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AVATAR hires some actors and a cinematographer!!!

Lesbo or not by Wile_E_Mac	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:32:48 AM
Michelle "Angry Girl" Rodriguez still gives me a stiffy just thinking about her.
Will Rodriguez be wearing her alcohol anklet? by Wile_E_Mac	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:34:19 AM
Can they work that into the script?
cool by pipergates	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:36:33 AM
but too far away
It's like YAY!!! Stephen Lang, by CherryValance	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:47:52 AM
NOOOOOO!!! Michelle Rodriguez. I guess someone has to hire her eventually. But I'm still having Ana-Lucia nightmares.
Crap. Only 31 days of shooting?! by NewClassic	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:53:42 AM
Name me ONE good big budget movie that was shot in 31 days. I sure can't. This sounds fishy...like Phantom Menace. Oh well, Cameron's the man--I'm sure he'll pull it off.
WEAVER says she's been shooting already by THE KNIGHT	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:12:58 AM
In an article over at moviehole, weaver says she can't wait to get back to shooting... what's the deal here?
James Cameron is the real cinematographer of his movies by CuervoJones	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:14:29 AM
The guy knows everything about filmaking.
What about Michael Biehn? Looks like by Paulseta	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:25:36 AM
he's been left off this time. I think the crusty old colonel was the one we were hoping that he would get... Damn.
Avatar? by Grando	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:48:11 AM
That wacky cartoon with bald ninjas?
31 days by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:53:06 AM
But hasn't it been shooting already? Weaver says she is "going back" to shoot next week. Anyone have the heads up on how long they've shot already?
C'mon Jim, what about Biehn? by reni	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:55:20 AM
I'm presuming there wasn't a role for him? Would've been nice though.
Wellington? by LittleDudes	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:56:00 AM
Shit, that's where I live. That's probably what this was about: http://tinyurl.com/2bj7n8
Avatar: The Last Airbender? by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:10:59 AM
Is that what this movie is? Before you say "No", riddle me this, James Cameron's next film after Avatar is reportedly named Battle Angel, which is also the name of an Animated Movie from several years back.... So what's the story?
When Cameron made movies.... often. by snakecharmer	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:16:21 AM
I can't but help get excited when I hear new of Cameron prepping movies. I remember the days when he made movies every couple of years. His movies aren't always perfect but they sure are an experience. We, as audience, go to movies to see something exciting. His movies are that. lates.
Rokurgepta by sokitome	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:37:54 AM
This is not the last air bender. This is the original movie by James CAmeron. THEy are doing an Avatar: the last airbender movie but M Night is doing it. And YES BATTLE ANGEL is the same as the anime movie from a long time ago.
Man Cats! by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:06:05 AM
Can't wait!
I wish May 2009 would be tomorrow. by Motoko Kusanagi	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:08:13 AM
I can hardly wait seeing the next "real" Cameron flick after his sinking ship movie. Btw, is it shot in 3D? Weren't there rumors about that?
Motoko Kusanagi by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:11:48 AM
http://www.variety.com/article /VR1117969650.html?categoryid= 13&cs=1
So by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:12:51 AM
They're shooting in LA now, so presumably the 31 day shoot is motion capture at WETA?
will Rodriguez by conbarba	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:16:41 AM
be angry as always?
THIS IS COOL BECAUSE by The Real MiraJeff	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:31:52 AM
Michelle Rodriguez is a fuckin' bad-ass. Think about what Cameron has done with bad-ass chicks. Sigourney Weaver peaked as a bad-ass during that final showdown in Aliens (although I wouldn't want to run into her in a dark alley when she had her head shaved for part 3). Then think about how Sarah Connor, as played by Linda Hamilton, particularly in T2, is basically the last woman on Earth you'd ever want to fuck with. I think Linda Hamilton in T2 would give The Bride a run for her money. She's like a female Jack Bauer. Cameron is going to milk Rodriguez for every ounce of bad-ass she has left in her after Girlfight, Fast and Furious and Lost. This will be great for her career and great for Avatar. Way to go, Jimmy Boy!
VASQUEZ!!!!!! by messi	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:33:30 AM
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. She always makes me laugh, to this day I bring it up "just gimme sumfin ta shooot".
Don't forget about The Abyss by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:40:06 AM
that movie was so effing amazing.
Will Michael Beihn by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:42:09 AM
get bitten on the arm in Avatar?
CCH = Carol Christine Hilaria by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:48:32 AM
from imdb.com
When Cameron made movies.... often. by readingwriter	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:51:17 AM
When was that? (T2 and Aliens were separated by less than 2 years, but other than that, I don't recall him making movies often. Well, maybe for HIM often...) The thing about this "badass" thing is that he's done that already. The great directors don't just keep plugging the exact same type of character into their movies, forcing them in, really, whether the piece demands it or not. And really, is the badass chick so rare these days that seeing another one is going to have us going 'Holy SHIT this Cameron guy is doing something new and original here!"? I fear Cameron is going to fall into the I'm Making An Important Movie trap since Titanic--he doesn't want to entertain, he wants to educate, and he's at his best when he's entertaining. Everything I've heard about this movie so far makes me interested, but the idea that a "badass chick" doesn't. In fact,The Real MiraJeff is actually way off on this--Cameron's "badass chicks" are nothing of the sort. (Huh? Hang on.) Sarah Connor in T1 is a normal person who by the end carries a gun and is vigilant--she's a real person pushed to the edge and is standing her ground. She'd chuckle at the "badass" one-liner crap. In Aliens, Ripley was the next step up, but still not "badass" in terms of the perfectly buff, sneering, one-liner put-down spouting Badass type--she's a mother figure (the feminists howl...) who is protecting her young. (Just because a woman is tough and capable doesn't make her badass.) Connor is, in fact, the weak link in T2 because Cameron's idea of making her Terminator-like in her battle against the rise of the Terminators makes her boring the more "badass" she gets. Yeah, it's cool to see her buff and firing pointlessly even after she sees her weapons are doing NOTHING against the T-1000, but it gets very tiring by the end, and hers is the least-interesting character of the four. Mastrantonio is not BA in Abyss. Jamie Lee Curtis is so unattractive in True Lies and she freaks out around weapons. And Winslet isn't BA. So, while I enjoy Cameron's writing women who aren't pushovers, I don't think he does BA all that well, seeing how the one truly BA woman in the bunch is the rather boring Connor of T2.
AVATAR = Pocahontas in Space by Carniphage	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:52:26 AM
I love James Cameron, but read the script and you'll be humming "Colors of the Wind" by page 50.
Oh, I DID forget Vasquez by readingwriter	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:52:29 AM
She was the ultimate refinement of the BA--why would Cameron wanna go back and do that again? He's already done it.
really readingwriter? by Joey Jojo	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:11:44 AM
T2 and Aliens were separated by less than 2 years? Seems like Aliens was 1986 and T2 was 1991, and there was a little movie called The Abyss in between. And I dont think he is forcing strong females into his scripts - he just happens to write action roles for females more often than most other directors, and its nice that someone does, because I dont want to see another Sandra Bullock in Speed or any of the Charlie's Angels. Dont forget, Weaver got an Oscar nomination for Aliens. How many other action heroines have gotten that?
Winslet was badass in Titanic by CuervoJones	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:28:04 AM
Spitting and using an axe. Come on, that was a fine movie. El Riesgo Siempre Vive.
CCH Pounder got set of fire in Face/Off by Col. Tigh-Fighter	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:42:46 AM
And was a cool doctor in ER. And thats all I have to say about that!
CCH Pounder by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:01:30 AM
was very kick ass in Demon Knight
Carniphage by just pillow talk	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:32:07 AM
I already hum Colors of the Wind all the time, so what would happen if I read the script? I pretty much agree with you Joey Jojo on Cameron not forcing females to be strong. It's the events that lead to them "taking a stand". I'm very much looking forward to an eventual trailer down the road. I can't wait to see what it'll look like.
Michelle Rodriguez by jeffrex007	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:32:28 AM
UGH cant stand her. At the risk of sounding unnecessarily morbid, I wish she was caught in a fiery car crash in Hawaii when she was DUI instead of getting arrested. This is not, as MiraJeff put it, "cool." She and Julliette Lewis could be in a movie, and they could call it "One Trick-Ponies," Lewis only plays crazy chicks, Rodriguez only plays tough broads with bad dialogue, and it doesnt help that she delivers the bad dialogue terribly. And she's not that great looking. I'll belive she's tough, but I also believe she's tough because she knows shes a fucking dunce and she's insecure about being stupid so she forms a tough girl persona. Sad really.
RokurGepta by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:09:46 AM
The Abyss is amazing.
"Hey, Rodriguez, ever been mistaken for a man?" by Ray Gamma	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:18:10 AM
"No, Have you?" As long as they say this at some point in the script, it'll be a great film.
UGH!!! MICHELLE RODRIGUEZ SUCKS ASS!!!! by phaedrus007	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:19:43 AM
She's a horrid actress. Terrible. Someone please explain to me that butt-ugly talentless nobody gets parts in stuff like this and Lost. Ugh. Worst actress ever. Did I mention... ugh.. she sucks!
What about SCHWARZENEGGER? by ABking	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:20:20 AM
Jim, are you waiting for Arnold Schwarzenegger to become available after Governorship for BATTLE ANGEL? Will Arnie have a cameo in AVATAR?
But what about the gaffer??? by mondoz2	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:20:43 AM
Has a Best Boy been attached to this yet? I have yet to hear any news on a Foley artist, either.
Mirajeff is nuts by phaedrus007	Aug 3rd, 2007 07:21:32 AM
This is cool? Have you ever seen Michelle Rodriguez try and act before? Weaver made a great tough chick because she's good actress! Rodriguez is a awful tough chick (she has not one good performance on her resume) cause she can't act. Ugh.
and poor Michael Biehn sheds a single tear by Lance Rock	Aug 3rd, 2007 08:08:38 AM
"What about me, James?!? What about me?!?!"
"Michelle Rodriguez / bad-ass character"?!? by Wilclas	Aug 3rd, 2007 08:09:00 AM
Really?! Well, fuck me sideways, that´s the same part she EVER plays man. And she SUCKS at it ("look! I´m a badass chick, I´m lowering my head and looking at you from below! Uuh, I´m such a dangerous girl". C´Mon!! She´s the worst.
When does Michelle Rodriguez get to play a woman? by Stuntcock Mike	Aug 3rd, 2007 08:19:49 AM
She gets on my fucking nerves. One note acting at it's worst.
This is gonna be great by Knobules	Aug 3rd, 2007 09:05:50 AM
Cant wait to see it when its released in 2017.
mauro fiore by master bitchfist	Aug 3rd, 2007 09:41:21 AM
is one of my favorite d.p.'s
A Jim Cameron film's not a Jim Cameron film by kwisatzhaderach	Aug 3rd, 2007 09:52:25 AM
unless it stars Michael Biehn
Michelle Rodriguez by Anna Valerious	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:30:04 AM
When the hell is she going to stop playing the tough girl? It's getting old.
Indiana Jones in 2008, Avatar in 2009... by TheNorthlander	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:55:14 AM
Will we have Mad Max in 2010? Conan? Ghostbusters? Fuck, we NEED a new Ghostbusters!
Can't stand Michelle Rodriguez by messi	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:10:03 PM
I usually don't get too bothered with anyone on screen like most AICN nerds but she really bugs me, just fucking annoying, and always playing the same fucking part in everything. Plus she's very unnatractive.
I'd rather see Battle Angel first by Danger Vole	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:50:41 PM
I read the synopsis of the plot, and it doesn't seem pertinent that it's called Avatar. The title fits the cartoon better-- since the cartoon is about the return of-- the Avatar. And yes, I'll admit I like the fuckin' Nick cartoon. I love James Cameron too but he waited too long. And he belongs to the 90's. And I don't have much love for Michelle. Is this Avatar based on anything?
still have no clue by liljuniorbrown	Aug 3rd, 2007 12:56:59 PM
to what a Battle Angel or an Avatar are.. I guess I missed the breaking news story two or three years ago when it was first brought up. I did the read the fake Batman Year One script review a few years back, anybody still "having a beer and cheeting" on anybody lately?
Hilarious or Scary by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 01:43:41 PM
The tremendous waste of money "Evan Almighty" which was released in theaters in June of year, is going to be airing in its entirety on AUGUST 10th, on USA. zombie fucking baby jesus christ, is that the fucking shortest from theater to television jump ever made!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michelle Rodriguez's "sick face" by zooch	Aug 3rd, 2007 02:46:26 PM
I wonder if Michelle Rodriguez is going to make that face she makes all the time when she's "acting" that looks like she about to vomit. God I hate her. You ruined Season 2 of LOST you bitch!
hope and believe this will look better'n Beowulf by pipergates	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:01:18 PM
which was supposed to be "animated Frazetta style" but looks pretty bland from the trailer...didn't see any of Frazetta's fabulous colors and shading there...but if anybody can do this motion-capture thing right its Cameron.and Weta sometimes.
Yes, THE ISLAND had great cinematography. by Motoko Kusanagi	Aug 3rd, 2007 03:49:59 PM
If you would understand a little more about it, then you'd look past the narration and those other thingies (like Bay-hate) which obviously keep bothering you. The photography was really nice.
oh gee fucking wilockers, look at the pretty picture by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:15:48 PM
so motherfucking what if the cinematography was good, the fucking story, which is the heart of the motherflipping movie sucked goat ballcheez, are you one of those lemmings that like transformers soley for the fact that the last 45 minutes had giant fucking robots blowing shit up? For all you motherflipping hacks that have no tasebuds when it comes to quality films, that actually liked transformers, I give you this link which explains perfectly the reasons why Transformers was a flaming pile of garbage http://www.vgcats.com/comics/? strip_id=241
Lang looks like Dave Foley's evil twin. by modlight	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:34:57 PM
and ummmm how do you have a Cinematographer on a Mo-Cap film?! or is this a mo-cap, and furthermore.... The Island looked amazing. that is all.
rodriguez by The Real MiraJeff	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:53:42 PM
I'm willing to bet that all you Michelle Rodriguez haters out there have never seen GIRLFIGHT, because if you had, you would NEVER, EVER say that she can't act. She can't act when she's stuck in shit movies like Swat, Bloodrayne, Blue Crush and Resident Evil. What Karyn Kusama did with her in Girlfight was amazing and I have no doubt that Cameron will get the best out of her abilities.
Danger Vole by pervy elf fancier	Aug 3rd, 2007 04:54:49 PM
The Avatars (from what I understand) are a sort of "shell" that the humans occupy to fight the aliens in the war for Pandora. Thus, the Avatars look just like the aliens (the Na'vi). I worked on this film for a few weeks over the summer, so I know it's been shooting for quite a while, but mostly the motion-capture, CG stuff...big gray room, gray sticks, gray rocks and Cameron with a camera... The big stuff's being shot in NZ. It took a few goes with people explaining it to me before I got the gist of the story...AVATAR ultimately makes sense as a name, but I think most people will mix it up with the cartoon...which I also love. Too bad he's not making that instead.
Didn't something say Cameron owns DOC SAVAGE? by ABking	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:13:55 PM
I don't think Jim owns the film rights to DOC SAVAGE but it would be cool as shit if he bought the rights sometime down the line for his Governor pal Arnold Schwarzenegger to star in after 2010 when Arnie is out of politics. If there is anyone that can make Arnie look like he can still kick ass as an action icon character, it's James Cameron! Oh Michelle Rodriguez will own you May 2009 because of Jim Cameron!
Agreed, pervy elf fancier... by Danger Vole	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:35:43 PM
Cameron would do a better Avatar (cartoon) than M. Night. Your description of his Avatar is very much Gundam/Evangelion/Macross/ever y mecha anime ever made. In response to the Real MiraJeff I would say, that Michelle Rodriguez can play an awkward tom-boyish thug well- which is what she played in Girl Fight and in everything she's been in since. She was good-- for a non-actor, in an indie no-budget film. She's not a Hollywood star in my opinion. She's also seems bat-shit crazy and dangerous in real life. She makes the "Private Pyle" face a lot.
M. Night by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 05:52:50 PM
how do you know M. Night is going to be doing the Avatar cartoon? where do you get your info?
No confusion by Cobbio	Aug 3rd, 2007 06:52:38 PM
Cameron's "Avatar" is pretty fucking far away from "...Gundam/Evangelion/Macross. " It's not remotely anime-inspired, thank God, it's pulled from an original Cameron screenplay I've read described as "Lawrence of Arabia on a futuristic planet." Anime is cool, but "Avatar: The Last Airbender" is child's play compared to Cameron's upcoming release. "The Last Airbender" is PG-rated kid's fare at best, whereas Cameron's "Avatar" will be a big, violent, dramatic orginal movie. As only Cameron can deliver. Let's not confuse the two.
Person in a giant robot suit is an Anime theme by Danger Vole	Aug 3rd, 2007 10:34:48 PM
He didn't invent this genre. And if he's doing Battle Angel he obviously watches Anime and reads Manga. That doesn't take anything away from his writing/directing. I'm sure it will be amazing. But Evangelion is also a masterpiece-- even Mecha anime can be very good. Hey RokurGepta- the info for M. Night directing the "other Avatar" is on imdb.
Danger Vole by RokurGepta	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:18:30 PM
Actually the imdb lists nothing about M. Night having anything to do with Avatar: The Last airbender.....
Danger Vole by pervy elf fancier	Aug 3rd, 2007 11:55:54 PM
I wouldn't really call it a "giant robot suit". Think of it as human consciousness inhabiting living beings...They can't fight the Na'vi as humans cause they're like, ten feet tall and would kick the humans asses. So this is their way of leveling the playing field. But the bodies they inhabit are living, breathing beings...at least that's what I understood them to be.
question by RokurGepta	Aug 4th, 2007 12:13:42 AM
are the giant mecha in Evangelion living creatures?
Pervy Elf and RokurGepta by Danger Vole	Aug 4th, 2007 02:27:34 AM
I think they're kind of alive- from what I recall. And not to take away from "Na'vi" but isn't the "alive" computer/interweb thingy from Lain called Navi? Which the Matrix also ripped off wholesale. And RG- sorry for the misdirection. He Is listed for it, but only as a project in development - so you can only see on IMDBPro. He's listed as Writer/Director/Producer - slated for 2009. Michael D. and Bryan K. are listed as well, for story.
T2 and Aliens were separated by less than 2 years? by readingwriter	Aug 4th, 2007 03:23:28 AM
I meant T1.
Weaver's Oscar by readingwriter	Aug 4th, 2007 03:26:13 AM
I think that's more about Weaver's acting than about being a "badass". As for Winslet, I don't think any strong character played by a woman is a badass, in this case, she's a strong woman.
Mirajeff by paulrichard	Aug 4th, 2007 09:36:43 AM
Yeah, she was good in Girlfight, but that's it. She had a chance to "act" on Lost, where she sucked big time.
Shit.... by Vamp-AICNchat	Aug 4th, 2007 01:02:52 PM
AVATAR is gonna have a tomboy match chewing alien ie: Michelle Rodriguez. Seriously though, I trust Cameron 110%. Everytime he makes a film he changes cinema.
im in by imageburn13	Aug 4th, 2007 01:23:41 PM
love with michelle rodriguez. I thought she was great on Lost. She can do no wrong in my book.
Battle Angel Alita...? by Boober	Aug 4th, 2007 02:20:36 PM
When?
2009 -- but I doubt it by Danger Vole	Aug 4th, 2007 02:38:34 PM
Listed as being in pre-pro on IMBDPro. Best DPs: Conrad Hall, Bob Richardson, Janusz Kaminski, Harris Savides, Gordon Willis, Gregg Toland, Emmanuel Lubezki...
Mirajeff by phaedrus007	Aug 4th, 2007 04:25:47 PM
To call the people who thinks MR stinks as an actress "Michelle Rodriguez haters" totally begs the question. Personally, I prefer to think of myself as a "bad actress hater". And as you yourself point out, even after being in a dozen films and the greatest tv show ever (LOST) MR has but one, and only one performance that doesn't suck. Get it? Girlfight is EXCEPTIONAL... it's the EXCEPTION. But if one looks over her entire body of work, there is no possible conclusion other than she's an awful actress who had one good turn.
But MiraJeff... by Anna Valerious	Aug 5th, 2007 08:24:38 PM
The problem with her is that she keeps playing the same role over and over. She never tries to do anything different. Isn't acting supposed to be about becoming a different person?

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