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FIRST!
by secretcylon
Jul 15th, 2007
10:39:41 PM
First time being first.
Also
by secretcylon
Jul 15th, 2007
10:43:10 PM
A guy at Sci-Fi told me they were going to be doing these. He also said they've gotten rough cuts in for the new season and that it's awesome. He said hold onto your seats cuz it's total craziness. (He was being honest and not just saying it cuz he works at Sci-fi)
Jesus
by Defrost
Jul 15th, 2007
10:45:07 PM
Sci Fi seems to love those webisodes. Wasn't there a dispute between the producers and Sci Fi over money on these things though?
Enough already!
by plocock
Jul 15th, 2007
11:10:22 PM
I can see Battlestar Galactica turning into another Star Trek pretty quick... Cash grab!
As a subsitute for Caprica, it'll do...
by Paul T. Ryan
Jul 15th, 2007
11:13:20 PM
That is all.
Well, if they're intended scenes from RAZOR...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 15th, 2007
11:34:25 PM
... it sounds good to me. The New Caprica webisodes were definitely worthwhile and they helped set the stage for the beginning of Season 3. So, if the quality is the same, I say make it so. Err, I mean stand by FTL!
the movie isn't called 'Razor' but 'RAZR'
by newc0253
Jul 16th, 2007
03:14:30 AM
the early cylon models included a stylishly super-slim mobile phone.
So.......
by KennyB
Jul 16th, 2007
03:20:44 AM
When the hell do the webisodes hit the .....web?
Sounds pretty cool.
by raw_bean
Jul 16th, 2007
04:01:32 AM
I almost certainly won't be able to (legally) watch the webisodes in this country, as with 'The Resistance', but since they're going to be edited into Razor in kind of a reverse deleted scenes sort of manner, I'm happy to wait for the DVD.
Just In: Title changed again from 'RAZR' to 'RZR'
by tonagan
Jul 16th, 2007
07:01:32 AM
Budget cuts, you know.
More BSG. Quick!
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jul 16th, 2007
07:23:48 AM
Quick, I say!
Interesting
by NudeandAroused
Jul 16th, 2007
07:40:08 AM
I will give it a shot.
TOO SOON!!
by Pageiv
Jul 16th, 2007
07:46:31 AM
What about the shorts of Starbuck as a CoEd?
Razor DVD release
by SoupDragon
Jul 16th, 2007
07:56:32 AM
If they are releasing the razor episodes as a standalone then I wonder if they also plan to include them on the eventual season 4 dvd? They are officially part of season 4's 22 episodes, so it might be possible that if you buy the razor dvd in November then you'll be buying the same episodes again later on.
I'm waiting for BSG:Chocolate
by chrth
Jul 16th, 2007
08:22:30 AM
Better calling plans available.
Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh Teen Adama
by kabong
Jul 16th, 2007
10:18:21 AM
Kindergarten Galactica uh uh uh uh.
So, when's Galactica coming out on HD DVD?
by kyle051554
Jul 16th, 2007
11:39:35 AM
Hmm? I haven't bought any of the seasons yet because I want to watch it in eye-melting high-definition. NBC Universal better get off their collective asses and make this happen sooner rather than later.
Rumor Control! Let's Talk about FTL Jumping the Shark!
by uss cygnus
Jul 16th, 2007
11:39:56 AM
Everyone, anyone can be a Cylon with no continuity, logic or hints that they have always been Cylons+AATW=FTL Shark Jump.
You know Cygnus
by DarthJedi
Jul 16th, 2007
12:50:44 PM
The last episode with the big reveal came about as close to this series jumping the shark for me as it ever did. But I still have some faith left in the writers that it will all make sense by the end of the last season. True that last episode definitely made you go "WTF?", but there have been many many more that had you going "Hell yeah!". It hasn't jumped the shark yet, but that last episode was almost like them moving the ramp into position.
Anyway, the chief was well set-up as a Cylon.
by raw_bean
Jul 16th, 2007
01:49:26 PM
The others not so much, but I think it's an absolutely fantastic character move for Tigh. One of the best characters in the series, and just when he might have run out of interesting material, bam, the most single-minded character on the show finds he doesn't know a single damn thing about himself, except that he's going to do his duty no matter what. What a way to pull through in what has to be the lowest ebb of his lifetim of low ebbs.
Gepta
by RokurGepta
Jul 16th, 2007
02:17:47 PM
it's going to be called Galactica 2010 silly.
Teen Adama vs. "Fundamentally Different" facial
by NetProphet
Jul 16th, 2007
02:24:57 PM
scarring acne Cylons.

I'll watch the show out to see if they can overcome my initial reaction, but I agree an awful lot with what USS Cygnus says. Moore as much as acknowledged that the identity of the final five (at least the four revealed) were only determined relatively late in the game - in the midst of season three! Seems to me that they could have been anyone applying the "fundamentally different" concept as a sloppy solution to explain any prior inconsistencies. Putting aside Tori, who we practically knew nothing about, and maybe Anders, everything we were previously told about Cylons practically ruled out Tyrol and Tigh. Tigh's aging and service in the first Cylon War means nothing. Tyrol's known childhood (parents were priests) and fathering of a child, also non-factors. So instead of twelve Cylon models, we have seven of one kind and five of another (SPOILER ALERT: who apparently are remnants from a prior cycle of the human/Cylon conflict, and akin to Cylon gods. END SPOILER). Never mind the intermingled, random numbering scheme. Color me somewhat disappointed that such an important element of the show's overall mythology wasn't better thought out.

FTL jump in & out of atmosphere ep4: Best TV Ever!
by Stormwatcher
Jul 16th, 2007
02:45:14 PM
Man that moment just blew me away. Can't think of anything else except for maybe Locke kicking Patchy's ass as being as cool. BSG is damn fine product.
USS Cygnus"Everyone, anyone can be a Cylon"
by EdRyder
Jul 16th, 2007
02:54:25 PM
Sounds like the premise of the miniseries and the first season to me.So did they jump the shark right when the show launched?
"anyone can be a Cylon with no continuity"?
by newc0253
Jul 16th, 2007
04:49:23 PM
oh, come on. We all knew there were more of the Galactica crew waiting to be revealed as Cylons. How is Tyrol any different from Boomer? Both had memories of childhood. And both had kids with humans they were in love with. That's hardly a massive continuity breaker, on par with, say, Baltar turning out to be a hallucination that only Roslin can see, or the past three seasons being Adama's dream. As for Tigh, yeah the ageing thing is a surprise and i'm curious to see how the Final Five models fit into the overall scheme. But where was it written that those Five had to follow the same rules as the other human models. And, at the end of the day, isn't it kind of lazy to rely on "everything we were previously told about Cylons" as the basis for all future plot developments? Hey, here's a goofy thought: what if the Fifth Cylon is Galactica itself? And it talks to the crew and shares its thoughts and feelings, using exactly the same computer voice as Dr Theopolis in Buck Rogers and the 25th Century? Now that would be a real gamechanger! Or maybe it would just be kinda stupid.
What it needs is...
by Banditmania
Jul 16th, 2007
05:04:24 PM
some fopish cylons like Lucifer, with a morphed Jonathan Harris voice.
The Differences between Boomer/Athena and Tyrol
by NetProphet
Jul 17th, 2007
09:41:42 AM
Boomer was supposedly an orphan and one of the few survivors of a disaster (I think it was a mining accident or something as best as I can recall) that wiped out her family and entire outpost. Thus, no one could ever verify her early years. Also, when Athena had her baby, Hera, it was a previously unheard of event. Not only did the Cylons consciously obsess over it, Hera become the focus of Cylon and human visions alike. D'Anna, Baltar (with Six in his head) and Roslin all had visions/dreams involving Hera, indicating her importance to both races. (Note: since only one Cylon remains to be revealed, Baltar and Roslin can't both be Cylons, and neither may end up being one).

As for Tyrol, he has been in the service since eighteen, including several years under Bill Adama, and he has clearly aged over that time. While his memories of his parents could be a cover story, there is no disaster or other explanation that would account for a fully developed Tyrol popping up without someone noticing. And when Nicholas Tyrol was born, nobody had any visions about him, including the kamala extract doped up Roslin.

Anything devastating to continuity there? Nothing overwhelming, I guess. Making the Chief a Cylon is not like fitting a square peg into a round hole, but maybe more like an oval peg into that round hole. Combined with the Tigh revelation, however, the annoyance level for myself, and many others, on this issue clearly is magnified.

As I pointed out before, the real problem is that the significance of who is a Cylon has been rendered moot by the admission that they came up with the last four at the eleventh hour. And retrofitting characters into such roles after 3 years with the mere explanation that "they're different" feels like a cop out. There is nothing lazy about being consistent and sticking to what has been established as canon over the prior seasons. As it is, this fundamental difference thing has the feel of a mid-course change of direction that has left me and many others miffed.

question about aging, either cylon type
by Eltopo
Jul 17th, 2007
03:55:24 PM
i think any of the cylons can age - we will see that boomer had a past life - and aged. but the question is - are they always "renewed" at the age they died?
I'm a Cylon, he's a Cylon, she's a Cylon...
by SpyGuy
Jul 18th, 2007
01:04:22 PM
...we're all Cylons. Wouldn't you like to be a Cylon too?

And if BSG hasn't FTL Jumped the Shark as of the Season 3 finale, then here's looking forward to the Season 4 premiere in 2008. Perhaps Starbuck will sing us a cover of Jimi Hendrix's "You Got Me Floatin'" from inside her cockpit.

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