cannot wait for this movie

this is what you get when you have a director and writer that really cares about the material.

Not some bleached blonde, too tanned cokehead who only wants to put his stamp on things.

Keep it up Nolan.

Anyone know when the first trailers going to be popping up?

It's not supposed to be a mobile as bike, but is the precursor to the "Bat Bike".

Now where is Daniel19 the douche or whatever the name is to tell me that "We know."? The guy just didn't get my comment in the other talkback.

I wish people could read sarcasm sometimes.

As for the guns, they're positioned low to the ground, so I would guess they're exclusively for slowing cars down with some blasts to the rear tires.

Hopefully it's an in-between stage for a much cooler suit in the third installment.

Hopefully with a yellow or gold bat like ckone mentioned. Gold would look cool.

How's Arnold's holding up? Tell Potsie he still owes me $5 for taking Mary Ellen to that "special" Doctor.

theblueroom - what? How did you want Batman to train? What is wrong with Ninjas? Surely Batman has always been a ninja? He uses martial arts, hides in shadows, uses graple hooks, smoke bombs to confuse bad guys etc.

All these things Ninjas do in reality so surely Batman would have Ninja training if he wanted to acheive the same effect.

And the new cowl means he will be able to move for the first time in a batman movie.

What is the better Batman film you seem to remember. The Burton films scraped through as being good by simply not really including Batman in the plot so they wouldn't have to deal with his character.

If he starts killing bad guys then he would be as bad as they are.

Anyhow, as someone that didn't like BB, this Pod crap smacks of the Schu with all the subtlety of a 2x4.

And, hey -- does Gordon get to drive it before he cheets on his wife?!

I have always loved Batman and BB while having its faults ws exeactly what me and most Batman fans have always wanted from a Batman movie.

I have nothing but respect for WB for taking such a risk, istead of using a viable franchise to make a kids movie and sell toys they gave it to a beloved director to actually make a film which requires you to think.

Although I suppose you're just upset because Schumacher didn't get the job again.

Despite that, yeah, bats doesn't kill. He doesn't use guns to smite crime, but when it all comes down to it -- if his maw cooks the breakfast without the hog, then today was a good day.

Yes I'm sure it will be just like Batman and Robin just because you think the bike looks silly (just like the tumbler did, eh!)

Sony had hired Tim Story for Spiderman and Freddie Prinze Jr for peter, it would have made financial sense at the time...

These studios don't have to hire good people or put effort into these films, they can do it shit and still make tons of cash (Fantastic Four).

Hollywood is a business and so everytime they take a risk when they don't have to I appreciate it.

If i gave you a song and said I want you to make a painting to illustrate what this song means it would be very different.

True Comics and movies are quite similar but like you say if the just copy the comic there is little point.

People complain if a movie contemparises something that was made 50 years ago in a comic. Well it was only like that because the comic was written 50 years ago. A film should reflect the time in which it is made.

Look what happened with Superman returns, people will look at it in 20 years and say that while it was made in the 00's it copied the style of the 70's film so it doesn't say anything or represent the time in which it was made.

Rant!

Don't forget with BB Nolan was forced to use Goyers script and had to kind of stick to what WB wanted to a degree. This time he will be making the film he wants.

Kind of like he couldn't see the wood for the trees.

He probably didn't realise how the film would play until it came together.

I think the bigest problem was Lois and Clark, they had no chemistry, hell they didn't even really have a scene together. They should be like best buddies, that's the energy which keeps Superman alive and adds the humour and heart.

Kurt Rusell as Bats

Richard E Grant as the Joker

Paul Newman as Comisioner Gordon.

I wanted (after waiting for over 10 years) for a NEW Superman, one which would represent the times in which WE live.

Not a conveluted re-make of the 70's version with the heart ripped out.

Still I respect to a degree SR and Spidey 3 because the directors tried (even if they failed) and that is much better than studio suit made shit like FF or X3.

And kryptonite is a lazy plot device in my opinion.

That is why i was so pleased they went with organic web shooters in Spidey because otherwise it would have been used as a lazy way to increase tension "Oh no, i've run out of web, just at the worst possible time to run out of web, again, just like yesterday, mmm."

Bruce and Gordon should be giant towering men, like 7 ft tall and nearly as wide.

Oh then stab his kid with a krypto-knife and pretend he never existed. Sigh.

In SR his hair never even got out of place, I want Superman to bleed.

In DKR even Batman made him bleed.

Millars Crossing shows that they could do a brilliant Batman film.

....annoyed

I hope DK has Gordon and Dent as very prominent characters trying to bring down the Joker and keep the city together with the help of Batman.

Directing must be such a hard and overwhelming job and for Nolan BB was his first big movie, it must have been hard with all those big names, sets and studio pressure to concentrate on being creative.

Did anyone else think that BB must be a really boring flm for little kids? I took my 11 yr old brother and his mate to see it and they where half asleep by the end.

Watched the 1st one a few weeks back again, hasn't aged as well as i would have thought.

When i was working in a video shop old guys would come in and say 'i'll tell you what was a good film young man, The Graduate, they don't make them like that now, all films are shit now.'

I'd try to tell them that they still make films like that but they are no-longer the main releases and try and suggest some more obscure films. They would then proceed to ignore me and rent out the latest shit film out.

Superman should look wise and intelligent.

That is why Cavizel would have been great, he has the looks and the depth.

Spacey just slept through that role.

I always thought Eric Bana with a shaved head would make a great Luthor.

Wish I was looking forward to The Joker, but I'm really afraid it could ruin the movie for me. I don't want to see sicko stuff in a Batman film. Inappropriate.

If you compare him to most actors he gets way too much shit.

And I don't care in the slightest what he is like in real life. He can fuck horses for all I care, it's his work as an actor I care about.

Never understood peoples obbsession with actors private lives, they are just people, not aliens or something, I don't care what my postman does when he gets home.

Contrast this with the vain charismatic character who maintains a polished appearance and the evil lurking in him lies beneath the surface. It's much more subtle and interesting to me. He is still very much a dark character, the contrast is more interesting.

Batman has been fighting organized crime through fear.

If the Joker doesn't feel fear and just kills randomly to get at Batman it undermines everything Batman does.

Most bad guys can't hurt Bats because they don't know who he is and therefore can't hurt his loved ones.

The Joker would just start killing everyone to get at him.

I think bats having to deal with this dilema while not wanting to actually kill the Joker creates a very interesting dynamic.

but reading the comments here, it's obvious that it MUST be an escape pod type getaway vehicle, since it's really impractical as a bike. Oh, that tiny cone housing in front might create a slipstream wind that would keep bugs out of your face at over 70 MPH or so, but any slower and you're picking crickets out of the back of your throat. It seems to have a very small, miniaturized propulsion engine, no doubt some very powerful sci-fi mumbo-jumbo - it just doesn't look like it would be good for high speeds, long runs or safe maneuver-ablity

And no fenders, really? Forget the cape, but try running that thing with no front fender in any rain, mud, on lose soil or sand, on gravel... Bat's would need a goofy motorcycle helmet with a full face shield (cool) and holes for his ears to stick up out of like his old SuperFriends space helmet (totally uncool.)

The fat tires and big guns remind me of the Bisley Judge Dredd. The people doing this should try reviving the Judge Dredd franchise, then adapt one of the Batman/Dredd comics. That would be fun.

So how many songs do you thing this thing does hold, anyway? And what do you think Batman listens to while cruising along on this thing?

just ready to click on post when it hit me - the chunky suit is his Dark knight arbor, this is his steed and those long guns are his bat lances. I think they're taking the Knight reference way to literally, since it was all just a silly pun on "it was a dark and stormy night" in the first place.

Maybe one of the action figure variants will be the all-weather Stormy Knight figure.

Looking closely, that does look like the chest emblem is yellow, but they tried to hide that fact with the lighting. Hope I'm wrong, just sayin' that's how it looks.

And didn't Afflecks red leather bondage Daredevil leathers have a separate collar and headpiece?

yeah, the look of the one piece cape and cowl in the comics is classic, but it stops being practical the first time someone grabs the cape and pulls back hard - or hangs him with it. And he has removed the cape and remained masked in some versions of the comics, so it must be separate even if it appears that it isn't.

in all the years of reading the comics, I never got the impression that it was a high-impact synthetic combat helmet, but really, it makes as much sense as Keaton's kevlar lined costume.

And the old "bright target to draw their fire" excuse for the gold oval - that would explain a yellow or gold bat sheet emblem - better to get shot on a chunk of armor than in the unprotected lower face.

Though if he is riding a big-wheel with no windscreen or front fender, shouldn't the mask have the white lenses to protect his eyes? It just makes sense.

- Yeah, like Batman makes sense... Comics fans get carried away some times.

You all remember the old Robin gag, right? "I have a all dark costume with a bright yellow shield of half inch thick metal armor to give the bad guys a target to shoot at and draw their fire away from my face. Here, put on this red and green t-shirt and this bright yellow cape, okay?"

the armaments on the front view are intriguing, though. Small caliber machine guns - possible tire piercing darts? - clost to ground level. Above that.. the long ones, maybe not guns. Ramming lances or, as someone guessed, flame throwers? And above that, the ones with the tapering knobby points set in grooves so the elevation can be adjusted - I'm thinking rockets, either ramming bolts or shrapneling fragmentation explosives - though the latter doesn't seem like something Batman would use.

That would be tits. And not of the nipples on a Batsuit variety.

Still, I have enough residual respect left for Nolan (from Memento) that I'm prepared to wait and see how it turns out. Although that respect is running out now that he's settled into his life of turning out solid but unremarkable studio fodder.

The guns are probably a version of the same thing featured by the police cars of the future that I saw on a Discovery program some time ago. They shoot out things that stop the vehicle they're chasing or slow them down. That having been said, yes, they do look like guns. But even the Tumbler had an oozie on it, remember? There are just some situations in Batman's daily life that require an oozie or vehicle-mounted automatic weaponry.

In the same way that his senses of smell, taste, sight, and hearing are super, so is his sense of touch. Although he has some "control" over this with regard to those parts of himself that are touched all the time, the smallest amount of pressure applied to any part of the rest of his body is, while not necessarily painful, exhilerating. Hence, although his super-stamina allows him to keep up any physical activity for a super-human amount of time, his super sense of touch gets in the way before it has a chance to show itself off. Incidentally, this is why Superman has never ever taken advantage of his being so super and become a sex god; the faintest brush of a body against him instantly reduces him to a non-sexual being, just as reaching sexual climax does for any other human, super or not.

Now, with regard to his super sperm. Yes, his sperm are, indeed, a thousand times stronger and more potent than any normal man's. However, because they are so super, only one is released per climax, as any more would be redundant.

In practice, what all of this means is that Superman is shooting microscopic sperm every time he becomes aroused.

All of the above was taken from the Science of Superman.

You're gonna pay for that, mister!

She should always have a bit of a tom boy style to her.

She shouldn't have time to take too much care of herself.

Margaret Kidder was perfect for this. She could hardly even walk in heals and she smoked like a chimney.