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by el_badmtherfuker
Aug 6th, 2007
05:58:01 AM
My first post n I'm first, yep I know I suck
mega-awesome!
by monkeyduke
Aug 6th, 2007
06:09:47 AM
Been looking forward to this since I saw the trailer. Oscar bait...but the good kind.
Almost lost me at Grizzly Man
by Aloy
Aug 6th, 2007
06:11:56 AM
Not sure I wanted to see anything that even compares to that story again but Penn's directing has been too interesting to not want to check this out.
sounds great
by kwisatzhaderach
Aug 6th, 2007
06:17:36 AM
I always thought The Pledge was a terrific little film. Looking forward to it.
Grizzly Man Rules!
by lost.rules
Aug 6th, 2007
06:29:13 AM
This film won't be as good, but Jon is a difficult writer to adapt. Bring on Kingdom of Heaven!
He was staggering in Dead Man Walking and Carlitos Way
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Aug 6th, 2007
06:49:42 AM
He is a fantastic actor. He just grates a bit on the ol' liberal do-gooder front. He means well!
Great book about mental illness
by Trazadone
Aug 6th, 2007
06:54:45 AM
Chris McCandless was clearly mentally ill and would have most likely been diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder. Here's the criteria, "A pervasive pattern of detachment from social relationships and a restricted range of expression of emotions in interpersonal settings, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following: neither desires nor enjoys close relationships, including being part of a family; almost always chooses solitary activities; has little, if any, interest in having sexual experiences with another person; takes pleasure in few, if any, activities; lacks close friends or confidants other than first-degree relatives appears indifferent to the praise or criticism of others; shows emotional coldness, detachment, or flattened affectivity
Dude was crazy...
by solartaco3
Aug 6th, 2007
06:55:40 AM
and he was killed by Bigfoot. I seen it.
Edward Zwick and Anthony Minghella = Oscar Bait
by messi
Aug 6th, 2007
07:53:30 AM
I shake my head too many times during their movies.
NOOO MORIARTY!!!
by messi
Aug 6th, 2007
07:56:16 AM
You sound like a real film reviewer. That sucks. "I was touched by this and longing for a father and that", I prefer "When Ripley was in the mech suit, it was awesome", a bit too grown up for the real film reviews I am. BREAKDANCE
Read the book, Mori?
by theBigE
Aug 6th, 2007
08:02:37 AM
It seems from your review you read the book. Krakeur's account is very powerful writing! I couldn't put it down. You start out convinced the boy is mentally deranged, but come out just thinking he was pure of heart but incredibly naive. This is the movie I'm most looking forward to this fall.

By the way, what's happening with the weekly matinees?

A movie about a moron
by dukrous
Aug 6th, 2007
08:10:18 AM
So this the movie about the moron who starved to death a day's walk from civilization, right? The one Alaskan wilderness rangers talk about the same way democrats talk about Bush? Pass...
theBigE...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 6th, 2007
08:11:49 AM
... I was in Prague last week, so no matinee. But I'm planning to catch up with HOT ROD and RESCUE DAWN this week at some point, and I'll absolutely write them up.

And, yeah, great book. The film just does it differently, and it's equally powerful.

Emile Hirsch = DiCaprio Lite
by Mosquito March
Aug 6th, 2007
08:20:06 AM
I hate actors who are pale copies of other actors.
Someone give me a book to read. i'm bored
by messi
Aug 6th, 2007
08:27:21 AM
ANYTHING! ANYTHING!!!
Dear God
by DannyOcean01
Aug 6th, 2007
08:28:46 AM
I have a schizoid personality disorder.... I completed my first proper stint of travelling at the beginning of this year and so in some small way can empathise with McCandless. Hopefully there's a pulsing wanderlust to us all. Unfortunately some people discount that as a fear of work and relationships etc. Really it's the knowledge that there's so much out there to see and experience and it's excrutiating that you'll never get to see it all.
Mosquito...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 6th, 2007
08:29:15 AM
... that's so patently not true, especially in this film. I don't care what else Hirsch has done... in this, he proves that he deserves to be taken very seriously. It's great, great work.
SoylentMean
by dukrous
Aug 6th, 2007
08:36:17 AM
That's why I agree with the Alaskans. To go into any situation unprepared is one of the many definition of dumb. When a park ranger in Alaska was asked about McCandless, he said "Chris McCandless committed suicide." From another article, the writer wrote, "You'd have to be a complete idiot, they say, to die of starvation in summer 20 miles off the Parks Highway." Why should we seek to elevate someone who wanders into the wilderness with no foreknowledge or even basic training to do so? It will lead to more young, stupid people dying needlessly. This is not a great story about a man looking for himself...it's a cautionary tale about being prepared for the journey you wish to take and the consequences that will befall you when you do not think ahead.
jane fonda meant well too
by pikagreg
Aug 6th, 2007
09:29:44 AM
and she's still a bitch for betraying our soldiers. Sean Penn is a doushe, and I refuse to see any more of his movies, especially after his weekend visit to Hugo "Americans are the cuase of all our problems" Chavez. Well, Hugo and Sean, lets see how well your country does economically if america doesn't buy your shitty citgo gasoline anymore. Got a whole lot of other exports there do ya Hugo? Got anything anything else to get you elected besides anti america bashing? You and sean penn can keep each other.
The trailer looked awful
by harold_maude
Aug 6th, 2007
09:30:54 AM
is it just me or does the trailer look really bad, over the top super drama queen stuff with hirsch looking like they just picked some prettyboy face and dusted him up to make him look like a traveler? but... i love penn and trust you mori so i guess i'll take a look?
pilkagreg
by harold_maude
Aug 6th, 2007
09:36:40 AM
chavez was elected to bring power back to his people, not because of anti american rhetoric, that came after the US goverment decided to kill him because he was not letting them roll all over his country anymore. see US likes to keep countries like venezuela in their pockets so we can get cheap gas labor and just have bushies big business buddies make tons of money off of them, so if you like rich fat cats getting away with exploitation and abuse down south then continue spouting hate but try to understand what it is you are fighting for
harold maude
by pikagreg
Aug 6th, 2007
09:41:23 AM
see, guys like harold maude like to keep their populations uneducated and poor, and claim that they're giving power back to their people, when they really don't. that country still lives in poverty while the people in power still roll in the money from the oil sales, without actually reinvesting the money back into the country. Then, when guys like chavez come to power, they can then blame the fact that money doesn't trickle back to the people on the U.S. That way, socialist pricks like chavez can stay in power for however long they want, without actually having to give the money back to the people, and say that the U.S. rolls all over everyone. Chavez is a prick, so is Penn, and i'm sorry, I happen to like having upward mobility in this country. Has Chavez given that to his people? no, he's given them nothing but a bunch of anti-U.S. rhetoric.
just googled poverty rates
by pikagreg
Aug 6th, 2007
09:48:17 AM
in venezuela. The poverty rate has hovered anywhere from 40 to 50% in venezuela, depending on how well oil is selling on the market. So even though chavez got elected on a platform of helping his country's "poor," would appear he hasn't done shit for them in eight years. Gotta love socialism.
food, jobs and education
by harold_maude
Aug 6th, 2007
10:40:40 AM
chavez is reinvesting, in his people. Chavez uses the money from all those oil companies to provide subsidzed food education and jobs to the poor of venezuela and he gives free gas to the US poor as well. maybe he should just keep letting some rich foreigners take their oil wealth out of the country. chavez already told the US if they attack him he will stop providing oil to US which he is our 4th largest provider. that is him trying to protect himself since all US cares about is oil (iraq)
Sounds like a great movie
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
10:48:33 AM
Saw the trailer during Sicko, not knowing anything about it, and was intrigued. Thanks for the review, Mori - it was one of your best. I'd make the journey to Alaska myself but THE MAN won't give me a year off. Wait, I'm self-employed ..
As a rule, I watch anything Sean Penn is involved with
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
10:52:37 AM
Even that movie with Nicole Kidman was pretty good. Not great, but more entertaining than Spider-Man 3 was.

As for this Hugo Chavez debate .. I hope the wingnuts are aware that the US backed a failed coup against him only a few years ago, at the height of the Bush Admin / Right-Wing's power-drunk stupor. So what Chavez said about Bush was correct. He's not Anti-American, he's Anti-Wingnut.

If I can get Internet access in the wilderness
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
10:54:25 AM
I'd go to Alaska but I can't do without AICN for even one day.
Haha - why did he name his company Wingnut Films?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
10:59:39 AM
That's peculiar.
Hugo Chavez as Kirk, Sean Penn as Spock
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
11:01:25 AM
and Pikagreg as the sexy green stripper alien. Discuss.
pikagreg is a dumb cunt
by messi
Aug 6th, 2007
11:22:30 AM
educate yourself cunt. You seem like the kind of guy that supports today's soldiers, just to let you know, it's their choice to go and 'fight', if they get blown up, killed, that's their own problem. Like severed head of state says "No tears will be shed for the soldiers of war returning in bags". Fight a real cause then get back to me.
Weta's soldiers versus Venezuela
by messi
Aug 6th, 2007
11:23:34 AM
Weta's CGI is so good that their soldiers are CGI and can actually kill, that's Jackson's army. Pixels. Photorealistic Pixels.
Roll Over
by kennofolds
Aug 6th, 2007
11:24:27 AM
Is what our government has to do to get oil. Here's an idea:

Lets drill here in the U.S., we have oil we just can't drill because of endagangered mashland animals....Pick a damn side democrats and republicans...renewable fuels just don't fall out of the sky, its going to take time..and until then we are going to be in hostile confrontations with other countries over oil because they don't like us....Its a vicious circle that can only be stopped by taking responsibility that all americans are preconditioned hypocritical materialists obsessed with instant gratification....

Career Politicians are our downfall

check that
by kennofolds
Aug 6th, 2007
11:42:45 AM
maybe they do fall from the sky
Great review as ever Mori
by Vamp-AICNchat
Aug 6th, 2007
11:48:16 AM
I think Sean Penn is a great actor and I like Emile Hirsch. I think he was very good in ALPHA DOG. I also think SPEED RACER will make a mega star. I just can't wait to see how that pans out.
You said there were spoilers
by Garbageman33
Aug 6th, 2007
11:53:22 AM
You didn't say you were gonna tell us the kid dies! I'm sorry, but that's kind of a doozy. Well, I guess I don't need to see this in the theatres now. You owe Sean Penn $12.
Hydrinos and Oil Companies
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
11:58:16 AM
It stands to reason that these alternative fuels won't really take a firm hold until the oil companies can figure out a way to transform their business model. If anyone wants to be at the forefront of the "new fuel/technology age", it's the oil companies. Trust me, as soon as they figure out a way to make it work for THEM, it's on. (At least that's my little theory.)
It takes nothing from the story knowing he dies
by theBigE
Aug 6th, 2007
12:34:32 PM
The book starts out telling you he dies. It makes the story that much more tragic, knowing that he'll meet his doom. I was wondering if they would advertise the movie the same way as the story - telling you he dies in the end.

And you pinkos can argue about pikagreg, and his hate for Hugo Chavez, but just remember, he couldn't write that in Venezula without fear of reprisal. I suggest you who love Chavez so much move there.

Check out the DVD WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
12:37:20 PM
I think Mori reviewed it once. Great doc. All the major car companies - no exceptions, including the Japanese - killed the electric car with pressure from the oil industry. Better than hybrids, we need that technology back.
theBigE - What is a "pinko"?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
12:42:15 PM
And are you kidding me? I have a fear of reprisal when writing shit about Harry.
theBigE
by el_badmtherfuker
Aug 6th, 2007
12:46:53 PM
'I suggest you who love Chavez so much move there.' Well said man, in fact I live in Venezuela and all of you assholes talkin' about Chavez and how he fights for his people should really come in here and see for yourselves how we live here. How you are afraid to go out at night because of the freakin high crime rate, dude, more than 100 people die on a weekly basis on violent crimes alone, check the unemployment rate, etc, Oh and you should see the government people, their luxury lifestyles, their cars, houses, etc, socialist revolution my ass. I guess that from there you can imagine how a beautiful paradise this socialist country is, fighting the good fight against the US, dude give thanks to god you were born there and not in one of our guettos.
SoylentMean
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
12:47:40 PM
Yeah, I've seen it work, too. Dan "Big Red" Rather drove around in a cell car that had a top speed of 100mph, a range of 200 miles, and emitted nothing more than water (clean enough to drink) as exhaust.

And I've also heard the near-urban myths that the US military had demonstrated the ability to run vehicles on butter!

The technology is definitely here and the methods with which to begin implementing it are just now being realized. But I agree, it will not really happen until the oil magnates figure out a way to monopolize it. After all, that is how they will stay in business...

Gaius - that car was featured in WHO KILLED THE ELECTRI
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
12:51:54 PM
C CAR documentary. Check it out. See ya later, I'm moving to Venezuela for the hot girls and socialism.
The Girl Next Door Made Hirsch A Star...And Fuck Chavez
by Darth Fabulous
Aug 6th, 2007
01:17:23 PM
I don't care what your political leanings are...why does Sean Penn need to go visit a Venezuelan dictator? What is that going to accomplish? He should save a trip next time and just meet Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for a summit at the UN. Or maybe Cuba? Viva la fucking Revolucion! I wish I could nationalize transnational oil companies, keep the government's portion of the profits for myself and my cronies and keep the 37% living below the poverty line there where they belong.
Careful there, BSB.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
01:18:25 PM
Socialist chicks have to give it up to everybody.
Nice review with one exception
by Miami Mofo
Aug 6th, 2007
01:21:20 PM
Ummm Mori, I hope you are aware that Kristen Stewart did not play a boy in Panic Room. She played a girl named Sarah Altman. Meanwhile I am really looking forward to this film and your statement that it is as good as Indian Runner leaves me with high hopes. Indian Runner is a terrific movie. Of course my opinion might be biased because I am a major Bruce Springsteen fan and the video that Sean Penn did for Bruce's song, Highway Patrolman using shots from Indian Runner is, in my opinion, the best Springsteen video ever made.
Kristen Stewart DID look like a boy in Panic Room
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
01:33:04 PM
Side note: Just watched Letters from Iwo Jima yesterday. Thumbs up.
TheRealMoriarty
by Mosquito March
Aug 6th, 2007
01:33:08 PM
It's also 'so patently' my opinion, Drew. And, in my opinion, there are a lot of young actors running around who look like other established actors - and sometimes act like other actors, too, copping their mannerisms and facial expressions. When I saw this guy in THE GIRL NEXT DOOR (which was all-around dreadful), I thought he looked and acted like DiCaprio; I believe that factored into why they cast him, and I haven't really bought him in anything else I've seen him in since. I think it's awesome that you love this guy in this movie, and maybe he'll do something for me this time. Sean Penn directed it, Kaki King plays on the soundtrack - there are many reasons for me to see this film. Emile Hirsch is not one of those reasons. I'll give him a chance. But, I'm pretty sure I'll still have the right to not take seriously an actor that you really, really want me to like.
Messi - about Edward Zwick and Oscar baiting
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
01:36:21 PM
Have you seen Blood Diamond? Fantastic movie that deserves any Oscar accolades it got. Best career performance from DiCaprio and Djimon Honsou was incredible.
I'm just glad Shia LeBeouf is not in this movie
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
01:42:36 PM
I need a vacation from Shia.
Chavez: Senior Prick Face
by TheBloop
Aug 6th, 2007
02:03:57 PM
I work with a left -wing moonbat from Chapel Hiil. The other day I heard talking about how Chavez is "bringing power to the people" I asked if by "power to the people" he means: ruling by decree, abolishing any term limits, shutting down television and radio stations that might be critical of you, abolishing the poitical opposition party, and firing all government workers who are not onboard the "socialism or death" platform. He had a confused look on his face, and he went back to listening to his Alex Jones conspiracy pod cast.
Under The Banner of Heaven!!!!!!
by lost.rules
Aug 6th, 2007
02:05:11 PM
Damn, I'm stupid. That's what I meant. Great Book, forgive my fudging the title.
Hugo Chavez is bringing power to the people
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
02:11:09 PM
and he gotta crack some heads to do it. Vive la Revolucion!
SoylentMean
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
02:18:15 PM
Well, there is something to be said for the balance of the global economy. A seismic shift in the nature of a global resource paradigm could mean catastrophic consequences for other nations.

Let's say the US finally cracks the "How to Implement the Alternative/Clean Fuel Code". It gets monopolized by the oil industry (saving their asses and those of their shareholders), it's made affordable to the average consumer, and America suddenly takes charge of the new Earth-friendly green-technology revolution. What happens to those nations whose oil-based economies begin to see a drastic decline in the export of their only commodity? (Nevermind the fact that this particular resource was already marked for extinction long ago.) Someone is going to get left holding the bag.

Nations with oil-based economies might use their own
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
02:23:01 PM
natural resource to develop their infrastructures. Unheard of, I know. Even if the West were to implement new energy technologies and reduce reliance on oil, there will ALWAYS still be a need for oil, as well as any energy source, until it is depleted. The oil companies are saving electric car technology for the day we finally run out of oil, then you'll see electric cars everywhere. We are but sheep at their mercy. Vive la revolution!
Why Hugo Chavez hates Peter Jackson...
by Uncapie
Aug 6th, 2007
02:24:13 PM
..he had the ring he wanted thrown into the fire. I can see Chavez saying, "The precious! The precious!"
Sean Penn needs to lighten up
by BobParr
Aug 6th, 2007
02:26:58 PM
The guy is so grim and takes himself so seriously. Lighten up! The movies he directs are so depressing.
Daniel Radcliff as Hugo Chavez, Emile Hirsh as Dick
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
02:29:09 PM
Cheney and Emma Watson as the Chancellor of Germany. Discuss.
Yes. Whenever bringing power to the people...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
02:30:18 PM
... one must first take it away.

And with that, I nominate myself Emperor of the Known Universe. Thank you.

Sean Penn is the Yin, Brett Ratner is the Yang
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
02:30:54 PM
The universe is in balance. Vive la Revolucion!
Nations with oil-based economies
by TheBloop
Aug 6th, 2007
02:32:05 PM
I love how Chavez Senior Prick Face gives a speech at the UN saying how disgusted he is at seeing all the cars driving around with one person in them. That is really funny, seeing how he is one of the one of the world's biggest oil producers. If he is such a steward of the environment, how about using Ethanol instead like Brazil? Oh, that is because, being socialist and making some Bush Jokes = pass from liberals on the environment. Much like Gore gives China a pass, even though they emit more emission that the US does now. Welcome to Crazy World..
lost.rules
by pikagreg
Aug 6th, 2007
02:33:41 PM
"under the banner of heaven" is a terrific book, made even more interesting when you live in Utah. The mormon church has told their members not to read it, because it is not "faith inspiring." interestingly enough, just recently there was a poll in the local newspaper where members of the mormon church have said they don't want their history sanitized.
Love where this talkback has gone!
by theBigE
Aug 6th, 2007
02:35:21 PM
No mention of the movie - just Chavez and electric cars!
The Country Bears talkback ended up in the same place
by Garbageman33
Aug 6th, 2007
02:38:50 PM
Just so you know.
Does anyone watch Big Love?
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
02:41:41 PM
I would love to have Ginnifer Goodwin as a 3rd wife. Fucking hot ass in a nice girl package.
SoylentMean, I call bullshit
by TheBloop
Aug 6th, 2007
02:59:43 PM
No pain or fear required. Just make it cost the same or cost less. Instead of "carbon taxes" give more "green tax breaks". If people had a choice of having the money they spend on powering their car go to farmers in the midwest or brazil, or going to President Tom in Iran to help him with the costs of his next "Holocaust Seminar", I think they will choose wisely. By the way, The Bratz: The movie talk back is now on the subject illegals using federal programs
Hirsch is another one of those midgets. 5'5?
by GQtaste
Aug 6th, 2007
03:05:22 PM
Just like Shia Lajew they're both little boys.
I posted about Sean Penn and got my ass kicked
by emeraldboy
Aug 6th, 2007
03:17:02 PM
His personal loss of his brother aside which must hurt him very much, seriouslly. Most people, can laugh at themselves. Even in puppet form. But Sean Penn, in the way he reacted (or over-reacted) to the Team american skit is indicitive of why I cant stand the guy. What happened to him in his life that he ended up a sour-puss. I dont agree with name calling normally, but the title Posion penn seems apt. I loved his performance in Richard Nixon and thought he should have won the oscar for it. He seemed perfect for it. He always looked so wound up. I think he has gone too far with this whole chaves business.
The pledge
by emeraldboy
Aug 6th, 2007
03:22:36 PM
seen it. wasnt bad. Got tired towards the end. and a bit repetitive.
working for penn
by emeraldboy
Aug 6th, 2007
03:24:08 PM
must be a real barrel of laughs. I dont think.
Bush's ultra radicalism drives the Left's
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
03:29:23 PM
and Karl Rove and Fox know it. Before you point fingers at Sean Penn, first point them at Sean Hannity.
What happened to Sean Penn, you ask?
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
03:36:27 PM
He read too much Charles Bukowski.
Maybe he can do ON THE ROAD and DHARMA BUMS?
by Bean_
Aug 6th, 2007
03:47:58 PM
Sounds like Penn knocked this road movie out of the park...
And SoylentMean...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
04:01:37 PM
... I don't believe we need a "world-wide, all-encompasing catastrophe" at all. In fact, that's what would disrupt the global balance of economy and bring about the catastrophic consequences I hinted at earlier. That's what we don't want. What is needed is a reasoned and efficient implementation of the new technology (fuel) so that it's quickly absorbed into the mainstream. In my opinion, the best case scenario is for the conversion to happen in mid-stride.

I think the urge to get this alterna-fuel ball rolling is already there. It's primed and ready to go. All the industry (and government) has to do is show that it works, that it's convenient, and that it's affordable. When they start making it readily available (like the CD, the cellphone, or the Hybrid) people will flock to it. Rolling it out across the rest of the world might be a bigger problem. But I don't believe it's one that mankind can't solve.

Chavez is an evil motherfucker
by Quin the Eskimo
Aug 6th, 2007
04:03:17 PM
along with his buddies Mahmoud Ahmadienjad, and Fidel Castro. Oh, I'm so stupid for thinking so!! So fucking Eurocentric!! Such a product of institutional western bias!! Gnashing of teeth!! Self flagellation!! If I only understood!!
Chavez likes Eli Roths giant unit.
by BillyPilgrim
Aug 6th, 2007
04:05:29 PM
He also chose HD-DVD but would not tell me why. He used to have 7000 myspace friends but he had them all killed or jailed because they became political dissidents. Now he just surfs AICN looking for this years Little Miss Sunshine.
Motherfucker better gird his loins
by Quin the Eskimo
Aug 6th, 2007
04:08:48 PM
I may send Dale Gribble after him.
SQUIRREL TACTICS!
by Quin the Eskimo
Aug 6th, 2007
04:15:30 PM
that's right.
SoylentMean
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Aug 6th, 2007
04:32:50 PM
You may be right. But I think it's high-time we start believing in humanity because there is no one out there who can help us but ourselves.
back to the fundamental issue
by occula
Aug 6th, 2007
04:42:57 PM
it's all well to bang the drum about sean penn, dictators, and, uh, oil, but the real frustration here is this is another story about a dumbass who goes into the wilderness with rose-colored glasses. i get so frustrated with the glorification of people like that. remember the rockclimber who was climbing alone, got his arm stuck in a crack and fucking amputated it himself? and it was like 'when's the movie coming out, what a hero' but the truth is that no responsible climber climbs alone, and now the dude's got a plastic arm. well done you. there's a difference between a kerouackian journeyman and a fool who's basically saying 'bear, please eat me, i am the weakest member of the herd.' i would say it sends a bad message if anybody gave a shit about the message, but i know nobody really does, so i'll just say it's a really aggravating thing to glorify.
however, krakauer is awesome
by occula
Aug 6th, 2007
04:45:31 PM
i love the clear directness of his work and am literally holding my breath for some intrepid filmmaker to tackle 'under the banner of heaven,' which is undoubtedly one of the most horrific things i've ever read.
All americans should pay a visit to Venezuela.
by hank henshaw
Aug 6th, 2007
04:49:01 PM
Especially those that sympathize with Chavez only because of his anti-Bush rhetorics. Now, don't do like Sean Penn that spent his vacations on a 5 star hotel and protected by the country's national guard. Also, stay away from the snobbish east side of Caracas, dammit! Go stay some place in downtown Caracas. You'll love it there. Oh, those that support Chavez love Americans, just make them understand you don't like Bush.
oh, i didn't mean the book glorified the story.
by occula
Aug 6th, 2007
05:12:00 PM
i meant that shooting a flashy movie (never mind the low-key style, anything involving sean penn is flashy) about it is glorifying it...
Typical
by Kree42
Aug 6th, 2007
05:20:33 PM
In America ,as this book and movie prove, we continue to reward the stupid and weak (not that being ill makes you weak). The great land of the mediocre and where simple is ,oh so good. Go to sleep America your goverment is in control. By the way I do love this country ,but damn it stop the stupid.
pain/fear
by TheBloop
Aug 6th, 2007
05:36:58 PM
what paradigm shift ever came about without it? Hello, the thing we are using now, the internet. And BringingSexyBack, nothing, I mean nothing, that Hannity ever did will reach the heights of moronic self-importance as Sean Penn's "fact finding mission" to Iraq. If I have to explain why then you need a live at home therapist.
No tears please.....
by TheBloop
Aug 6th, 2007
06:05:02 PM
It is a waster of good suffering. So says Pinhead.
Sure, TomBodet...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 6th, 2007
06:09:20 PM
... I guess I could just eliminate everything else and get right to the "THUMBS UP!" if that would make it easier for you. I'm sorry I actually put time and energy into crafting a review that tries to place the film in a larger context or that tries to set it into the continuum of the careers of the people responsible for it. How silly of me. How very fucking silly indeed.
And For The Record...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 6th, 2007
06:10:40 PM
... it's thirteen paragraphs. The first is just Sean Penn. The fourth picks up the actual film. And the rest deal directly with the movie. So your example is "clever," but it's also sort of full of shit.
Soylent...
by TheRealMoriarty
Aug 6th, 2007
06:39:40 PM
... I can only imagine how incredible Alaska is in person. The people I know who have been seem slightly humbled by it when they return.

And I'm not "bent out of shape," per se. I just think it's a cheap shot that Bodet posted, and inaccurate. If that review above is me talking around the subject aimlessly for, as he put it, "4 pages," then I'd like to see what he considers focused.

I was afraid of this...
by Uga
Aug 6th, 2007
06:51:46 PM
I read the book years and years ago, and always viewed McCandless as either mentally ill, or a pompous asshole. I was afraid Penn would make him a kind of romantic hero, and apparently he has.
Seen this, heard this, I really dig this.
by theWiz
Aug 6th, 2007
06:53:09 PM
Unbelievably great work by Eddie Vedder and Sean Penn. I need this soundtrack ASAP. Vedder howls like I imagine the Alaskan wild to sound. This movie could be no less than very good, but Vedder's music makes this move great. Emile Hirsh does a fine job, Hal Holbrook will make you cry. Great American movie.
Jewel Kilcher came from Alaska
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
06:53:46 PM
She is so damned hot, I want a taste of Alaska through Jewel, if you know what I mean.
and...
by theWiz
Aug 6th, 2007
06:55:12 PM
I haven't read the book, mostly because of the self-imposition of the author into the story. It might be a great device, but that is one of the things I dislike about our current hierarchy of writers; the hype of the author as opposed to the work itself.
I side with Mori on the TomBodet post
by BringingSexyBack
Aug 6th, 2007
06:55:56 PM
Mori really makes a great effort to give us a thorough, thought-out, insightful review, only to have it demeaned and ridiculed unfairly. But Drew, you should know that TomBodet just likes to hear himself type, nothing personal about it. He's queer that way.
Jewel = Snaggle TOOTH
by TheBloop
Aug 6th, 2007
08:43:13 PM
But I would sleep with her if I had too.
poor shia...
by ilikemovies
Aug 6th, 2007
09:00:08 PM
this kid is about to get his thunder stolen. I'm glad Emile is making real, entertaining movies. Alpha Dog was surprisingly good, and he was great in it. I'm watching this movie just for him, Sean Penn is just a plus.
HEY MORI I THOUGHT YOU TOOK A TRIP INTO THE WILD TO...
by Deus Vult
Aug 6th, 2007
09:26:44 PM
Venezuela with Sean Penn and Danny Glover by the subject line of this here story. I love Sean Penn! What a commie! What a traitor to his country. First her married madonna and then he went "red"...at least he used to know how to throw a decent right hook!
HEY BSB I THINK YOU'RE ON TO SOMETHING HERE
by Deus Vult
Aug 6th, 2007
09:28:00 PM
with that "taste of alaska" line...do I hear NEW AICN CATCH PHRASE ANYONE?!?
This'll go directly to video in 3...2...
by thegreatwhatzit
Aug 7th, 2007
10:43:28 AM
1.
Penn: boxoffice poison
by thegreatwhatzit
Aug 7th, 2007
10:46:09 AM
Jesus, even the left wingers make fun of this asshole. Penn, a p.r. parasite, kindled the arrogance to remake ALL THE KINGS MEN which turned into another one of his commercial flops.
thegreatwhatzit
by messi
Aug 7th, 2007
12:04:15 PM
wasn't all the king's men more notable for being Jackie Earle Haley's comeback vehicle which has thus far led to play motherfucking Rorschach. Worth it existing I say.
One less cheechako...
by UnCoolNews
Aug 7th, 2007
12:14:36 PM
While I don't think Krakauer glorified this idiot, it seems pretty obvious that what Penn's doing. Like Treadwell, McCandless was warned MANY times that he was committing suicide by not respecting what he was getting himself into. Both, in my opinion, got exactly what they deserved and neither should be romanticized as idealistic, courageous or brave. Arrogant, irresponsible, self-righteous and stupid are more appropriate adjectives for anyone who runs off to Alaska from somewhere else and ignores the warnings and advice of the people who have lived and survived there. Come to think of it, those adjectives seem to increasingly describe Sean Penn as well.
ilikemovies
by messi
Aug 7th, 2007
12:17:08 PM
shia is making some big movies. and transformers wasn't entertaining? what the fuck?
Soylent
by UnCoolNews
Aug 7th, 2007
12:58:49 PM
I disagree that Alaskans in general would see McCandless as tragic. I think most would lump him with Tredwell as as someone who, either through mental defect or outright stupidity, didn't respect nature and paid for that lack of respect with his life. McCandless falls into the same category as the dozens of people who go hiking in Alaska every year without taking the necessary precautions and have to be rescued when they get lost or hurt. There's nothing tragic about that. It's the inevitable result of arrogance.
Id as soon Let Brett Ratners Tranny Blow me
by artie langes nut
Aug 7th, 2007
01:16:44 PM
Then pay my money to see this pile of crapola
I Want To See A Movie About A Left Wing Actor...
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 7th, 2007
01:51:20 PM
...who meets with some maniac dictator and gets taken hostage. Some right wing actor or talk show host will personally attempt a rescue and also get taken hostage. Then, they have to team up to escape. It's one of those, whaddya call 'em, buddy pictures.
See, It's Funny Becuz They Hate Each Other And...
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 7th, 2007
01:52:59 PM
...their both stupid. Got it! Left wing actor rescued by right wing country singer. What could be stupider than that?
"Their" Both Stupid?
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 7th, 2007
01:56:29 PM
They're both stupid. Stupid lack of edit feature once again wrecks poetic justice on the bored and snarky.
An Actor Wants To Meet With You, Senor Presidente.
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 7th, 2007
02:18:38 PM
"An actor? Is it that Tomas Hanks? He is muy likable!"

"No, your rebelliousness. It's--"

"Is Matt Damon? Bourne, perhaps?"

"Not exactly, you Che Guevaraship--"

"It cannot be Al Pacino? Scarface himself to meet me?"

"It's Sean Penn, sir."

"Ah! Bond. James Bond!"

"That would be Sean Connery. Sean Penn is...Spicoli."

"Even better! People on luudes should not drive, eh? Eh? Ha-ha-ha! Awesome, totally awesome?"

"Yes, sir."

"He married Madonna. Evita Peron herself. Will the First Lady be accompanying Presidente Penn?"

"No, sir, they are not--"

"Antonio, that is not the answer I want to hear. You know what happens when I hear the answer I do not want to hear. Now, will Madonna be visiting with her husband?"

"Uh, yes, El Presidente."

"Excellente! Excellente! Perhaps, I can get her alone. Ah, if only Al Pacino were coming. To steal Michelle Pffeifer from him would be the greatest victory for our way of life!"

Guys, Most Arkansasans AGREE With McCandless...
by Buzz Maverik
Aug 7th, 2007
05:44:42 PM
...and the guy that got eaten by bears. They think they're A-OK. In fact...Alaskans? That's different.
speak ill vs. tell the truth
by UnCoolNews
Aug 7th, 2007
06:45:17 PM
McCandless was not naïve. He was warned repeatedly how dangerous it was to hike into the Alaskan wilderness alone and unprepared. He ignored the warnings and went anyway. I do agree that Treadwell was by far the bigger asshole, though. (Sorry to speak ill of the dead but really, that guy was a douche.) The reason I lumped them together is because they have both been portrayed by Hollywood as innocent idealists when, in fact, they were either mentally ill or incredibly stupid. I think Krakauer's book leaves that question kind of open-ended regarding McCandless but whichever the case, he had no more business in the Alaskan wilderness than Treadwell did playing with bears. Nature didn't kill them; they killed themselves as surely as if they had jumped off a cliff. They would make great cautionary tales if they were portrayed the way they really were: reckless. Instead they are both deified as enlightened and in harmony with nature whey they were anything but. Nobody's making movies romanticizing people who jump off cliffs (excluding the documentary about the people who jump of the Golden Gate) so why do people romanticize these two?
Not romanticized as much as sympathized
by UnCoolNews
Aug 7th, 2007
09:37:03 PM
Soylent, I think you were more likely to realize how dangerous Treadwell's situation was because you'd been to Alaska and heeded the caution and warnings of the people who lived there regarding bears. Treadwell wasn't romanticized as much as McCandless but I've still heard the movie described as a "tragic tale" or about the "unfortunate fate" of a "remarkable man". I think the overwhelming feeling in Alaska is that it was more of an inevitable end to someone who refused to listen to warnings about the danger of what he was doing.
messi
by ilikemovies
Aug 7th, 2007
09:44:24 PM
yeah, shia was about the only entertaining part of transformers. I like him, but come on, judging from those pictures his role in indy 4 is going to suck...i would have liked to have seen him in something more substantive. Nevertheless, Emile should be (and hopefully will be) getting just as much, if not more credit for his work.
Didn't Realize...
by Anton_Sirius
Aug 8th, 2007
02:30:30 AM
Werner Herzog = Hollywood, UnCool...
I hate traveling
by Batutta
Aug 9th, 2007
08:42:59 PM
I love being different places, I just despise the getting there part intensely. Teleportation can't come fast enough for me...Oh, and this movie looks good.
It's a good book...
by skoobyx
Aug 9th, 2007
09:57:39 PM
Trazadone's not just my favorite hangover inducing sleep aid, he's a guy with good points. The protagonist stikes me as mentally ill much like Treadwell although it isn't as obvious or at least not obvious in the same way. There's a lot of things that pull us into the wild and they're not all easy to put your head around. Sounds like a good movie.
penn is a wacko communist
by ZO
Aug 10th, 2007
08:56:17 AM
who couldnt make a good movie if castro gave him advice
Sean Penn went INTO THE WILD to find his sense of humor
by MrMysteryGuest
Aug 11th, 2007
03:24:08 PM
'Nuff said.
Hugo Chavez is the ugliest man on the face of the Earth
by MrMysteryGuest
Aug 11th, 2007
03:26:22 PM
He's someone Jack Kirby would've drawn as one of Darkseid's minions. :P
Meanwhile, Sean Peen still hasn't found...
by MrMysteryGuest
Aug 11th, 2007
03:29:36 PM
his sense of humor, but found Chris Rock making fun of him (Jude Law couldn't be reached for comment).
This movie looks pretty
by hookem2008
Aug 23rd, 2007
02:57:51 PM
This movie looks pretty good, I just watched the trailer at www.intothewild.com, I'm happy to see that it got such a good review here.
reminds me of...
by servnjstice
Sep 19th, 2007
01:39:35 AM
of an episode of MILLENNIUM Season 2.. I think the name of that episode was "Luminary"
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