Soundtrack by Outkast.

Dude's, he's not a Euro Douche or a Brit Douche - he's American. HAhaHaHAhA

anglophile or not, you are in no position to comment on either,

DON'T FUCK WITH THE LEPRECHAUN

This Afternoon set to remake my mornings work, due to serious lack of quality as a direct result of indifference. Soundtrack by me crying.

the sad thing is that these pisstakes are not actually worse than what we will get.

As for my cast, I tried so hard to think and feel as a soulless studio exec packaging a movie would do, I think I need a shower. But you have to admit, I pretty much nailed it. I don't know if I should rejoice or feel ashamed. Sometimes they beat me to my own game: never in a million years I could've imagined the Mac kid as a potential sidekick. These guys can't be beaten.

Music by Joe Satriani. Soundtrack on Epic Records, with many hard-ass uncompromised artists such as Kanye West, Chad Kroeger, Slipknot, Marylin Manson and TatU.

Do you REALLY want me to unleash my inner Neal H. Moritz on y'all?

Disclaimer: I'm French, so I'm no xenophobic here - and by "Gayporter" I'm in no means homophobic either.

/PC bullshit

I'm talking about the jury, not the contestants.

And, for the record, I dig Bad Boys II. It pleased my reptilian brain.

And Sally Field is called "Frog" in the movie. I'm pretty sure Roth would cast Julie Delpy just to show us how clever he is.

Do you mind if I borrow your idea for a lil' fanfic I'm writing?

Oh, and for the record too: I liked Transformers. Sue me all you want I'm a rich studio exec I can afford me some Lionel Hutz.

Three horror flicks back-to-back would be greedy. Let him team up in-between movies with the Wachowskys to let off some steam. How about a Larry Hillbloom movie? I want me some paedophile biopic! With Christian Bale as the adventurer-turned-child rapist!

But Ratner contacted Ted Danson to replace him. So it's ok.

BTW- forgot to say: Woody is producing the paedo biopic.

Why his power went batshit and bluelit Kelsey is beyond me, though.

Someone should tell the Rat that with great power comes great responsibility.

With a soundtrack by Michael Jackson, including never-heard-before songs like "I can hear you crack", "The toddler is mine" and "Blood on the diapers".

Other Jackson songs were commissioned including a cover of Elton John's "Don't let your sun go down on me" (that isn't a typo), and a cover of Massive Attack's Teardrop.

As for Farrow: Full Circle, Rosemary's Baby, Secret Ceremony, The Great Gatsby, Death on the Nile... she wasn't EXACTLY an actress struggling to pay the rent before her Woody Allen's flicks.

The remake will be PG-13 and suck anyway.

I think we've just coined a notion. I hereby claims the paternity of this term, and will sue anyone using it outside this TB without authorization. Yours truly, George Lucas.

Also, how about Peter Segal, Dennis Dugan, Staven Brill, Rupert Wainwright, Nick Cassavettes, Kevin Donovan, Tom Dey, Thomas Carter, ROB FUCKING COHEN GUYS!!!, F Gary Gray, Renny Harlin, Paul Hunter, Andrew Davis, Roland Emmerich, Geoff Murphy, Dwight Little, David Hogan, Stuart Baird, Marco Brambilla, Luis Llosa, Danny Cannon, Paul WS Anderson, Jon Turtletaub, Mick Jackson, Mimi leder, Philip Noyce, Kevin Reynolds, Chuck Russell, Joel Schumacher and Roger Spottiswoode???

Even without the delicate and introspective John Carpenter at the helm, maybe there's hope for this movie in Gerard Butler. His nuanced emoting in 300 have set him up to be the perfect heir to Russell's revealing turn as the complex Snake Plisskin.

And thanks for the username tip. I'm proud of it indeed. First time someone gets it, it is either too obvious or too obscure for most of the TBers to notice it.

Starring Will Ferrell as Will Graham, and Kevin Smith as Lecter. Music by Ennio Morriconne.

I hear he's set to re-imagine Lawrence of Arabia. Set in compton, starring Ice Cube, soundtrack by Sting.

Love Commando, but c'mon!

Funny thing, I remember T3 was rated R, yet DH4 had more violence.

Do I like Wiseman? Not really. I hated Underworld and never bothered with Part 2. But to compare him to Anderson? A man who was given so many chances and has never knocked one out the park? A man who single-handedly ruined Resident Evil? That's going overboard. AvP was the biggest piece of junk I have ever seen. It was an unwanted sequel that tainted what was great about both franchises.

With DH4, it got a lot of kids (like my little brother, who enjoyed the latest installment) to go out and buy/rent the originals.

Are there better directors out there to remake Escape From New York? Yeah. But this is what we got to work with here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the original film's pacing is slow and it could benefit from an entra jolt of adrenaline.

And at least the film is being made by a director who is capable at directing action, and framing it all in a way where you can see everything going on on screen. Not like other directors who film action sequences as if the action exploded in your face and you don't know what the fuck is going on half of the time.

With the right cast and script, this movie will turn out fine in Wiseman's hands.

"n Corey's case, he is given a substantial salary to work on whatever, by a very wealthy businessman named Allan Zeman and Nelson Leong. You'll notice Allan's named as a producer on all of Corey's projects. Allan is Corey's boss if you will, without Allan, there is no Courtney Solomon,director. " Cypress Chariot.

Nepotism is obviously a bad thing

And yes, they should remake THE RUNNING MAN.

In short, a fucking tool.

how about a Troll 2 Remake- starring all the suspects mentioned above, written by AnimalStructure (another right cunt).

Next time I get banned I'm coming back as NIlBOG

the Sommersverse was Ms. Valerious' horrid justification for Van Helsing (I think).

I was just thinking about a truly horrible one: a "Hard Boiled" PG-13 remake by Randall Wallace, starring Jude Law and Dougray Scott. Soundtrack by Prince.

Also heard DH4 was awesome, though haven't seen it yet.

Did you guys ever see the cosplay pics Valerious posted links to? The ones where she dressed up as characters from LXG?

I would love to see the cosplay pictures. Bet that's funny.

Also, I like they live and pod. Pod is not, however, perfect.

I do remember the old BladeRunnerUnit handle. But did he ever post as much as garbage as M-O-M?! GEEZ!

No, Donner does not get in the Hack list.

http://tinyurl.com/blsxz

Glad you liked the marillion cover Mike,

Unbelievably, they were safe for work. But not humanity.

Doves are an essential part of any action film. Seriously, they have tenure.

I liked High heels and low lives though, but it was insanely stupid. I had a crush on the actress (not Minnie Driver, the cute one) back then.

"Aye, it be."

Kate Beckinsale as the Girl In Chock Full O Nuts.

"How about a jar of antifreeze"

"Sounds good."

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Pity.

Not trying to start a fight with you Pilgrim, but if you watched The Thing and thought "hey, how about a sequel where the aliens take over and it is a post apocalyptic survival story", then you missed the point. However, you are perfect for Hollywood... Get packing...

Kate Beckinsale can play Hauk, US Police Force. She will be Snake's romantic interest. And then she's a traitor, but it's really her evil twin.

This is going to be boffo BO. It will totally revolutionize cinematic story-telling.

Yeah, right.

Music by the RZA, Lauryn Hill and Brian Transeau.

You know you wanna see THAT. I do.

First, as much as I love me some Carpenter, I'm the biggest Cameron fan there is. So yes, Terminator is way above EFNY in my movie scale. And considering my love for EFNY it's quite an achievement.

Now, what makes EFNY work for me is not the action as in "balls to the walls" (on a side note, I noticed the walls in LFoDH for the numerous moments when the camera bumped into them, but I failed to recognize any balls in them, or in the entire film for that matter^^). What makes EFNY work is the connection between the world it portrays and the cheap way upon which Carpenter portrays it. A bigger budget wouldn't add that much, just see EFLA and it's most powerful scene: a stand-off between Snake and Stacy Keach (two big, tough guys) in a poorly lit grassknoll. Hardly high concept Sci-Fi. Carpenter is a John Ford geek, he shots westerns in disguise, and EFNY with its fucked up America is the ultimate futuristic western.

The Terminator, on the other hand, is indeed a low-budget movie. BUT:

1/ it was Cameron's chance to break into the industry and

2/ Cameron used the leghthy production delay to maximize the impact on reworking the storyboards.

Hence two different movies, with two different directors, and two different production schedule. So even if I totally agree with you about Terminator being the better movie, I can't follow you when you compare a futuristic western from an established director, and a high concept sci-fi flick from a hungry newcomer. Carpenter doesn't give a shit about pace, and it fits the movie to me. But I'm a weirdo, from the Holy Carpenter Trinity (Halloween, EFNY and The Thing) I'm bored to death with the latter, which is a blasphemy to 99% of his fans.

Bottom line is: to me EFNY, even if it's far from perfect, doesn't need any remake whose only merits will be big blue-screened (blue filtered?) set pieces and wannabe rebellious attitude from one of the worse H'wood yes men. And to add one last thing: I was bored to DEATH during LFoDH. The only things that pulled me from my semi-sleep were the loud (mother)gunshots and the shitty/useless comedy scenes IN THE MIDDLE OF CHAOS. And the F-35 jet was hilariously out-of-place too.

No offense Glodene, I hope you'll have great time when it comes out. Personally, I won't bother paying for it. If I have nothing else to do I'll sneak into the theater to make up my mind.

Wiseman is the newest hack in a long, long line of undistinguished hacks. EFNY will, in fact, suck balls. Don't go and see this - that shit encourages them!

That man is no respecter of his own genius. Oh, and the donkey punching? The cock Carpenter would be sucking belongs to Uwe Boll. What a fucking mess.

But could JC put down his fucking fried chicken and hash pipe long enough to actually READ one of these aborted remakes of his classics every once in a while? He could still get paid (shit, no-one begrudges him that!) but actually GET THEM TO MAKE A GOOD REMAKE! Hell, it happened WITHOUT him watching over it with the new PRECINCT 13 - by fucking accident! A good JC remake... how 'bout that?!?!?

The bottom line seems to be: we're agreeing on disagreeing. But except for the few trolls, I'm surprised a Carpenter/Wiseman/Ratner/Polan ski themed TB be so solid and bullshit-free. Nothing like the SamJ as Nick Fury TB... aaahhh memories....