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by lost.rules
Jul 20th, 2007
02:49:11 AM
HA!
Studio Suits will ruin this movie.
by lost.rules
Jul 20th, 2007
02:50:37 AM
Accept it.
Third
by lost.rules
Jul 20th, 2007
02:51:38 AM
LAF which means LAME AS FUCK! As all first posters, ans second, and third posters are.
Direct to download
by Scanain
Jul 20th, 2007
02:52:48 AM
After X3, this movie is going to have its work cut out before release to get me into a Cinema to see it.
Not Ratner...
by Dutch Angle
Jul 20th, 2007
02:54:26 AM
...Not unhappy Yet.
Are they going with "Origin"...
by Kirbymanly
Jul 20th, 2007
02:54:33 AM
or something the studios cooked up?
Cool
by Syd Mead
Jul 20th, 2007
02:54:58 AM
Will it explain how Wolverine got his green card? Or did he border jump?
HUGH, LISTEN TO ME GAWD DAMMIT...
by Shermdawg
Jul 20th, 2007
03:06:27 AM
PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ANNA PAQUIN'S CURVES, GO BACK TO WOLVIE'S LOOK PRE-MANSION IN X1!!!

WHEN YA TRIMMED AND GREASED THAT SHIT UP, IT LOOKED RIDICULOUS!!!

And btw, fuck rothman.
Awesome
by captainhamsack
Jul 20th, 2007
03:06:50 AM
I think this will turn out to be pretty interesting. At least we won't know what to expect from a South African directing something big like Wolverine
I sense a new movie in the Walmart $5 bin is coming!!!!
by lost.rules
Jul 20th, 2007
03:11:03 AM
Sweet. Bought Escape From New York there the other day. Wasn't as good as I remembered. Don't mess with the DUKE!
It'll suck - just like X3 sucked
by Brody77
Jul 20th, 2007
03:21:19 AM
And I blame Bryan Singer for jumping ship to Superham!! A Wolverine movie should be written by people who want to do it justice, and if Jackman has any clout/love of the character, he'll ask for script approval.
It will be another poor origin flick
by Alonzo Mosely
Jul 20th, 2007
03:24:47 AM
Like 70% of all superhero movies are. There won't be any Japan or WWII or the Origin story where it started hundreds of years ago, it will be him being tortured and turned into weapon X, sent on missions to do bad stuff (but never doing anything bad because you can't have a hero killing in a superhero movie) then he will break his programming because of a woman and fight the evil guys who made him do it and escape... The End...
It'll be Good
by DOGSOUP
Jul 20th, 2007
03:25:15 AM
WE FUCKING DESERVE IT!
LatinoReview...
by TheGoddamnSiege
Jul 20th, 2007
03:35:38 AM
...gave the first act of the script an extremely positive review.
FEH... Remember Elektra?
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Jul 20th, 2007
03:36:32 AM
The ONLY way this will be good is if they make it like BLADE... a film for ADULTS, not children. When Wolverine cuts someone, show blood.

And yes, do it like Ratner did in X-3... have him take on a slew of guys and just butcher the HECK out of them before he gets taken down HARD.

And for heaven's sake, DO NOT make it into a pity-party talkathon, like Bryan Singer's films!!! That's PURE CRAP and the kiss of death for a superhero movie!

Give us realistic action/violence, a decent story, NO kids or cute animals and cool villians and you have a MUCH better chance at making money and getting a lot of people to see this film.

Think Die Hard with claws.

could go either way
by The Dum Guy
Jul 20th, 2007
03:36:35 AM
could go either way
whatabout, Live Free or Die Hard w/Claws....
by The Dum Guy
Jul 20th, 2007
03:37:53 AM
that'll sell tickets.
Good Enough...
by TheGhostWhoLurks
Jul 20th, 2007
03:40:31 AM
Just have him kicking butt from start to finish. I'm not paying $8 to watch Wolverine mope around and whine.
director choice
by erockwilly
Jul 20th, 2007
03:50:48 AM
it's wild the newbie choices hollywood makes to launch or maintain franchises. sometimes it works (harry potter 5 comes to mind) most of the time it doesn't (insert ANYONE here) (jesus Fantasic Four. i mean Barbershop was mildly amusing but COME ON). hell, sometimes you're michael bay and you never had any talent in the first place (okay, you got me. I geniunely enjoyed The Rock.) Basically if you have talent in any capacity (read: you actually finished a film) you can have a hollywood career. so all you aspirers that KNOW you can make better films than 1/2 of the fools doing it right now, write a screenplay!! it doesn't have to be the best, it justs has to be finished*. shoot it for ten grand. you'll make your next one for five times that. and so on. need more info on how? hit me up here. *finishing a project, ANY project (ANY!!!!) is the only thing that matters in the creative process. good and bad are relative, because if its not finished, its neither. its so four in the morning.
TSOTSI was a good film, but FOX is the problem.
by The Founder
Jul 20th, 2007
04:01:07 AM
This Hood guy did a good job directing Tsotsi. I think either him or the film won an Oscar for the film. it was good. Now I think he could handle Wolverine good, heck maybe even the Xmen, but as long as Fox is at the helm and you got a director new director or one with not much clout it's a bad sign that the director will be there just to shoot the film that FOX will dictate and want, and said director will have little input.
Don´t mess with the DUKE
by CuervoJones
Jul 20th, 2007
04:04:33 AM
Escape From New York is a great movie.
Fox is a Terrable Studio..
by Redfive!
Jul 20th, 2007
04:07:15 AM
Great Directing choice,heads and toes above The Rat,but Fox will mess this up,make it 1hr 20 mins and the directors vision wont be wha it should be.
TSOTSI is a great little movie...
by palimpsest
Jul 20th, 2007
04:25:25 AM
and Gavin Hood has a new one, RENDITION, coming out in the Autumn/Fall. Don't know much about it other than what's on IMDB, but it looks like a small-scale CIA thriller with some interesting casting (Jake Gyllenhall, Alan Arkin, Meryl Streep, Peter Sarsgaad, JK Simmons, Bob Gunton). Oh, and Reese Witherspoon. Hmmm. Oh well. IMDB synopsis (allegedy written by Gavin Hood): "When an Egyptian terrorism suspect "disappears" on a flight from Africa to Washington DC, his American wife and a CIA analyst find themselves caught up in a struggle to secure his release from a secret detention facility somewhere outside the US."
Gavin Hood...
by TheRealMoriarty
Jul 20th, 2007
04:26:54 AM
... huge, huge fan of TSOTSI. It was actually my pick for my favorite film of 2005. He's a crazy left-field choice for this, but at this point, I just want Marvel to hire real filmmakers and let them take some chances.
And what's up with Fox and Comic-Con?
by palimpsest
Jul 20th, 2007
04:27:56 AM
Pulling all their movies out? WTF?
Other directors who should be working more?
by palimpsest
Jul 20th, 2007
04:32:03 AM
Bronwen Hughes (STANDER), for starters. Antonia Bird (RAVENOUS, FACE). John Fawcett (GINGER SNAPS). Any others?
That sucks...
by blindambition238
Jul 20th, 2007
04:40:55 AM
Studio interference is inevitable at this point which means that a great movie will not only be wasted, but a great director as well. Not to mention that if the script review that popped up on Latino Review is any indication, they are going for a super condensed version of the Weapon X story which is his least interesting orgin.
Cool!!!
by Grrrr....
Jul 20th, 2007
04:46:39 AM
A fellow South African at the helm!!! Pretty weird choice but it could have been Uwe... Great stuff Gavin now please just don't do a 'Charlize Theron' and lose your accent...
Wolvie Fighting Ninjas+R rating+ non origin story=
by redfist
Jul 20th, 2007
04:49:50 AM
FUCKING AWESOME MOVIE!!!! The whole weapon x story line has been played out 10,000 times in the books and really no one cares. They have played with it in the movies and it is just enough to lay the ground work for a kick ass flick. So a whole movie about how Wolvie got this claws is just a waste. Give him a mission, maybe by the Canadian goverenment to save an lover interest in Japan and have him slice up 1500 ninjas from The Hand. Give him the honor sword, give him Mariko(or whatever her name was)....let him be Patch.
I agree that....
by mr. brownstone
Jul 20th, 2007
04:54:47 AM
at this point an origin movie would be lame. Cinematically part of Wolvie's charm is his mysterious quality. We know all we need to know about his past from X1-3. He is what he is. Unleash him in a NEW story.
Yobo - because they don't feel they need to...
by palimpsest
Jul 20th, 2007
05:10:32 AM
The FF movies make money. X3 made money. The suits don't care about the whining of a few fanboys/girls because John and Jenny Q Public will a) watch the movies anyway, and maybe even enjoy them, and b) the geek communities will end up watching them anyway, even if it's for something to grumble about. Whining about Fox producing poor entertainment is like wandering into McDonalds and complaining they can't cook a steak rare. Welcome to capitalism, my friend. Enjoy the good stuff when it comes along. And if it looks like shit, smells like shit, and has been excreted by people with a reputation for turd-manufacture, try not to a) act surprised and b) try not to buy it anyway...
I am actually from South Africa...
by brokentusk
Jul 20th, 2007
05:11:46 AM
Go Gavin Hood! He is one of the few South African-born directors who has now officially "made it" in Hollywood. Having said all that, I hope he has the chops to shoot a film like WOLVERINE - it's one thing making a low budget film in South Africa, but making a massive comic book film is a whole 'nother monster. I guess we'll have to wait for RENDITION to see what he can do with a large budget.
Frank Miller
by zabu 123
Jul 20th, 2007
05:13:01 AM
They should just adabt Wolverine's first limited series by Frank Miller. I think that would meet everybodys criteria.
Mysterious Yobo
by VinnyMac666
Jul 20th, 2007
05:16:14 AM
I understand that Tim Story and FF blows huge chunks (although ROTSS was a little less crappy), but where are you drawing any connection between Story and Hood? I don't understand your argument. Second, really ALL Fox comic movies suck?? X2 was a FAR superior film to Spider-Man 3... do you disagree?
so they're actually making this?
by El Borak
Jul 20th, 2007
05:24:06 AM
hmmm. should be good if they don't screw the pooch.
Tsotsi was great...good move on Fox's part...
by Rindain
Jul 20th, 2007
05:26:55 AM
What's up with pulling out of Comic-Con though? Anyway, as long as we get something from Avatar at the '08 Con I'll be happy.
Psssft! How about Neil Marshall?
by TheBloop
Jul 20th, 2007
06:20:13 AM
The man can do action/suspense in his sleep. Plus, he would throw in some good gore as well.Neil Marshall for Wolverine!!
TOO SOON 2: TOKYO DRIFT
by messi
Jul 20th, 2007
06:34:16 AM
FUCK YOU! STARSCREAM!
xmen 3
by palewook
Jul 20th, 2007
06:52:33 AM
nuff said. nothing to see here, move along.
What?
by tHEmOOG
Jul 20th, 2007
06:56:31 AM
" I just want Marvel to hire real filmmakers and let them take some chances." It's called HULK. Get it?
redfist, yikes, when was the last time you...
by Shermdawg
Jul 20th, 2007
07:08:59 AM
...read the funny books?

"how Wolvie got this claws is just a waste" ???
br> He was BORN with those claws!
Your comic book geek membership card has been revoked.
And my html membership card has been revoked as well :(
by Shermdawg
Jul 20th, 2007
07:10:28 AM
Yep.
Could they possibly get it right . . .
by Nice Marmot
Jul 20th, 2007
07:11:33 AM
. . . if it's in present-day Madripoor w/ flashbacks to Canada, Japan, and little quick flashes to WWII and Xavier's school? Seems possible to me but I wouldn't bet on it. Who knows, maybe they might actually ,at least, make him a believable hard ass and include the berserker rage. Wouldn't bet on that either.
I SCREAM NNIIIIINNNNNJAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
by redfist
Jul 20th, 2007
07:11:52 AM
that is all that has to be said. FOOK YOU FOX.
Luc Besson
by Spandau Belly
Jul 20th, 2007
07:12:22 AM
He does really wacky varied stuff and he writes good stories about killers. I think last year he made a movie about troll dolls and he wrote Bandidas, so I don't see how he can feel superior to superhero movies. I'd like to see him do a comic book superhero movie.

BTW going to see Angel-A on Tuesday. Can't wait.
Marvel Studios
by almostgrown
Jul 20th, 2007
07:23:11 AM
Anyone remember the shit films Marvel Studios put out when they were too proud to partner with a real movie studio? At least X3 had a slick professional look, which is more than can be said of Marvel properties when they were too proud to allow outside collaboration.
and furthermore...
by almostgrown
Jul 20th, 2007
07:28:53 AM
to do a Wolverine film correctly, wouldn't it really need to include Vic Creed, Yuriko, Cap America and the WildCATs team?
-sigh-
by Anna Valerious
Jul 20th, 2007
07:35:29 AM
Look, as glad as I am that Jimmy Marsden isn't in X-Men anymore, I still think someone should go back to his OTHER franchise. The one a certain studio doesn't think has a fanbase and the "anime-inspired period epic" Sylvan White doesn't know they made...
Tsotsi
by LORDRANDO
Jul 20th, 2007
07:39:21 AM
Yea, that qualifies him...a minor arthouse hit...a good film though, but what is really happening here is a studio sees a guy eager to work in the US and who will make the film the suits want..freakin shame...with all the FRank Miller shit becoming movies,...why not use the Miller/Claremont series as a script...oh, that would be good
X3 Had a sleek look alright...
by LORDRANDO
Jul 20th, 2007
07:41:47 AM
...and so did Charlies Angels...b/c they were made by a freakin' commecial director who made the leap less gracefully than M.Bay....
Should be 1st half WEAPON X, 2nd half WOLVERINE mini
by SpyGuy
Jul 20th, 2007
07:59:06 AM
Tell your rehash of Barry Windsor-Smith's WEAPON X if you want, but lead the second half into the Chris Claremont/Frank Miller WOLVERINE mini-series with Yukio and Mariko Yoshida. Traumatized Wolvie in a helmet stumbling around in the show + Wolvie in Japan carving up ninjas = Box Office Gold.
The Weapon X Origin
by Mosquito March
Jul 20th, 2007
08:08:36 AM
It seems to me like we found out everything we needed to know about Wolverine's involvement in the Weapon X program in X2. I'd be surprised if anyone really wanted to go back to that well as it's already been done.
Anna Valerious
by Mosquito March
Jul 20th, 2007
08:11:20 AM
What are you talking about?
Brian De Palma
by Samuel Fulmer
Jul 20th, 2007
08:12:07 AM
Now that would be an interesting choice.
Who cares
by grendel69
Jul 20th, 2007
08:15:11 AM
Wolverines already had 3 movies. ZERO interest in this one.
Mosquito...
by Anna Valerious
Jul 20th, 2007
08:18:00 AM
It's pretty obvious by my username...
Honestly...I just want to see Omega Red...
by Datascream
Jul 20th, 2007
08:29:31 AM
...SOMEwhere in this movie. Like having a test mission in Moscow to fight against an experiment Omega Red. I know they put an "omega red" in X3 but that was so lousy, they could easily write over it. It's not like anyone would notice. I wanna see the long tendrils ripping out of the snow and breaking through buildings. I don't really want to see Sabertooth as the main villian. However, if they DO have him in there they had best use Tyler Mane, he did a pretty decent job regardless of having practically no lines in the movie.
Anna Valerious
by Mosquito March
Jul 20th, 2007
08:31:03 AM
No offense, but maybe it would be more obvious to someone who cared to remember anything about that movie. I had to go look it up.
Wolverine has potential
by DEX
Jul 20th, 2007
08:32:45 AM
I dig the unconventional choice as long as it errs on the side of artistic ambition. ie. Chris Nolan was a good risk and Tim Story was a bad risk (he did a movie with no artistic value whatsoever). At least this way, there's a chance for a great movie. As for the Magneto movie... I'm a huge X-Men comics fan and I don't even want to see that movie. Fox should learn from Hannibal Rising as an example of a similar project that bombed. The Magneto character doesn't even merit a solo comic book, what makes them think a movie would work?
Shermdawg... I knows
by redfist
Jul 20th, 2007
08:37:17 AM
Wolvie was reveieled to have his claws for a long time prior to Weapon x, when Magneto sucked it out of him and he spent 3 years with that"bones for claws" story, I can't remember how he got it back...I was deployed during that time. and his past was explained in Wolvierine:origins. My membership card is still in my wallet, bro.
didn't Latino Review give a positive on the script?
by Argentino
Jul 20th, 2007
09:06:02 AM
I'm pretty sure the reviewer (not sure if it was el Mayimbe) liked it very much. I think there's a lot of hope on this project.
It Won't be the Incredible Hulk
by kevinwillis.net
Jul 20th, 2007
09:09:04 AM
Cuz Ang Lee sucks as a director. I hate all his movies. The Hulk was one of the better ones. Brokeback Mountain was Brokeback Boring. And he let Heath Ledger talk like that, on purpose, throughout the entire movie. It was all just so stupid. And the Ice Storm was so tedious. And stupid, in so many ways.

If Wolverine has long, sharp adamantium claws with which he stabs people and destroys things, and he looks bad ass while he's doing it, and does some beserker shit . . . I'm there. And I will cheer. And I guarantee you, Gavin Hood will not make Wolverine bright green. And I certainly hope he won't split up the screen like comic book panels. So he can say, "See? It's ironically comic-bookical! It's deep and Oedipal while at the same time paying homage to the comic format! I'm Ang Lee, bitch! Suck on my big artistic schwang!"
Magneto the Motion Picture
by kevinwillis.net
Jul 20th, 2007
09:12:06 AM
If it's Ian McKellen, I'm there. If they do the Hannibal Rising thing and de-age Ian, I'm still there. If they do it with another actor, not so much.
Good choice
by Cobbio
Jul 20th, 2007
09:18:13 AM
Gavin Hood's a good choice to direct, in my opinion. He gets great performances out of his actors (which is most important to me), his creativity in shooting is very strong, and he doesn't bullshit. "Tsotsi" was a surprisingly intense, morally ambiguous movie. Hood took lots of chances with it, and they paid off.

Will Fox will let Gavin take some chances on "Wolverine"? I don't know. They'll keep him under wraps for the most part, in all likelihood, but I hope waves of his artistry splash onto the screen anyway.

I'm suddenly looking forward to this film.

Wolverine's origin was a mystery for 20 years
by Bass Bastardson
Jul 20th, 2007
09:18:52 AM
And it should have remained that way. He was a much more interesting character before they decided to explain everything about him.
Well at least it might be gritty looking
by Neo Zeed
Jul 20th, 2007
09:22:59 AM
Instead of the clean look of the X-men films. I could say, "They should hire an action director." But they don't really exist anymore (The 80s/90s are over). All you really have is Len Wiseman, Ratner, and Paul WS. I mean, isn't that shitty director of Constantine making a summer blocbuster? Although, I'd like to see the director of Hostage try his hand at a comic book movie though. I think he had a good visual eye.
Maybe Marvel is finally started to care about...
by rbatty024
Jul 20th, 2007
09:23:31 AM
their films again. The director seems to make or break this films, which is hardly shocking and it's about time the studios figure this out. Unfortunately the quality of the film does not equal better box office returns. I enjoyed Tsotsi and think it's a daring choice.
Speaking of the writing.
by Nice Marmot
Jul 20th, 2007
09:25:52 AM
What the hell is Chris Claremont doing? I haven't read an X-Book since we found out Wolverine's claws were organic/bone, someone mentioned it earlier. I haven't had the time or money for comics. Does anyone know what Claremont is doing or has done since he left the X-World? Now that I think of it, I'd like to go back and pick up the story where I left off. Or would that be a mistake? Any good? Anyone?
AM I ALONE...
by WISEBLOOD
Jul 20th, 2007
09:26:50 AM
in thinking that Hugh Jackman, while a fine actor, was not a very good wolverine? Physically, he was miscast, and though he got some of the character nuances right, by and large (to me, anyway) I felt like he was doing a "wolverine impression" rather than actually inhabiting the character. It just seems like he was doing a kinder, gentler wolverine. I guess I have a fondness for the really grimy, mean, brutal sonuvabitch from the comics... But don't get me wrong, I'm not hatin...I thought XMen 1 and 2 (especially 2) were really good, and HJ is, as I said before, a fine actor, I just think they could have gone with someone a little less tall, handsome and dignified, and chosen someone a little more fitting to character, both physically and in performance... Just my .002
Oh and this movie will be PG-13.
by Neo Zeed
Jul 20th, 2007
09:27:06 AM
Anyone who thinks differently, doesn't know much about Hollywood.
Great choice for a director!
by Boondock Devil
Jul 20th, 2007
09:30:02 AM
Loved TSOTSI. Plus anytime that Ratner doesn't get to direct or have anything to do with the X-Franchise a mutant angel gets it's wings... and third eye.
Will Wolvie cry a lot in this one?
by rev_skarekroe
Jul 20th, 2007
09:32:10 AM
Let's hope so. If there's one thing the last X movie showed us, it's that it's ok for tough guys to turn on the waterworks every now and then.

Also, Omega Red is one of those dumb '90s villains with armor and a giant pony tail who's always shouting, right? Let's keep him out of the film.

OH YEAH, AND...
by WISEBLOOD
Jul 20th, 2007
09:34:29 AM
Van Helsing was the weakest fucking movie ever. It makes Ishtar look like Young Frankenstein.
Mosquito...I don't think you realize...
by Anna Valerious
Jul 20th, 2007
09:36:54 AM
There IS a rabid "Van Helsing" fanbase out there. And if the executives at Universal would stop this ridiculous idea of making every one of their franchises straight-to-DVD crap, then they'd realize it. I have a petition going which is gaining momentum. As well as a certain Dutch monster hunter showing up on an episode of "The Fairly Oddparents". I'm sorry, but we do remember the film and we fans aren't going to stand for Universal concentrating on "Castlevania" while there's already an anime-influenced period piece they need to work on more. Valerious, out.
X3, Wolvie, and other subjects
by tylermo
Jul 20th, 2007
09:44:24 AM
In a perfect world, it would have been nice to have Bryan Singer on board with X3. Superman Returns was okay, but not as good as it should have been. Little more action, and the Lois Lane from Smallville would have slightly improved the film. As for Marsden, he's not getting Oscars for his role as Cyclops, but I thought he was okay. Felt he got shafted screentime-wise in X2, and I suspect he was on the set of Supes during the shooting of X3. DOn't know that for a fact. Cyclops shouldn't have been killed of in X3. He and Phoenix should have had their Uncanny 129-137 moments(minus being on the moon, the Inhumans(?), etc), and Wolvie should have maybe been off the side dealing with her death as Cyke's blast killed her. Rouge shouldn't have given up her powers, and there should have been far fewer mutants. Angel, Bobby, and most of the main cast were fine. Kelsey Grammar delivered the goods. That's just me. I'm a nitpicky comic book guy, just not as nitpicky as most of that crowd. In the end, X3 did disappoint on many fronts. As for Wolvie movie...would be cool, if they don't blow it. And, I totally agree that Marvel needs to raise the bar on these movies. I have found a degree of enjoyment in movies that many officionados didn't enjoy...Hulk, Daredevil, FF's 1 and 2(although, they totally blew it with Doom). The aforementioned are not masterpieces, but okay for popcorn. That's just me.
Comic book movies need to get PAST origins
by ScamsAndFlams
Jul 20th, 2007
09:46:13 AM
Don't you think it would be way more awesome to just have a good plot revolving around Wolvie vs. Bad Guys for a whole film? Then, in the sequel, explain his mysterious origins or something. Fuck, I'm so tired of being treated like an idiot by every comic book film. Every film, really. Maybe I'm just an idiot.
The X-films should just die...
by blindambition238
Jul 20th, 2007
09:51:39 AM
X3 was pretty much a point of no return in how much they screwed with the characters. If I had my total nerdy x-universe dream they would have let Singer do a proper X3 and X4 for an actual Phoenix story, turned the New X-Men/ New Mutants idea into a smallvillesque spinoff tv series, while letting character films and X films continue.
Thank you, rev_skarekroe
by Nice Marmot
Jul 20th, 2007
09:51:58 AM
The top 3 OH-SO overrated, new-school, ultra hip, dangerous characters introduced in the 90s with the added bonus of having past ties w/ Wolverine are . . . 1) Gambit 2) Deadpool 3) Omega Red Don't have time to think of the rest. Maybe someone else can add on to it. And fuck you, in advance, to any Gambit lovers that have a problem with this.
X-Men 3 was fantastic
by ejcarter9
Jul 20th, 2007
09:56:05 AM
Don't know why I have to keep saying it.
Nice Marmot
by blindambition238
Jul 20th, 2007
09:57:58 AM
I reckon I would probably knock Deadpool off that list since hes pretty much just a comic parody character now; but in his place you really need to put Cable up there.
NO NO NO NO!!!!
by HailDaHypnoToad
Jul 20th, 2007
10:02:21 AM
I've said it and I will KEEP saying it. Frank Miller to write and ROBERT RODRIQUEZ to direct. R-Rated 2 hours. DAMMIT. Getting these arty-fartsy eurotrash directors is a sure way to end up with another (ugh, shudder) CATWOMAN.
P.s
by HailDaHypnoToad
Jul 20th, 2007
10:03:32 AM
Damn Tom ROTHMAN TO HELL. The Hell where people are SKINNED alive, its that simple. DO YOU UNDERSTAND!!!
I think an ambitious director is the only way...
by rbatty024
Jul 20th, 2007
10:10:46 AM
you can inject some life into the franchise after X3. That was a complete abomination and they only have the studio to blame. Sure, it made lots of money but the drop off was insane. Let's hope cash will speak to these morons because apparently quality of product means nothing.
Enuff with the origin Story. Blah.
by Diagnostic
Jul 20th, 2007
10:12:48 AM
The charachter is already established. Just get on with a good story arc.
In the comics, the fact his origin was left to imaginiation/speculation created an atmosphere other characters could not atain.

BTW I want a dance number in Wolverine.
PERFECT
by supermarch
Jul 20th, 2007
10:14:02 AM
btw he's not "Euro" you retards. Gavin Hood will be your new favorite director soon enough. Might as well start with this.
X-Men 3 Was Good
by kevinwillis.net
Jul 20th, 2007
10:15:52 AM
I don't think it was fantastic. But it was a perfectly fun movie, lots of good stuff. More actual demonstration of powers than in the first two movies put together. Not great, Pheonix story line was mishandled, but Bret Ratner probably did as good a job as he could, given the limitations he was working under. I say a solid B- for X-Men 3.
Re: HailDa
by Cobbio
Jul 20th, 2007
10:22:43 AM
Don't call Gavin Hood an "artsy-fartsy Eurotrash director," HailDaHypnoToad. Your opinion is juvenile as well as misinformed. Hood is South African, not European (how would you like to be called British when you're an American?), and he sure ain't artsy-fartsy. "Tsotsi" and the upcoming "Rendition" both contain some intensely filmed violence, so just because Rodriguez won't direct doesn't mean "Wolverine" will suck.

After the boring silliness that was "Grindhouse" (this is the reason the film bombed, not bad marketing), I'm glad someone other than a Hollywood insider is taking the reigns of "Wolverine."

I'm pretty sure you'll like Hood's style.

I actually don't blame Ratner for how bad...
by rbatty024
Jul 20th, 2007
10:22:57 AM
X3 was (and I really hated that movie). I think it was the studio exercising control to limit costs to the point where a director couldn't really do anything about it. Don't get me wrong, Ratner is a bad to mediocre director, but I don't think there was much he could have done to save the film. If he had the balls to stand up to the studio then he wouldn't have been hired in the first place.
I hate Wolverine's solo stories
by INWOsuxRED
Jul 20th, 2007
10:23:26 AM
It will be very hard to make a good Wolverine movie, especially if the crew and script are interchangable to the studio.
Wolverine could be good
by santi01
Jul 20th, 2007
10:44:50 AM
If they treat this the opposite way as they did X3 it could work. Gotta be grittier and rated R, which prolly wont happen since they made Wolverine into a big ****y in X3..
Wolverine should be a two hour action epic
by liljuniorbrown
Jul 20th, 2007
11:20:34 AM
Seriously,instead of trying to give these big franchise movies over to the pg-13 kiddie lunch box crowd,make them for the crowd that has been supporting the material for the past twenty years. We need Wolverine on an epic scale, no crazy hair and crying over old girlfriends. Wolverine's movie should start out with him as a traveling Samurai/Assasin warrior,kind of like the Bride in Kill Bill. You could honestly go in ten thousand different angles and not fail as long as you keep the core elements and no corny X3 shit.
DO MARK MILLAR'S "ENEMY OF THE STATE"!!!!! NOW!!!
by TallBoy66
Jul 20th, 2007
11:35:24 AM
Its basically an 11 issue varriation upon the theme of "Wolverine kills the fuck out of somebody". No bogging down in origins, very newbie friendly, just absolulte insanity. Do it! Nobody wants to see James Howlett: The Movie. We want blood!
Matthew Vaughn was a good director to... but X3?
by modlight
Jul 20th, 2007
11:37:02 AM
This guy will go nuts dealing with Fox and split
rbatty024, I agree with you.
by modlight
Jul 20th, 2007
11:38:12 AM
I'm no fan of Brett, but he did the best he could as a hired gun. That was doomed before he set foot behind a camera.
wow sure sounds better than Rats
by pipergates
Jul 20th, 2007
11:56:48 AM
i have new hope
I don't know what you guys are bitching about..
by ShogunMaster
Jul 20th, 2007
12:03:38 PM
It will be almost as good as Alien vs Predator, so we know we are in good hands...
and people hated Hulk because it got a good director
by Faust_8
Jul 20th, 2007
12:05:25 PM
Bad looking Hulk, yeah sure you idiots.
Gavin Hood's US career will be destroyed!
by MetalMickey
Jul 20th, 2007
12:21:31 PM
Fox might make a buck or two but Hood WILL be the fall guy when this thing crashes. Other promising foreign directors who made shit in the states: Lee Tamahori (Die Another Day), Jeunet (Alien 4), Ang Lee (Hulk), Neil Jordan, et al
Magneto: The Motion Picture
by MetalMickey
Jul 20th, 2007
12:24:42 PM
Brought to you by the same flawed logic that greenlit HANNIBAL RISING.
X-MEN 3 was great.
by Motoko Kusanagi
Jul 20th, 2007
12:44:03 PM
Liked it more than X2.
I fail to see how this is good news
by IndustryKiller!
Jul 20th, 2007
12:58:17 PM
All the way around this sucks. I would rather Gavin Hood do anything than sell out for mainstream Hollywood success. He could be out there making brilliant and important films like Tsotsi, but instead he's going to be making some crap comic book spin off with a terrible script. Also Jackman got progressively worse as Wolverine as that series went on. I;m convinced at this point he just doesn't have hte kind of edge one needs to pull off that character correctly. He lacks a certain primal touch that is a major part of Wolverines character. Ugh.
This bears repeating:
by IAmLegolas
Jul 20th, 2007
01:15:48 PM
"Studio Suits will ruin this movie."
MetalMickey "Gavin Hood's US career will be destroyed!"
by IAmLegolas
Jul 20th, 2007
01:18:03 PM
you also forgot Jean-Pierre Jeunet (ALIEN 4)
Oops
by IAmLegolas
Jul 20th, 2007
01:19:54 PM
nevermind, guess you didn't forget him
FOX are a bit of a jerk off
by IAmLegolas
Jul 20th, 2007
01:22:32 PM
Fox Yanks Films from Comic-Con

Twentieth Century Fox on Wednesday suddenly pulled several highly touted films from next week's Comic-Con in San Diego, saying that "the material wasn't ready." The films included director Doug Liman's Jumper, starring Hayden Christensen; the sequel Aliens vs. Predator, directed by Colin and Greg Strause; Babylon A.D., starring Vin Diesel; and Hitman, starring Timothy Olyphant. The studio's action miffed organizers of the high-profile convention. David Glanzer, a spokesman for Comic-Con, told the Los Angeles Times: "Every major studio usually has a presence at Comic-Con so for Fox to pull out a week before is very unusual." One blogger observed on the Times' website: "Something smells a little fishy. I could see one film not being ready, but all?"

No origin stuff, no Weapon X flashbacks - please!
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
01:27:13 PM
That stuff is so boring, the character is cool because he's mysterious.

Ideally, I'd just adapt the Madripoor storyline with a heavy Hong Kong underworld infulence

or

Frank Miller/Buscema Wolverine done as Wuxia fiction, very spare almost poetic, splashes of color like Sin City.

Either way they would really benefit from having a director that understands the Japanese/Eastern influences on the character and its cinema styles.

The probably will ruin it but it's such a shame because
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
01:29:42 PM
Jackman is loaded with charisma and although I'm not a huge fan of the narrative in The Fountain, that is the kind of game I'd like him to bring to a solo Wolverine movie!
I'll repeat myself for the 100th time
by AlwaysThere
Jul 20th, 2007
01:30:53 PM
-------X2 is the best of the trilogy. There's nothing wrong with it unless you feel that it begins to overstay it's welcome during the Alkali lake chapter of the movie. It's as perfect as a comic book movie can be. -------X3 is a more confident, enjoyable movie than X1. X3 challenges the characters, takes them in a different direction, something that your moronic haters can't wrap your mind around. It's a step backwards from X2, but the movie passes with flying colors considering how Singers departure left the franchise in shambles and then it became the lightning rod for seeking and receiving revenge against WB and Bryan Singer himself. But back to X3. It's the 3rd movie in the trilogy where each character has been through a lot. Based on where the story was going they had to make decisions based on their current predicament. Some of you are so knee deep in your own shit that you want everything to your liking. The characters should act the way I think they should, they take the path I want them to. Fuck the story I've been presented with. I'm the customer, consumer, whatever, so do it my way or Fuck off. I feel sad for those of you that live by and will die by that line of thinking. Would it have been nice if Singer finished what he started? Of fucking course. He had free reign on X2. His writers were working for him, he was able to work in everything that he wanted. For whatever reason you've heard, or you personal Jesus' here on AICN tell you, Singer left to do a Supes movie. There at Warner Bros. he found himself in the same situation as X2. Free reign, his writers, his plan, his movie. Sadly, he made a shitty Supes movie. Instead of reinventing the wheel, well not really, but trying something different, Singer and his crew made a gushfest of a movie for Dick Donner what turned out to be an allegory for surrogate fathers. He made a mistake in doing this. He'll have to live with that, Warner Bros. currently has to figure out cleaning up that shit stain, and that apologists for Supes Return will continue touring the internet in defense of that movie. -------X1 is for me the symmetrical equal to X3, which for all and intents and purposes succeeded in spite of Singers off camera issues, fans (this site included) dogging the film from the very beggings and the studios lack of understand or doubt about is been a success or profitable. I have trouble finding as much enjoyment in X1 as a used to before X2 came out in 2003 because of the contrast in quality. X2 outclasses X1 in every manner possible. The driving force behind the story, the script, the acting, the direction, the scope all better in X2. ---If I had to summarize and rank each movie, here's how I would do it. X2 - Col. Stryker vs. Mutants X3 - Logan and Jean' story X1 - Logan and Marie's (Rogue) story
Magneto movie.
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
01:40:58 PM
This probably won't work, but Magneto is an interesting character. Claremont wrote some stories that were penciled by John Bolton and included in the reprints of "Classic X-Men" (now reprinted as X-Men Vignettes). His Magneto story "A Fire in the Night" had a major impact on me as a kid.

http://glogan.free.fr/classicx men/12.jpg

I like X3 also.
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
01:54:49 PM
It finishes Logan's journey, which is what all of the X-Men movies are really about. The rest of it are subplots and you care about the characters, but the films are essentially about Logan.

I thought X-3 was about a broken man becoming whole again and finding his place. Unfortunately that is really not what most people want for Wolverine. If that is the case, then this prequel is probably for you.

Another thing I liked about X-3 is that was brave enough to do what the comic books can't - kill off Jean and Scott. Their story has impact for its tragedy - the characters continue to wander through the comic books like hollow men.

I felt like all of the characterizations in X-3 were completely true. Prof. X willingly sacrifices himself as the sole object of Jean's fury to save others. Magento's hatred pays him back. Mystique betrays Magneto after he breaks her spirit. Scott cannot function without Jean - a broken man. Jean is dead and what comes back is not Jean. Logan learns that he really loves Jean and not just lusts after her. Rogue chooses to be normal rather than live with her powers which distance her from everyone emotionally.

I want a Warlord movie
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 20th, 2007
01:59:41 PM
We need a loinclothed hero. Fuck this over-played mutant shit.
Wolverine is a pussy
by BringingSexyBack
Jul 20th, 2007
02:01:40 PM
He should have shred Stryker to gory bite-size pieces instead of chaining him to a wall. That was so stupid. And how come Jean couldn't save the Blackbird from INSIDE the plane but had to do it outside? How come she didn't put a forcefield around herself? The X movies were all stupid.
superninja!
by MetalMickey
Jul 20th, 2007
02:03:16 PM
Good show bringing up that old, iconic John Bolton "Magneto" short story from 1988! Fox'll likely water it down badly & go in another direction. Really, who's going to see this flick?
MetalMickey, well if you think about it what
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
02:22:10 PM
direction are they going to have Magneto go in? I like McKellan's performance, but he's campy.
BSB, but what about the children?
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
02:24:25 PM
Wolvie can't do Oprah if he hacks Stryker to bits.
fuck you! I like Courtney Love.
by s0nicdeathmonkey
Jul 20th, 2007
02:26:01 PM
She's smarter and more talented than you or anyone you know.
Jean went outside of the plane because she
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
02:33:41 PM
saw the future and knew she was going to die saving them. So instead of trying to alter it she accepts it and goes to her fate. This is hinted at early on when they're in the museum as her powers begin to get out of control and also when she sees the dam breaking in advance of it happening after her fight with Scott. She keeps saying that something bad is going to happen. Her powers are precognitive in addition to being a telepath and telekinetic.
I agree that I don't want to see anymore X-Men movies
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
02:35:24 PM
for awhile, but Hugh Jackman as Wolverine ain't a bad thing.

Halle Berry as Storm is, of course, still totally unforgiveable.

Look kids... two cents!
by yrimpossible
Jul 20th, 2007
03:22:13 PM
The X-Franchise is at it's most important crossroads. X1 was a good movie, but didn't flow well and had some terrible music. X2 was three steps away from a perfect X-movie, and X3 was good but had some missed oppurtunities. The Wolverine movie had better be darker than Neo's underpants, have more flowing blood than Carrie and look more like Taxi Driver than Minnie Driver. Wolverine is a deeply complex character that needs setting up before explaining who he is and where he came from. The tagline had better be "He's the best at what he does... and what he does isn't very nice" and be more about Logan hacking his way through gangs of thugs/ninjas/ne'erdowells than going toe to toe with other mutants. I'd like to see some WWI, some brawling in Canada and learning to find his inner chi in Madripoor, otherwise it'll be some hi-tech over blown Bayfest. And of course, an R-rating is a must. Magneto will hopefully be set during WWII and be about him trying to save a bumch of Jew refugees from the Nazis, ultimately failing then going all homo superior on their asses. X4, however, will be a different story. If we're carrying on with the Xavier Institute, the only characters required from previous films are Storm, Beast, Iceman and Rogue. Bring in a newbie in the form of Jubilee or Cannonball. Add Gambit as your Wolverine-alike outsider and you've got yrself a film. The big bad is Nathaniel Essex, later revealed to be Sinister, who has employed Gambit to infiltrate the X-Men and obtain genetic material. His primary targets are the remains of Jean Grey and Scott Summers, with whom Sinister plans to create the ultimate mutant (X-Man), but Gambit falls for Rogue and there's yr conflict. Of course, by the end we realise Sinister has also cloned Xavier, who is reunited with his mind... and can now walk. Ergo all the big actors from the previous films are out of the picture (except Stewart till the end). Halle Berry gets a bigger role and leads the team, rather than just pretends to. There! I just wrote X4. Give me a job FOX.
I'd rather see a Dazzler movie starring Gwen Stefani
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 20th, 2007
03:28:46 PM
the new trend of giving huge movies to inexperienced directors (or "out-of-left-field" ones in PC jargon) is so annoying. And after that everyone looks surprised and says "ooooohh the studio pressured him, it's soooo sad" while these players all knew it would turn out this way, especially when catastrophic scripts are involved.

You can't make a good ACTION MOVIE only with a cute casting; that's why Hulk-Catwoman-X men1-INSERT ANOTHER ONE OF THESE COUNTLESS SHIT MOVIES HER failed miserably...

I have seen TSOTSI. It's good. Not exceptional, but good. Wolvie could turn out decent, but I doubt it. And even if I liked Tsotsi, the whole movie SCREAMED "look at my fancy direction choices, I deserve my big break" and to be perfectly honest it was somehow detrimental to the movie. So we can't overlook the fact that MAYBE the guy is just another indie wonder not because of his talent, but because he's trying too fucking hard to sell his name on bigger projects, H'wood or not (Bryan Singer, anyone?).

Damn You Gavin Hood!
by McClane_Corleone
Jul 20th, 2007
03:52:51 PM
Damn You Michael Bay!
Just get rid of Halle Berry and give the role to
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
03:56:45 PM
Gina Torres with a mohawk. Her hubby can be Apoc. Bring in Mr. Sinister and the Marauders. This brings the theme full circle with mutants turning on their own.
This Is Major Slumming for Hood.
by ImFixingtoDie
Jul 20th, 2007
03:59:12 PM
Makes me sad. He has RENDITION coming, which could be quality. TSOTSI is a brilliant film, one of the more audacious artistic breakthroughs since MEAN STREETS. This would be like John Dalh doing PUNISHER 2. Give this to someone like DJ Caruso. Very sad. By the way, for those of you who seem to hate Singer's X-MEN, two of the best comic book movies ever, why are you here?
WOLVERINE.... The MUSICAL!!!!
by Roboteer
Jul 20th, 2007
04:02:23 PM
Who better than Hugh? Think about it. And Alwaysthere... yer right. X2 is the best comic adaptation ever. That movie is letter perfect and as good as SR was bad. Singer was brilliant juggling all the relationships, personalities, and powers. Shake it off, Bry.... I suppose this director is okay, as long as he doesn't feel compelled to expound on some 'message'.
You can even bring in Rachel Summers.
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
04:02:40 PM
She can be a Sinister clone. You find out that Stryker collected X-Men DNA from inflitrating the mansion in X2.
ImFixingtoDie...
by SpencerTrilby
Jul 20th, 2007
04:06:29 PM
never heard of "to each his own"???

Movies are like the last place on earth where relativism applies. Trying to deny it on a TB is like crashing a party by pissing on the keg: rude.

hair brain
by WolfmanNards
Jul 20th, 2007
04:08:54 PM
instead of having his hair point straight up, or sideways, they should have it lean slightly backwards. That would be cool.
X2 has some flaws. They were just not as pronounced
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
04:12:16 PM
as X1. Anything with Deathstrike was boring - a non-character. They should've had Mystique take out DS, now that would've been interesting. Stryker could've had a lot of mutants under his control and unleashed them on the X-Men (sort of his version of the anti-X-Men) and shown the team dynamics instead of splitting everyone off. Halle Berry continued to be totally useless and even more unexotic than her turn in X1. The Rogue/Bobby subplot - not needed.
You could even bring back Magneto and Mystique
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
04:18:50 PM
by having Sinister reactivate their X-genes and have Magneto turn on Sinister and have him end up becoming a teacher at Xavier's school.
DAMN YOU ROTHMAN!!!!!!!!!
by Doc_Strange
Jul 20th, 2007
05:28:49 PM
Everytime I pass FOX Studios in Century City I yell that out the window to no avail and maybe a few cunfused, 'WTF?' looks by passerbys. Fortunately, by setting the example I think more people will yell this out their windows around the time this film is released.
and having anything remotely comic book
by MrJJonz
Jul 20th, 2007
05:29:28 PM
orientated just is not going to happen when the studios can hire people to write their own version of a story without much grounding (or any) in that area. (Sin City is excused and always is from my comic to film hatred)
What happened to Len Wiseman?
by jangotangos
Jul 20th, 2007
05:51:09 PM
Wasn't he announced to direct this movie last month? http://www.superherohype.com/n ews/topnews.php?id=5901
Magneto > Wolverine
by snife
Jul 20th, 2007
06:33:49 PM
I think Magneto has much more potential than Wolverine if its handled in the right way - i'd like them to show a parallel of Magneto gaining his powers back and the origin story as that way you can still have Ian McKellen in it was is by far the best element of the X-men film franchise.
Hugh Jackman's just OK as Wolverine.
by Hesiod2k7
Jul 20th, 2007
07:19:00 PM
Russell Crowe would have kicked ass as Logan, though. You know I'm right.
Please.
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
07:34:34 PM
Jackman is the only reason the first movie is worth watching.
Just couldn't imagin Crowe with the hair
by MrJJonz
Jul 20th, 2007
07:37:00 PM
or the acting that kind of tough
I could picture Crowe as Logan.
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
07:42:20 PM
Jackman is more a Batman, Superman, Captain America type. Or Jackman as Carter Hall/Hawkman would be awesome. Or Hal Jordan. He could've been a good Cyke. But he still did an excellent job as Logan. The filmmakers just didn't trust the character and to be fair Marvel has overly romanticised him to the point he is not the same guy anymore so it's not like there is no precident.
Although I thought Marsden did a pretty good job
by superninja
Jul 20th, 2007
07:43:51 PM
as capturing the Cyke I remember from the comics. It's just that he looks like a boy next to Jackman but then who doesn't?
I really can't do the Crowe - Logan thang
by MrJJonz
Jul 20th, 2007
07:45:34 PM
Can totally do Jackman as Wayne / BAtman - I think would be great.

And you are right about the romantic thing. Even I have dreams about him that way and normally they are about Audrey Tatou

It better be a Hard-R or this film will be the suck.
by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz
Jul 20th, 2007
07:57:31 PM
Seriously. No pansy ass Wolverine film need apply. The rumor about the script being weak has me real nervous. I am really nervous they are going to make a goddamn movie for kids.

They already fucked up Ghost Rider which should have been a Hard-R type movie so I have little hope that Wolverine will be any different. I really hope I am wrong on this but my gut tells me it is going to be the suck.

PLEASE PLEASE let me be wrong.
I hate Quint's overuse of ellipses...
by troutpencil
Jul 20th, 2007
08:34:52 PM
...
Oh for Christs sake you are never gonna get a Hard R...
by RockLobster800
Jul 20th, 2007
08:36:13 PM
on a Wolverine flick! Too much moolah to be made.....trust me, while Singer delivered a glimpse of something that could have been the old Weapon X story the end result is going to lack backbone without a director who is willing to take it in the balls....will the Tsoti guy be able to deliver that?. But bear in mind inside hollywood he is a nobody and so his artistic integrity is going to be put on the line with this flick l....as a first timer in the big leagues they will trounce over the guys balls...heres hoping he stands up for himself......
They picked Hood because he'll be easily manipulated
by Fridge
Jul 20th, 2007
08:47:38 PM
Sure, his previous film may be the cat's fucking meow, but he's new to the bussiness. FOX picked him because he'll please fans (at least they didnt go with Ratner) but they also picked him because he'll be easy to manipulate. This is his first big film and I'm sure FOX will remind him of this constantly when they want something they think will be awesome, but will probably be stupid, in the movie.
A hard R?
by Alonzo Mosely
Jul 20th, 2007
08:57:23 PM
Are you people insane? In a world where an established R franchise like Die Hard has to be PG-13 to get a new chapter, what possibly makes you think Fox would release an R version of what they see as a kids comicbook movie?
TSOTSI 2 WOLVERINE AS ONCE WERE WARRIORS IS TO
by Stormwatcher
Jul 20th, 2007
09:14:46 PM
DIE ANOTHER DAY. Lee Tamahori directed the perfect Once Were Warriors in New Zealand and then gets his big Hollywood break and makes my pick for worse film of 2002, the franchise killer Die Another Day (thankfully ressurected once more by Martin Campbell) not to mention the crapfest XXX 2 State of the Union. Yeah. Give big studio movies to small directors and watch the crap fly!
xmen 3 koolaid
by batmanthehorse
Jul 20th, 2007
09:55:24 PM
holy shit, nobody should try to stick up for xmen 3. that was a just a big wacky piece of shit.
people talk about how bad X3 is.. and im sick of it
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 20th, 2007
10:02:20 PM
Now granted, its not the best movie in the world and I will point out its flaws as much as the next person. You know what pisses me off though? The fact that it is just widely understood to be terrible when SUPERMAN RETURNS and SPIDERMAN 3 get a free pass. Spiderman 3 was worse than X3 in practically every way, and Superman Returns was an absolute abomination. And yet because they're big name directors, nobody says anything about them.
Cotton you are obviously a TB virgin
by MrJJonz
Jul 20th, 2007
10:12:49 PM
cos Supes returns is hated and as is Spidey 3 on this TB. I watched both with my nephew and enjoyed both right up until I had to watch them again. I have watched X3 twice. 1st time it sucked. Oh it also did second time. No characters. Shit dialogue. All the extra mutants could fly or jump really big. Stuff like that held it back
no, that's not true.
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 20th, 2007
10:44:21 PM
Superman Returns doesn't have the same the same universal hatred that X3 does. And it really should, because the crime it committed is FAR worse than anything X3 did.
I appreciate those who fear Hood will sacrifice...
by rbatty024
Jul 20th, 2007
11:16:34 PM
his integrity with a Hollywood films, and share the same fears, but ultimately this news makes me optimistic. A good director can lift the material to his level so long as he has some script control. Hell, look at Nolan's Batman. A quality semi-independent director who took a pop franchise and brought a new artistic sensibility to it. Let's just hope Fox realizes this movie will make money no matter what and decides to stay out of Hood's way.
To those who can't stop hating on SR, X3, etc.
by Forestal
Jul 21st, 2007
02:17:27 AM
Get the fuck over it. Wah wah wah. :(
Sure there are characters in X3. It's episodic
by superninja
Jul 21st, 2007
02:41:59 AM
so it relies on the other two films. The new characters are nothing to write home about although Kelsey Grammar's Beast is rather likeable. But I always was kind of down on the Morlocks anyway.
I havent read any of the talkbacks yet
by Phategod1
Jul 21st, 2007
03:08:04 AM
So excuse me if I seem off topic I'll read later today but I jist wanted to Say X-3 was utter shit. Complete and utter shit. Rothman Is the Hollywood antichrist.
Holy crap
by XAOS
Jul 21st, 2007
04:06:11 AM
Gavin Hood played the doomed, noble Russian colonel possessed by an evil alien hoo ha in an episode of Stargate
Interesting choice for a director...
by Tourist
Jul 21st, 2007
04:11:26 AM
But so was Matthew Vaugn for X Men 3. Expect Hack A. to step in when the director decides to make a movie that is not shit.
I actually think that everyone hating X3 years before..
by rbatty024
Jul 21st, 2007
07:11:57 AM
it came out helped that film. It lowered everyone's expectations to the point where a few people bought into it because it was an Uwe Boll film. After reading some positive reviews I too was hoping that The Rat was going to do the impossible but I was severely disappointed.
fuck his stupid origin story......
by wolvenom
Jul 21st, 2007
08:17:43 AM
I want to see fucking sabretooth (and not the shitty one we saw in x-men 1 but a really cool one)... and I want to see fuckin japan, or the war, or him fucking running around with gambit or something
DO THE FUCKING MAGNETO STORYLINE WITH WOLVIE!
by wolvenom
Jul 21st, 2007
08:21:23 AM
where magneto takes away his adamantium and wolverine is fucking shooting out bones from his hands and shit.
I believe that anyone who likes SR is defective.
by Cotton McKnight
Jul 21st, 2007
11:08:58 AM
You HAVE to be. How in the world could anyone like that movie? There are just so many things WRONG- it's literally comes across as something a gay man would have dreamed about right after watching Superman 2 for the first time. Oh wait...
It's true that the action in X3 is not staged as well
by superninja
Jul 21st, 2007
01:21:29 PM
in X2. The opening with Nightcrawler infiltrating the White House was bang up awesome! I still love watching that scene. Also the airplane save is well done.

By X3 you have enough invested in the characters that I still enjoyed it. The scene where Prof. X dies. Not all action needs to be staged as a setpiece, some of the action in X2 seemed a little too stagey. Like all of the fights with Deathstrike. Singer did this in X1 a lot. He also totally overdid it in SR.

ok ....good director.
by machman36
Jul 21st, 2007
02:01:39 PM
well it got two good points so far, a good director and hugh jackman.no origin story though please.a badass wolvie slicing and dicin'.japan storyline would be ok.
SR is Great. X3 is Shite
by Robots In Das Guys
Jul 21st, 2007
03:01:36 PM
You know it in your soul. Is Shia still fucking cats?
No origins. no ninjas. no madripoor or hong kong
by trombone
Jul 21st, 2007
11:44:12 PM
There is enough in the X1-X3 for 3 Wolverine movies: 1) Wolverine vs. Sabretooth: Wolverine, alone after the death of Jean (the only thing keeping him in the X-Men), in Canada tracking and hunting down a killer. 2) Wolverine tracking and hunting down Stryker to find out his past. 3) Wolverine lopping limbs off of Tom Rothman.
Robots
by trombone
Jul 21st, 2007
11:47:00 PM
Just saw SR and really liked it, with two exceptions: 1) seeing Supes in a bar (just not Supes), 2) how the hell did the Kryptonite have such a negative effect on him when Luthor beat his ass, but yet he can lift the Kryptonite Island into outer-space??? Better than any of the other Superman movies except 1
I guess I'm defective, because I liked Superman Returns
by Forestal
Jul 22nd, 2007
12:32:22 AM
.....
Killraven = cool.
by superninja
Jul 22nd, 2007
01:22:46 AM
Me likey.
It really ought to be a prequel.
by superninja
Jul 22nd, 2007
01:27:17 AM
While he is still struggling for control. He's pretty tame in the X-Men movies.
David Fincher is required to direct Wolverine
by xhorbius
Jul 22nd, 2007
10:13:45 AM
First rule of X3. Do not talk about X3 cause its sucked ass. Marvel spits out shiddie kiddie movies like spider-man 3. Marvel needs to roll out their movies like their MAX comic series or Ultimate line. Please put David Fincher to direct Punisher.
I find this encouraging. Indy film directors make
by CrichtonAstronut
Jul 23rd, 2007
10:25:03 AM
kick ass action movies. I'm sure Chris Nolan seemeed an odd choice for Batman, back when he was best know for Memento. And that turned out brilliant, plus we got The Prestigue.
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