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by underscore_only
Jul 28th, 2007
07:39:33 PM
First!
Kevin Smith......meh
by Loosejerk
Jul 28th, 2007
07:42:37 PM
Get ready for a two-shot episode about his junkie bbf, his anorexic wife, and AtM. Smith is not very talented and I'm betting these next two movies he does will get him writing/direction for The Asylum rather quickly.
KEVIN SMITH... HOORAY!
by LordEnigma
Jul 28th, 2007
07:47:09 PM
Seriously; fuck the Smith haters. Smith has a chance to do something with TV, and you are giving him shit for it? Nice. Very nice. You fuckers.
Jack Bauer in hot water. AGAIN? BFD.
by Demosthenes2
Jul 28th, 2007
07:50:57 PM
It's always ridiculous how much shit the government gives him after saving the US from terrorism countless times now. Season seven isn't yet shaping up to sound any more promising than six; the flying-by-the-seat-of-their-pa nts approach is hit or miss, and in five, they really hit, but now it's definitely miss. I'd hope they'd start planning arcs at the beginning of the season, but it sounds like they're already screwing themselves over by waffling between directions.
Anybody else see the Tony Almeida update??
by BetaRayBill07
Jul 28th, 2007
08:05:46 PM
He may not be dead after all? Please just kill me now. If your gonna bring back someone, bring back Michelle. Mmmmmm......Reiko...
Will Heroes OVERKILL suck the life out of it?
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 28th, 2007
08:06:39 PM
I'm starting to sense a trend toward way too fucking much Heroes related projects.

Something is popular because of it's rarity.

Lack of uniqueness is guaranteed to kill something loved.

And Kevin Smith peaked with Chasing Amy.
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 28th, 2007
08:07:59 PM
He did, he really did. It was his most "mature"film of the lot.

After that it was a downward shame spiral.

Ripper (a.k.a. Giles). TV Movie. 90 minutes. BBC. 2008.
by Barry_Woodward
Jul 28th, 2007
08:09:58 PM
Perhaps with special guest star Ricky Gervais.
I second that, Smith lost it after Chasing Amy.
by BrowncoatJedi
Jul 28th, 2007
08:15:17 PM
Sad to see a talent fall off the cliff at such a young age.
So let me get this straight ...
by ZakChase
Jul 28th, 2007
08:22:20 PM
"Ripper" was announced as a 90-minute BBC movie, and not only did Herc not spontaneously combust on the spot but he never even bothered to mention it? Wha...?!
Fuck the Smith haters? Fuck HUGH!
by Loosejerk
Jul 28th, 2007
08:23:18 PM
Smith can't put together anything decent outside of his "universe". I feel sorry for Rosario Dawson if she gets roped into this rip-off "indie porn" movie. The fact is that Smith is juvenile. His humor is junvenile and he puts absolutely no soul into his work. The last bit of Clerks II? The last bit of Dogma? Err, pretty pussy if you ask me. Apatow and company can do juvenile with heart in their sleep. Smith has his "fans" (i.e. 'tard strong hanger-ons) coming to a PROM for his BIRTHDAY PARTY! WTFH? This guy is definitely milking a career and his followers for all he's worth. Check out his site and messageboard....pure commerce. He really doesn't care for these "fans" unless they are knelt down in front of him with their wallets open. Fat fuck.
Will Cabin In The Woods feature a spunky female warrior
by PervOmatic
Jul 28th, 2007
08:24:30 PM
That is all that Joss Whedon can write. I don't understand why people kiss his ass...all his shit is fucking derivative lackluster pulp for the mindless masses. And Kevin Smith is the king of all hacks. Expect the pilot of that show to be filled with static camera shots of poorly directed but well written dialogue that ends up beeing extremely forced.
24. RIP?
by Ashok0
Jul 28th, 2007
08:24:32 PM
Jack Bauer being prosecuted? That's it? That's all the writers could think of? Thank God for LOST and BSG.
BrowncoatJedi, only his acting is worse.
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 28th, 2007
08:25:03 PM
I'm chagrined every time I see him in a film. Even Stalones brother is a better actor.

Smith has a single cadence for nearly all his films. Every bit of dialogue has a similar rhythm.

After a while all those characters become interchangeable in their speech patterns.

Can he write comic books better?

And, Kevin Smith is the most boring director alive.
by Ashok0
Jul 28th, 2007
08:25:22 PM
ZZZzzz...
I love Jane Wiedlin
by tonagan
Jul 28th, 2007
08:26:38 PM
I don't care how kooky she was in The Surreal Life, she's the bee's knees.
Cabin in the woods, Evil Dead 1&2, Cabin Fever
by EvilWizardGlick
Jul 28th, 2007
08:28:06 PM
Hmmmmmm.
"the horror film to end all horror films"
by Boomers_Lips
Jul 28th, 2007
08:35:18 PM
ok, i have nothing, but im excited!
more threesomes with Six/Baltar/D'Anna please!!
by Boomers_Lips
Jul 28th, 2007
08:36:25 PM
and please show a tit shot of Lucy's bazookas on the show!
Agree on the Heroes overkill...
by Crazy person No 245689
Jul 28th, 2007
09:03:33 PM
...disagree on the Smith bashing. Smith is what he is. Just like Tarantino, he filters what he likes and tries to come up with some way to put it back on the screen. For QT that's exploitation, B-movies and high violence. For Smith, it's John Hughes' movies, pop culture and Richard Pryor. To criticize them for being what they are is futile. As to Heroes, I hope that the Origins stuff is done as a nice side thing and that NBC doesn't hinge too much value on it. If it works, great. If not, it should not affect the flow of the show...although if we get some interesting characters, I wouldn't mind seeing some of the regulars die off.
Yes - Smith is hated
by woodsty
Jul 28th, 2007
09:08:09 PM
Yes - everyone hates Kevin Smith. "Smith brought the crowd to its feet and caused one of the actors, likely Greg Grunberg, to exclaim, "No way. Are you serious?"" http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/ zap-kevinsmithoriginsdirect,0, 531659.story?coll=zap-news-hea dlines Like it or not, people love him. Smith-hating is so 2004. Personally, I like this Heroes news. Looking forward to this and Reaper.
Smith is lude and crude
by ororo_munroe
Jul 28th, 2007
09:14:58 PM
Did anyone else notice that some people on the panel were offended when he said, "Now who's the fag?", in his story about he and his wife watching the show? Using fag as an insult is grade school behavior.
Too much Heroes
by lost.rules
Jul 28th, 2007
09:23:48 PM
I agree. Why don't they spend twice as much money on one show, instead of spending the money on two shows? That way we could actually have a decent special effects sequence.
Lude and crude
by woodsty
Jul 28th, 2007
09:42:12 PM
Yes - Smith hates gay people. Which is why he produced Small Town Gay Bar. (http://theedge.bostonherald.c om/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=10 12529) And the Advocate hates him too. (http://findarticles.com/p/art icles/mi_m1589/is_2000_July_4/ ai_63059701)
OH BOY!!! KEVIN SMITH!!!
by Queefer Bukkake
Jul 28th, 2007
09:43:20 PM
Man, I just LOVE everything he does. I mean, if there is a perfect artist out there, it's KEVIN SMITH! Everything he does is gold, and carries not a single flaw! I can't believe the man's talent! Maybe because he doesn't have any?
OZ??!?!
by Charlie Murphy
Jul 28th, 2007
09:59:07 PM
goddaymm! thank jesus, he's been missed in the buffiverse!
Herc loves Whedon...
by Mezzanine
Jul 28th, 2007
10:04:50 PM
I have nothing against having a man crush on a talented writer, but Jesus-fucking-tap-dancing-Chri st Herc... All that info on Whedon and you give us two bits about shows that are just as good, if not better than Buffy? More BSG news please. Less Whedon. And Kevin Smith sucks. That should be pointed out as well.
"Smith-hating is so 2004"
by Big Dumb Ape
Jul 28th, 2007
11:01:41 PM
Well, that makes perfect sense since "liking" Kevin Smith and actually thinking he's hip, cool and trendy is so 1994. So at least time is accurately moving forward...
Kevin Smith Hasn't Proven...
by topaz4206
Jul 28th, 2007
11:19:06 PM
Kevin Smith Hasn't Proven that he can do ANYTHING outside of his tiny universe of characters.

That said, I'm a big fan of his little troupe, but that doesn't make me excited one bit that he's writing Heroes.
Lucy Lawless' return should mean...
by NoHubris
Jul 29th, 2007
12:56:15 AM
...we are going to find out who D'Anna Biers saw when she beheld the Final Five (that is unless the resurrection pods were out of range).
Oz? Oz?? Oz!!!
by Sledge Hammer
Jul 29th, 2007
01:09:42 AM
Now unless this is some massive piece of miscommunication and isn't actually referring to the superb HBO series, this may just be the best piece of tv news to spring forth this year.
ahh, more neocon propaganda...
by Strabo
Jul 29th, 2007
01:12:45 AM
Those evil America-hating Senators! They're keeping Jack Bauer from doing his job and killing the islamofascists! Is it any wonder Rush Limbaugh loves the show?
Damn it...
by Sledge Hammer
Jul 29th, 2007
01:15:27 AM
Okay, that Oz. Ina fucking comic that isn't a tv show regardless of whether you slap "season 8" on the fucking cover or not. Damn it.

Well, at least I was happy for like three seconds. Might be a new record.

Chasing Amy = Kevin Smith's worst movie
by futureman3000
Jul 29th, 2007
01:23:08 AM
Unless you are gay you agree with me. I never saw Jersey Girl either so I don't know how good it is.
Kevin Smith wrote a pretty awesome "Daredevil" arc
by TallBoy66
Jul 29th, 2007
01:37:59 AM
Anyone who thinks he doesn't have chops outside of the Jay & Silent Bob universe, pick up Smith's first run on Daredevil. Very baddass, good stuff.
So Jack's on trial... for saving the day... again...
by brokentusk
Jul 29th, 2007
06:30:16 AM
The worst part of 24 is the fact that no one in government, by now, realises that Jack Bauer has saved them from disaster on NUMEROUS occasions and they still keep arresting him/preventing him from helping them. Now he's on trial? That is what they came up with to open the new season? This show is in big, big trouble...
Damn it!
by ev1ldead
Jul 29th, 2007
07:42:57 AM
I thought of HBO`s Oz, too.
Oz the greatest prison rape drama ever!
by fried samurai
Jul 29th, 2007
08:49:05 AM
Damn I too thought it was the HBO show
woodsty
by ororo_munroe
Jul 29th, 2007
08:52:15 AM
Holy $%^!! That was shocking. So, if he is so tolerant, why is he still using fag as an insult?
ororo_munroe
by RenoNevada2000
Jul 29th, 2007
10:27:50 AM
Learn to spell... it's "lewd".
Cabin in the woods...?
by RenoNevada2000
Jul 29th, 2007
10:30:21 AM
Hmmm... The opening song from EVIL DEAD: THE MUSICAL is called "Cabin In The Woods"... Whedon has experience with horror, comedy and musicals... Is it too much to hope...?
Chasing Amy??? Hackboy peaked at Mall Rats
by Flip63Hole
Jul 29th, 2007
11:32:27 AM
Chasing Amy was cringe-inducing. The funny parts weren't funny but the "drama" was fucking hilarious. Any time the lesbian blond started whining, I couldn't stop laughing. The pitch of her voice really hurt my ears though. Too bad that chick still works in the biz.
Smith's Heroes comic to feature baby in peril scene?
by Mr Squirrel
Jul 29th, 2007
11:46:27 AM
Like all his other comics?
Just when you thought Heroes couldnt get worse
by ScamsAndFlams
Jul 29th, 2007
01:02:37 PM
They hire Kevin Smith. HAHAHA
Ahn? Oz...
by Underdogthe3rd
Jul 29th, 2007
02:40:23 PM
a) The HBO'a prison series b) The Seth Green's werewolf
Whedon and Godard, then I'm excited
by hktelemacher
Jul 29th, 2007
02:40:28 PM
Until that day, whatever. But for the record, Chasing Amy is Smith's best and most mature movie. Of course, that ain't sayin' much - but it's at least got it's heart in the right place. And seriously, who calls it 'the biz?'
Kevin Smith can go either way:
by newc0253
Jul 29th, 2007
03:03:02 PM
Ba-da-boom! Ka-ching! Seriously, Kevin Smith can really bring the funny sometimes, and he's a big comic book nerd which is great also. The culture would be poorer without films like Clerks, Mallrats or Chasing Amy. But he's also a hit & miss director: even his best films have patches which just don't work and, on his other movies, those patches make up the better part of the film. That said, I'm still looking forward to what he does with Heroes. Like Daredevil, i think he's actually be better writing for other people's properties because more focused and less self-indulgent.
There was one bebefit to Football Wives getting canned.
by Pennsy
Jul 29th, 2007
03:46:26 PM
WAR LUCY LAWLESS BACK ON BSG!
Benefit.
by Pennsy
Jul 29th, 2007
03:47:00 PM
Damn, that's what happens when your cable modem dies and you're offline for almost 3 days.
thanks for the spell check
by ororo_munroe
Jul 29th, 2007
04:51:04 PM
seriously
Jim Rome hates soccer. Therefore, I hate Jim Rome.
by Pennsy
Jul 29th, 2007
08:00:22 PM
Sky One's Dream Team >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Footballe rs Wives, in every way (quality, for starters). :)
Will Kevin Act in this one too?????
by TomBodet
Jul 29th, 2007
08:25:19 PM
Boys after watching him in Die Hard Fore there-man man man he was Awful. I THINK that was just intentional-? semi-self-satire? but wow. For some reason I had a vague impression he could act a little. I'm stupid like that. Anyways-why are we talking about him again? Say did you hear Harold made a movie starring Ben Stiller about the Banana Splits-?
Yet Jim Rome likes NASCAR...
by Arnold Shitzembigger
Jul 29th, 2007
11:16:13 PM
I dislike both although at least soccer is a sport that requires fitness. +1 on Whedon writing nothing but skinny waifs who possess superhuman strength and can perform perfect martial arts moves.
Smith Made Heroes Mad
by TitsMcgee
Jul 30th, 2007
02:26:09 AM
I also noticed that Smith angered some of the panelists. I don't think i saw Quinto applaud him as he left the stage. I did see HRG and Alit Larter applaud him (she was in Jay and Silent Bob). But yes, some of the Heroes were definitely offended.
Culture worse off without Kevin Smith?
by ScamsAndFlams
Jul 30th, 2007
09:37:05 AM
Yeah, the Askewniverse (is that what you people call it?) really contributed a lot to culture. Not that I didn't enjoy a couple of the films, but goddamn they are not the cultural milestones you want them to be.

Jim Rome likes NASCAR to play to his redneck/conservative base. When you get that big you have to pander to all sorts of people's politics. He sucks anyway, don't know how anyone listens to him anymore.
RE: Kevin Smith
by BLWiseass
Jul 30th, 2007
09:45:10 AM
I dunno, I thought Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back was a lot of fun. Not a GREAT movie but a lot of fun
Xiphos
by Arnold Shitzembigger
Jul 30th, 2007
10:07:38 AM
I cannot take full credit for that one...my bro originally created it for Halo I think. It always cracked me up so I pilfered it for use here.
Smith's Best Movie was Dogma
by Itchy
Jul 30th, 2007
10:29:37 AM
if you don't agree, you're not Catholic. Brilliant entertainment. Having Matt Damon in your film doesn't hurt either. Smith is what he is - sometimes brilliant, sometimes hackneyed. He's at least an upfront, honest, engaging guy and I enjoy the fact he doesn't shirk away from feedback on a what he does. He's pretty much your average dork on this forum, with someone backing his film ideas.
Jane Wiedlin still looks good.
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 30th, 2007
12:41:58 PM
Anyone who likes soccer is a dweeb. You heard it here first.
Jim Rome liking NASCAR is a business move.
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 30th, 2007
12:43:49 PM
His audience likes it, so therefore he talks about it. But soccer has never, and WILL never be a popular sport in America. It's a game little kids play before they grow up and play a real sport.
Agreed Cotton....
by Arnold Shitzembigger
Jul 30th, 2007
01:13:31 PM
I played real football up through college... That said, I did find myself watching the last World Cup. Maybe it's because of the competition at that level, but yeah, soccer is doomed in the US because it lacks offense and the dudes take dives all the time. I still don't get NASCAR though. I've tried. It's boring as all hell to me.
Itchy, I agree.
by ororo_munroe
Jul 30th, 2007
01:34:43 PM
Dogma is usually a constant in my top 10.
If you guys are interested... nbc.com has the video of the Heroes panel up.
Anyone go to the Futurama panel?
by GiggityGoo
Jul 30th, 2007
04:28:55 PM
I couldn't go, as I was photographing my friend on the dais at the Alex Toth panel at the same time.

I need to hear what was said!!!

24- Jack loses it and kills some Congressmen!
by GornPirate
Jul 30th, 2007
09:26:27 PM
Jack going bad! We can only hope.
NEW video interview w/ TIM KRING...
by Peter Hyoguchi
Aug 11th, 2007
06:12:36 PM
http://www.interviewinghollywo od.com/tim-kring.php
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