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And The Director Of GEARS OF WAR And The ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK Remake May Be...

Very disappointing by FrodoFraggins	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:29:22 AM
hollywood doesn't GET IT
Bling Bling Money, shug knight is my bitch by Jason Eisener	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:30:04 AM
he is
Could Be Worse, I Suppose by Anton_Sirius	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:30:22 AM
coughUweBollcough
Gears of Bore by ScarStar	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:30:56 AM
...is what we'll get.
Someone called it after the first screening by BitterMan23	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:32:16 AM
of Die Hard Faux. Because of all the Gears plugs in it, they said he was just hinting he wanted to do it. Fuck it, I don't care, as long as Nick Chinlund plays Fenix.
Live Free, Die Hard- pure comic book movie. by Uncapie	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:34:16 AM
John McClane should have died at least ten times in that film, but hey, he's the hero and its a money-making franchise. Still, I did like the car that took out the helicopter bit. The F-35 Harrier-type jet and the 18 wheeler on the freeway was a little too far out though.
The American Paul W.S. Anderson by BigDude	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:35:25 AM
I hate hate HATE this guys work. He makes horribly devoid of character action films that just never work. I don't care about Gears of War, but I don't want him anywhere near Escape From New York. But I guess we all figured they would be fucking that remake up anyway.
Live Free or Die Hard sucked by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:35:28 AM
Thank god Jim Cameron is on his way back
If it means Kate Beckinsales fine ass by kingrobot	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:35:51 AM
appears in the movie then so be it.
Len Wiseman should not be let anywhere near this by misnomer	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:37:05 AM
it really is that simple. I recall DH getting a good script review on here too...but it looked like everything else killed it. EFNY hmmm....what about del toro? or someone like that....
its not a comic book movie!! by BigDude	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:37:24 AM
Have you ever read a comic book? Somehow comic books equate to silly over the top stunts for you? Fuck you.
Die Hard 4 was Great by Captain RawBeard	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:38:13 AM
apart from the Jet and 18 wheeler scene I thought it was a worthy entry into the Die Hard franchise. Len Wiseman would be good for Gears of War and it better be R Rated. Not sure about the Escape from New York remake though. Thank go its not Paul Anderson or Uwe Boll. Now that would have made me go Nooooooooooo
LForDH had some of the best... by SilentP	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:38:25 AM
action directing I've seen in a long time. Of course, I would prefer action movies drop the whole quick-cut editing bs altogether, but if it has to be done, Len Wisemen has shown he knows how to do it while still making it clear to the audience exactly what's going on at all times, which can't be said for most action directors these days. So I'm perfectly fine with this announcement, for now.
Fanboys are just jealous by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:39:31 AM
that Wiseman is boning Kate beckinsdale..his movies have been entertaining.
Blech by Batutta	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:41:19 AM
Len Wiseman is a hack...His movies have no personality, and his style is about as deep as the blue desaturating filter he throws over every shot...But he gets to bang Kate Beckinsale so what does he care what some anonymous internet jag-offs think.
Does Gears of War actually have a storyline? by Neo Zeed	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:42:59 AM
I was under the impression that it was just point and shoot stuff.
Those defending Len Wiseman by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:45:36 AM
need to go watch Road Warrior, Terminator, Aliens, Die Hard, Terminator 2. Because those are well made, exciting action movies with characters you care about.
Len Wiseman = PG-13 Snake Plisken by Neo Zeed	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:02:43 AM
I predicted that Die Hard was gonna be PG-13, and this will definitely be PG-13. We might as well accept it.
What happened to the Paul Rudd interview? by rev_skarekroe	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:09:08 AM
I had a great snappy comment to go with it.
YES for GOW, NO for NEW YORK by frg10	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:11:19 AM
I don't mind him directing action movies without a soul as he can pull of action sequences nicely. So go Wiseman direct Gears of War. But stay away from movies that needs talent from it's director and not only skills. So NO for New York remake, again NO for Die Hard and YES for GEARS OF WAR.
Lensman by kafka07	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:11:50 AM
his name keeps reminding me of that old school star wars-like anime by that name.
Well by Vern	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:16:17 AM
At least it could have some good action scenes. And if Kevin Smith was in it he could play a head on a stake. Still don't think they should do this, though. I want Kurt Russell as Snake again.
Direct to DVD, lets sing it by wowsucks	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:26:37 AM
Direct to DVD, lets sing it together now. Think they will hire the rock for the Gears movie? I think Gear's could be made into a pure balls to the wall action movie, problem is finding the script and director that could do it. God with the way movies are going today just wait the Gears movie will have a love triangle.
See well, I love Underworld....both movies by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:31:23 AM
But as far as anyone remaking EFNY I think that idea just fucking sucks. We don't need to remake it. Just like they don't need a new cast playing TOS for the Star Trek "reboot". Why can't we just get something original? As far as GOW, I am fine with that. I think he will do a fine job with it.
Michael Davis by Spartacus Hughs	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:33:09 AM
Ideal.
Awesome, 2 less movies to worry about seeing by Mullah Omar	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:34:11 AM
This news helps me narrow down my viewing schedule. Len Wiseman is sub-mediocrity in the worst sense, ie it's not even so bad it's good, it's just a waste of time. Seeing his name on a film is kind of like seeing a Mister Yuck sticker on a household product - so I guess I'm glad to know in advance that this is crap.
Bad by TheNorthlander	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:39:05 AM
Does anyone have a bunker? We could round up Uwe Boll, Len Wiseman, Tim Story and Paul WS Anderson and lock them up. All we need is a bunker. Who's with me?
at least it isn't Uwe Boll by kafka07	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:43:25 AM
But seriously I think there is hope for Wiseman. Underworld I didn't like but that's partly because I hate both vampires and werewolves. It did have a style to it that was pretty good. Die Hard 4 was far from perfect but I enjoyed it, and some of its epic stunts and carnage are what will be needed for an apocalyptic New York and GOW. Is he the best choice? I'm not saying that he is. But he's not an altogether bad one. Alfonso Cuaron would be an interesting candidate, but realistically he's not going to touch a video game movie or a remake of an 80's film. Zack Snyder would be another good candidate but he's busy with Watchmen. Like him or not, because of the timing and because of his resume' Wiseman just happened to be the best choice at the time.
LOL ! by MattHooper	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:47:28 AM
Yea, I don't really like his movies, either LOL ! Escape from Dreary Moviemaking, to soon be followed by sequel: Escape from Box Office Profit !
And Big Dude takes the short bus to school... by Uncapie	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:52:17 AM
Just like in Fantastic Four #25 where the Thing fights the Hulk and half the city is torn up, Hulk #2 where he fights the Toad Men from space, the Mighty Thor #142 where Thor fights the Super Skrull(Many buildings destroyed as the city's inhabitants look on in awe.) or even Sgt. Fury And His Howling Commandos issues #18 and #19 where Pam Hawley dies and Fury goes to exact his revenge. Yeah, it is a comic book movie.
Well, he wrecked the Die Hard franchise..... by Stuntcock Mike	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:53:05 AM
Might as well wreck another good film.
NO REMAKE! by tile_mcgillus	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:53:09 AM
SEQUEL!!!!!!!!!!!! SEQUEL! GOD DAMNIT! More Russell Pliskin!
huh by PVIII	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:02:10 PM
I actually think Wiseman is a good choice for Gears, so fuck y'all. Also, everyone I know loved the new Die Hard, and while it should've been R, I still heartily enjoyed myself.
Wiseman is a hack... by Judge Briggs	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:12:26 PM
I hate his editing. So many stupid and claustrophobic close-ups.
NOOOOOOOO! There goes any chance of a decent EFNYremake by KillaKane	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:13:14 PM
Just don't like the Wiseman's vapid style-no-substance filmaking, uneven and poorly structured from what I've seen. Hated Die Hard 4, with err..a vengeance. Pissed off with such a lame choice, on a par with hiring Anderson to remake Death Race.
Not sure about EFNY but GOW sounds right by antonphd	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:15:02 PM
I think Wiseman would be pretty perfect for a GOW movie. I think his Underworld films show that he'd be a great match for GOW. As for EFNY... I don't know... he showed marked improvement from the Underworld films with LFDH... he could make another leap. Tough to say. BUT BUT BUT BUT and this is a really important factor here... who the hell else is there to direct better action movies that is still interested in making them?
dammmmmmmnnn by BurgerKing	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:15:37 PM
Just because Die Hard is a hit the studios think he's fuckin Zack Snyder and can pick whatever project he wants? Gears has a horrible plot so I suppose he'd be fine with just chainsawing people up with mindless action which is cool, it wouldn't be bad for him, but for god sake, get better CGI in your films! As for Escape, he's too much of an idiot to be able to handle that properly.
I agree with SilentP by David Cain	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:18:18 PM
Live Free or Die Hard had some fresh action. I hated the Underworld movies but I was surprised by this as someone who didn't really care for Wiseman and a fan of the older movies. The action in that movie was better than the action in that John Hughes knock off with the giant robots that had about 45 minutes of action and over 100 minutes of garbage & GM advertising. Only The Bourne Ultimatum topped DH 4 this summer as far as action. So I'm down with the Gears of War thing, don't really care for another John Carpenter movie remake either way though.
Wiseman is a lucky lucky man. by HarryBlackPotter	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:20:20 PM
His career is on the up and up and despite what Merrick the half-wit says, he IS a good visual artist. Sure, Underworld was underwhelming, but the sequel surprised me by being a far superior sequel with great action. And I really, really dug DH4. But he's also married to the gorgeous Kate Beckinsale, so you gotta hand it to the guy. He's one lucky fella.
Underworld=Bullshit by TheBloop	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:21:18 PM
Leave it to this assclown to make a movie about a war between Vampires and Werewolves boring. Kate B, please do some soft core pron before you do these stupid movies again.
Len Wiseman is worse than... by Gozu	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:22:38 PM
Paul W.S. Anderson, Rob Zombie, AND Uwe Boll. Why? Because his films are tedious exercises that really serve only to remind you of the films he's ripping off. At least I can have fun watching "Mortal Kombat," "House of the Dead," or "Devil's Rejects" even if they're bad movies.
Wiseman by skimn	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:25:44 PM
didn't totally fuck up Die Hard, although I thought the finale was pretty weak. When will Hollywood learn though...has there been a good movie at all made from a video game? And NO, as a movie that made sense Silent Hill doesn't count. Sure it was atmospheric and creepy, but as a movie it sucked. Doom had as much if not more potential than this, and look at that crapfest. And if New York must be remade, I was holding out for the guy who directed The Nest. As least he's got some visual style.
Remaking Escape from NY? by ricarleite	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:28:56 PM
Why?? Why just not make him escape Detroit or Tokyo this time?
Lets give the guy a chance... by Racer Z	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:42:03 PM
I enjoyed the Underworld movies. Yeah, they're not to deep, but they are stylish and fun. I can't speak for the latest Die Hard since I haven't seen it and frankly don't care to. I mean, let's keep it real folks, there's never been anything too intellectual about what has been essentially an action film formula. The first Die Hard is good, but little more than an a lot of shooting and blowing stuff up. The second was the same movie in an airport. And the third was just Dirty Harry wrapped in a Die Hard package. So I'm not sure what everyone expected from another one. Cut Wiseman some slack. He's young and can still grow as a filmmaker. There's definitely potential there.
Wiseman is the new WS. by polyh3dron	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:46:07 PM
He gets the gigs directing the properties we love, and he turns them to SHIT.
Kate Beckinsale........wow by liljuniorbrown	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:49:06 PM
That woman has an ass that makes me loose all normal thoughts. If he screws up EFNY he'd better have a back up plan,cause his career's over.
Who were you expecting? by epitone	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:50:37 PM
No, really. An ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remake? Even done well, who would go near it? Marcus Nispel, Uwe Boll, Rob Zombie. Maybe -- MAYBE -- it could have fallen into the hands of someone whose name rhymes with "Wet Shatner." But Len Wiseman ain't exactly unexpected. At least we know this much: Kate Beckinsale will have work!
Escape From Detroit... by skimn	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:52:15 PM
..lol...I did that 15 years ago...
I hope it will be more Die Hard 4.0 than Underworld. by DerLanghaarige	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:00:24 PM
Although Triple X 4.0 wasn't that good anyway, it was at least much, much better than Underworld!
They should get Alex Proyas. by TheNorthlander	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:04:45 PM
Or Robert Rodriguez. Or Martin Campbell or Paul Veerhoven or even Yahoo Serious before considdering Len Wiseman.
So a director is fucking an actress? by Kirk's Toupee	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:05:46 PM
Hmmm...I've never heard of that happening before.
Live Free was a mess by SpencerTrilby	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:11:46 PM
terrible script with plot holes so fuckin huge you can't even try to pretend you haven't noticed them, lame attempts at humor that reminded me of Lethal Weapon 3, no tension whatsoever, an awful bad guy, chopped up editing and these FUCKING BLUE FILTERS. Of course there's John MaFUCKINGClane and a couple of nice moneyshots, but it doesn't redeem the movie for being a self-indulgent mess that starts "gritty" (well, by PG-13 standards) and ends up goofy (the last action scene negates EVERYTHING that precedes: same that DHWAV, except that that one was clever, suspenseful and SamJackson-ish). I don't care about GoW (like someone said earlier it's a decent game because of the looks and some nice gamplay: not really screaming "GOOD MOVIE MATERIAL" like other worthy games) but the good EFNY script review made this project intriguing. Well, not anymore.
He's a bad choice by MatDGZ	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:12:52 PM
If New Line say 'yes' to this they are carving the letters into the tombstone of the movie. Wiseman sucks balls. He's a good 2nd unit director - the actions great but everything else is a sack of shit. EFNY should be in the hands of a filmmaker like David Fincher - I'd pay to see that.
Will there be any Crab Walking or Chainsaw Glitches .. by budbundy1978	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:17:16 PM
in the gears movie? This shouldnt be a hard movie to screw up..Hire Batista as Marcus Fenix, follow the plot of the game, make it really violent and instant smash hit... It's never nap time, baby!
Re: TheNorthlander by Rendell	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:20:09 PM
Holy Fuck, Paul Veerhoven does Gears of War!!! That would be a match made in (Action movie) heaven!
It really isnt hard to screw up a gears movie... by budbundy1978	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:27:43 PM
No stupid love story angle (well Dom's search for his wife and son, who are dead)..and Marcus trying to find his Dad..other than those two simple plots, the whole movie is about 4 big, bad ass guys, kicking locust ass ...the game doesnt really have much of a plot other than that ...As long as Carmine makes a cameo, its all good...i hope they don't CG the locust..Raam would be a beast on screen....maybe cgi the kryill and the corpsers.....it would be great..theres no way he could screw this up unless he casts pretty boys for marcus and dom.. Im in the zone baby!
The worst mistake a director can make... by Frank Black	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:28:33 PM
...Video game adaptations & remakes. Die Hard 4 was fun for the first 90 minutes and then it was exhaustingly cheesy and over the top. Wiseman has potential but these are steps backwards. Gears is a fun game but wouldn't make a good movie and Escape From NY doesn't need a remake.
I'm an early John Carpenter fan... by Racer Z	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:28:40 PM
but when he fails, he falls flat on his face. Escape From L.A., Vampires, Ghosts of Mars? There was very little (if anything) interesting about those films. That said, I would still like to see a 50 something Kurt Russell take on Snake one more time. And don't get me wrong from my earlier comment about Wiseman. While I think he's a young director with great potential, I REALLY don't want to see anyone remake EFNY.
Lets talk casting now. The Rock will be in both. by Baron Karza	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:38:40 PM
Because Hollywood dont fucking care.
DO you people now see why its important to NOT.... by IndustryKiller!	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:43:18 PM
see these awful fucking genre films when they hit theaters? When a shit director does something you know will be awful, like let's say the next Die Hard movie, you vote the only way you can, with your wallet and online hype. Leading up to the film dont make bullshit justifications and tepid praises about how it could be "ok" or "the action might be watchable" or "I like Vampires so I liked Underworld." and then see it in theaters when you know damn well its going to be garbage. But nope, the film was a minor hit and now this fucking hack gets to make not one but TWO film projects that in the right hands might have worked. Ok well EFNY wont work in principle alone but you know what I mean. So let's cut this shit out and stop going to see these shit films by these know nothing loser directors and then tear them to shreds rather than make excuses and apologize for them when they come out and maybe we'll actually accomplish something. Comprende?
Kurt Russel, and Bruce Campbell by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:50:09 PM
need to make a movie called.... "Escape from the Evil Dead"
MEH...GOW does not really by lionbiu	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:53:07 PM
MEH...GOW does not really have a storyline so he should be fine with that. Die Hard 4 was alright, it was far better than Transformers in action and acting so I don't get the hate. There never should be a remake of Escape from New York..a sequel, yes!
Ang Lee's Escape From New York by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:53:44 PM
Yes lots of exploration of deep emotional character issues making us really FEEL for them. $100 million opening weekend guaranteed.
The EFNY script may be "surprisingly good"... by Head In A Box	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:59:10 PM
...still does not mean a remake should EVER happen. I fucking REFUSE to see it.
Overreact much? by RAVENL0RD	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:05:34 PM
First off, the Underworld films are not nearly as bad as you all say they are. I have not seen Live Free or Die Hard yet, so I can't comment on it, but it looked decent and reviews were in the 70% on Rotten Tomatoes, if that means anything. I think Escape's success will hinge on the casting of Snake. Gears just needs to be crap blowing up and it will be fine.
Are you kidding by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:06:30 PM
the Underworld films are right up there with Jessica Simpson on the wall of fucking stupid
Can someone explain WHY we need an EFNY remake? by BringingSexyBack	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:13:22 PM
May as well remake Wizard of Oz with Paris Hilton.
Mother fu... (gunshot) by taxman2001	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:13:43 PM
Nuff said...
who is merrick anyway by Meatbiscuit	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:22:00 PM
harry does jack shit around here nowadays, except bore people about his life....blah. lame.
How about a black Snake Plissken and a white Duke of NY by BringingSexyBack	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:28:15 PM
and make them both homosexual, just to spice things up.
Sad story. Got a smoke? by TheHolyDeuce	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:31:21 PM
Gears of War might be a fun way to kill a couple of hours. But why reinvent Escape from New York? It's about as unnecessary as panties on Britney Spears.
I wouldn't mind a remake of Alien by BringingSexyBack	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:40:15 PM
if Kate Beckinsale does that open crotch shot with a thong.
sadly by Halfbreedqueen	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:40:21 PM
die hard 4 was the best action movie of the summer. tho im sure Bourne 3 will change that today. Pirates 3 sucked. Spidey 3 = eh. Fantastic Four was so bad I got a headache. And Transformers was just cheesy with really lazy action sequences. Despite problems, Die Hard 4 was fun. And Gears of War is basically a genre knockoff of action movies, so, who knows. Could be fine. Len did a decent job with Die Hard 4, and I never cared for the Underworld flicks but they weren't TERRIBLE.
Gears of War movie pitch: by smackfu	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:44:08 PM
"It's about this soldier...who ducks behind obstacles and shoots out around them."
Gears is fantastic online.single player is afterthought by Orionsangels	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:47:53 PM
There's no real story on the single player campaign and you'll finish it in two days. What made the game popular is multiplayer. I haven't stopped playing it since I got the game in December. That's where the magic of the game happens.
Oh, Christ! by oceanic86	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:50:36 PM
Fuck that guy! Speaking of videogame movies, though, my dream scenario would be Alfonso Cuaron directing a Half-Life 2 movie. Just thinking about it gives me chills. Too bad it will never happen in a million years.
ugh by lost.rules	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:54:12 PM
that is all
G.O.W casting by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:54:23 PM
So who's gonna play the asshole griefer?
gears of war rated pg13 by Evil Hobbit	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:36:55 PM
mark my words, no chainsaw people splitting
Good God Nooooooooo!!!!!!! by ChiTownsBest	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:43:36 PM
This is exactly the type of director who shouldn't be within a mile of an Escape From New York remake. His movies look waaaay to slick for a movie that should have some serious grit to it. An EFNY should have the feel and darkness of a Batman Begins and not the fake looking darkness and phony look of Underworld and Live Free Die Hard. I don't want to see Snake Plisken fight some Euro Trash metrosexual looking villain. This is so wrong on so many levels but I knew he was going to get a few too many opportunities after the success of LFDH. LFDH was not a Die Hard movie and I doubt that Snake will be the Snake we all know under Wisemans direction.
Wiseman > WankShit Anderson > Boll by Motoko Kusanagi	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:44:01 PM
So for me it's kinda good news. LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was the best summer sequel so far (Bourne still to come) and it wasn't any weaker/dumber/overblown than DIE HARD 2 or WAV. It surely wasn't anywhere near the original DIE HARD but nobody could honestly expect that. UNDERWURLDE 1+2 were crap, though. GEARS OF WAR is a nice but highly overrated action game with zero story, so what will the movie conversion be like regardless which director will do it... ESCAPE FROM NY remake? Nice. Hopefully it'll be better than the graying 80s version.
LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD was fine except for the jet scene by SpyGuy	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:46:21 PM
The pacing moved along nicely and was a decent outing for John McMrClean...er, McClane. The only thing that didn't work was the nonsensical truck vs. jet freeway battle, which came off as a completely unnecessary way to blow the film budget. As for an ESCAPE FOR NEW YORK remake, Wiseman may be a good pick if the studio feels they just HAVE to do it. His films have a slightly cheesy factor to them the same way John Carpenter's films do and they certainly aren't destined to win any Academy Awards any time soon. If nothing else, a Wiseman EFNY remake should be better than ESCAPE FROM L.A....
Gears of War Casting possibilities by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:46:25 PM
Michael Duncan Clark, Michael Chiklis, Duane "The Rock" Johnson, Michael Biehn,
Nobody's said it yet by skimn	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:50:20 PM
but any video game adaptation with "war" in the title should be GOD OF WAR!!
I can't understand how some people are OK with by SpencerTrilby	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:07:47 PM
Mr Beckinsale directing EFNY. First: this movie has no business to be remade, unless BOTH script and director are top notch. Which leads me to my second point: even if some were "pleasantly surprised" by LFoDH (that's what happens when you lower your expectations under the sea level) Wiseman is the prototype of the neutered, metrosexual yes man. He couldn't even fake rebellion and anti-conformism to save his life. Considering that the original EFNY is the ultimate "Fuck You Attitude" flick (along with Alex Cox and Tsukamoto films) he's nothing but a bad choice. I'm pretty sure the factors for his hiring are: 1/ the unholy success of LFoDH and 2/ some New Line exec watched the original EFNY for the first time last week and noticed the shattering similitudes between Carpenter's direction and Wiseman's: 7000 blue-filtered shots can't be wrong.
"aesthetically dense"?? by El Mono	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:08:59 PM
Wtf does that even mean? Merrick tries so hard not to sound dumb that he ends up doing just the opposite by his misuse "College" words. Cool your jets professor, they're just movies
Wiseman doesn't realy.... by mastes360	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:13:22 PM
bother me anymore, Live Free Or Die hard was a great action film imo and my favorite film of the summer. For that i think Wiseman deserves another chance.
Live Free or Die Hard was awesome by silver screen surfer	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:23:36 PM
Haters are wrong.
I have mentioned this before by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:35:34 PM
the thing about articles appearing on AICN, several days, sometimes over a week after the stories broke on other websites. It's no longer NEWS if old information, I think it's fairly weak sauce journalism, to write an article about someone else's article, what happened to the old underground journalism AICN used to have..... Oh yeah, AICN is basically advertising space for the production companies, if you need any evidence, I point you towards the rampant advertisments in the form of banners, i.e. figurines from the show prison break? are you fucking kidding me, prison break figures, It seems to me that some people are getting paid to write good reviews of bad movies, and paid to advertise really bad products. Now I understand that AICN has become a profitable business, but I think that it's coasting by at the moment, and the momentum it built up from back in the day, and I believe it's possible, the site could keep going on this momentum, but it could also slow down and come to a complete halt. I think an updated look is definately needed, maybe tabbed pages for the talkbacks, maybe an edit feature. Maybe some contests to win some DVD's. I dunno, I'm frusterated, I'm sorry
"Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!" by Jackie Boy	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:41:14 PM
my thoughts exactly.
Bah by McClane_Corleone	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:45:22 PM
There's no reason to remake Escape anyway. They should just do another sequel.
and the sequel should be by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:48:36 PM
Escape from the Evil Dead starring Kurt Russel and Bruce Campbell
Called this, just like all the people... by SoylentMean	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:18:22 PM
payig the fuck attention in LFODH. I don't get what people really expected from the Underworld films, they're pretty damn entertaining. LFODH still pisses me off for its pussying out and going all PG-13 on us. But Gears of War sounds like a cool project for Wiseman. He can film action and he doesn't shy away from the gore. Which is what Gears of War needs. No, the real griping here is that Wiseman needs to stay the fuck away from the Escape from New York remake.
What exactly does Die Hard 4 Being PG-13 by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:20:53 PM
Have to do with Wiseman? Did he executive produce and put up the money to make it?
PG-13 is relevant by SoylentMean	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:28:09 PM
because in order to achieve that particular rating for LFODH a ton of editing had to be done. I'm not blaming Wiseman for studio executive decisions, I'm just saying that it cut into my overall enjoyment of LFODH. Wiseman clearly has the chops for some brutal R rated action and Horror. You know where I read that before? In my previous fuckin' post!
Forgettable movies, forgettable director by sevadro	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:35:00 PM
It makes me sad that Hollywood is so hungry to buy up all these great properties - just to hand them off to flavor of the month "directors" like Len Wiseman. No doubt, the guy is very cool and very imaginative. He just doesn't have the raw talent to pull off the epic movie -- and I doubt he ever will. It's like they say - either you got it...or you don't. He should probably just stay home and fuck his piece of ass wife.
so what? by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:35:47 PM
My comment was more for the crowd bitching about a pg-13 rating than your particular post SM..it just makes no sense to blame a guy who is hired to make a film for the eventual rating..just like a grip he is an employee and if you put up 140 million to make a pic that group calls the shots..shit a lot of the times the editor etc..isn't even down with the director anyway..these are hired crews paid to deliver a product..for people to bag Wiseman for the rating is fucked..I am sure he would have loved to give you Yippee Ki Yay Motherfucker but that decision is not his to make.
PG-13 by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:01:05 PM
Live Free or Die Hard why was it rated PG-13, and also, apparently the word "Fuck" is allowed to be used under certain guidelines in a PG-13 movie. If a film uses "one of the harsher sexually derived words" (such as fuck) one to three times, it is routine today for the film to receive a PG-13 rating, provided that the word is used as an expletive and not with a sexual meaning (this was mentioned in Be Cool, when Chili Palmer complains about the movie industry. Fuck is said twice in that scene with a lot of other uses of language, giving the movie a PG-13). An example of a film that might suggest this criteria is Waiting for Guffman, which contains mostly PG-13 (some could even argue PG) content, yet is rated R (brief strong language) because a man auditioning for a role uses fuck while quoting Raging Bull (the only time it is spoken in the movie), in a sexual sense. Exceptions may be allowed, "by a special vote of the ratings board" where the board feels such an exception would better reflect the sensibilities of American parents. ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -- so why the fuck couldn't he say "yipee kay yay mother fucker"
Yeah I know Internet Thug by SoylentMean	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:02:57 PM
I was just being a jerk. My point is that Wiseman clearly isn't a PG-13 kinda director and that with a proper budget and a good fx team I think he'll do all right by a Gears of War movie. Just not so much by Escape From New York.
PG-13 by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:07:51 PM
Because Motherfucker is classified with Cunt as one of the really bad words.
rokurgepta by misnomer	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:16:28 PM
because motherfucker is a sexual use of the word fuck last time I checked?!?! as in you fuck your mother. fuck=sexual act. what the fuck? = no sexual connotation. this is fucking shit= no sexual connotation. go fuck yourself= sexual connotation.....
and LFODH sucked. having by misnomer	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:17:31 PM
and LFODH sucked. having extra blood and swearing in that movie wouldnt have saved it. DHWAV was a much better movie all round.
Kate Beckinsale=smokin hot by Mr Spork	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:17:58 PM
especially in the Underworlds
WISEMAN'S by The Real MiraJeff	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:22:21 PM
no Carpenter but I liked DH4 way more than the other bloated summer movies like Spidey 3 and Transformers. Sure the villain was weak, a major no-no in the DH franchise considering they've had Rickman and Irons foil McClane, but on the whole, it delivered some visceral thrills. Loved the threatening presidential montage and Justin Long was a pretty good addition too. The stuff with Lucy just didn't work, but I feel like the studio's more to blame for that decision, not Wiseman.
Wiseman is good at stealing people's wives, so... by The Dum Guy	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:27:05 PM
So, he has something else going for him, other than making movies.
GOW by supermarch	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:36:13 PM
Needs Dominic Sena. Wiseman will be good enough in 10 years....maybe.
I liked LFODH, I could have liked it more by SoylentMean	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:42:26 PM
If it had been the "R" rated version. Of course Megan Fox and that Aussie chick in Transformers should have been testing the depths of eachothers throats with their tongues for at least half that movie. Whilst naked and covered in oil! No, not the black gold kind either.
Last time I checked by SpencerTrilby	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:55:14 PM
when a director signs for a movie he endorses all of it: the good AND the bad. The movie he signed for wad PG-13 from the start, and had the "daughter-in-distress" silly subplot in it too. He chose to sign for it, hence he's responsible. Studios are evil (especially Fox) but this kind of de-responsabilisation (does that word exist? Now it does!) is bullshit. If the movie fails or succeeds it's his fault, period. He knew from the start, he could've said no. But he signed and shot the damn script, so he's in charge. People need to stop blaming studios when the faults are equally divided between Rothman (that man is a demon. Really) the screenwriters (they got paid for that POS?) and the director who puts his name on it eventually. It doesn't mean he's an auteur, just another yes-man.
alls i want is escape from earth by LarryTheCableGuy	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:01:13 PM
or whatever. part III would rule since L.A. had the fucking best movie ending ever.
LarryTheCableGuy, you have Direct TV, don't you? by SoylentMean	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:04:48 PM
I don't even remember how Escape from L.A. ended, but wasn't there some surfing in that movie?
Agreed by SpencerTrilby	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:07:27 PM
EFLA was weak overall, but the ending shows what Carpenter can achieve when one tackles CGI and anarchy altogether. FUCKIN BRILLIANT ENDING, almost redeems for the surfing Peter Fonda.
Who would they cast as Fenix? by LittleDudes	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:10:05 PM
http://tinyurl.com/3adc6q
admittedly the Underworld films were by Geek Sodomizer	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:12:01 PM
extremely mediocre. But I really enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard, and thought the direction was excellent. I think he's the perfect choice for Gears of War, maybe not so much the Escape remake but we'll see, maybe he'll do the script justice.
Funny how many by Internet Thug	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:15:12 PM
director's cuts have come out on dvd..every story about how the studio fucked over their vision and this is how they would have wanted it and we are eager to lap up their tales of big guy fucked me over after time..but for today's directors you try to hold them to a standard where they are the sole buck stops here guy.
hey LittleDudes by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:21:40 PM
your link is busted
WHY Hollywood doesn't get it.... by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:38:52 PM
it's because the "church" of Scientology has covertly and not so covertly bought off a large portion of hollywood, and well if anyone is off their fucking rockers, it's them. they fucking believe that paying money to the church enlightens them, and the more money they pay, the better people they are, also, they believe a fucking flying saucer is going to come rescue them someday. They are basically a not so secret society... fucking nutters
okay. by tango fett	Aug 3rd, 2007 08:37:40 PM
the question is, how could Wiseman take such a cool concept (Romeo and Juliet with VAMPIRES AND WEREWOLVES) and make it as boring as Underworld turned out to be? as that one guy said in that one thing I saw, "the mind boggles." still never saw Live Free or Die Hard but I heard it was really good. who knows? but yeah, is Escape From New York REALLY as great and awesome as you kids make it out to be? PS - story or no, I am stoked for a Gears of War movie all the way! okay, maybe that's not a good attitude, but still, to see the Hammer of Dawn put to good use would be nothing short of the TITS. WHOO! ~chest bumps nearest fat kid~
Kate Beckinsale as Snake Plissken? by kabong	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:30:48 PM
Or will she play the vampire princess? No vampires in EFNY? Oh, maybe there will be TEENS!!!!! Whatever, you know it's going to stink. It's over, Hollyweird; hurry up and die!
wiseman sucks by LarryTheCableGuy	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:56:06 PM
dh4 sucked, try watching it a 2nd time. its lame, the bad guy sucked, the action was ok but the inbetween stuff was stupid and theyre were no real cool other characters, and it was pg13. face it. i waited 13 years for nothing. plus the bruce willis's whole daughter and sidekick boy's been done in armageddon. the movie stunk and i'm sad. i don't blame wiseman for all this, but still he should have known better, and so should willis, and so should mcteirnan who produced it i think. underworld 1, i never saw 2, was so boring and stylish, a waste of the whole vampire vs wearwolves idea, almost makes howling 5 seem better than it was. werewolves fight vampires and they use guns?? come on. i can't believe anyone would defend this movie. lens wiseman can have a super hot wife but he'll never have my respect. i'm betting these guys all know that the worlds deffinately coming to an end and know the exact date and have decided to just make as much money they can possibly make producing hig grossing junk so they can live comfortably til then. as for escape from la, it had shitty fx, but it had great side characters, can't beat steve buschemi, bruce campbell, pam grier etc. and a great ending. it was cheesy but charming and fun.
hmm... by Denizzz	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:06:42 PM
I couldn't care less who directs Gears of War,since it will just be another shitty quick buck game adaptation anyway.Escape should not be touched by anyone except by Carpenter himself.Carpenter needs to get his act together and do some proper movies again.
WESLEY SNIPES FOR DUKE OF NEW YORK by Vern	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:23:30 PM
Sorry for the all caps but I felt it was necessary to overpower the sting of Snipes's current legal troubles. I was discussing this remake with a buddy of mine, the Michael Bay fan referred to in my TRANSFORMERS review, and I was wondering who they could get to play the Duke when he dropped that idea on me. I think it's brilliant. He was saying how Isaac Hayes was a great villain because he's the bad guy but he's so cool you like him anyway, even if you want Snake to kill him. And I think Wesley fits the bill for that. Think of Nino Brown in NEW JACK CITY. Wesley can play the cool part in his sleep, he can also do any more difficult acting if required, in fact they could even make the Duke fight if they wanted to due to his capoeria skills. Wiseman, you won me over with LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD. But you owe me for putting Kevin Smith in that shit. So think about it bud. You know it's the right thing to do.
I'd rather see a sequel by Jack Colby	Aug 4th, 2007 12:14:31 AM
If Harrison Ford can return as Indy Kurt Russell can sure as hell be back as Snake. This remake idea just seems wrong, but even so, Wiseman isn't the worst they could have picked. He's not an exciting choice though. And yes, Snipes would be good as the Duke if the movie must be remade. He'd even make a good Snake, come to think of it!
I'm telling you by RokurGepta	Aug 4th, 2007 12:28:52 AM
Escape from the Evil Dead starring Kurt Russel, and Bruce Campbell is a guaranteed WIN WIN WIN
Vern by SpencerTrilby	Aug 4th, 2007 01:04:12 AM
I almost forgot your unholy review of "Live free..." so thanks for the reminder. What's next? Wiseman remaking "Out for Justice" starring Matthew McConaughey? When it happens make sure to give Wiseman all the shit he deserved for his wannabe McClane flick. You pulled your punches last time buddy. Cause I can't believe you REALLY loved it.
I whether be the guy fucking Monica Belluci(sp?)! by captboulder	Aug 4th, 2007 02:06:22 AM
Now thats some earned respect!
I whether be the guy fucking Monica Belluci(sp?)! by captboulder	Aug 4th, 2007 02:06:23 AM
Now thats some earned respect!
Wesley as the Duke would be cool or even by captboulder	Aug 4th, 2007 02:09:06 AM
Ving Rhames!
Snipes is A#1 by redfist	Aug 4th, 2007 02:20:43 AM
As long as he doesn´t play it giddy like Demolition Man. He would be a bad ass Duke. I have read the script and they need someone that can pull off ultra violence.......like GEORGE MILLER!!! those underworld movies were 6 gays to fooking stupid and style over substance. and Kate beckensale...or whatever is not all that hot.
Vern you've gotta be fucking kidding by IndustryKiller!	Aug 4th, 2007 03:20:49 AM
Look man I love ya, every sentient being who frequents this site owes you huge for that Transformers review, but enough is enough with the Wiseman loving. The Underworld movies are atrocious. How one could make a werewolf vs. vampire movie that bad and uncool, when he even got to write the script, is totally beyond me. And in your Die Hard review you sound like you had a good time but is that grounds for giving the guy a free ticket until he gets the opportunity to ruin something else? WHich you and I both know he will inevitably do. If youa re that gaga over the action in the film is just because your faculties have been sliced away by years of god awful directors like Michael bay ruling the action landscape. The movie was a bastardization of Die Hard. Period. It might be watchable if you can disassociate the film from the franchise, but even then only on a purely "lesser of many evils" level. We really should not be giving this guy such undue credit, especially a smart fella like yourself.
Crap Story, a film might be an improvement. by Kizeesh	Aug 4th, 2007 03:28:33 AM
Gears had so little plot that at times it was completely unclear why you were even fighting through some particular place. it was an action game made of set-pieces that were cobbled into an Ad Hoc single player campaign. Its a great fun blast, but anyone saying that Wiseman will ruin the story is a fucking tool.
Len Wiseman is the new Stephen Summers by 300spartansinhell	Aug 4th, 2007 04:22:31 AM
For every Zach Snyder there are 3 new len wisemans. Very mediocre directors who talk more than they direct. I checked out the Van Helsing dvd behind the scenes stuff and now I know why that movie sucked so much. Summers said something like, "oh I love the universal monsters and I wanted to take them to the next level with the new technology." He should have added, "oh and that´s why there was no story, cause I loved playing with the werewolfe cgi so much that I forgot to write a decent script" Same could be said about Underworld movies.
No Neo Zed by 300spartansinhell	Aug 4th, 2007 04:37:17 AM
Gears of war has no story at all. I can understand they want to make a film out of Halo, but gears´ story was non existent, and so many fans there are not. They need to make another two games before they do a film.
Len Wiseman is the DEVIL INCARNATE by stamper	Aug 4th, 2007 04:38:58 AM
This announcement right away took off my interest in this remake. In fact, as already said, this remake sucks because it's a remake. Let's do Plissken Begins, aka ESCAPE FROM LENINGRAD not some techno computer version of the original analog retro-futuristic synth movie. Not some lesser remake of what remains one of the best original Carpenter movies ever.
DH 4 was a blast by barnaby jones	Aug 4th, 2007 05:07:25 AM
and the dvd will be even better. Wiseman's ok, the Underworld movies were alright. He could go on to become a decent film maker.
Live free or die Hard.... by emeraldboy	Aug 4th, 2007 05:49:51 AM
was ruined because of the villain. olyphant was wrong for this movie. He looks uncannily Billy bob thornton. Maggie Q's demise was sensational. She's at the bottom of a vent with a SUV stuck up her ass. briliant. The villain needed to be a mystery figure. Not a pissed of ex-govt official.
WISEMAN doesn't have the BALLS or style for G.O.W!!! by silentbobafett2	Aug 4th, 2007 06:02:37 AM
SO FUCK YOU WISEMAN!
You realise he'll probably cast his ole' buddy... by gerbalBOY	Aug 4th, 2007 07:12:39 AM
BECKINSALE AS PLISKEN.
Oh Dear by EthanRunt	Aug 4th, 2007 08:07:52 AM
Another terrible director inexplicably given way too much work, hell, Die Hard 4.0's action wasn't even that good, so the whole film, short of the Smith scenes, were shit. Maybe offer it to someone with this little thing called talent next time? Michael Mann could get it done.
Live Free or Die Hard was boring???? by BigTuna	Aug 4th, 2007 08:24:32 AM
It was non-stop, balls to the wall action. I loved it. Best film of the summer. Wiseman did a great job.
I just hope Shia LaPoof.... by Dr Gregory House	Aug 4th, 2007 08:32:49 AM
...isn't Snake's son or some shit.
Memories-Of-Murder by Jack Colby	Aug 4th, 2007 08:44:25 AM
That Escape From USA idea is great. I just wonder if Carpenter could deliver on a premise like that nowadays, even if it was dropped into his lap. An aging Snake could be even more of a badass than he ever was, and I'd love to see something along those lines.
snake plisken in leather by LarryTheCableGuy	Aug 4th, 2007 08:46:10 AM
ok its been done. snake plisken shooting guns in slow mo as the camera pans around him. crap. what an original take he's gonna bring to the franchise. i'd rather, if they must get another actor to take the part, make it a tv series about snake doing small missions for people who need help in the underground usa. before or after the movies. there was a short lived comic book series, i think i remember it being like that. or how about that anime they planned once. the highlander anime kinda reminded me of that. the character was defiinately the same nihalistic type.
ESCAPE FROM NY deserves a better director. by mr_sinister7381	Aug 4th, 2007 08:53:03 AM
period.
ack by RockLobster800	Aug 4th, 2007 08:58:16 AM
Im not ging to bother watching either of them anyway-why watch a remake of Escape when I have it done perfectly well on DVD already? In other news, Empire wrote a glowing analysis of Brett Ratners career, saying he was a major of Hollywood player of notable talent even though throughout it they have to admit all he makes are crap action sequels with zero artisitic integrety. I wonder if he paid them to do it?
Gears of War is fucking awesome by calnorso	Aug 4th, 2007 09:00:24 AM
The visuals in that game are mind blowing, those of you who just think that if they blow a bunch of shit up and that'd be okay are clearly mistaking. The setting is very cinematic, trouble is with everyone out here is you're too obsessed with comic-books and graphic novel adaptations. Does anyone even buy that shit, really, who actually buys comics books these days. I don't think anyone has bought a comic book since 1976 . So far every video game adaptation has sucked, I'll give you that but I'm telling you, if Hollywood would give the producers the money they need to make a decent video game adaptation then you guys would see how much better they are than fucking comic-books
Hey Vern isn't Butler already cast as Snake? by Orbots Commander	Aug 4th, 2007 09:12:47 AM
You know, the dude who played Leonidas in 300. I'm sure I've read that it's confirmed he'll play Plisken.
I'm gonna make ZERO friends with this... by Fawst	Aug 4th, 2007 09:51:42 AM
But Underworld, a movie that I thought was a clinic on style over substance, was... well, about a hundred times better than Escape From L.A. If we were talking about a Big Trouble In Little China remake, I would be up in arms, but - we're not. And I don't understand all the hate for Underworld 2. THAT was a good action movie. I dare anyone to watch that movie and play through Gears of War and tell me he's not perfect for it. If you want to bitch and cry about the EFNY debacle, go for it, but remember that that's a remake that shouldn't exist and isn't "his fault." Half the time directors get ripped apart for their films, it's unjust. Take a step back, look at the STORY you're watching. If the story sucks, you're not gonna get much excitement, are you? If the director didn't write it... can he really be to blame? I can appreciate Underworld for its visual style, but beyond that, it was a horribly written story with too many "insert action sequence with characters we don't care about here" moments. U2 on the other hand? Very well done. Not many fringe characters that we didn't give a shit about. Case in point, what happens not long into the movie? The euro-douche from the first one gets killed. It was like they tapped and said "we get it, secondary characters be damned this time, it's about the mains." I'm telling you, he's gonna knock GoW out of the park. EFNY is another story, but you know what? Fuck EFNY. Another useless remake. Try remaking something that SHOULD be remade. And this guy is no Uwe or W.S., sorry. He actually has a good eye for action.
Sounds like they're really going to do it by Franklin T Marmoset	Aug 4th, 2007 10:13:10 AM
I'm not usually against remakes, and I'm not totally against this one, but it does mean a third Carpenter/Russell Snake Plissken adventure is almost certainly never going to happen. That is a real shame, I think. I rewatched NY and LA as a special 'I have no life' double bill the other week, and I still enjoyed them both. LA is very underrated and easily the funniest of the two, but NY is obviously the best. Once I got to the end of LA, it hit me how much I'd love to see Russell play that role one more time. That looks more and more like a pipe dream, though. Oh, well. Maybe this remake will be good. I mean, it's from the guy who gave us Underworld Evolution and a cartoon version of Die Hard, right? What could possibly go wrong?
Everybody goes on endlessly about how they hate by emeraldboy	Aug 4th, 2007 11:41:56 AM
Len wisemen, Bay and boll. I heard a piece news yesterday that if true will be one of the worst things to happen to the film world in Decades. SIMON COWELL is going into the movie business. This is the same man who has destroyed pop music by flushing the charts with crap. By flooding the tv with crap too and now he is about to enter the film world. boll and bay bashers have had their day. Anyone bashes either men from on. should be reminded of this: SIMON COWELL IS ENTERING THE MOVIE BUSINESS.
KATE B. HAS NO ASS. by Cult Exiter	Aug 4th, 2007 01:31:28 PM
IN FACT, A FEW HOLLYWOOD STARLETS HAVE... SURE YOU CAN BOOST ANYTHING WITH PHOTOSHOP, OR USE FISHEYE LENS, OR PLAY WITH FOCUS AND PERSPECTIVE, OR HAVE A BODY DOUBLE.
they have cloned Bol.... by mitemike	Aug 4th, 2007 02:19:34 PM
well, someone has to fill Bols shoes here in the U.S. congrats Mr wiseman, you can pick up your award at the door.
well hello PG-13 boring dull lacklustre effects-driven by flipster	Aug 4th, 2007 02:31:43 PM
drivel. I did play Gears of War all the way through and it was enjoyable. but hardly something Mr. Disney Die Hard should be touching if anyone at all. Don;t make the film - make a great game world like the GTA series or make movies, stop trying to do both, it just comes off as lame, imo.
Simon COwell enters the movie business by emeraldboy	Aug 4th, 2007 02:35:44 PM
as if he hasnt screwed up all other forms of entertainment. SYCO films hires PWS anderson. think im being funny. wait and see. While on a trip to Germany Cowell bumps into Dr boll and they talk......Cowell Hires Boll..BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Curious by Kree42	Aug 4th, 2007 02:56:14 PM
Are movies art? I think acting is a craft as you are taking someone's words and speaking them and emoting under direction. Just a thought and curious about what others think ,in a constructive way, not just typical board answers.
Merrick...You are wrong...Die Hard 4 was great! by vettebro	Aug 4th, 2007 04:36:42 PM
Now "Sunshine", that sucked ass badly...
Kree42 by TheNorthlander	Aug 4th, 2007 04:37:16 PM
Art and Craft go hand in hand. Making a painting is as much art as it is a craft, so is carving a table and writing a book.
Video Game adapatations always turn out well by robzass	Aug 4th, 2007 05:29:00 PM
I mean such cinematic classics as Super Mario Bros., Bloodrayne, Resident Evil trilogy, Alone in the Dark, Doom, and others all were spawned from games.
So, who's this Real MiraJeff guy? by Gilkuliehe	Aug 4th, 2007 05:52:09 PM
And why does he have a black box? He seems to be showing up every now and then but to me he sounds like a regular talkbacker... Are yoy Harry's cousin or something? Are you Bruce Willis? What the fuck, man.
videogame adaptations... by TheNorthlander	Aug 4th, 2007 06:21:01 PM
...have all pretty much sucked so far, but remember that in a few years the same thing that happened to the comicbook-to-film adaptations might happen to the videogame-to-film when a generation of film makers that grew up with these games rise to power in hollywood.
Have you noticed by emp	Aug 4th, 2007 06:29:20 PM
that most good directors begin their career with making one or more good movies movies and then maybe at some point makes one or more bad ones? Len Wiseman began with making shit, continued to make (gunshot) shit, and will probably always make shit. So stop it with the "He could go on to become a decent film maker"... shit.
emp by TheNorthlander	Aug 4th, 2007 07:08:34 PM
agreed. he's worse than Renny Harlin. Renny has always made shit, but somehow some way he managed to actually make Long Kiss Goodnight. That's his one redeeming movie that sets him above Len Wiseman/Paul WS Anderson/Tim Story standard. None of these guys understand storytelling.
Meaning by Kree42	Aug 4th, 2007 08:44:16 PM
Northlander, as they by definition mean the same thing I see what you mean ,but I'm talking about acting I guess. Is it art? On topic I kinda like a bit of mindless entertainment. As with all all things if you dont like his movies pay him no mind and find something you do like.
What's with all the Len Wiseman bashing? by glodene	Aug 4th, 2007 08:45:31 PM
The Underworld movies were fun. Not high art, but fun. He knows how to set-up a good action sequence with some WOW! I think he'd be perfect to direct EFNY...At least with him directing, it'll guarantee that it'll be way more exciting than the original. I said it once and i'll say it again, the problem with John Carpenter is that he has a problem interpreting his own material. He comes up with great ideas and plots, but he seems to have a problem executing them...Now every once in a while he does knock one out of the ballpark, suchas The Thing; In The Mouth of Madness; The made for TV Elvis Biopic w/Kurt Russell, but the rest of his efforts tends to be cold and unemotional.
If Kurt Russell were to reprise (instead of Butler), by kabong	Aug 4th, 2007 10:44:37 PM
then that would mean Len Wiseman would have to rerun his Die Hardly trope of the hero's son going for the teen demographic. I was going to riff on Ving's mastiffs, but shuttlepod_10 had to deprive me of the opportunity.
Industry Killer by Vern	Aug 4th, 2007 11:15:10 PM
Hey bud, I actually agree with your talkback other than the part about LIVE FREE being a bastardization of DIE HARD. I think you're reading too much into what I wrote. I still would not consider myself a Len Wiseman fan. The first UNDERWORLD was okay I guess but the second one drove me fuckin nuts with all its people standing around talking about what other people did hundreds of years ago. That was just bad storytelling. But yes, I gained some respect for him for LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD because, while it is obviously flawed what with the Kevin Smith cameo and the PG-13 and what not, I did enjoy it. For that reason the idea of him directing ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK is almost a relief because I was expecting them to hire somebody much more terrible. At least this guy I know has some skills at action scenes and some respect for '80s tough guy icons. But I'm just saying he's not the worst choice, I'm not saying he's ideal. They shouldn't do this movie unless they could get a real visionary who would add new dimension to the story. (Paul Verhoeven is probaly busy pitching TRANSFORMERS 2 though.) Honestly, I think the story of ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK is good material for a remake, and it's not one of Carpenter's more political movies, so there's room to add more substance to it instead of take it away. But the problem is Snake Plissken and the fact that he IS Kurt Russell. When they remade YOJIMBO as FISTFUL OF DOLLARS they somehow found a badass who was almost as good as the original. But Gerald Butler is no Clint Eastwood, I'm not sure it could work. And more importantly I was still holding out hope for a return of the real Snake Plissken until I heard they were making this. Jesus man, imagine old Snake Plissken! Get Stallone to direct and call it SNAKE PLISSKEN. (just kidding.) Maybe the only chance we have of the real Snake returning is if the remake fails and everybody forgets it right away and they wait another ten years. Or I guess two judging by modern attention spans. I don't think we're on opposite sides here bud, I'm just not as hardline as you are. I am more of an industry ball-puncher, not as much of an industry killer. Maybe a stabber but the wounds are not fatal.
Duke Of New York by ChiTownsBest	Aug 5th, 2007 12:40:53 AM
Will be played by Taye Diggs if Wiseman directs. He is the only black actors close enough to the Euro trash villains he usually employs in his movies. Maybe he could get Will Smith as Snake Plisken so we can finally here Snake tell the Duke" Oh Hell Naaawwww!!!" right before he kicks the dukes ass.
Gerard Butler by ChiTownsBest	Aug 5th, 2007 12:47:21 AM
I thought he would make a decent Snake but Wiseman will make him look like a pansy. Where the hell are all the hardcore action directors? Enough of that phony quick cut BS already. There has to be someone out there who can direct a balls to the wall action movie. The type of action movie that feels like it has substance to it no matter how ridiculous the premise. Wiseman is not that director.
They should have cast Damon as Plissken by stamper	Aug 5th, 2007 02:46:14 AM
They should have cast Damon as Plissken If the remakers of EFNY had any brain, they would cast Matt Damon as Plissken, and get Greengrass to direct. Now, that's a remake I would pay to see !
Because Butler = Bad acting by stamper	Aug 5th, 2007 02:57:29 AM
If Wiseman get wiser, he would make sure Butler is dropped right away. Delete those Desert Storm references from the script. Make it Escape from Leningrad, an alternate reality. Get Wing Rhames as the Duke of New York, or Wesley Snipes. Quit the CGI massacre of the imnates, who cares, we wanna see suspense and subversion. Kate Beckinsale as Maggie is sure to be annouced next thought. With Plissken screaming "THIS IS THE USA !".
Kree42 by TheNorthlander	Aug 5th, 2007 05:41:26 AM
what's the point of critizising things I like?
die hard 4 only one problem???? by compn	Aug 5th, 2007 09:49:52 AM
fuck people who say die hard 4 only had one problem. hacker bad guy was horrible! the entire premise of a hacker badguy is terrible. pg-13 is another problem. also did anyone remember the music? die hard 3 had some bad ass 'jonnie comes marching home' score. ALSO THERE WERE NO FUCKING BOMBS! die hard 1 has the whole roof wired to blow, plus improvised bombs by mcclain. die hard 2 has a church bomb and grenades. die hard 3 is full of bombs. there were NONE in dh4. **************** look at UNDER SEIGE, which is basically a group of guys that take over a battleship and 'hack' the nukes out of it (social engineering with gary busey). damn even dh2 had a hacker badguy (they hacked the airport computers) but they didnt waste time talking about computer shit, they just type-type-type and back to gunfire and grenades.---------------just to keep on thread, no john carpenter movie ever needs to be remaked. gears of war i dunno but len wiseman sucks and underworld is some recycled garbage.------ bring on ESCAPE FROM EARTH with KURT RUSSEL. i hope he escapes to mars and finds it overrun with mars ghosts.....
Memories, did your mommy wail on you with a crowbar... by SoylentMean	Aug 5th, 2007 09:55:36 AM
as a child? I can tell you were at least traumatized by a mother figure in your early life (your handle here is, after all, an acronym for MOM). The Long Kiss Goodnight was one of the few standout examples of fun, action film making from the 90's that still holds up. Of course I'm probably going right over your (probably squarish) head. I mean you do have a thing for redundancy what with your use of "simplistic moronic" and "bullshit shit" in a single sentence. I don't know who you were even responding to, but since you're clearly mentally handicapped I thought I'd hit you behind the knees and knock you down a peg. I also love how you seem to have learned your spelling from the Hooked On Phonics School of Learning. Realizing that, I can understand why you'd spell comprehension as "compreention". Unless you were going for some kind of rudimentary Cockney accent. Well, you got the cock part right, and I hope all of your orifices are filled with it. Oozing pustule covered penises in all your idiot holes. Two in the mouth so you'll shut the fuck up.
the fog remake by compn	Aug 5th, 2007 10:13:42 AM
did anyone see it? this is what needs to be remembered when they talk about HALLOWEEN and ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK remakes. btw where is my THE THING tv mini-series? or my snake plissken anime (the company went tits up?). carpenter cant get a break and masters of horror was a big piece of shit.
compn, you actually watched The Fog "remake"? by SoylentMean	Aug 5th, 2007 11:40:37 AM
I kinda wanted to rent that, but then I didn't. Just how unwatchable is it? I thought the original film was pretty damn creepy.
Long kiss gnight = actress + director sounds familiar ? by stamper	Aug 5th, 2007 12:51:45 PM
One actress shags a movie director hoping her career will boost up... now, where did I head that one recently Mr Wiseman ?
Northlander by Kree42	Aug 5th, 2007 01:44:48 PM
Sorry did not know I was just talking as it where
Hey Stamper, Geena Davis had an Oscar... by SoylentMean	Aug 5th, 2007 02:30:56 PM
way before she met up with Renny Harlin. I doubt she married him so her career would "boost up", whatever that means.
Worthy or entering the Die Hard......franchise??? WTF? by Spandau Belly	Aug 5th, 2007 02:41:07 PM
You guys don't honestly think there's a standard for Die Hard sequels, do you? None of the sequels have been entertaining even on the lowered level of sequel expectations. I'm not sure which one is worse, DH2 for being steadily mediocre and consistantly unoriginal or DH3 for being wildly uneven alternating between great set-ups and terrible pay-offs and WINNER OF THE WORST ENDING TO AN ACTION FILM EVER AWARD (tm). I haven't seen DH4 but it couldn't be worse than those other two sequels.
soylent mean by compn	Aug 5th, 2007 03:03:25 PM
i never saw the remake, i heard it was terrible. i cant give my money to people who would remake movies poorly.
DH3 was awesome compared to Live Free by SpencerTrilby	Aug 5th, 2007 03:04:27 PM
In fact, DH2 was also brilliant compared to it. But I don't knw why I'm comparing these, you can't put a movie up against one from another series. Live Free or MI-4 was a complete piece of shit which reminded me more of Lethal Weapon 3 than Die Hard as we know it.
long kiss goodnight by compn	Aug 5th, 2007 03:06:00 PM
was pretty good. i like geena davis, go see QUICK CHANGE , need more randy quaid movies too.
wait by compn	Aug 5th, 2007 03:07:04 PM
imdb says i voted it 4/10 , maybe i made a mistake on that earlier comment.
How about a Escape from Transformers. by Violator90	Aug 5th, 2007 04:11:06 PM
Have Bay work on this and we can have an extremely fucked up movie. Hell, Bay killed one movie why not another? Micheal Bay's ESCAPE FROM TRANSFORMERS. I can hear Snake utter some stupid shit like, "Wasuuuuup Prime!" And Prime replys "My bad." as he squashes Snake by accident.
Where's Geena now ? by stamper	Aug 5th, 2007 04:43:55 PM
So she got that oscar for Scott's chicks flick, it doesn't mean she wasn't a plastic surgery casualty, and shag crazy to boot. Plus Long kiss and that pirate flick sucked. Really big.
Aww, Stamper doesn't like Geena Davis by SoylentMean	Aug 5th, 2007 05:00:37 PM
Care factor eroding, eroding. Stamper is a urinal cake! Stamper is a urinal cake! Immature, ain't I?
Anyone who does'nt like The L K GN is a FAG! by glodene	Aug 5th, 2007 06:27:15 PM
Now hows that for justifiable immaturity?
Noy sure if dislike of a movie is sound reasoning to... by SoylentMean	Aug 5th, 2007 06:42:57 PM
question someone's sexual orientation, but pissing on an undeniably awesome film does raise some eyebrows. I'm not too sure if The Long Kiss Goodnight counts as a cult flick or what, but in my book it's a classic that I will show my kids-when they're old enough.
Memories-Of-Murder, please spare us your feigned by glodene	Aug 6th, 2007 02:05:08 PM
pseaudo-intellectual outrage, it's annoying. You're nothing more than a lonely bitter masturbator who's obviously going through a major homosexual panic, thus visiting AICN looking for a little companionship, but due to your social ineptness, you mask your affections with needless hostilities...But lucky for you, i'm sypathetic to your malady...So after a little research, i discovered a site that you can visit, where you can frollic your like-minded ilk: PICKLESMOKERS.COM. Btw, there's no need to thank me, i'm here to help.
Memories-Of-Murder, please spare us your feigned by glodene	Aug 6th, 2007 02:10:46 PM
pseaudo-intellectual outrage, it's annoying. You're nothing more than a lonely bitter masturbator who's obviously going through a major homosexual panic, thus visiting AICN looking for a little companionship, but due to your social ineptness, you mask your affections with needless hostilities...But lucky for you, i'm sypathetic to your malady...So after a little research, i discovered a site that you can visit, where you can frollic among your like-minded ilk: PICKLESMOKERS.COM. Btw, there's no need to thank me, i'm here to help.

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