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FIRSTTTTTTT
by tnt23789
Jul 15th, 2007
06:38:33 AM
cant wait for this movie. sounds interesting
First??!
by Kragmose
Jul 15th, 2007
06:38:41 AM
If so, great succes
DAMN IT!!
by Kragmose
Jul 15th, 2007
06:39:21 AM
Thar must be a curse upon me.
sorry kragmose
by tnt23789
Jul 15th, 2007
06:40:13 AM
sorrry mate.
Now,
by Kragmose
Jul 15th, 2007
06:43:58 AM
Let's keep things civilzed, shall we? We benefit the most from peacefully discussing the facts and vaguely touching the rumors.
tnt23789...
by Kragmose
Jul 15th, 2007
06:44:49 AM
You are hereby forgiven.
First?
by KillianXX
Jul 15th, 2007
06:46:00 AM
thats my conspiracy lol
IT'S A LION!!!!
by TomBodet
Jul 15th, 2007
06:48:44 AM
either that or we're just looking at a re-hash of that '98 Duchovney flick 'Evolution'....
Geek Ritalin
by dr sauch
Jul 15th, 2007
06:52:58 AM
I wonder if the people Moriarity refers to (ITS GODZILLA! ITS VOLTRON! ITS T3H MOTHRA LOLZ!) actually read and internalise these type of AICN stories and actually relax. Sometimes I think they just see the title of the article and post whatever blows through their mind.
Moriarty
by mode_7
Jul 15th, 2007
06:53:29 AM
So you're calling a guy out for not giving you credit for something you regret doing in the first place? What an odd situation. I suppose I'd probably feel the same way.
"Me? I’m excited and intrigued, and..."
by newc0253
Jul 15th, 2007
06:54:59 AM
apparently more than a little pissed that you aren't getting the credit you deserve for breaking the story, heh.
Sort Of, Mode...
by TheRealMoriarty
Jul 15th, 2007
06:55:28 AM
I do feel bad that we pantsed JJ just before he was able to release the trailer, and if I'd known how much it was all going to be played as a secret, I would have done it differently.

But I did break the story, and especially when people love to say, "Oh, you never scoop anything anymore," it's important to credit us for the work we do. We broke this story, and it's turned into perhaps the biggest story in movie news for the last few weeks. I'd like it if people didn't just boost our work and take the credit for it.

Never Mind the Hype!!!
by pobrien31
Jul 15th, 2007
06:56:56 AM
I know most of us have watched the trailer frame by frame and picked out what is appearing on the 'net, but has anyone noticed the magical lampost??? Watch the trailer again! as they come running down the stairs and into the street and the mayhem, check the building opposite!!! There is an arched window, boarded up I think with some grafitti. No check the kerb as the guy moves to the left of the frame. There is a base of a lampost but no lampost!!! The camera then pans up the street and then eventually pans back. Hey Presto, the lampost appears!!! It eventually get bowled over by the Libert head!!! Why go to all that trouble??? Any thoughts? Regards, Howard Phillips
Can't wait to miss this
by Drunken Rage
Jul 15th, 2007
06:57:53 AM
That says it all, really.
Pobrien...
by TheRealMoriarty
Jul 15th, 2007
06:58:21 AM
... because the lamppost wasn't really there. It's CG, and when the head takes it out, you're looking at an effect. Maybe by pointing it out, though, you can make sure an animator fills it in during the first part of the shot so the continuity works.
OMG, I totally know what it is. I'm totally serial.
by andrewdoane
Jul 15th, 2007
06:58:37 AM
It's Manbearpig! I'm totally serial! Guys, come on, I'm totally serial! Manbearpig loves to destroy statues, especially ones of liberty. Nobody thinks I'm serial but I'm totally serial.
dr sauch
by Kragmose
Jul 15th, 2007
06:59:15 AM
Exactly. Too often silly opinions are set forth without actually reading the material. I soo hope people fully red this one, cause its wise words from Mori. People could learn a lot from this sum-up and we could avoid some annoying Voltron/Lion claims..
J.J. Abrams flashback storytelling fetish....
by Brother Desmond
Jul 15th, 2007
07:00:08 AM
If Moriarty is right about the video camera being played as the start of the movie, then I'm starting to wonder if Abrams only likes to tell stories this way. Alias many times, Mission Impossible, Lost flashbacks....the guy has a thing for storytelling in reverse.
Also
by pobrien31
Jul 15th, 2007
07:03:28 AM
What's with the white circle on the back of the guys shirt as he running away?? Regards, Tall chap for devil-worship
Missing lamppost
by mode_7
Jul 15th, 2007
07:06:21 AM
That's the problem with looking for clues in stuff like this, how do you seperate something significant from something completely accidental on the part of the CG guys\directer\Abrams\whoever.
andrewdoane
by Kragmose
Jul 15th, 2007
07:07:12 AM
Are you serial?? Serially?
And
by pobrien31
Jul 15th, 2007
07:08:00 AM
The letters on the back of the sign on the lampost as the Liberty head comes to a stop. Regards, Disapproval for which tell
No old ones... : (
by Mace Tofu
Jul 15th, 2007
07:10:20 AM
So it's an evil SLURM Type of monster that you drink too much of?
Hmm. So it IS the Blair Witch monster-mash?
by Zardoz
Jul 15th, 2007
07:10:59 AM
Still, could be very cool. I'm interested...
So what the hell was TheParastite.com?????
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
Jul 15th, 2007
07:11:06 AM
It said Cloverfield in the top corner, but linked to a tossing game site. Explain more!!!
It Was...
by TheRealMoriarty
Jul 15th, 2007
07:12:54 AM
... a hastily-put-together site owned by someone with no connection to the film. They took the fact that we reported the nickname "The Parasite," and they turned it into a site that they knew would get traffic so they could pimp that game site.
I wonder how many of those games
by mode_7
Jul 15th, 2007
07:17:50 AM
this movie's gonna sell. The owner of that site is one wiley bastard. You'd have to get up pretty early in the morning ect...
no old ones... how about Yonug Ones then...?
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
07:25:19 AM
imagine Vivian, Rick, Neil, and Mike rampaging through New York in an Omnibus driven by the never-aging Sir Cliff Richard....

...it plunges the soul into an abyss of madness beyond Cthulhu's wildest dreams...

Yonug... damn. Young Ones, I meants Young Ones...
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
07:27:01 AM
... damn typo right where it fucks up the whole post ...
Peter Jackson for JLA!
by UltimaRex
Jul 15th, 2007
07:28:27 AM
I hear ya Mori. I had a bit of overhype m'self when I saw the 1-18-08 trailer here on youtube. However, (and this is preemptive on my part I know) this doesn't apply to Peter Jackson for JLA! for: a) It hasn't happened yet *knocks wood* and: b) The only one hyping this is me. Sorry to segway a little but I really, really, REALLY want a Peter Jackson JLA and I know Hollywood talks to you guys. Peter Jackson for JLA!
RUMOR CONTROL! Let's talk about the body in the trunk..
by tonagan
Jul 15th, 2007
07:28:47 AM
It was there when I bought the car, I swear.
What is the fuss about?
by erkojock
Jul 15th, 2007
07:28:53 AM
Personally i thought the teaser was LAME!!!!!
So, 1-18-08...
by UltimaRex
Jul 15th, 2007
07:33:08 AM
Is it going to be called 18-1-08 here in blighty?
Disappointment
by Alientoast
Jul 15th, 2007
07:34:17 AM
Many people will be "let down" by the film regardless, purely because they are already projecting what they enjoy onto the film. This happens with virtually any teaser, and this is part of the reason teasers can work very effectively: They're like a carnival sideshow...they give you a glimpse of something amazing, something that can trigger the imagination, in an effort to get you to possibly plunk down that $5. We project our hopes onto that glimpse, and we give it a life that we ourselves create. When it doesn't match up to our expectations, we can either be pleasantly surprised or horribly turned off.
The movie's called "All Questions, No Answers"
by FilmCritic3000
Jul 15th, 2007
07:37:27 AM
Oh wait, that's the title for almost everything JJ Abrams does.
As long as we actually SEE the monster...
by Psyclops
Jul 15th, 2007
07:39:11 AM
..and not just people reacting to the devastation I'll be happy. The trailer certainly did it's job and I'm eager to see what this movie has to offer once it's released. I'm up for a good creature feature any day of the week!
Mori, you know my views. lol
by SteffanLongdon
Jul 15th, 2007
07:45:18 AM
AKA VAMP@AICN CHAT
Haha, Lost Season 4 Promo?...
by DanielKurland
Jul 15th, 2007
07:55:24 AM
I actually think I might have liked that idea.
I still think the monster is a GIANT SPIDER.
by JackPumpkinhead
Jul 15th, 2007
08:03:55 AM
Abrams is directing and he wrote that abomination of a "script" for Superman V.... which is the land of Jon Peters... who loves him some GIANT SPIDERS!
...some of us were not saying "it's Godzilla" ...
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
08:26:14 AM
...nor "It's Cthulhu", but were merely noting that the thematic "flavour" if you will, of the trailer is Kaiju... and that of the slusho.jp website is Lovecraftian...

...thus some of us feel that although it is a given that the film WON'T FEATURE GODZILLA NOR CTHULHU NOR ANY ESTABLISHED CHARACTER...

it still is likely to be informed by both the Godzilla films and the Cthulhu Mythos in a generic way...

This simple concept seems very difficult for some to grasp... so let me try to give another example...

Gorgo (1961) NOT GODZILLA!!! Different beast, different country, different raison detre, different GENDER! But still clearly INFORMED by Godzilla - Father of all Kaiju genre.

Likewise, consider Alien (1979) different time, different planet, no ocean, no New England decay, no Necronomicon, no mad arabs, nothing normally associated with HPL ... and yet long considered by genre scholars from Stephen King to S.T. Joshi as "Lovecraftian"

...so unless you know otherwise Mori - as in you know for a fact: 1. THAT THIS FILM DOES NOT FEATURE A GIANT MONSTER RAMPAGING THROUGH THE CITY, 2. THAT THIS FILM DOES NOT HAVE AN OVERIDING THEMATIC FEELING OF UNSPEAKABLE COSMIC EVIL AND IMPENDING DOOM, both of which seem to be self-evident in the trailer and websites, then please give those of us exploring these themes a break...

We do not belong in the same category as the guy who STILL insists that this ABSOLUTELY IS the Voltron movie in utter defiance of all logic, reason, or evidence to the contrary...

Ahh, so it was Kirk Montgomery that was lion...
by henrydalton
Jul 15th, 2007
08:26:34 AM
...see what I did there?
Moriarty!
by lost.rules
Jul 15th, 2007
08:35:48 AM
Let's not forget the clusterfuck situation with the Lost season finale. I'm surprised J.J. tells you guys anything.
Lets control the hype factor, guys!
by Underdogthe3rd
Jul 15th, 2007
08:51:26 AM
Remember? Rimbaldi (ALIAS) = turn out to be nothing really important. And it WAS. For four seasons, nothing less!!! Brazilians in a bunker at the last scene in season 2 (LOST)= never returned. Don't get me started: four toe statue, smoke monster, why Juliet fights like a pro, etc, etc... My point: He's great BUT JJ loves to put a great mystery and than... he: a) Forget. b) Give up. c) Never had the intention of solving it. So, thats my theory and advice. Nothing in that GREAT teaser will matter.
what a load of crap
by themidnighter23
Jul 15th, 2007
08:57:28 AM
I was really hoping to get more info about the film but all we got was a long winded whine about how harry was first. grow the fuck up
Underdog
by Zarles
Jul 15th, 2007
08:57:32 AM
Your 'theory and advice' sucks. Just because you haven't gotten your shiny red button pushed by the LOST people in the ways that you want them to isn't a reason to bitch about this. Alias only fell apart at the end because LOST started up.
ToddBoddy...
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
09:00:53 AM
...that is cheap shot...

but perhaps you should notice I use King as one extreme - and Joshi as another...

...also despite personal problems and misfortune, King does know *something* about horror genres ...read Danse Macabre for example.

ZetaTalk talks about Giant Monsters
by TheBloop
Jul 15th, 2007
09:04:35 AM
That they come from Planter X. Maybe it Ghidora, the tree headed monster. Please visit zetatalk.com for more info.
Whole film thru a camcorder???
by Binkysguy
Jul 15th, 2007
09:05:53 AM
Ugh...count me out, fellas. Blair Witch was irritating enough. This will be the same.
RELEASE DATE IS CRAP
by legendofnatman
Jul 15th, 2007
09:12:55 AM
Personally, I could hardly care about the story. It's a monster destroying New York, shot handheld. There's no twist on that core idea that can make me more interested in this premise. Yes, it was a very interesting trailer, but all this speculation is making me crazy. Why? It's a monster movie being released January 18, 2008? Did anyone forget about that little fact? It's the damn temporary title, after all. As of now, I have no faith in a monster movie the studio has decided to release along with the rest of degenerate waste that call January home.
you guys should be careful about not overcovering this
by mikey mike
Jul 15th, 2007
09:15:16 AM
you just keep posting news after pointless news that reveals nothing. it's going to get to a point where people will get fed up of all the hush hush bullshit and want to see something, and if they don't get that, then whatever interest and hype surrounding the movie will be gone. "Snakes on a Plane" had similar buzz it fizzled way before the movie came out. just be careful AICN
I helped the cause
by DeCypher44
Jul 15th, 2007
09:17:01 AM
So, I both emailed AND posted under that news column: "You guys need to remove any and all mention of "exclusive" regarding news of Cloverfeild. AICN.com broke it weeks ago and fans have been on top of it since then. Slusho.jp and 1-18-08.com are only two of MANY sites we have been visiting for clues for quite some time."
Internet Hype
by JaggedSac
Jul 15th, 2007
09:29:33 AM
As you guys should well know, the Internet hype accounts for a very small portion of the audience(Snakes On A Plane anyone?).
"Me Moriarty. Me Know everything."
by Charlie Murphy
Jul 15th, 2007
09:32:43 AM
that's all it got out of those first three or four paragraphs. "Rumor control, bitches. Here's what we know about cloverfield, and you all have me to thank! Now, kneel, bitch and suck my cock."
Are you going to talk about 1-18-08?
by crackerfarmboy
Jul 15th, 2007
09:34:20 AM
Or are you just going to continue to verbal masturbate yourself?
Blair Monster Project?
by DontCallMePunchy
Jul 15th, 2007
09:35:33 AM
So it's basically the Blair Witch Project but with a monster... no thanks.
As far's not crediting sources, ummmmm...
by TomBodet
Jul 15th, 2007
09:36:37 AM
...this site's history is riddled w/ instances of being accussed of doing the same exact thing, at least by our Filmthreat pals back some years back. So I found this to be, ummmmm, disingenuous, to say the least here, Drew. C'mon. Kettle-pot, black, spotted, etc.
Seriously? People will be let down?
by magic_ninja
Jul 15th, 2007
09:37:35 AM
Anyone that thought this movie was going to be a new Godzilla movie or a fucking Voltron movie is a goddamn retard. Seriously.
Shakey cam point of view...
by Sappers Forward
Jul 15th, 2007
09:38:09 AM
I'm a big fan of movies like this...do we really know what it's about? No. But a lot of shit is being fucked up and that's always a good thing. However, like it Blair Witch, I hate the shakey cam point of view. That's a real turn off for me. My $400 Sony handy cam has a great "Steady Shot" mode that virtually eliminates all the shakes. What the fuck is their excuse?
This thread sucks already.
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
09:52:23 AM
Fuck it. I liked the other one better.
Why is the trailer ONLY with TRANSFORMERS?
by OmniPresident
Jul 15th, 2007
09:55:52 AM
Any theories?
Slusho.jp
by Zath_ras
Jul 15th, 2007
09:56:48 AM
Slusho Happy! What the fuck?
I just saw the sun rise!
by lost.rules
Jul 15th, 2007
09:58:18 AM
You heard it here first. Make sure I get the credit when you all report it later.
omnipresident
by Charlie Murphy
Jul 15th, 2007
09:58:19 AM
probably so the most people possible would see it. and because the release date is so far off, i guess they don't want to over hype it.
Chrono Trigger!
by Liar.Liar
Jul 15th, 2007
09:59:04 AM
I like what some other person said in the other thread about the explosion being Lavos. Fuck yeah. Shooting his spikes into the air and blowing shit up. Epic movie.
and lost.rules...
by Charlie Murphy
Jul 15th, 2007
09:59:15 AM
you're funny. i like that.
They should do Transformers 2 with a hand held
by lost.rules
Jul 15th, 2007
10:04:54 AM
Maybe the action scenes will make more sense that way.
3 photos on official site.
by ValerieCherish
Jul 15th, 2007
10:07:20 AM
How long has the third one been there.
Fanboys, like myself, have only 2 schools of thought.
by lost.rules
Jul 15th, 2007
10:10:13 AM
HYPE MODE: Aw, man. That is going to be awesome! Can't wait for that to come out!

BITCH MODE: Aw, man. That sucked! I can't believe they screwed that up.

We are currently in HYPE MODE.

!!!!BREAKING NEWS!!!!
by infosys
Jul 15th, 2007
10:13:48 AM
I was first to post this movie will suck bad
David Carradine is the Gunslinger...
by captainCAPSLOCK
Jul 15th, 2007
10:45:32 AM
since you mentioned The Dark Tower.

You heard it here first.

CHECK THIS OUT
by MasterExploder
Jul 15th, 2007
10:48:24 AM
slushozoom.com
Staypuff Marshmallow Man's back and out for revenge
by aboriginal
Jul 15th, 2007
10:49:19 AM
Godzilla v. Marshmallow in NYC
Somebody get Mori a tissue
by gambit88
Jul 15th, 2007
10:49:40 AM
and call a Whaaaambulance.
Dark tower
by emeraldboy
Jul 15th, 2007
10:49:59 AM
that was actually mentioned in empire's star wars 30th anniversary coverage. it was all in a piece to do with Stephen King.
Now I know why it's playing ONLY with TRANSFORMERS
by OmniPresident
Jul 15th, 2007
10:50:12 AM
There both Paramount films
not only are there 3 pics...
by Holodigm
Jul 15th, 2007
10:51:03 AM
none of them is rotating any more
to the quote the wolf
by van_line
Jul 15th, 2007
10:52:06 AM
"Well, let's not start sucking each other's dick's quite yet." kinda ballsy to call others out when AICN swiped a lot of stuff and not credit it (to the original source)back in the day?
Probien's Pole
by Anschutz
Jul 15th, 2007
10:52:44 AM
There are two separate poles that you are comparing. At about 1:29 you can see both poles in the frame at once. The shorter one is in front of the square window, the taller light pole is to the right of it in front of the window with the arch over it and has a One Way sign on it that you see on the pole that gets bowled over by the head.
180108 is actually a teaser for Watchmen
by newc0253
Jul 15th, 2007
10:56:06 AM
chthuloid alien horror destroys new york? think about it.
What a waste of time...
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 15th, 2007
11:01:41 AM
...the hype around that mediocre trailer has inspired.
Remake of The Host?
by pjoreilly_
Jul 15th, 2007
11:01:54 AM
It seems possible, the monster was a parasite in the original....and the handheld camera would really work with this if it followed anywhere near the same story as the original
Naw, I recant my previous theories, I'm now sure...
by The Dum Guy
Jul 15th, 2007
11:03:42 AM
That this is the Dark Tower, and the fact everyone from King to Abrams denying that it is, proves that it is...

Well, seriously, I'm just wondering two things now: 1. What the hell is the monster supposed to be (I know this is the one thing everyone wants to know). 2. What kind of half-assed monster leaves survivors to clean up? Honestly, now we know this aint no Armeggedon type situation, b/c there are survivors.
MYSPACE
by OmniPresident
Jul 15th, 2007
11:07:31 AM
This is not my MYSPACE but someones. http://www.myspace.com/he_arri ves_011808
Mori...in the words of Artie...WAAAAAAAAAH
by guyincognito27
Jul 15th, 2007
11:09:54 AM
Seriously though...Mori get over yourself. So WHAT if you reported this stuff? WHo cares? You were one of many cogs in the machine orchestrated by the Paramount marketing department to get the ball rolling on this 1-18-08 stuff. Do you think you deserve the Pulitzer for reporting this? You were just a tool for the studio to get the word out to the masses...you really didnt REPORT anything other than the fact that you seem to want the world to know that you knew about 1-18-08 before the rest of the world. Get over yourself. BTW-we watched your masters of horror episode "Pro Life" we thought it was hilarious (thats not a good thing)
DumGuy
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
11:12:04 AM
the only thing I find disconcerting about your theory is there is no 19 reference, no Ka reference, and if this is one of the things from todash space, the great old ones (not c'thonic, but those that did themselves in before the world moved on) have REALLY fucked up with a couple doors. At least it wasnt the Dixie Pig going up....
MYSPACE 2
by OmniPresident
Jul 15th, 2007
11:17:31 AM
www.myspace.com/1000693995
Anschutz, Compare the time
by pobrien31
Jul 15th, 2007
11:18:07 AM
Anschutz, Compare the time frames at 1:19 and 1:29 - no pole, pole!!! I couldn't really care less, but in this day and age you'd think they would be a tad better at this sort of thing by now!!! Regards, Overshadow Flip Thrill Cap
Okay....what we know
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
11:21:35 AM
Anyone want to start with the facts as we know them, and as Mori has laid them out. Lets get investigating...AGAIN!
Who cares - I want Trek rumors!!!!!
by picardsucks
Jul 15th, 2007
11:21:56 AM
Get Shatner in the movie and who is playing young Captain Kirk??
Yeah people talked about it
by jimmy_009
Jul 15th, 2007
11:24:48 AM
because they are predictable dumb asses. They had to resort to gimmicks because, let's face it, the trailer sucked and wouldn't have gotten anyone excited otherwise.
Is it true about someone finding a camera in rubble?
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
11:26:06 AM
Because that's the first time I read that. Which means it's news. And cool news at that. So that would be a definite nod to Blair Witch, and no one could ever deny that. OK, what if it's a giant witch?
So what if Mori wants a little credit?
by DarthTarter
Jul 15th, 2007
11:29:00 AM
Say you are at work, whatever it may be you do, and you bust your ass all day long. Then at the end of the day a guy who has done *nothing* jumps in front of you when the boss shows up and takes credit for all your work. Everyone would be fucking pissed and you know it. This cockhair claimed that HE was the exclusive source, that is what made it wrong and why it irked Mori so much. I can dig that.
I'm sure this has been mentioned...
by rogmel
Jul 15th, 2007
11:29:22 AM
but is it possible that "1-18-08" is the title, and not the release date?
Rumor control, these are the facts
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
11:31:39 AM
From Mori: Its an original property. not C'thulu, not Voltron..nothing we've "seen", except perhaps thematically. We know from the trailer: -Rob is moving to japan. -the line "I saw it, its alive, its HUGE!" is important. -Folk wear slusho t-shirts. -the monster moans/roars, also indicated to be of import. -the statue of liberty or a reasonable mock there of has been tossed/hit into the street, hitting the 401 broadway site. from the Pics: -The are not the same girl. -Dude feeding rob a drink wears a slusho shirt. -the yellow girl is freaky -its not the devil, its hair and light. -the blast light is far to bright to see SHIT. From Slusho.jp: -The history section is important, and adds a kaiju/lovecraftian flavor. -The duck is flying in a rainbow balloon. -the horse thinks of a blue oven mit, the fish of swiss cheese. -most of the site will be updated -there are 4 full cups at the bottom, 13 empty ones. -the japanese at the bottom is a variation on the slogan "you can't drink just 6" -otherwise, not much more so far. Hit me if I missed anything.
K, guys: J.J. Abrams is not running Lost
by Eaglet1138
Jul 15th, 2007
11:33:23 AM
I'm seeing people in here attacking J.J. for what they see as problems with the series 'Lost,' which he co-created. But let's be clear.

J.J. Abrams is way too busy with other projects (M:I-III, Star Trek, Cloverfield, What About Brian, Six Degrees, The Office) to have more than a passing interest in Lost at this point.

He directed and wrote the pilot, and yes, he and Damon Lindelof CREATED the show. They set up the concept of the monster, and the mystery of the Island, and who the people on the Island are, and set the series into motion.

But anything that has happened since then can ONLY be credited to (and against) the one-two punch of Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. They are the ones running the show at this point. If you have a problem with the guys in the bunker at the end of season 2 (which, they will be coming back, just wait), you have to blame Darlton for it. If you thought the third season finale was brilliant, it's because of Darlton.

Again. J.J. Abrams CO-CREATED 'Lost,' but he is not involved in the day-to-day decision making on the show at this point, because he is working on other projects.

Todd Boddy, Stephen King is, as of late, a pop whore
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
11:38:45 AM
Read his column for EW (I know it's the only reason I even glance at that drivelesque magazine). The guy is entertaining and he immerses himself in all things Americana. Which is what made him such a big name in the literary (that's right, literary) field. And he knows Horror, that's for sure. Which, last time I checked, is a genre. Right now it seems he's more interested in boasting about all of his apparent free time that he uses to watch TV, listen to music, and read books. Although, I suspect that Stephen King has been a huge fan of pop culture for some time (he just now has a regular gig where he can get his ya-yas out). I really don't see anything wrong with Stephen King telling people what he likes, I just wish he'd bring it around to what made him famous in the first place and focus on some Horror stuff. Maybe for Halloween, who knows.
oh not again
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
11:38:50 AM
MRX67...do we need to repost from the other thread? you've already admitted that theres more than ample theory, rather than fact in your supposition, so you can't say you've only reported based on fact...and Voltron has been severly debunked (although, I'm still looking forward to THAT when it hits)
This thing will never live up to the hype its caused...
by sith-vol
Jul 15th, 2007
11:39:42 AM
and while you can blame all the bloggers, talkbackers and internet webmasters for all the build up over that vague-assed trailer, the blame for getting the ball rolling sits firmly on the shoulders of Abrams himself. He got exactly what he wanted; word of mouth and a fervor of excitement about doing exactly what he does on LOST, show absolutely nothing and then appear to be sooo clever.
This thing will be a turd. Why else release it in the dead of hollywood's graveyard? And don't give me the whole "he's breaking with the norm because he's a genius bullshit either."
Abrams has made a career out of giving cryptic prmises and then standing back when his final product doesn't deliver and saying; "Well, you guys let your imaginations run wild and if you'd have only thought about the clues I gave you, you would have seen it was a pile off shit....not my fault."
This thing will be crap...and somehow, we talkbackers will be to blame for that as our imaginations have "run wild" again.
And before this post runs to mammoth proportions I wills close by saying that if I were Abrams, I would have kept the Ethan Haas site linked to my movie, because the game Alpha Omega sounds ten times as good as anything he could come up with. Oh...and he is going to put the last nail in the Star Trek franchise too.
Oh and another thing....
by sith-vol
Jul 15th, 2007
11:45:22 AM
viral advertising is ok to a point, like what they are doing with The Dark Knight, but this stuff reeks of self-absorbed pretentious bullshit to me.
a lack
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
11:46:03 AM
of evidence, or silence from the suspect does not indicate guilt and/or complicity. Come on man, I thought you were a detective.
If it were the Apocalypse there wouldn't be a cleanup
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
11:46:40 AM
Just constant chaos and panic. So I think we can rule out a rapture centric film. Or not. It is, after all, fiction. So I guess the film makers can do what they want (as long as they come in under budget).
It's not Voltron retards
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
11:48:46 AM
Voltron won't come out until after the studio execs can see how Speed Racer does at the box office. I bet if Speed Racer fails that we'll never even see a Voltron movie. Bring on Thundercats!
IMDB
by CrazySlasher
Jul 15th, 2007
11:53:10 AM
There's someone over at IMDB who said the same thing about the camera being picked up during the clean up. He also has a lot more to say about it than AICN.
The movies name is Bad Robot????
by johnny rocket7
Jul 15th, 2007
11:54:48 AM
This is what I heard behind me from Mr. and Mrs Middle America when I saw the trailer in the theater. Not naming it got great buzz on line but I was left to wonder how many people (who have no idea who JJ Abrams is) are now walking around thinking a movie called Bad Robot is coming out in January...
In the works yeah, but in production, no
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
11:57:31 AM
Unless you count rewrites on drafts. I'm just saying Speed Racer will be seen first and if that tanks (which I'm betting it will, stupid gambling addiction) Voltron will be put on the back burner's back burner. And there's no way in hell they could do a Voltron movie for $30 million. And there's no way they wouldn't announce that as a future tentpole release at Paramount.

Why do homework when there's logic?

themidnighter23
by jfp2007
Jul 15th, 2007
11:59:18 AM
No, you grow the fuck up.
MRX67
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:02:24 PM
No can do on showing you a site with any info on voltron, sorry...your welcome to your opinions, and your beliefs, (and I think we can both agree...voltron may kick a great deal of posterior)..but stating the suppositions based on the Slusho.jp website, and a lack of any other information doesn't make this a lock that it's voltron. The Dark Tower was in development hell as early as 87 (or there abouts, read about it as listed in a licencing list in an ANCIENT Starlog magazine), and sat in tristars dev hell for years until now, but that didn't make things with similar thematics concurrently ABOUT the dark tower.
But, I'll
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:05:16 PM
drop the subject for now, and deal with your insistance...however, we need to get together in person (or telepresent) after the release of one OR the other and have a laugh about this.
and a beer.
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:07:15 PM
sound like a plan?
mmmm
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:08:06 PM
crow....tasty.
MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:08:52 PM
Please do this thread a favor and pot your Voltron theories in their entirety here, so people here don't have to go through 2000+ posts to find them. Also...what happens when this comes out and it isn't Voltron? Are we going to have to put you on suicide watch? And at what point will you admit it isn't? When you actually see the movie and it isn't Voltron, will you admit it isn't Voltron or will you think JJ is still just fucking with everyone and shot an entire fake movie just to throw everyone off the scent of his actual Voltron project?
It took $150 million for Transformers
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
12:09:59 PM
So it will take at least that much for Voltron, let's do the math: 150/30=5. Last time I checked anyways. So, is there a precedent for a producer/director/anybody getting an increase to the budget of a film? Of course. But a five fold increase? I seriously doubt it. Besides, if it were Voltron the budget would never, ever, have been projected so low.

MRX67, you sir are sailing on a boat with a hull made of swiss cheese. Enjoy the bottom of the ocean.

Alright, Alright, General
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:11:48 PM
he's welcome to his opinions, just as are we all..again, my only issue is stateing them as established fact. I'll admit, it can skew the thread a bit, but lets try and face it with a bit more stoicism.
SoylentMean
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:13:12 PM
You just played right into MRX67's hands with your math, sir. You see, the movie DOES cost 150 million...it's 30 million PER LION. We heard 30 million. There are five lions in Voltron. 30 x 5 is 150. Transformers cost 150 million. This trailer played in front of Transformers...and ONLY Transformers. Thus, this is Voltron.
The truth about all this is...
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:13:16 PM
that there was no "Cloverfield" film. This has all been an elaborate market research study to test the effectiveness of viral marketing, and to see how quickly fanboys can twist things completely out of shape. Now The Suits know.

As a reward, however, they've decided to go ahead and make the movie, because you've all been so eager and energetic.

WE know
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:15:05 PM
that Voltron has by and large been debunked (if only by mori, and lack of evidence.)....and we know that half of the budgette is devoted towards speacial effects (via new report), but thats an ASS TON of modeling, texturing, animation, and integration for a REALLY low budgette.....the only reason I can state authority on this is that I do 3d modeling, and animation (to some extent), and nominally a production company doing CGI work on the scale and grandeur of voltron would have quite a bit more on the table in the way of funds for ALL that work....its never as easy as it seems.
GreenGeezer
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:16:57 PM
MRX67 CANNOT be serious at this point. He just CAN'T. If he is...man, I don't even know. But he can't be, so I refuse to treat that like a serious opinion/theory. He has to be keeping this going as a joke. I just can't wrap my brain around any other explanation. Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but at what point do you just have to throw your hands up? I mean, I'm entitled to my opinion, but what if my opinion is that today is Thursday and this is 2002? Sometimes opinions are just wrong...and absurd.
MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:19:09 PM
Man, there is NO WAY you're serious. I just can't believe it. Yesterday you had me going, but today I'm just not buying it. But keep going, because I admire the fact that you're sticking to your guns for the sake of comedy. But I'm onto you, brutha. No way are you serious.
faith breeds form
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:19:30 PM
until proven otherwise, and I have thrown my hands up at this point, determined to laugh (sometimes to tears, and not good tears) on the theories and machinations of the faithfull...as long as that faith and belief don't lead to a bombbelt, folk believe in far stranger things.
RUMER CONTROL! Let's talk about Bruce's parenting style
by BannedOnTheRun
Jul 15th, 2007
12:22:58 PM
Or not.
possibly, possibly not
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:24:56 PM
but its the figure we have to go off of, hell...if they're paying attention to these threads at all, I'm sure the budgette is going up like a bloody gas pump ticker. They need to be carefull if thats the case though...this shit could (and I thinkin some cases has) lead to backlash if taken to far. Lets get hunting for the clues. Come on gang, we got a mystery to solve. (ps: I'd really love to do it before an update, or some other site gets it)
GreenGeezer
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:27:00 PM
That they do. But MRX67 doesn't really believe it's Voltron at this point. Honestly, he's obviously a movie fan or he wouldn't frequent this site...I think that's a pretty safe assumption. So he has to know that at this point, if this IS a Voltron movie and actually costs much more than 30 million, no studio exec would EVER deny that a movie that expensive was in the works. Studio execs don't play around with that kind of money and go..."You know, we COULD advertise the hell out of this and let people know our 150 million Voltron movie is coming out in 6 months, but maybe we'll get better returns if we just deny that we have anything to do with Voltron until the day it actually comes out? People like surprises, right?" No studio exec thinks like that where 150 million is concerned. That's a lotta dimp. When Voltron is actually coming, they will start to hype the shit out of it. Period. MRX67 is kidding.
Its a fair point
by GreenGeezer
Jul 15th, 2007
12:30:07 PM
I'm taking it as flat earth theory at this point (no offence MRX).
Slusho website is up..
by torpor_haze
Jul 15th, 2007
12:33:43 PM
http://www.slusho.jp/
About the budget...
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:35:24 PM
I posted this about 1500 posts ago on the other thread, so here it is again...and anyone on this site who works in the movie biz can back me up on this: If this movie is going to be shot entirely in the "home video" style of the trailer, then the equipment is probably just high-end mini-dv or affordable dv...something like the Canon XL1S (or whatever the current equivalent is...I'm a little out of the loop); the kind of equipment that a good, professional videographer would use to film weddings, etc. You could buy ten of those cameras for $100,000. It also has no big-name stars, no big-name writers, and no big-name director. Even if they are shooting everything on location and have to pay taxes, buy permits, etc., you could probably shoot all the live action footage for this movie, pay the cast and crew, etc., and advertise this movie for under 10 million. Because, let's face it: You don't need a 50 million dolar ad campaign for a movie that only costs 30 million, since it won't have as much trouble turning a profit as a big-bidget epic because it was SO CHEAP TO MAKE. Word of mouth can make this film VERY profitable if it is good. So that leaves 20 million for CGI and physical effects. You don't think that's a lot? Go ask Roger Corman or Lloyd Kaufmann how far they could stretch 20 million. Shit, ask BadMrWonka...he's about to shoot a feature for $200,000.
Not to mention the fact that
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
12:38:27 PM
JJ is a tv producer, so he knows how to stretch a dollar...as ALL tv producers do...
Remake
by Macca10
Jul 15th, 2007
12:41:20 PM
I'm still going with it being a remake of "The Host".
Blair Witch Toho Style? I'm officially bored.
by conspiracy
Jul 15th, 2007
12:47:07 PM
Yaaaawn, yet another generic monster movie, only fimed in a been there done that style. Don't know about you but I've had an assfull of smashed buildings, screaming bimbos, and CGI fireballs. The Lovecraft angle had me interested; a movie about the end of time and evil unleashed. I imagined a film about someone just trying to eek out thier lives to the last and filming the event, all the time knowing the inevitable fate that awaited. Damn it I wanted despair,NC-17 chaos, soul numbing horror, and an overriding darkness that would have given the most ardent satanist the creeps; has Hollywood finally dared brought the darkest of mans fears and dreams to film I wondered? Nope..if Mori is right is sounds like we're getting nothing better than some low budget, film school version of something the Toho Company did 53 years ago.
Not Godzilla, but
by Captain Atom
Jul 15th, 2007
12:51:22 PM
Almost everything leaked points to a new monster, but almost all the clues point to a Godzilla like kaiju. The fire/explosion (most non-japanese giant monsters have no blast attack), the whale talk at slusho (Gojira= gorilla whale, the frozen at tremendous depths at slusho, and all the Japan references in general. Heck, the original US poster for Godzilla, KotM displays "It's Alive" prominently. http://tinyurl.com/292rqo So it's a new monster, but Abrams is trying to point out how much it is like Godzilla, I guess.
BTW...FUCK VOLTRON...
by conspiracy
Jul 15th, 2007
12:55:19 PM
One giant robot movie is plenty, bring on Gatchaman/G-Force. Keyop, Tiny, Princess and the rest would put a world of hurt on the big screen an you geeks all know it.
MATTHEW BRODERICK KILLED GODZILLA!!
by Jackson Healy
Jul 15th, 2007
12:56:34 PM
So, how bad can Godzilla be?
It's not a giant witch, it's a giant bitch.
by JackPumpkinhead
Jul 15th, 2007
12:59:39 PM
And that's the true surprise - it's actually a political thriller about Hillary Clinton.
Fan Board for 01-18-08 Fans
by cloverfield2008
Jul 15th, 2007
01:00:16 PM
Fan Board for 01-18-08 Fans http://www.jjabrams.net
Blah blah blah.
by s00p3rm4n
Jul 15th, 2007
01:02:56 PM
I can't stand J.J. Abrams. But I certainly respect that he wants to use trailers as a means of drawing people to the movie theater without ruining every goddamn good scene in the flick.
mrx67
by rdsxfan8
Jul 15th, 2007
01:05:16 PM
hey do you work for the company that makes voltron toys or soemthing??? either that or you have a shit load of them at your house and your hopign so vehemently that this is a voltron movie so you can sit there on ebay or craigslist and get top $$ for first run voltron toys or something..... in the immortal words of the big lebowski "its over sir, the bums lost....." this IS NOT A VOLTRON MOVIE
If the sound it makes
by TheBlackKnight
Jul 15th, 2007
01:05:22 PM
is a clue, then perhaps it's the tone and reverberation? The first groan noise during "Woman" sounds almost like a whale (not that it is), but could be coming from the water. It at least seems like a sound felt through the transfer of solid (underground) or liquid (ocean) matter. The earthquake could be the ground opening up to let this thing out. If it was the impact from something landing, it seems to me like there would already be a fiery mass somewhere. Then again we don't know if that explosion was the first bit of destruction anyway.
Great Disney World analogy, Moriarty
by slone13
Jul 15th, 2007
01:08:12 PM
It's one of the major things that separates the Disney parks from the Six Flags and such. Totally immersing you into their world. And so effective at it.
NOT a remake of THE HOST
by The Inspector
Jul 15th, 2007
01:14:31 PM
THE HOST is still only in development with Gold Circle and Vertigo producing. Neither Paramount, Abrams or Bad Robot are involved with the (re)making of that film.
Morons gotta eat
by Hugh G Rekshun
Jul 15th, 2007
01:15:57 PM
Just look at the continuing level of stupidity of some of the posts here. Although the Voltron stuff is about as entertaining as you can get 'round these parts.
GeneralJackCosmo, you're off base.
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
01:16:18 PM
Just because they are shooting in home video style doesn't mean they are using shit equipment. Case in point: Cloverfield recently was seen with the most expensive high-end HD camera available from a certain camera manufacturer.
TheBlackKnight, Manhattan is an island.
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
01:17:41 PM
It stands to reason, then, that the creature probably can swim. Duh.
The worst thing I've heard so far...
by Red Ned Lynch
Jul 15th, 2007
01:19:20 PM
...is Mori saying that all the footage is from ONE camera, found in the wreckage by a clean-up crew from later. Nothing else I've read to this point makes me fear more that this is just a novelty riff Abrams got the idea for while he was watching The Host, which let's face it, folks, is only HALF a good movie. Yeah, the first act or so was pretty great, but by the end it had been a spent force for more than thirty minutes. Now GreenGeezer or GJC can try to cheer me up with an idea that watching the tape makes the viewer understand that this was just the first time, and that "little whales" are the future, and maybe that kind of thing could bring it closer back to all right. Still, the most disturbing thing I've heard so far. (Although once again kind of Lovecraftian, though updated. About half the stories he wrote involved someone finding a dead guy's notes, diary or something).
It's Gorgo's mom. Obviously. Looking for baby.
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
01:19:27 PM
Roar.
Disneyland? hmmmmm
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
01:21:40 PM
...Mori at Disneyland, but not at Magic Kingdom at WDW, there was ride called Story Book Land...

...you would ride on boats through beautifully landscaped miniatures of places from Disney's animated features...

... the ride began by your boat going into the huge slavering jaws of Monstro the whale... hmmmmm

I was just on IMDB
by emeraldboy
Jul 15th, 2007
01:23:16 PM
The real name of this movie is called the Parasite and has nothing to do with another film parasite which is currently filming. as you will see. A giant monster movie currently referred to as Cloverfield, revolving around a group of people using a home video camera to record their experience of an attack from the monster, "The Parasite" (not to be confused with the film project The Parasyte) in New York City.
Bronx Cheer
by Red Ned Lynch
Jul 15th, 2007
01:24:04 PM
If you're going to go for bad prehistoric monster please go all the way bad. Reptilicus! Man Gorgo was a Saturday afternoon staple back in the day, though. I must have seen it thirty times between the ages about five and twelve.
Bronx
by TheBlackKnight
Jul 15th, 2007
01:25:42 PM
I'm just talking about the origin of where it came from. We don't come from the water, but we can swim. Did it crawl out of a hole in Manhattan? It sure as hell didn't sneak up on Manhattan from somewhere else on land to wait and make it's first noise there. OR it swam in from the sea and made first land contact in Manhattan. Or it's totally magical and appeared out of the sky. I'm just trying to get speculation going. This talkback has become "It's not Voltron!"
Bronx Cheer, it can't swim it's just fuckin' huge
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
01:26:13 PM
And it has a deep fear of water, which is why it's roaring. My vote is it has rabies (hydrophobia) and is wigging out that it't on an island. Can't wait to see this, whatever it is.
OR
by TheBlackKnight
Jul 15th, 2007
01:28:08 PM
Are we just going to wait now?
I want Del Toro's At the Mountain of Madness
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
01:32:40 PM
Before I get a $30 million Lovecraft inspired tale. Speaking of, has anybody seen the newest Lovecraft film The Call of Cthullu?
It's.... It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man
by canvasseamonkey
Jul 15th, 2007
01:37:53 PM
or maybe robotic Richard Simmons
JJ Abrams has chosen HD-DVD, here's why...
by Johnno
Jul 15th, 2007
01:46:09 PM
So you can rewind your memory back to when Toshiba announced it despite the jauggernaut called Blu-Ray rising from the waters to raise all hell on the mainland when it unleashed its fury and might, and now you can now follow Toshiba's format's story to it's enivitable tragic and stupid end.
Moriarty...
by Transmetropolitan
Jul 15th, 2007
01:46:12 PM
You always sum everything up with such genius subtlety and rationality. This project...that trailer... is the first to peak my interest as strongly as Grindhouse. Awesome stuff. Sorry to hear some asshole was screwing with you Mori. We all knew you revealed the story. Fucking tools not giving credit where credit is due... such bullshit.
Bronx Cheer
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
01:49:19 PM
Didn't know that...where did that info come from out of curiosity? The kind of equipment I'm talking about has been used to shoot features before, btw, by people like Soderbergh. I wouldn't call it crap...it's not like the camcorder I bought at Best Buy or anything. Even if they are using more expensive equipment, you can shoot a beautiful-looking film for under 10 million (look at Bound and Memento...both cost less than 10 million). The point I was trying to make is that a lot of people are calling the 30 million dollar budget into question, and I think you could show A LOT of monster for that kind of money, given the "ant's-eye view" perspective that the movie seems to be using.
"giving credit where credit is due"
by Underdogthe3rd
Jul 15th, 2007
01:50:26 PM
If I receive a dollar everytime I read this at AICN talbacks... You guys have a real self steam problem.
Bronx Cheer
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
01:52:45 PM
Also, I realize that both films I sited were set-bound, so look at tv shows that shoot on location in NYC or lA...Sex & The City or Entourage, for example. I'm sure each episode of those shows didn't have a budget of more than 1 million. You could shoot a feature on location for under 10 million and still have a lot of that 30 mil left for sfx.
hahahah hardly
by rdsxfan8
Jul 15th, 2007
01:54:55 PM
I am more than man to admit my mistakes if it is in fact a voltron movie, but its pretty much been made obvious to everyone but you MRX67 that it isnt. your like a modern day version of the guy who thought the earth was flat even though 99.9% of the rest of the population knows it not to be true. but hey good luck to you and your grand thoughts and ideas. its a free world think what ya want, but dont say you werent warned when the backlash hits once it turns out not to be what you think and believe it to be.
I have to agree with Mori...
by jimmy rabbitte
Jul 15th, 2007
01:55:43 PM
How many times, in the past few years, have scores and scores of people complained that a new trailer has given away the whole movie? This trailer is a classic teaser trailer. It has plenty of set-up, but it does a very smart thing and has no image at all of whatever is attacking Manhattan.

At the very least, I'm looking forward to finding out something more about this film; and as it stands right now (based on the teaser) I'm looking forward to seeing it.

It's a great trailer. Hopefully it will be an entertaining movie.

ANTSYPANTSY
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
01:59:59 PM
I'm not sure who you're referring to, but do you really think that it's impossible for anyone on this board to have any idea about what it takes to make a movie...cost or otherwise? I used to work for an indie producer--Edward R. Pressman, to be specific--and I'm sure that I'm not alone.
Antsypantsy, you belligerent fuck
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
02:08:47 PM
I salute you, with malice.
ANTSYPANTSY
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:09:15 PM
So you're calling me a liar, then? What point would there be in that, seeing as how I don't claim to work for him anymore? And I worked in the office--in the development department--for two guys: Zach Schiff-Abrams and Alessandro Camon...I never claimed to be a filmmaker myself. Go ahead and look them up. Finally, I have no problem with people refuting bullshit statements, and on this site there have been PLENTY, but on your blog you say: "Talk of this movie was spreading before AICN said a single word about it." I am willing to give that statement the benefit of the doubt, but can you prove it? You should post a link or site a reference when you are going after someone else's bad journalism/media coverage, if for no other reason than to show that you are more professional than them.
Voltron Suicide Hotline (a 1-act play by BadMrWonka)
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
02:09:24 PM
for MRX67.

Voltron Suicide Hotline: "hello?"

fan: "um hello, I think the 1-18-08 movie is Voltron.

VSH: "you are aware that Voltron is a separate movie by a separate studio?"

fan: "well, yes, but I think that's all a ploy!"

VSH: "and you're aware that Voltron is a kid's toy? and that any movie made about Voltron would have massive tie-ins with toys/fast food/etc.? something not conducive to a scary movie shot all with hand-held camcorders? not to mention that fact that people who obviously know more than you do at this point, such as Moriarty from AICN, have stated clearly and emphatically that there is NO CONNECTION between this film and Voltron?"

fan: "well, I choose to ignore all of that."

VSH: "um...OK, well do you actually have ANY reason whatsoever to believe this is Voltron?"

fan: "the IMDB page for Voltron hasn't been updated recently."

VSH: (long pause) "what?"

fan: "they haven't updated the page in a while! not to mention, here are some other cold hard FACTS!! on the Slush.jp site, one of the animals is dreaming of cheese. cheese comes from France! and France is one of the places that Voltron is going to stop at, according to the script leaked at mexicanscriptreviews.com!!"

VSH: "wait, cheese? what are you talking ab-

fan: "and, and, there's a horse! which is like a donkey! and donkeys are from mexico, and Voltron stops in mexico in the script!"

VSH: "you're kidding, right? you have to be joking..."

fan: "no, I'm totally serious."

VSH: "OK, I think we have all the information we need. and I am authorized at this time to tell you that you can go ahead and kill yourself. thank you for calling the Voltron Suicide Hotline."

...on a previous TB's i linked to Calls for Cthulhu...
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
02:10:27 PM
... videos on YouTube.

... the videos have an 800 number to call in your questions (this is part of joke... it says previously recorded don't call)

... the number is 1-800-SOL-EATR...

... if anyone actually calls that...

... it's PORN!!!!

... a sex-line...

ha ha ha ha ha ha tentacle rape! ha ha ha ha

bad wonka
by rdsxfan8
Jul 15th, 2007
02:15:00 PM
ya know that shit had me rolling on the floor over here. and you should turn it into a movie. the best part about it is that once he does off himself there wouldnt be any chance of a sequel.... hahahahah unless of course we get the undead version of mrx67 which could be jsut as bad if not worse than the live version.
Damn you's Kirk Montgomery
by supersize
Jul 15th, 2007
02:15:50 PM
Your on my shit list pal
Not enough mystery
by Shaner Jedi
Jul 15th, 2007
02:19:41 PM
in much of anything anymore. You have to do something that stands out in order to get attention and a trailer that raises more questions than it answers is precisely what was needed. Mori's comment about Disneyland and the buildup of anticipation got me thinking. Today, so much of marketing is about getting out in front of everyone else. In the process, we've taken away alot of the mystery behind films and other industries with "beat them over the head" marketing. Look at new cars. You can see the new models in Car and Driver 2 years before they're on sale. It used to be the dealers would have a "reveal" of new models. They'd cover the car with a sheet and people would come into the business just to see the unveiling. They'd create anticipation through mystery. Today we get so much upfront that by the time we get the real deal, we're jaded or spoiled on it. JJ is doing the right thing. Marketing folks from many industries should do this more often. Doesn't happen enough today.
On a marketing note
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
02:25:20 PM
They should bring back the real Jell-O pudding pops, not the pseudo-Jell-O pudding pops that have recently surfaced in the frozen food section of my local grocery store. They can do several marketing tricks, like having Bill Cosby whispering in V.O. that he remembers the good ol' days when a frozen treat was a frozen treat. Then we can get some random, multi-colored sweater adds for a non-existent Gap-like store, with the slogan "It sure seems cold". Then Mr. T can show up, for what appears to be no reason, until it's revealed that he'll play Cosby's sidekick in the upcoming thriller Brother's Got A Bran New Sweater (brought to you by the REAL Jell-O pudding pops).
SoylentMean
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:27:29 PM
On a side-note...do you know that Mr. T has a fucking reality show? It's some kind of self-help show. I shit you not, the slogan in the print ads is "Because in every city, there's fools to pity". I'm not making this shit up.
MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:29:53 PM
You have officially lost your mind.
mrx67
by rdsxfan8
Jul 15th, 2007
02:32:25 PM
stay where you are, we're sending the men in the white coats with the butterfly nets right over.
rdsxfan8
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:34:10 PM
You know he's totally fucking around, right? I mean, he HAS to be...
Good lord. So much hype and drama.
by DarthCorleone
Jul 15th, 2007
02:38:49 PM
Who cares? I'm intrigued by the hook, but I don't think it's worth all this hubbub. And I am wary of a monster movie shot from a handheld perspective. How much versatility is there going to be in that? Explosion. Camera jerks toward it. Building falls. Camera jerks toward it. Monster roars. Camera jerks toward it. I like Blair Witch a lot, but I think it works because it's quiet. It has a creeping, just offscreen dread. Maybe I'm underestimating the verisimilitude of this technique in something with more chaos. We'll see.
Couldn't care less.
by Deathpool
Jul 15th, 2007
02:39:35 PM
I might be in the minority, but I don't know, I'm just not feeling this whatsoever. Hope it turns out well though.
Ok, MRX67...
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:41:53 PM
How about this for a fact: I have the telephone number for The Mark Gordon Company. I'm not about to post it here, but I will e-mail it to you. Do you have a myspace account? If so, shoot me a message at www.myspace.com/generaljackcos mo - NO SPACES - and I will send you the number. Call them and tell them you are looking to license Voltron for something...make something up, detective...and see if they still have the rights to the movie. If you don't have a myspace, you can shoot me an e-mail at my shitty, under-construction web-site @ www.cosmo-verse.com
So the whole is told though Hand camera
by Phategod1
Jul 15th, 2007
02:44:21 PM
Color me unimpressed Sounds like something that Kid from On the Lot would do for free. Sorry but I'm not Interested in a war of worlds movie told Blair Witch style. Peace.
The question is...
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:45:21 PM
...when the folks at MGC say they still have the rights, are you going to believe them, or will you just think they are part of the conspiracy, too?
I mean, COME ON...
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:49:33 PM
"Look at the beginning of the trailer....the attack came from the sky right?" I'm not so sure that it DID, but even if it did...the ONLY attack that could possbly come from the sky is Voltron-related? Even though none of the people associated with this film are associated with any of the people involved in the Voltron movie in any way? Dude, if you ARE serious, then you are falling victim to the very common phenomenon of seeing connections where you want to see connections...and listen, I WANT to see a good Voltron movie...but this is not that movie.
At this point, I want it to be Voltron.
by lost.rules
Jul 15th, 2007
02:51:02 PM
Just so that guy will STFU!
lost.rules
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:52:55 PM
Do you honestly think that if it IS Voltron he will EVER stop taling about it?
MRX67
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
02:53:25 PM
I hope you enjoyed my short play.

you are claiming that 2 separate movies are, somehow, the same movie.

don't you think that a claim as, um...unusual as that means that YOU Should be providing the facts? if I claim that my pet bunny can talk, I can't say, "well, prove it can't! show me some facts!" that is what you're doing, brother. unusual claims, that go against the common accepted norms, requires specific proof.

you are speculating. but the problem is, you treat your suppositions and speculations as fact, and when they are discounted, you ignore it. then when someone gives you ample evidence against your theories, you ignore that as well. then you take a break for a few hours, and pop right back in, going, "where are the facts?"

I still think it's 50/50 whether you're joking or not, but hell, I'm on a break from work, so I'll give this a shot:

here's how it will work. I'm going to write down a few things that I believe are evidence that the Voltron movie and the 1-18-08 movie are not the same movie. I will list them point by point, and I will number them. then you can use the corresponding numbers, and respond to each point, in turn. do you understand? no more vagueries, no more illogical ramblings. point. by. point. ok?

1. both films were developed separately. meaning the cast, producers, writers and directors, are not the same. do you believe that the magazine articles, IMDB.com pages, insider information, as well as information from this site, is all part of a vast conspiracy to hide the fact that they are, in fact, one movie? (answer clearly. start out with a yes or a no, and go from there)

2. this film, (even if you disbelieve the budget) is told from the viewpoint of a few survivors of a large attack. their camera is found, and someone watches the footage. does this sound like the Voltron script that you have read/heard about? (since you have used that same script in previous posts to "prove" your overall point, I would assume that if the script did not match up with what this film is going to be, it would be an inconsitency with your theory, right?)

3. Voltron is going to be a movie with natural toy tie-ins, just like Transformers. that was the point of the original series, and a huge part of the rationale for remaking it. do you honestly believe a studio would look at the success of a film like Transformers, both in scope/box office/toys/tie-ins/advertisin g connections, etc., and take what is an obscenely similar franchise potential, and make it with camcorders, during a dark night, for 1/5 of the budget? (again, clear, concise answers here)

4. your "facts" proving this movie is Voltron included mentions of the slusho.jp site, where you insisted that cheese = France, and horses = Mexico, and that somehow this equals Voltron. for these signals to be meaningful, the rest of the symbols would have to be significant as well. so please tell us how they all relate to the Voltron script.

5. please tell us what would be the percieved advantage to creating a situation where (as you admit) 99% of the people who watched the trailer, and are involved in searching for more clues, do not think this is Voltron. if it actually is, do you consider this campagin a failure? considering everyone over the age of 13 has been convinced by the overwhelming tide of logic and rational thought, that it is NOT Voltron?

again, go point by point, and be clear. you keep complaining about a lack of evidence that it is NOT Voltron. even though the burden of proof SHOULD be on you, I've just given you some evidence, and asked you some questions abotu your theory.

I can honestly say, for many reasons, I look forward to your response...

I don't blame Moriarty
by WilliamWallace1974
Jul 15th, 2007
02:54:06 PM
Props to Mori for the scoop. They ripped off AICN, and gave them no credit. It's bush league, and he has every right to be mad. At the same time, Mori seems to be saying that we should cool it, when AICN has fanned the flames of all the fanboys hoping it's this story or that one. If it weren't for movie geeks obsessing over trailers and such, sites like this would have the traffic of the typical myspace page. If this is just a story of a monster attacking New York, I hope there's a reasonable explanation for why - once again - NYC is under attack, and what could cause an explosion that incinerates several city blocks.
either way mrx
by rdsxfan8
Jul 15th, 2007
02:54:13 PM
this thread has gone way off topic. is anyone out there still actively pursuing any clues other than voltron based rigamorole. mrx67 wont be satisifed until someone proves him wrong ( and even than it will still be part of a conspiracy to him) so lets get to searching. I dont even really care anymore what this movie is about but I will make it my mission to prove it is not VOLTRON... the only other question I have for you mrx67 is this why do you want a voltron movie so bad? I thought there was a general consensus out there that people were tired of the remakes, rehashing of childhood show/cartoons, and sequels/prequesls, etc.... wouldnt this just be another example of hollywood raping our childhoods? Im all for anything original now a days in hollywood, but again if i turn out to be wrong I will in no way go kill myself. its only hollywood and I can choose not to spend my money on this film in a vain attempt to get them to understand that Im tired of them and want more original ideas out there. but as long as people like you keeping thinking the way you do, the days of remakes, rehashings, etc... will continue and Im gonna compliment you mrx btw . your a damn tenacious lil bugger. that I will def give you
BadMrWonka
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:56:13 PM
Man, those are all good points. And they have all been raised by others and then swatted aside by MRX67. I, also, look forward to his reply.
I still think it's THE LEGEND OF BILL BRASKY
by Sir Loin
Jul 15th, 2007
02:56:53 PM
From SNL.
MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
02:59:49 PM
I don't need you to explain anything about rights...I know how it works. But go ahead and do what I said anyway. And here's another fact: The "rumor" that MGC is affiliated with Paramount is WRONG. MGC has first-look deals with Columbia Pictures and Touchstone Television. That's a fact, so sayeth the Hollywood Creative Directory. Look it up www.hcdonline.com
ANTSYPANTSY
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:02:32 PM
I'm not upset at all. You seem to be the one getting upset. I know that you site other scoops, but I didn't see any before June 21st, which is when AICN first started talking about this. Sorry if I missed that...can you please post the link here?
It's a giant Jell-O Pudding Pop
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:03:14 PM
From 1987, come to the future to get us all back on track in our enjoyment of the one, the only, Jell-O Pudding Pop.
Wonka you have talking bunny???
by PROF IKAMONO
Jul 15th, 2007
03:04:37 PM
...does it speak French like your cat Henri???
Wood on the fire
by derf24
Jul 15th, 2007
03:06:12 PM
you guys are keeping this voltron bullshit going by respond to the dumb ass dude mrx67. Go back to the original thread and lets figure this shit out.
I don't even have a non-talking bunny
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
03:08:09 PM
it just sounded as ludicrous as possible, and since I was trying to parallel MRX67, I thought it appropriate.
Wait a minute, what's Voltron?
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:08:57 PM
Sounds like a massive battery. So maybe it is a giant rabbit, only it's the Energizer bunny!

Anybody ever wonder why

A. The Energizer bunny is pink, yet clearly supposed to be masculine (what with the sunglasses and all)

B. Why the fuck it was in a marching band of one?

It's not Voltron.
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 15th, 2007
03:09:22 PM
VOLTRON did not take place on Earth. Nor would any filmmaker in their right fucking mind make a VOLTRON movie as told through the lenses of hand-held video cameras.

THANK YOU.

Finis.

Its the Six Million Dollar man
by Phategod1
Jul 15th, 2007
03:09:55 PM
01/18/75 Lee majors Invaded our TV's now it's new Yorks turn.
The movie is Godzilla... VS Cthulhu!
by Boondock Devil
Jul 15th, 2007
03:09:56 PM
Only the greatest monster movie fight never filmed. Yet.
good call derf
by rdsxfan8
Jul 15th, 2007
03:10:25 PM
Im through with this nonsense. like i said lets be the first to figure this out on here than see who uses out info as an exclusive report and takes our credit...
It's KoRn
by Phategod1
Jul 15th, 2007
03:11:43 PM
01/18/71 Jonathon Davis's birth day Hello NYC is going to get Rocked to death LiiL
Antsypantsy...
by TheRealMoriarty
Jul 15th, 2007
03:13:11 PM
... you're an idiot. There's not a single post on the IMDb boards from before July 2nd. We posted our first detailed story on June 21st. Now, I'm not sure if your mommy has explained the calendar to you yet, but "June" comes before "July," okay?
RUMOR CONTROL!!!
by wackybantha
Jul 15th, 2007
03:14:14 PM
CLOVERFIELD is NOT the new RAINBOW BRITE live-action film!!!
Mori
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:15:30 PM
I asked the guy to post a link to a scoop that predates the one here, but got called a blind moron in return. Personally, I can't believe this guy isn't writing for Time.
BLADE RUNNER STORY!!!
by wackybantha
Jul 15th, 2007
03:16:42 PM
Can someone at AICN please fill us in on why the Blade Runner: The Final Cut's supposedly new opening titles article was pulled?
antsy=douche, Mori=angry school marm
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:16:49 PM
I agree that this Antsy persona is being a jerk, but by responding to him Mori you stoop to his level.

Leave that shit to us regular talkbackers. You're better than that, or at least I assumed you were since you get a black box for your responses.

MRX67
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
03:17:20 PM
so that was 1., I'm assuming the rest are to follow.

but alredy you've fallen into one of the most common logical fallacies. this is expecially common with conspiracy theorists.

just because the small problems you list with the IMDB page for Voltron, combined with a very generous interpretation of the possibilities of the 1-18-08 page, mean that is is REMOTELY POSSIBLE they are the same movie, it does not mean it is PROOF they are the same movie. this is logical fallacy. some people call it the "fallacy of composition", but that's slightly different, in actuality.

wackybantha & BLADE RUNNER Titles
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 15th, 2007
03:18:54 PM
No official explanation was given on the site. However, if you were to check out the YouTube profile of the guy who posted the title sequence, you would find that he had two different versions and noted what the changes were between them.

In other words, it was not legit.

Back on Track, what kinda things should the monster do?
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:18:59 PM
Or monsters? I want fire breath, talons, laser vision, and projectile spines. So basically I'm rooting for the monster to be a giant dragon-eagle-robot-porcupine.

Here's to wishing!

MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:19:20 PM
Good call!!! Only they're two different movies!!! So what you said means absolutely nothing!!! Now, why don't you just explain to all of us idiots about the clue in the third picture.
SoylentMean
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:20:41 PM
Acid saliva would be good. Also, if any piece you cut off of him grew into another giant monster.
RE: ANTSYPANTSY
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 15th, 2007
03:21:12 PM
What the hell are we supposed to call this blogspot shilling douchebag? Is it ANTSYPANTSY. Or is it Arthur?

I'm voting for SHITSPANTSY myself...

MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:21:35 PM
No, dude. We're just a little short on crazy around here and I want you to inject a little more.
Voltron? Really??
by Boondock Devil
Jul 15th, 2007
03:22:45 PM
I wish I can say that I'm shocked that a few people really believe that this movie is going to be Voltron. I have to agree with the majority who thinks it would be the worst marketing idea ever to have a movie like Voltron and not let the masses know what's coming. It might not have the name recognition of Transformers but it's pretty damn close.

All I'm really expecting from this movie is a well-made monster-attacks-city film with a more human POV with the handheld cameras.

Mr. Nice Gaius
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:23:16 PM
Believe me, you don't need to resort to name-calling to make this guy look like an idiot. He is attacking bad reprting with more bad reporting. That says it all. He is "fact-checking" facts with things that...wait for it...aren;t facts themselves.
Nice General, a regenerating Alien thingy!!
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:23:30 PM
"Everytime you kill one two will rise to take it's place". Yeah, wasn't that Hellboy? Acid Spit=Alien franchise. I think what we need is for the monster to sing like Bob Dylan.

No one knows the terror of GRAVEL VOICE!!!!!!

MRX67
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
03:23:32 PM
you haven't forgotten about the rest of my points, have you?

you wanted facts and explanations, I gave them to you.

or do you want to ignore them, because your fantasy is a little shaky when it comes to solid data and facts?

if you're joking (and I still think it's 50/50, since I can't imagine you are serious, and yet smart enough to have figured out how to type), then I'm gonna make you pay, brother!

and if you're serious, well, god help you. you're not going to win this debate. your only chance to to fling your arms up and run away, as you just implied you were going to.

MRX: my bunny can talk!

BadMrWonka: "OK, let's hear it."

MRX: "prove to me it can't talk!"

BadMrWonka: "OK, well, no bunny in history has ever spoken. their vocal chords are not developed in a way to create speech. I've never heard this bunny talk, nor has anyone else. how ar those for facts?" MRX: "um...why can't anyone give me evidence that this bunny can't talk? I give up, I'm leaving. and I'm taking my bunny!"

SoylentMean
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:24:36 PM
Hey, I didn't say it would be original...just cool.
This is so doable for $30 million.
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
03:25:16 PM
If you don't have to go "outside" the home video footage, you'll almost never see anything expensive, just a bunch of cowering and whimpering hipsters.
Wouldn't it be cool if it was an army of monsters?
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:25:24 PM
And this was a prequel for a proposed future trilogy of GIANT-MONSTERS-ATTACKING-THING S movies?

Yes, yes it would be cool. So it won't happen.

Hey General, my last post sounded kinda smarmy
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:26:48 PM
Sorry about that. I guess my point was that this is supposedly an "original" concept. That's all.
GeneralJackCosmo
by Mr. Nice Gaius
Jul 15th, 2007
03:27:01 PM
Roger that. But when he took the "Oooh I'm getting the AICN Morons Upset" route, I just decided a good ol' AICN nickname was in order.
MRX67
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:27:13 PM
So help us out and explain the clue in the third picture.
Red Ned, Gorgo was the first time I felt empathy.
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
03:27:52 PM
First time I felt empathy for anything. I think I cried. I still hate the British to this day for capturing Gorgo.
Transformers 2 will be made before Voltron
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:27:56 PM
Just thought I'd point that out
Soylent Mean, I think the Creature might be from...
by Bronx Cheer
Jul 15th, 2007
03:28:48 PM
Jersey, which would explain the terror caused by the water, as it probably hates bathing. HA!
SoylentMean
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:28:53 PM
No offense taken at all. I just couldn't think of anything else, and, personally, I think it would fucking suck to have to deal with something that you couldn't wound for fear of having multiple somethings to deal with...that you can't wound.
MRX67
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
03:30:03 PM
you sound like a broken record. stop making grandiose statements and take my points one by one...

if you really think your position is logical and defensible, they you would have no problem going logically through the points I made.

if, on the other hand, your position is shaky, and indefensible on the basis of logic and reason, then you would keep making the same vague complaints over and over again.

which of these describes what you're doing?

(also, google, the logical fallacy "appeal to probability"...it perfectly describes your mistaken rationale for everything you're claiming to be factually true)

BadMrWonka
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:31:45 PM
I'm telling you...we've been through ALL THIS BEFORE...hasn't even slowed him down...
ZizzleSolizzle
by GeneralJackCosmo
Jul 15th, 2007
03:33:27 PM
Fo shizzle.
MX thinks he's Descartes, but Descartes Dead, Baby
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:33:45 PM
Descartes Dead
or MRX, damn it they're called vowels
by SoylentMean
Jul 15th, 2007
03:35:00 PM
Put a fuckin' vowel in your screen name, jerk
I know, General
by BadMrWonka
Jul 15th, 2007
03:35:15 PM
I'm not allowing someone to piss on my church, the church of logic and reason.

if he wants to ignore reality and reason, he's entitled. but he's NOT entitled to claim that the facts are on his side. they are not.

he's either going to leave with his tail between his legs (as he's sort of tried to do), or he's going to admit that he's basing his belief on faith and hope, not logic and reason.

no one pisses on my church!

why do people think this is Voltron?
by drave117
Jul 15th, 2007
03:35:43 PM
I'm not trying to be mean, I honestly want to know. I was under the impression that the rumor got started purely because somebody misheard a line in the trailer, and thought the guy said "I saw it, it's a lion, it's huge!" but obviously there must be more to it than th