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Quint aims at DIE HARD 4 and pulls the (gunshot) trigger till it goes click!!

Thank God for Quint by Birdys Piano Teacher	Jun 26th, 2007 11:59:50 PM
Nice, unbiased review. I still might see it, but it depends on how bored I am in the next week or two.
Wow, all the Willis Promo and you guys still panned it? by THX5334	Jun 27th, 2007 12:00:31 AM
Maybe you do have some journalistic integrity.
Where is Walter B now? by I Hate Movies	Jun 27th, 2007 12:01:00 AM
Come on Bruce, try and refute this! What, too busy trying not to think about the fact that ASHTON IS LAUGHING ABOUT YOU EVERY SINGLE NIGHT???
First...4.D'Oh! by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:01:34 AM
Like the great Woody Allen Line from Annie Hall. He talks about the old ladies commenting on a resturant they're at. 'The fooods lousy...and such small portions too!' 4.0 let's us down...it's sad. I'm sad, you're sad...we're all fucking sad. So...Die Hard 5? We love you BW!!!!
So by supersloth	Jun 27th, 2007 12:03:00 AM
wonder what willis will be adding to the talkbacks now.
Die Hard With A Walker by Fartgod The IRSTard	Jun 27th, 2007 12:04:00 AM
And now Transformers pwns
Ouch by conniebrean1	Jun 27th, 2007 12:04:07 AM
I'll have to brace myself for the soul-crushing disappointment of Die Hard 4, followed by the less disappointing but equally bad Transformers.
Stick a Fork in it... by casinoskunk	Jun 27th, 2007 12:05:28 AM
I'm done!
Willis by Quint	Jun 27th, 2007 12:06:02 AM
I have respect for him coming here and talking directly to the fans. But unlike Stallone, he doesn't have a good movie to back it up. At least, I don't think he does and the people I was with hated it even more than I did. And like I said in the review, he tries, but I'm just left scratching my head over comments he made like he won't do a fifth movie unless Wiseman comes back for it. He's so wrong for this series. When he makes comments like that, it really makes his chat here feel like a promotion, not a heart-felt interaction, like Stallone's Q&A was.
John McTernian by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:07:27 AM
So, I have a theory. Is the reason the underworld guy got hired for DH4(It sounds lame just writing it outloud!) is because NOBODY who was around in the DH 1-3 days willing to do another? Could the pg13 rating issue have been VERY well known since the first stages of planning, there by scaring off a decent amount of talent? Hmmm....
Fox by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:10:01 AM
I have a hard time thinking Fox put up millions and THEN decided to pg13 it. Wiseman knew he was making a theatrical pg13 movie.
Feels like a there could be a good Unrated DVD there? by Grando	Jun 27th, 2007 12:10:42 AM
What say you Quint? Do I wait 6 months for the inevitiable "what you didn't see in the theaters" release?
Lethal Weapon > Die Hard by Shermdawg	Jun 27th, 2007 12:11:07 AM
Search your feelings, you know this to be true.
McTernian by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:13:02 AM
Had legal problems...but not DIRECTING problems. I bet he said he wasn't going to make a pg13 POS, and the the powers that be said, Fine. You're not. Wiseman is!
awww i was hoping it would be really good. by kingoflight	Jun 27th, 2007 12:14:02 AM
Ps Die hard is a christmas movie !
To: I Hate Movies by ChestnutStreet	Jun 27th, 2007 12:14:21 AM
C'mon, dude. Low, low blow. Willis came here and talked to people on his own time. You can't blame him for the studio re-tooling the movie and kicking it down to PG-13. That's a Marketing Department move, not his. If you're gonna crack on his acting, you're more than welcome to do so after you see the movie. Same goes for the plot-line and everything else. But a cheap crack here not having seen the flick and taking one guy's word for it? Not cool. And no, I'm not a Willis plant. Just a fan of these pages who doesn't want to see any future guests here scared away by cheap bullshit.
Seriously though, I was turned off by this flick... by Shermdawg	Jun 27th, 2007 12:15:32 AM
...from th first trailer. All of the gray tones and crap cg.....it just doesn't look like a Die Hard flick y'know? And just the other day I saw a bit of that harrier surfing scene in one of the new tv spots for the first time. Jesus Christ that looks terrible.
Did anybody ask BW... by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:15:40 AM
If the studio looked at Robert Rodriguez? Oh, yeah, I bet they did and he said, 'Im not making a pg13 POS. And they said fine. You're not. Wiseman is! lol!!!!
McTiernan by naked_mandy	Jun 27th, 2007 12:16:08 AM
maybe they didnt get McTiernan back because the only movies he's made since "Die Hard 3" are "The Thirteenth Warrior," "The Thomas Crown Affair," the "Rollerball" remake, and "Basic." That's reason enough for me.
I (gunshot)ing new it! by GravyAkira	Jun 27th, 2007 12:17:18 AM
There is no way on Earth that a pg-13 Die Hard film with a computer genius as the villain, and the "Mac guy" as a sidekick could be even remotely good. What the fuck are you thinking Fox? I will see it on the big screen, but I refuse to pay for it! We Die Hard fans deserve better. Now all I have to look foward to is a Michael Bay movie and the return of Bourne. This summer sucks!
So I got a Regal giftcard for my birthday by Purgatori	Jun 27th, 2007 12:17:24 AM
is this worth seeing for free at least? Cause I'm bored.
really lousy summer so far by wadi77	Jun 27th, 2007 12:19:10 AM
Not really. remember Rataouille?
Laughing all the way to the bank... by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:19:37 AM
DH4 is going to CLEAN UP!
rating by Quint	Jun 27th, 2007 12:19:54 AM
The feeling I get is they just cut the language. My theory is that they realized after filming wrapped that they put a ton of movie into a movie that was just some "fucks" and "cocksuckers" away from a more lucrative PG-13. I could be completely wrong. I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but that's the impression I got. As far as Rotten Tomatoes goes... I'm glad other people liked it. I thought it was really bad. I guess you guys'll find out which side of the line you're on when you see it.
wait by Quint	Jun 27th, 2007 12:21:01 AM
That should be "money into a movie" not "movie into a movie." Curses!
I beg to differ... by goonie	Jun 27th, 2007 12:22:31 AM
I saw this at a screening last night-- it's not nearly as bad as Quint is making it out to be. Timothy Olyphant is definitely disappointing as the main villain, but it's not his fault. He's given nothing to work with-- no great lines, no scenes of shocking violence, no interesting back-story, and (SPOILER) a pretty second-rate death. THAT SAID...Justin Long is surprisingly hilarious, and Maggie Q is kickass. Mary Winstead is super hot and totally legit as McClane's daughter, which thrilled me. The action scenes in this film are AWESOME. Literally clap your hands and cheer awesome. The kind of action scenes that make you laugh with delight because you don't know how else to react. In the end, I feel that this is a better paced movie than Die Hard 2 and much more fun than Die Hard 3. Still not nearly as good as the original, but that's no surprise. Don't get sucked into the hate-machine. This movie is a shitload of fun. As I've been telling my friends, it rates 4 stars as an action movie, and 3 stars as a Die Hard movie, if that makes sense.
How could anyone have hope for Len Wiseman? by IndustryKiller!	Jun 27th, 2007 12:24:44 AM
The guy is fucking terrible. The Underworld films, which are about fucking Vampires and Werewolves fighting mind you, are so boring they might as well be Merchant-Ivory pictures. An absolutely pathetic director.
it's getting good reviews on RT by Rupee88	Jun 27th, 2007 12:25:16 AM
but those may be "payola" reviews...wait until it is released to see a true consensus.
Quint re: Rating by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:27:02 AM
That's the hope isn't it? Best intentions were held. Obviously FOX had everybody, including BW agree to the possibility of pg13 before production got funded. Somewhere it said, unless you want to get sued...shoot these scenes this way. Everybodys happy. Obviously...not us. It's a real bummer.
"the dude that played yuppie scum Ellis" by JonQuixote	Jun 27th, 2007 12:29:04 AM
Y'know, there's this thing called the internet now and if you ask it questions like "Who played Ellis in DIE HARD?", it'll tell you. Then you'd find out and think "Ok, his name was Hart Bochner. That'll lend credibility to my comments about how the cast and characters of the DIE HARD movies were interesting, as in 'they were so interesting, I remembered who they were' And hey, look at this, he directed PCU." *** I'm not disappointed by this review and taking it out on you or anything, huh?
And Congrats!!!! by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:29:35 AM
DH4.$ is getting everybody promoted.
Sorry, I trust the positive tomatometer more. by Cotton McKnight	Jun 27th, 2007 12:30:02 AM
This movie is just asking to be panned by snooty film critics, and the fact that it is universally praised says a LOT in my book. I have never fallen in line with what Quint says anyway, so there you go.
Imagine a DieHard movie by AnwarNamtut	Jun 27th, 2007 12:30:27 AM
made by Tarantino and Rodriguez. Doesn't matter which one directs or writes, though preferably on this one I guess QT write and Robert direct. They already know how to get the best performances out of Bruce and have the clout to make a studio release an R rated movie. Temporarily not the clout to do a 3 hour plus R rated movie though. Danny Trejo as your Karl. Banderas and/or Hayek and/or Daryl Hannah as your main villain(s). I'd have said Michael Madsen but Jesus save us Bloodrayne ruined that for me. Rose McGowan as McClane's daughter turned stripper. What's left to hijack? Who cares. Maybe they take SeaWorld SanAntonio hostage and Bruce coaxes Shamu to leap in the air and take out a threatening Harrier jump jet. Or maybe everybody just realizes that a landlocked Sea park is fuqing retarded and goes home to "run a train" on the young McClane girl. OK, so I'll never get to run a movie studio obviously because that would be the best movie ever. Until Joel Schumacher gets his chance at the franchise so we could see what a true Hollywood genius could do.
You can't trust Rotten Tomatoes with this one by IndustryKiller!	Jun 27th, 2007 12:31:27 AM
critics couldn't be more out of touch in terms of reviewing genre films if they tried. Stuffy newspaper critics have absolutely no idea what makes an action film good, bad, or otherwise. This is especially evident in comic book films, reading reviews of a comic flick from major reviewers is like watching a monkey fucking a football. They clearly just have no eye for decent action directing or writing when watching these films. Therefore in regards to rotten tomatoes it has to be disregarded completely. Read Quints review, its all there from someone who knows what he is talking about and someone well versed in the franchise laying it out detail for detail. I would bet he's a lot more qualified and has a much better eye than any professional critic in this regard.
Imagine a DieHard movie by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:32:02 AM
Yes!!!!
I don't get it by the darkman	Jun 27th, 2007 12:32:13 AM
Die Hard 3 was a solid action movie. I mean yeah it gets a little out of hand as the movie moves forward, but damn was it at least well thought out, and well shot. I will see LFODH this week, but I have a bad feeling about it. The whole Pg-13 thing is making me worry, and the fact that the action looks so over the top has me a little pissed. If it's as over the top as it looks then this movie had no business being made, period. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered the movie to other directors with the pg-13 thing scared them off. I'll see for myself this Friday!
You can't trust Rotten Tomatoes with this one by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:35:28 AM
I'll side with Quint over BW. I think it's Ok to want more. Shit...it's no surprise Wiseman, even if BW says he can. I don't think they'll watch this flick as many times as we will anyway.
i hope you know by AnwarNamtut	Jun 27th, 2007 12:36:33 AM
I was serious about everything except the Schumacher part. I am still pissed at Harry for having Phantom of the Opera at BNAT that time! Batman and Robin Forever! OMG!
a toothless $2 Tijuana hooker by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:36:35 AM
Why don't you just say Mom?
ouch ..... very ouch..... by JeanLuc Dickhard	Jun 27th, 2007 12:38:16 AM
make it so mr quint ....
Sometimes, I want to talkback... by Bass Bastardson	Jun 27th, 2007 12:38:21 AM
But then I read what everyone is saying and all I can think is YOU ARE ALL FUCKING TARDS AND LOSERS. Sorry. I just can't take any more bitter losers ranting about how bad shit is when they aren't out there doing anything better.
Whoops by thehellhoundgang	Jun 27th, 2007 12:39:06 AM
I'll side with Quint over BW. I think it's Ok to want more. Shit...it's no surprise Wiseman, even if BW says he can, CANT DO DH. I don't think they'll watch this flick as many times as we will anyway.
85% on the tomatometer.... by schnipple	Jun 27th, 2007 12:40:11 AM
that's pretty high for a bad summer action flick. I am now very confused. I guess I'll have to see it for my self, YIPPEKAYAYMUTHA...BANG!
Over there, it's crazy... by FilmCritic3000	Jun 27th, 2007 12:40:13 AM
The Kevin Smith messageboards are rife with people amped up for this cinematic atrocity. The mind boggles...
tards forever by AnwarNamtut	Jun 27th, 2007 12:42:04 AM
who else watches as many movies as us retards and losers?!? We're paying these peoples' mortgages and we like it.
Lousy Summer? by Bungion Boy	Jun 27th, 2007 12:42:24 AM
Maybe the sequels and big blockbusters. But there are great films out there and more to come. Knocked Up, La Vie En Rose, Ratatouille, Sicko, The Savages, Superbad, Once, Rocket Science, Paprika. And then some good movies that have problems but are interesting and above average: Eagle vs. Shark, The Ten, You Kill Me, 1408, Ocean's 13, A Mighty Heart, I could go on. I'm seeing Die Hard 4 tomorrow. I, like Quint, am hoping for at least a fun movie. I hope I get one. But I know that if it sucks, there is a lot more to fall back on than people are suggesting.
Lousy Summer? by Bungion Boy	Jun 27th, 2007 12:42:24 AM
Maybe the sequels and big blockbusters. But there are great films out there and more to come. Knocked Up, La Vie En Rose, Ratatouille, Sicko, The Savages, Superbad, Once, Rocket Science, Paprika. And then some good movies that have problems but are interesting and above average: Eagle vs. Shark, The Ten, You Kill Me, 1408, Ocean's 13, A Mighty Heart, I could go on. I'm seeing Die Hard 4 tomorrow. I, like Quint, am hoping for at least a fun movie. I hope I get one. But I know that if it sucks, there is a lot more to fall back on than people are suggesting.
Over there, it's crazy... by FilmCritic3000	Jun 27th, 2007 12:42:46 AM
The Kevin Smith message boards are rife with people amped up for this cinematic atrocity. The mind boggles... (and I apologize if this posted twice...it didn't show up even after I reloaded the page several times)
the Angry Nerd by MC-909	Jun 27th, 2007 12:45:09 AM
"Here he’s a guy that gets angry and throws his computer and talks threateningly into a webcam." Wow. That's all that needs to be said. Nice one Quint.
i think that the old school by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 12:45:31 AM
i think that the old school action era is finally dead.we are never going to get again movies like die hard,lethal weapon,commando,48 hours,predator and so on.the world has changed and unfortunately it has changed to the worst. yes there are exceptions like rodriguez and tarantino but on the other hand you watch now a john mcclane who is cleaner,sober,without his foul mouth and his wisecracks.dammit the world has changed.... :(
Bass Bastardson by ScarranHalfBreed	Jun 27th, 2007 12:46:29 AM
And again the PRICKS come out to play. We're movie fans, cunt lips. We want to LIKE a movie that comes out. It was made for us to watch and enjoy. Just cos we're not making movies, it doesn't mean we can't critisise 'em. You go to a restaurant and you're given shit to eat by the waiter - do you NOT complain cos you couldn't do any better, or do you complain cos you PAID A TENNER for the food and it tastes like the hair around a dog's anus? Bass Bastardson, I'm sure you're the kind of person who'd eat it up, slap your stomach, and ask for seconds.
btw the angry video game by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 12:46:41 AM
btw the angry video game nerd has a review about the die hard nes game. hillarious stuff.
I will by Biowolf	Jun 27th, 2007 12:47:05 AM
see it and judge for myself.
here is the by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 12:47:35 AM
here is the link: http://tinyurl.com/2gk5s3
Not surprising in the least. by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2007 12:48:41 AM
Did anyone else catch Walter B's appearance on Letterman the other night? WOW. The clip they played was so embarrassingly bad that I actually cringed for Willis. So, I'm going to go ahead and say it: This franchise is officially Juggf(gunshot)!
Oh... by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2007 12:53:38 AM
...and Mary Elizabeth Winstead = Getting hotter by the minute.
JUST GOT BACK FROM THE SNEAK : DON'T SEE THIS SHIT! by TheDohDoh	Jun 27th, 2007 12:53:54 AM
Oh my gohhhd. Bruce Willis, I have lost all respect for you. One thing to grab a check, another thing to talk to me on AICN and declare this is the best Die Hard since the first. THIS MOVIE FUCKING SUCKKKKKKKS. BOYCOTT. MR. WILLIS, YOU ARE TOAST.
I think too many people here are WAY too picky... by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 12:54:13 AM
I guess I just understand Harry's way of thinking alot better than most of you. I don't have these "Expectations" that a lot of you seem to bring into a movie. And I don't let one or two goofy scenes ruin a whole movie for me. I let myself go in ready to enjoy and really appreciate the time and effort put into a lot of these movies. That's why I was so surprised after seeing a movie like Attack of the Clones and seeing the harsh reaction to it. I, too, was a little disappointed in the acting of Hayden and Natalie and thought their "love" scenes together were hokey. But, how could the low points of that movie make you not enjoy all the great action scenes and light saber duel at the end? As far as this movie goes, I think Quint was expecting something that couldn't be fulfilled. There's been so long of a layoff that the original movie and sequels go to a special place in your heart that as more time passes seems more and more untouchable. I believe that if Die Hard 3 was released before Die Hard 2, everyone would say it was better and wouldn't like Die Harder as much. I think it benefitted from being released so soon after the first one that alot of the problems with it were overlooked. It came out right while people were still excited by the first one and maybe just seeing the Die Hard for the first time. It was immediately just accepted as part of the series. Before the mythology set in and all the wannabe Die Hards showed up over the past decade or so. Now that this one is here, people like Quint are really Jaded. But I don't know how you can blame the trailer for you not liking the movie. I know there's been movies like Arlington Road and The Italian Job where the Entire movie has been ruined by the trailer but that's your own fault for seeking them out. He works for a site that goes about finding out spoilers for a movie, visits sets where movies are made, gets the inside dirt on every movie he can, then complains that he already knew everything that was gonna happen. Well, maybe you might wanna rethink what you do. Would you have loved the 1st Die Hard as much if you knew Hans would be thrown off the building, Nakatomi would be shot in the face, Ellis trying to turn McClaine over, etc, etc, etc?
summer movies by Quint	Jun 27th, 2007 12:54:56 AM
Bungion - A lot of those movies you listed haven't come out yet, but you're right. There are a lot of decent things... I meant more the summer movies, ie the tentpoles, not every single movie coming out in the summer months. And this is coming from one of the 4 or 5 people that really liked Pirates 3. But you're right. Knocked Up is the great and Superbad is also the great. Comedies are doing well this summer (and will do well when Superbad hits).
Shocking! The new PG-13 Die Hard sucks. Yawn. by Quake II	Jun 27th, 2007 12:55:26 AM
The last 2 Die Hards sucked, so this is no surprise. They should have left this series alone. I like Willis a lot but I hope this movie really bombs. I'm rooting for it to take a huge dump at the box office.
PEOPLE THIS IS THE WORST VILLIAN SINCE HACKERS. by TheDohDoh	Jun 27th, 2007 12:55:37 AM
I'd rather watch the fucking Net 10x than see this again. What a fucking disgrace to '80s babies everywhere. Damn you Bruce! Damn you to straight-to-DVD hell!!!!
FOX MOVIES SUCK by Eh Nam1313	Jun 27th, 2007 12:57:34 AM
I used to get goosebumps from the fox logo showing up before the movie starts. All fox does is make kid friendly crap and does not give a rats ass to what the fans want. AN R rating for Die Hard a good FF2 Movie and an xmen 3 that does not put the focus on Hally sucks ass berry. I love Die Hard and I have to see the movie but I am just sad that after this I don't think I will see there movies any more screw FOX!
DH4 is for the die hard by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 12:58:13 AM
DH4 is for the die hard franchise,the same thing that the SW PT is for the original star wars trilogy. damn you lucas and damn you willis.
old school can return though by AnwarNamtut	Jun 27th, 2007 01:00:02 AM
we've been given back our un PC 80s comedies, almost singlehandedly by Apatow and assorted cohorts. Think happy thoughts...................... ..........OK, didn't work for me either, you are probably right about the action being dead for a while, until Verhoeven remembers how to make action movies like he used to. Most of the other action greats have died or been castrated. Note: this is not referrring to the fine folks like QT and Robert who still bring us 70s style action movies, they are kicking ass and taking names. Maybe they should focus their trained eyes on the 80s style. The Rock for example is ready to be the star of the next Invasion USA or Robocop or Raw Deal, someone just gotta make it so!
THANK YOU QUINT. YOU HAVE BALLS. SPEAK THE TRUTH. by TheDohDoh	Jun 27th, 2007 01:00:31 AM
Quint, thank you for restoring some of my faith in the suspicious payola-or-easing-expectations of Mr. Harry Tubby Knowles. I was afraid you'd defend this one, but you called it out as the dreck it is. WILLIS TRIED TO USE ALL OF US TO GO SEE THIS STEAMING PILE. AND DAMMIT HARRY, I WANT YOUR REVIEW RIGHT NOW. THE PG-13 RATING KILLED THIS. FUCK OFF FOR DEFENDING IT JUST B/C WILLIS GOT WEBCAM HAPPY. VERN, I AM SADDENED FOR YOUR LOSS. MORIARITY, YOU NEED TO STEP UP AND RIP THIS APART WITH A CHAIN GUN OF CRITICISM. what the hell happened to summer 2007? hollywood got sfx-trigger happy and forced out shitty movies like Knocked Up's pussy shot. SUPERBAD, please be my Meatballs of 2007.
What's the problem with Justin Long? He was funny by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:01:21 AM
in Waiting and Dodge Ball. You hate him just cause of the Mac commercials? That's pretty sad. Quint, I just hope you're wrong about Olyhant. He's pretty damn good and I've liked him ever since Scream 2...
Quint Die Hard Transformers by antonphd	Jun 27th, 2007 01:03:32 AM
OK. I'll accept that DH4 doesn't live up to the series and even that it's a dissapointing action movie. But come next week... I hope we don't get nothing but praise for Transformers despite the fact it is certain to have the exact same things wrong with it as you list for DH4.
Justin Long by antonphd	Jun 27th, 2007 01:05:49 AM
I don't know what's up with people hating Justin Long for the Mac Commercials. It's a job for him. He did Waiting, Dodgeball, Accepted. He was great in all of those films.
I'm still trying to be cautiously optimistic about this by seanny_d	Jun 27th, 2007 01:06:27 AM
All you've done Quint it knock my expectations down even more, which can only be a good thing because maybe I'll come out liking it even more. As for the past Die Hards, the only truly great one is the original. Die Hard 2 was a pale imitation, yet still exciting, and Vengeance did not at all feel like a Die Hard movie, but it was an enjoyable actioner nonetheless. I'd say the problem lies in the fact that McClane has ZERO emotional journey in 2, 3, and seemingly 4. In the first one he realized what his life would be like without his wife, therefore giving him reason to grow and change. 2 and 3 was just "stop the bad guys." And the putting his daughter in peril in the fourth just seems to be shoehorning in reasons for us to care, not actually giving us any growth. That being said, I hope that there are at least a few cool explosions. I'll definitely be catching an early matinee.
Why do people WANT this to fail and be bad? by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:07:06 AM
Alot of people apparantly do like it. The fact Quint doesn't like it doesn't mean you won't and why do you assume Moriarty will hate it? I'm gonna go into it hoping to see an enjoyable movie, whether or not it "FEELS" like Die Hard. It will have to be pretty damn bad for me to NOT like it. But, maybe I will agree with Quint. But how do any of you KNOW you won't like it?
The DohDoh prepare to be happy by AnwarNamtut	Jun 27th, 2007 01:08:41 AM
Superbad is indeed a winner. I want to watch this again so very badly, so, so very badly. Even the "shows too much" trailer doesn't ruin it at all.
Once you've watched 80's & 90's R-rated action by Neo Zeed	Jun 27th, 2007 01:09:49 AM
You can't accept Pg-13 action. For superhero movies, fantasy stuff, and disaster pictures...yes. A movie about a cop wasting criminals with guns? No. Maybe for those who grew up on lame-o Fast and Furious...but it's only because they didn't see Point Break.
The reason you people are against this movie is... by stamper	Jun 27th, 2007 01:12:12 AM
This movie makes fun of nerds ie the hardcore comics/TV/movies audience. You know, the 35 years old virgin boys who never went to a punk gig where 30 skinheads or 30 cops (makes no difference) descended en masse to beat the crap out of all the kids. You know McClane is the last of it's kind, a guy who actually LIVED hard, not some guy who sit in front of a computer (which I'm doing right now, damn me) and who collect Marvel Toys, comics, Spawn and T3 Figurines. REAL LIFE. ACTION MAN. ONE SIDE NERDS. OTHER SIDE
-Mister Mystery Guest? Are by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 01:12:17 AM
-Mister Mystery Guest? Are you still there? -Yeah, I'm still here. Unless you wanna open the front door for me. -Uh, no I'm afraid not. But you have me at a loss. You know my name but who are you? Just another American who saw too many movies as a child? Another orphan of a bankrupt culture who thinks he's John Wayne? Rambo? Marshall Dillon? -No way man,this is the 00s.I am kinda' partial to a pussified,bald,Neo.I really hate blood stains on my shirt. -Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mister Chosen One? -Yippee-ki-yay, mothe[gunshot]
Hey antophd, who woulda thought Justin Long by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:14:30 AM
would be what brought us together after our grudge match on the Michael Moore TB last night? Also, he didn't suck in Jeeper Creepers...
seanny_d in die hard by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 01:15:29 AM
seanny_d in die hard 2,mcclane again tries to save his wife.she was like a prisoner inside a plane.
Couglinslaws by Quint	Jun 27th, 2007 01:18:53 AM
I never said that. Re-read that part of the review. I actually like Long as a comedic actor. He hasn't found his project yet, his one perfect role... my favorite he's done is Galaxy Quest, actually, but he hasn't found his big role yet.
I just saw it... by Kraken	Jun 27th, 2007 01:19:50 AM
Trust me, save your ticket money and go buy the Die Hard DVD box set instead. This movie is nothing more than a showcase for big action FX (that we've mostly seen before in better movies) with hollow characters and plot holes you could drive a portable hard drive with the world's financial data through (yes, that would be a big gunshot'ing hard drive, or maybe not according to this shit fest movie). Thank you Len W.S. Wisemen for wrapping Die Hard up in a nice plastic wrapper and trying to feed it to us one stupid explosion at a time.
Hell I bet HOT FUZZ has more action than this movie by Eh Nam1313	Jun 27th, 2007 01:21:46 AM
I Like Len W movies but I think it more for the fact that he had Kate in a nice tight outfit and not that it was a good movie.(Underworlds) It cracks me up that those Fucks at Fox have been hiding the fact that this movie was a PG -13 movie in there trailers.(this film is not yet rated) hell most people don't know and thats a shame. It just started showing up recently that this is pg13 talk about low and dirty. FUCK you FOX YOU SCREW us AT THE MOVIES AND ON THE TV. (Taking away wonderfalls and firefly)
phoenixmagi, can you NOT think for yourself? by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:23:45 AM
How is Quint hating this movie "Proof" that it sux? Most people who have seen it so far liked it? Plus, what right do you have to call Bruce Willis a coward and tell him to eat a dick? Way to be totally disrespectful for no reason whatsoever. How many Hollywood actors have taken the time to directly talk to fans like he did? He never followed through with as much as he said he would, but can you blame him with jerks like you and the guy who made a crack about Ashton earlier? Why should he waste his time talking to assholes like you who wouldn't even have a discussion with him anyway? You'd just talk "AT" him and tell him he's a dirtbag for actually thinking he made a good movie...
Don't get the hate for Die Hard III by King Sweyn Forkbeard	Jun 27th, 2007 01:25:53 AM
Sure, it's not as good as the first (what else is?) but it's far superior to the second one and the vast majority of other action movies.
Stupid review. by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 27th, 2007 01:26:07 AM
Cool movie. Don't believe the bad hype, this is waaaaay better than the summer blockbuster crapfests known as Pirates 3 and Spidey 3.
i love willis,but i have to by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 01:27:59 AM
i love willis,but i have to agree with the other guys here.he just came here as a damage control tool.he did it because fox asked him to do it in order to promote the movie.and that saddens me because i always thought that willis is a john mcclane in real life too,a person you know you can rely to,a person that you can trust.damn you willis.
Oh well, bring on Transformers by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jun 27th, 2007 01:30:28 AM
So far the reviews that are coming in at Rotten have been great. Sounds like that will be the clear winner this summer and give us that fix we have all been pining for. Can't get here soon enough.
Hey, Quint, I respect your opinion and the part by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:31:26 AM
about Justin Long was aimed more at other idiots here. I just think that it would be hard for you, Harry, Moriarty, or any of you guys to not be jaded by most movies you see with all the stuff you see about a project months or even years before you see the finished product. But, I don't always agree with reviews on this site but at least I find them useful because you explain why you don't like the movies and that helps me decide whether or not to go see them. You haven't said anything to make me not want to see this because I think I will enjoy parts of this that you didn't. I, unlike some of the ass-clowns here, know that doesn't make either one of us right or wrong, it just means we both have opinions.
don't really have anything to say about this by BadMrWonka	Jun 27th, 2007 01:35:07 AM
it's like eating a bunch of taco bell, and then getting crazy liquid ass afterwards. as you sit on the toilet, are you really surprised? hey, at least the taco bell probably didn't cost you as much as you paid for this movie.
Ominus... by seanny_d	Jun 27th, 2007 01:35:24 AM
Oh, I get that. And I did forget to mention that fact that his wife was on the plane. But there was no emotional journey for lack of a better term. Goal: save wife. That's his external goal. What's his internal goal? There isn't one. Blow shit up? That's why no Die Hard has been able to match the first, because in the first, his goal was again to save his wife, but it was also to learn to accept change in his life and to tell his wife what she truly meant to him because she didn't know that point. "She's heard me say I love you a thousand times, but she's never heard me say 'I'm sorry.'" You don't have that in any other of the movies. And I'm not expecting it in LFODH either.
Coughlins by Quint	Jun 27th, 2007 01:36:48 AM
Everyone's entitled to their opinions. I hope you like you like it more than I did. I don't know if I'd consider myself jaded, but I can tell you I was going in hoping for a fun movie. There are moments in this movie that made me chuckle, but those were greatly outweighed by what didn't work for me. I'm sure we'll have many more opinions in the coming day as more and more people see it and talkback or post their reviews.
How to return to R-rated action movies... by Neo Zeed	Jun 27th, 2007 01:37:15 AM
Hollywood needs to make some smaller budget actioners with talented directors. Then they need to become profitable hits. That's the only thing that'll convice the studios to bring them back with the big budget and star power that we remember.
Yeah, by Tourist	Jun 27th, 2007 01:40:39 AM
I've liked Long and Olyphant since I first saw them, back in Scream 2 (and some weird random cop show) and Jeepers Creepers. Don't understand the dislike for the Long's and Leboufs. Think they're pretty great. Levitt and Ben Foster are better than both though, shame they aren't getting the same level of exposure. Then again, Josh Harnett is still in movies, so there is no accounting for taste.
i disagree seanny_d.in die by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 01:43:08 AM
i disagree seanny_d.in die hard 2 mcclane was very emotional.just remember the scene where he fails to save the airplane which explodes.and then mcclane starts crying.CRYING!!.and after that when he finds in the wreckage, a burned doll,obviously its owner a little girl in the plane,you can see in his eyes that situation becomes deeply personal to him.you can see that he wants the blood of the guys who did this.and ofc in the end of the movie he delivers. but in diehard3 mcclane was the less emotional.no wife,no family,just doing his duty and clearing some old accounts.nothing more.
Coughlins Laws by antonphd	Jun 27th, 2007 01:46:52 AM
LOL. :) Hey, there's politics and then there's entertainment. I'm here 99.999% for the entertainment talk. DH4 is getting 86% from COC on RT. Sounds like it's not the second coming of John McClane, but it sounds like it's fun. Works for me. Hell, let's face it. There's never been and there's never gonna be another one in the same league as the first DH. The planets were aligned on that movie. I can enjoy DH2 and DH3, so, I'm expecting to enjoy 4. What can I say. I'm gonna probably enjoy Transformers too. I saw the rated R DH4 last year. It was called 16 Blocks. I'm cool with the popcorn version we are getting tomorrow. Though. Who knows. I may change my tune once I've seen it.
Ominus... by seanny_d	Jun 27th, 2007 01:47:07 AM
I see where you're coming from, but I'd say there's a difference between being emotional and going on an emotional journey. There is no change or personal growth in Die Hard 2. He loves his wife at the beginning, he loves his wife at the end. His external goals are all still the same: save wife, kill bad guys. Sure, he gets angrier along the way, but that doesn't mean there's any more of a change he has to undergo in that one that rivals the first movie.
I guess I can't hold not liking Long against all you by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:50:53 AM
guys. I admit that there have been movies in the past that I couldn't let myself like because of a particular actor in it. For instance, don't laugh, Murder By Numbers. I used to hate, I mean HATE Sandra Bullock and my girlfriend at the time loved her and dragged me to see it. I hated the hype she used to have and couldn't get into the movie. But, I caught it just the other day on cable and realized that Ryan Gosling, who was unknown the, was in it. And you know what, 5 years later I actually like that movie now..
Quint - Just tell us - is it Transporter 2 bad? by antonphd	Jun 27th, 2007 01:52:19 AM
That's what we all really want to know. Jason Statham was shaping up to be the next Bruce Willis and then we did Transporter 2. Ouch. Step backwards. From 1-10, how do you rate Transporter 2 and Die Hard 4 as sequels... if their first were 10. It's a relative 10 of course.
yes i agree with the by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 01:53:16 AM
yes i agree with the emotional journey of mcclane in diehard1.and that is what made the movie so good.i just wanted to point out that in die hard2 too we get to see mcclane emotional ,that the movie had some heart too,it wasnt only action. in diehard3 you can say that mcclane finished the journey he began in the first movie ;)
Thanks for the words, Quint. by Bungion Boy	Jun 27th, 2007 01:53:17 AM
I know what you meant. I think we're about on the same page. And true, some of the films I mentioned have not come out yet, but I have seen all the films I listed and can speak to the excellence of them all. Oh man. Can't wait to see Superbad again. It will own the month of August.
Getting PG13nd by antonphd	Jun 27th, 2007 01:57:25 AM
I do remember being excited for The Eaters of the Dead and getting 13th Warrior instead. That was a big blow. So was Timeline. Man. That movie was turned into a PG13 piece of shit. I still love it because a certain Spartan nailed Merrick from the book. And the town and castle was awesome. But goddamn they really fucked that movie's guts out to get a PG13 rating.
phoenixmagi, seriously, a plant? Why do you want by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 01:59:55 AM
Bruce's carreer over? I admit that he's done ALOT of shit in the last decade but he's also done a lot of good movies, too. To me, he's just likeable. Like John Travolta. How can you hate him? Even after trying to get through Battlefield Earth (rented it twice now and STILL can't get past a half hour) I still just like the guy and always give his movies a chance. You think someone like Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp would even come on here once?
Demolition Man 2 by stamper	Jun 27th, 2007 02:02:49 AM
Stallone needs to do John Spartan next. Get Wiseman to direct.
Coughlins Laws by antonphd	Jun 27th, 2007 02:04:24 AM
You can't get thru Battlefield Earth unless you saw it trapped in the theater. I am so loathe to admit that I enjoyed the movie the first time I saw it, but I plead super sugar/caffine popcorn brain glitch because I was working at a theater while in college and we watched it at midnight for a screening(back when you could still do that). I tried to watch it again on dvd... couldn't get past the first half. It's impossible.
You know what, I volunteer my services as a plant by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 02:07:39 AM
Anyone at Fox listening, phoenixmagi is right. For the right price, I will give a great review. Everyone here values what I say so much they're willing to part with $10 based on my words. You know what, phoenixmagi, I promise that if I don't like this movie, I'll come back on this TB and let you know. I don't have a vested interest either way. I just can't believe you'll take one review (that's in the minority, so far) as gospel.
Just saw it. by thefofo	Jun 27th, 2007 02:08:22 AM
I thought it was awesome! Non stop action, fun, and Bruce Willis can still kick ass. There were definitely flaws, but it still felt like a die hard movie. But at some parts, it was very obvious that they removed the F words, audio actually looked out of sync for a few seconds.
anyone notice? by FrenchBastard03	Jun 27th, 2007 02:09:42 AM
anyone notice moriarty's quote on an ad for ratatouille on rotten tomatoes? "the best picture of the year by leaps and bounds" - drew mcweeny, aint it cool news
Mick LaSalle LOVED this movie, so it's gotta SUCK! by Zardoz	Jun 27th, 2007 02:12:53 AM
Seriously. That's how I decide if I'm going to see a movie now. If Mick likes it, I know that I'll hate it. If he hates it, I know that I will love it. In his review of Die Hard, he called it "the best of the series." Really, Mick? Better than the first one? He has no concept of what makes a good genre movie. For the record, "The Dickster" absolutely raved about this movie and FF2, so you be the judge...
Bad summer? Wait'll Transformers by Doc_Strange	Jun 27th, 2007 02:13:28 AM
I can almost guarantee it is gonna bomb like the bitch it is. Not only is it a failure creatively, it has ALL the negatives because of its failures. Maybe a big opening weekend like the movies we've seen this summmer (I was surprised how Pirates dragged, yes it wasn't great, I'll admit it), but like all Michael Bay films it will suck and everyone here knows it, the people will know it just like the enlightened here know it. Best movies this summer? Ratatouille, Knocked Up, and 1408 so far....
I don't know if he lied, but I don't see how a star by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 02:20:35 AM
of his magnitude could be totally helpless on the rating situation. You may be right on that. But I still want to see the movie before I feel right about flaming it. Don't you? It definitely will suffer the 2nd week like all the other subpar sequels have if word of mouth is bad. This could've (SHOULD'VE) been the best summer for movies ever. But, everything so far has been no better than OK. Can't you concede that this at least MIGHT be the best sequel so far this summer? That's a low bar for you, isn't it? I just can't believe that all these movies so far have made me excited about Transformers. I also can't believe that so far, 1408 is the best movie of the summer...
Amen, Zardoz. by Bungion Boy	Jun 27th, 2007 02:20:51 AM
There is simple rule that people go by in SF and the rest of the country. Always do the opposite of what Mick MaSalle says. That stupid little man has stood up in his chair for such gems as Spice World and Click, which made his top ten list last year. He's the absolute worst.
to each with his pain,eh by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 02:20:52 AM
to each with his pain,eh doc_Strange?
What Fox couldn't afford to bring back... by Frank The Rabbit	Jun 27th, 2007 02:21:45 AM
Reny Harlin?
Next summer will be better: "DARK KNIGHT", "IRON MAN".. by Mike_D	Jun 27th, 2007 02:23:57 AM
"INCREDIBLE HULK"...need I say more?
I saw it tonight by Knightsong	Jun 27th, 2007 02:25:20 AM
I thought it was entertaining, not as good as the others, but good fun none the less. I think the problem with people going to the movies is their expectations. In todays world we have production diaries and clips and 8 Final International trailers, each with just a bit more something new than the last. They just keep giving us tastes of the final product, that there's nothing left for the meal. I've adopted a personal philosophy when it comes to movies. I watch the first teaser and the first trailer, and if I decide to read reviews from people whove seen it early I scroll down to their last paragraph and get how they felt about it on the whole, because that's all I really care about. Did you like it or not...yes or no...nuff said. We are pre-ruining our movie going experience by allowing ourselves to be consumed in the advertisements and hype. Start restricting yourselves on what you take in and maybe when you're sitting there you'll get a surprise. I think Hollywood should stop the production diaries and everything for movies, save that shit for the DVD. Gimme a teaser, gimme a trailer, a behind the scenes show a few days before the movie is released and then just let me watch the final product. We'll all be better for it.
because they wanted to by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 02:25:43 AM
because they wanted to modernize the die hard franchise.so they made it pg13 with the help of a director who knows how to make eye candy stuff for the mass.
Renny Harlin by Darth Fart	Jun 27th, 2007 02:27:14 AM
I'd have got him. He's a damn good action director.
I'm still hoping Walter B did not play us by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 27th, 2007 02:28:44 AM
I don't know why, but I am. If this film really does turn out to be a soft non-Die Hard Die Hard film, it will make my inner nerd cry a little bit. On a related note, Quint's comparison between Wiseman and Anderson has made me equally sad. Paul W.S. Anderson + very little talent + every film he's ever made = Mila Jovovich Len Wiseman + equally small amount of talent + Underworld Evolution and (possibly) Die Hard 4 = Kate Beckinsale I am seriously considering turning to whatever the real world equivalent of the dark side is...
I completely disagree, Quint... by parallax_r	Jun 27th, 2007 02:31:01 AM
I just came back from a midnight showing here in Indianapolis. The crowd was not sellout, but I'd say it was a good 65-75% full. Now, I had high expectations for this film as well. Going into a DIE HA_D film (note the missing R?) rated PG-13 was not my idea of a good time... But I was quite surprised by how good it was. Regardless of your opinion, mine is that McClane was fully intact in this film. His banter, his humor, his uncanny ability to be in the wrong place at the wrong time - Yeah, at the beginning I would've done without the whole 'watching his daughter' thing, but other than that, this is a weather-worn John McClane. The only thing missing from this film was a few gallons of blood and and about a dozen or so f-bombs. Regarding Timothy Olyphant as the villain (who looks great in the Hitman teaser, by the way - nice to see that blown up on the big screen), yeah he's a wuss. They explained that in his backstory reveal. He's a genius hacker, he's not a weapons expert, he's not a kung-fu master, he's just a computer geek who was "crucified" by his government for wanting to do the right thing, just with a lot of fucking money. That's why he had all the hired goons from "1-800-HENCHMEN" about him. Though, I will concede to your argument about the FBI guys being useless - this film needed to get back to the old formula of having the authorities trying to hinder McClane's attempts to save the day, while McClane (with his trusty sidekick Mac-Boy, who did a decent job, if you ask me). The only big special effect I had a problem with was the sequence with the jet, and McClane doing what he needed to do to live from that - that was an absolute "yeah right" moment. But other than that, I feel it was a decent film, and I hope that come DVD release time, there's an "Unrated" version with maybe some the wet red stuff thrown back in. It could happen. But I digress... Good movie, I recommend it, SISKELS ALL THE WAY AROUND.
I did get the feeling Bruce was just plugging DH4 by Doc_Strange	Jun 27th, 2007 02:31:20 AM
I honestly don't think he was committed to answering Talkback questions like Stallone did. If Stallone was just trying to promote Rocky Balboa, he sure didn't come off that way. He was always very pleasant, answered all the right questions and was an all around gentlemen. We got a few weeks of questions answered and was, in my opinion, the pinnacle of what AICN could do because it is the definitive source of movie gossip. I think most of the guys here tell it like it is and don't sugarcoat anything. For that I respect those guys and Stallone who followed suit admirably. Alas with Willis, his responses were far and few in between, he didn't seem genuinely interested in any questions people had for him. Honestly, he seemed high on himself from the few responses I read. He didn't take the time to answer 10 questions a day, not even having a secretary write it up, which would have been better than nothing, now what saving grace there could have been for Willis in DH4 has now been squandered by FOX and Wilis indecision to fight for an R rating. And for that there is extreme backlash, a less than competant movie, an uncertain career, and many talkbackers left cold by the experience.
P.S. Thanks, Quint by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 27th, 2007 02:33:45 AM
Your review has depressed me a bit, but I do appreciate the humorous Jesus Quintana reference. Silver lining and that. "Eight year olds, dude."
No way he lied by stamper	Jun 27th, 2007 02:40:59 AM
"he lied to his fans' faces." just shut up. you're just a bunch of geeks who were offended to be send up by that Mac guy with his Spawn figurines and Linkin Kart posters. You're the lying sob's who disses a movie you haven't seen.
midnight screening by maxwell's hammer	Jun 27th, 2007 02:47:38 AM
Just got back from one, and on the drive home, I was thinking almost everything Quint just said. It's not a horrible movie, its just not a DIE HARD movie. * The word 'cartoony' popped into my head more than once during the show. No interesting villains. Too many big action set pieces (kind of like what happed to all the Pierce Brosnan 007 movies), and not enough of the slow build of the original 3. * All the dubbing was ridiculous. I felt like I was watching the 'edited for TV' version a few times. It wasn't just noticable, it was distracting. The original DIE HARD reinvented the action movie. Nothing about this felt original or fresh. Just more explody.
What movie were you watching? by Cruel_Kingdom	Jun 27th, 2007 02:47:52 AM
I just screened this and thought it was a great actioner a'la the 1980s. Sure the explosions are bigger and the bodycount is higher, but that's the rule of sequels. As for the plot not resembling the earlier films, great! Who needs another Die Hard 1/Under Siege/Passenger 57 retread? This movie kept the action coming and the one-liners were great. My review tomorrow is going to be a B+. Loved it.
What movie were you watching? by Cruel_Kingdom	Jun 27th, 2007 02:47:55 AM
I just screened this and thought it was a great actioner a'la the 1980s. Sure the explosions are bigger and the bodycount is higher, but that's the rule of sequels. As for the plot not resembling the earlier films, great! Who needs another Die Hard 1/Under Siege/Passenger 57 retread? This movie kept the action coming and the one-liners were great. My review tomorrow is going to be a B+. Loved it.
Too much MacGuffin and not enough AssKickin by adeepercut2k	Jun 27th, 2007 02:53:32 AM
Just saw the film tonight in SD, Calif. The individual action scenes, minus the jet scene, are exciting, a bit over the top, but really plays well with the McClaine character. But getting from one action scene to the next makes you wish they rewrote the entire MacGuffin. They go too much into hacker stuff and the confusion created by the villain. They forgot the movie is about McClaine and not military/government databases. It's too convoluted and the villain's dialogue is boring. Olyphant essentially brings a bit of his nastiness from the "girl next door" character, and mix it with the stiffness of his "deadwood" character. But what else are you going to do when you're running a crime from behind a computer. He's more menacing than Fisher Stevens in Hackers, but less memorable. :( lol Somebody needs to give him a proper villain roll and let him get nasty with it. He needed to have a brutal fight scene in this film. Instead he's just another "movie hacker." This film needs far less explanation of the crime, and better dialogue for Olyphant. And the pacing at the end of the film is atrocious. After somewhat enjoying the film for the first 2 acts, it shits out the final act like a constipated septuagenarian. They need to go back and see the original Die Hard and take some notes. This was more of a sequel to Die Hard with a Vengeance then it was a sequel to the original.
antonphd by FrenchBastard03	Jun 27th, 2007 02:56:02 AM
what do you mean you cant watch midnight screenings when working at a movie theatre the night before anymore? im a projectionist at a local movie theatre and we are still required to do that to ensure everything runs smoothly and reels are in order, no misplices, etc. are yall not allowed to do that anymore?
Well, i liked it by Barl	Jun 27th, 2007 02:56:31 AM
You get a old school action movie nothing more, nothing less and if you can accept that you can have fun, i did
Projectionist by warsinthesun	Jun 27th, 2007 02:59:23 AM
My friends are screening it right now. I'm not gonna put myself through the misery. We also have to screen the films at our chain to check for scratches, damaged reels, etc...
frg10 by Cruel_Kingdom	Jun 27th, 2007 03:00:50 AM
Look, you posted a question mark for each point of your IQ. Good work, son.
LFODK - doin` pretty well on the Tomatometer... by Man_of_Stool	Jun 27th, 2007 03:01:30 AM
Gonna stay open-minded on this one...
I still think the worst thing about this movie is the by Coughlins Laws	Jun 27th, 2007 03:01:42 AM
fact tha he's bald, not all the ratings shit. He doesn't LOOK like McClaine anymore. McClaine wouldn't shave his head in response to a receding hariline. He'd go bald like a MAN, naturally...
warsinthesun by warsinthesun	Jun 27th, 2007 03:03:03 AM
that would make him smarter than Albert Einstein...
Die Hard disappointment has stretched the talkback! by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 27th, 2007 03:04:34 AM
The sheer weight of Die Hard disappointment and Walter B disillusionment has caused the talkback to swell and buckle under the strain. And that's not even possible anymore! On account of the gaps!
warsinthesun by Cruel_Kingdom	Jun 27th, 2007 03:05:36 AM
Anyone who uses thirty-five exclamation points or question marks MUST be a genius, right? ;)
Shock! by kwisatzhaderach	Jun 27th, 2007 03:11:02 AM
Len Wiseman-directed Die Hard movie turns out to be rubbish!
To be honest, Die Hard 3 wasn't either by newc0253	Jun 27th, 2007 03:19:05 AM
i mean, it was a great action movie but it didn't really feel of a piece with the first two Die Hard movies.
In addition... by parallax_r	Jun 27th, 2007 03:26:19 AM
I do have to agree that this felt more like a sequel to "With A Vengeance" than to the original Die Hard... But I stand by my story - it was a kick-ass action movie.
I'd rather have my own grandfather rape me... by samuraiyao	Jun 27th, 2007 03:26:29 AM
I saw the fucking shitty movie and it felt like "Independence day meets Mission impossible!!!! It was just going for the cheap thrills and nothing more. Just because it has great action and effects doesn't make it a really enjoyable movie to set through.
It's rated a 15 in the UK by abiggerboat	Jun 27th, 2007 03:29:32 AM
Please tell me that mean we get your R rated cut?!!
ROLL ON JOHN RAMBO! by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies	Jun 27th, 2007 03:37:03 AM
Cant wait to see Stallone literally tear people to pieces whilst calling all their mothers dirty cunts. Fuck greedy studios watering down our beloved film series.
My Review... by TheRealMoriarty	Jun 27th, 2007 03:37:35 AM
... for this one will show up whenever I get around to seeing it. Since Fox has long since banned me from all press screenings in LA, I'm not sure when that will be. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe this weekend. Same thing with TRANSFORMERS, lads. Sorry. Wish the studios would just man up and show me the movies and take their chances, but that's the way it is.
Best reviewed Die Hard since the first... by MyManD316	Jun 27th, 2007 03:41:28 AM
So fuck the geek opinion (most of which haven't even seen the movie yet), I'm gonna go on the overwhelming majority opinion and assume it'll be a fun summer flick.
Saw the movie.. by triple-	Jun 27th, 2007 03:52:55 AM
You couldn't be more wrong. I'll have to remind myself to completely ignore your reviews in the future.
They know what you look like at press screenings? by Doc_Strange	Jun 27th, 2007 03:53:01 AM
Must suck to be an honest critic if all it's gonna get you is banned from a movie studio's screening. I can't believe they even know what you look like on account of your screen name. But from what I understand, you ain't missing much. No big loss....
Is Rothman pissed at you, Drew? by FilmCritic3000	Jun 27th, 2007 03:56:34 AM
You reveal what we've already known about 20th Century Fox since Rothman took over (that the emperor truly has no clothes) in your "X-Men: The Last Stand" script review and now he's a pissy little ass. Well, he is anyway. Since Rothman started at the studio in 2000, there's been a steady stream of mindless pablum released by 20th Century Fox over the years - the "Big Momma's House" films, the "Cheaper By The Dozen" remake and its sequel, "Date Movie", "Epic Movie", "Norbit", "The Omen" remake, "Night At The Museum" - to name a few; meanwhile talented directors whose ideas aren't in line with the bland corporate mantra of the studio these days are buried because teenage test audiences "didn't get it" (i.e. Mike Judge's "Idiocracy") or their projects are constantly micromanaged to death until it barely resembles its original conception or it leaves the director resolved never to work with the studio again. Thankfully, Fox Searchlight and Fox Atomic operate independently of the main studio, with their own president's (Peter Rice is president of Fox Searchlight, Debbie Liebling of Fox Atomic), as these days most of the films these two specialty divisions release are much better than the rank offal the main studio releases. As for "Live Free Or Die Hard", I'll wait for the "UNRATED" DVD, which will consist of digitally-added blood to the action scenes - http://tinyurl.com/2jwt7h - and probably three minutes of footage not screened for the MPAA, which is all the "UNRATED" stamp means. Yipee ki yay, motherfucker...oh wait...I meant fricker...
15 cert in the UK means nothing by Gabba-UK	Jun 27th, 2007 03:59:10 AM
Check out the BBFC web-site for it rating decision "Contains frequent action violence and one use of strong language" So no, same version as Quint and the rest of the US will see i.e. pussified version. I'm with others saying it on the TB you will see the 'intended' version on DVD in 3 months. This seems to be the pattern with most films these days. I remember when a hardcore action movie had swearing, graphic violence and if you were very lucky, sex. The chances of us seeing the likes of Total Recall, the first Die Hard, Predator and others of that ilk are now minimal. The corporations, marketing depts and suits are now in charge of movies from the big studios, only caring for that first opening weekend, getting the punters in with promises of wanton violence and destruction, then stiffing them so the 'moral majority' aren't offended by anything 'naughty' in the film. Apart from adult drama's and Gore-Porn, nothing seems to get an 18 cert in the UK anymore. I can't remember in the last 5-6 years when a pure action film got an 18 (well maybe Kill Bill). And its not because the BBFC are not as stringent as they used to be, its rather than no one makes and submits them anymore. Sad days indeed.
PG-13 the new "R" ? by Zardoz	Jun 27th, 2007 04:04:07 AM
Fred Topel of Can magazine says this about DH4 : "There is more carnage in this movie than in any R-rated film I can remember. Really, PG-13 is the new R. They play a sound effect over the MF but you know what he's saying..." Is he right? Are PG-13 films that violent, but you just can't say "fuck" in them? God, we are really stupid about what we restrict in this country. Chop someone's head off and it's cool but show people having sex and it's XXX! Kill a hooker in GTA4, that's okay, but fuck her and it's AO! I love living with Puritans in this day and age...
I fucked up... by FilmCritic3000	Jun 27th, 2007 04:10:07 AM
"Norbit" was released by Paramount, not 20th Century Fox. Details are details, even when it comes to shitty movies.
Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Maggie Q are HOT by CuervoJones	Jun 27th, 2007 04:44:39 AM
Hotter than Megabotron. Anyway, does McClane smoke cigarettes in this movie?
Cheers Gabba by abiggerboat	Jun 27th, 2007 04:47:15 AM
Very sad days indeed! Oh well, I'll still go see it. But I'm more excited about the DVD release than actually seeing this at the cinema, whcih is very a big shame. Fox Execs = (Gunshot)ing clown shoes!!
you guys may have also noticed... by abiggerboat	Jun 27th, 2007 04:48:34 AM
I can't fucking spell for shit today. Sorry!!
Going to skip it at the Cineplex... by KillaKane	Jun 27th, 2007 04:48:56 AM
Quint's always consistent IMHO, I'm a fan of the series so far and don't want to be depressed by what generally sounds like a compromised and inferior addition to the DH cannon. I think the Bourne Ultimatum is going to be the saving grace of this summer's rosta of event flicks.
Bullshit! by RobFromBackEast	Jun 27th, 2007 04:55:50 AM
I've seen it. While McClane is undoubtedly watered down for a younger audience this is still a solid action flick with plenty to entertain folk. Whilst I would've liked to have seen a mouthier McClane, it still works regardless. Some of you people had it in for this film from the fucking day Wiseman was announced as the director, and never gave the guy a chance. Also, your hatred for things fox is becoming tiresome. I did not love this movie, and I doubt few will; but it is NOWHERE near as bad as Quint is making out.
Just saw the midnight showing... by Darth_Gonz	Jun 27th, 2007 04:56:58 AM
...and fucking loved it. It's a great summer popcorn action flick with explosions galore and Bruce Willis killing people in imaginative ways. Anyone who dislikes this movie probably thinks that dubbed, black-and-white French arthouse films are "deep". These kind of people are truly the chemotherapy on the cancer of fun. Get bent.
DIE HARD more like DIE SOFT! by Velcron the persistent	Jun 27th, 2007 05:03:51 AM
I'll say!!!!!!!!
You people and your high expectations by Darth_Gonz	Jun 27th, 2007 05:11:15 AM
Can't you ever just go see a movie and enjoy it without demanding Sir Laurence Olivier-esque performances out of everyone involved? I mean GodDAMN.
But..I liked the ejector seat explosion in die hard 2 by knifeandfork	Jun 27th, 2007 05:14:55 AM
Sure, die hard 2 was a fucking disgrace but that bit was cool ! Anyway this reveiw pretty much confirms my suspicions about die hard 4 . I guess its up to stallone to restore our faith in the senior ass kickers with rambo 4. And if he fails then its up to harrison ford with indy 4. And if he dissapoints then its up to ....... I dont know , don the dragon wilson ?
I agree with many of Quint's points by BitterMan23	Jun 27th, 2007 05:16:04 AM
Though I didn't hate it. Disappointed, yes, but only when stacked against the other 3 die hards. When i compare it to other shoot em up PG-13 action movies like Bait or whatever, it ranks favorably.
I'm surprised how excited I am about John Rambo by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 27th, 2007 05:23:48 AM
I thought it was a horrible idea when I first heard it, but I really liked Rocky Balboa, so maybe he can do the same trick again. Also, I re-watched First Blood the other week and it's a surprisingly good film. Really solid action, some genuine substance to it (reflections on Vietnam and the poor treatment of veterans), and a pretty good performance by Stallone. If he can make this new sequel more like the first one, which is what he did with Rocky Balboa, then I reckon it'll be a really good one. P.S. Die Hard. On topic.
Quint must have a limp wrist... by Booty Traps	Jun 27th, 2007 05:29:33 AM
its much better than 2 and 3. Its ridiculous but oh so entertaining. Things blow up, McClane talks smack, and lots of bad guys die but on a more epic scale then we are used to with Die Hard.
THE HOWLING!!!! by Kamala	Jun 27th, 2007 05:35:25 AM
Remake being made now for Fall 2008. Starring Mandy Moore in the main role as the news anchor. This time the werewolves will be all CGI!!! Directed by Mark Steven Johnson!
This is the first summersequel that I want tosee again! by GobBluth06	Jun 27th, 2007 05:36:45 AM
I really liked it! It was the first summer sequel that I want to see again. For me the PG-13 wasn't really an issue. I don't think more blood would have made it more entertaining and I didn't really pay attention to the lack of f bombs. Yes, Timothy Olyphant could have been a better villain, but I don't think that he was a bad actor in the movie. I think he was a victim of the scripting of the bad guy. I think if they would have given his character more of a hands on role like Hans in Die Hard 1, he would have been better. I think that was my only drawback to the movie. I thought the action pieces in the movie were amazing! I think if you go into the movie with the purpose of critiquing all the bad stuff then you are going to not like it regardless. If you go into the movie to have a good time and want to see a great summer actioneer, then you will enjoy it. I thought it was just as entertaining as the previous Die Hard's. Of course nothing beats the original, but this was still really enjoyable.
I just read the CHUD review by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 27th, 2007 05:40:36 AM
It's not bad, actually, and it raised an interesting point: this is a Die Hard that's aimed more for the current generation of action fans who like Michael Bay and prefer to see the cartoonier type of action that's popular these days. He also said that fans of the original Die Hard who were hoping to see something in the same vein are the ones who would be most disappointed. It did make me wonder, is that such a bad thing? Who should they cater a 21st century Die Hard to - us older types who want something with better pacing and characterisation and more realistic action, or the people who fill the cinemas each each week, ie: the types who like cars flipping about all over the shop like they're made out of sponge and frequent super massive explosions at the drop of a hat?
Those of you shock Willis was pimping a sub-par movie by PacmanFever	Jun 27th, 2007 05:45:54 AM
Must be very naive; enviously so in fact. And I agree with whoever it was who said the early Walter B talkbacks were great. Sure maybe the movie will turn out to be crap, maybe he was hyperbolically describing his experiences filming the movie, and maybe he didn't follow through on one of his statements, but it was still cool while it lasted.
it felt like MI2 by BitterMan23	Jun 27th, 2007 05:46:40 AM
Where they designed action sequences first and then wrote a story that would somehow incorporate them. Thats why instead of logical progression, we suddenly have a jet blowing up a bridge. The only part of the whole movie that felt like Die Hard was when they got into the car accident, and McClane looked around and figured out what was going on. I dont know what exactly did it for me, but for 60 seconds or so, i finally had the Die Hard 4 ive been wanting for 12 years. after it went back to being just another action movie only with the master onscreen.
Stamper by PacmanFever	Jun 27th, 2007 05:50:05 AM
I agree with a lot of what you have said in these talkbacks, but are you seriously suggesting that a person has not achieved manhood unless they have been assaulted by a bevy of cops or skinheads?
how predictable by Lost Prophet	Jun 27th, 2007 05:52:39 AM
didn't see this coming. Honest mind you, I generally disagree with Quint so this gives me some sort of perverse hope.
So I Take It This is The Lethal Weapon 4 of the Series? by BoyNamedSue	Jun 27th, 2007 06:01:43 AM
Way over the top cartoonish, and most likely the final entry in the series? Looks like my worst fears about this movie have been realized. Too bad about John McTiernan's legal problems, otherwise he could have come back and directed a kick-ass movie!
TOO SOON!!! by Pageiv	Jun 27th, 2007 06:02:09 AM
Why couldnt Willis fight, oh I dont know, real terrorists, like al-Qaeda? Maybe in Die Hard 5 he'll take on corperate polluters?
Remind me to ignore your future reviews, Quint. by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 27th, 2007 06:10:49 AM
Cause this was one biased piece of hate. LFODH was the best summer flick I've seen so far. It may be a little (and the emphasis here is on LITTLE) letdown for die-hard DIE HARD fans. But if you guys are not able to look beyond your hate and mindless (and endless) bitching then you'll miss one of best action movies this year.
Why couldn't he fight al-Qaeda? by Kamala	Jun 27th, 2007 06:12:49 AM
Because CAIR and other Islamic groups would be all over it, saying it gives muslims a bad name. Funny, I think things like bombing a school run by the UN or shooting a nun in the back would do more of that. It is much safer to use some white guys from europe (irish, former soviet union, etc....)
LIVE FREE SUCKS HARD - FOX BLOWS by spud mcspud	Jun 27th, 2007 06:27:12 AM
Seriously, was anybody surprised by this? You did all see the derivative shit they called the UNDERWORLD series, yes? When someone makes his career shooting derivative shit, being handed the reins to an awesome franchise just means he is going to make derivative shit named after an awesome franchise. FOX fucked up in 1999 with THE PHANTOM MENACE and haven't stopped since. STAR WARS, ALIEN, PREDATOR, ELEKTRA, DAREDEVIL, X-MEN, LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY SHITE, FROM HELL, ERAGON, DIE HARD - the amount of potential from these comic book properties, fantasy / sci-fi / action franchises is mind-blowing. The results from fox have been chunk-inducing. FUCK YOU FOX MOVIES!!! Go back to your right-wing media blackout Rupert Murdoch arse-licking propaganda bullshit, 'cos you sure as shit CAN'T MAKE GOOD MOVIES!!! That is all.
I refuse by Willowwind	Jun 27th, 2007 06:27:24 AM
...to listen. La la la la la. Going to see this today and can't wait. But then, I saw Perfect Stranger and I'm still waiting for the refund of that ticket and the return of my wasted time. BW is a bouncer. Sucky movie, good movie, sucky movie, good movie. Perfect Stranger was sucky so I have to believe that this will be decent. Even if it isn't the best, I'm looking forward to The Last Full Measure. Kick ass cast for that one.
Whatsup? by TheDonJohnSon	Jun 27th, 2007 06:29:04 AM
with all the positive reviews from the critics??? I saw this POS at midnight and agree with Quint 100%, it wasn't a Die Hard. Maybe a Suck Hard but definitely not a Die Hard. And anyone who says "it was a worthy effort" Fuck them and their mother, and while Im at it....Fuck their grandmother too cause their grandmother was probably more of a badass then anyone in LFODH. Bottom line; A pussy villain/sidekick, a director who works better with vampires and werewolves than seasoned action stars and Bruce Willis. He either needs money or wants to feel young again by attempting to compete with a bunch of shitty sequels. I think John McClane's days are numbered in a week, which might explain the mid week opening. Try to squeeze a few bucks out before the big boys arrive(Transformers)
Knightsong, you're bang on by Tom Whitaker	Jun 27th, 2007 06:36:52 AM
And that's why I didn't watch the trailer for this, or Transformers, and I'm sure I enjoyed both more for it. It still doesn't excuse disappointing films, though.
first bay raped my by ominus	Jun 27th, 2007 06:40:39 AM
first bay raped my childhood,now wiseman raped my manhood.ah well i guess life goes on
This Review is BULL by RubenDaniel	Jun 27th, 2007 06:58:50 AM
First off you gonna tell me that die hard 2 and 3 had better characters you could connect to? Do you even remember Die hard 2 and 3?? That annoying janitor that yelled "IWO JIMA!!!!" or the plot holes that existed in THAT movie. Second you manage to say how much fun and cool the action scenes were then immediately return to internet smug bastard and say you can't "connect" to it? It's an action movie , if you wanna connect with something go watch black snake moan. Since when do you feel you need to have some kind of connection with the bad guys???? This is does what it sets out to do and for that it kicks ass. SO WHAT if it's pg-13. you telling me an F bomb is gonna make you feel "connected" gimme a break...
Pacman by stamper	Jun 27th, 2007 07:13:44 AM
I just say nerds cannot in 2007 expect ANY movie to have the look and feel of a 1987 movie, that's absurd. Most people here including Quint will dislike DH 4 because they realise that the Mac guy is THEM and they are not MANLY ENOUGH to live and let die hard like Mc Clane. They need to get out more (and get laid) really ;-)
seriously by RubenDaniel	Jun 27th, 2007 07:15:54 AM
Quint shows how out of TOUCH these internet fanboys really are. There is nothing wrong with this movie. It succeeds in doing what it set out to do, provide good action and a fun time. Damn complainers. IT really bugs me that Quint can say he enjoyed the action but then can't say he even slighty enjoyed the movie.
PS : you all missed it the first time around and again by stamper	Jun 27th, 2007 07:17:27 AM
Yeah, it's funny to see guys who weren't there to experience the originals in the theaters, mouthing off for the first DH movie they finally see in the theater just because it doesn't relate to their wanky experience in their home theater. Missed AGAIN ! hahaha
Yeah...I ain't seein this one by kafka07	Jun 27th, 2007 07:23:01 AM
At least there's still Transformers to look forward to, maybe.
RubenDaniel by RobFromBackEast	Jun 27th, 2007 07:28:55 AM
Right on man, hit that fuckin nail on the head.
Al Leong !!! by Prometeo	Jun 27th, 2007 07:33:42 AM
Al Leong, as the villaneous candy robber Uli was one of the highlights of the first Die Hard. If you can't place him there, I bet there's a bunch of movies on the 80's and half the 90's where he appeared just to die onscreen, sometimes twice a movie. A regular on the A-Team death list, I remember seeing him dying on The Last Action Hero, They Live, Big Trouble in Little China, Godzilla, Lethal Weapon... and who can forget him as no other than Genghis Khan in Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure. I think this guy (known in my country as 'that chinese that always dies' is long due for an homage on the circles of action movie freaks. Who's with me?
Oh well... by Saithus	Jun 27th, 2007 07:36:49 AM
I am still seeing it. It'll be nice to see a Die Hard movie in theaters.
Vern's review has arrived! by Franklin T Marmoset	Jun 27th, 2007 07:42:54 AM
We can therefore abandon this horribly strecthed talkback and go over there instead. P.S. I am with you, Prometeo. There was a time when no movie villain's gang was complete without Al Leong onboard in his soon-to-die henchman capacity. Possibly, he is the greatest movie henchman of all time.
Damn you Michael Bay by MCMLXXVI	Jun 27th, 2007 07:45:29 AM
Damn you Michael Bay
So then we should all just wait for the UNRATED DVD... by FilmCritic3000	Jun 27th, 2007 07:54:27 AM
I mean, if 20th Century Fox is going to digitally add blood and restore the profanity to the film when it comes out on DVD, why see this in the theater? Wait the three-five months, watch on DVD, and turn on your home theater system.
Where is the Order of the Phoenix Review? by disruptors1	Jun 27th, 2007 08:00:04 AM
I saw Die Hard 4 last night and had a good time.
Disappointed... by Fenrisulfr	Jun 27th, 2007 08:18:05 AM
... even before seeing it. When I woke up this morning I thought maybe I should go and give it a try tonight. After all, most reviews are good. It's supposed to be a fun summer action fest. But this is a Die Hard movie we're talking about. Not just your yearly, forgettable big action movie. Casual moviegoers will go see it, and enjoy it. I suspect it'll be a but harder to swallow for Die Hard fans, or at least, 80s action fans. Then I read Quint's extremely negative review, plus a few more here and there. And I don't think I'll go watch it after all. I have that feeling... that visceral feeling that if I go I'll be disappointed. Also, I don't want to be part of the profit made by Fox on this film, when they shit on the original Aliens, Predator or even Die Hard with their crappy sequels/remakes/crossovers. That would make me sick. So I guess it'll be the "DOWNLOAD4FREE OR RENT HARD" way for me.
These reviewers have me lost by godzillasushi	Jun 27th, 2007 08:31:04 AM
One guy who hates every movie ever, loves this one. Then, I at least figured Quint would say "Well, its your typical Mission Impossible 3" and instead...reviews are confusing for this one.
I liked it... by ltgalloway	Jun 27th, 2007 08:33:15 AM
I actually liked this one. Its certainly different than the Die Hard efforts in the past, but thats kinda a good thing, right? Don't get me wrong. I loved the first DH and I liked the other sequels too, but for different reasons. I for one would rather not see the same movie be made again, no matter how good it was. This was a different take on the franchise, and it belongs in the cannon with the rest. I think Bruce brings it for this movie and the action scenes have some truly amazing stuff. For those concerned about the lack of the word Fuck in the movie, I heard it plenty of times from folks in the audience, in response to some of the craziness packed in this flick. The lack of gore or "money shots" did not take away from the action sequences at all. I was expecting nothing from this movie, and I would pay to see it again. Admittedly, there were parts were I was yelling, "Bullshit" in my head, but I was smiling throughout because recognizing how ridiculous it is and accepting it is what makes it really enjoyable. Maybe I just have a different philosophy?
Quint makes it out to be better than it REALLY was by FirstPostersSuck	Jun 27th, 2007 08:33:38 AM
Dennis Franz was an ass all the way around in DH-2. Before he made it big on the little screen you will remember his character as the asshole cop who disagreed with even the most logical comments from McClain just to make us hate him. I'm not saying Quint's wrong on all levels but just remember that the first DH was the best and the rest were kinda lame even way back when. NOBODY CERTAINLY THOUGHT THAT DENNIS FRANZ WAS GOOD IN DH-2 BEFORE HE BECAME POPULAR, LET'S NOT DO IT NOW. Fuck, in 10 years, if Olyphant becomes huge, Quint'll be saying this was a great role. whatever.
Never on my radar by chi3fhog	Jun 27th, 2007 08:39:31 AM
I've seen (and enjoyed) every Die Hard movie in the theater, but I had no interest in LFoDH from the beginning. I'll catch it on cable someday.
Dennis Franz by chi3fhog	Jun 27th, 2007 08:42:35 AM
You know I agree with FPS. His role in DH2 was just an asshole. I do wish he would do more movies (no cop roles, please). I didn't really like the movie, but I always liked Franz's role in City of Angels.
I can't decide whether I'm going to rent this one or... by rbatty024	Jun 27th, 2007 08:42:50 AM
download it. Probably a rental. I think FF2 is the only film I carry enough disdain to download. Anyway, I love all three Die Hards but this looks so far from that series that seeing it in the theaters isn't even worth it.
PG-13 Die Hard Raped My Childhood. by uss cygnus	Jun 27th, 2007 08:48:24 AM
Die Hard 2 is "Saving Private Ryan" compared to this garbage.
THE DEATH OF THE ACTION BLOCKBUSTER by performingmonkey	Jun 27th, 2007 09:07:42 AM
Name me a big action flick from the last few years that doesn't suck. This doesn't include superhero flicks or fantasies (e.g. Pirates, LOTR). They all suck harder than a virgin prom queen.
So looking forward to by Baltimoron	Jun 27th, 2007 09:08:55 AM
After a summer of a disappointing Spiderman 3, a disappointing Pirates 3, a disappointing Ocean's 13, now we have this to be disappointed at. Oh well, there's still hope in Ratatouille, Transformers, and Potter.
Mori, Fox has banned you from their press screenings? by Mr Incredible	Jun 27th, 2007 09:09:52 AM
Well, that's mighty (gunshot)ing mature of them. Corporate hacks. Memflix lives on!
Saving Private Ryan sucked balls by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 27th, 2007 09:12:34 AM
you moron
Motoko Kusanagi - you're crazy dude by just pillow talk	Jun 27th, 2007 09:24:29 AM
crazy.
Justin Long... by Baltimoron	Jun 27th, 2007 09:27:55 AM
...is a funny guy. If you don't believe me, check out "Wild West Comedy Show: 30 Days & 30 Nights - Hollywood to the Heartland". He just gets a bad rap for making some loot off of Mac commercials, when he himself has said that he couldn't care less whether he used a PC or a Mac.
Thanks Quint... by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 27th, 2007 09:32:55 AM
You just saved me $12
Check Rotten Tomatoes after general release by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 27th, 2007 09:38:07 AM
it'll be a different story.
Judge a movie based on what audience it targets by emp	Jun 27th, 2007 09:57:46 AM
That's what I always say. Being directed by Len Wiseman, this movie is made for a retarded audience. Remember that.
Eight year olds, Dude. by DanDelion	Jun 27th, 2007 10:10:52 AM
Top notch on the Lebowski reference! Now to see if the review matches up...
You know what made Mission: Impossible so stupid? by WarmFuzzyBalls	Jun 27th, 2007 10:14:17 AM
A helicopter flying through a fucking tunnel. And the blade missing Cruise by a half-inch. That kind of over-the-top ridiculousness is insulting the audience. That's what Die Hard 4 is. An insult. Mori was right. Fuck Fox.
And the greatest movie henchman award goes to... by Prometeo	Jun 27th, 2007 10:15:30 AM
Al Leong !!! Also nominated for Deathtime Achivement Award ;)
So... Yeah. I was talking to Justin Long, and... by DrAbnerRavenwood	Jun 27th, 2007 10:17:39 AM
Met Long on the set of "Walk Hard" in which he has a cameo. He told me they shot for PG-13. Also heard from various other sources that Willis was firmly in charge of the shoot - and that as a producer, basically ran that set to the point that Wiseman (who I've also heard is a great dude) got an ulcer and had to be rushed to the hospital. It'd go something like this: Wiseman would set up a scene, Willis would show up, Wiseman would go through the blocking and then Bruce would say, "let's take a walk." They'd go away, and when they returned, Bruce would have changed everything. A 1 to 3 hour set-up later, they'd finally shoot what Bruce wanted. It's a shame, cuz Wiseman sounded like he really wanted to make something close to the first one. Oh, well. They lost me at PG-13 anyway.
Dead on review Quint. by clockpolitiks	Jun 27th, 2007 10:18:09 AM
I saw this last night, and I had the same exact problems with it.
I just read an interview with Willis where he by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 27th, 2007 10:21:47 AM
called AICN talkbackeers "dark". Hilarious.
damn spelling by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 27th, 2007 10:23:00 AM
talkbackers it is then. sheesh.
Films where you need to lower your expectations... by ScarranHalfBreed	Jun 27th, 2007 10:23:19 AM
...in order to enjoy the film are... shite. No, really. And what the hell's up with this Talkback?
I fucking hate that I should have to lower by Lost Prophet	Jun 27th, 2007 10:29:37 AM
my expectations, and therefore standards, to judge a film as good. If It doesn't measure up to my expectations/standards then, to me, it cannot be good. Simple really
Dennis Franz in DH2 by wilbur gray	Jun 27th, 2007 10:38:44 AM
His part in the second movie was no different from Paul Gleason's idiot character in the first.I remember either Siskel or Ebert giving the first film a thumbs down simply on the basis of having such a character who takes an illogical,contrary opinion to everything McClane says.That said,there was nothing wrong with Franz's acting in the part any more than Gleason's.Even though NYPD Blue wasn't on the air then,a lot of television viewers recognized Franz from Hill Street Blues.Likewise Fred Dalton Thompson,who had a memorable huckster part on an arc of TV'S Wiseguy.
Paul Gleason is what's needed in 99% of today's films by Stuntcock Mike	Jun 27th, 2007 10:47:56 AM
"PIZZA FOR HITLER"
I'd rather eat a spoonful of my own splooge... by samuraiyao	Jun 27th, 2007 10:49:15 AM
Seriously i would do it if you show me this movie again!!!
Kids-in-Mind gave it a 6 in violence. by Fenrisulfr	Jun 27th, 2007 10:50:19 AM
While MI3 had a 7. With a Vengeance had an 8. Heck, even Revenge of The Sith is more violent than the latest Die Hard (scored a 7). What a fu(Gunshot) joke.
Die Hard 3 hatred? by fuldamobil	Jun 27th, 2007 10:54:02 AM
Really? People hate that film? I love it. Jeremey Irons, Sam Jackson, "When Johnny Comes Marching Home." What a fun movie.
Bruce Willis needs no aplogists by liljuniorbrown	Jun 27th, 2007 11:01:59 AM
Bruce is the man. He's been there done that and provided me personaly with more hours of pure movie going excitement than I can express. I gotta go out on a limb and say that I enjoyed Die Hard 3 more than 2 even though the pacing was a bit long for me. It's funny, I remember being told on this site not to go see Shooter with Mark Wahlberg and I loved the shit out of that movie.
Sniffle by Lando Griffin	Jun 27th, 2007 11:02:11 AM
Why WalterB? Why did you lie to us?
What the hell is a "Maggie Q."? by Stalin vs Predator	Jun 27th, 2007 11:03:50 AM
That's the third time I see that in a "Die Limp" review. Is that someone whose name is truncated by every reviewer to just its first letter? Or is it one of those organisms - known as [c]rappers, I believe - that's ashamed of its last name? Since this is a movie in which Kewhine Smith has a role, I gather it's the latter?
RE: "What the hell is a "Maggie Q."?" by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2007 11:13:09 AM
Answer: A TURBO HOTTIE.
Transformers will Save us by Robots In Das Guys	Jun 27th, 2007 11:33:21 AM
Bring on the Bayhem. DHINO! DHINO!
Uh Quint... by slone13	Jun 27th, 2007 12:24:49 PM
...did you miss the shot where the helicopter pilot hits the ground hard, collapsing and rolling around next to the mangled flaming copter wreck? Not sure what cut you saw, but he hardly "stands up and walks away like nothing happened". Regardless of what the Aint It Cool peeps are spewing, save Vern, Live Free or Die Hard was way better than I had expected. And easily the most fun I've had at the movies this summer so far. Also the PG-13 vs R factor is a non issue, contrary to what most idiots would have you believe.
I don't hate Die Hard 3, I just don't like it by Spandau Belly	Jun 27th, 2007 12:51:41 PM
The first half is pretty good and I like Sam Jackson, but the second half and especially the ending are bad. I agree that Lethal Weapon is a suprerior series. It had a much better set up for sequelization. Die Hard was based so much on coincidence and was so much of an ensemble cast effort that it's hard to find a way to do another one. I think Die Hard 3 was the best idea for a sequel, too bad it was horribly mispaced and uneven. The Lethal Weapon sequels work because the first one was just seeing these guys on the job. It wasn't a freak circumstance like Die Hard, their job is to take down drug crews. So every movie can have them taking down a new crew and dealing with new personal problems, whereas Die Hard not so much.
I wish Paul Verhoeven would direct a Die Hard film by successor	Jun 27th, 2007 12:55:23 PM
Now that would be something to see. Get a good writer like Gary Goldman in there and let the mayhem fly. X rated carnage mixed with subtle satire on U.S. foreign policy. But I couldn't blame him if he didn't want to do it. Who would want to deal with the studios these days?
Ugh! Michael Bay will save us? by lost.rules	Jun 27th, 2007 01:10:31 PM
Where's my gun?
Gruber seized a building. Stuart seized an airport... by Bill Clay	Jun 27th, 2007 01:22:52 PM
Timothy Olyphant turns all the traffic lights green. And disconnects your broadband. SCARY!
What's more terrifying? Islamo-Terrorists Vs. Hackers by WarmFuzzyBalls	Jun 27th, 2007 01:31:46 PM
Wouldn't a cyber-security expert be the right person to take on a hacker? This movie is DUMB.
Good Review Quint by sevenrivera	Jun 27th, 2007 01:37:37 PM
Way to call it like it is and expect more from an action movie than cartoonish action, prominent product placement and cheesy stupid one-liners. Go to hell FOX and fuck you michael bay.
I must have seen a different movie by Razorback	Jun 27th, 2007 01:57:49 PM
Because the movie I saw was fun and even badass at times. Hell, it was no worse than 2 and 3. I even enjoyed it more walking out than I did 3.
I'm still going to see it tonight by Abominable Snowcone	Jun 27th, 2007 02:02:45 PM
And expect to be so aroused by it that I'll have to manipulate with my hand. No haters can phase me on this one, sorry. Notsaying you're wrong but I'll have to see for myself
OK,who the (gunshot) stretched the (gunshot)in talkback by Pennsy	Jun 27th, 2007 02:10:32 PM
??
I believe (gunshot) will be the new GOTTA EAT by Mr Incredible	Jun 27th, 2007 02:15:14 PM
Just an observation.
I thought quint's review was very sensible by mrdinky	Jun 27th, 2007 02:20:32 PM
I still haven't seen the movie and am in no rush to, but I will prolly have seen it by monday. what I mean, though, is that I can see everything he's trashes the movie about right there in the preview. and the pg-13 thing on top of that. bruce (I love you!) could post on here 7 days a week. it's not going to change the fact that this movie was a transparent, watered-down byproduct of the greatest action movie of all time. len wiseman? are you kidding? UNDERWORLD was fun action-fantasy. UNDERWORLD: EVOLUTION was a meandering mess. and that was HIS OWN FRANCHISE. what would you expect him to do with someone else's baby? If they really want to make a kickass DIE HARD sequel, they'll give Shane Black carte blanche to write & direct. look at the pedigree: LETHAL WEAPON, LAST BOY SCOUT, and the first flick where he's completely in command, KISS KISS, BANG BANG! As long as Renny "the Chud" Harlin isn't pissing on the script behind the cameras, Black is the PERFECT man to guide us through the wrong man in the wrong place antics of John Mc-fookin'-Clane. and you damn well bet it will be a (good) R-movie! but as it stands, this is like giving the X-franchise to Bret Ratner and expecting any kind of storytelling competence.
Thanks. Now I won't waste any time with this flick. by JDanielP	Jun 27th, 2007 02:21:50 PM
Unfortunate, being that I'm a fan of the previous flicks.
500 bucks says... by thekylegassproject	Jun 27th, 2007 02:35:50 PM
harry like this movie.
Quints review is not sensible, it is bullshit by Razorback	Jun 27th, 2007 02:38:15 PM
See the fuckin' movie. It is badass.
I think I'll live free of Die Hard by briantag	Jun 27th, 2007 03:07:18 PM
I grew up with these flicks, but LFODH looks so shitty itty itty... I can't bring myself to watch a good franchise go down in flames, in front of my eyes.
Me-thinks Bruce is... by david19	Jun 27th, 2007 03:10:06 PM
full of shit. Before three weeks ago I had never seen a Die Hard movie before, but after Brucie showed up on AICN I became intrigued and decided to catch up on my Yippee-Ki-Yay one liners. And like most I fell in love with Mr McClane. Die Hard was a lot of fun, Die Harder was like the annoying little brother who tried to copy the original, and Die Hard 3 was like the son of Die Hard who, although not as good as the original, got the character and snarky attitude of the original right. Throw in an equally funny and snarky buddy played by Sam Jackson and, despite being hindered by an ending that sort of limped into the credits, you had what would have been a satisifying ribbon to a decent trilogy. The problem with LFODH is not that its a bad Die Hard movie, the problem is is that its not really a Die Hard movie at all. You see, to have a Die Hard movie you need Bruce Willis playing John McClane, and in LFODH Bruce Willis is not playing McClane. With the previous three movies fresh in my mind I had a VERY clear impression of McClane in my mind, and my impression of McClane is simple. Here is a guy who, aside from being a bad ass cop, he has a hard time figuring out real life. Once he has a gun in his hand, glass in his feet, and terrorists to kill he finds his purpose in life, and even though terrorists may be blowing up buildings, killing civilians, and threatening his family, he seems to forget all that and goes into a seriously psychotic mode where, while he may complain, he is having fun. John McClane is disturbed, and when the adrenaline is flowing, and he is being shot at, the calm collected guy we see at the beginning of Die Hard, the guy trying to work things out with his wife, transforms into a lunatic who enjoys killing bad guys, enjoys jumping off buildings, enjoys walking over glass, enjoys taunting madmen while picking off their henchmen one by one. There is a moment, when Bruce Willis trying to play John McClane, starts to talk like John McClane, starts to rave like John McClane, starts to get that crazy lopsided look in his eyes like John McClane, then he crashes a car into a helicopter like John McClane, and for a moment you think that maybe the reason John McClane isnt acting like John McClane is because over the past few years John McClane hasn't had any bad guys to run after to distract him from the problems he always has with his family, and over the years he has forgotten what being John McClane is like. For a moment I thought I saw John McClane coming out, and from then on I thought the rest of the movie was going to be yippee-ki-yay crazy cowboy McClane going after terrorists, walking around with a strut and a smile despite the fact that he keeps being shot at, the world is falling apart, and his daughter is being held hostage. The only reason McClane needs a buddy is to either have someone to talk trash with or talk trash to. Sam Jackson was great because he was as much a trash talker as McClane and with the two of them talking trash to each other, with each other and to the bad guys, both agreeing that the word "fuck" is the funniest word in the world when you are in constant danger and trying to piss off captains and mercenaries, you end up with a buddy movie that works, despite the fact that you already have a terrific lead. LFODH has none of that. There are some chuckles here and there, but there are chuckles in Spiderman 3 as well, that doesnt make it a good Spiderman movie. Bruce is just too reserved and he has lost that edge of insanity that McClane had that made it more interesting to watch him shoot bad guys. I was watching the movie last night trying to figure out what it was that was bothering me, and after the "car destroying helicopter" scene, it hit me. I wasn't smirking the entire movie, because John McClane was not in his wife beater making fun of the disaster he was in. John McClane was babysitting some kid who, for some reason, was complaining about classic rock, calling a fat unfunny Kevin Smith the Warlock, and getting snarky with someone twice his age who had just saved his life just so that the writers could try to inject some forced humor into a movie called Die Hard that did not have John McClane. Add to that some of the worst editing and dubbing I have seen in ages, a ridiculous "Im going to drive this truck up a ramp into an office and down an elevator shaft and still fail to kill this girl on impact" scene, an inexplicable rolling explosion of gas, an eye-rolling semi-truck vs. fighter jet collapsing CGI freeway scene, and an anti-climactic, lifeless, boring ending, and a horrible use of the famous "yippee-ki-yay we can say fuck once in a PG-13 movie but we are not gunna anyways" scene, and you have LFODH. Len Wiseman is a weak director, in the company of Brett Ratner, WS Anderson, and Mark Steven Johnson and as long as these fellas keep making movies we are going to keep getting movie like LFODH.
Way to stretch the talkback, frg10, you friggin (bang). by Walterego	Jun 27th, 2007 03:15:47 PM
Ten question marks would have been plenty, instead of holding the key down.
frg10 is a pussy for fucking up this talkback! by GQtaste	Jun 27th, 2007 03:54:11 PM
What a faggot bitch!
Early reviews of Transformers are in... by Zardoz	Jun 27th, 2007 04:33:28 PM
and everyone so far says that the action and SFX are mind-blowing, but the plot, characters and sit-com humor are awful. Hmm. Pretty much what I was expecting...
Bravo Quint! Also, david19... by Strabo	Jun 27th, 2007 04:51:33 PM
Great review. You've confirmed our worst fears for this movie. Sad to see it happen, but, there's no sense pulling punches on this turd. Also, your post is great, david19. Glad to see another new member in Die Hard fandom.
YIPPEE KI-YAY MUTHA-(GUNSHOT AT FRG10) by WarmFuzzyBalls	Jun 27th, 2007 04:53:17 PM
I thought they made the Talkbacks idiot-proof but guess not.
Zardoz by Mr. Nice Gaius	Jun 27th, 2007 04:53:18 PM
Are you referring to the Darkhorizon's review? Cause that one gets a bit contradictory towards the end...like it really didn't want to admit that it was good. Out of the four early reviews available on RT, all have given it a thumbs-up. And if you were to check out the fansites, you'd find that there are many more screening reviews coming in from some of the most pissed-off "ranters" who have been more than pleasantly surprised. Sure, the film may not be "A Lion in Winter". But it's starting to sound like it's pretty damn cool.
margins by nochez	Jun 27th, 2007 05:04:56 PM
i was wondering what the hell was going on. nice job, frg. so i guess theres not much chance of bruce coming back to talk about the movie again. oh well. it was sure nice of him to come by at all especially to talk about other subjects besides DH4. i believe i will hold off for the dvd on this one as much as i love the first movie. and what in god's name happened to mctiernan? he was so great and then it was one mediocraty after the other. so sad.
Willis on Letterman by Fineus Fog	Jun 27th, 2007 05:15:13 PM
Even on Letterman BW seemed less than enthused about the film. Maybe they need to team up Bruce and Ashton in a buddy flick where they fight over and ugly plastic bitch - and then blow shit up
In DIE HARD 2 you had by BannedOnTheRun	Jun 27th, 2007 05:38:11 PM
Fred Fucking Thompson. And Bruce Willis.
In regards to the editing by Reload	Jun 27th, 2007 06:25:59 PM
I didn't realize that's why some of the editing was a little weird, so they could cut out R-rated lines in order to make it PG-13. That makes sense now. The scene at the power plant, where Justin Long is yelling at Willis, just was weird. One scene would be up close, with Long gesticulating wildly. The next, he'd be seen upclose, looking calm as ever. It was weird. Plus, when the guy jumps out of the chopper and hits the ground, his headphones are knocked off, and when he get up, they're on him again. Consistency, Len, consistency!
It's not a fucking harrier! by Reload	Jun 27th, 2007 06:31:11 PM
It's an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF), also known as an F-35 Lightning II. If you want a harrier: 1. Move to England 2. Join the Marines. 3. Watch True Lies
I refuse to double dip by Lornsorrow	Jun 27th, 2007 06:42:56 PM
I collect a lot of dvd's and only try to go see things on the big screen that are worthy of double dipping. I don't see the point in seeing a film that not only isn't getting the greatest reviews, but isn't as close to the original character of McClane as it could be. So, at this point I'll just be waiting for the un-rated directors cut (and if for some reason it doesn't happen, then that is a chance I'll take for all this shit). If studios want to keep this bull shit up of releasing watered down versions of a movies into the theaters and then releasing the edgier and harsher un-rated/R cuts on dvd, then they can piss off. Half the time movies look better on my nice flat screen tv and sound better on my system than they do in the theater, and I don't have to see people fucking with their damn cell phones in the middle of the film (how I miss the drive in!!). So, if the studios want me to double dip, you better fucking release films right up front they way they were intended. Some films are pretty obvious that they should be R from the beginning and that they are being fucked with to just try and make more money. Fuck that.
DH3: BEST ACTION FILM EVER by Logan_1973	Jun 27th, 2007 06:49:46 PM
DH3 had the best hero, teamed up with the best sidekick, put up against the best villian backed by a tremendous score. Flawless action movie.
Agee in part with Quint, but enjoyed movie SPOILERS by Ozy	Jun 27th, 2007 07:18:51 PM
Though I agree with a lot of Quint's critcisms I still found myself enyoing the movie. The plot was almost pointless and most the scenes between action sequences felt like cut scenes in video games, just enough story to get you through to the next action sequence and sometimes not enough. I enjoyed the teaming of Willis and Long which is good cause they are only interesting characters outside Kevin Smith brief part and Mary Elizabeth Winstead as McClane's daughter. Winstead is great as Lucy McClane which makes it more the shame she's not in the film more, Lucy is very much her fathers daughter in toughness and sarcastic wit in the face of danger. Smith is funny as the super hacker who still lives in his mothers basement. I love Olyphant on DEADWOOD but he's just flat in this movie, Seth Bullock is more menacing a character than Thomas Gabriel. Maggie Q is wasted in this film except for one scene and even that turned cartoonish toward the end. The rest of the cast is about the same, they seem to spend the movie standing around reacting to the attacks but doing little to nothing. Quint joked about how the pseudo-Karl in this film was Superman but he's not the only one with which that would apply. We are used to seeing McClane get beat up and keep coming but now they are doing this with the villains. Willis and Maggie Q have a knockdown dragout fight of which her character gets the better of McClane til he improbably comes back at her by hitting her full speed with a truck which doesn't seem to phase her even after he drives through several walls and an elevator door with her riding on the hood. She continues to hold her own against him as they fight in and around the truck as it hangs inside the elevator shaft ready to fall at any second. Most the action sequences are over the top with McLaine's ability to survive them making them more outlandish with the ending sequence easily rivals the one in TRUE LIES. One other thing that annoyed me was the lack of connection to the previous films, except for Mclane and his daughter none of the characters from the previous films are present and the only real reference to them are a few McLane comments about having been in a similar situation before. Despite these problems I had a good time, possibly in part cause of the audiences reaction which was very positive.
"How about Yippie Kay Yay Mother (gunshot)" by Wed Vid Guy	Jun 27th, 2007 07:36:25 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but is every PG-13 movie allowed one "fuck"? And yeah I noticed the obvious over dubbed scenes. An unrated edition is coming alright.
Mother (gunshot) by Anakin Whoopass	Jun 27th, 2007 07:48:23 PM
I believe PG-13 allows one fuck but zero motherfuckers. If fuck and motherfucker were the same George Carlin's list would be six words long instead of seven.
Wow by The Dum Guy	Jun 27th, 2007 08:08:34 PM
This thread is (gunshot) hard to read.
I really enjoyed "Live Free or Die Hard"... by BigTuna	Jun 27th, 2007 08:48:22 PM
I disagree with the complaints. This film is a HUGE improvement over the dissapointing With a Vengeance. Weisman did a great job directing the action sequences, and it's just a fun, mindless, entertaining summer action flick.
Quint I respect you but you gotta ask yourself by RubenDaniel	Jun 27th, 2007 08:57:37 PM
why couldn't you enjoy this simple movie? Either way I have my own review on this film here http://www.youtube.com/profile ?user=RubensReviews
I enjoyed the hell out of myself by David Lazarus Long	Jun 27th, 2007 08:58:56 PM
I'm not sure what the big problem is. Maybe I just didn't pay attention well enough all 80 times I've seen the first Die Hard, because to me, this was EXACTLY what a 2007 Die Hard movie should be. I laughed, McClane gets the LIVING SHIT beat out of him, I gasped, McClane's daughter has a nice rack AND she's a badass, I cheered, shit blew up - I mean, good LORD what more could you want from a movie? I honestly didn't notice the PG-13, or rather... Maybe since I was expecting it I was surprised with just how much they got away with. I mean, really the only thing it's missing is full frontal, and honestly... enough shit was blowing up for me to be completely satisfied. I also HATE HATE HATE Die Hard 2, and LOVE 3. It may be a little early to say this, but I think my new Die Hard order goes: 1, 4, 3, uhh... 5,6,7,8,9, however-many-they-do......... and 2. But this was great. And I never felt Long was 'just a sidekick'. I mean, McClane was ordered to get this kid so he does, and people just happen to keep trying to kill him. So, he stops them. And kills them first. Quite well. I didn't even really notice much CG other than the elevator scene (which got a little out of hand, I'll admit) and the highway collapsing on him. Then again, I'm usually trying NOT to notice things like that... Anyway, I give it two thumbs up and an 8.5 on the Die Hard Beat the Shit Outta John McClane scale.
That movie kicked ASSS!!!!!!!!!!!! by jojo-pimp	Jun 27th, 2007 09:11:47 PM
I wont say the best of the 4...but damn did it have alot of action, humour..everything you expect from a Die Hard movie. And to tell the truth, the PG-13 rating didnt bother me one bit..cause every other word was still shit, bitch or damn!
Who cares if its PG-13??? by jojo-pimp	Jun 27th, 2007 09:13:21 PM
It still kicked more ass than most R rated movies, and had enough swearing and blood in it for my liking!
I think I get it by RubenDaniel	Jun 27th, 2007 10:05:33 PM
I think the people complaining wanted a 1988 film for 2007. They wanted the yelling captain threatening to do things to McClane and they wanted the weak characters like that Janitor from Die Hard 2. They wanted the same cocky vulgar shallow McClane instead of the more reserved realistic character in this film. THATS what they wanted..
Not buying the bashing by Tripster2001	Jun 27th, 2007 10:19:03 PM
Usually I follow the lead here, but I am watching a ton of other reviews and they are in near consensus that, while not as good as original, not such a bad ride. Think I am going to have to see for myself...But I really think you all just got bitter taste of the PG-13 and its tainted every bite of this movie you take.
QUINT'S REVIEW = PISS. by Darth Philbin	Jun 27th, 2007 10:35:31 PM
This movie was awesome - the 2nd best in the series. The problem written with this review is that the critic was only 3 years old when the first Die Hard came out and did not "grow" with the character. Now that I am an old-ass man with a family and a real job, I don't need the "reality" - blood, guts, profanity - to tell me a story when I want to see an action movie. DH4 was highly entertaining. Thanks to the internet, you can see real actual killing with the click of your mouse. The movie was 2-1/2 hours long - why add more time showing us in detail what bullets do to bodies. Take an excellent movie like "The Departed". Violence and gore work because it explains the brutality of the story. DH4 isn't going to win any Oscars, but it is an action movie. It has ass-loads of action and that along with the nostalgia of how badass and relevant John McClane still is dreive the story. The audience I was with cheered and seemed to enjoy it. I would highly reccommend this to fellow 30-somethings that want to remember how exciting it was to see Bruce Willis as McClane.
AICN: Wrong on Hostel, Wrong on Die Hard by bluemcpoo	Jun 27th, 2007 10:36:28 PM
The theater was packed. This will make more money this weekend than Hostel II will in its entire run. People were walking out of the theater smiling, laughing, and calling friends to tell them to go see it.
The "Hitman" trailer was pretty cool, too by Darth_Gonz	Jun 28th, 2007 01:35:41 AM
But it IS a movie based on a video game, so i'll hold out any excitement for it until I see a longer trailer.
Dennis Franz by stamper	Jun 28th, 2007 02:46:02 AM
I agree, when I saw Die Hard 2 (in the theater, unlike you dicks who slams 4 here with no argument other than "willis socks !"), I had no idea who this actor was, and I thought he was grade Z movie bad. I still think the same, whatever oscar worthy work Franz did after.
AICN is loosing it bit by bit by stamper	Jun 28th, 2007 02:59:22 AM
If there was some editorial control here, Harry would not let a review like this one happen before checking the facts. FACT : despite minor flaws, DH4 is as enjoyable as the 3 movies that came before. we don't care about Quint's OPINION, he is trying to be a movie critic, just give us the FACTS. Opinion are like arseholes, everybody have one. FACTS ARE FACTS. Some of the review in this talkback are way better written than the main one. EDITORIAL control is PARAMOUNT.
It really is that bad. by Giftoflight	Jun 28th, 2007 07:41:45 AM
I am a very forgiving person when it comes to movies. I liked Dead Silence, Silent Hill, and X-MEN 3 to make my point clear. I'm an okay Die Hard fan... but I wouldn't call it my favorite movie... The PG13 really does hurt it. There are such corny things in this movie, where Bruce Willis gets mad at the helicopter, gets in his car and guns it straight at the copter, which is up in the air. He jumps out of the vehicle, and it nicks the side of a support collumn in the tunnel... by some force of magic, it is launched into the air and smashes into the helicopter. It was fucking ridiculous. And the whole theme of this movie, I shit you not, is "Watch out for young people and their computers!" Yes, this movie shows the bad guys at computers...and they are controlling EVERYTHING with computers. The bad guys have hacked into everything, including your goddamn microwave with their computers! It makes the movie Hackers look more intelligently written. Plotholes fucking galore. I clearly remember him destroying a vehicle, and then a few scenes down the road he has a new one with no explanation.
Die Hard 4 Rocked by Colonel	Jun 28th, 2007 08:34:34 AM
Anyone looing for a coherent and tight plot in a Die Hard movie is an idiot. This version was better than 2 and 3. Of course it was rediculous, it's a gawd damn movie! Any Die Hard FAN will love this movie. Suck on that bitches.
Die Hard 4 Was Great by abovo	Jun 28th, 2007 11:29:01 AM
We loved the movie. The action was great. No one cared that it was PG-13. Great job!
Saw if for the 2nd time by Motoko Kusanagi	Jun 28th, 2007 11:42:15 AM
and it's still great! This review is shit whereas DIE HARD 4.0 is DA SHIT!!!
Yeah I Figured... by FleshMachine	Jun 28th, 2007 11:49:03 AM
i'm not even going to see this...I LOVE the first 3 films...everything ive seen in pt4 seems really weak. that 8min clip was AWFUL. cartoony hollywood tripe.
what no one is mentioning about justin long by lyleblake82000	Jun 28th, 2007 12:26:28 PM
is how he is a really, really cute guy. Must be because most of you here are straight boys. Whatever floats your boat.
So he's cute. Bruce is handsome. Relevant? No. by Bronx Cheer	Jun 28th, 2007 12:56:53 PM
Why do we give a damn about whether someone's cute? These are not Dawson Creek episodes. This is Die Hard. Justin Long was suprisingly decent in the film. The only person who gives shit if he's cute is Lucy McClane, and even then she's a little doubtful whether he's got a sack strapped on.
Justin Long = Simian by Bronx Cheer	Jun 28th, 2007 12:58:58 PM
He looks sort of like an ape man, so he's cute in that way. Maybe he can play Chim-Chim in the new Speed Racer flick. He should learn to shave. That whiskered look is ridiculous. He looks like a 15 yr old boy trying to look like a man.
DH4 sucks... by Joey_Redballs	Jun 28th, 2007 02:13:25 PM
...anyone who says different is either an idiot, a kid, or a studio PLANT!
Joey_Redballs, anyone who says different... by Bronx Cheer	Jun 28th, 2007 03:39:48 PM
is someone with an opinion of his or her own. Your friend, Tommy Blueballs
Lucy had more balls by David Lazarus Long	Jun 28th, 2007 07:06:35 PM
than Mac Guy, but he held his own at the end there. You know how I can tell that I really, REALLY enjoyed a movie? When scenes from it keep playing over and over in my head all day, and everytime I see them I think "Damn. That was COOL." Same way I felt after Paprika, which is probably the only other really good new movie I've seen in months. Pirates and Spidey had moments of awesomeness, but overall when I left the theater I just felt... used. Like a dime store hoe.
Preach on Reverend Quint! by BenIdom	Jun 28th, 2007 09:51:20 PM
You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. The only thing worth watching with the words "Die Hard" in it was that kid Zachs "Dwight Schrute meets Michael Bay" short film on the reality show.
Praise Die Hard 4 by stamper	Jun 29th, 2007 01:05:03 AM
As thousands of nerds / Geeks will trow away their computer and discover women, rock'n'roll, LIFE ! Except all the writers on AICN staff that is
It was fine. by Mankind	Jun 29th, 2007 02:30:52 AM
It just was. Everybody who wanted their dream Die Hard sequel can stay dissapointed, but the idea that it was "even bad for an action flick" is just silly. It was a great movie, and everybody in the theatre had a good time. Myself probably most of all.
Is Kevin Smith Merely Fat, or Super Fat in the film? by hatespeech	Jun 29th, 2007 09:53:29 AM
Does he fit on the screen?
Hate to say it Quint, but you're getting Cynical by George Newman	Jul 1st, 2007 01:44:27 AM
I certainly can be, too, at times. There are some movies or games or whatever that I simply refuse to see or accept, because my mind tells me "no". The stunts got ridiculous in this movie. Any sense of time was thrown out the car window on the way to West Virginia. But it was entertaining. I generally hate that saying, and I don't want to be apologetic, but I really liked the movie. The action was great. McClane was cool and funny. Justin Long was funny. The special effects were fantastic (except for the lame blueScreen/rear-projection during the car rides) It was good. I wish the situation had been more contained to a single location. Scripting certainly could have been changed so that instead of State-hopping, the film could have consisted of a single, extended infiltration. But dang--he drove a car into a helicopter. And sure, the previews showed that moment repeatedly. But I never understood the circumstances of that stunt and the car flipping one. That tunnel sequence as a whole was thrilling and great. The movie was good, man. Eat a cookie or something and awaken the happiness within you.
Saw it last night - MUCH better then I thought it would by kinghenryVIII	Jul 1st, 2007 04:02:31 PM
be .... Didn't dig the bald McClane (even in 16 Blocks he had hair) and the jet fighter thing was laugh out loud funny but as for an action flick - and a Die Hard flick - it wasn't bad. Agreed, I miss the cussing! But oh well - bring on Indy IV!
I'm Man Enough to Say it: Live Free or Die Hard Rocked! by Birdys Piano Teacher	Jul 2nd, 2007 05:36:21 PM
Sorry, but i have to say it. It fits comfortably within the Die Hard series. Yes, Bruce set a record for the number of times in which "dickhead" could be uttered as a curse, and there were a couple messy dubbed line moments, but the action was sick and everyone at the Vista with me enjoyed the hell out of it. Justin Long was hilarious and gave Willis someone great to play off of. Maggie Q was hot and kicked much ass. Even Kevin Smith's part fit in the context of the movie. Wow, I was just totally wrong. Sorry, Bruce.

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