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Is Sam Rockwell gonna hafta CHOKE a witch?!?

first by The Mighty Molecule	Jul 12th, 2007 03:25:05 AM
oh. im first
Sweet!!! by BlackIronPrison	Jul 12th, 2007 03:25:21 AM
that book is fucking hilarious. sam rockwell is perfect for this, i must say.
A BAY BAY by ThePerv	Jul 12th, 2007 03:25:42 AM
great book, looking forward to the movie as well....hope they dont leave out the jesus hints
good picks by TheNorthlander	Jul 12th, 2007 03:29:33 AM
Now let's get Leland Orser for Survivor.
all young doctors by iwontwin	Jul 12th, 2007 03:35:34 AM
love that book...or is it another one?
Not one of Palahniuk's best by Franklin T Marmoset	Jul 12th, 2007 03:35:58 AM
It's enjoyable enough, but pretty much a retread of Fight Club, with sex and choking instead of fighting and dadaist terrorism. Still, you can't go wrong with Sam Rockwell, so he could make this worthwhile. Survivor is the one I'm waiting for. Fantastic book and a very grim flipside to the theme of Fight Club. I'd love to see a film of that one, but it would take a talented director to pull it off.
clark gregg directing!? by Holodigm	Jul 12th, 2007 03:39:57 AM
sweet!
Dude I am Fucking IN!! by SouthSide_2010	Jul 12th, 2007 03:40:10 AM
I read this book about a couple of years ago and enjoyed the hell out of it. I love the casting of Sam Rockwell in this film. I can't wait for the first trailer...
Finally another Palahniuk adaptation... by DocBosch	Jul 12th, 2007 03:40:22 AM
and they're giving it to SOME GUY to direct AND write!? I'm all for giving new people a chance, but come'on. I know we weren't going to get Fincher for this, and a novice director could turn out good work, especially with a great DP, but shouldn't they at least be trusting the script to Jim Uhls who did an amazing job with FC? Fight Club is an amazing movie, but it could have easily been fucked up in the writing stages. Anyway, lets hope this is good (Rockwell and Huston are a good sign) and maybe we'll see Survivor later on too.
Didn't Clark Gregg play... by SouthSide_2010	Jul 12th, 2007 03:42:15 AM
Vinnie Chase's Father that wanted to become a woman in "Adventures of Sebastian Cole"? 'Cuz if that's him, then that just added some fun silliness to this film.
Speaking of Survivor... by DocBosch	Jul 12th, 2007 03:43:50 AM
...has anybody else considered how that could be retooled into a Fight Club sequel? Now bear with me. Obviously a lot from the book would have to be changed, but it could easily deal with the narrator's survivor remorse toward Project Mayhem. Whatever, i haven't read Survivor in a while, but what does anybody think?
Clark Gregg was on the West Wing by BadMrWonka	Jul 12th, 2007 03:48:46 AM
he's got my $10 just for that... also I met Pahluniak in college when he came to my university. I had a steak dinner with him! he talks a lot, and is very polite, but very weird.
DocBosch by TheNorthlander	Jul 12th, 2007 04:15:10 AM
what I think is, you haven't read Survivor at all.
Choke a witch? by Varakor	Jul 12th, 2007 04:22:57 AM
I don't remember a w in front of that word....
Yes, I've read Survivor... by DocBosch	Jul 12th, 2007 04:54:56 AM
...a number of years ago. If I hadn't, I wouldn't have said I had. I never read Choke. See how easy that was. The reason I brought Survivor up was because it is the only non-Fight Club Palahniuk novel I've read, and I realized, thusly so, I would be far more interesting in seeing that movie rather then Choke. Then I remembered, back in the day there was some news about a possible Survivor movie here on AICN, and somebody in the TB mentioned that, after 9/11, it would be impossible to adapt Survivor faithfully, what with the way it opens. Then somebody else said that, with the cult statues FC had built up by then, that some studio person would probably only agree to make Survivor if it were fitted as a sequel to FC. Having recently finished the book, I then tried to figure out how that would work. I never said it would be a good idea, but I wouldn't put it past some executive to think it. Anyway, thanks for being a prick and fuck you.
Funniest "rape" ever in this book. by Cameron1	Jul 12th, 2007 05:08:31 AM
I hope they keep that bit. Rockwell can do no wrong so here's hoping it'll be good. I much prefer Survivor and possibly even Lullaby (tho' I know some hate that one). DocBosch, the funny thing is that I read Survivior after watching Fight Club and couldn't help but imagine Norton in the role of Tender Branson. But he's a little old for it now, someone like Ryan Gosling would be brilliant for it I think.
Rockwell will play a sex addict? by TheBloop	Jul 12th, 2007 05:57:41 AM
My question is, what healthy male under 55 isn't a sex addict? Myself included of course.
Cameron1 by DocBosch	Jul 12th, 2007 06:00:43 AM
I think I too kept imagining Norton. Also, Nicole Kidman as, um, the girl (told you it was a while ago).
FINALLY!!!! YES! Choke is his best work by DanDelion	Jul 12th, 2007 06:11:42 AM
But Survivor is my personal favorite. The fact that it's SHOOTING, like, for real, makes me all kinds of happy.
The best headline AICN has had... full stop!!! by Napolean Solo	Jul 12th, 2007 06:16:45 AM
That was funny!!!
Half Price Books by Sebilrazen	Jul 12th, 2007 06:54:26 AM
used to work there, good times. But good luck finding any of Chucky P's books there, people don't sell them, they tend to keep them.
Choke is pretty good, but I would love to see Rant. by beastie	Jul 12th, 2007 07:40:28 AM
Palahniuk introduced me (hey, I was young) to a new style of fiction. But after reading his predecessers, I realized that most of his books, while entertaining, aren't much more than a syntax music video. Rant, on the other hand, had some substance to it. It was a great leap foward for Palahniuk, while keeping to his fast paced and fun style. It would make Vonnegut proud.
didn't like this book, stopped reading Palahniuk..... by themagus	Jul 12th, 2007 08:01:46 AM
after i read this book. still it could make a decent movie. fight club was a much better movie than book.
Can they do this? by BeyondStatic	Jul 12th, 2007 08:18:03 AM
Really, the book is great. It's twisted, random, and sexually graphic, and all that's necessary to get the full impact of the story. Between Palahniuk's disjointed, though effective, writing style and the almost requiste NC-17 scenes, can they do the book justice?? Probably not. (When was the last time an adaptation did a good book justice??) But I'd love to see them try.
how can they do the climax? (SPOILERS-VILLE - BEWARE) by triplefive	Jul 12th, 2007 08:24:19 AM
if i remember correctly, one of the final scenes would be Rockwell being pummeled in an interrogation room until the anal bead that was stuck in his rectum finally comes loose, freeing weeks of backed up shit on the interrogation room floor. this movie could be really fucked up.
Aren't all of Chuck Palahniuk's books.... by RighteousBrother	Jul 12th, 2007 08:24:30 AM
essentially the same?
don't "stock up," Quint. by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jul 12th, 2007 08:39:17 AM
seriously. Chuck P is kind of a one trick pony. i made the mistake of reading several of his in a row and now i can't even read the back cover without rolling my eyes. choke is fight club is lulliby is survivor. and i couldny get through the first chapter of... one of his others. read them a year or so apart, or else they will all run together. i realize thats heresy in the geek/hipster community, but its the truth. sorry fellas.
Yes and no, RighteousBrother by Franklin T Marmoset	Jul 12th, 2007 08:41:40 AM
He tends to rehash similar themes (the corrupting influence of consumer culture, destroying one life to make way for another) but you could say that about most writers. They have a few ideas that interest them and they play with them over and over. That said, Choke was definitely his least interesting book to me, mostly because it really was Fight Club in different clothes.
Gatsbys West Egg Omlet has a point, Quint by Franklin T Marmoset	Jul 12th, 2007 08:45:04 AM
The one trick pony comment is harsh, but I also wouldn't recommend reading a lot of Palahniuk in one go. Read one, read a bunch of other stuff, then come back when he's faded from your memory a bit. Otherwise, the repetitions in theme and style will be glaring.
All I have to say is... by Hookman	Jul 12th, 2007 08:56:26 AM
POODLE
also... by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet	Jul 12th, 2007 08:59:16 AM
his books are full of lonely desperate people doing lonely desperate things. like a good friend of mine said before showing me Requiem for a Dream, "you've got to be emotionaly ready to deal with this". don't get into his stuff if you are mildly depressed, really depressed, or ride the subway daily in NYC. i had to stop reading his work not only for the repatition factor, but because i was tired of all the negativity in it. as if we dont see enough of that in every day life. why would anyone want to read that for fun? i guess that makes 4 cents from me, if anyone wants it.
This was a great book by homer40	Jul 12th, 2007 09:05:41 AM
But I actually enjoyed "Haunted" more. When is someone going to adapt Elroy's "American Tabloid" and "Cold Six Thousand"? Given their length, perhaps an HBO series might be the best format.
Deathly Hallows Sucks by cripplefight	Jul 12th, 2007 09:07:14 AM
Try his other books. Deathly Hallows is different. I couldn't get into it.
Can we have a Rant movie after this? by Catnip_Thieves	Jul 12th, 2007 09:09:53 AM
Because what I really want to see on the big screen is some lunatic giving a chick rabies by licking her out. Bring it.
Not one of his best? by Jor-El23	Jul 12th, 2007 09:16:00 AM
That implies he has a best. This guy is such a hack writer.
So when's Houston's stuff going to be adapted? by savagexp	Jul 12th, 2007 09:21:15 AM
I've read all five of Houston's novels and each one is worthy of an adaptation... c'mon, Quint. Give us the scoop.
cripplefight... by Grendy	Jul 12th, 2007 09:23:43 AM
oh man...the comedy that just flows out of you is amazing. well, i hope you're trying to be funny with the DH reference... I kinda agree on the Chuck P overload. I read 3 books in a row of his last summer and they were similar in tone. I also was inspired by a line in Fight Club for a tattoo design (two memoriam tats) and when I get some decent pics of the two tattoos I plan to send a copy to Chuck P to say thanks for the inspiration. I would love to see this as a film. I loves me some Rockwell. He was great as Chuck Barris a few years ago, and can disappear into a role quite easily.
Sam Rockwell by Mosquito March	Jul 12th, 2007 09:24:58 AM
I hope he didn't have to 'choke' on Victor Salva's cock while making CLOWNHOUSE.
I also vote for Survivor by savagexp	Jul 12th, 2007 09:25:18 AM
Survivor is Chuck's most varied book. I love his work, but with every other novel, the "hero" is essentially the same guy.
Diary by Son of Hefner	Jul 12th, 2007 09:35:42 AM
That would be a great movie...the clues are scattered throughout the book and all could work on screen. Like FC had the continual flash backs that you caught each time you watched it - Diary would get you watching again and again, understanding more each time you watched it. First time here - years of lurking.
I have been reading about this Clark Gregg by Franklin T Marmoset	Jul 12th, 2007 09:50:05 AM
He's a fully paid-up member of the 'THAT GUY!' club. The name meant nothing to me, but as soon as I saw his face I recognised him. Been in a bunch of stuff, including some David Mamet films, and also he played Kevin Rooney in that shitty film where Spawn was Mike Tyson. The other day, I saw him in In Good Company, which was garbage but had Scarlett Johansson in it. IMDB says Joel Grey is also in this Choke film, which fits in nicely with my obsession with Buffy cast members. That bastard pushed Spike off that giant tower thingy.
FUCK YEAH!!! by nogimmick	Jul 12th, 2007 10:19:45 AM
FINALLY---another Chuck P. book being made into a movie! VERY exciting! I was kinda hoping for either Survivor or Diary, but Choke is a very good book too. CAN'T WAIT!!!
Rockwell would have been great in Survivor by Laserbrain	Jul 12th, 2007 10:35:43 AM
Come to think of it.
Choke won't work by ScamsAndFlams	Jul 12th, 2007 10:55:06 AM
First of all, how do you handle the anal beads and bowel releasing? The anal beads are vital to this story, HOW are you going to show that they've popped out?
I've read most of his books by the_outsider	Jul 12th, 2007 11:26:24 AM
and He is pretty repetitive. Haunted is a half-baked, half-arsed attempt at horror. I read FC years ago (before the film came out) and was blown away, to the point of importing Survivor to the UK from the US. I was pretty disappointed, but stuck with him for the next few releases. Of those, I can say that I only enjoyed Non-Fiction, for the simple fact that the premise of the book wouldn't allow him to repeat the same themes over and over. He seems to come up with good ideas, but drags them along in the middle for far too long, before allowing them to fizzle in the end. He needs to get a decent editor in to reign in the carte blanche he has been afforded for too long. There's another book of FC quality in that head of his that doesn't have to be a reworking of it. Try reading the Contortionist's Handbook, or The Subject Steve for a similar style of writing and themes explored. Former's really good, the latter not so much.
Anal Beads? WOW by liljuniorbrown	Jul 12th, 2007 11:38:44 AM
I thought that was something really freaky chicks did in porno's or in really lucky guys bed rooms. Never thought of it as something a dude would do.I'm sure it makes sense ,if your into that kind of thing (not I) it probably sets off the prostate and shit (literaly) but still I can't see some chick ever being able to talk me into that one and I really can't see a mainstream Hollywood movie including anal beads into the plot.
I forget how Choke ends. by ThreeOranges	Jul 12th, 2007 12:56:53 PM
Someone remind me.
Sales Pitch by bythehairofsanjaya	Jul 12th, 2007 01:00:34 PM
Sales Pitch to movie Producers: "Rockwell will play a sex addict and Colonial War re-enactor who deliberately chokes in restaurants" Oh, yeah. I want to put in a few of my personal millions on this one. Where do I sign up?
Make fucking SURVIVOR! by PwnedByStallone	Jul 12th, 2007 01:30:37 PM
This is a good start though.
Very blah book by Gheorghe Zamfir	Jul 12th, 2007 01:43:56 PM
Like most Palahniuk's books, especially his first five (though I'm one of the few to really love Invisible Monsters), just lots of bite sized scenarios and "clever" witticisms covering up the actual lack of substance. BUT, after having said that, as a book I was bored, as a movie I think this could actually be pretty off-the-wall cool.
why do you gotta drag the witches into this? by oisin5199	Jul 12th, 2007 02:32:16 PM
like you couldn't put 'bitch' in the title line.
You think a cast like this would sign up if the script by godoffireinhell	Jul 12th, 2007 02:34:23 PM
was garbage? I fucking doubt it! His directing skills are unknown but I'm sure he wrote a pretty damn great script or else none of these folks would work on it. I can't imagine this project will be able to offer huge paychecks.
Anal beads= Sold. by Stuntcock Mike	Jul 12th, 2007 02:55:02 PM
If there's even a hint of that in the film, they've got my $10
How about Rant? by Stuntcock Mike	Jul 12th, 2007 02:57:52 PM
Kinda similar to FC, but who cares?
Chuck needs a life.. by Ninja Nerd	Jul 12th, 2007 02:58:25 PM
...besides writing. Jeez, his stuff IS pedantic retreads of the same song, next verse. I liked Fight Club a LOT...discovered the book and CP well before the movie and buzz about the author. Read Survivor and thought "WTF!?"...does this guy only have ONE BOOK in him??? After reading Choke and several others, I think that's the case. I might see the movie, but I'm thinking I'll wait for cable.
don't fuck with the chuck by The Real MiraJeff	Jul 12th, 2007 04:11:20 PM
palahniuk is amazing, i've read every one of his books, he is absolutely not a one-trick pony, loved the headline, quint, and stock up all you want, although choke isn't near the top of my list either, i'm partial to invisible monsters, survivor, and haunted, although lullaby is pretty good too. diary has been his worst so far. i don't think clark gregg is the guy to bring victor mancini to life either but at least he's got sam rockwell backin him up. this is going to be a tough one to adapt, as all of chuck's books are, but if they can even get close to fight club level, it's all good
Quo Vadimus... by DanielKurland	Jul 12th, 2007 04:17:28 PM
I sent this news in a long time ago (about Rockwell and Huston), but at least there is finally a talkback. It's nice that Palahniuk is being so closely involved with it, like he was with Fight Club. All I can say is that the "fake rape" scene with the whole safe word stuff better be kept in the movie, or at least filmed. It's one of the funniest things that has been written.
Kelly Macdonald is hot by kafka07	Jul 12th, 2007 05:07:19 PM
Something about British chicks really does it for me.
Okay I give up where's Clooney?? by theonecalledshoe	Jul 12th, 2007 05:41:35 PM
The OG George must be involved somehow...
Rockwell is perfectly cast as Victor by eppdude	Jul 12th, 2007 06:58:56 PM
It is a good book. Really love Palahniuk. Although I DO LOVE Haunted. "Rant" was interesting, but a disappointment overall. Too many big ideas for Chuck to handle I think in that one.
Rockwell!!! by Nachokoolaid	Jul 12th, 2007 07:16:04 PM
Awesome. I remember reading that saying, "Sam Rockwell would be awesome in this." This is beyond awesome.
I recommend... by kung_fu_elvis	Jul 12th, 2007 08:20:58 PM
Lullaby by Chuck.
VIGGO'S BALLS by fritzlorrerains	Jul 12th, 2007 10:05:17 PM
Coming to a movie theatre soon. Eastern Promises September 2007
After seeing "SHORTBUS..." by Liquid_Daze	Jul 12th, 2007 10:11:46 PM
John Cameron Mitchell might have been perfect to helm this (although someone else would probably have to write the screenplay). But if Mitchell directed it (as written), it would never have a chance of reaching a wide audience. Back when I first read "Choke" I thought a good cast would consist of: Leonardo DiCaprio as Victor. Christine Baranski as Ida. Tina Fey as Paige. And Giovanni Ribisi as Denny. Which, obviously would never happen. I like the Rockwell and Macdonald; I hope this is a good adaptation.
Is Sam Rockwell gonna hafta choke a by Bass Ackwards	Jul 12th, 2007 11:00:37 PM
When did this site go PG-13? Yabba dabba doo mother fuckers.
by Bass Ackwards	Jul 12th, 2007 11:53:35 PM
! Is Sam Rockwell gonna hafta choke a , that was supposed to be the joke in the subject. Some reason it didn't show up, it would have been hilarious though, I swear to Christ.
gunshot by Bass Ackwards	Jul 12th, 2007 11:54:32 PM
Ok, so you can't use '', I get it now.
Witch Comment by Donnie_Drunko	Jul 13th, 2007 05:28:15 AM
Huston was in The Witches aways back.The Comment wasn't PG-13 it was just funny all the way around. Do some research people. Really gave me a good laugh.
I was disappointed by Survivor... by Otter	Jul 13th, 2007 07:56:00 AM
especially with the anticlimatic ending; it was good up until the last chapter, then it was WTF??? I'd like to see DIARY or RANT made before SURVIVOR.
I was disappointed by Survivor... by Otter	Jul 13th, 2007 08:20:17 AM
especially with the anticlimatic ending; it was good up until the last chapter, then it was WTF??? I'd like to see DIARY or RANT made before SURVIVOR.
Ummm... (Survivor spoilers) by Franklin T Marmoset	Jul 13th, 2007 08:49:24 AM
Survivor is about the inevitable, inescapable nature of your past. Tender Branson was raised to believe he had to commit suicide - how else could the book end? In fact, Palahniuk makes it perfectly clear how it's going to end from the very start. The backwards numbering, the frequent reminders that Branson is narrating the story while flying a plane he intends to crash in the outback. I'm a little confused. How can a book that continually tells you how it's going to end (that's the point - you can't escape it) be anticlimactic?
I was disappointed by Survivor... by Otter	Jul 13th, 2007 10:18:07 AM
especially with the anticlimatic ending; it was good up until the last chapter, then it was WTF??? I'd like to see DIARY or RANT made before SURVIVOR.
re: Umm by Otter	Jul 13th, 2007 10:26:16 AM
Of course I knew about the plane, but Fertility was telling him that he would survive through her predictions. I thought that would have been revealed in the end of the book. That's what disappointed me.
He did survive by Gheorghe Zamfir	Jul 13th, 2007 10:50:42 AM
Its been awhile since I've read it so I don't remember all the hints but one of them was if you read the last and first xhapther you notice the narration actually restarts, verbatim. Remember we're getting the story from the blackbox, not in real time. The narration restatting is a hint that the story is being told to the black box by a tape recorder, Tender bailed the plane before the crash.
Did Mancini steal their life savings? by JacksParasites	Jul 13th, 2007 11:58:05 AM
It's been years since I read Choke, but I don't remember him stealing his supposed rescuers' saving. I remember him constantly receiving holiday cards from his rescuers. In any event, having read Palahniuk's first 4 books, FC is my favorite, Survivor and Invisible Monsters are tied for second, and Choke is third, but still good. I also read the narrator parts of all his books with Norton's voice (even Invisible Monsters). I've thought about casting choices Invisible Monster. I'd love to see Angelina Jolie as Brandy Alexander and even though the narrator is mostly masked, you need someone like Cameron Diaz, I think, to play her. Plus it'd be cool to have a good actress who's hot and have them go mostly unseen throughout the film.
Survivor spoilers by DanDelion	Jul 13th, 2007 12:50:04 PM
He survives. Anyone who didn't get that is a moron. The whole book tells you how it's going to end- did you really think that's what would actually happen? He has a bunch of parachutes left over, everyone else is off the plane, and Paige tells him he's going to survive. When you're the biggest man in the world, what to a fix to a fix is large enough to save you? Simple: Death. He's a survivor.
"Riding him like a jockey." by Bluereader	Jul 13th, 2007 02:19:19 PM
I was sitting in a park in NYC the other day when I overheard this actress talking to a friend say, "Yeah, I'm going for an audition for this movie 'Choke.' One scene says she's riding him like a jockey and I had to call Tim to see what it meant... It means bouncing up and down on a guy while having sex." That said, the actress was smokin' hot and I hope she got the role cause I'm dying to see her on top of Rockwell with her titties all flapping around.
Happy & Sad about this... by Konigsberg	Jul 13th, 2007 02:24:12 PM
I have to say that I'm of the club that was a big Chuck lover and have kind of chilled to him (RANT is shaping up to be a nice return to form... still reading). He felt to me like he'd written his first four books prior to celebrity, and had really had a chance to hone them all, get them tight, then once the 'machine' started, he couldn't keep up with the demand of a book a year and didn't have the time to refine as much. I felt it was really down hill after Choke (Choke is my favorite although I think Survivor is his strongest novel). Being an amateur filmmaker myself I used Choke as tool to learn how to adapt works of fiction and so I'm bias in that I'm really happy with the script that I turned out (even if no other living soul has ever seen it), and I LOVE Sam Rockwell, but I wasn't overly jazz'd when I heard he got cast.... although I was even less excited about Angelica.... personally I pictured the mother the way Chuck wrote about her, practically a skeleton wrapped in flesh. I had kind of in mind more like the older woman that raps in The Wedding Singer (weird reference, I know). Either way, I'm excited for the film, but I'm slightly concerned. I'm hoping that Rockwell's performance is something new, and tapped into the character, he's been known to rely on 'quirky tricks' in the past. Fingers are very much crossed.

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