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by lost.rules
Aug 1st, 2007
02:38:07 AM

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Aug 1st, 2007
02:38:24 AM

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Aug 1st, 2007
02:38:37 AM


by lost.rules

Aug 1st, 2007
02:39:50 AM
The Gold, The Silver, and The Bronze!
Of being gay. Congrats.
by Bilblow
Aug 1st, 2007
02:54:36 AM
Of being gay. Congrats.
Coraline Footage Here
by LittleDudes
Aug 1st, 2007
03:00:50 AM
http://tinyurl.com/26x39z looks pretty rad, completely different from how I imagined it (real) but has the same mood. Gaiman is definitely the IT guy right now.
HEROES SEASON 2 TRAILER
by LittleDudes
Aug 1st, 2007
05:02:39 AM
OH YEAH http://tinyurl.com/2e5c7u
Loved the book
by Jakes Nel
Aug 1st, 2007
05:53:46 AM
Great choice in getting Selick to do it. Gaiman has a lot going on in Hollywood these days; hope it works out for him. Sure hasn't done Alan Moore any good.
What kind of moron
by ErnieAnderson
Aug 1st, 2007
09:07:28 AM
writes LOL in a review?

Textspeak is for retards.

This was animated in my Town
by DOGSOUP
Aug 1st, 2007
09:18:41 AM
Portland Lurves the Neil! Just ask Powells.
Quint, you know the plural of "spy" is "spies," right?
by SpyGuy
Aug 1st, 2007
09:45:31 AM
Don't be afraid to use that there edjuhmuhcation.
Now, if only they'd do Sandman the anime
by SpookyOtaku
Aug 1st, 2007
09:57:33 AM
Gaiman's star is definitely on the rise in Hollywood...his cult status as a novelist and comics creator will grow as well...can't wait for this, Stardust, Beowulf and the directed by him Death: the High Cost of Living...but what really needs to be done is an animated series of the Sandman done in different styles for different storylines...get Amano, Satoshi Kon, Hideo Anno, Miyazaki, Oshii and a few others together to do a series of anime, how fü©☆ing fantastic would that be?
Hopefully Better Than MIRRORMASK and NEVERWHERE
by LaserPants
Aug 1st, 2007
11:00:43 AM
Both of which were excellent reads, but TERRIBLE views. MIRRORMASK was excrutiating, and NEVERWHERE was embarrasing. Still, I reckon somebody, somewhere, will get one of Gaiman's books right.
Spooky why limit it so much?
by half vader
Aug 1st, 2007
11:06:39 AM
What about different storylines done in completely different styles, if it was animation (and what about puppetry for that matter?). Yes I see why from your name but geez, why so myopic? Animé, Stop-motion, CG, 2d American style, pixelation, shadow puppets, bunraku, whatever. Now that would be fantastic.

Or even animation but done in the styles of some of the distinctive artists that worked on the COMIC ITSELF (and yes G-novels too, like Amano)?!

How can they retouch 3D?
by half vader
Aug 1st, 2007
11:18:04 AM
I mean, isn't that the whole problem, that you can't do frame retouches in photoshop or whatever 2d paint/rig removal software because the 2 images won't line up properly when projected (they had lots of problems with the Terminator 3d film because of that, although it was a long time ago).

All I can think is that they're doing it like the Nightmare (yes irony I know due to Selick) 3D where they have the original stuff shot flat, fix it up, then model simple 3d versions of everything and project it back onto itself like a digital matte painting/anamorphosis. It worked great with Nightmare (fuckloads better than Supes returns halfarsed Imax viewmaster retrofit) anyway. Lotta work though.

Any übergeeks out there that can enlghten me? I knew I shoulda gone this year instead of last year!

Mirrormask / Stardust
by MacTard420
Aug 1st, 2007
11:57:59 AM
Is not that bad. It is a kids movie on an extremely small budget. I found it charming, although I've never read the book so I can't compare. I just finished reading Stardust and am really looking forward to the movie now.
half vader
by SpookyOtaku
Aug 1st, 2007
12:50:55 PM
I suggested animation and later got specific to anime and certain creators, why? Because this is how the comic was done...it was drawn by different comics artists in different comics styles...anime seemed an obvious means of replicating the series in another medium...and Gaiman has worked in that medium before and has ties to at least two of the creators listed (Miyazaki and Amano), not trying to be narrow minded, just thinking outloud about something tha i would love to see. For the record, puppets, CGI etc. would be great, but they would not be very indicative of the series that inspired them...the Sandman was drawn...not photographed (yeah, yeah Mckean did some great stuff with photography on the covers)not rendered not modeled so you can see why I did not suggest these routes...all would be fine just not what I would prefer.
Retouching 3D
by Cy Sperling
Aug 1st, 2007
01:08:34 PM
Retouching 3D is only slightly more complex than retouching 2D. 3D projection is simply alternating 2D images for each eye. When painting out a rig, you simply paint it ouch in each eye. A separate pass of each scene is shot without characters in them. All that needs to be done is line the backgrounds up and erase the rig. Repeat the process for each eye. Paint is more tricky, since you need to add duplicate info to both eyes- but there is software that allows paint effects to be applied identically but with an equal offset to each eye.
More Gaiman
by Captain Tightpants
Aug 1st, 2007
01:19:50 PM
If Neil is indeed becoming the new IT guy, can we PLEASE get American Gods or Good Omens onto the screen!? Maybe even a Sandman HBO Animated Series ala Spawn? A guy can dream...
TMBG
by Sith Witch
Aug 1st, 2007
05:00:44 PM
Did anyone catch any of the They Might Be Giants music composed for this score? And if so, how was it?
Cool thanks Spooky
by half vader
Aug 2nd, 2007
02:24:16 AM
I take your point and that's cool - I guess though if you're talking about the look of the comics (and I confess I think McKean's influence is much much stronger than you do and surely Amano counts even less if we're being quantitative), then maybe my suggestion of animation in the styles of the comic artists is valid considering the overwhelming majority were westerners with western styles. This IS Morpheus we're talking about after all, western/eastern counterparts notwithstanding.

But yeah as for thinking aloud great idea (didn't actually mean to come off harsh before) and yeah the idea of an anthology thing (narrated/bookended by the crow?) is entirely appropriate.

As for McKean, yeah the first few covers were mostly illustrated but 'great stuff with photography' might be doing him a disservice. There were puppets, drawings, sculpture, collage, montage, paint, found objects, bones, photography and all massaged digitally in the end. He even used old photocopies for cryin' out loud! I think because mcKean's stuff is so seamless and natural people don't realise exactly WHAT he's done. WHich is probably the way it should be as the final image is what counts. I guess I prefer this sort of stuff the way you prefer the animé, which is all cool and groovy.

I was SO dissapointed with Mirrormask though. I was hoping for the second coming but... The most surprising thing to me though was that it was mostly Gaiman who stuffed up! O.K. McKean was on his first feature, under heavy constraints blah blah blah and did make some big mistakes in terms of contrast and mood (and even music), but it's not like Gaiman doesn't know about pacing and structure for Pete's sake (Pete being the audience in this case). Ah well. Give 'em another shot though. Not bad for 4 million.

I almost cried recently when I lost the first 16 issues of Sandman. My stupid fucking builder put particle board under the flooring and when the shower next door started leaking the water was soaked up, travelled along to my room, through the cupboard floor, and then the packing boxes and comics just sucked them up like a fucking sponge. All first printings of course. Not a huge comic collector but geez. The first I noticed was I guess weeks later when a stain appeared in the carpet leading me to open the doors. I couldn't even open them for ages as I just knew it'd be the Sandman and Hellblazer stuff. Couldn't even tell what was box and what was comic book in the end. At least my Signed Gaiman/McKean "Hold me" Hellblazer survived. Sorry. Had to share that.

Thanks Cy
by half vader
Aug 2nd, 2007
03:03:02 AM
- for the info. I can see how the clean plate bg would work for wire removal but what about moving shots and areas with alternating distances (or a round room for example) and movement in the frame through the z-axis? Thanks God there's no motion blur to worry about! I assumed there must be something now for paint but geez it sounds like rocket scientist stuff to work out (to my feeble brain)!

I'd also have been interested to ask if they're shooting "for" 3d in so much as altering the language of the shots so that you don't get jarring or disconcerting/disorienting shots when chopping between shallow/deep & closeups/longshots. Most films done in 3d so far (outside docos) don't really accomodate how the third dimension impacts the visual storytelling (although apparently they did start thinking about it on Robinsons - too bad the rest wasn't given enough thought though).

After all these years how many know SELICK directed NBX
by half vader
Aug 2nd, 2007
03:05:45 AM
? Still not many I reckon.

So, all you guys asleep up there in the northern hemisphere eh?

half vader 1.2
by SpookyOtaku
Aug 2nd, 2007
08:54:58 AM
No problem brother, as for "...might be doing him a disservice", I do not mean to belittle McKean's incredible work on the covers...I actually have a first printing hardcover of "Dustcovers"...i'm something of a freak for McKean...have the massive hardbound collection of Cages, all of his work with Gaiman, Arkham Asylum, the work he did with ian Sinclair (Slow Chocolate Autopsy...etc.), hell it was probably his work more than anything else that inspired me to become somewhat adept at photomanipulation...I caught his show at Four Color images some years back...the cover to The Sound of her Wings was awe inspiring in person...huge to boot. Too bad about issues 1-16...you should pick up the beautiful Absolute Sandman, well worth the price (can usually be found on e-bay for around $60) and it is sure to be worth something one day (perhaps not as much as an original hardcover of Season of mists, but something none the less). I actually have all the issues and hardcovers (1st printings cuz I'm obsessed) and have thought about letting the single issues go as I do not need the series in triplicate and the hardcovers tend to be more valuable, at least to me...though my issue 8 is the misprint and I probably won't ever let that one go.
Spooky again
by half vader
Aug 3rd, 2007
07:59:17 AM
Well, you know where to find me if you ever change your mind!! I seem to have pretty much exactly the same stuff as you besides that (d'oh!). I don't care too much about signed stuff (it was cool though when Gaiman signed that Hellblazer that he was really pleased as it was also one of his favourites and no-one ever asks for it), but there was a groovy Cages poster I had signed by McKean many moons ago. Gotta put that one up. Maybe next to the cross-section of Homer's brain!

It shits me that they've taken McKean's Kinoshow compilation of all his short films off Amazon with an explanation which says basically there's NO explanation as to why. It was supposed to hit next week or something, dagnabbit. And yeah I've used photoshop in my work since version 1 - almost 20 years ago, can you believe it?! People used to ask me where I got trained - but it was so new there was no-one TO train you back then!

half vader again again
by SpookyOtaku
Aug 3rd, 2007
09:39:01 AM
If I decide to let 'em go, i'll give you first crack... "Hold Me' signed would definitely be something I'd take pride in owning...that's the one with Anthea showing Constantine a flat where a dead squatter haunts the place right? I have the limited siigned Angels & Visitations...as well as the regular edition...will most likely sell the signed one at some point. My son has The day i Swapped My Dad... and the Wolves in the Walls signed to him (his name is Loki) by Gaiman as well as both Varjak Paws signed by McKean, he cherishes them. I hadn't heard about the Kinoshow DVD...damn that sucks, I'll have to keep an eye and an ear out.
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