he's good...hate all you want, but he's simply good...not amazingly great, but good...

this movie will not be terrible because of him...I don't think Indy has to have a son, but if he does, Shia is a good choice. trust me...

Serious question though, what kind of object is Indy looking for that leads him to the whole "aliens" thing (which we understand isn't really aliens)? And is please tell me Indy doesn't pass the fedora to Shia at the end, insinuating that he'll take over for a "retired" Indy. Thanks!

Serious question though, what kind of object is Indy looking for that leads him to the whole "aliens" thing (which we understand isn't really aliens)? And is please tell me Indy doesn't pass the fedora to Shia at the end, insinuating that he'll take over for a "retired" Indy. Thanks!

On the other hand, I find the anti-nuke message intriguing. If it goes all-out anti-nuke, as I believe Spielberg will, then count me in.

Jesus, you fucking queefeaters need to shut the fuck up.

"Ayyyyyyyyyyy..."

It was old months ago. Let it go. To all you dumb douches that can't get past Shia, repeat after me: "Serenity now. Serenity now."

Good day.

Shia, slip him some breath mints!

Now Willie Scott on the other hand almost single handedly ruined Temple of Doom. What an awful character and an even worse actress. Capshaw was truly abysmal.

Good day.

Can't wait til '08.

I'd think if there was any chance at all they were going to use that title, it'd be bought already. Lucasfilm can spare the $15.

The sooner we can find WORTH hating, the better. As the saying goes, "Haters gotta hate SOMETHING."

Good day.

I like to imagine Indy trying to carry the Ark back with Marion's "help":

"Indy, can we rest for a few minutes?"

Jones, these rocks are killing my feet!"

Jones, we never get a chance, do we?"

You really are the most gifted bum my father ever taught."

Don't you see how it's a bit weird for someone who ISN'T Jewish to say how they think that someone's 'jewishness' is annoying?

"Hmm, I like that guy regularheadbelloq, but he's a bit too agnostic-y, I wish he would just tone it down a notch. and he hangs out with too many Yids. Fuck him."

Now, If I assume that you're not completely insane and you know this already, I'm left to infer that what you're really upset about is not that LaBoof might be getting an unfair advantage, but that his unfair advantage is happening BECAUSE HE'S JEWISH. See how that might rankle? See how that might itch? I' not buying your argument that the Jewish factor is an incidental one.

sorry, couldn't resist. But seriously folks- the fact that you support Israel might have everything or nothing to do with your opinions of Jews in general, I have no idea, it's a completely irrelevant point. The only point I was ever trying to make is that many of your statements have demonstrated an obvious loathing of Jews, and every time you've tried to defend agaisnt this accusation your replies have had the equivalent intellectual punch as "Am not". See, the point isn't that Speliberg and Labeouf COULD be hindus, or mormons, or scientologists, this is what you KEEP NOT GETTING, and I'm getting tired of having to repeat myself. The point, the Real point, is that they ARE Jews. See what I'm getting at? Next You'll say: "Oh, poor, sweet, innocent samsquanch, do you not see your folly? Spielberg and LeBeouf could be from Mars, and I would still find their money-grubbing, world-consipiratorial, large-nosed ways abrasive and uncouth. Heavens, It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Jews!!" Except that it does. Go back and read every one of your posts.

This was never about you simply not believing that LaBeouf wasn't talented. It was about you having a serious problem with the fact that Speilberg was giving the kid an (arguably undeserved) helping hand...BECAUSE HE'S JEWISH. Right? Am I right? That's all I was ever saying, you're the one who tried to steer it away from that initial position towards milder waters like "I think Speilberg got boring in his old age" or LaBeouf isn't talented." You were the one who said you blamed Speilberg's decline on his "infatuation with the holocaust" (an incredibly insensitive thing to say by anyone's standard) as well as fact that he was 'kingmaking' Labeouf for the reasons of cultural/religious nepotism. You were the one who had a deep problem with these things, I was the one who pointed it out. Trust me, no one has to look too hard these days to find examples of bigotry, and I am certainly not 'delighted' when I come across them. The thing is though, when I find some lazy, half-assed hateful comment in a talkback that I'm otherwise enjoying, I fucking call it out. You've never had the balls to admit I might have been right, and say something like: Shit, you're right, I should watch that bullshit." Instead you tried to re-write the last hour or so (a silly thing to attempt, since it's all right here in black and white) to paint yourself as a film critic, and not some dick who thinks Jews have it too easy. Man, neither of us are that original, just fucking admit it and move on.

Who the fuck is Russ, anyway?

I like where your head is, but I don't really agree. Indy did all the leg work to find the Ark. He acquired the head piece for the Staff of Ra and dug up the Well of Souls. Then Belloq shows up and snatches the Ark out of Indy's hand at the last second, just like he did in the opener with the fertility idol.

Ultimately, however, Indy succeeds in doing exactly what he was "hired" to do. Deliver the Ark of the Covenant to the US Government.

Is Speilberg not allowed anything new in this movie? Do you all want him to just remake one of the other films?

People are jumping on Shia and his character without even having seen one single second of footage.

Can someone please explain to me exactly what is wrong with Shias character in film making terms?

Having Indy's son is no lamer than Short round or having Indy's dad in a film.

If the Net had been round when Connery had been cast in Last Crusade you would all be bitchin too and now you love that film.

Why shouldn't the Berg hire him if he liked him? Doesn't that make sense? A director hiring an actor he likes instead of hiring someone who talk backers think is cool just to shut them up.

Most of you guys would bitch whoever was cast unless it was Bruce Campbell.

I think the Indy-kid dynamic will work well, it is an over used dynamic but that is because it works.

You all act Spielberg is a hack and is just making cheap easy descisions. How do you know that Ford and Shia mght not become a brilliant pairing,? How do you know he won't be better than short round?

And Shia isn't exactly over exposed. He did Guide to Recognising your Saints and was duly praised because he was brilliant in it. Then he did Disturbia, TF and now this. It's not exactly overexposure. And hating an actor because he is in too many films is stupid.

Did you want the Berg to go "Shia is my first choice for this role but i will choose a worse actor because Shia has been in too many films."

Anyway my point is how do you know Shia's character won't be better?

Oh, because he is new, because the film wasn't made in the 80's? There is no reason why he won't be as well loved as Short Round.

People seem to think that because something was in a film over 20 yrs ago it was perfect.

You all heap praise on the other Indy films and then act like this one will be rubbish even though it is the same creative team.

Doom was not a perfect film. It had some very cheesy and slightly off performances and was very shallow and throw away. It concentrated on fun. Last Crusade was big and silly and featured a father son dynamic that was played to great comedy effect.

But if any of these elemnts are in this film you will all bitch.

Any jokes made by Shia in the trailer and you will all be crying.

If there are to many links to the other films you will all say it is forced and moan.

If there are no links to the other films you will all say it isn't an Indy film and moan.

You'll either moan that it is too similar or too different.

I don't really know what you all want from this film.

I love the fact that we will get a new setting in the 50's, hopefully a McGuffin that feels distinct and not a rip-off of the others and a new character dynamic with Indy and Shia.

I love all this because we will get an Indy film that stands on it's own rather than a pointless nostalgia re-hash.

Speilberg hasn't tried to make a big fun movie since Jurrasic Park, War of the Worlds was essentially a family reffugee disaster movie.

And I don't consider any of his recent films boring. Minority Report and Munich are a couple of the best films of the last 10 years.

To suggest the Berg is slipping is saying that all the other directors of the 70's and 80's are still going strong. Well they are not, Scorsesse only just pulled back with the Departed and even that was a re-hash of his old style and wasn't even an original film (Infernal Affairs is a better film). Coppola, DePalma can't really pull anything good out anyomre either.

None of these guys get any of your bashing for making an average film every few years but Speilberg who still makes movies like he did in the 70's, fresh, original and daring gets dissmissed all the time.

There is no-reason to think that Speilberg can't still make a fun movie just becasue he hasn't tried for over 10 years. He has been taking a break pouring out roughly a film a year. To say his last 14 years have been boring is bull shit - Schindler's List, Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, AI, Minority Report, Catch Me If You Can, The Terminal, War of the Worlds, Munich. That is a pretty impressive list for an old guy at the tail end of his carrer.

There has never been any evidence of Lucas bringing down a film when working with Speilberg. I have 100% confidence in the Berg here as even when he makes bad films (1941, Hook) they are still pretty original and bring something new to the world. The man has directed over 27 films, not to mention the hundreds he produced and all his tv work. I'd be a bit suspicious of supernatural intervention if they where all perfect.

Most directors can make a couple of great films and then get praise forever no-matter how bad they get. Speilberg jus tseems to atract hate for some reason.

I believe he chose him because he liked him. You can't say that he wouldn't have chose him even without Disturbia and TF.

This is a director who when making Jurasic Park didn't throw in big pretty stars, he threw in Sam Neil, Laura Liney and Jeff Goldblume. He always picks actors for the roles rather than their status.

He does work with big names like Cruise but only when his movies suit him.

All the actors he chooses suit the roles. It is incidental when they are a big name.

quitbanningme - you clearly have different taste to me. Ryan was the most important war film ever made at the time. It was the first time war had been acurately portryed. I don't need a film to be all 'happy' to enjoy it. I like the fact that he went darker and explored different avenues.

I just find it hard to believe that you don't like many of his recent films.

Can you name a director who you consider more sucseful?

The thing is, Speilberg changed cinema as we know it with Jaws over 30 yrs ago, then again with ET, then with Indy, then with JP, then with List and Ryan and he still pours out original films at least once a year.

I cannot think of another director who has made as many good films.

Can you honestly say Speilberg has ever really fucked up. I mean made a god awful film?

Considering Indy will be number 27 or something I think he is doing better than anyone could possibly expect.

But instead of stopping he acted like he was a new director and tried something new with every film.

If a director had just had Speilbergs last 15 years he would be considered very succesful.

To have a perfect 1st 15 yrs followed by a great and very interesting second 15 yrs is miles beyond what any other director has ever done.

And he just doesn't seem to be slowing down. Maybe Indy 4 is him starting another 15 years of big blockbusters like he originally did and then he'll do another 15 years of more serious stuff.

He might live forever at this rate.

I agree that Jackson seems to have the same mentality as Speilberg, he knows hat a good old fashioned fun film is but his earlier work like Beutiful Creatures show that he has depth. He might be the one to be as succesful as Speilberg.

And it seems like they has been mucho bannings. Que paso?

I agree with you about the other 70's directors, and the prolificness (I'm not sure if that is a word). Maybe if he slowed his rate they would return to the standard set in the likes of Jaws, Close Encounters etc?

just a thought, as I cannot fucking wait for this, geriatric Indy, shia and all.

I tell ya JetL93, you're like a candy store. Just when you think your favorite candy is all out, they come and replenish the shelves!

(a) got sidetracked with the Tim Robbins basement scene and

(b) The ending was too abrupt and the son was EXTREMELY annoying and should have been incinerated.

I can't remember the last time I was this excited to see a movie. Fucking Indiana Jones is comming back! High - fucking - Five!

But, ther more info we get from JettL93, the more I suspect he's not actually Lucas' kid so much as another, very close insider.

Somebody who is part of, though possibly in a very unofficial way, a pro-active "good buzz" marketing strategy.

Mmmm, TOO LUCASY!

Or maybe Allie is frustrated about not being able to get Jett to respond to her comments?

Pass the apple wine!

If I were Jett, I'd probably pick a login that didn't have my name in it. 1) too obvious & 2) not fun enough. Sure my handle is partly my last name and a random year (I wasn't born in (1989), but it's not the first handle I've had here. It's a replacement.

But, whoever you are, I do really want to believe the info you've been divulging is sincerely the truth. It all sounds pretty exciting so far.

Heck, i wanna know if I'm going to win the bet with my friend that TF grosses $45MM in it's first 24 hours?

But I expect it would be announced shortly before Trailer #1.

I take it that since it's off-site, you can't go back in the repligin and comment first, huh?

Then there was a link, I think "Deus Vult" was doing some "research", to a site by John Titor and some speculative plans for a time machine. I might have that link somewhere, actually. Let me dig through my dusty files a moment...

SO, I guess they are not consistently registering them, or sucessful at buying them from others.

I've heard Ford can be quite grumpy and was just wondering if from what you have seen their relationship in the film will be successful.

I believe their on-screen chemistry will be key to the films success.

So many iconic images; the hat, the whip, the music.

Can't wait to hear the audiences reaction when they hear that tune and the camera just pans across the hat or something.

Everything I have heard makes me think the movie will be fresh yet classic.

If they get both of them extremes just right it will be an amazing film.

Maybe just call it the final Quest of Indiana Jones or something.