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first!
by phantoquashi
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:26:21 AM
first?
Of course the cast IS important
by MorpheusTheSandman
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:26:38 AM
but the script even more. Anyone remember The League of Ordinary Gentlemen? The cast wasn't that bad, but the movie was awful ... How is the writing going, Zack?
sweet.
by phantoquashi
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:26:58 AM
i am happy.
First?
by The Rondo Hatton Blues Explosion
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:28:40 AM
Maybe. Regardless, Jackie Earle Haley as Rorshach? Never would have thought of him, but the more I think about it, the more I like.
not first!
by Wonderboys
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:28:53 AM
While I'm not so sure about Goode (He needs to bulk up a lot), Akerman (assuming she has the acting chops) looks a lot like a Sally... he and Wilson have certain quality in their faces that remind me of the characters as drawed by Gibbons... No so sure about Crudup, thoug... in M:III looked like shit and Dr. Manhattan needs to have a perfect phisique.
Who is Patrick Wilson playing?
by Jakes Nel
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:29:29 AM
I thought he'd make a good Ozymandias...
Ok, then. Fourth.
by The Rondo Hatton Blues Explosion
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:30:26 AM
As for the rest of the casting, I'm not real familiar with Goode or Ackerman. I'll have to check them out.
Anyone know what the budget is?
by Rindain
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:30:29 AM
Just curious. If Bay can make super-CG-heavy Transformers for $150 million, hopefully Snyder can be as skilled at putting the money up on the screen.
Most underwhelming movie project
by iwontwin
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:31:43 AM
I love the comic...but Im REALLY skeptical that this will succeed. You don't really end up liking the characters too much by the end of the book, and just like unbreakable...the joy of being a superhero is somewhat diminished.
Malin Ackerman eats box
by iwontwin
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:33:27 AM
at least on Es girlfriend in ENTOURAGE! HOORAY!
emotions
by darwinwins
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:41:07 AM
let's hope that this movie is bit deeper than 300.
too many nobody actors?
by pipergates
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:03:11 AM
Goode is good and all but i hope they put some known and charismatic names in some of the roles at least. Perleman as the comedian for instance.
Matthew Goode
by MetaFreePhorAll
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:07:17 AM
Is FUCKING PERFECT. Not too stoked on Malin Akerman. Or the pseudo-announcement of Rorshach (should've been Doug Jones!). But I cannot believe I never thought of Matthew Goode. He's perfect for Ozymandias.
The whole Keanu thing still bugs me.
by Horseflesh
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:24:08 AM
Even though he's not going to be playing Manhattan, someone still tried to cast him. It tells me someone behind the scenes is evil and working for the devil and things could still go horribly wrong.
"WRONG!" - most annoying phrase ever to be used
by Mike_D
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:27:39 AM
Thats all I ever see over at SHH! and now I see it on AICN...*sigh*
Hey Mo...????
by phaedrus007
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:37:18 AM
According to Dark Horizons, "Sally Jupiter aka The Silk Spectre. She is the former crimefighter turned scientist who lives with the powerful entity Dr. Manhattan." Fans of the comic will see that something here is a bit mixed up.... Laurie is the one who lives with Dr. M.... So is Malin playing Sally or Laure?!?
Xiphos - shocked you left out Maniac Cop 3
by Boondock Devil
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:39:22 AM
Not the best in the series by a long shot but Kelly Leak makes an appearance in this movie playing.. what else.. a psycho.
Hey Mo --- Take 2
by phaedrus007
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:43:14 AM
D'oh. Damn typos....... According to Dark Horizons, Malin is playing "Sally Jupiter aka The Silk Spectre. She is the former crimefighter turned scientist who lives with the powerful entity Dr. Manhattan." Fans of the comic will see that something here is a bit mixed up.... Laurie is the one who lives with Dr. M.... So is Malin playing Sally or Laurie?!?
I'm really glad they're casting no-name actors...
by SpyGuy
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:45:38 AM
Nine times out of ten, No-Names depict adapted characters better than Big-Names and they help keep the budget down to a manageable level. I still think Ron Perlman would be great for the Comedian and John Cusack should be Nite Owl, though.
About fucking time this came up.
by messi
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:54:04 AM
titty fucking calrissian tokyo drift. what the fuck man.
I agree with phaedrus007
by Brundlefly
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:58:40 AM
...I think Malin will be playing Laurie's Mother and people seem to be confusing her with Laurie. I've not seen any casting news for who'd play Laurie. That said, I see absolutely no reason why Snyder can't make an epic, ass kicking film adaptation. I don't buy the line of thinking that 'Watchmen' is unfilmable. Although I think it may be easy to make a shitty film out of it. Snyder seems to be going the right way casting wise - the lesser known the actor's all are, the better. Haley is a fucking stroke of genius as Rorshach - watch 'Little Children', he's fucking great in that. Crudup could nail Manhattan, he's certainly got the chops to do it right. Not sure about Matthew Goode though, we'll see i guess. Patrick Wilson would be an AWESOME night owl. Cusack is a god but he's simply too well known an actor.
I've just been working with Goodey...
by King_Knut
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:59:40 AM
On Brideshead. Will have to ask him about it.
If Hollyweird stars were used....
by wowsah156
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:06:47 AM
...then Watchmen would be crap. The story itself is the star. Actors who are less recognisable are the best strategy for Snyder. Very good strategy. Very good leftfield casting. We might even get a thumbs up from Alan Moore......
New news on Watchmen
by Franklin T Marmoset
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:16:58 AM
www.comicbookshite.com is reporting that director Zack Snyder is developing new CGI technology to show actual comic book style thought bubbles in this new adaptation, allowing the audience to gain a precious insight into the minds of his gang of bizarre crime fighting types.

"I was impressed by Ang Lee's over-literal use of panels in his version of Hulk," commented Snyder, "and I thought I'd show that little fucker what's what by taking it one step further."

Rumour has it, Snyder plans to take this idea to its logical extreme in the film's already planned sequel, Watchmen 2: The Watchening. State of the art equipment will mean the film will only be available as a series of drawings in a small book.

Way to go, Zack Snyder!

I want to know--Who for the Comedian?
by Mahasamatman
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:21:30 AM
My guess is he's just going to hire Gerard Butler. Comedian's not a huge role--though it's a great one, or is in the book--and Butler could probably squeeze it in to his schedule. But Butler's too much of pretty boy, I think. The Comedian should look like and have the build of dock worker or a longshoreman--you know, built like a gorilla. The kind of guy with lots of hair on his back and shoulders. But I don't know that I have any great ideas for the part. Suggestions?
I like this choice to play me.
by AdrianVeidt
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:29:17 AM
I AM conniving and quite slimy, but also very charming and witty - everyone likes me. I, Ozymandias, am amazing.
Oh great, another comic book movie.
by Garbageman33
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:40:31 AM
I can hardly, um, well, never mind. Seriously, is there any genre that has a lower success rate than the comic book movie? For every Batman Begins there are, like, 22 Elektras.
They are all too young!
by Klaus Herzog
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:51:57 AM
Veidt is supposed to be in his mid-end 40s and Laurie is in her mid 30s. These guys look like fucking 25. I know there's make-up and all, but you can tell the difference. Man, I was hoping for Jennifer Connelly as Laurie, seems like I can put that to rest now. And no John Cusack for Dreiberg still breaks my heart, but Wilson will be fine I guess. I'm still skeptical about this, I don't know if Snyder is the right guy for it (I hated 300).
I like the cast...
by mattyholmes
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:57:55 AM
None of them are too recognizable for prior roles, so it should be easier for us to believe them as these characters. Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise and Jude Law would have been too distracting in my opinion. www.obsessedwithfilm.com
Re-read Watchmen over the weekend.....
by RighteousBrother
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:07:52 AM
beautiful. When I see the first trailer for Watchmen - if I don't like what I see, I'll have to cut it loose, and not watch the film, it would be too painful for me. Still not sure Snyder's the man to helm it - I think Paul Greengrass would have made a good attempt though.
The Comedian = Ron fucking Perlman.
by MetaFreePhorAll
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:09:25 AM
Just Face it, Snyder. You have to cast Ron Perlman as the Comedian or your movie will blow by default.
Always saw Harvey Keitel as Comedian...
by RighteousBrother
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:11:54 AM
too old now though.
Not a star among them. Interesting.
by jimmy_009
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:34:16 AM
I guess they're going the 300 route. Getting Ron Perlman would be a nice touch.
Latino Review has done a great job
by palewook
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:41:17 AM
on covering Watchmen details, quickly too. actually earned a bookmark for it.
Comedian= a couple of choices who would be good
by Hookman
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:47:29 AM
I agree Perlman would be good, but I think there are others who would do just as good, if not better... 1) Mickey Rourke - After Marv, he could do it, no doubt. 2) Kurt Russell - I actually think he could do it, and make it good. His attitude would make it or break it. 3) Bruce Willis - This one was iffy in my mind, but if he plays it more like he did in Grindhouse, or Sin City, and less like Die Hard, it could be very good...
RighteousBrother
by halfmadjesus
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:48:44 AM
Greengrass was ready to contemporize Watchmen and make it more "relevant" to today's audiences. So instead of being a Cold War story, it probably would've had something to do with the war on terror, or how the Bush administration is evil - which makes no sense in the context of everything else going on. Contemporizing it would've required too many changes - even thematic ones, potentially - so I, for one, am glad that Greengrass didn't make Watchmen. I think the Black Freighter stuff needs to go, but other than that, I've been completely on board with everything Snyder's said about what he intends to do. Casting looks interesting, too, so I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt here.
Ian Mcshane as The Comedian..
by Redfive!
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:51:08 AM
he looks exactly like the comedian,he has that battered look,just watch deadwood and you'll see it in his acting as well.
halfmadjesus
by RighteousBrother
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:55:12 AM
Didn't realise Greengrass was going to contemporize Watchmen. I know Snyder's setting it in 1985. Worried that Snyder lacks the subtelty needed to do Watchmen justice - fingers crossed he gets it right. Oh, and always though Paddy Considine would have made a great Rorschach.
Mel Gibson - Comedian?
by MetaFreePhorAll
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:55:18 AM
I think he could do a really good job with the character. With that said, there's no way in hell he'd do it, right? And Ian McShane would be good too. He looks a little too old, I think, but his voice is awesome. That Dark is Rising trailer was shit, but his voice in that thing...oh man, he's like John Hurt-ian, almost.
Perlman is great, but completly wrong for The Comedian
by Klaus Herzog
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:55:45 AM
Eddie Blake is supposed to be a dead handsome charmer who also happens to be a perfect killing machine.Perlman, I love the guy, but his gorilla looking enourmous forehead disqualifies him for this part. Bruce Willis doesn't look like Blake at all. But Kurt Russel would be great. Eddie Blake is more or less Snake Plissken without the eye-patch.
cant wait to see..
by TimMighty
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:56:25 AM
..Rohrschach on the big Screen. When i first saw the Ben Linus guy from Lost..the way he talks and so on..i thought of Rohrschach..
this cast is not inspiring
by Rupee88
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:03:19 AM
Nite Owl and Silk Spectre are supposed to be middle-aged and they are casting them as much younger. But old people don't put asses in seats so I guess that is forgivable. Well the script will make or break this one as we know that Snyder is a pretty good director.
Thoms Jane is the comedian?
by pipergates
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:26:10 AM
says the rumours, can he do that brash, mouthy maniac that is the Comedian? I hope it's Butler that gets this role, think he would be more convincing with that attitude. I dont agree Perlman doesnt look like the Comedian, i think these other actors are a bit too young & cute for the part. Don't know anything about that Haley guy but he does looks freakishly enough for Rorsch'. -But like you said Morpheus, the script is the all important, the storytelling. Snyder seems to be able to get some strong performances. Just not sure if that Goode has it in him but as radiant as Ozy' should be...i for one would be very happy if Snyder actually manages to keep the pirates in the film. Cant wait to see the flying Owlcraft. And that demon-looking villain...Morlock?
the sally/laurie mix-up
by waggy
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:28:52 AM
the story originated at latino review. and they have malin playing laurie with all the details right. somewhere along the way things got mixed up and sites started referring to her as sally. personally i was disappointed to find this out, as i think she's a horrible choice (and after hearing rumors for kate winslet, my hopes were set impossibly high). ok, so being super-hot doesn't automatically make you a bad actor, but this is a big role, and all i've seen of her are entourage and harold and kumar. i hope she changes my mind, but this is the first post-keanu choice to really make me nervous.
Malin Akerman showed her boobs in Harold and Kumar
by Jamador79
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:33:20 AM
and they are BEAUTIFUL *gathers kleenex and heads to mrskin.com for a quickie*
Casting
by Gessner
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:39:05 AM
Isn't the age difference beween, Jackie Early Haley, Billy Crudup and the casting of Matthew Goode and Mailn Akerman, really off?? Haley and Crudup are closer to 40, and Goode and Akerman are what, late 20's????? I am all for getting unknowns but, lets make the age of the watchmen accurate.
For me, Bruce Campbell for the Comedian
by Darksider
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:52:04 AM
Just saw him on Burn Notice on USA. Didn't he even have the robe on in that Old Spice commercial? I could see him talking shit to all of the rioters from the front of the Nite Owl's ship.
Why are you guys still hold out hope for this?
by IAmLegolas
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:59:20 AM
I'm not one of those people that needs a carbon copy of the comic book, but there's just too much story/material/characters to get through in a 2 hour movie. There isn't anything to it that's extraneous and easily excised, beside the side story Tales of the Black Freighter, to boil it down to "the basics". This will end up being heavily compromised, pissing off fans of the book. And it's already a tough sell to the mainstream moviegoes in either format. Why bother?
RUMOR CONTROL! Watchmen casting not all over the place!
by Johnno
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:00:35 AM
They are just neatly gathered on a beautiful private island with other talented and brilliant people who are going to show the world... something amazing!
The Comedian-Mel Gibson
by RockLobster800
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:04:00 AM
with that beard of his...you know this must happen. Thank Christ Jude law is out of this though, his star status might have drawn too much attention to his character amongst character actors and it wouldnt be much of an ensemble piece...sticking to purely "unknown" actors is the only way to go-and most of it seems perfect-Crudup, as much as O like him in general is a bit....small for Manhattan (although Im sure CGI will come into play) and he's too likeable to be what is essentially a cold and alienating (ed) character...and the doll playing Silk Spectre-I dunno...she would pull of the sexy costume but I was hoping more for Lena Headly....everyone else...fine. Hows the Preacher adaptation coming along for HBO? Mark Ruffalo for Custer! Lance Henrisken for Saint Of Killers!
you know the movie magazines will keep using ...
by RockLobster800
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:07:38 AM
The headline "Who will watch the watchmen-and how many?" when the thing comes out as in "how many people will go to the flick". FACT!
The Comedian= Stacy Keach, Godammit!
by TORTURE PWN1
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:09:16 AM
The comedian is one of the OLDER heroes people! They really don't partake in that much action, and you can always get someone younger, ala Young Jack Napier in Burton's BATMAN or CGI them like X3 for the flashbacks. KEACH IS THE COMEDIAN.
Also, I was right about JEH as Rorschach!
by TORTURE PWN1
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:13:19 AM
Not saying that Snyder read my previous talkback posts for that idea, but I WAS one of, if not THE 1st to suggest him!
Ian Mcshane-Comedian
by Spartacus Hughs
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:16:36 AM
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these actors are too young!!!
by BrowncoatJedi
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:26:12 AM
Watchmen were about retired heroes in their 40s. Matthew Goode and Malin Ackerman are about 30. Way to go, suits!
Tom Jane would be a good Comedian
by MetaFreePhorAll
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:27:16 AM
I'd prefer Mel Gibson. That'd be awesome. Bruce Campbell is a sentimental favorite, but I can't take him seriously, so that could be a problem.
Holly Hunter 15 years ago would have been perfect as
by The Ape Giggins
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:35:09 AM
Laurie. Hell, she's still hot, give it to her NOW! I EEEEEEEEEEEENISIIIIIIIIIIIT!
Adam West as Hollis Mason!
by Fuck The Napkin
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:35:54 AM
I'll keep posting it until it happens.
To the idiots calling too young...
by jimmy_009
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:40:49 AM
...This has been covered. They are going to be shown onscreen both young and old. It's easier to make a young person look old than it is to make an old person look young. So shut the hell up until you've actually thought it over and have something relevant to add.
Kurt Russel as the Comedian
by corvette63
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:48:34 AM
The casting so far is lackluster. Hopefully there are some big names that will attach soon.
I broke Haley on here weeks ago.
by TELF
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:50:49 AM
Nobody listens.
To the idiots calling too old...
by TORTURE PWN1
Jul 23rd, 2007
11:52:55 AM
Ever read the book? The old timers don't take part in that much action. Do you think the film is really going to concentrate that much on them or that the filmmakers are going to go out of their way to shoehorn in MORE stuff that wasn't there in the 1st place? If anything, most of the stuff involving the old schoolers back in the day will be cut or trimmed to make room for things more relevant to the main story. Older actors for the older heroes is the way to go.
TELF is right...
by Ned Pepper
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:11:00 PM
...and he was also the first to mention that Billy Crudup had replaced Jason Patric as Osterman. I'm really digging the fact that there are so many relative unknowns in the cast. "Celebrities" would just detract from the experience.
Filming in Vancouver
by Kurzinski Valentine
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:12:24 PM
This had better not suck. EVERY FUCKING MOVIE THEY FILM HERE ends up sucking massive amounts of dick and cock. Just cuz it's cheaper doesn't mean it has to LOOK cheaper. I love me some Zack Snyder, so I hopehopehope it works out.
There are just too many ways to fuck this up!
by Klaus Herzog
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:13:05 PM
In some drafts the Minutemen are apparently renamed "The Watchmen". Ugggghhhh...that leaves are very soar feeling in my mouth. I hope they did some heavy work on the script otherwise this could be a disaster.
Why has no one...
by Transmetropolitan
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:23:17 PM
talked about the fact that Watchmen is much too great and complex of a graphic novel to be turned into a film. I mean, I want to see this, of course. But doing this movie is going to require leaving out a lot. There definately wont be an of the Black Freighter stuff probably, how the hell are they gonna do the Under The Hood segments? Something perfect like this shouldn't be fucked with by Hollywood. It is flawless by itself, and I can already see Moore criticizing it the way he shit all over V For Vendetta, which wasn't a V for Vendetta movie at all. It's not that I don't want to see it done right... because I love Watchmen, I love movies, and I love how direct adaptations can be made like Rodrigueez did with Sin City... but the complexity of Watchmen just seems too great for a film to be done as well as the source material is. I am just afraid us true Watchmen fans are going to leave the theater feeling like we just raped something we loved for the sheer ability to watch it on screen.
Transmetropolitan
by Wonderboys
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:39:12 PM
You're late to the party. Everybody has talked about that issue and it's covered by now. The anwser is easy... you dont have to watch the movie, and the fact that the movie exists, doesnt make the book worst. So... you'll have to swallow it. Im a Watchmen superfan (read it first time in 1986) and I've made peace with all this facts. Actually, Im looking forward to see the movie made and let all these years of rumors and gossip behind.
Wonderboys
by Transmetropolitan
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:44:03 PM
I guess your right... I'm just worried you know?
Fuck the Napkin
by RighteousBrother
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:56:01 PM
Do you have any idea how much it will cost to dress the band up as animals? Adam West as Hollis Mason - perfect!!
I'm not sure if Bruce Campbell could cut it
by RighteousBrother
Jul 23rd, 2007
12:58:33 PM
as the Comedian, sorry folks.
Jennifer Connelly IS Laurie
by MetalMickey
Jul 23rd, 2007
01:43:34 PM
Jennifer Connelly has been playing Laurie-ish characters in her last few flicks. Ackerman is will do fine as the young Sally Jupiter. If she is, in fact Laurie, then that must've been one hell of an audition/bj. And howz about Susan Sarandon as the old SJ/SS?
TOO YOUNG
by TopHat
Jul 23rd, 2007
01:43:56 PM
They are all too young for these roles, god damn it! They are SUPPOSED to be older! That's the whole point of the novel!! Fucking idiot Hollywood.
Transmetropolitan...
by Ned Pepper
Jul 23rd, 2007
02:34:04 PM
You've also got to remember that "great and complex" novels have been turned into great and complex films in the past. It's not impossible, you know, just really, really difficult. Maybe Zack will give Francis Ford Coppolla a call to get some tips, and maybe some budget advice.
Comedian = Edward J. Olmos. And stop the fuckin'...
by Luke_Cage
Jul 23rd, 2007
02:34:28 PM
...crying about Gerard Butler. He's one of the worst abominations ever commited to the screen, with his sub-panto-tourette-"acting". *sigh* Bruce Campbell???....*sigh* it's hopeless. Word
Steve Buscemi as Moloch?
by MetalMickey
Jul 23rd, 2007
02:48:29 PM
he coulda been Rorschach 10 years ago but it's really nice to see Haley get it. JEH EARNED IT & has Kovacs in his bones.
I take it back.
by TELF
Jul 23rd, 2007
02:51:28 PM
Ned listens.

I'm surprised they cast Goode, I though Brideshead would clash. But greenscreen film-making is pretty flexible.

I'm pretty happy with the way it's shaping up. I'm just not sure if Snyder's story-telling will be strong enough. There is a lot going on in Watchmen. A huge amount of which will have to be condensed of discarded. No matter what he chooses to cut out some people will be disappointed. I know, for instance, that the latest draft hasn't brought back the Alien hoax. That doesn't bother me, but it will be irksome to many I'm sure.

An inshape Michael Madsen could be the Comedian...
by The Dum Guy
Jul 23rd, 2007
03:17:46 PM
I could see it, only if it was ten years ago... Or Burt Reynolds circa 1985...
Luke_Cage...
by TELF
Jul 23rd, 2007
03:19:47 PM
Maybe a bit harsh mate, but I too struggle with the Butler. It's like you can actually see the gears shift when he has to navigate any kind of emotional change in a scene. And he can't talk. I couldn't believe that someone with a noticeable lisp was hired to be the lead in a movie where he'd have to say the word "Sparta" every other line. And again, 300 was so one note ("OK guys, I just want you to shout everything...") that I do question the sophistication of his story-telling ability. But I can't wait to be proved wrong. No reason why he can't pull it off.

But leave Campbell alone. He knows what he is and has never pretended to be anything else.

Snyder's story-telling I meant...
by TELF
Jul 23rd, 2007
03:21:40 PM
Obviously.
Too young? Read the book.
by oisin5199
Jul 23rd, 2007
03:37:46 PM
Here's the thing. You have significant flashbacks with the characters younger and present day stuff when they're older. It's a heck of a lot easier to age actors than it is to youthen them (that whole Magneto/Xavier thing in X3 notwithstanding, but that's a lot of budget). Plus the fact that Silk Spectre and Night Owl are 2nd generation heroes. They have older counterparts, so they're the young ones of the group. These two actors seem a bit generic from their pictures, but I'm hoping since they're unknowns, they were cast because they can act. This could be very interesting.
Correct 1985 AGES
by MetalMickey
Jul 23rd, 2007
03:59:18 PM
Drieberg 38 Laurie 26 Veidt 35 Sally Jupiter 56 W Kovacs 43 Comedian 55
Xiphos
by Luke_Cage
Jul 23rd, 2007
04:02:38 PM
"THIS ISSS *spits* SSPAARTA*spits more" including rolling his eyes like al jolson an' eatin' an apple.
Telf
by Luke_Cage
Jul 23rd, 2007
04:04:51 PM
Yo, I didn't mean to diss Bruce Campbell, I'm just tired of renitent fanboys clamoring for him in every role vailable, even thoug it doesen't fit. As one of the posters above said, he's too lovable and kinda goofy, that you wouldn't believe him the cold harted badass. Cheers and Word
Meh
by Blueberry
Jul 23rd, 2007
04:16:30 PM
Going from the Greengras proposed cast (Joaquin Phoenix, Hilary Swank, Jude Law) to this, one has to wonder if the producers are using all the money to pay Snyder instead of the actors? Come on, we get Matthew Goode for a role in which Tom Cruise and Jude Law were interested? Are they crazy? And let's not even talk of Malin Ackerman. Sure she's pretty, but is she up to the material?
They are going to have to advertise the shit outta this
by SoylentMean
Jul 23rd, 2007
04:44:13 PM
The Watchmen is a good book, but I think the studios are greatly overestimating the fanbase on this one. It's a geek project, for geeks. So, expect almost every teaser,full-fledged trailer, tv spot, and poster to loudly and brightly proclaim: FROM THE DIRECTOR OF 300!!!!!!!

It's still probably going to flop.

They need to bring Fables to the big screen.

Will Likely Be An Interesting Failure
by MetalMickey
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:00:12 PM
To do the book justice, everyone involved will have to stretch immensely & bring EVERYTHING THEY HAVE to the table. Snyder has not shown any sufficient dramatic chops & anything other than the FX/straight Frank Miller stuff from 300 dull & amateurish. Going with unknowns is fine (STAR WARS, hell even LAWRENCE OF ARABIA) but it does beg the question "What kind of budget is he being allowed to operate with?"
It's been a while since I read it, but
by funwithwords
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:03:14 PM
as much as I can sometimes like Billy Crudup, he seems too small to play Dr. Manhattan. I mean, I sort of remember him as being a really imposing presence (color aside). Plus, the cast seems too young. Still have high hopes, though.
KFC add on here, sweet
by SoylentMean
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:12:58 PM
Somewhere, Pamela Anderson is fuming (and eating a bowl of fuck)
I'm 25, and all I know about this thing
by Kurzinski Valentine
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:15:16 PM
is that is has a fucking uglyass cover which made me never want to read it. That's right, I judged a book by its cover. I'm a rebel like that.
Benefit of the Doubt
by Cobbio
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:15:55 PM
I'm glad Zack Snyder is casting leftfielders for major roles. I was worried sick Tom Cruise or Jude Law would be imprinting this film with bigger-than-necessary hugeness. The fact Snyder is relying on up-and-comers (as he did in "300") gives me a good feeling about the direction of this film.

As for its potential commercial success, look no further than "300". A modestly budgeted balls-to-the-wall action flick like "Watchmen" will likely outperform most bigger-budgeted fare, as "300" did. It's a geek project for geeks, sure, but so was "300" and that film singlehandedly elevated Snyder to the Hollywood A-list.

Another thing: it's not like big-name actors need to be cast for a film to be successful. Ask James Cameron, who has cast unknowns and bit-part actors (except Sigourney Weaver) for his mega-budget "Avatar" in 2009. No one is questioning his choices.

I'm giving Snyder the benefit of the doubt.

ImpulseCaper
by Transmetropolitan
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:24:47 PM
Are you serious? Have you actually read it? I have never met anyone who has read Watchmen and found it to be anything less than good, or anything close to overrated. You should read it again.
Jane Fonda as Silk Spectre I
by Klaus Herzog
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:36:29 PM
You know it's right.
Btw, MetalMickey where did you get those age data?
by Klaus Herzog
Jul 23rd, 2007
05:47:49 PM
Cause it seems pretty bullshit to me,
seriously...
by creepinginonyou
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:14:37 PM
keep ron perlman out of this fucking movie.
The good part about all this is...
by Wonderboys
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:17:36 PM
that we dont have to be worried about potential box office success.. It's not like when Nolan made Batman Begins, we all (fans) were praying for the film to be succesful, because we wanted a sequel. Same with Spiderman, X-Men, Superman Returns, etc... I dont need Watchmen the movie to be successful. I need it to be GOOD. I f the movie is good and people doesnt go to see it, bad for them, but I dont care, I'll see it anyway, and enjoy It anyway... So I dont care about the cast not having box office strong enough, or Warner not selling the movie good enough..
Well wonderboys...
by Klaus Herzog
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:29:56 PM
the studio probably thinks different.
Watch The Watchmen flop when nobody watches
by SoylentMean
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:48:21 PM
The Watchmen. It's all about the adverts for this one mates, if the trailers knock off copious socks, they might have a hit on them. Personally, I'm expecting League of Extraordinary Gentlemen numbers.

Who knows, maybe Tom Sawyer will pop up to fuck with loyal readers minds.

Keep your expectations low, fans.

RIP Laszlo Kovacs
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:50:53 PM
RIP Laszlo Kovacs
Who is Laszlo Kovacs?
by SoylentMean
Jul 23rd, 2007
06:53:17 PM
???????
Re: Ages
by MetalMickey
Jul 23rd, 2007
07:42:40 PM
Should've included a possible margin of error of 5-7 years. Hardly "hard data", just thinking out loud. Wiki has some interesting notes on each character's age/history.
I read Watchmen and it was terrible...
by The Dum Guy
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:18:42 PM
Terrible, how at how it made me not want to put it down until I finished it.

I've heard for years that it was a good read, but never got around to it until earlier this year. I can understand the choice to keep it a period piece, because I don't think the ending would make alot of sense to people after 9/11, mainly to extremist Muslims.
Only Crudup's a winning choice so far...
by theseventhshore
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:20:56 PM
...but they're all so damn YOUNG, as has been echoed here heavily. Shit...I live in Vancouver and likely can (and will) weasel my way on set to smack Snyder around if he fucks this gem up.
Oh come on!
by The3rdMan
Jul 23rd, 2007
08:53:48 PM
this movie is looking worse and worse. not only is a good book to film adaptation of the watchmen an impossibility but it's also unneeded. some things should be sacred. horrible casting, horrible director. a sad thing for comic book fans.
Overated?
by Kree42
Jul 23rd, 2007
09:44:00 PM
Well Ive been reading comics for about 35 years and I can tell you this, few things compare to reading a grand tale for the first time. I think some things should be left to the theatre of the mind. No problems with them making it just wonder if they thought if they should make it.
DeNiro? Caruso? Etc.
by WX1
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:09:44 PM

Anyboty wit' me on a redheaded DeNiro for Rorschach? No? OK, how 'bout Dave Caruso solidfying his comeback in the role of Rorschach?

Kevin James as Nite Owl, eh? No? One of 'em at least.

a hottie for Nightshade. I'll let the gallery continue.

Never Gonna Work as a Movie
by Queefer Bukkake
Jul 24th, 2007
01:27:41 AM
Should be a miniseries. Too much story to cut out. Will suck badly.
QueeferBUkkake
by TimMighty
Jul 24th, 2007
01:47:00 AM
..right out of Rohrschachs journal hm..
too many nobody actors?...
by gotilk
Jul 24th, 2007
02:48:07 AM
... is GOOD for a change. When was the last time a major project was ALLOWED to be made without being carried by a major name even at the pitch stage?? This is the best news I've heard all day and I hope it'd a trend. Another plus is no ego-sized paychecks.
Every time someone says Watchmen is overrated...
by Wonderboys
Jul 24th, 2007
03:10:14 AM
or/and is terrible an angel dies. People who barely can read should stay away from literature. You can keep reading Rob Liefeld comic books though, thats for all of you.
My thoughts on Watchmen
by Doc_Strange
Jul 24th, 2007
03:23:49 AM
I read the GN a few weeks ago due to the hype surrounding the casting. I must say it was a good read, though not as great as people say it is. I saw the ending coming a mile away and I absolutely hated the way it ended.

I think they should have focused more on Rorshach as he was the character I think most people identified with. Everyone else was kind of filler and didn't really serve much purpose, especially Silk Spectre who I thought just bitched about everything and did absolutely nothing, except laying Nite Owl. The baddie revealed at the end was just trying to be like Alexander the Great? I was like WTF? I understand why but it seemed rather contrived to me.

Also, while the art was functional, it didn't really stand out to me. It had some great storytelling but looked unimpressive. I guess thats what happens when you're an illustrator yourself. But was good overall I guess.

Don't know if it'll make for a great movie because of the time it takes place but hopefully it should be interesting if they don't cut out a lot of stuff. For my money, they should at least make it a 3 hour film to cover as much as possible.

Why isn't Nic Cage trying to get in this?
by Domi'sInnerChild
Jul 24th, 2007
03:40:56 AM
You are at times a very good actor, you are a comic book geek who named his kid Jor-el, you were almost Superman, and when you finally get a movie it's a piece of crap. You'd think he'd be pulling a Sean Young trying to get into this cast. Oh yeah, and rumor is the Comedian is going to be Shawnie the kid from John From Cincinnati to keep the youth movement going.
Doc_Strange
by Wonderboys
Jul 24th, 2007
03:41:40 AM
Problem with reading Watchmen now is that everybody has copied it... Its been 22 years, and in any way or the others, the its achievements had been ripped off or used in comics and in other media. So is normal that you dont find it as amazing and groundbreaking now as it was in its time. But I have to disagree about the art. Dave Gibbons maybe not be a flashy artist as many that are today, but is an extremeley good drawer, with great storytelling, and I think that only he could translate the tight script. Finding it "unimpressive" because you are "an illustrator yourself" strikes me as pretentious, sorry. Do you mean you are better than Gibbons?
I didn't like Watchmen... it insists on itself.
by Boondock Devil
Jul 24th, 2007
04:18:46 AM
Overrated?

Sorry, but Watchmen is graphic novel perfection. I can't think of another series/book that I've read over and over and happen to find something new or how amazed about how it still holds up to this day and age. Both Moore and Gibbons were completely on top of their game here and it just baffles me how anyone can really read it and give it a "meh".

Boondock Devil, I would rate the Sandman books...
by The Dum Guy
Jul 24th, 2007
04:38:23 AM
Around the same as Watchmen, the only difference is that Watchmen itself is a book, while Sandman is a series...

I'm just saying that both has critics that say they are over-rated, and most people are dum.
You know what would give this film weight?
by Aznbuddy
Jul 24th, 2007
10:15:34 AM
Cast older A-listers as the last generation of masks. That way, you see them in a has-been light and feel bad for them, but in a way, be nostalgic about better days. Imagine someone like, I dunno, Susan Sarandon as Sally Jupiter bitching her daughter out. Or Paul Newman as the first Nite Owl, being beaten by a gang of thugs. Think about how crappy you would feel seeing that. But at the same time, how a great movie it would be...
Drew, has WB yanked back again on the budget?
by TheRealRatigan
Jul 24th, 2007
10:21:18 AM
Is that why we're not getting Jude Law as Ozymandias (which had been the only foregone casting that we knew about since Greengrass was directing), and Hilary Swank as Silk Spectre II? And I thought Jason Patric was already cast as Manhattan? What happened to those note perfect choices? My anticipation is losing steam fast.
Crudup should have been Kal-El.
by TheRealRatigan
Jul 24th, 2007
10:24:14 AM
With Billy Crudup as Superman and Lois recast with him, how much better would RETURNS have been?
...anyone else agree?
I said Laurie Jupiter would be the important role...
by Aznbuddy
Jul 24th, 2007
10:36:38 AM
To give it to a newbie like Malin...I don't know. I haven't seen her in anything with enough weight, but she could surprise.

She has to be soft, sensible and defiant and no-nonsense at the same time. Can she pull it off? Only time and $100 million will tell.

Wonderboys
by Doc_Strange
Jul 24th, 2007
11:09:51 AM
I don't necessarily think I'm a better artist than Gibbons. Although I think I put more emphasis in making my figures more realistic as opposed to the work done there, some of my influences include Travis Charest, Alex Ross, and Adam Hughes.

I think the figure work was good but lacked something that could have made them look more realistic. Like I said his art was functional and you're right, it is not as flashy as some of the artists working today. He is a great storyteller but if you look at how Alan Moore works,you would see that he actually does the page layout for the artists to work from because he has very specific ideas on how to convey the story.

Gibbons did his best work, no doubt. However, I think that if they had someone like Brian Bolland doing instead, this Graphic Novel would have achieved artistic perfection in my opinion. I think others would agree. Sorry if I come off as pretentious but really if I saw Gibbons' work stacked up next to some of the other artists I mentioned in a comic store I doubt I would notice. Again, I think others would agree but then again art is subjective.

Aznbuddy, that's fuckin great idea
by Puddleglum
Jul 24th, 2007
11:10:20 AM
about passe celebs as the older generation superheros. And, that Newman casting as the original Nite Owl is spot-on! Or, perhaps he should be Captain Metropolis?
Doc_Strange, got any of your stuff online?
by Puddleglum
Jul 24th, 2007
11:15:06 AM
Not calling you out or anything, just enjoy look at good art.
thanks god!! no Cruise, No Keanu!
by FleshMachine
Jul 24th, 2007
12:46:25 PM
a cast of relatively unfamiliar faces...good!!!
Yeah, Capt. Metropolis...
by Aznbuddy
Jul 24th, 2007
01:46:14 PM
He would look good in that upstanding role, but I don't think Capt. Metropolis' personality fits Newman. Jack Lemmon (bless his soul) would have been great as Capt. Metropolis.

Newman or man...can you imagine Clint Eastwood as Hollis Mason? Seeing him bonding with Dreiberg...getting ambushed by fucking thugs...not that I want to see Clint Fucking Eastwood get his ass kicked (they don't even have to show it) but the gravitas of that film would be unbearable!!!

With that said, Jane Fonda as Sally Juspeczyk is a good idea.

Come on Synder! Cameos aren't that expensive, right? Right?

And America Shrugs Her Shoulders
by McClane_Corleone
Jul 24th, 2007
03:22:15 PM
And sighs 'who cares?' Blah, this better not suck, and better do well at the box office so we can have good superhero movies again.
Love Matthew Goode
by leatherfink
Jul 24th, 2007
05:08:14 PM
Awesome choice, thank goodness- now what about Rorshack?
oops duh
by leatherfink
Jul 24th, 2007
05:08:49 PM
Didn't read. Am so ashamed.
Gerard Butler would be great as...
by choincemail85
Jul 24th, 2007
06:12:22 PM
Shia's Pirate comic protangonist. Think about it... Butler on a raft of dead bodies, struggling with sanity. It's pretty perfect
i kind of feel like one or two big names are fine
by blonde redhead
Jul 24th, 2007
06:31:39 PM
too many more will overshadow the characters for me. i feel like aznbuddy has the right idea with regards to casting old a-listers as the old heroes. let the new heroes be new(er) actors. i did want jude law as ozymandias though, which pisses me.
*sigh*
by servnjstice
Jul 24th, 2007
11:44:05 PM
Just cast Don Frye as "The Comedian" and be done with it.
Typing "*sigh*" is like html for "I am a confirmed loser".
by TheRealRatigan
Jul 25th, 2007
05:23:39 PM
No man should ever type "*sigh*".
TheRealRatigan...
by servnjstice
Jul 26th, 2007
12:07:18 AM
wow...you come up with that all by yourself? you know men shouldnt suck cock either, but hey dont let me stop you.
Jackie Earle Haley
by warm_turtle
Nov 1st, 2007
05:48:29 AM
Does no-one else think he is a pant's Rorschach!? Paddy C should be Rorschach.
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