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Hey Robert Anderson...
by Horace Cox
Aug 8th, 2007
04:07:49 AM
You are a douche.
Those Rollover Ads...
by Dr Uwe Boll
Aug 8th, 2007
04:27:48 AM
Are really fuckin' pissing me off.
I hate to say it, but...
by stones_throw
Aug 8th, 2007
05:25:49 AM
AICN Comics is in danger of losing its distinctive personality. Most of these reviews don't say much more than "it's good"/"it isn't". Then again maybe that reflects more on the dull comics coming out now.
Again and again I'll press this point,
by DuncanHines
Aug 8th, 2007
06:00:42 AM
MARVEL has to turn SAM WILSON, THE FALCON, into The New Captain America. I know some other @$$holes are with me on this... Can you petition the EIC with talkbacks?
French getting their ass kicked
by TheBloop
Aug 8th, 2007
06:02:52 AM
Who would have thunk it?
METAL MEN were the starscream in 52
by messi
Aug 8th, 2007
06:25:32 AM
fucking awesome
Fuck I was looking for this black adam series
by messi
Aug 8th, 2007
06:26:01 AM
couldn't find where it started or if it had yet to start.
Final Crisis= End of the DCU/Resolution of Fourth World
by messi
Aug 8th, 2007
06:26:43 AM
Bet on it.
Black Adam #1 comes out today
by Jinxo
Aug 8th, 2007
06:30:39 AM
We got an early sneak peek to do the review.
Dark Tower......
by BangoSkank
Aug 8th, 2007
07:53:34 AM
I love me some Dark Tower, but this series reminded me of a really bad audiobook abridgment. The kind where they strip a 600 page novel down to two cassette tapes. The best parts of the series were the back-up stories by Robin F...... Pretty pictures too, I won't knock the art. A decent novelty item for Dark Tower junkies, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.

Now how about some action figures? I want an Eddie with optional junkie monkey. Or maybe a Bloody Stumps Roland with lobstrosity. Each could come with one part of a giant bear figure, collect them all you've got yourself a Shadrack Guardian. Thinking cap included.

DuncanHines, I agree...
by -=Shin=-
Aug 8th, 2007
08:42:45 AM
I'd love to see Sam Wilson step into Captain America's boots. Winter Soldier is great fun, but Bukcy isn't Cap and I pray to god they don't try to shoe-horn Clint Barton into the role, even though he still had the uniform, last I checked... It's gotta be Sam, baby!!
Outsiders vs. JSA
by Bluejack
Aug 8th, 2007
08:54:33 AM
Why am I sticking with the Outsiders? Someone please tell me why? Robin stinks. Nightwing stinks. Outsiders stinks. JSA has been a solid read, and I agree with the review. However, the focus is lost a bit when there are sooooo many characters. They should have waited a few issues before bringing in some of these folks. DC is ruining Nightwing. He is a whiney bitch. That is all.
Ignore the dag nasty Frank Cho miniseries?
by cathartist
Aug 8th, 2007
09:08:54 AM
What kind of crack are you smoking? Cho's Shanna was a great mini. Cool babe on raptor action accompanied with beautiful Cho artwork all centered around a busty jungle queen! Sounds good to me.
A Gunslinger Born is great for King haters
by RealDoubleJ
Aug 8th, 2007
09:22:01 AM
throwing my 2 cents in: I know a ton of Dark Tower fans are upset with what got cut out (reminds me of all the Harry Potter fans bitching about the films) but personally, if it weren't for these comics my bro would still be staunchly hating anything Stephen King writes without reading it. He's not a horror fan so he never took me seriously about the DT series but after these comics, he really wants to catch up with me lol It's like Mike Carey's adaptation of Gaiman's 'Neverwhere' for Vertigo a year or two ago, if you've read it you're probably gonnna nitpick. If you're new; you're gonna love this new world you found.
I knew Crecy had hooked me when...
by rock-me Amodeo
Aug 8th, 2007
09:34:00 AM
...I went on the internet to see if Edward the Second really died the way it was depicted. And sure enough, though scholars disagree, it was listed as a possible cause.

I was also pleased that Ellis didn't mention a very popular gesture and phrase (falsely rumoured to have originated) at that time as well - the old "Pluck Yew!" story. The two-fingered salute, though, is very much like today's one-finger salute. But I know one thing for sure - I'll remember the battle of Crecy from now on.
Just read the Wolverine entry on Wikipedia...
by rev_skarekroe
Aug 8th, 2007
09:55:44 AM
So Wolverine, Sabretooth, Feral, Wild Child, and Wolfsbane are all related to Roman age werewolves or something? And Wolvie cut off Sabretooth's head with a magic sword? The hell?
Correction BangoSkank
by SavageDragoner
Aug 8th, 2007
10:19:47 AM
That's Shardik, not Shadrack. It never went in a fiery pit with Meshach and Abednego. (And yes, I know that one is spelled Shadrach)
Dunno, rev...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
10:35:47 AM
Dropped WOLVERINE a while back along with all other X-books except X-FACTOR. As soon as Wolvie regained his memories, I tuned out. Ring it up to bad writing, over-exposure, and the awful taste X-MEN 3 left in my mouth. Haven't looked back and don't have any regrets for the decision. Considering doing the same for Spidey, but it seems as if the Spidey books are going to be refocusing really soon, so I might stick around for the time being.
Cho's Shanna...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
10:39:58 AM
was awful. Read the first two issues and had no interest in reading the rest of the miniseries. I don't think it was actually even Shanna herself in that one, just some mute clone of the jungle girl or something like that. It was all pin-ups and no story other than finding new situations for Shanna to squat down and show her thong and cleavage. Sure, the new series had Shanna do some ridiculously pin-up girl poses, but at least Palmiotti and Gray is giving us a good story as well. I like a little substance with my cheese, thankyewverymuch.
ILLUMINANTI #4 Was HIlarious And Spot On
by LaserPants
Aug 8th, 2007
10:40:08 AM
All the banter about the heroes women problems was great! Stark's comment about Clea's hotness was perfect and perfectly in character for the power-holic playboy; for him, its all about surfaces, he doesn't get attached, he just plucks the fruit he wants and discards it. (Of course, later on in the book (the last page, really) its implied that Stark, staring in to the reflection of his helmet, is actually quite lonely and would love to connect, but can't -- that sort of emotional angst being what really drives the character to do such terrible (some might say 'dickheadish') things like, for instance, becoming a fascist and sending half his friends to the Negative Zone SuperGitmo).

Also great was the banter between Namor and Richards in regards to Sue. Reed: "Oh, I know where she goes..." Next panel, a mute serious faced Namor glares at him. Dudes, I know its subsequently denied by Namor, but he TOTALLY banged Sue. Clearly Sue wants Namor bad. Richards is just the stability and paycheck; Namor brings the meat.

Of course the coup de grace for all this was Black Bolt pretending to make himself throw-up and laughing at Stark in his mind, then signing that Medusa never lets him get a word in edgewise. Haha! I should hope not what with all the cataclysmic destruction that would ensue! Haha! Great stuff.
...
by blackthought
Aug 8th, 2007
10:41:36 AM
uh
Final Crisis= End of the DCU/Resolution of Fourth World
by Shigeru
Aug 8th, 2007
11:05:43 AM
...the fuck?
???
by LaserPants
Aug 8th, 2007
11:05:53 AM
huh
blackthought and laserpants sum it up
by Shigeru
Aug 8th, 2007
11:13:15 AM

Yeah, its the emperors new opinion.
by rock-me Amodeo
Aug 8th, 2007
11:25:13 AM
Doesn't everyone see it? It's so bold, so pithy! Everyone gets it.
I agree with you Laserpants with everything except...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
11:26:15 AM
The Black Bolt thing. I liked the back and forth between the guys at the beginning, but the Black Bolt bit was over the top and completely out of character. I hate it that Bendis reduces Black Bolt's participation in this series as little more than an excuse for humor. But given the fact that Bendis' characters blab so much, it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't know what to do with a mute character.
But I really DID like Illuminati #4
by rock-me Amodeo
Aug 8th, 2007
11:27:16 AM
oh yeah, that Clea's a babe! Oops.
Snort!
WOLVERINE is retrarded right now
by Donald Trump
Aug 8th, 2007
12:46:38 PM
so here's the breakdown (and I haven't been purchasing, just reading)

wolverine has recurring dreams of these ancient fighting wolf-men.

goes on a quest to find out about wolf-men.

fights sabretooth, is recovered by Storm and black panther and they just happened to know a archaeologist in wakanda who just found some wolf-men bones/artifacts

wolverine finds out that he is descended from line wolf-men, and so he's related to anyone with wolf-like powers, such as Sabretooth, Feral, Wild Child, Wolfsbane, And SASQUATCH(?!?!retarded).

there is this guy Romulus behind it all, he's the wolf-man in charge or whatever and he is evil.

wolverine also finds out that there is a prophecy about two wolf-men rising out of the group as rivals, one blond, one dark-haired. (wolverine and sabretooth, duh) This is a ridiculous thing for the prophecy to be specific about; hair-color??! Why not have them be at odds because they both strive to be the greatest, and they won't tolerate competition? No, they are at odds because one has dark hair and the other is a blondie.

Jeph Loeb is a TERRIBLE Wolverine writer. This whole story is a very bad idea.

and Wolvie killing Sabretooth was very discontinuitous
by Donald Trump
Aug 8th, 2007
12:54:21 PM
Here is normal continuity:

in X-MEN, Rogue wants Sabretooth on the team. So he is in the X mansion.

in WOLVERINE, Wolvie runs into Sabretooth in the X Mansion and they fight. and he kills him. with the magic sword.

But in X-MEN, Sabretooth goes off with Rogue and company on their mission. Mid-mission he escapes (he was sort of an XMen captive) and he hasn't been in a book since.

sooooo....
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
01:04:33 PM
I did a good thing to stop buying Wolverine. Thanks for the recap and affirmation. Oh yeah, and I guess that means...

Wait for it...

Sabretooth's a Skrull then, I guess. Cause they'd never kill him otherwise.
So, was Werewolf By Night included in this list...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
01:06:08 PM
of Wolf Men?

Well, was he? If not then I call shenanegans.
Re: Romulus - I predict...
by rock-me Amodeo
Aug 8th, 2007
01:18:15 PM
that before it's all said and done, there will be ANOTHER mysterious string-puller. And his name will be Remus! Wow! And one of them will be blond, and the other will be brunette. Or whatever manly way you say "brunette."

Arghh. I can't stand it.

Ooooh, nice call on the skrullage, Bug. I bet you're right.
Acually Ambush...
by nofate
Aug 8th, 2007
01:33:09 PM
Dick Johnston's Lying in the Gutter column says Wolvie's son Dakken (gayest name ever) is slated to take over as Sabertooth.

Miss me much? I see you've eased up on the Bendis bashing. Picked a good time to start checking your column again.
Mahnke...not Mahnre
by arsonistradio
Aug 8th, 2007
01:48:09 PM
Just sayin'...
The problem with the Darkk Tower comics is...
by DanielKurland
Aug 8th, 2007
02:35:58 PM
it's all too rushed. I loved the books to death, but only having 40 or so pages is not enough. It makes it seem ridiculous to have Roland risk so muc hfor Susan, and fall in love with her, when it appears in the comic that they barely know each other, and all the internal stuff is lost. I still am enjoying them a bit, but had I not read the books, and this was my first experience with the "universe", I think I'd fail to see what all the fuss was about. A new story would be much more entertaining.
Dark Tower
by Jinxo
Aug 8th, 2007
03:00:25 PM
I don't know that I'd call it rushed. They do sort of blur by elements from the book admittedly so that maybe some of the internal logic is missing. But I actually think the execution sort of matches the style of the art. When I read that book I never feel like I'm watching the story literally happening before my eyes but more like I'm watching it through the hazes of time or in a dream. A heightened yet simplified version of the events. The myth rather than the reality of it. On that basis I think it works and I don't think it will be offputting to newbies. Existing readers know things are missing and feel it, newbies won't. We don't see Roland and Susan's relationship in detail but we don't need to. They're classic archetypes. They're the young starcrossed lovers. They're Romeo and Juliet only amazingly even more doomed. I'm not sure for this take on their story you need much more. You know he's a good if young man and she is a decent girl who if not for Roland will live a very sad life.
Re: Black Adam?!? That murderous SOB...
by Jinxo
Aug 8th, 2007
03:02:14 PM
Actually "Black Adam That Murderous SOB" would be a good title for the book. This series doesn't look to be painting Adam as any sort of hero.
rawkken with dakken
by sonnyhooper
Aug 8th, 2007
03:10:50 PM
seriously? wolverine's son is named after an 80's hair metal band? O.K. technically the band was named "dokken" but still, thats pretty horrible.
sounds like a sitcom, actually
by rev_skarekroe
Aug 8th, 2007
03:15:24 PM
This season of Fox - Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is "Black Adam: That Murderous SOB"!
Funny review of WOLVERINE; good site to keep up w/Xmen
by Donald Trump
Aug 8th, 2007
03:16:26 PM
www.thexaxis.com

funny wolv review http://tinyurl.com/3xh42c

I subscribe to the guy's weekly-emailed reviews, so I can keep up with all things X, without having to buy the stuff.

he's a great writer and the email is something I look forward to each week.

I'm not knockin' you @holes, cuz I understand you guys gotta cast a wide net regarding what you review for your audience. He gives me my X-fix and you guys give my the rest. And the multiple perspectives on a book are nice as well.

I never bashed Bendis...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
03:20:25 PM
I just criticized his work.

Still do, since...well...that's kind of what I do here.

Criticize comics, that is.

But you're right, nofate, I do seem to be liking more and more Bendis stuff since he left DAREDEVIL. Although my criticisms that the thought balloons are out of control in MIGHTY AVENGERS and the cast talks like gay hairstylists (no more "Oh no you di'int!"'s please) in NEW AVENGERS and the aforementioned misuse of Black Bolt in ILLUMINATI still stand. I think that Bendis may be realizing, after having written for the Marvel U for a while now, that there is, in fact, a history there before he came on board and I see his respect for that surface in almost every title he writes; especially in ILLUMINATI which retro-casts the crew into each major event of the Marvel U since the Kree Skrull War, yet still manages to fit the characters into that history by adding to it and not ignoring it.
latest Wolverine arc, Bendis thought balloons, etc…
by The Heathen
Aug 8th, 2007
03:30:43 PM
I have the latest arc and yeah, it's one of the worst things I've read in the past few years, but also one of the most unique looking, which is why I decided to get it in the first place. Still… wrong move on my part. It's just horrible. Worse than HoM, not as big or as important as The CW was, but equally as bad on a smaller scale.

Also, I hate, hate, hate the thought balloons at the end of the dialogue boxes in Mighty Avengers. It's like Bendis decided that that one book was going to be his thought balloon experiment. I may drop it because of that.

No matter how pin up pretty ASBAR is, I can never ever pick that title up while Miller is writing it. Having read "Goddamn Batman" about five times on one page is one of about a hundred (literally) reasons why.

I finished Deathly Hallows. Was why I took a break from the site. Didn't want it spoiled. Good column @$$es.
Yeah, those thought balloons...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 8th, 2007
03:52:45 PM
Annoying as hell. The reason for the thought balloons in the first place were to offer the audience a chance to see the inner monologue of a character or maybe it can be used to help catch up the reader without having the character awkwardly explaining what has happened before OR it can even offer the reader a chance to view a character in a different light. There are definitely ways to use these thought balloons effectively. I think the death of the thought balloon in favor of the more concrete text boxes (which I believe was started right about the time of Miller's first WOLVERINE miniseries although I could be wrong) was a sad thing. And I was excited to see their return. But the problem is that Bendis has nothing really important to say in these boxes. We aren't given any insight into the characters and there are so many thought balloons from so many different characters it makes them all look pretty bad since each and every member of the team is speaking in doubletalk and never saying what they mean. The main problem is that this thought balloon experiment may work in a title centering on one person, but doing this with every character is excessive, painful to read, and only serves to dissolve any focus the story may have and any trust in any of the characters because they never fully state what they mean. IN a way it's just another way to tear the heroes down by opening a window that paints them as liars or those afraid to state what is really on their minds.
You went too far Jinxo
by prunkhaft
Aug 8th, 2007
03:56:10 PM
Your review was ruined by excessive pecos bill style southern twang. Which doesn't really match up with the Mid-World dialect anyway. I'm a huge fan of the books but haven't checked out the comic series; might have to know.
Southern... really?
by Jinxo
Aug 8th, 2007
04:15:27 PM
I mean, I'm not saying I nailed the Dark Tower style by any means but... that read as "Tall Tales" Southern to you??? Really??? "It sounded like crap," I could understand but Waylon Jenning's narrating the Dukes Of Hazard not so much.

Really???
Geez, I kind of, um, like the current Wolverine
by Homer Sexual
Aug 8th, 2007
04:23:04 PM
I mean, it's not one of my top 10, but I found it interesting. I admit that I'm not a particular fan of Wolverine, probably due to his total overexposure. But somehow I got onboard during the Guggenheim/Ramos era and stayed after they left. I find the idea of them all being related entertaining, Romulus and Remus entertaining idea, albeit totally ridiculous. Same for Dakken becoming Sabretooth. Sabretooth as a good guy is just putrid. I'd like him to be a dead bad guy. He'll probably return, though. Wolverine is one of those characters who is so over-used and omnipresent that continuity isn't even a concern for me.

Now, what book did I read recently and love so much? GLI-Deadpool Summer Special. Squirrel Girl has defeated Marvel's baddest, including Thanos and Doom. But wait...."that stories can't possibly have occured in continuity"..could they? That was super! Squirrel Girl also summarizes why Marvel's current direction sucks donkeys with her talk to Robbie Baldwin/Speedball/Penance, pointing out that he is so full of angsty self-pity when other heroes have done everything he did, and then some, and are able to move on. God, I hate what's become of Speedball. GLI/Deadpool was fresh, funny, fast-moving, continuity-reference heavy, but still accessible for my non-comic fan friends to enjoy (while in the loo, but they still read it and liked it).

good review jinxo!
by prunkhaft
Aug 8th, 2007
04:23:48 PM
I might have been harsh with the southern thing. But it WAS distracting.
Heheh
by Jinxo
Aug 8th, 2007
04:43:39 PM
I can totally see the style getting distracting. Just trying something. Really wasn't even offended by the idea I went too far. Just really thought it was funny if that sounded Southern. If I heard people talking like that in the South, I think I would freak out and run the hell away.
Can anyone explain why 52 TPBs aren't available yet?
by willydevon
Aug 8th, 2007
05:28:09 PM
What the hell is the point of releasing spin-off after spin-off, when the DAMN ORIGINAL ISN'T AVAILABLE?! Does DC even care anymore?
wolverine...
by blackthought
Aug 8th, 2007
05:49:02 PM
is retarded.
Dark Tower Books
by Jinxo
Aug 8th, 2007
06:42:38 PM
The Dark Tower books are good reads but the finish could be considered lacking. EVen King seemed to know not everyone would be satisfied with it. It's a case of the journey being more enjoyable than the final destination. For me the journey was enjoyable enough to make it worthwhile.
Hello? World War Hulk? Anyone?
by BetaRayBill07
Aug 8th, 2007
08:58:28 PM
I must have missed something somewhere. You'd think WWH and the main Hulk book are currently, you know.....relevant? Hulk Smash? No? Hello, is this thing on?
Don't forget Bendis has a co-writer on ILLUMINATI
by stones_throw
Aug 9th, 2007
05:25:57 AM
He's probably the one who researches all the history and continuity, then Bendis comes in and adds Black Bolt gags. And really, I find retconning hidden agendas and writing over classic stories just as arrogant and disrespectful as ignoring them.
on the Dark Tower books
by rev_skarekroe
Aug 9th, 2007
07:35:47 AM
I enjoyed every one of them, but a lot of people really hate the last three. Certainly the series suffers from any creative work that takes 25-30 years to complete, in that the creator is not the same person when he started as he is when he finished (see also Cerebus, Star Wars).
World War Hulk #3
by Homer Sexual
Aug 9th, 2007
01:59:11 PM
After a smashing start (literally), WWH #3 was a solid issue, but did not bring the excitement of the earlier issues.

This was probably inevitable. It would be hard to top the adrenaline rush many readers felt reading/seeing Hulk beat down Iron Man, King of Assholes.

With issue 3, we see the writing on the wall. Obviously, Hulk can't really kill some of Marvel's most prominent characters. So the seeds are being planted to turn Hulk back to the (relatively) pro-Earth/humanity side. We see that some of the Warbound are actually rather shady, and Hulk's oldest, truest friend, Rick Jones, is back on the scene. Additionally the Hulk's human friends are around (including a possible future Giant-Man?) and the young genius (7th smartest in the world. How do they make these rankings?) who may or may not be on the up-and-up is featured prominently. This is all good, but doesn't quite resonate like the first issue did.

World War Hulk is great! I am not a regular reader of Hulk, and both WWH and Incredible Hulk are on the top of my stack now. But honestly, the only way I could be fully satisfied is if the Hulk really did kill the Illuminati in a brutal manner. Since that is obviously not going to happen, the ending can't possibly live up to the beginning. For me, at least. But I am probably a sick and maladjusted individual, wanting to see Reed Richards and Tony Stark put down for good.

I know what you're saying, Homer...
by Ambush Bug
Aug 9th, 2007
03:32:03 PM
I'm really liking WWH, but the event lost momentum in the second issue for me which I found to be repetitive and unfullfilling. Hulk stomps along, runs into some super heroes, one tries to reason with him, then he either smashes them (as he did with She-Hulk) or shoves them out of the way (as he did with Rick Jones). In this issue, he does the same with Ross and Doc Strange. I actually found this issue to be more pleasing than #2 simply because it showed how much of a grudge Ross had with the Hulk and how far he's willing to go to take him down. The failure of Doc Strange's intervention was telegraphed a mile away though. And I don't really want to see the entire Illuminati pay. Just Reed and Tony. I just felt sorry for Black Bolt and Doc Strange for some reason.

I'm not sure where they are going with this, but the readers know (even if the Hulk and Thuinderbolt Ross don't know it) that Betty is alive and as usual, she will be the only one able to calm him down in the end.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing them go the Ultimate Marvel U route and cage the Hulk in the end and make him work as an Avenger where he can be watched. Everything Ultimate U is going mainstream these days anyway, it's just a matter of time for them tog o that route.
Wolverine & Hulk...
by DuncanDisorderly
Aug 9th, 2007
06:30:22 PM
I agree about Wolverine being basically, well... crap! There are so many flaws with X-Men continuity and characterisation at the moment that it's almost Marvel and 20th Century Fox have jointly colluded to kill off the X franchise! As for World War Hulk- what can I say? Marvel have a potential classic on their hands here, what's the betting they fuck it up, too?
On the 52 trades...
by dan grendel
Aug 9th, 2007
10:02:30 PM
The first two ARE available. The next two are coming out over the next couple months.
Thought Balloons
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 9th, 2007
10:59:34 PM
Thought balloons are something most comic readers would have never thought about if comic pros hadn't started telling us they were old fashioned and defunct to begin with. I agree that Bendis is now experimenting with them, and while I haven't seen the results, you've gotta admire Bendis for experimenting. I've had a few debates with people who have mostly read modern comics (say the last 5 years) who were very uncomfortable with thought balloons. One guy suggested a different colored box for each characters thoughts, which is okay until you get X-Men vs. the Brotherhood. Wolverine gets black, Cyclops gets red, Nightcrawler gets grey, the Blob gets puke green, Storm gets silver...Comics, like prose, have the ability to tell us each character's thoughts and perspectives. With film or TV, we would be limited to annoying voice overs. I'm not a voice over fan. So I'd probably dig a comic without thought balloons or the first-person boxes. Just show me. But if we are going inside the character's heads, balloons seem to be a better tool. Less pretentious. You know, yer reading the DEFENDERS and you've got:

DOC: "My companions do not know their souls are at risk and I dare not tell them."

VAL:"Insufferable men!"

NAMOR:"I long only to be in Atlantis, yet once again I must ally myself with surface dwellers."

HULK:"Beans give Hulk gas. Where can Hulk get beans?"

...
by blackthought
Aug 10th, 2007
12:01:49 AM
goal!
Congratulations muthafucka... (!!SPOILER!!)
by loodabagel
Aug 10th, 2007
01:39:06 AM
It's a bitch. Man, Barracuda could skull-fuck a puppy and I'd still love him. I got the punisher trade Tuesday in Spokanne, along with (finally!) my missing issues of All-Star Superman and Daredevil and the second Ultimates 2 trade. Between them, I was the happiest kid in the world. Then today, Punisher 50 is in stores and Barracuda is kicking ass yet again. He's like the unforgiveable guy and Kimbo rolled into one.
I like thought balloons.
by stones_throw
Aug 10th, 2007
04:34:05 AM
Captions work when one character is narrating prose style, but since thought balloons fell out of fashion most writers aren't using captions any differently. I don't get why having a character's thoughts in a box next to their head is any better than having them in a bubble. Also, not every story NEEDS to be narrated. Captions are becoming a cliche. Thought balloons give the reader that sense of immediacy and in the moment-ness and therefore they're a lot more reflective of how people actually think, and don't slow the pace of the story down. When you've got 3 or more characters narrating it just becomes messy.
Worst Bendis use of a thought balloon:
by stones_throw
Aug 10th, 2007
04:36:53 AM
One character thinks "...", therefore signifying the character is thinking NOTHING.
Yeah, stones_throw, that was a gag.
by rev_skarekroe
Aug 10th, 2007
07:39:27 AM
It was supposed to make you chuckle a little, not make you mad. I'm not sure whether that's Bendis' problem or yours, though.
Uh...I'm not mad.
by stones_throw
Aug 10th, 2007
08:06:47 AM
I do get that it's a joke, it's just a kind of unnecessary bit of text.
Ah.
by rev_skarekroe
Aug 10th, 2007
11:06:25 AM
See, I figured the all-caps indicated ANGER!
"Robin, what have I done to you?"
by Thalya
Aug 10th, 2007
11:53:00 AM
I think that Superdickery quote is all that's needed to demonstrate the effectiveness of thought balloons.


Realistically though, I think that tool needs to be used but sparingly, not to provide commentary on a scene unless it's a humor piece, and more of an elegant shorthand to explain motivations and actions or un-dialogue-worthy reactions. Like a character thinking "Gotta be the painkillers.." in reaction to and otherwise unreasonably tolerating another character's out-of-left-field dialogue. Or a character obliquely narrating a flashback in caption boxes while the action for a specific flashback panel shows the character having a thought balloon more explicitly stating his motivations.

I haven't read it, but it sounds like Bendis is using thought balloons for the sake of thought balloons and to be "cool" and "different." That said, I thought Meltzer's use of multicolored captions in Identity Crisis worked really well, while later stuff in JLA, not so much.
Spider-Man Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 10th, 2007
11:57:27 AM
"Sooner or later, somebody at the chemists where I buy the ingredients for my web fluid will put two and two together..."
Iron Man Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 10th, 2007
11:59:40 AM
"I mean, who's really against freedom here? Is it me or is it some generically British comic book writer who has restricted an entire fictional universe and everyone else who writes/draws and reads the stories?"
Wolverine Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 10th, 2007
12:00:53 PM
"I could really use a smoke about now."
WWH and DC Crossovers
by Bluejack
Aug 10th, 2007
12:03:11 PM
What the hell is this with repeating the stories six hundred times in separate comics? I already BOUGHT this story before, dammit! I agree that WWH lost a lot of steam. I do like the Herc/Namora/Angel/Amadeus team and I would be willing to give that a slot in the space of the Outsiders which has been so awful lately. Another thought: what happened to how Hercules talks? Has his speech patterns caught up to the present?
Mr. Fantastic Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 10th, 2007
12:03:24 PM
"Illumanati? Ah, the comic book people have gotten into conspiracy theory stories approximately 15 years after prose, television and movies."
Hulk Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 10th, 2007
12:05:24 PM
"Hulk is tired of fighting now. Hulk will go wander in the desert talking to himself."
Invisible Woman Thought Baloon.
by Bluejack
Aug 10th, 2007
01:19:52 PM
"I wish I looked as good as Jessica Alba so I'd be the ultimate MILF."
Captain America Thought Balloon
by stones_throw
Aug 10th, 2007
02:27:53 PM
"..."
Silver Surfer thought balloon...
by loodabagel
Aug 10th, 2007
02:42:25 PM
Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin ta fuck with! Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin ta fuck with! Wu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin ta fuck with! The RZA! The GZA! Ol Dirty Bastard! Inspectah Deck! Raekwon the Chef! U-God! Ghostface Killah! And the Method Man! Last week me, Eric and ten party people I had never seen before all simultaneously broke into Wu-Tang Clan rhymes. It was nuts.
Galactus thought balloon...
by Jinxo
Aug 10th, 2007
03:51:09 PM
"The entire universe hates me because of my eating habits! Hey, I have a big appetite. I'm sorry but if untold billions must die because I need to binge, that's how it's gotta be. But if word of my bullemia ever gets out they are seriously gonna hate me. I'm so sorry your population died for nothing Omicron Zeta Five. Huuuuoooorrrrrk!!!!"
Bendis Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 10th, 2007
04:16:41 PM
"I am so meta! By now, they all think thought balloons are stupid...except when I do 'em, so I'm free to do thought balloons that ARE stupid. And if you said the term meta-fiction to 99.999% of 'em, they'd think you meant meta-human."
Thundra thought balloon
by Mr Squirrel
Aug 10th, 2007
09:06:53 PM
"Tigra looks so nice tonight... those long, furry fingers, those whiskers... NO! STOP IT Femizon, remember the Comics Code. Go beat up Grimm again!"
Warren Ellis thought balloon...
by loodabagel
Aug 11th, 2007
12:42:50 AM
Shit! I forgot to mention the multiverse in last month's Fell!
Robin Thought Balloon
by stones_throw
Aug 11th, 2007
07:46:53 AM
"Has Bruce ever had a girlfriend? Maybe I'll move over here a little."
My favorite use of a thought balloon...
by stones_throw
Aug 11th, 2007
07:58:07 AM
...is in one of the CRISIS ON MULTIPLE EARTHS volumes reprinting JLA stories from the 60s. Basically, the evil Johnny Thunder of Earth A is preventing all the heroes from ever coming into being, ie diverting Superman's rocket, making sure Abin Sur never reaches Earth etc. Then he gets to Batman's first appearance but just gives him a swift punch on the jaw, so Bruce Wayne thinks "Oof! Where'd I ever get ths crazy idea?!"
Flash Thought Balloon
by stones_throw
Aug 11th, 2007
07:58:36 AM
"Which one am I again? And for how long?"
Flipping through Planet Hulk....
by Detective_Fingerling
Aug 11th, 2007
12:28:33 PM
I found the story to be garbage from what I could piece together. I've been buying the WWH books as they've come out (along with the Illuminati stuff) but as with all my current Marvel stuff of the past year , it's been put on hold while I either find my first and third issues of Civil War, or find some variants for a decent price on ebay. Long story short, I went away May of 06 to go to school out in Seattle, while I live in Maryland and didn't buy any comics up unill about May of this year... thus missing out on the whole civil war/ 52 epics. I did however just get through 52 and have been pro DC ever since. Anyone else patiently waiting for the next issue of Guttsville to come out?
Didn't Waid use thought balloons in X-Men?
by Mr Squirrel
Aug 11th, 2007
07:36:16 PM
I remember them all fighting some monster accompanied by thought balloons, and Wolverine's internal monologue consisted of 'beer.' I like word balloons too, bring them back and draw the Human Torch properly with all the black lines while you're at it.
Try Whedon, Mr Squirrel.
by stones_throw
Aug 12th, 2007
06:35:45 AM
Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch to take over FANTASTIC FOUR, the characters Millar fucked up the most in CIVIL WAR. (http://tinyurl.com/yvqdr4) Although having said that the FF are my favourite Marvel characters and it would be great to see the huge invention and action of their golden days return, something I still rate Millar pretty highly for. It should be interesting to see if he can work within the continuity and characters of the established MU, something I've yet to see him do.
Superman Thought Balloon
by stones_throw
Aug 12th, 2007
06:37:12 AM
"Everyone thinks I'm hard "to get". C'mon, I'm a pretty simple guy. I like girls, tight fitting, bright clothes, the sun. Either that or I'm too powerful. How's that bad?"
Stones Throw's picks of the week!
by stones_throw
Aug 12th, 2007
08:39:11 AM
BATMAN #667: Man, that was good. Morrison puts Batman into a situation where he'll have to use all his brains and strength. It's not exactly original but it brings out the best in Batman, and the "International League of Heroes" was just cool. Grant Morrison's best issue so far and my favourite Batman comic since, uh, Paul Dini's first issue on DETECTIVE, which J.H. Williams also drew. Maybe he should draw every comic then I wouldn't have any complaints.

DAREDEVIL #99: More goodness. Brubaker and Lark are a triumph for traditional, fast-paced superheroics that never feel the least bit campy or retro.

GREEN LANTERN #22: This story kicks ass! Geoff Johns is the one writer who can make a comic using established names feel like a mega-budgeted blockbuster movie without losing sight of continuity, history or the characters. If only Hollywood could do a Green Lantern movie this spectacular.

SPIDER-MAN & THE FANTASTIC FOUR #4: This was a disappointment. I've been enjoying this MARVEL TEAM-UP-esque miniseries but this issue was basically wrap-up with way too many conveniences. I also didn't care for the portrayal of the Impossible Man's race or what happened to them at the end. I'd imagined them all to be just as crazy and off-beat as him. Still, Jeff Parker's a good, functional writer when it comes to one-liners and action.

amen
by blackthought
Aug 12th, 2007
01:34:58 PM
to gl.
The Watcher Thought Balloon
by stones_throw
Aug 12th, 2007
04:35:28 PM
"What's even the point? All these idiots do is sit at their primitive computers making up unfunny thought balloons for characters no one in their right minds cares about."
Watchers (n)
by stones_throw
Aug 13th, 2007
12:07:27 PM
One of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's most enduring creations from FANTASTIC FOUR, the Watchers are a highly advanced, bald race who have appointed themselves as passive observers/recorders of all life in the universe. Although they have taken an oath never to interfere Uatu, Earth's Watcher, has repeatedly aided the Fantastic Four in their adventures. See also: celestial peeping toms, Stan Lee characters who inexplicably speak in Shakespearean English.
Sound effects...
by stones_throw
Aug 13th, 2007
12:08:24 PM
...now there's an unnecessary feature of comics.
I have enjoyed sound effects now and then...
by loodabagel
Aug 13th, 2007
02:42:12 PM
One way to enjoy them is to read them aloud. It's awsome. Humberto Ramos (I believe) made some good use of sound effects back in his Spider-Man days, where the sound-effect word would be something like "web" or "throw."
Green Arrow thought balloon...
by loodabagel
Aug 13th, 2007
02:43:33 PM
Shit, I wish I was as cool as Aquaman and king of 70% of the motherfucking WORLD.
Batman Thought Balloon
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 13th, 2007
03:56:28 PM
"Good soldier? I don't talk like that. No one in the history of talking has ever talked like that."
Mike Wieringo has died.
by stones_throw
Aug 13th, 2007
04:52:34 PM
44 years old. I love this quote from Karl Kesel on Newsarama.

"The last time I talked to Mike we agreed that both he and I drew "action" not "violence" and, unfortunately, that limited our commercial viability in today's market. Mike commented, a bit bewildered, that only a few years ago his style was "The Look" that all the editors wanted to give their characters, but somehow, suddenly, that had changed. I'd been thinking about that a lot, even before I got the news about Mike, and this is what I decided-- this is what I was going to tell Mike the next time we talked: "Mike's art was about hope, not hopelessness. He drew heroes, not martyrs. And if that was wrong, thank you Mike for never being right."

Man, Wieringo was one of the greats...

that blows...
by blackthought
Aug 13th, 2007
05:26:53 PM
unexpected.
Mike Wieringo
by Bluejack
Aug 14th, 2007
12:41:49 PM
His characters seemed happy despite the big feet. What a sad loss for his friends and family at only 44. Strange that Bart died only a short time before the definative Impulse artist did.
true.
by jimjom
Aug 17th, 2007
08:05:09 AM
true.
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