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Merrick Thinks The ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK Remake Script Is Surprisingly ESCAPE FROM NEW YORKish!!

Why? by bralli	Jun 29th, 2007 11:55:41 PM
What won't they remake?
They won't remake star wars by TheNorthlander	Jun 29th, 2007 11:57:23 PM
unfortunately.
Oh, I don't know... by bralli	Jun 30th, 2007 12:02:46 AM
I'd bet you anything that sometime in the next twenty years. They WILL remake Star Wars...
You forgot Assault on Precinct 13 by wash	Jun 30th, 2007 12:04:07 AM
This script sounds pretty good. And this is from someone who hasn't seen any of the Carpenter remakes yet. Ditto on the Verhoven recommendation.
Directed by Pietro Lechance by George Peppard	Jun 30th, 2007 12:06:19 AM
the hottest new video director of 2008. 170 million dollars later, it does pretty well in theaters, and is a big seller with fat guys at Target. 2 years later, nobody cares.
Sorry, Snake is like Indy to me. One actor and one only by Bronx Cheer	Jun 30th, 2007 12:09:16 AM
If it ain't Kurt, I don't want to see it. It'd be like using a Corvette to play the part of Herbie the Love Bug. Well, that's backwards, but I'm sure you get the point.
speaking of mad max by TheNorthlander	Jun 30th, 2007 12:13:22 AM
gerard butler would make a good Max now that Mel is out.
Clarence Dukemajian? by xavier masterson	Jun 30th, 2007 12:18:20 AM
How clever.
The Thing Remake sound good. by lost.rules	Jun 30th, 2007 12:22:54 AM
I trust Ron Moore. I dunno bout this one though.
George W. Bush is to blame for no MAD MAX 4!!! by moto	Jun 30th, 2007 12:41:26 AM
Not talking politics here really. But the MAD MAX: FURY ROAD was set to go, with Mel returning, but was then axed when the Iraq "war" started... due to inability to film in certain planned international locations and what not. This from the mouth of George Miller himself. DAMN YOU GEORGE W.!!!!
Sounds Much Better Then I Thought It Would by ChiTownsBest	Jun 30th, 2007 12:48:42 AM
I'm a huge fan of all the the early John Carpenter movies. This is a director who was on one hell of a roll for about 12 straight years. At his best he was all about entertaining the audience and Escape From New York did just that. Snake Plisken was a great character but I always felt that Escape From LA, while a guilty pleasure, was not a worthy sequel. Kurt did a great job, but let's not forget that even he admitted he was doing basically doing a Clint Eastwood impersonation. I like what Gerard Butler did in 300, but what I really like is that he seems to have some grittiness to his real-life personality. With the right director this could be a damn good movie and a great way to bring Snake back. I'm not sure I agree with the Paul Verhoven recommendation though. Robocop and Total Recall are 2 of the best action movies around but his style can be a little too over-the-top at times. He was pretty much making crap until Black Book which is one of the best movies I saw last year that nobody in America seems to know about. Escape From New York needs someone can combine the grittiness and action with a little commentary that isn't heavy handed. The unfortunate part is that there doesn't exactly seem to be a lot of great action directors right now. Outside of Zach Snyder, who's all wrong for this, I can't really think of an up-and-coming director who could make this movie the way it needs to be made(meaning nothing like that horrible Assault On Precinct 13 remake!!!).
whats the fucking point by DIBARAHMAN	Jun 30th, 2007 12:49:55 AM
in redoing it. why can't people just come up with new material ? soon there will be no new actors. the studios will just be rehashing dead people with pixar because its much safer to do so.
movies like this can be remade because . . . by aboriginal	Jun 30th, 2007 01:00:50 AM
the socio-politico deets are what always need to be commented on in this place we call a country. W/o movies like this the youngins don't get that bit'o politics that they need to see to show them where this place is goin'. Shit, Canada oughta build a wall with that intruder stopper from Lost all up and down. Robocop, EFNY, Blade Runner all point out that for the most part we're already there, now wake the fuck up.
CALL ME SNAKE!!!!! by ludmir88	Jun 30th, 2007 01:08:53 AM
OK...SNAKE... no Surfer Peter Fonda?
Wheres the Namco game? by WM6929	Jun 30th, 2007 01:30:17 AM
I'm still waiting for it. Plus the Snake Plisskin novels, and another comic series that Hurricane was working on.
btilc by El Borak	Jun 30th, 2007 01:57:43 AM
just finished watching my 15 year old recorded vhs copy of big trouble in little china. where the hell is that sequel? they could still do it! come on!
Sounds cool by TattooedBillionaire	Jun 30th, 2007 02:08:10 AM
I love the original, and I see no reason to remake it. However, I don't inherently hate remakes. I just wish they were good. So far, this one seems to be on the right track. It won't be Snake, though, without Kurt. They better give him a bad ass cameo at the very least.
A typical first draft. by MaxTheSilent	Jun 30th, 2007 02:25:16 AM
Which means that any and all good elements will be removed and re-written. No way on earth this thing will be R-rated.
They better use Alan Howarth music by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 02:35:37 AM
The music should be electronic vintage synth / drum machine based, not the orchestral shit used for EFLA. I agree with the review that setting up the war in Middle East is a VERY BAD MOVE. LENINGRAD IS THE SHIT. COLD, SNOW, is way more efficient on the screen, than sunny desert. They better change that, or this is gonna sucks period. BRING BACK THE LENINGRAD MYTHOLOGY.
Middle east is PUNISHER remake bad by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 02:47:31 AM
Yeah, the PUnisher remake from Johnatan Henseligh already used the middle east origin flash back thing in the extended edition, and as the reviewer says, it strips all mythology from Plissken character. LENINGRAD should be back.
Boo! by spectrebeeyatch	Jun 30th, 2007 02:48:42 AM
No Russel means no me in a seat. Download this beeyotch!!! Stop the remakes!!! Id' rather see sequels than remakes!
PS : by 2024, america will have nuked the middle east by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 03:04:20 AM
anyway, it as no relevance. Frank Miller and Georges Bush and Oliver North will nuke the middle east very soon, saying it was Sadam's fault that he built a nuclear weapon that accidentely went off when discovered by some youngsters playing. Bring back Leningrad.
Another pointless remake by Lord_Soth	Jun 30th, 2007 03:05:27 AM
As a remake I won't watch it. Give it a different title, change the story and the names a bit (I didn't read the script) and show as a brand new film we can bitch about how much it stole from EFNY. Remaking a classic, which still works, is disrespectful. If you had respect, you would clean up the original and bring back to the big screen. For those youngfuls who didn't see the original, the name EFNY doesn't mean shit, so they just don't care about that name. I do.
NAMCO GAME by Poloboy	Jun 30th, 2007 03:13:04 AM
I read somewhere that the Snake Plissken game was cancelled. They did come out with a 3 part comic book series though.
No it's good to remake this one only if... by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 03:32:02 AM
If it's better than the original : drop Plissken being wounded (it slows the movie down) and in fact, it would be better with a different structure. Let's act 1 being the Leningrad (fuck the middle east) origin, showing how Snake lost his eye, and how, conned by the US govt, he becomes an outlaw. End act one with the bank robbery. That's, like Casino Royale structure, 50 mn of film. Then act 2/3 is him doing the new york rescue thing compressed down (drop the fight in the arena, the wound, all that shit), finish with Plissken triggering WW3. Now, that's a movie I want to see, with the character having an arc. Flashbacks are shit, they detract from the main plot.
This sounds awesome. by mr. brownstone	Jun 30th, 2007 03:32:42 AM
lose the flashbacks and I'm there. I hate flashbacks.
Yeah damn right by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 04:11:17 AM
I wanna see the movie opening with Plissken and his rescue team infiltrating Leningrad with the gliders, taking the hostage back, only to discover they have been had by the US governement as their mission is a decoy. The are all killed while retreating, and Nerve gas is all over. Snakes googles crack on the left eye, and he his blinded. Still he manages to ESCAPE FROM LENINGRAD. He can't stand light from now on. Forced to wear the eyepatch. Snake confront his superiors, but is court martialed instead. Snake escapes, goes to see his parents, only to find their house have been confiscated by the US govt, and his parents killed by the United States police force as retribution. In rage, Snakes blows up a SWAT car with a molotov cocktail, kills all USPF he sees, and disappears. Montage : Snake's rampage have make the TV news saying Snake is still on the run, he is now hailed by the populace as a hero, tracked by blurry TV news footage. We follow his exploits in a montage. Snake is the ultimate anarchist, sabotaging everything he can in the USA, always making his escape uncaught. The TV says Snake may have been killed in Cleveland when a building was blown off by the USPF to track him. 200 civilians were killed, and they pin it on him, but Actually Snake is actually alive and escaped. People know the news are all fake. Making the bank robbery with his friend, Snake is caught. At the same time, the president's plane is hijacked. The country is going into chaos. Now, we switch to EFNY mode. Let's drop the fat from the original movie, and make the rest one hour of Plissken "I heard you were dead" trying to rescue the president while his clock timebomb tick. Drop all the CGI "dawn of the dead remake" crap, let's put the money where it needs to be, one hour of intense suspensful countdown as Snakes tries to make it before he is dead. Now, here's the damn movie I want to see, not some overblown CGI riddled remake ! if New Line wants to contact me for a rewrite, (yeah, I actually have some uncredited movie rewrites under my belt) email snakeplissken2024@hotmail.fr, I'll be happy to help :)
Harry Black Snake just turned into... by BirdMcMonster	Jun 30th, 2007 04:17:37 AM
Harry Mushed up by Prime's Innards. Awesome.
Escape From NY sequel by gakchat	Jun 30th, 2007 04:25:49 AM
For those of you who can't wait until this remake comes out, seek out "Banlieau 13" (or also known as "B13"), it is an unofficial french sequel or remake of EFNY, and not a bad one to boot! Quite possibly the BEST ACTION MOVIE I saw last year. The stunts are AMAZING.
Namco Game by AvonBarksdale	Jun 30th, 2007 04:29:18 AM
The Namco game was canceled. As were the novels. Both of them were going to jump all around the timeline. The Battle of Lenningrad. How Snake lost his eye. What happened during the 17 years between New York and LA. The Anime was being done by Production IG who did Ghost in the Shell and the anime sequence in Kill Bill. That was going to take place after the events in Escape from LA. Kurt Russell was going to lend his voice and likeness and John Carpenter was going to provide music. Unfortunately everything seemed to have stopped when Debra Hill passed away. It would have been cool. The comics did come out as a 4 part series that took place the day after Escape from New York in Atlantic City. Unfortunately those we're published by Crossgen who went out of business so I doubt there will be any more.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! by datachasm	Jun 30th, 2007 04:59:31 AM
i think a 3D animated series or movie sounds WAY better than this remake. a remake will clearly kill the series, at least as we know it. Snake will be this new guy and whatever he does with the character, good or bad. we will NEVER see a 2nd sequel to the original... we will not even be able to hope it will happen! i think the whole deal sounds retarded... why EFNY? why not an original work INSPIRED by EFNY? asswipes!!!
Don´t even try to sell me this shite by CuervoJones	Jun 30th, 2007 05:03:47 AM
I´m not buying a remake of this film. Snake Plissken = Kurt Russell. Enough of bullshit.
Now they'll cast Shitia la Boof as Snake Junior... by JackPumpkinhead	Jun 30th, 2007 05:04:57 AM
So that he takes the mantle from Snake and has many new (PG-13) adventures after the two sequels to this remake.
Call me GUNSHOT by CuervoJones	Jun 30th, 2007 05:09:40 AM
GUNSHOT anyone who did not like Escape from LA. That movie was a cool satire.
This will be bullshit by UltraMeerkat	Jun 30th, 2007 05:15:29 AM
we all know that however good the script is, the final product will not be as good! Why? The usual suspects will step in to tone done the content, remove anything radical and maximize the viewing appeal. Expect PG-13 people.
Maybe... maybe not by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 06:44:21 AM
Let's face it, Kurt created the character with Carpenter and Castle, we now live in another world. As with many Carpenter movies, the promise / premise is better than the actual final product. Don't get me wrong, I did Carpenter early stuff, but they all had great ideas that somehow lost their focus, until the climax made it worthy. Assault is his best movie anyway. Now, having seen the worthless Assault remake, waiting to see the H1 remake, I can understand why you feel frustrated. And reading the script report, I can understand your fear. They only miss Zack Snyder to make it GUNSHOT. Let them hire me instead, I'll fight for the remake integrity tooth and nail snakeplissken2024@hotmail.fr
EFLA was the first EFNY remake by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 07:40:56 AM
I did kind of have a soft spot for EFLA, apart from the awful music and the fact that snake fights are unlike the real snake (the real snake only need to hit you once, he doesn't get engaged into endless fistfights, like a cobra, he strikes once, and you're either KO or dead). Also EFLA fails in regard to the gunfire, trying to be Terminator like, when Snake only uses silencers and is directly lethal with one shot. The surgeron general sequence was fine, but they didn't film the gunfight when Snake is mowing them down before going in the severs. They are hundreds of badly done things in EFLA, and some really good things also. The point is, Carpenter and Russel already did remake their great first movie, and it failed. So we don't need a straight, CGI ridden remake, we need as Carpenter as stated in interviews, a real origin story, incorporating the EFNY storyline, ie something different, that like CR or BB restart the franchise for more than one movie. Anyway the point is, the script as reviewed above makes up "modernisation", with overblown decapitations, armies of people killed etc... let's face it, Snake could never witness all this, all he cares about is his mission. The should stick with his point of view while he is there, and make it slicker. Since it will be rated PG13 anyway, all this useless CGI killings should begone. About the middle east thing, it's already part of Snake's world, as the war originally started from the middle east. The point is, this war got all the three big nations (europe, russia, america) at war with each other, and the president is on his way to a peace summit to threaten worlwide annihilation unless the other two comply. It's important in this era of Bush and fake elections, to show the president a a complete bastard (like the real US president is). That's why we need another Plissken movie, not so see some CGI armies getting killed, or to slavishly copy the original (which has no point), but to make america face their future with a clever, intelligent, fast paced, nightmarish, action ridden flick that will send nerds in hardon frenzy. Remember when McClane turned around, and "I hate niggers" was painted on his board ? The whole theater cheered, the white, the blacks, everybody had a grin up to the ears. That's the kind of Plissken movie we need now, not some Rob Zombie overblown bombastic noisy nothing with gore.
great news Merrick & solid opinions! listen to Merrick by pipergates	Jun 30th, 2007 07:47:38 AM
give it to Tarantino please
PS : I'm cheaper than Nolan by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 07:47:40 AM
I don't know how much they paid Nolan to copy cut the original script from the internet and make up his new script with 50% only new stuff, but anyway I'm cheaper, and I have more original ideas. Please New Line snakeplissken2024@hotmail.fr and remember the good things in the Assault remake, came from french writers.
Will Ferrell as Bush the evil idiot president by pipergates	Jun 30th, 2007 07:57:07 AM
trapped in N.Y...
hahaha by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 08:03:38 AM
Excellent ! "We have the Nucular weapons"
TOO SOON FOR THIS!!! by classyfredblassy	Jun 30th, 2007 08:28:21 AM
Unless it stars Shia LarBarf, Jason Biggs, Tara Reid, and is directed by Tim Story. Then it would be ok.
"The Thing" WAS a remake by Gorrister	Jun 30th, 2007 08:38:04 AM
So it's a bit hypocritical to preach against anyone doing a 'remake' of a remake of "The Thing From Another World". Otherwise, I agree with the article. I am almost always against remakes. Occassionally, you'll find a remake of a bad movie that is done very, very well. But, in general, I think even attempting to remake an original movie is like shouting to the world, "I can do this movie better than the original crew did." In reality, all it says is, "I have no creativity, so I have to steal someone elses idea."
Snakes on a film... by HessenRoots	Jun 30th, 2007 08:48:39 AM
How about they DON'T remake Escape from New York (to hell with acronyms) and they go ahead with a filmitization of Metal Gear Solid? There's enough backstory, plot and pseudo-development of characters in place to make a great action flick, should the right people be attached.
“…Welcome to the Human Race” by Evil Chicken	Jun 30th, 2007 08:53:23 AM
I’m with Merrick on this one. I never thought I’d say it about a John Carpenter remake but this project cannot happen soon enough for me. By gum, I like things embiggened sometimes. * Godspeed Mr. Siegle *
"criticisms of the United States & its place..." by genro	Jun 30th, 2007 08:55:04 AM
I'm out. I knew this was a driving force, but neither writer or producer had the balls to admit it. Fuck them.
Why you don't like your country ? by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 09:12:56 AM
Anyone caring about living in american, should realise it's time to react. Your president sent two planes crashing into the WTC, for god sake, and then blamed Al Quaeda just so that he could declare war. It's time to wake. We need Snake back.
Casting by Randall Flagg	Jun 30th, 2007 09:30:11 AM
Michael Clarke Duncan as The Duke of New York? Or would that be too Kingpin-ish for him? And since Malcolm McDowell is already taking on one Donald Pleasance role in a Carpenter remake, he might as well play the President in this.
Ok two things by chrth	Jun 30th, 2007 09:34:39 AM
One: Doesn't the extensions to the original sound like they're turning it into 24: The Movie? Conspiracy against the President? Hey, how about Powers Boothe? Two: "Ever wonder what it would look like if well-outfitted Government Forces clashed with thousands of armed inmates on the streets of NYC?" -- I don't really have to wonder, because Children of Men did something similar. Now, it'd be interesting if someone else besides Cuaron directed and provided a differing POV (and removed the blood from the camera lens), but it has been done, imo.
Also, the new animation is a ripoff of Clerks: Animated by chrth	Jun 30th, 2007 09:37:36 AM
Although I guess it's probable KS ripped it off of something else.
if they don't say "I heard you were dead"... by Charlie Murphy	Jun 30th, 2007 09:37:42 AM
what do they say? I have to know!
Charlie Murphy: The new line is "I heard you're drinkin by chrth	Jun 30th, 2007 09:38:26 AM
now!"
Doh, let me try that again. The line is by chrth	Jun 30th, 2007 09:40:21 AM
I heard you're drinking product placement now!
I'm not totally against remakes, so EFNY could be good. by Orbots Commander	Jun 30th, 2007 09:43:59 AM
Hey, remakes have been around since the ancient Greeks staged plays. Nearly all of Shakespeare's plays were remakes of previously existing works, including other plays. Even golden age Hollywood was remake happy; the Maltese Falcon was remade a couple of times up until they got it right with the Bogart version.
Remember by Pandas-R-Us	Jun 30th, 2007 09:49:34 AM
It will probably by PG-13 so the new line is "I heard you were mildly injured"
I heard your were rated PG-13 by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 10:07:23 AM
That will be the line
so few good remakes by BurgerKing	Jun 30th, 2007 10:49:09 AM
Because no matter how you look at it, remakes are unnecessary. If they are carbon copies of the original, why bother? If they are too different, they ruin the image of the original... Dawn of the Dead was a good remake because it had the same feel but had it's own significant differences. It was very different and very much the same, which is why it was great unlike most remakes. As with King Kong, no matter what you think of it, it was acceptable because of the new CGI that was capable to reimagine the story. Don't know about this one though, I'm not sure there's a whole lot they can do to make it fresh and new but still loyal...
Halloween, The Thing, Escape from New York, by Yeti	Jun 30th, 2007 11:03:51 AM
What's next? A remake of Vampires? Or is it too soon?
First by dogstar69	Jun 30th, 2007 11:18:14 AM
D'oh
No, a remake of Dark Star by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 11:19:40 AM
It will be call Alien. Wait...
captivity! by blacklodgebob	Jun 30th, 2007 11:21:20 AM
I cannot believe you guys have Captivity ads on the site after Harry's rant about the ad campaign!
Carpenter and Kurt are ready to go. by Quake II	Jun 30th, 2007 11:30:42 AM
Why bring in new talent? Escape From LA had its moments but it was just too tame overall. There was no real "Ooomf!" (graphic violence). Carpenter owns the character of Snake and if this movie sucks ass, he's partially to blame for being a complete sell-out.
Punisher's Middle East made sense by liljuniorbrown	Jun 30th, 2007 11:31:28 AM
If not it would have to have been set in the 1980's (not opposed to that) to have been a veteran of Vietnam. I agree though that if this script changes a few things (The apparent bad conclusion and middle east conflict refferences) we could have an awesome flick. Hell,give it to Cronenberg, he did great with A History of Violence,and he can add that unpolished 80's feel to it. He might be too visceral, as long as it dosen't go to anyone with the initial's W.S we're ok.
"I heard you were gay" by kafka07	Jun 30th, 2007 11:31:38 AM
"I heard you were someone's bitch in prison"
I call Bullshit!! by picardsucks	Jun 30th, 2007 11:33:30 AM
Yeah!!! Another heavy handed movie about how horrible we are as a nation and people!!! Sweet!!!! Another remake of a movie that does not need to be remade!!!!!!! Can't wait!!!!!! Let's rush out and give them our money now, why wait, so they can film extra scenes of how selfish and stupid we dumb American's are!!!!!! And can't wait to see a movie with a plane being hijacked and crashing into New York skyscrapers!!!!! Best part is our hollywood actors are made up of such effiminate, MTV TRL,scrawney, pussies that once again we have to go overseas to find the equivilant of an American 80's action star!!!! Can't wait!!!!! And more CGI over the top expolsions, in your face action, thats what the original needed!!! Yeah that subtle terror with ample doses of great action in the original was way off!! More loud explosions more in our face, less restraint with scarry payoffs!!! Watch Escape from NY again and tell me there is any reason what so ever that it needs to be remade!!!! Bullshit!!
No Cabbie is nipple flames on raped gotta eat by Rantman	Jun 30th, 2007 11:36:47 AM
and what's the replacement for the cassette? do we have snake passing a magnet over an mp3 player?
No Maggie character??? by And Nicolas Cage as Fu Manchu	Jun 30th, 2007 11:46:46 AM
But where will we get our dose of exquisitely oversized breasts? Too many action movie females with small breasts lately. It's disappointing.
Kurt is Snake by abcdefghijklmnop	Jun 30th, 2007 11:52:20 AM
They should just give Kurt all the advantages that they are thinking of giving this remake (ie. decent budget). He's willing to do another film, and his attachment would automatically lend the film credibility with fans. Also, it's not as though he would require a massive salary or would be opposed to sequels. Fuck these boring remakes. The idea of copying a 20+ year old film isn't interesting. Let's see some more "further adventures" of these characters ala Indy/Rambo 4.
I agree with Nicholas Cage by stamper	Jun 30th, 2007 11:59:00 AM
If I get the writing assignment from New Line, I'll bring the most esquisite oversized breast out there in LA to star in the filming. Casting couch tonight at 10.
Why remake this? by jimmy_009	Jun 30th, 2007 11:59:05 AM
I mean, give me one good reason this should be made?
FUCK NO FUCK NO FUCK NO by TheHorror	Jun 30th, 2007 12:15:48 PM
NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO NONONONONONONONONONO......NONO NONONONONNONONONONONONONONONON ONO! Next they'll remake the hitcher!...What? NOPNONONONONONONONO!!!
Have any of the Carpenter remakes made any money? by skimn	Jun 30th, 2007 01:12:39 PM
Not that I can recall. New Line's hiring Butler cause he is still cheap I'm sure, and based on the selling point of 300. The original was pretty low budget for the scope and cast involved. They'll probably hire that director that did The Nest ( a nifty Assualt on 13 premise ), and that meh Hostage with Bruce Willis. Again, to save money. Any thought of bringing in an A-list director is simply out of the equation.
neither of merrick's crieteria fit The Fly by troutpencil	Jun 30th, 2007 02:00:16 PM
Surely Cronenberg "understood" the original, and surely they couldn't do the effects in the remake in the 50s, but those lameass criteria don't fit. Cronenberg and writers took the concept, made a completely different movie, made one both more technically advanced and simply better than the original. Seriously, I would rather see a completely different take on a concept in a remake than the same scenes repeated, the same movie with added shit. Merrick's dumbass two criteria could be said to apply to all of the worst remakes too.
THIS IS NEW YORK, AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! by Doc_Strange	Jun 30th, 2007 02:15:54 PM
Butler is forever going to be associated with unnecessary hollering. I'm sorry but 300 sucked because of it.
Kurt Russell isn't laughing! by buffywrestling	Jun 30th, 2007 02:22:46 PM
Damn, that butler has pretty eyes. Shame that he'll have to lose one.
They already remade Star Wars by Wingnut1A	Jun 30th, 2007 03:37:57 PM
and called it Eragon
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! by Wonko The Sane	Jun 30th, 2007 03:39:36 PM
-W.T.S....
I'm kinda excited by Wingnut1A	Jun 30th, 2007 03:40:15 PM
about this new project, I just hope they dont screw it up. Also, I hope they give us a little more info about Fresno Bob.
I was reading this script and I looked over by ImFixingtoDie	Jun 30th, 2007 04:17:12 PM
And Kurt Russell was laughing, so it must be okay. Wonder if they could make him the President? Would he have to kill himself after that?
This could kick ass with Butler. by Darksider	Jun 30th, 2007 04:35:12 PM
I can't imagine anyone else really. I wonder if Kurt Russell would make any appearance as the Police Commissioner or something.
Isn't it still produced by the Fast and the Furious guy by Neo Zeed	Jun 30th, 2007 04:36:58 PM
That hack of a producer is responsible for XXX2, Tokyo Drift, 2 fast 2 furious, Stealth, and Torque. Do I wanna see Snake riding around in a car going so fast he turns into a CGI blob. No! Do I wanna see a PG-13 Escape from New York, with a nu-metal soundtrack? Hell no!
Fuck this remake to hell! by Lornsorrow	Jun 30th, 2007 06:14:39 PM
Snake Plissken = Kurt Russell. To try and remake this film at all shows NO FUCKING RESPECT! Some things don't deserve to be remade! Hey, let's remake The Godfather, or, The Shootist (Will Smith can play John Wayne dying of cancer) blah, blah, blah, BULLSHIT! Some people will never learn that some characters are stamped forever with the actors that made them, made them their own. Indiana Jones IS Harrison Ford, Snake Plissken IS Kurt Russell. The Beatles are who they are and anything else is a cover/tribute band. There is nothing wrong with cover/tribute bands, because they are not stupid enough and disrespectful enough to pretend to be the real thing. Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake! Fuck This Remake!
NO MAGGIE?!?!? FK that ST!!!! by Missing Dink	Jun 30th, 2007 07:07:17 PM
Both female characters removed. More men added. Sounds pretty homosexual to me. I'll watch my dvd, thanks.
no more leguizamo by wimps pimps psychos and sexfiends	Jun 30th, 2007 07:33:01 PM
That little fuck ruins every movie he's in.
I am going to have say I am not intersted. Only 1 Snake by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jun 30th, 2007 08:54:43 PM
I agree with the person who said only one person can play Snake. Kurt Russell is Snake and it's just a cheap easy way for Hollywood once again to make another dollar on something that was awesome because it was original because they've run out of good ideas. Truly sad. Going forward this will now be know as EINO... Escape In Name Only.
yeah, but didnt merrick give the die hard 4 script by misnomer	Jun 30th, 2007 08:59:53 PM
a thumbs up? New Line will fuck this up. Plus, I'll always have a hard spot for Kurt Russell in this role.
Have Dwayne Johnson play Ash in the new Evil Dead by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jun 30th, 2007 09:00:54 PM
after all that's going to be remade too. Who else could play Ash but The Rock. That's going to be remade as well and that would be the only person who could play Ash but still it doesn't need to be remade. Just like EINO does not need to be remade. It's pointless. Just do an re-release that is remastered of these classics. What's next? Star Wars? Then there's Goodfellas, yeah lets remake Goodfellas and don't forget the Godfather while we're at. Good lord that films been out long enough that it's time for a remake. But who will play the Don? How about Alan Thicke? Yeah he'd be a good choice. Fuck remakes.
I MUST SAY I"M NOT PLEASED. by Neo Con Snake Plissken	Jun 30th, 2007 09:12:18 PM
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I MUST SAY AGAIN... by Neo Con Snake Plissken	Jun 30th, 2007 09:34:40 PM
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Sounds gay. by Schih Thayde	Jun 30th, 2007 09:37:39 PM
What's the point, fairies?
SOUNDS GREAT by The Grey Ghost	Jun 30th, 2007 09:42:10 PM
Now let's hand this bad boy over to Michael Bay. Post haste!
I actually can't believe they'd spring for all those FX by Spandau Belly	Jun 30th, 2007 09:42:36 PM
I mean, this is a cult property. This script sounds like Waterworld, which tried to remake Mad Max with the budget of Titanic, only there was no way a post-apocalyptic bad ass story would ever have enough appeal to make back that kind of money. I doubt all this visual stuff with hundreds of extras will actually get approval. However it's sweet of these screenwriters to dream and aim big.
and yeah, fuck this anti-Bush anti-Iraq/Afganistan shit by Spandau Belly	Jun 30th, 2007 09:51:40 PM
I realize you Americans are having a really hard time accepting Bush and his policies but for fuck's sake, the guy's term is almost up he'll be gone soon. But every time you watch a movie or listen to an album released during his reign you'll be reminded of him and all the artists who tried to cash in on anti-Bush sentiment! Also, the rest of the world loves Snake Plisken and wants a movie we can relate to about simple internationally relatable badassedness. I didn't vote for Bush. He's not my president. My country's army isn't in Iraq. I don't give a fuck! Leave this shit to George Clooney so I know not to see it. Don't smuggle your domestic political debates out in the trojan horse of Snake Plissken movie.
1982 Release? by REDD	Jun 30th, 2007 11:10:45 PM
It was released in 1981.
I don't compare EFNY to Road Warrior.. by Tarl_Cabot	Jun 30th, 2007 11:30:53 PM
EFNY is fair game for a remake(RR is not bc it is perfect) and I think J-Butler could be a badass Snake Plissken...but, they gotta keep it Hard R or they can piss off. And why not make a movie called "Snake Plissken" and the sequl can be EfNY. If you're going for the big dollars do it right dammit!
WRITE YOUR OWN MOVIE! by George Peppard	Jul 1st, 2007 12:16:18 AM
At least try, whore.
New Line email snakeplissken2024@hotmail.fr by stamper	Jul 1st, 2007 02:23:19 AM
I'm going to save this movie arse ! Russell will be hired as the president, it's going to be to the original what John Carpenter The Thing was to the original ! New Liner people email snakeplissken2024@hotmail.fr I'll get the french guy who did the nest to direct guaranteed
I've always thought Snake Plisken was a great character by PacmanFever	Jul 1st, 2007 02:51:04 AM
But I found both of the movies to be pretty average. In my view the character hasn't realised his full potential. However, I believe that potential would stand a better chance of being fulfilled in a Russell/Carpenter Escape From Earth, than a presumably generic remake starring whatshisface.
Oh and by PacmanFever	Jul 1st, 2007 02:54:14 AM
That Carpenter synthesizer melody is the best thing about this franchise.
Spandau Belly by TheNorthlander	Jul 1st, 2007 04:33:43 AM
Waterworld had a lot more problems than being post apocalyptic. Kevin Costner trying to be Mel Gibson was one of them. The other was a much weaker script and director than The Road Warrior. If the movie had been better (and more original instead of a ripoff) I'm sure it would have been more popular also.
so its just like the original by slappy jones	Jul 1st, 2007 06:47:26 AM
only not at all?
Neo-Con whatever blah arsehole guy by Ray Gamma	Jul 1st, 2007 06:53:41 AM
It is idiotic, ignorant, brainwashed, moronic, tunnel-visioned, bile-spraying jingoist American cunts like you that make so many of us outside the USA suspicious and hateful of "America".
THIS....IS....MANHATTAN!!! by BetaRayBill07	Jul 1st, 2007 09:48:41 AM
Well since we all know Punisher 2 is gonna blow, maybe this and John Rambo will make adequate substitutes?!
I agree with you TheNorthlander and Memories-Of-Murder by Spandau Belly	Jul 1st, 2007 09:50:43 AM
Waterworld was a crappy movie. As a fan of post-apocalyptic badass movies such as Mad Max and The Omega Man, I was in what these suits call "the target demographic" and still thought it was crappy. But you have to agree with me that movies like Mad Max, 12 Monkeys, The Omega Man are never going to have the huge mainstream appeal of generic action movies about cops and terrorists or whatever. They may turn profit, and I'll keep loving them, but the suits know not to splash out for huge sets and FX like suggested in this script because they know films in this genre will rarely do that well. I just hope that they go for quality over quantity and if they can't afford to do all these scenes well, then cut them instead of springing for cheapy CG. And yeah Memories, I liked the original EFNY but did always want to see more of this interesting world. And for me also, this film could go either way. I realize a lot of the talkbackers on here hold this film sacred, and that's fine, but I guess seeing as I have frequently imagined other parts of this future it will be interesting to see somebody else approach this materiel. But this fucking bullshit about disillusionment over Middle East conflicts has got to fucking go! It'll be dated by next week. Might as well throw in some Bill Clinton blowjob jokes and a Judge Ito reference while you're at it. Sheesh.
Why not DMZ? by Bangforabuck	Jul 1st, 2007 11:06:47 AM
If the studio is so hell-bent on a movie about a down and out NYC living in anarchy, why not a new property? There is a wonderful comic book by Brian Wood called "DMZ" that takes place during a modern US Civil War where both sides of the conflict are sitting on opposite sides of Manhattan Island. People stuck in the middle and all of that. It has great action, great political commentary and potential for a franchise, if a studio is looking for it. Dang. Get Spike to direct it and we are off and running. The bastards. Leave EFNY alone.
Mr. Magork's Escape From New York by ciroslive	Jul 1st, 2007 11:22:28 AM
Jason Bateman IS Snake Plissken!!!
Plissken is not liberal or conservative by stamper	Jul 1st, 2007 02:05:15 PM
He is against everything.
Talks it up pretty well, just hope it delivers... by KillaKane	Jul 1st, 2007 02:22:25 PM
No mention of music, would'nt be EFNY is they did'nt use Carpenter/Howarth's theme and refer to some of that great synth music and go for that desolate analogue vibe of the original score. The jacked up scale, scenario tweaks sound impressive, time will tell if it all lives up to the hyperbole. I'm still finding it hard to hear Butler rasping like Kurt Russel doing Clint, I don't think he can sound like anything other than a Scotsman! His broague fit 300, but it's tough act to fill Russel's shoes (they should'nt deviate from his 'don't give a fuck' nihilism and terse attitude to 'da man'). I'm excited, but I still have reservations, we've been down this Carpenter remake road before with some pretty lack lustre results (inspite of similar pre-prod evangelism and vows of reverence to the core source material). As for the likes of Miller and Verhoven helming, that would instill a shitload more confidence amongst many of the geek brethren, good call there Merrick.
Only an Aussie for Max surely! Get Eric Bana or Crowe by KillaKane	Jul 1st, 2007 02:31:02 PM
a proper hairy arsed Aussie/Kiwi not some poncey L.A flavour of the month (I mean Paul fucking Walker, c'mon)
Gerard Butler, get the fuck away from EfNY! by Luke_Cage	Jul 1st, 2007 02:41:56 PM
Your sub-panto-school of acting is not needed. Word
Meh...they'll probably give it to Tim Story by Neo Zeed	Jul 1st, 2007 02:48:17 PM
or Len Wiseman. Or DJ Caruso. Or how about that dude who did Stomp the Yard (isn't he directing every fanboy project these days?) You think the suits even remember who Verheoven is? These pricks only give jobs to people who had a hit last week. Or at least some indie director they can push around. It's WAY too easy to play armchair producer these days.
They should stop while they're ahead by Neo Zeed	Jul 1st, 2007 02:52:25 PM
It'll be Pg-13 no doubt.
zbobroberts by TheNorthlander	Jul 1st, 2007 05:19:23 PM
Then you should watch a little movie called Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior for comparrison, and you'll see what the fuzz is.
Spandau by TheNorthlander	Jul 1st, 2007 05:23:41 PM
Yeah well that subgenre is a bit like horror movies in the way that it has a narrow but faithful audience. Although just like horror movies, if there's one made that is really, really good and has a wide appeal it could still sell. It's happened before with space movies and fantasy movies. But anyway, post apocalyptics tend to be better on a lower budget because without large sweeping crane shots and CGI they look more real.
The idea that New York would be abandoned by wintocha67	Jul 1st, 2007 05:37:47 PM
To be made into a prison is ludicrous considering the economic losses. If it was somehow rendered unlivable by radiation or biological agents it would be too cruel to put criminals there. Or if it was filled with rage infected zombies it'd be cruel not to nuke it.
wintocha67 by TheNorthlander	Jul 1st, 2007 06:22:47 PM
you're right - let's not make the movie afterall.
Escape from remakes by thegreatwhatzit	Jul 1st, 2007 06:53:38 PM
I detest all remakes but this one is especially gratuitous; ditto a THING remake, which will be a patchwork of CGI. By the way, Kurt Russell made a cameo at the conclusion of THE THING video game (pretty certain it was his voice).
thegreatwhatzit by TheNorthlander	Jul 1st, 2007 07:11:12 PM
how can you say you detest all remakes including a Thing remake? The Thing IS a remake! Argh. MY HEAD A SPLODE.
FUCK IT!! by Lornsorrow	Jul 1st, 2007 08:53:59 PM
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Carpenter's THING: not a remake by thegreatwhatzit	Jul 1st, 2007 09:44:11 PM
Nope, not even close. The '51 version is a character-driven melodrama (other variables: significant female role, zip f/x). The Carpenter translation is modern Grand Guignol, an abstract nightmare. The only thing both films have in common is the source material ("Who Goes There?"). By the way, George Clooney--approx. 8 years ago--proposed a "live" TV drama based on the same story. Apparently, he copped out.
Arnie should play Plissken by stamper	Jul 2nd, 2007 12:02:21 AM
Just kidding
EFNY Alternate universe by thevision	Jul 2nd, 2007 12:32:00 AM
The bleak dystopian future has become a cliche'. EFNY should be NOW- an alternate timeline. Soviet Union struggled on to the late 1990s supporting Middle East dictatorships or whatever, no Gulf War, but WW3 with limited Nuclear Exchange in 1997 or so. Revolution and civil war in Soviet Union cause collapse of communist regime, US invades thats why Snake was in Leningrad and Siberia. Pyrrhic victory for USA because missles did hit US in the limited nuclear war causing anarchy among the populace, major cities are walled off and turned into prisons. The present day is no golden age of mankind but Snake Plissken's alternate universe is really fucked up!
get JOSH HOLLOWAY, not Butler by lynxpro	Jul 2nd, 2007 02:02:26 AM
If any actor should get to take over from Russell in this iconic role, it should be Josh Holloway...not Butler. Butler was great in 300 but I don't think he's the right choice here. Then again, what do I know. They'll probably give the role to Heath Ledger anyway.
Thanks, Ain't It Cool News by Franklin T Marmoset	Jul 2nd, 2007 04:50:45 AM
I'm fascinated to see how this one turns out. The story itself is ripe for remaking, and it seems like there's all sorts of great potential there. It's a bit of shame to hear they're being so slavish to the original, though. That's been done, and done well, so why not try something different? I have two big reservations about how well this one does. One is that Kurt Russell's shoes are going to be very hard to fill. He owns that role, and taking it over is going to be like taking over Indiana Jones or The Dude or Dirty Harry. The other is that is hate backstory, and it sounds from this review that they're going to throw a bunch of that in. I still have my fingers crossed, though. Like I say, it has potential. Mind you, isn't that Neal H Moritz guy involved? That doesn't bode well.
ThePilgrim by Ray Gamma	Jul 2nd, 2007 06:38:34 AM
you need a Mogadon or something?
No chicks ??? by stamper	Jul 2nd, 2007 08:13:40 AM
No Adrienne Barbeau or Season Hubley ? I can hear from here the -99,99% box office crash.
Next the studio will erase the original ? by stamper	Jul 2nd, 2007 08:15:34 AM
Just like the superior Punisher flick from 1989, they will delete the DVD of the original and it will never be reissued. By fear of people realising it's better. Count on that.
Anachronistic Historical Details = Teh Suck! by DirkBelig	Jul 2nd, 2007 02:19:13 PM
Haven't filmmakers learned that trying to comment on the political landscape at the time of their film's making gives it the shelf life of milk on a warm window sill?!? Can't they look at the hash "V For Vapidity" was by the time the Wahackski Bros were done shoehorning in anti-Bush allegories? Can't they just stick with the story or come up with a non-specific bogeyman or is expecting creativity from the supposed creators too much to hope for? Whenever I see a ham-handed attempt to cram some anachronistic commentary into a film, all I can do is flashback to "2010" which was totally weighed down by circa 1984 Cold War-era Hollyweird paranoia that Evil AmeriKKKa was going to pester those nice folks in the Soviet Union into a war over Central America. The whole film was premised on the idea that the world of 1984 was going to be totally unchanged a quarter-century later. Too bad that the Berlin Wall fell five years later and the Warsaw Pact shortly thereafter. If you want to see brilliant and prescient screenwriting in action, go and watch "Network". Awesome in its own time, in the Eighties it was just as relevant by substituting "Japanese" for "Arabs" and today it's current as written. The uprising against the recent Dubai Ports deal and the shamnesty proposal last week mirrors the scene in "Network" in which Howard Beale gets his viewers to send telegrams to the White House.
Maybe something good can come of this...... by jamazio	Jul 3rd, 2007 08:00:40 AM
....like johnny the carpenter might get a second chance of a comeback. He deserves one and 'cigarette burns' was definetly a return to form. I think he's the director whose films have had the most remakes- halloween, the fog, assault on precinct 13, escape from new york and also the thing. This just proves he was such a great creator. the fog was rubbish tho but even so producers may think 'hang on...' and give him a second chance- he deserves it. Also non fans may go back to his earlier stuff and think 'fuck me, carpenter was a great director'.
"I Heard It Was An Eye You Lost" by Diana Rules!	Jul 3rd, 2007 03:16:28 PM
Or even better..."I heard you lost it in a bar fight," with 6 variations throughout the movie.
Willing to give it a chance by fuzzyrock	Jul 3rd, 2007 08:10:25 PM
I'll never understand you fanboys love of Paul Verhoeven but to each his own. I like what I read about the script and the director is the key. Need someone who will be faithful to the original source material like the director who did T-3. I would be curious to know how the glider comes into play without the twin towers and how they plan to approach the future of NYC with the space that is currently empty. I do think Snake should remain mystery. I always believe less is more and leave something to our imagination when it comes to Snake.
He glides in and lands on top of the..... by Seph_J	Jul 5th, 2007 01:30:22 AM
....errr... shit.
Augmentation example could go either way by The Moseph	Jul 5th, 2007 05:03:20 PM
Sounds a lot better at this stage than I expected. There's only one little thing... Merrick, you mentioned how they're so far planning to augment stuff from the original and you used the "you now have the option to terminate" announcement from the original as an example indicating there's a scene in the new version where we actually see the 'option'. Well, that could end up just as dorky as it could end up cool. Escape From L.A. used a similar idea showing prisoners/undesirables being given the chair and it was done (as was the rest of the movie) in a most uncool and silly way. (I believe as you do, Carpenter's older films are the creme de la creme--the later stuff is a mixed bag of, unfortunately, mostly crap de la crap.) I absolutely LOVE the original EFNY. It's one of my top ten fav's of all time. If there's to be a remake, I can only hope and pray it's done as you say the script at this point is...respectful and cool as hell.
Call Kurt Snake by TaskFDX	Jul 6th, 2007 12:02:16 AM
He's the only one. Period. I'd rather see a new Escape film featuring an older Snake, ala the Indy 4 premise, than take even the most remote chance that someone will totally blow one of my favorite films, and characters, of all time.
T3 faithful to the original?? by TaskFDX	Jul 6th, 2007 12:07:46 AM
Sorry for the double post, but I just couldn't stay silent after I belatedly read fuzzy's post that used T3 as an example of staying true to the original source material. Huh? T3 completely sucked, imho, because it totally betrayed the theme of the original "There is no fate but what we make.......but no matter what you do "Judgement Day" is gonna happen." Faithful?? Wtf??
EFNY Remake by grendel69	Jul 6th, 2007 07:42:10 AM
I really dont like the idea of this film being remade, but at least it seems theyre doing it with with some vision. Compare this to hack Zombie whos just amping up the gore,sleeze,hicks and tits - it at least sounds interesting. This was something I was totally against that Im now taking a sit back and wait look at. Hopefully they wont pussy out and soften it up and it needs the right director. Where Snake land and plan to get out in this version?
I am willing to bet.... by Uridium	Jul 6th, 2007 08:41:13 AM
...that there is a flashback showing how he lost his eye. They always have to take any unexplained piece and create a backstory for it. Look at the crapfest starwars 1-3... These idealess a-holes grab at anything to fill out a story.
The eye lost by stamper	Jul 6th, 2007 10:03:43 AM
Is in the original script / novelisation, you betcha they should include it !
what 'em so long? by RAWHEAD RALF	Jul 7th, 2007 05:23:24 PM
...it's about time they used the property for more material. having recently seen elvis, rather, kurt russel play stuntman mike looked to me like he's got a few more rounds of plissken in 'im too. russell cameo...
Please No Liberal Agenda by Virdon	Jul 8th, 2007 06:33:41 AM
I am so sick and tired of genre movies shoving the stupid leftist hollywierd world view down our throats over and over again. Why can't they resist the temptation to piss off 65% of the viewing audience who might not agree with their fruitcake, wussy world view? Enough already.
I Have a Great IDEA!!! by JOHNCONNORS_FORESKIN_CAMEO	Jun 18th, 2008 02:55:29 PM
Why don't they just nuke NY city in the first act, and then... they have to go and send in a terminator with Pliskeen's skin atached to the metal body in a 70's fashion, And then kill a bunch of predators, and rescue some little girl that actually is a little predator in disguise. That would rule!

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