i love that movie and to me that is one of Oz's best movies

and I'll be honest, I enjoyed The Score but totally forgot that Frank Oz directed that movie. That's a film that would have required a delicite touch by any director, you have 4 great actors from at least 3 different schools of acting and it could have been a major clusterfuck, I mean it wasn't great but it could have been a whole lot worse

what was the drama on What About Bob though? I'd never heard anything about that...

I'd have been like Chris Farley in his SNL talk show:

Me: "Remember when Yoda was on Degobah and Luke decided to leave 'cuz he had to go save Han and Leia on Cloud City?"

Oz: "Yeah."

Me: "That was cool."

Who can't love his version of Little Shop or Dirty Rotten Scoundrels?

Nowhere in your posts on the voice do you seem to acknowledge that the voice actor was also generally the puppeteer, which changes the balance completely. Do you want a subjectively great voice and shit puppetry? One of the things Henson pioneered was the way he combined the body language with the voice and used physical 'accents' to punctuate the lines. Even if it were true that there are 'a thousand" people that can do a better voice, how many of those are puppeteers?

Yeah Bloo, too bad there was nothing about Indian in the Cupboard. Great if for no other reason than being a return to a less ostentatious 70s style of filmmaking.

Funny about Oz's diplomacy. Apparently he generally swears a blue streak (only on set I guess). Although he's gracious about the blame for Stepford and I guess part of that is the casting, was it completely his fault that Kidman and Broderick had zero chemistry? They're actors, right?

"Guess who that guy is that's proctoring the exams for the GLG-20's?"

Now they have Yoda moving his head too much and essentially looking like a CG character. I think this is where people can tell CG from real life because they look to exaggerate a performance with a CG character, whereas real people don't move so much as it's not natural. I think CG artists really need to study human movement more and not try to make it so much like a caricature. I think they actually do it subconsciously.

Look at things like the lipsync though. He has nowhere NEAR the amount of mouth movement of the other cg characters, to maintain consistency. Look at the original puppet. All the mouth could do was "ba ba ba and ma ma ma" in terms of phonemes. It's a tribute to Oz's skills as a voice actor and puppeteer that most people still don't notice that (fanboys included). The cg eyes are pretty well judged too in terms of movement and eyelids etc. Do you do this sort of stuff? Have you ever talked to a cg animation sup (as opposed to tech nerd) or read an interview with one? It sounds like you wouldn't have made the last statement (studying human movement) or the last paragraph in a million years if you did. They may fail (and of course they're aiming at an infinitely more ambitious goal), but they do try. Maybe the caricature you're thinking of is more like Disney 2d animation. Go back and look at the exaggerated takes and super stylised movement for even the most human, 'realistic' characters and tell me it's not incongruous. I'm not saying it's by mistake though. BTW that excludes the roto stuff where they move like dancers anyway and not the character itself. Now look at the cg again. Swings and roundabouts as they say.

BTW Yoda isn't human (but he IS a human caricature). Just so you know.

Go give that poor fool Oz some tips on comedy and directing films, ya smug tool.

Anybody got a preference?

I remember being distracted every time Yoda came on, wondering why he sounded so much like a not-quite-there Fozzie bear. Then Boba Fett came on... Anyway haven't thought about that for ages. It's strange in retrospect that if anything, succeeding generations of kids would be the other way around, thinking of Yoda first. Kids these days...

"Ruprick the Monkey Boy"

Fucking typos.

If he lived up to his own username he shouldn't be posting, rather he should be kicking himself to death somewhere.