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AICN BOOKS! Adam Balm On SANDWORMS OF DUNE, Brin’s SKY HORIZON, New Van Vogt/Kevin J. Anderson And BRASYL!

First by Athanatos	Jul 21st, 2007 07:33:20 AM
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War & Peace does not exist in this dojo by Cobra--Kai	Jul 21st, 2007 07:35:57 AM
Too long dude - brevity is a virtue.
The Dune books (The ones written by Brian and Kevin) by HeWhoCannotBeNamed	Jul 21st, 2007 08:28:38 AM
Never liked them. I just plain don't like them. I am glad they didn't try to emulate Frank's writings/style, but I wish they would have left well enough alone. It's a shame Frank passed before he could finish.
HARRY POTTER 7 TALKBACK by jimbojones123	Jul 21st, 2007 10:04:32 AM
Why this and not that?
jimbo by jedimindflayer	Jul 21st, 2007 10:48:54 AM
no doubt homes; the single biggest book-slash-geek event this year and no review, let alone a talkback?!?! aicn is totally ignoring this, and thats totally whack, yall; give us what we want!!
I'm reading p 200 right now by jimbojones123	Jul 21st, 2007 11:01:53 AM
I'll be done by tonight... I'm sure many are already done.
Books Books Books by liljuniorbrown	Jul 21st, 2007 11:02:01 AM
I no read well. Anyways I think it's good that the Dune series is a done deal. I think people have tried to revive it and retell the material a number of times (I'm sure the original film will be remade soon) only to find it still only appeals to the same core audience. Thats not a bad thing, hell there are alot of properties out there that i'm probably one of like ten people that enjoy it (The Deathland series....anyone? no? didn't think so) but to try and beat that dead horse to revival ain't working.
jimbojones by adambalm	Jul 21st, 2007 11:27:54 AM
I'm with you on that one. The reason I didn't cover it was partly the pneumonia guaranteeing I would have too much other stuff to catch up on, and partly that I didn't think I'd have much to add as far as HP goes. But I do think there should be some kind of Potter 7 coverage here, and I assume either Quint or Moriarty or someone will post a review.
Harry Potter Spoiler Review: right HERE! by gride9000	Jul 21st, 2007 11:37:12 AM
Hi Harry, I got "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" in advance, so I'd thought I'd suck your fat nuts and write a review." I'm a fan of these books, when someone at work starts the shit talk about Harry Potter I get really loyal, because I love this series. Loyalty is the real point. Is loyalty through love or hate more powerful? Love conquers all is a reoccuring theme throughout history, but it is expressed so literally though a thoughtful and complex world created by the now very rich JK Rowlings. Let's start this off by saying, this was my favorite book of the series. There is more action in this book than all the others combined. About every thirty pages someone gets totally fucking maimed or killed. The shit has been building, and I felled after the Half Blooded Price was over, general exposition was whole uncalled for. SERIOUS SPOILERS Harry is big on setting out to find the Horcruxes. Firt Bill has to wed Fleur. Harry leaves Privt drive forever and learns Duddly is a wizard, and his powers were being masked by big D. The wedding brings him closer than ever to jenny. The death eaters show up without wedding gifts and we learn in this scene a little more about wards and how to keep people away. Harry shows more ability than ever. From here on out there is adventure after adventure and the only break in the action is to describe the deep love Harry has for his Jenny and his friends. Then the revelations: Harry is the last Horcrux Dumbldorf's bro runs the dive bar Draco and other Slytherin types are brought to the black house for safty. Harrys powers seem to increase by the day everyone get mucho fuckedupo when they go for the horcruxs. Hermione gets her hair burnt off hehehe. Harry has to face the big V and by the time he does this the whole world is getting fucked like a 2 dollar whore. Umbrige is assigned a Minister and tries to compromise with Voldermort. the press conference she hold turns out as bad as you could imagine. Tom Riddle is definitly in the house. He declare himself in charge. They leave the Black house for more traditional cover, Hogwarts. Harry and Jenny fuck like little underage animals. Harry gets tricked by someone they are protecting and is portkeyed back into Voldermort's skinny hands. He pulls a neo and GTFO like there was a sale @ Maceys. He reconveins wiht friends and Draco. Draco's occlumancy ends up helping him kill the big V. They use love to undo the Horcrux inside Harry and toss it into the vail Sirius fell through. Harry Avara Kedavara's the shit out of a stunned Voldermort. Dead. Rejoice. More happens that is so good I cried man tears of joy. END SPOILER This book will really fulfill any needs for closure. It is my hope that the love and loyalty that this fictional group of friends have for each other is transfered to our youth. I hope I can provide the care and love that is displayed in this book. These metaphors for our life and troubles are important. Voldermort is Hitler. We might go to work and home safe from torture or death but if we could all act like these characters and love each of our friends so much we will die for them, we would be living life to its fullest. If you publish this call me: Harry's big fat nut's
bad spelling by gride9000	Jul 21st, 2007 11:40:27 AM
can I get a spell correcting quill up in this beotch?
You actually think Water on Arakis is an oil allegory? by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 11:56:49 AM
Jeepers H. Cookies, man, how on earth do you read an entire series and fail to pay attention? The SPICE is the oil equivilent, not water. It is, after all, the source of "fuel" for the guild navigators and is the entire basis for the economics and culture of the empire. Jesus, this is stated ad nauseum throughout each chapter of each book Frank Herbert wrote about Dune. After reading the phrase "the spice gives life; the spice must flow" over and over and over again, after all the plots/sub plots and machinations of the characters (and the writer's own Afterwards statements)you walk away thinking water is the allegory for oil?
Moondoggy. by adambalm	Jul 21st, 2007 12:00:14 PM
Actually I didn't say it, Herbert himself did. I was quoting Frank Herbert directly who said exactly that in the July '80 issue of Omni. (Dune Genesis) Hence the quotation marks. But both are a metaphor for oil really, when you look at it. So you do have a point.
I mean, you figured out that Chaom is Opec by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 12:00:46 PM
And yet, even though you know that the root of Chaom's power/wealth/influence is spice, just as oil is to Opec, you figured water on Dune was the allegory...and you review books????
adamnbalm by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 12:03:00 PM
Herbert may have said that, which is the first time I've ever heard about that quotation (not saying I disbelieve you, just saying I had never heard that), but I've read other quotations from him in which spice was the metaphor. Hell, that was the entire point of Chaom and the Guild, no?
Brin is GREAT except for TWO things... by chromedome	Jul 21st, 2007 12:17:49 PM
a) He gets almost Tom Clancy detailed sometimes on tangents, and you just have to start flippin pages to get back to the story But, and this is a BIG ONE, he does NOT finish the series of novels that he starts! (Uplift Series). Often he takes 2-3 years in between books, so I advise anyone interested in this to wait, and then wait some more, to see if he does finish it, and then buy them all. You want to try something REALLY good, try Simon R. Green's Nightside series. More Fantasy than SF, so not like Brin at all, though.
forgot the "b)" by chromedome	Jul 21st, 2007 12:18:29 PM
dammit...
adamnbalm--just whipped out my dune books by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 12:23:36 PM
and it seems we're both right. In heretics of Dune, in the afterward, Frank states that there were two metaphors for oil. On the local level, on Arakis, water is indeed a metaphor for oil. In the wider universe, however, it is Spice, according to Frank.
The water metaphor is, of course, more subtle by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 12:25:18 PM
then the sledgehammer allegory that is Melange. Guess thats why a dolt like myself never really picked up on the water metaphor; I just figured it was the feature of desert life.
New Dune books... by chromedome	Jul 21st, 2007 12:26:03 PM
Are definitely accessible. Also pretty dilute, watered down sorta things. Which is probably fine, since you can read them fast, and you don't have to think at all. Kinda relaxing, like a popcorn flick. Their early ones were terrible--you would come to a new chapter where they were getting back to character not seen for 2-3 chapters, and they would CUT and PASTE the same Frakkin words (often a full paragraph) that had originally introduced the character. Maybe they thought we were too stupid to recall a character from a couple chapters earlier (Duncan--who is he again?) or maybe they needed it themselves, but my theory is that they got done, realized it was half the length (and 25% of the substance) of a real Dune novel, and went back and padded the spice out of it. I have read them all, though, and they were enjoyable enough. Prequels are weird, though, because they put all the characters in life-threatening jeopardy for suspense and tension, but there was none, because we already knew they lived in the real books. I will read this finale (and hope that it is a finale!).
and BOOKS with WORDS not PICTURES reviewed on AICN by chromedome	Jul 21st, 2007 12:28:22 PM
Whe knew?! Nice to see it!! ;-)
chromedome by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 12:39:05 PM
Totally agree, man. The "when we last saw our hero" opening paragraphs that ran rampant in the Prelude to Dune trilogy. Personally, I really didnt enjoy that particular prequel trilogy, figuring they were blatant cash grabs. The Machine Crusade trilogy, however, had an interesting premise, but I really detested the notion that one single character, (nora or norma or whatever the hell her name was) was responsible for both the powers of the guild and the sisterhood, to say nothing of that character's ascension to godhood. Loved those cymeks, however, and the origin of the atreides.
His father would be rolling in his grave by pantherec77	Jul 21st, 2007 12:46:30 PM
I'm not one of those angry talkbackers we see on the site from time to time. Normally I try to look at things from a neutral point of view but with the new Dune novels... I read the books when I was 12 and was amazed at Frank Herberts take on human nature. He was a skilled writer he covered a hundred different aspects of human nature in his books. When I read the last one I actually wanted to write him a letter and then I found out he was dead. I returned to the series twice since then 17 years ago and the books still hold up (especially the first 3). About 5 years ago I was surprised to hear that his son was writing from his "Secret notes locked in a bank vault"...seriously that's what he said..what an asshole". But I decided I needed to take a look. I read the first couple of books and was more disappointed than anything else. It was just bad writing and the characters were easily some of the most 2 dimensional cliches I've seen in novels since I was a kid reading from the Junior section. I thought wow, this guy got someone to help him write. Some of the best books of the last 50 years had been converted into .99 bargain bin crap. Then I read the Butlerian Jihad series because it still had Dune on the front and I hoped he was just an inexperienced writer. This time instead of including simply bad characters he began to fuck with his fathers universe. The bene Geserit sisterhood of his fathers books, an order of women who through careful breeding and training and constant research over thousands of years developed the ability to manifest sort of psychic like powers. (however most was simply training). In Brian herberts books they became instantly powerful by their initial member falling into toxic goo or something. Also, other concepts like being so intelligent that like a computer you can study the body language, movement and past history of your opponent to predict exactly what they were going to do becomes telepathy in Brian Herberts books. It's the same thing with the face dancers, and Thelaxiu. All of the stuff that made the books intelligent was dumbed down to worse than starwars could ever be. His new characters like Omnimous and the mech people (can't remember their names) are morons and Brian Herbert continually makes them act stupid while simply saying how smart they are. Their dialog is moronic, their actions are moronic and yet they we're told constantly how smart they are. Anyway I could go on and on but the worst thing of all is Brian brought back all of the original characters at a fraction of what they were. Some of the greatest characters ever written are reduced to the same level as everything else in his books. I swear to god Frank Herbert must have beaten him as a child because I think I would have to be a crack addict to betray a family member as thoroughly as Brian has done to his father. I can understand him having more books made, it's a cash cow. I get that, but have someone else write them. The greats of sci-fi would have bent over backwards to take the reins after the first three Brian books. Have someone like Kim Stanley Robinson or Orson Scott Card produce the books your father deserved. To drive his favorite characters in the ground was possibly the worst thing you could have done to his legacy.
Great Reviews, Balm. by Lurker Johnson	Jul 21st, 2007 12:54:07 PM
This.
pantherec by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 12:56:29 PM
Yeah, I really think a lot of the lousy characterization and illogical aspects of said characters owes a lot to Kevin J. Anderson. That man couldn't write a decent novel to save his life, let alone anything approaching the master work of Frank. Yeah, I know--Brian's name is on the cover. My personal take on that is that the man is simply handing over notes, remembering conversations with his father, and giving some brainstorms to Mr. Journeyman, aka Kevin J. Anderson.
Maybe by pantherec77	Jul 21st, 2007 01:02:01 PM
Wow read my post and that was quite the rant, think I was holding onto that for a couple of years. Never read anything else by Kevin J Anderson but Brian has had THREE series out out now. I would have yanked it out of his hands so fast after the first book. I could accept the name on the book thing if they weren't as bad as they are. These really aren't even up to even bad fantasy/sci-fi standards. Tyco agrees with me. http://www.penny-arcade.com/co mic/2003/10/15
Moondoggy2u and Pantherec77 by chromedome	Jul 21st, 2007 01:08:07 PM
Thanks, moondoggy2u--yea, I was mostly pissed off with the first books, which, as pantherec said so much better, were just crappy writing and crappy story telling. I was more distracted by How Could This Get Past an Editor/Publisher? than by anything in the novels themselves. The later ones were somewhat better (from a writing craft point of view) and became light, fluffy reading. Pantherec, you are so correct: The REAL writer of Dune must be horrified in his after-life. Which is why I said I hope this is the finale--let there NOT be any more Dune novels from these two hacks. I do agree completely with AdamBalm's comment that the original series by Frank got more and more inaccessible as they went along. It got to be slow going at times. But I think the Hacks "stated intent" to lighten them back up was actually a post publishing statement, when they saw how laughable their work was compared to the real stuff. So they just said "we Meant to do that!"
"Which is why I said I hope this is the finale" by adambalm	Jul 21st, 2007 01:36:50 PM
I hate to be the one to tell you, but the 'saga of Dune is far from over' as the saying goes. They're at work on another trilogy (Heroes of Dune). For some that's a good thing, but for others...not so much. But I do think they might want to take Dune's scarcity metaphor to heart, and realize that things tend to lose their value when they over-extend themselves and the market is flooded. They're in serious danger of franchise dilution.
dammit! by chromedome	Jul 21st, 2007 01:45:58 PM
Well, Adam, I guess it was too much to hope for, sir. Maybe they should call the trilogy "Gholas of Heroes of Dune, by the Hacks of Dune" and the first book could be "The Franchise Dilution Wars", the second "Destruction of Dune" and the third "The Reader Rebellions"
That ghola crap is WAY out of control by WONKABAR	Jul 21st, 2007 01:56:26 PM
I couldn't even get through the fourth book. And while Frank started getting too heavy it sounds like these new books try to go too light. The original three books were a perfect balance of Yin & Yang. Well, the first book really nailed it. Cheers on the warning pantherec...the Bene Gesserit chick fell into goo...wtf? I think I would have ripped the book to pieces. Thanks Balm
The one compliment I'll give to the prequels by moondoggy2u	Jul 21st, 2007 02:18:24 PM
They did a good job on the Harokonin stuff; I think they mostly nailed the Baron (though he isnt too difficult of a character to write) and I do feel that they write action a bit better than Frank. They mostly fail miserably when it comes to things like philosophy, politics, and vocabulary, but they do seem superior in writing action. And thanks for reminding me about the goo vat--I can't believe I forgot about that appallingly lazy, illogical and illconceived plot device. My subconscious must have blocked that incident out. May Sha Hulud bless fugue states.
Sorry to hear about AdamBalm's illness... by Alonzo Mosely	Jul 21st, 2007 02:23:28 PM
Remember him from my brief time in the Zone and he was a top chap... Get better...
'Zo diggity?!? by keepcoolbutcare	Jul 21st, 2007 02:59:10 PM
come back! Whedon's gone on to greener (literally) pastures! And, no, you were never banned, as I've read you wrote some time ago... ' and Balmanac, thanks for taking NONE of my editorial suggestions {sniffle}. Can you drop some more hints about the top secret tome?
but I wouldn't take my editorial suggestions... by keepcoolbutcare	Jul 21st, 2007 03:00:39 PM
either, as evidenced above!
I never said I was banned... by Alonzo Mosely	Jul 21st, 2007 03:17:36 PM
Herc banned Agent Alonzo on the TB, so I had to fall back on Alonzo Mosely. The Zone was cool but it just got a little too 'us and them' for me, and a nice old Italian chap suggested maybe it wasn't the place for me, and he was right... Oh, and what are literal green pastures? I am intrigued...
lies! Liar! by keepcoolbutcare	Jul 21st, 2007 03:36:56 PM
you did say you 'wuz banned in a TB that I can't recall. MasterWhedonOpticBlaster got a cushy job in the industry, the dastard. miss you anyway you irascible son of a carpenter... I should hasten to add Mr. Balm did indeed take some of my editorial offerings. Not that he needed them, the thought provoking analysis is all his.
All I remember about Whedon was... by Alonzo Mosely	Jul 21st, 2007 03:43:04 PM
I used to wind him up about the fact he was convinced Tiffany Amber Whatever was in love with him...
POTTER 7 by TheRealMoriarty	Jul 21st, 2007 05:35:13 PM
Reading it now. I'll post a review and a talkback for it tomorrow. Give everybody a chance to read it before we all jump in to discuss.
The new dune books by McClane_Corleone	Jul 21st, 2007 07:18:54 PM
Suck. Dune, Messiah, and Children together form the greatest science fiction works, ever. God Emperor sucks, Heretics is ok, and Chapterhouse is surprisingly good. Hunters was meh, I haven't read Sandworms yet, but the House books sucked, and I didn't read the jihad ones. I thought Chapterhouse ended the series perfectly. I mean, I thought children ended it perfectly. I think there's no reason to keep beating this horse, just Dune be remembered for the original 3 books.
SciFi needs to make more DUNE movies!!!! by Boomers_Lips	Jul 21st, 2007 07:36:11 PM
i liked Dune and i loved Children of Dune!!
mori by jedimindflayer	Jul 21st, 2007 08:35:35 PM
thanks a bunch... you rule! can't wait to see it. as far as the dune books, nothing exsists past the orginal trilogy. nothing.
If I wrote something like that I'd hang myself, Gride by troutpencil	Jul 21st, 2007 10:04:58 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you? I am no champion internet speller but that is some of the most atrocious spelling/typing I've ever seen. Incredible.
I don't know what book gride9000 read... by dtpena	Jul 21st, 2007 10:30:48 PM
but it surely wasn't Deathly Hallows
No kidding, dtpena... by filmicdrummer17	Jul 21st, 2007 10:41:13 PM
Don't get sucked in by that tripe. Half of that gride9000's "review" is total bullshit.
HARRY POTTER SPOILER!!! by wackybantha	Jul 22nd, 2007 12:54:46 AM
THE UNIVERSE COLLAPES ON ITSELF AND EVERYTHING DIES!!! THEN ON ETHOUSAND YEARS LATER, OUT OF NOWHERE, THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE IS BORN!!! AWESOME!!!
The found Herbert's notes by Defrost	Jul 22nd, 2007 02:08:06 AM
crap is such bullshit. No way The Enemy from the Scattering was going to be the machines.
Victor Salva should remake DUNE!! by godoffireinhell	Jul 22nd, 2007 02:59:08 AM
At least he'd keep the Baron's boy-fucking in there. Hotttttttttttt!
Release the Notes by HornOrSilk	Jul 22nd, 2007 03:03:37 AM
I think, once they made money off of their own version of Dune 7, Brian and Kevin should release a volume which has all of Frank's notes. This would be useful for many reasons 1) they can use it to defend their own version of Dune 7, but more importantly 2) we will get to see all of what Frank did do on it as well.
learned quite abit from there by palewook	Jul 22nd, 2007 05:54:40 AM
stuff that hasnt been on aicn
I love the way that Gride9000... by Edward_nygma	Jul 22nd, 2007 08:30:33 AM
...claims to love the Potter books, then procedes to get wrong the name of both the last book and Harry's love interest. Oh, and then makes up a load of fake spoilers like an ass.
HornOrslk - Bank vault by pantherec77	Jul 22nd, 2007 08:52:11 AM
Yeah I laughed when I read that. As an ex-banker, once someone expires that vault needs to be tagged and the executor needs to be notified. No way it just sits there for what...15 years. Also I'm sorry the plots of the Butlerian Jihad are just too stupid to be FH's work. I can see him sitting at the table now, "well lets see I've built up my books to show the different ways human history, psychology, biogeography and evolution has changed humanity over 10,000 years... I'm dying of cancer, how can I fuck with my readers a bit...oh I know let me pen this manuscript that dumbs down all of my theories and then provide an origin of the Bene Geserit, the guild, the fremen, the Suk doctors all over a space of 50 years. It's so god damned stupid it's brilliant!!"
chromedome... has Brin even finished Uplift? by turk128	Jul 22nd, 2007 01:46:17 PM
Seriously, the last book ended like Whedon's Angel series. Simon R. Green's Nightside series is really a treat; far from his best written yet the ideas he tosses in more than makes up for it. It's like Neverwhere meets American Gods. I also highly recogmend Wm. Mark Simmons' Halflife Chronicles. It's like Whedon meets Constantine.
Actually, by moondoggy2u	Jul 22nd, 2007 03:18:16 PM
I think that Frank probably did intend to make the ultimate enemy the machines. I just don't think he ever intended to do novels of the butlerian jyhad. I think that over the course of book seven we would have had flashbacks and little asides to the butlerian jyhad, but the jyhad itself would never have been turned into a trilogy or anything. Just my opinion, however.
Pathetic by jthere	Jul 22nd, 2007 06:28:21 PM
It's so sad to see Brian Herbert fuck with his old man's work. Most everything he's written has been a travesty and has only served to trash the originals. Can't Brian get a fucking real job? Seriously. Reading through some of this shit, it's like Brian was getting paid by back-references. "Oh, he wrote 'Suk doctor,' give 'im a quarter." Somewhere, an organ grinder is missing his monkey.
Moriarty re: Potter 7 by Dolph	Jul 22nd, 2007 10:42:42 PM
Why don't you just open up a talkback for all those that have finished, and add your thoughts as an update later? I need to discuss!!
dolph by dtpena	Jul 23rd, 2007 12:05:08 AM
totally agree, you can finish it later moriarty
I don't read so give me some books to read by messi	Jul 23rd, 2007 06:11:11 AM
I spend all my money on movies and records, so now I feel like reading, tell me stuff to read(not classics or fantasy or tom clancy, i got those covered) but books I have to read.
messi--some of my fav novels fitting your criteria by moondoggy2u	Jul 23rd, 2007 09:20:36 AM
And these are all modern novels (within the past twenty to thirty years) Dean Koontz--Watchers Richard Marcinko--Rogue Warrior Rendezvous With Rama--Arthur C. Clark Richard Adams--Watership Down Larry McMurtry--Lonesome Dove Colleen McCollough--First Man in Rome And just in case you want some good new novels, try James L. Swanson's Manhunt:the 12-day chase for Lincoln's killer and Stephen King's Lisey's Story
Turk--exactly my point about Brin by chromedome	Jul 23rd, 2007 01:08:36 PM
He did NOT finish the Uplift series at all. Two separate trilogies starting in different parts of the universe, converging on a conclusion that NEVER shows up. And it was a brilliant concept, too. He is a good writer, but I only bother with his one-off novels now, if even then. Yes, Simon R Greene is one of my favorites, Neil Gaiman is too. Sandman, of course, and Neverwhere! Neverwhere is one of my favorite novels, Stardust was good, but I would have preferred a good film of Neverwhere. thanks for the recommendation of Wm. Mark Simmons' Halflife Chronicles--I will have to check that out. Cheers!
HornOrSilk.... by chromedome	Jul 23rd, 2007 01:10:12 PM
...I think they should publish the Notes from the Vault for one simple reason: To prove they even exist!
messi, moondoggy by chromedome	Jul 23rd, 2007 01:23:09 PM
good list, moondoggy! I will dare to add a few: Ender's Game--Orson Scott Card various travel narratives--Tim Cahill The Civil War (trilogy)--Shelby Foote Some writers, in addition to the above, that I like: Jack McDevitt Stephen R. Donaldson Simon R Green Glen Cook Sue Grafton Tony Hillerman Elizabeth Moon Terry Pratchett Steinbeck Greg Ilse okay, okay--enough already (for now....) Cheers
One Trip to the Library: by chromedome	Jul 23rd, 2007 01:31:58 PM
Find John Steinbeck's "Once There Was a War", check the table of contents for the chapter (it is only 2-3 pages long) called Bob Hope. I never got the whole "Bob Hope" thing, and was never much impressed--then I read this and was in jaw-dropping awe of the man. He did something for people, for troops, that no one else could. You will walk out of the library with a whole new perspective on a man after reading only 3 pages. How often does that happen? worth the trouble....
Brin should stop writing pastiches of Asamov. by Smerdyakov	Jul 23rd, 2007 04:09:39 PM
And get back to his own series. The Uplift Wars was as good a the Foundation Trilogy any day.
Re: Adam's Spoiler Hint for Dune... by MC Vamp	Jul 23rd, 2007 04:17:27 PM
Please, please, please tell me that Paul Mua'Dib f'n Atreides is NOT the Emperor by the end of this. That is such a lazy cop-out ending in the name of "marketability" that I would fully expect Zombie Frank Herbert to rise from his grave and throttle both his son and Kevin Anderson (the only professional novelist on Earth who still consistently writes Star Wars WORSE than George Lucas.)

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