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This is awesome news. :^D

Still really looking forward to Iron Man regardless though.

I'm not ragging on the Ultimates, I'd just prefer they used the original established version of Nick Fury, not the johnny-come-lately Ultimate version, that's all. To me it's all about character, not colour.

That said, yeah, if they're going to go all Ultimate Nick Fury then of course it makes perfect sense to cast Sam "shouty" Jackson, given that the ultimate version was based on him and all, but what can I say, as a huge old school Nick Fury fan I just prefer the original incarnation better, that's all. And as such I would have personally preferred to see someone like Michael Wincott in the role. Wasn't to be though, so there you go.

And Steven Spielberg BETTER direct a Captain America flick...

I guess the main reason this bothers me is that, given a choice between Classic Nick Fury and New Nick Fury, they went with the latter. And since Marvel's next big-screen adaptation is going to be Cap... I'm *terrified* that the Ultimate version is going to be used. That travesty of a character.

Sigh. I guess I should just sit back and see what happens, but... dammit, Cap matters to me!

Put aside the whole Ultimates thing (as I do, since I've never read them). The movies change elements and continuity from the comics all the time (as they should, since they cannot rely on the insular geek community for success; they need much greater numbers). And here we have a chance to get a guy who can really act, at least in this kind of role. Who the fuck cares what color he is? Would you rather have Keanu, or Kevin Costner, or some other white guy that can't act? Jackson is perfect IMO -- the typical "SLJ" attitude matches up perfectly with the Nick Fury attitude.

And shuddup about the Black Panther, who was clearly written specifically as an African-origin character and oft involved in civil rights issues. Totally different thing.

And as for the Falcon/Robin remarks...yes, those are the same. A white Falcon appearing in a Captain America movie would indeed be like an African-American Robin appearing in a Batman movie, in the sense that both are stupid characters regardless of race and both should be excluded from ALL movies, again regardless of race.

Tell me that mother fucking Denzel Washington wouldn't kick the ever loving shit out of everyone who's been batman so far. Fuck... Wesley Snipes PLAYED Batman in the Blade movies and Blade 2 was THE best Batman movie to date.

If you can't handle a character who was white being played by someone who's black... you are a mother fucking racist mother fucker. And you are a pretty pathetic racist when you can't even handle comic book movie characters being played by different races. Wow. So much for all the talk about how comics are mature and readers are mature and how it's not just a kids thing.

This is why comic geeks get dismissed and marginalised. Because when it finally does come to what matters in REAL LIFE... they are anything but mature. And NOBODY respects a 30, 40, 50 year old kid who can't handle having a comic book character be played in a movie by a black actor?!

Guess what fuckers?? All the fucking comic characters are fucking white! Cause america was still fucking racist and couldn't deal with black heroes. Oh, yeah, except the who 3 of them that anyone was able to sneak out.

"But it's about continuity" Lieing mother fuckers. That's like people saying that white and black people shouldn't marry because of the cultural differences. It's a bullshit excuse for racism.

I can't believe anyone who complains that Nick Fury is played by a black actor has the nerve to even say it to the world... even in Talkback.

How in the world anyone didn't get the moral of EVERY FUCKING COMIC EVER MADE about right and wrong and standing up against oppression... If you have a problem with a black Nick Fury... you are NO comic lover.

It's a racist opinion. I'm pretty disgusted by racism. My opinion in response is that they are fuckers.

Is that allowed? Can I feel that way and say so?

If they want their opinion to matter in a public forum, they had better handle it being critisized.

By the way... in the REAL WORLD, we get upset about certain things we discuss, such as racism, genocide, tyrany, microwaves that break after using them for only 3 weeks, currupt politicians. It's a GOOD thing. It is the actual topics that a mature person gets upset when talking about as opposed to 'nipples on batman' or 'flames on optimus'.

There's a lot of mature adult comic lovers and it pisses us off when assholes misrepresent. THAT is what really pisses me off here. There's a good half dozen posts above complaining about a black actor playing a white character... and most responses are sypathetic. What the fuck?!

And let's look at what was said above again... and I did not take a single one out of context.

"Are we supposed to overlook the fact that he's BLACK by ToddBoddy"

"ARGH!!! Nick IS White!! by Cpt Shaw"

"Next Up... Steve Martin IS Black Panther! by Long Tooth"

"But about the racial issue:

by DerLanghaarige

Doesn't matter if you are a racist or not, Nick Fury has been white for ages! Imagine what would happen if they would cast a white actor as Shaft!"

"Nick Fury is not "black nowadays"...

by Sledge Hammer

...there's a completely seperate version of him that happens to be black in the comparitively very small section of the Marvel Universe that covers the various Ultimate related books, in the other 95% of what consists of the regular Marvel Universe and Marvel Titles he's still the original classic (and white) Nick Fury that he's always been, so why don't you "get with the times" fuckwit."

"I guess once Nick Fury went black....

by Long Tooth

...he never went back? It's not that people are against a black hero. Far from it, it's just that Fury’s been white for - I don't know - 40 years? And he's still around in the “Mainstream Marvel Universe”. The Ultimate version has been around for maybe 5 years? Keep things in perspective. It’s not racism, it precedent and history."

"Hasselhoff was the best

by tonamania"

"Sam Jackson as Nick Fury?

by Abominable Snowcone

NO! Where the hell do they get the idea to cast a black African American typecast actor in the role of a scruffy but tough, middle aged WHITE guy? Sam has his great moments, but this role just isn't for him. This would be better for someone like, oh, TOM JANE"

"Fucking retarded

by ScamsAndFlams

for a variety of reasons, YES including the fact that they switched Nick Fury's race for absolutely no reason. (i know they did this in the ultimates or whatever the fuck, don't bother)"

But for the record I said:

Nick Fury is not "black nowadays"...

...there's a completely seperate version of him that happens to be black in the comparitively very small section of the Marvel Universe that covers the various Ultimate related books, in the other 95% of what consists of the regular Marvel Universe and Marvel Titles he's still the original classic (and white) Nick Fury that he's always been, so why don't you "get with the times" fuckwit."

And which I immediately followed with:

And again... by Sledge Hammer

...if you're going to do Ultimate Nick Fury then this all makes perfect sense, and I have no problem with that, I just would have personally preferred the classic Nick Fury instead, that's all.

This was in direct response to:

Nick Fury is black nowadays you idiots

by Van Buren

Where have you been, get with the fucking times

And in previous posts I also said:

I don't care that he's black...

by Sledge Hammer

...I just don't like the way the character is portrayed in the Ultimate Universe compared to classic Nick Fury, simple as that. Nor do I remember the last several runs of the regular Marvel Universe version of The Avengers being campy for that matter. I'm not ragging on the Ultimates, I'd just prefer they used the original established version of Nick Fury, not the johnny-come-lately Ultimate version, that's all. To me it's all about character, not colour.

That said, yeah, if they're going to go all Ultimate Nick Fury then of course it makes perfect sense to cast Sam "shouty" Jackson, given that the ultimate version was based on him and all, but what can I say, as a huge old school Nick Fury fan I just prefer the original incarnation better, that's all. And as such I would have personally preferred to see someone like Michael Wincott in the role. Wasn't to be though, so there you go.

I also posted:

Exactly, Long Tooth...

by Sledge Hammer

...like I said, I'm not haterizing on this, if you're going to do Ultimate Nick Fury, which is apparently is what they have chosen to do, then the casting of the face of Ultimate Nick Fury, Sam "shouty" Jackson himself, makes perfect logical sense. I just personally would have preferred for them to go with the classic version, because I prefer the classic character, and despite sharing a name and some conceptual similarities, they are two decidedly different characters at the end of the day. But it's Ultimate Nick they're going with (which in itself isn't unexpected) so there you have it.

And finally:

Yeah, that's true Ribbons...

by Sledge Hammer

...but if they take the face of Ultimate Nick Fury, but the character of regular Nick Fury, then to me they've done a disservice to the fans of Ultimate Nick Fury, who would naturally expect that's the character they are going to be getting on screen. If you cast Jackson then it should be the Ultimate character that you base everything else about him on, otherwise it just feels too much like trying to straddle the fence, which usually ends up pleasing niether side.

Yeah, I'm practically wearing a sheet on my head and burning crosses, aint I? But like I said, keep on trolling regardless.

That being said, they should have made his character a paraplegic so that in a future Marvel film cross over, he and Charles Xavier could could battle it out Murderball style!

Oh wait, Charles mindmelded into that new body now, didn't he?? Fuckin' X3...

Now I don't know who you are or where you come from, but without getting all Oprah believe me when I say I've seen the true face of racism rear it's ugly head enough times to truly know the difference between opinion, pc bullshit, ignorance, passive racism and actual full blown hatred. But yeah, whatever.